So true what you said about the 94 Rockets being the most balanced team that year, and Olajuwon was in beast mode. No one would beat Hakeem that year. He wanted it.
I think the key to "hang time" is making it look like you're not moving in the air. Most players these days are always contorting their body and trying to do something flashy. If you watch some of the longest dunks recorded their knees are tucked in they are holding their arm out with the ball and just waiting to reach the rim, as if they're floating. Nothing fancy, but it looks like they're up there forever.
they aren't trying to be flashy unless it's an open court. Some players don't jump with grace rather they wanna come down with power instead of letting it linger
This video debunked literally exactly what you're saying there's no such thing as coming down with power or lingering in the air. That concept literally defies physics. Only way one could come down with more power is if the were forcefully pushed back down through gravity which obviously doesn't happen
I agree with you 💯%. There's a prolific TH-cam dunker named Tyler. He's super athletic with freakish hops but he's 1 of those flashy guys who tries to do all kinds of moves before flushing the ball. He's missing the point. I told him to go for distance even if he's just holding the ball cocked without putting it through the legs, behind the back and under his feet. We want to see you jump from outside the paint and banging it down with authority.
I’m 6 foot 3 and got asked all my life why I didn’t play basketball since I’m “so tall” - I then would point out how tiny Steve Nash looked on the court and would tell people I’m the same height as him…but I moved like I was shaq.
Yeah, I was at the park the other day and I am a pretty good shotblocker for my height. There was a younger kid there who asked me if I had ever been blocked before. For reference, I am 6'2 and had to play center in high school since our school was so short. It's crazy how people struggle to understand how tall basketball players are usually.
Same here brother. I'm a bit taller at 6'5 but I'm literally built like a Defensive End. I tell people all the time that I would look small on the court and explain that Curry is only 2 inches shorter than me.
MJ jumped higher than others so when rotating his body for a fade away and falling down he had more time visibly to make the shot plus his upper part of the body must have been much stronger to actually excel and have great accuracy at controlling the ball during the shooting.
@@djbryson Bullshit. You can literally watch countless videos of him shooting on the way down in his jump shots. I watched damn near every game of Jordan's, growing up in Chicago. You have no idea what you're talking about.
The other thing that lower's three point shooting percentage in the Bird era, is that in that time 3 pointers were primary made as bail out shots under heaps of pressure. Rarely did they use to find an advantage.
It isn't just 3s, he could shoot anything from anywhere. There are only 9 members of the 50/40/90 club, which Bird started. He is also one of only 3 that has done it more than once.
I think you really have to measure it against ones peers. if two players shoot the same number of 3's in a year and one is on top of the league in the 80's and the same number puts you mid pack in the 2020's, you have to credit the earlier player because the later players built off of what came before. music example: if Eric Clapton came out in 2020 (as a teen same as in the 60's), he would be an unspectacular player, because so much exists not that didn't exist then. people said he was God because they had less experience then. Now we have computer models and sports body mechanic professionals and nutrition and coaches that game for 3's. a lot of that did not exist in the Byrd era. just one guy's opinion.
Strange view of hang time. I always thought hangtime meant people stayed in the air longer because they could jump higher , not because they could actually hang, hover or levitate.
I know. Science center is trying to figure out hang time and they pulled jordan farmar to test that out with. What? Talk about poor sample size. He barely reached the rim himself.
No one thought it meant levitation accept this guy and the people from the show sports science. Those same people also thought there was such a thing as "the quarterback mask" which could predict superbowl winning qbs based on facial features
You know that we had a physics model in the 1700s that explains this. This is literally the basics of classic Physics. We are talking Newton and the made up apple story lol.
Air time would be a better word than hang time. All those people thinking hang time is a thing are just next level dumb. So good on you for understanding that you can't hang in the air, lol
This video is a myth. Don’t take it too seriously. It’s framed for spicy content but in reality the only “myth” he covered was the last one, about the 8peat
I agree with your argument for Bird not being an all-time three point scorer but I would still love to see Larry’s three point scoring adjusted to today’s nba
I think that it is fair to say that if you were to take Bird and Reggie Miller to todays game, they'd still find their way up to the top 10. In the modern game people are chucking three pointers with 18 seconds on the clock for crying out loud. If players back then did that, they'd be sent to the locker rooms to wash the towels until they "learned better"
Larry shot roughly the same as KD and the Celtics didn't even practice 3pt shots. According to Bird himself. So it's stands to reason he'd only do even better if took hundreds of 3s at practice every day. Any shooter list without Bird on it is a joke.
The frustrating part is you hear people say Hakeem was lucky Jordan retired, when reality is that for those two years Dreem was a dominant as anyone I have ever seen on the court. Jordan is Jordan and for sure has goat status, but let us not pretend that everyone who played why he was retired don't count, especially Houston who won back-to-back, that is a difficult task and IMO proves you were not just some fluke
⭐️ interesting to point out that although Spud Webbs dunks were impressive af, Jordan actually had a higher recorded vert... Spud Webbs vert was @45" and Jordan's vert was a full 48" in his prime... crazy huh..?
@@franzjones179true vertical has to be measured electronically at the sternum. Most measurements are done by how high one can touch something which has a number of variables (arm/ hand/finger length, shoulder/elbow/wrist joint ligament/tendon elasticity, etc) which has nothing to do with how high one jumped.
I'm so confused. For 40 years, I always thought hang time was universally understood to mean time spent off the ground. Had I misunderstood it this whole time? Does it, as this video claims, mean to sustain the peak elevation of the jump over time? It's hard to believe everyone believed Jordan broke the laws of physics.
I honestly thought the comment section would be full of comments like this :) It's indeed hard to believe most people believed in that definition of hang time
If you look carefully..why Jordan seems to hang on air longer is because he double pump when jumping..when he jump..during midflight..he will extend his spine and arm longer to give him a bit more height..and that is why he appears to hang on air..you need a very strong spine control and power to pull it off..watch it on slow mo..you will see jt..during midflight..
Amen Thomas. Amen Goodrebel music. I had to check and see if anyone else was thinking this too. Lol! People actually truly believed that humans could hang in their air. How is this even a conversation right? The term ‘hang time’ has never ever meant anything other than:”How HIGH/FAR can this guy jump?” I should make a video about the Easter-bunny not being a real thing. Some people’s minds might actually be blown.
Some people who believe Jordan can float/fly? I am not joking here. I am simply explaining in perspective. About 15% of American Millennials believe that the Earth is flat. If 15% of Millennials believe the Earth is flat.... it should not be difficult to believe about 10-20% of people really think Jordan can float.
Bird was known as a great three-point shooter NOT because he made a high-percentage or that he made a LOT of them but because he made them when the team needed them most --- at the end of games, with no time on the clock, to tie a game, etc. etc.... You have yet to prove anyone better at THAT then Bird.
Ironically enough, that is also a myth. Play-by-play statistics show that over the entire sample size of his career, he was no better with higher/lower points deficit, more/less time remaining on the game clock or shot clock, etc.
@@QuickTipsAccounting literally though the defense back then makes today's era look like baby's imagine the game if you still could defend people like you could back then
@@YourFavouriteDraugr SMH. It's not about being better when it's on the line. It's about staying consistent when it's on the line. That is what makes someone clutch.
For the off-season clips part… it’s completely true. At my local gym in New Hampshire there was a ref who played nba for a year or two. Only made it to Gleague. Luke Bonner. Brother of Matt Bonner. Dude was automatic from 3pt. Made like 20 something straight. With out trying. And this is a guy who never actually made it. Pros are on another level
Then why do you see so many pros with WIDE OPEN 3 looks and just brick them? I'm guessing L Bonner is a great shooter who lacked other skills (too short, too slow, too uncoordinated, etc)
@@abhrajitdhar4628 Not really. Actual games matter very little. In fact star players routinely sit out because they think ... it doesn't matter. So there's very little pressure
MJ did one simple thing to create an awesome illusion of flying or hanging in the air: in the first part of his move towards the basket after the jump he curled his legs up and bended his arms as if he was smaller and more ball-like, in the second part of the jump he basically stretched out his arms kept his head straight and stretched his legs. All of this made an impression he was levitating in the air and being there longer than actually was the fact. It looks super graceful and amazing but the physics of it are completely unchanged.
It’s about time someone shows Klay the respect he deserves. The things I’ve seen him do in regards of shooting can only be compared to steph and dame, respectfully
@@osas5211 did you watch basketball in 2016? He had that one game against kings where he dropped 52, 37 coming in one quarter? He was hitting logo 3’s in that game. He even had one where he pointed at the ground before shooting. Plus the 14 3’s in a game there’s literally no shooter that can get hot as klay and that alone sets him apart from other great shooters. Just fyi lebron and trae were behind dame and steph for logo 3’s and neither of them were ever top 5 shooters. There’s more too it than just range
I thought we all knew “hang time” was an illusion (because, you know … physics 🤷), but the illusion is drastic between people. Jordan could do a lot with his body and the ball in the air.
But it didn't alter his actual trajectory by more than a dime, if at all. I think it has been shown that someone in the air can alter their trajectory slightly through body movement. But slightly is the operative word, and if it was by more than the diameter of a dime, I would surprised. In fact, I would surprised if it was that much. Baseball has its myths too. The rising fastball, for example. It has been shown, pitched balls fall at exactly the rate predicted by physics. The curve ball curves because it is moving left to right or right to left. It perhaps loses more velocity than a fastball per each unit of distance between the mound and the plate because it actually is traveling further. If the spin on the pitch affects a pitch's rate of fall, the effect is infinitesimal. Though an infinitesimal distance can be the difference between a home run and a hard ground out. Another baseball myth is how far a human being can hit a baseball. In still air, the limit seems to be about 500 feet, maybe 530 at the most. If any home runs have been hit further than that, they have been wind aided. Some have argued that the heavy bat Babe Ruth used enabled him to hit a baseball further than other human beings. I think this is a concept that needs to be tested. Once the ball leaves the bat, it is in ballistic flight. This makes the issue, does a heavier bat produce a higher exit velocity. I imagine, if the bat was going the same speed at the moment of contact, it would because the force of the ball would retard the speed of the bat by less if the bat was heavier. But then there's the question of exactly what the hitter's body was doing at the moment of contact. Like I said, science is needed.
But, he couldn't. Why is this such a hard concept for people? You accept the illusion, and then counter it with not accepting it's illusion. He didn't do more with his body and the ball in the air than anybody else. He may have given an ILLUSION of doing more. But he can't "do more". I also think just a general bias comes into play. We are told Jordan is amazing in the air. So we literally see, with the help of our sneaky, lying brain, him doing amazing things in the air that seem inhuman, or better than others... but there is no actual truth to the lie we have been taught to believe, if that makes sense.
@@brandoncooke6564 this is a ridiculous take. Look at gymnasts … some do more in the air. Did you see the gold medalist in the vault? She did more than the other girls despite being in the air the same amount of time. I hope this easy to understand analogy makes sense.
Larry bird had multiple 50/40/90 seasons. He just didn't shoot threes as much, but in his prime if he did I'm sure he would be a top 5 shooter. At least top 10. He showed that in his 3 straight 3 point contest wins. There was also more physical defense back then.
You also have to consider that volume is well known to cause an efficiency drop. So in theory, if he did in fact shoot more 3s, he would’ve been shooting like 35%. That’s Lakers LeBron shooting, not bad by any means, but nothing all that special.
@@Ddvgh1 I loved it the thumbnail on my TV had a picture of magic saying it was all a lie Do you believe in magic I don't he's a liar he announced that he contracted a lie on the 311th day And then on 311 the NBA shut down and went to the Magic Kingdom Magic versus bird highest rated game all time Bird born 980 days before Magic Or exactly 32.219 months or C V 19🤔
I have the video paused at 2 min and am wondering if I should even bother watching the rest. Is this entire video really about "hangtime?" If so classical physics says there is no such thing and I'd appreciate not having my time wasted watching the rest of the video.
I think some people took the turn "Hangtime" a little to literal. When I think of MJ "Hangtime" I (like I think most do) are thinking about the time he is in the air. At no point did I ever think MJ was actually "hanging" or coming to a complete stop in the air lol.
but the point is, he actually isn't in the air any longer than anybody else. Well, not longer than anybody else that can jump as high as him. So, what you are saying is still wrong, and what he said in this video IS right. Hang time is literally a myth. Nobody possesses an ability to slow their descent.
@@brandoncooke6564 no it's not right at all Jordan did not lean or do any of that extra bullshit he just jumped and dunked the damn 🏀 he's not jumping equal to everyone else so everyone has a 48inch vertical no 🤦🏾♂️😂😂😂 tell me you're a nerd and you don't play sports without telling me 😂😂😂
Jordan also did a Pump with the ball, you can see it- pushing his arm and the ball up, more momentum up for the height of the dunk cause he was gonna need it to clear his descent. But that's the point of the dunk being so great, he's intuitively moves his body at the exact right times and ways to get the job done, and it looks effortless
I thought it was kinda common knowledge that gravity doesn’t stop when athletes go up to dunk… I always thought hangtime was just how long it takes from the beginning to when they land
Plus hang time is exactly proportional to jump height. So Jordan had a long hang time because he jumped high. End of story. The real question is why someone thought it was necessary to "prove" it with an athlete and a bunch of sensors when it is evident from basic Newtonian physics. Did they think that NBA players were sorcerors or something?
hang time is when they're at their peak height and how long they stay up there. Some people literally look like they're floating when they do a vertical jump
@@ethanabecasis4579 Everyone is at the apex of their jump for one instant, literally 0 seconds. You can make it look longer by changing your center of mass, but it doesn't help you in the game. Perhaps some people think is is aesthetically pleasing?
@@harmonicarchipelgo9351 literally had a question on my uni phys exam telling us to demonstrate why it appears like they "float" by calculating the ratio above h/2 to below it kinda funny it came up after seeing this vid lmao
Good video. This video make me think you didn’t learn about physics until later in life. That’s okay now you know and are educating everyone else. Thank you sir now I’m smarter today than yesterday.
Imma keep it real I never once in my life even considered the theory a man could be suspended in the air through forces that are unknown.. so to me to hear that people actually thought that is intriguing to me
Nobody actually thought hang Time meant that some athletes could literally stay in the air longer than others. What you described is what hang time has always been, their ability to make the most out of the time they spend in the air. Obviously you can't make yourself stay in the air any longer
That's exactly what I thought. Honestly cannot fathom how someone could actually think an actual man could hang in the air (which btw would be the DEFINITION of flying)
He's the same guy who (unless he's being kidnapped each year and having his eyelids taped open) voluntarily watches practice/training videos of Ben Simmons and then voluntarily reads comments underneath the videos. But later complains about watching the videos and reading the comments, acting like someone is forcing him to watch Ben Simmons practicing 3 pt shots. 🤡🤷♂
Excellent point. Plus he'd tell the opposing player exactly how he was going to score on them (one dribble to the left, fade back to a 3) and then he'd do it. I don't think Steph Curry does that.
@@-ac-8296 how about these statistics I loved it the thumbnail on my TV had a picture of magic saying it was all a lie Do you believe in magic I don't he's a liar he announced that he contracted a lie on the 311th day And then on 311 the NBA shut down and went to the Magic Kingdom Magic versus bird highest rated game all time Bird born 980 days before Magic Or exactly 32.219 months or C V 19🤔
@@TornaitSuperBird here's a good one for you Jordan born 5666 days before Kobe Kobe was 4666 days old on Jordan's first Finals game Kobe was 6666 days old on the 33 year anniversary of the JFK assassination
Not having Grant was a huge part of that series vs Magic, you even mentioned it yourself. But if MJ doesn't retire, likely Grant stays with the Bulls which is a whole different story...
We judge players relative to their peers. Bird still qualifies based on how much better he was than others in that era from range. Buddy Hield, Curry and the myriad of players on that list that are 40 years younger than him can't really be compared.
It's harder to be better than the others when there are more "others" to be better than. Who ever was best when the sport was new and small only had to be better than a handful of players.
I always associated Hang time with vertical leap plus forward velocity! Never thought people were floating in mid air as that would defy the laws of physics!
“It’s all it is - my legs kick so it looks like I’m hanging but actually I’m not. Going straight up and straight down. So I fool you… perception.” - Michael Jordan, NBA Jam Session VHS 1993
Another point about hangtime. If you hold the ball at a constant height as he did it masks the parabala of the jump compared to holding the ball at a stretch, which is what he does in these clips, holding it at waist-shoulder level for most of the jump and then pushing for it right at the last second. So the ball seems to rise, plateau and then rise rather than rise, briefly peak and then descend.
You are right, that is what Jordan did and it made it look like he was in the air forever. On liftoff he'd have the ball at head level and then extend as he came down.
Jimmy, bro, you don't realize what worth you're adding to the basketball community. Now at 30 years old., your videos would've had us obsessed back in '05-'10!! Living in Europe, learning about the NBA was such a fckn pain, but you bring the worthy stories, with the stats to back it up. You're fulfilling such an important role man!! Endless respect
Also, Northwestern Uni physics department did a study on this as well. Turns out that, unlike most players, Mike was just as devastating after his peak jump as he was during his rise and peak. Thus giving the naked eye the illusion that he was still in rare air.
Can I just say, this dude puts some of the highest quality content on TH-cam, consistently ? Not even just about basketball. Just content period. Never disappoints
Muggsy didn't have height. What he had was speed, deceptive speed. MJ flew thru the air. Muggsy flew on the ground. It was like he was in a video game or something haha
Hang time has always been from the time you jump to the time you connect with the rim. No one seriously thought a person was suspended in air. Jordan just made his moves simple and clean. And most categorized "free throw dunks" recorded, the player would jump from a few feet in front of the free throw line. Jordan was one of the few, now many, that lept from the actual free throw line giving him superior hand time. Check out Earl the Goat, he had superior hops for his time too.
Back in Detroit around 1969 I was in a friend's backyard with another partner of mine. The three of us were shooting on his rim (there weren't many playground hoops at that time just goals we nailed onto garages or telephone poles with wooden backboards). Soon we noticed three guys coming down the alley. They stopped and asked if they could shoot with us. We said "yeah." We decide to play 3 on 3 and we chose sides. Those guys were at least 12 to 14 years older than us because I remember after we were through playing one of them said he was 28 years old. To make it fair we decided that two of the guys would be on one team together and 4 of us - me, my two buddies and the third older guy, on the other. One team was shirts and the other skins, I don't remember which. Anyway, the 28 year old (skins) goes up for a jump shot and his friend on our team goes up to block his shot. His hand was practically on the ball to block it. I just knew he was going to snuff that pill right back in his face. Well let me tell you, the jump shooter just kept rising and rising. When the blocker looked like he had gone as high as he could go the shooter rose higher! If you wanna' Talk about Hang Time, that was it! And if he Wasn't hanging in the air he was rising in super slow motion just like in the video. Finally he stretched up over his hand and made the shot. He looked to be about 5'9 but by the time he got done stretchin' he was darn near 6 ft tall! Now I'm standing there with my mouth wide open with me and my friend staring at each other in disbelief at what Jxmy says is *_impossible;_* but heck I saw it with my own eyes! Whenever I think about it I have to wonder, is it My Lying Memory fooling me in 2022 or was it My Lying Eyes deceiving me in 1969! Nah. I remember what I remember and saw what I saw and I'm stickin' with it LOL! To this day I have never seen anything *_exactly_* like that again; be it in the NBA, college, high school or even on the playground. I also never saw those 3 guys again either. I do remember though that the 28 years old saying something like 'I drink beer and do everything else but I still can play pretty good.' He wasn't lying! Whenever I see a player stretching over a defender every single time I think about that moment in my young life. Some things you just don't forget.
I got into basketball in 2019 and discovered ur vids prob 6 months later when I was watching highlights. It’s thanks to you I can actually hold a conversation with my basketball nerd friends now and actually understand what they talk about. Good stuff brother
@@Hunterwindle youre too generous toward him, saying he knows all the players... All he wanted is being able to hold a conversation with his nerd friends... sad
@@moonscoop123 yeah Joe is right he giving me too much credit, I have a basic knowledge of the rules and only really know a lot about the Celtics since I grew up a Boston sports fan. Definitely couldn’t even give you the actual names of every team in the NBA think I could name a good amount maybe?
It's simple, MJ had the ability to do more moves or hold his shot until the last possible millisecond before letting go of the ball which ultimately looks like he's hanging up there longer.
true, but doesn't mean he could have won at least 1 more. But you're right about the Rodman thingy and winning 8 straight would be tough but who knows man it's MJ and Phil (with Scottie) still.
@@k-mark9187 Odds are strong they wouldn't have won 8 straight had Jordan nor retired. Remember, they avoided two game 7's on the road in Phoenix and Utah because John Paxson made a clutch shot and Jordan pushed off on Russell. Both of those games could have very easily gone the other way and Jordan or not, winning in a Game 7 on the road is never a sure thing at all and a definite underdog.
@@markellzey1531 I get your point, but it's we would never really know. But we for sure know no matter how close games were, they were on top and to think it's not possible is kinda not playing the odds. It's not like they would not be in contention for the wining the finals right? Granted to with both yes it's a stretch, but to win 1, it's easily possible. So I see it like high, medium, low. high with both winning, medium with 1, and low none. But I would think medium it would land on. But yeah the vid pointing to the loss at Orlando is shortsighted. But to your point, and this is pure speculation and somewhat facts, MJ had the league in his hands (like the push off you mentioned). So in these tight games I'm sure MJ would get the benefit of the doubt, hence why it's possible they would have even won 2 (though mostly like 1 in my mind).
Jxmy the GOAT of Basketball content on TH-cam period!!! Been following him for years now and not once has he ever disappointed with his numbers, charts and mind blowing theories which I just can't get enough of. Keep up the great work, and as always until next time!
I'm an Englishman.. just love jimmy effort and time that he puts into these vids. Hes made me a fan of the sport with the detail and research that he puts in
1:55 you just unlocked my childhood memories. That tv program is the reason I'm into basketball. It's just so cool to know the science behind all sports most especially basketball.
I’m with you on the Ben Simmons, social media concept. I swear this is a true story - I once hit 11 straight half court shots after a practice. Guess what college I played at? I didn’t. I red shirted and then got too sick to play any sport
Never really followed the NBA but I loved the heck out of this video. My dad used to rail against the “hang time “ concept as being bogus you just reminded me of him. Thanks
@@isaaclaughter Also it really does not explain the fact that people can jump farther or higher, obviously they don't hang in the air longer.. but if you're in the air longer it just simply looks like your hanging. There is obviously no pause button for gravity.
@@saulw6270 here's a Larry stat for you Bird versus magic highest-rated game all time Bird born 980 days before magic or exactly 32.2 19 months or cv-19 Magic announced that he contracted a lie on the 311th day NBA shut down on 311 due to a lie and went to the Magic Kingdom Drain the swamp? They did that when they built the Magic Kingdom
10:35 the comment fails to address the facts that 1) Jordan didn't play the whole season, 2) was shooting below his normal average, and 3) the team had only played 17 games before the start of the playoffs which probably meant they weren't fully back in sync. So, yes, he did lose in fact, but if Jordan had been there the whole time, it seems likely the dominance would have continued.
His comments clearly addressed the short number of games, your shooting percentage is from the REGULAR season and is not accurate for the playoffs actually being discussed, and the team went 13-4 during those 17 games. Nothing in your argument really counters what was actually said.
@@Adamdidit The only thing I would add, if Jordan never retired, the Bulls would have put a better roster on the floor in 94 and 95. They would have gone out and got that big man stopper, but, they knew without Jordan, they'd never get far enough for that aspect of the roster to matter. Owners spend money on teams that can win, not teams that just lost the GOAT.
@@Adamdidit I think the counter is that, had Jordan been there for the entire season, the team would have likely been better as a whole, not just better BECAUSE of his stats. He was famously harsh for his demand of excellence even during practice and while his teammates despised him for it at the time they came to realize later in life that he made them better players themselves, not just a better team because he was on it. As far as his shooting percentage and PPG, they were also below average even for the playoffs. 31.5 PPG SOUNDS great, but we are talking about Jordan here and he averaged 35-45 PPG in about half of his playoff series and 33.8 career in the playoffs. All that being said, I still don't see them beating those Rockets in the finals. That team was STACKED, with a prime Olajuwon on top and Drexler, Thorpe, Maxwell, Horry, Elie, Smith, and Cassell.
@@Adamdidit His comments never addressed the short number of games MJ played. He said he was probably in 95 percent basketball shape, but that does not account for the fact that he had a completely different squad (outside basically Scottie) from his '93 championship. He went 13-4 with no camp together and not a full season of ball, if anything that just proves the point he is making.
@@adamm2787 I think his leadership is one aspect, but also just learning the team, building chemistry and Phil Jackson putting it all together with Michael's input.
Bird was the first 3 level scorer Master in the league.(course the 3 point line hadn't been in play for long) But he was the Killer at the 3. You can't compare era's without asterisks next to them. Everyone knows bird was a legendary workaholic. If he went from 3 3 points shots a game to 11 today. He'd be nailing it. Sadly they didn't have better diet and personal trainers back then before injuries took a lot from him. Dude still killed it with a bad back and two bad achilies. But playing injured really took it's toll. Not to mention that he really broke up his shooting hand right before he joined the NBA and had to adjust how he shot the ball. Bird wasn't a bullshiter and he said he shot better before the injury.
You have to remember that the 3 point shot was brand new when bird entered the league. He didn't grow up shooting threes like today's players. So he had to learn on his own how to shoot threes.
When jordan retired in 1993. Grant stuck around for another year, so they wouldn't have had a big man problem. Also if Jordan never left, Grant might not have left, making it 4 rings, and leaving the magic missing their team captain. And if he went to the magic anyways, the bull would have realized that their problems were a big man problem and not a missing superstar.
At 8:30 we are shown a chart that indicates that NBA players are taller than 99.99% of men in the US. We are then told that this is equal to 1 in 1000. Isn't it 1 in 10,000?
Thank you appreciate you. “Look at the air, look at the hang time, look at the flying motion!!” I don’t quite recall who said this but I do remember hearing this about Michael Jordan. Also, personally saw a man from my hood hang in the air like he could control his weight it amazing how he did that
Jimmy had always been one that cherry picks stats to feed his agenda. The fact that he calls everyone plumbers that played in the 90s or early is a clear sign that he has no respect to the legends that played the game before he watched the game. He makes content for lebron fanboys.
In Larry Bird's defense, the guy would literally shoot 3s with his left hand to screw with your head. Plus if you take his best years he'd move to the right on that graph.
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Thumbnail scared me why would u do that
So true what you said about the 94 Rockets being the most balanced team that year, and Olajuwon was in beast mode. No one would beat Hakeem that year. He wanted it.
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It is possible. Cristiano Ronaldo did it. Search for Cristiano Ronaldo head goal😉
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I think the key to "hang time" is making it look like you're not moving in the air. Most players these days are always contorting their body and trying to do something flashy. If you watch some of the longest dunks recorded their knees are tucked in they are holding their arm out with the ball and just waiting to reach the rim, as if they're floating. Nothing fancy, but it looks like they're up there forever.
they aren't trying to be flashy unless it's an open court. Some players don't jump with grace rather they wanna come down with power instead of letting it linger
nah double pump with knees or ur failing yourself.
@@NovocaineTV facts like Vince Carter did
This video debunked literally exactly what you're saying there's no such thing as coming down with power or lingering in the air. That concept literally defies physics. Only way one could come down with more power is if the were forcefully pushed back down through gravity which obviously doesn't happen
I agree with you 💯%.
There's a prolific TH-cam dunker named Tyler. He's super athletic with freakish hops but he's 1 of those flashy guys who tries to do all kinds of moves before flushing the ball.
He's missing the point. I told him to go for distance even if he's just holding the ball cocked without putting it through the legs, behind the back and under his feet.
We want to see you jump from outside the paint and banging it down with authority.
I’m 6 foot 3 and got asked all my life why I didn’t play basketball since I’m “so tall” - I then would point out how tiny Steve Nash looked on the court and would tell people I’m the same height as him…but I moved like I was shaq.
Yeah, I was at the park the other day and I am a pretty good shotblocker for my height. There was a younger kid there who asked me if I had ever been blocked before. For reference, I am 6'2 and had to play center in high school since our school was so short. It's crazy how people struggle to understand how tall basketball players are usually.
Same here brother. I'm a bit taller at 6'5 but I'm literally built like a Defensive End.
I tell people all the time that I would look small on the court and explain that Curry is only 2 inches shorter than me.
Same. I was decent height for the 90s…entirely too small in the 2000s.
I'm 6 foot. I would not even pass as a point guard.
I'm 7ft and I get asked almost everyday if i play ball
"When a player reaches a level of greatness, he becomes the man, the myth , the legend. You just gotta know which is which" Jimmy what a BAR
Replace the word player with TH-camr and you get Jxmy himself
What a bar indeed
THE MAN
THE MYTH
THE LEGENDD
SCOTT STERLING
@JxmyHighroller You should patent that quote/saying Jimmy. Like NOW bro!! If that's possible in the US, everything seems possible I'm the US.
honestly, I was amazed. couldnt think about anything than how good this man scipts his videos
On jump shots, Jordan’s ability to shoot on the way down also gave the illusion he was “hanging” longer than most people.
MJ jumped higher than others so when rotating his body for a fade away and falling down he had more time visibly to make the shot plus his upper part of the body must have been much stronger to actually excel and have great accuracy at controlling the ball during the shooting.
Dk if it just me but I think its mjs ability to move mid air with his high vert makes the illusion
Bird did that too, he'd often get fouled by waiting
His hang time has nothing to do with his jump shot. More about dunks and lay ups.
@@djbryson Bullshit. You can literally watch countless videos of him shooting on the way down in his jump shots. I watched damn near every game of Jordan's, growing up in Chicago. You have no idea what you're talking about.
Jimmy is so confident in his content that he's promoting treatment against hair loss for when LBJ tunes in. Well played.
😂
Ain't no way you hating on bron under a YT vid that ain't even about him.
@@alby375 cry about it
@@DerLetzteAsket you the one that gotta man's in your head rent free I'm chillin bro
can't lebron just get hair implants ?
Jxmy's 13 minutes videos feels like 3 minutes because of how good it is. I could do an hour long episode each time!
if you savour it, then it would be long
@@osas5211 Sounds like my girlfriend :(
Fax
@@rex8329 W Comment
hell, even 45 mins twice a week
Bro i swear to god this guy is the best basketball content creator rn. The amount of effort he puts into each video is just immeasurable
Should also check out DylanDoesBasketball some high quality NBA content there also!
In regards to basketball content he is built different, dude is GOATED
Hes been the best for awhile ngl . Jxmy is something else
I second this 👌
For sure, when he doesn't use the incredibly shitty clickbait titles lol. But lately it's been going better
The other thing that lower's three point shooting percentage in the Bird era, is that in that time 3 pointers were primary made as bail out shots under heaps of pressure. Rarely did they use to find an advantage.
It isn't just 3s, he could shoot anything from anywhere. There are only 9 members of the 50/40/90 club, which Bird started. He is also one of only 3 that has done it more than once.
I think you really have to measure it against ones peers. if two players shoot the same number of 3's in a year and one is on top of the league in the 80's and the same number puts you mid pack in the 2020's, you have to credit the earlier player because the later players built off of what came before.
music example: if Eric Clapton came out in 2020 (as a teen same as in the 60's), he would be an unspectacular player, because so much exists not that didn't exist then. people said he was God because they had less experience then.
Now we have computer models and sports body mechanic professionals and nutrition and coaches that game for 3's. a lot of that did not exist in the Byrd era.
just one guy's opinion.
It wasn’t considered a good shot back then. Centers dominated the game. Most points were scored from the free throw line in even for guards.
"You can't beat the laws of physics"
Mj: " And I took that personally"
And he lost anyways
@@clairyus1236 he needed a 48, got a 50 and won lmfao. That was his second in a year
Strange view of hang time. I always thought hangtime meant people stayed in the air longer because they could jump higher , not because they could actually hang, hover or levitate.
100% lol
americans taking things literally
I know. Science center is trying to figure out hang time and they pulled jordan farmar to test that out with. What? Talk about poor sample size. He barely reached the rim himself.
No one thought it meant levitation accept this guy and the people from the show sports science. Those same people also thought there was such a thing as "the quarterback mask" which could predict superbowl winning qbs based on facial features
You know that we had a physics model in the 1700s that explains this. This is literally the basics of classic Physics. We are talking Newton and the made up apple story lol.
I’ve always pictured “hang time” just how long the athlete is in the air when jumping. Either way MJ clearly exemplifies it
Air time would be a better word than hang time. All those people thinking hang time is a thing are just next level dumb. So good on you for understanding that you can't hang in the air, lol
This video is a myth. Don’t take it too seriously. It’s framed for spicy content but in reality the only “myth” he covered was the last one, about the 8peat
@@stolensentience you have nothing to counter those facts
@@stolensentience and the Larry bird take was pretty bad too
Exactly. Same thought here
Bird was a winner,his 3's winners games, forged his legend.
I agree with your argument for Bird not being an all-time three point scorer but I would still love to see Larry’s three point scoring adjusted to today’s nba
I think that it is fair to say that if you were to take Bird and Reggie Miller to todays game, they'd still find their way up to the top 10.
In the modern game people are chucking three pointers with 18 seconds on the clock for crying out loud.
If players back then did that, they'd be sent to the locker rooms to wash the towels until they "learned better"
@@Hundredzs it’s not easy to block and he was pretty good at contested shots. I think he would’ve been fine
Larry would find today's no pressure era so easy he would be bored
Larry shot roughly the same as KD and the Celtics didn't even practice 3pt shots. According to Bird himself. So it's stands to reason he'd only do even better if took hundreds of 3s at practice every day. Any shooter list without Bird on it is a joke.
@@sejuanisupportonly7385 Like PG said "that's a bad shot". Well for much of the 80s, ALL 3s were considered a bad shot. A desperation shot.
Much respect to MJ and The Bulls always. Houston fan for 35 years however, so I really appreciate this! Thanks JXMY!
The frustrating part is you hear people say Hakeem was lucky Jordan retired, when reality is that for those two years Dreem was a dominant as anyone I have ever seen on the court. Jordan is Jordan and for sure has goat status, but let us not pretend that everyone who played why he was retired don't count, especially Houston who won back-to-back, that is a difficult task and IMO proves you were not just some fluke
@@ronharris9829 Not to mention they did it as the 6th seed the second year.
“When a player reaches greatness, he becomes the man, the myth, and the legend, you just gotta know which is which.”
th-cam.com/video/xJ3BtbjlA1E/w-d-xo.html Steph Curry is a legend among men
Spud Web's performance at the 1986 Dunk Contest looked like it practically defied physics.
⭐️ interesting to point out that although Spud Webbs dunks were impressive af, Jordan actually had a higher recorded vert... Spud Webbs vert was @45" and Jordan's vert was a full 48" in his prime... crazy huh..?
That's literally what jumping is
@@franzjones179true vertical has to be measured electronically at the sternum. Most measurements are done by how high one can touch something which has a number of variables (arm/ hand/finger length, shoulder/elbow/wrist joint ligament/tendon elasticity, etc) which has nothing to do with how high one jumped.
As a numbers guy, I can't ever get enough of your vids. The charts and everything you do to explain yourself just blow my mind. Thanks for what you do
He’s a genius with numbers bro I love it
th-cam.com/video/xJ3BtbjlA1E/w-d-xo.html Steph Curry is a legend among men
I get so annoyed when he exaggerates them by not starting the scale from 0 😂
I'm so confused. For 40 years, I always thought hang time was universally understood to mean time spent off the ground. Had I misunderstood it this whole time? Does it, as this video claims, mean to sustain the peak elevation of the jump over time? It's hard to believe everyone believed Jordan broke the laws of physics.
I honestly thought the comment section would be full of comments like this :) It's indeed hard to believe most people believed in that definition of hang time
If you look carefully..why Jordan seems to hang on air longer is because he double pump when jumping..when he jump..during midflight..he will extend his spine and arm longer to give him a bit more height..and that is why he appears to hang on air..you need a very strong spine control and power to pull it off..watch it on slow mo..you will see jt..during midflight..
He seems to hang longer if you put it in slow motion lol
Amen Thomas. Amen Goodrebel music. I had to check and see if anyone else was thinking this too. Lol! People actually truly believed that humans could hang in their air. How is this even a conversation right? The term ‘hang time’ has never ever meant anything other than:”How HIGH/FAR can this guy jump?”
I should make a video about the Easter-bunny not being a real thing. Some people’s minds might actually be blown.
That is what it means. How long are you in the air for. That's it, nothing else.
I never thought hang time meant Jordan could actually "hang" in the air. That's ridiculous.
Thank you! Just enjoy the greatest..
yea this video was absolutely moronic
Yep. And people actually thing we need a theory to prove that. Lol
Some people who believe Jordan can float/fly? I am not joking here. I am simply explaining in perspective. About 15% of American Millennials believe that the Earth is flat. If 15% of Millennials believe the Earth is flat.... it should not be difficult to believe about 10-20% of people really think Jordan can float.
@@Chemicalkinetics "About 15% of American Millennials believe that the Earth is flat." -Source: Believe me
Bird was known as a great three-point shooter NOT because he made a high-percentage or that he made a LOT of them but because he made them when the team needed them most --- at the end of games, with no time on the clock, to tie a game, etc. etc.... You have yet to prove anyone better at THAT then Bird.
Ironically enough, that is also a myth. Play-by-play statistics show that over the entire sample size of his career, he was no better with higher/lower points deficit, more/less time remaining on the game clock or shot clock, etc.
@@YourFavouriteDraugr What about the lack of defense played these days in comparison to the 70s and 80s?
@@QuickTipsAccounting literally though the defense back then makes today's era look like baby's imagine the game if you still could defend people like you could back then
Bird is an amazing 3pt shooter…not a myth. Context matters.
@@YourFavouriteDraugr SMH. It's not about being better when it's on the line. It's about staying consistent when it's on the line. That is what makes someone clutch.
Jimmy your storytelling is what is captivating. I mean, compiling the clips is a whole lotta work, but the storytelling behind it is a gift.
For the off-season clips part… it’s completely true. At my local gym in New Hampshire there was a ref who played nba for a year or two. Only made it to Gleague. Luke Bonner. Brother of Matt Bonner. Dude was automatic from 3pt. Made like 20 something straight. With out trying. And this is a guy who never actually made it. Pros are on another level
Matt Bonner was a certified sniper, doesn’t surprise me his brother would be too. Crazy how good even these G-League guys are compared to us shmucks
Then why do you see so many pros with WIDE OPEN 3 looks and just brick them? I'm guessing L Bonner is a great shooter who lacked other skills (too short, too slow, too uncoordinated, etc)
@@RS-sp9hj because that’s the only skill you need right? Smfh. Go away before you say something else to embarrass yourself more
@@RS-sp9hj pressure in an actual game is incomparable
@@abhrajitdhar4628 Not really. Actual games matter very little. In fact star players routinely sit out because they think ... it doesn't matter. So there's very little pressure
Everytime I see JXMY uploading, I always expect to see an MJ fact that I have never heard of.
Fr, btw you're everywhere in the comments lol
I got all kinds of Jordan facts nobody knows
@@6079.Smith.W We all know, they's jus facts people don't care for as much, sorry
MJ did one simple thing to create an awesome illusion of flying or hanging in the air: in the first part of his move towards the basket after the jump he curled his legs up and bended his arms as if he was smaller and more ball-like, in the second part of the jump he basically stretched out his arms kept his head straight and stretched his legs. All of this made an impression he was levitating in the air and being there longer than actually was the fact. It looks super graceful and amazing but the physics of it are completely unchanged.
It’s so simple it’s never been recreated
@@GritznGravy08exactly 😂
It’s about time someone shows Klay the respect he deserves. The things I’ve seen him do in regards of shooting can only be compared to steph and dame, respectfully
nah i haven't seen his logo game
he's better than Dame
@@osas5211 did you watch basketball in 2016? He had that one game against kings where he dropped 52, 37 coming in one quarter? He was hitting logo 3’s in that game. He even had one where he pointed at the ground before shooting. Plus the 14 3’s in a game there’s literally no shooter that can get hot as klay and that alone sets him apart from other great shooters. Just fyi lebron and trae were behind dame and steph for logo 3’s and neither of them were ever top 5 shooters. There’s more too it than just range
@@Bilaldane in terms of shooting I agree but dames jump shooting ability is comparable to klays
@@osas5211 he is consistent, not as flashy as steph
I thought we all knew “hang time” was an illusion (because, you know … physics 🤷), but the illusion is drastic between people. Jordan could do a lot with his body and the ball in the air.
Lies again? NBA GOALS
“Air Jordan”
But it didn't alter his actual trajectory by more than a dime, if at all. I think it has been shown that someone in the air can alter their trajectory slightly through body movement. But slightly is the operative word, and if it was by more than the diameter of a dime, I would surprised. In fact, I would surprised if it was that much. Baseball has its myths too. The rising fastball, for example. It has been shown, pitched balls fall at exactly the rate predicted by physics. The curve ball curves because it is moving left to right or right to left. It perhaps loses more velocity than a fastball per each unit of distance between the mound and the plate because it actually is traveling further. If the spin on the pitch affects a pitch's rate of fall, the effect is infinitesimal. Though an infinitesimal distance can be the difference between a home run and a hard ground out.
Another baseball myth is how far a human being can hit a baseball. In still air, the limit seems to be about 500 feet, maybe 530 at the most. If any home runs have been hit further than that, they have been wind aided. Some have argued that the heavy bat Babe Ruth used enabled him to hit a baseball further than other human beings. I think this is a concept that needs to be tested. Once the ball leaves the bat, it is in ballistic flight. This makes the issue, does a heavier bat produce a higher exit velocity. I imagine, if the bat was going the same speed at the moment of contact, it would because the force of the ball would retard the speed of the bat by less if the bat was heavier. But then there's the question of exactly what the hitter's body was doing at the moment of contact. Like I said, science is needed.
But, he couldn't. Why is this such a hard concept for people? You accept the illusion, and then counter it with not accepting it's illusion. He didn't do more with his body and the ball in the air than anybody else. He may have given an ILLUSION of doing more. But he can't "do more". I also think just a general bias comes into play. We are told Jordan is amazing in the air. So we literally see, with the help of our sneaky, lying brain, him doing amazing things in the air that seem inhuman, or better than others... but there is no actual truth to the lie we have been taught to believe, if that makes sense.
@@brandoncooke6564 this is a ridiculous take. Look at gymnasts … some do more in the air. Did you see the gold medalist in the vault? She did more than the other girls despite being in the air the same amount of time. I hope this easy to understand analogy makes sense.
Larry bird had multiple 50/40/90 seasons. He just didn't shoot threes as much, but in his prime if he did I'm sure he would be a top 5 shooter. At least top 10. He showed that in his 3 straight 3 point contest wins. There was also more physical defense back then.
Not to mention the line was moved in 1 ft 9 inches in 1996
He’s not top five still. He hasn’t even made 500 threes in his career
You also have to consider that volume is well known to cause an efficiency drop. So in theory, if he did in fact shoot more 3s, he would’ve been shooting like 35%. That’s Lakers LeBron shooting, not bad by any means, but nothing all that special.
This physical defense is quite bullshit, plus it absolutely doesn't affect 3pt shooting
@@Ddvgh1 I loved it the thumbnail on my TV had a picture of magic saying it was all a lie
Do you believe in magic I don't he's a liar he announced that he contracted a lie on the 311th day
And then on 311 the NBA shut down and went to the Magic Kingdom
Magic versus bird highest rated game all time
Bird born 980 days before Magic
Or exactly
32.219 months or
C V 19🤔
The league didn't adopt the 3-pointer until 1979 Larry Bird's rookie season. Just imagine if Larry Bird was shooting threes his entire life.
Newton : “ there is no concept of hang time, it’s just an illusion “
Michael: “ I took that personally “
I have the video paused at 2 min and am wondering if I should even bother watching the rest. Is this entire video really about "hangtime?" If so classical physics says there is no such thing and I'd appreciate not having my time wasted watching the rest of the video.
@@Hotobu na bro it's about other NBA myths. not just hang time. jimmy used it as an interesting intro that's all.
U spelt Michael wrong.
He took that personally.
@@telekitosh5407 😂on it
Why have numerous players talk about jumpn agains him yet they all come down before he did if it isnt real, idk just askn!!!!
Your performance never lets us down Jimmy. Love the content!
Pun intended?
You really thought Michael Jordan could float?
Im so let down that the first concept was on HANG TIME like ya the NBA hasnt convinced me of levitation 😂😂 i do that alone
I think some people took the turn "Hangtime" a little to literal. When I think of MJ "Hangtime" I (like I think most do) are thinking about the time he is in the air. At no point did I ever think MJ was actually "hanging" or coming to a complete stop in the air lol.
📠 All hangtime is how long you stay in the air I can't believe people are that stupid bro 😂😂
Same thing I said.
but the point is, he actually isn't in the air any longer than anybody else. Well, not longer than anybody else that can jump as high as him. So, what you are saying is still wrong, and what he said in this video IS right. Hang time is literally a myth. Nobody possesses an ability to slow their descent.
@@brandoncooke6564 no it's not right at all Jordan did not lean or do any of that extra bullshit he just jumped and dunked the damn 🏀 he's not jumping equal to everyone else so everyone has a 48inch vertical no 🤦🏾♂️😂😂😂 tell me you're a nerd and you don't play sports without telling me 😂😂😂
@@brandoncooke6564 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 is all I got to say to you
Jordan also did a Pump with the ball, you can see it- pushing his arm and the ball up, more momentum up for the height of the dunk cause he was gonna need it to clear his descent. But that's the point of the dunk being so great, he's intuitively moves his body at the exact right times and ways to get the job done, and it looks effortless
Tell em!
I thought it was kinda common knowledge that gravity doesn’t stop when athletes go up to dunk… I always thought hangtime was just how long it takes from the beginning to when they land
Plus hang time is exactly proportional to jump height. So Jordan had a long hang time because he jumped high. End of story.
The real question is why someone thought it was necessary to "prove" it with an athlete and a bunch of sensors when it is evident from basic Newtonian physics. Did they think that NBA players were sorcerors or something?
hang time is when they're at their peak height and how long they stay up there. Some people literally look like they're floating when they do a vertical jump
@@ethanabecasis4579 Everyone is at the apex of their jump for one instant, literally 0 seconds. You can make it look longer by changing your center of mass, but it doesn't help you in the game.
Perhaps some people think is is aesthetically pleasing?
@@harmonicarchipelgo9351 literally had a question on my uni phys exam telling us to demonstrate why it appears like they "float" by calculating the ratio above h/2 to below it
kinda funny it came up after seeing this vid lmao
Literally watched the entire video. It didn’t feel like it was 13mins. Your content is impeccable
Respectfully quit simpin’
I’m jk 💀💀
yes
quick question - How long do you think the kings will be a franchise for?
Couple months lmao
1 year
Every league needs a jabroni
bring vancouver back
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Good video. This video make me think you didn’t learn about physics until later in life. That’s okay now you know and are educating everyone else. Thank you sir now I’m smarter today than yesterday.
It boggles my mind how jimmy consistently puts out banger videos. HOW DOES HE DO IT?
It’s probably a myth
It's probably a myth
It's probably a myth
It's probably a myth
It’s probably a myth
Imma keep it real I never once in my life even considered the theory a man could be suspended in the air through forces that are unknown.. so to me to hear that people actually thought that is intriguing to me
True, but if we're basing our studies on one person, and that person is Jordan Farmer, I think we need more candidates 🤣🤣🤣
I think some players just have so much hops that when we see "levitation" they are merely transferring from elevating to descending.
nobody did. this video is weird
and they made a research about it. that is worse.
No one thought that.
Nobody actually thought hang Time meant that some athletes could literally stay in the air longer than others. What you described is what hang time has always been, their ability to make the most out of the time they spend in the air. Obviously you can't make yourself stay in the air any longer
Exactly
That's exactly what I thought. Honestly cannot fathom how someone could actually think an actual man could hang in the air (which btw would be the DEFINITION of flying)
I think this presentation is a myth
He's the same guy who (unless he's being kidnapped each year and having his eyelids taped open) voluntarily watches practice/training videos of Ben Simmons and then voluntarily reads comments underneath the videos. But later complains about watching the videos and reading the comments, acting like someone is forcing him to watch Ben Simmons practicing 3 pt shots. 🤡🤷♂
Yeah, this guy thoroughly explained something that didn't need explaining because absolutely no one had a misconception about what "hang time" meant.
3 point line when Bird played was 25ft. It was shortened to 23ft 9in in 1994.
Excellent point. Plus he'd tell the opposing player exactly how he was going to score on them (one dribble to the left, fade back to a 3) and then he'd do it. I don't think Steph Curry does that.
Came here to say the same thing. Did the creator know that and ignore it?
Didn't they move it back later?
@@owensmith2137yes, like a year or two later.
There’s a creator who did the stats for “4-point shot”. Larry is also missing there.
“contrary to popular belief, athletes can’t hang in mid air.” Yoooo, I literally thought they just floated!!
Hang time is a myth!? No way! Next you’ll tell me that when you break someone’s ankles, they are not actually broken.
That “Man,Myth,Legend” gave me chills.
Larry Bird in today’s NBA with his skillset would have been a cheatcode.
Thank you for bringing statistics and logic to the nba fandom, it is desperately needed.
No, he brings cherry picked statistics and his bias
@@-ac-8296 Are you willing to do the same?
@@-ac-8296 how about these statistics
I loved it the thumbnail on my TV had a picture of magic saying it was all a lie
Do you believe in magic I don't he's a liar he announced that he contracted a lie on the 311th day
And then on 311 the NBA shut down and went to the Magic Kingdom
Magic versus bird highest rated game all time
Bird born 980 days before Magic
Or exactly
32.219 months or
C V 19🤔
@@TornaitSuperBird here's a good one for you
Jordan born 5666 days before Kobe
Kobe was 4666 days old on Jordan's first Finals game
Kobe was 6666 days old on the 33 year anniversary of the JFK assassination
Lmao yeah because the nba doesn’t make a big enough deal about stats
I love how he doesn’t even have to necessarily have one particular story to tell and the content still so damn good you can’t stop watching
Not having Grant was a huge part of that series vs Magic, you even mentioned it yourself. But if MJ doesn't retire, likely Grant stays with the Bulls which is a whole different story...
We judge players relative to their peers. Bird still qualifies based on how much better he was than others in that era from range. Buddy Hield, Curry and the myriad of players on that list that are 40 years younger than him can't really be compared.
It's harder to be better than the others when there are more "others" to be better than. Who ever was best when the sport was new and small only had to be better than a handful of players.
That's literally what he said that bird was great in his era of shooting, same era as Chuck parsons and Ellis
That's why it remains stupid to compare players from different eras.
@@34JohannesHeinz34 There were practically the same number of NBA players in the 80s, maybe 10% less due to lower number of teams.
@@udishomer5852 What he mean is basketball is more of a global sport now than it is then. So, the talent pool is larger today than ever before.
great vid as always jimmy, keep up the great stuff!
Commenting this aint gonna get you any more views ☠️
Whoa, it’s Pad. Didn’t realize the Venn diagram intersected here haha, what up
Absolute banger of a video. You outdid yourself on this one as you do every single video. My hat is off to you.
Jordan talked about this back in the 90s. He talked about how he adjusted his legs to create the illusion of floating.
I always associated Hang time with vertical leap plus forward velocity! Never thought people were floating in mid air as that would defy the laws of physics!
The NBA has some stupid fans lol let's be honest.
Hang time is just time spent in the air, stupid af video
“It’s all it is - my legs kick so it looks like I’m hanging but actually I’m not. Going straight up and straight down. So I fool you… perception.” - Michael Jordan, NBA Jam Session VHS 1993
Another point about hangtime. If you hold the ball at a constant height as he did it masks the parabala of the jump compared to holding the ball at a stretch, which is what he does in these clips, holding it at waist-shoulder level for most of the jump and then pushing for it right at the last second. So the ball seems to rise, plateau and then rise rather than rise, briefly peak and then descend.
The league didn't adopt the 3-pointer until 1979 Larry Bird's rookie season. Just imagine if Larry Bird was shooting threes his entire life.
You are right, that is what Jordan did and it made it look like he was in the air forever. On liftoff he'd have the ball at head level and then extend as he came down.
When you went about GSW assembling the JZA, that shot with Kawhi & the Raptors brought me chuckle, thanks Jimmy. Need it today.
Jimmy, bro,
you don't realize what worth you're adding to the basketball community. Now at 30 years old., your videos would've had us obsessed back in '05-'10!! Living in Europe, learning about the NBA was such a fckn pain, but you bring the worthy stories, with the stats to back it up.
You're fulfilling such an important role man!!
Endless respect
Great video btw,
If that statistic at 8:24 is true then they would actually be 1 in 10,000 not 1 in 1000
Scrolled way too far down for this. Thank you! Well spotted.
Correct. I noticed that too.
It's because Jimmy's High, roller. Mans out here coasting on reputation.
Not to mention 40 is not 2% of 590
Also, Northwestern Uni physics department did a study on this as well. Turns out that, unlike most players, Mike was just as devastating after his peak jump as he was during his rise and peak. Thus giving the naked eye the illusion that he was still in rare air.
They need to film StageCraft
In an arena
7:35
with Slipknot playing on that stage lighting and PA system installed behind!
Giving a shout out to Lonzo's progress and work....loved that. And loved the video as a whole!
Awesome videos Jxmy, helps me learn a bunch and super easy to watch + entertaining. Subbed for life
Didn't expect to see hbox here but hey, that's awesome, hbox is a jxmy fan!
Damn, finding HBox on a Jxmy video what the heck
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Would you said that jigglypuff is the giannis of smash?
Can I just say, this dude puts some of the highest quality content on TH-cam, consistently ?
Not even just about basketball. Just content period. Never disappoints
Nah. He doesn't.
@@Romamb Yes he does
@@Romamb format wise yes
Hearing those NBA numbers on Heigh gives me a even deeper amazement and love for Muggsy Bogues!!
Muggsy didn't have height. What he had was speed, deceptive speed. MJ flew thru the air. Muggsy flew on the ground. It was like he was in a video game or something haha
Hang time has always been from the time you jump to the time you connect with the rim. No one seriously thought a person was suspended in air. Jordan just made his moves simple and clean. And most categorized "free throw dunks" recorded, the player would jump from a few feet in front of the free throw line. Jordan was one of the few, now many, that lept from the actual free throw line giving him superior hand time. Check out Earl the Goat, he had superior hops for his time too.
12:04 Kenny “The Jet” Smith. What an absolute legend.
I wonder if he ever got Hakeem his water?
" it was all dream till i got there "
@@SpazzMatticusTheGreat hhahhaa that's from the half time show
Kenny burner found
@@SpazzMatticusTheGreat or president got his hotdog...
Back in Detroit around 1969 I was in a friend's backyard with another partner of mine. The three of us were shooting on his rim (there weren't many playground hoops at that time just goals we nailed onto garages or telephone poles with wooden backboards). Soon we noticed three guys coming down the alley. They stopped and asked if they could shoot with us. We said "yeah." We decide to play 3 on 3 and we chose sides.
Those guys were at least 12 to 14 years older than us because I remember after we were through playing one of them said he was 28 years old. To make it fair we decided that two of the guys would be on one team together and 4 of us - me, my two buddies and the third older guy, on the other.
One team was shirts and the other skins, I don't remember which. Anyway, the 28 year old (skins) goes up for a jump shot and his friend on our team goes up to block his shot. His hand was practically on the ball to block it. I just knew he was going to snuff that pill right back in his face. Well let me tell you, the jump shooter just kept rising and rising. When the blocker looked like he had gone as high as he could go the shooter rose higher! If you wanna' Talk about Hang Time, that was it! And if he Wasn't hanging in the air he was rising in super slow motion just like in the video.
Finally he stretched up over his hand and made the shot. He looked to be about 5'9 but by the time he got done stretchin' he was darn near 6 ft tall! Now I'm standing there with my mouth wide open with me and my friend staring at each other in disbelief at what Jxmy says is *_impossible;_* but heck I saw it with my own eyes! Whenever I think about it I have to wonder, is it My Lying Memory fooling me in 2022 or was it My Lying Eyes deceiving me in 1969! Nah. I remember what I remember and saw what I saw and I'm stickin' with it LOL!
To this day I have never seen anything *_exactly_* like that again; be it in the NBA, college, high school or even on the playground. I also never saw those 3 guys again either. I do remember though that the 28 years old saying something like 'I drink beer and do everything else but I still can play pretty good.' He wasn't lying! Whenever I see a player stretching over a defender every single time I think about that moment in my young life. Some things you just don't forget.
This was pretty cool to read !! Wish if i saw it personally you made me really curious lol
@@acorpse.334 same it was so cool i imagine 1969 basketball people doing skyhooks and layups and driving to the hoop
Yeah I was balling in 69 talk about short shorts
The guy just simply jumped higher.
@@CCDaDon15 Ok.
Bird made 3 pointers when the game was on the line and that’s what matters !
I got into basketball in 2019 and discovered ur vids prob 6 months later when I was watching highlights. It’s thanks to you I can actually hold a conversation with my basketball nerd friends now and actually understand what they talk about. Good stuff brother
did you get in school ? if not, dont make kids, they will be dumber then you. Will grow full of hate and finish killed during a robbery.
Ong bro. there's a difference between being good at basketball and knowing every player and every thing that has happened in NBA history
@@Hunterwindle youre too generous toward him, saying he knows all the players...
All he wanted is being able to hold a conversation with his nerd friends... sad
@@moonscoop123 yeah Joe is right he giving me too much credit, I have a basic knowledge of the rules and only really know a lot about the Celtics since I grew up a Boston sports fan. Definitely couldn’t even give you the actual names of every team in the NBA think I could name a good amount maybe?
@@moonscoop123 nah i was talking about his friends
It's simple, MJ had the ability to do more moves or hold his shot until the last possible millisecond before letting go of the ball which ultimately looks like he's hanging up there longer.
Which is really hard to do btw
He explained in a Documentary is a trick with his legs, notice the legs in his Dunks
Correct. Hang time is an illusion.
@@albaniampureana8602 wtf if not a trick...its call hops aka hang time.... U would know have known this if you were a jumper
@@thebatspadeologist6004 He said in a documentary, he knows how to make it seem like his Dunks last longer, yes hangtime + his leg movements.
Love the analysis about the Bulls winning 8 straight. That Magic series is exactly why they signed Dennis Rodman in that offseason.
Yep, Jordan never won squat without an all-star caliber PF (Horace Grant, then Denis Rodman)
@@DFreshTV Lebron never won squat without an actual allstar pf.. bosh, love, davis. Interesting
true, but doesn't mean he could have won at least 1 more. But you're right about the Rodman thingy and winning 8 straight would be tough but who knows man it's MJ and Phil (with Scottie) still.
@@k-mark9187 Odds are strong they wouldn't have won 8 straight had Jordan nor retired. Remember, they avoided two game 7's on the road in Phoenix and Utah because John Paxson made a clutch shot and Jordan pushed off on Russell. Both of those games could have very easily gone the other way and Jordan or not, winning in a Game 7 on the road is never a sure thing at all and a definite underdog.
@@markellzey1531 I get your point, but it's we would never really know. But we for sure know no matter how close games were, they were on top and to think it's not possible is kinda not playing the odds. It's not like they would not be in contention for the wining the finals right? Granted to with both yes it's a stretch, but to win 1, it's easily possible. So I see it like high, medium, low. high with both winning, medium with 1, and low none. But I would think medium it would land on. But yeah the vid pointing to the loss at Orlando is shortsighted. But to your point, and this is pure speculation and somewhat facts, MJ had the league in his hands (like the push off you mentioned). So in these tight games I'm sure MJ would get the benefit of the doubt, hence why it's possible they would have even won 2 (though mostly like 1 in my mind).
3:20 errr, understanding the physics, understanding what he was able to do… without “magic”, but with talent… far more impressive!
Jxmy the GOAT of Basketball content on TH-cam period!!! Been following him for years now and not once has he ever disappointed with his numbers, charts and mind blowing theories which I just can't get enough of. Keep up the great work, and as always until next time!
I'm an Englishman.. just love jimmy effort and time that he puts into these vids. Hes made me a fan of the sport with the detail and research that he puts in
1:55 you just unlocked my childhood memories. That tv program is the reason I'm into basketball. It's just so cool to know the science behind all sports most especially basketball.
I’m with you on the Ben Simmons, social media concept. I swear this is a true story - I once hit 11 straight half court shots after a practice. Guess what college I played at? I didn’t. I red shirted and then got too sick to play any sport
NFL needs one of these. QB glorification getting crazy. You’d almost forget there were 10 other guys on offense.
I absolutely agree with you...shot out to the creator of this video...lets give football a shot.
I laughed my ass off when you called the dubs the Justice League of basketball.
Did people legitimately believe "hangtime" was literally or physically possible? I'm disappointed
Yeah, we all know this. No one really thought MJ could defy the laws of physics.
been watching for awhile man. Truly impressed with how far you have come with your ability and content. Proud fan moment
Never really followed the NBA but I loved the heck out of this video. My dad used to rail against the “hang time “ concept as being bogus you just reminded me of him. Thanks
I didn’t know people actually thought ‘hang time’ was a real thing. Lol!
@@isaaclaughter Also it really does not explain the fact that people can jump farther or higher, obviously they don't hang in the air longer.. but if you're in the air longer it just simply looks like your hanging. There is obviously no pause button for gravity.
I think the Larry stat isn't fair. I think you should have had that graph but for the 1980-2000. Then you could judge his ability
He explains that he was the best of his era but now he’s below the 3pt ablity of big men
@@saulw6270 here's a Larry stat for you
Bird versus magic highest-rated game all time
Bird born 980 days before magic or exactly 32.2 19 months or cv-19
Magic announced that he contracted a lie on the 311th day
NBA shut down on 311 due to a lie and went to the Magic Kingdom
Drain the swamp? They did that when they built the Magic Kingdom
@@6079.Smith.W what the fuck have I just read
@@6079.Smith.W Yea this is tasteless
@@6079.Smith.W Lmao wtffff
It didn't have to take rocket science if you ever jumped for yourself ever in life 😂
“This is what an average guy would look like in the league” :shows Nate Robinson obliterating the rim
10:35 the comment fails to address the facts that 1) Jordan didn't play the whole season, 2) was shooting below his normal average, and 3) the team had only played 17 games before the start of the playoffs which probably meant they weren't fully back in sync. So, yes, he did lose in fact, but if Jordan had been there the whole time, it seems likely the dominance would have continued.
His comments clearly addressed the short number of games, your shooting percentage is from the REGULAR season and is not accurate for the playoffs actually being discussed, and the team went 13-4 during those 17 games.
Nothing in your argument really counters what was actually said.
@@Adamdidit The only thing I would add, if Jordan never retired, the Bulls would have put a better roster on the floor in 94 and 95. They would have gone out and got that big man stopper, but, they knew without Jordan, they'd never get far enough for that aspect of the roster to matter. Owners spend money on teams that can win, not teams that just lost the GOAT.
@@Adamdidit I think the counter is that, had Jordan been there for the entire season, the team would have likely been better as a whole, not just better BECAUSE of his stats. He was famously harsh for his demand of excellence even during practice and while his teammates despised him for it at the time they came to realize later in life that he made them better players themselves, not just a better team because he was on it.
As far as his shooting percentage and PPG, they were also below average even for the playoffs. 31.5 PPG SOUNDS great, but we are talking about Jordan here and he averaged 35-45 PPG in about half of his playoff series and 33.8 career in the playoffs.
All that being said, I still don't see them beating those Rockets in the finals. That team was STACKED, with a prime Olajuwon on top and Drexler, Thorpe, Maxwell, Horry, Elie, Smith, and Cassell.
@@Adamdidit His comments never addressed the short number of games MJ played. He said he was probably in 95 percent basketball shape, but that does not account for the fact that he had a completely different squad (outside basically Scottie) from his '93 championship.
He went 13-4 with no camp together and not a full season of ball, if anything that just proves the point he is making.
@@adamm2787 I think his leadership is one aspect, but also just learning the team, building chemistry and Phil Jackson putting it all together with Michael's input.
I genuinely don’t know how you do this, you make amazing content in the span of days
Bird was the first 3 level scorer Master in the league.(course the 3 point line hadn't been in play for long) But he was the Killer at the 3.
You can't compare era's without asterisks next to them. Everyone knows bird was a legendary workaholic. If he went from 3 3 points shots a game to 11 today. He'd be nailing it. Sadly they didn't have better diet and personal trainers back then before injuries took a lot from him.
Dude still killed it with a bad back and two bad achilies. But playing injured really took it's toll.
Not to mention that he really broke up his shooting hand right before he joined the NBA and had to adjust how he shot the ball. Bird wasn't a bullshiter and he said he shot better before the injury.
You have to remember that the 3 point shot was brand new when bird entered the league. He didn't grow up shooting threes like today's players. So he had to learn on his own how to shoot threes.
he literally said that in the video
@@ZenithVal_ No not really. He talked about Bird in today's game but that's about it.
@@jamesfitzgerald1684 yeah he did... he literally said that bird mightve developed a three if he grew up in an era with threes.
@@jamesfitzgerald1684 did you even watch the video??
It's amazing how you make every video so interesting and effortless. Keep up these videos.
Keep up the grind my brotha love your work ❤️
When jordan retired in 1993. Grant stuck around for another year, so they wouldn't have had a big man problem. Also if Jordan never left, Grant might not have left, making it 4 rings, and leaving the magic missing their team captain. And if he went to the magic anyways, the bull would have realized that their problems were a big man problem and not a missing superstar.
oh wow, I had no idea gravity existed......
At 8:30 we are shown a chart that indicates that NBA players are taller than 99.99% of men in the US. We are then told that this is equal to 1 in 1000. Isn't it 1 in 10,000?
Thank you appreciate you. “Look at the air, look at the hang time, look at the flying motion!!” I don’t quite recall who said this but I do remember hearing this about Michael Jordan. Also, personally saw a man from my hood hang in the air like he could control his weight it amazing how he did that
that was during the slam dunk contest when he did the sideways baseline dunk
🚨🚨🚨Height doesn’t matter. It is about not giving up🚨🚨🚨
Leave it up to Jimmy to dispel all these myths!! Always can count on him!!
Jimmy had always been one that cherry picks stats to feed his agenda. The fact that he calls everyone plumbers that played in the 90s or early is a clear sign that he has no respect to the legends that played the game before he watched the game. He makes content for lebron fanboys.
7:19 His age is improving every year. 😂
Lol
MJ dribbling in for that free throw dunk and not running it in like a RB is simply amazing. He actually jump at the line too. Man can fly a little
What you mean a little
That dunk was mid asf 😂
@@martymcfly8449 He's dunking it from 15ft out. who cares if its mid?
you do it first@@martymcfly8449
@@martymcfly8449lemme see u do it 💀
In Larry Bird's defense, the guy would literally shoot 3s with his left hand to screw with your head. Plus if you take his best years he'd move to the right on that graph.