QD: I did my first race ever in August. I skipped 5ks, 10ks, and went straight to a road ultra. I did a 12-hour race on a 3.75 mile paved loop around a local park. I did 12 laps (45 miles) in my first race and I plan on doing this race again next year but I am really hoping to do some 50 milers on trails in 2021.
I think it looks pretty decent. Your video shots running in the shoes are pretty awesome. I don't know how you can manage to do such smooth shots but whoever is filming it did a great job.
Hi Seth... loving the videos, by far my favourite running vlog! I run ultra distances, anything from 50 - 100 miles and I’m really considering this shoe for 2021. In the ultra game for us not elites it’s all about stability and comfort of the shoe, because unless you a machine like Jim Walmsley then my form starts to break down at the 70 ish mile mark and I need a shoe to get me to the line. Also a comfortable upper means less risk of blisters. Weight is important, but not top of my list. Keep up the amazing work.
@Kai Smithley thanks.. As Seth always says, he rates shoes on his running style and preference. I love his reviews but look at the shoes from what is most important to me. I’m a 3:00 marathon runner at best so having a shoe be 2 ounces lighter but loosing the structure, comfort and stability is not what I’m after. Me like most other average runners, I have a slightly weaker left leg and although I don’t need stability shoes, I can’t get on with the likes of an next % etc as my left knee would be shot after a 3 hour runs.
Well just like you have a dominant hand for writing etc you will find you also have a more dominant leg. Gym work, home workouts and resistance band work can help, but if your like most then you may be limited on time to fit in as much of the support work as you should. I had a treadmill test and noticed my left foot caves in (slightly) when I land. So I opt for shoes with a more stable base, but not all the way for a full stability shoe.
QD: ran my 1st 24 hour race September 19th/20th placed 2nd overall with 190 km on a 2.25km paved loop with a hill. I have qualified to run for the canadian national team for the 24 hour world championships in romania in 2021 as long as covid doesn't effect them. I wore the new balance beacon v2
QD: I have done a 100k on the road and 55 miles on a track. I honestly prefer ultras on smooth surfaces. An undulating trail with ruts and roots beats up my knees and ankles. On roads you can just zone out and go. If you zone out on a trail after a few hours you are likely to catch a toe and fall on your face.
I’ve been running ultra since 2005. I prefer racing long on road loops and especially the track. Timed events such as 6,12, 24, 48, 72, and 144 hour runs are races I’ve done and excelled at. Most common shoe I’ve seen at these races are in the Hoka line-up. Especially Bondi, and Clifton. Going that long you need shoes with cushion over pop unless you are Camille Heron. I co- direct a track ultra in Pennsylvania in May called Dawn 2 Dusk 2 Dawn Track Ultras. Distances are 50k, 12 hour and 24 hour. We get people from all over the US and Canada. Great event. If you want “Big Miles” a fun atmosphere and lots of support track Ultras are the best. Road Ultras with a 1 mile loop are great too. I got into using Hokas when I noticed at the US 24 hour National Championships in 2010 in Cleveland, Ohio that 16 of the top 20 finishers where all wearing Hokas. I switch over soon after that. Planning on running a track ultra next year and I have a 10 hour road /trail ultra this weekend.
QD: I ran the IAU 6hr Virtual Global Solidarity Run in August 2020 and did the first 50km on the road. Also, many of the timed ultras (24hr etc) are on the track. I believe the wr for 24hr of 303.5km by Yiannis Kouros in 1997 was on a track. I suspect most early ultras were on the road, not trails. The Comrades us an excellent example. As for your review of the CarbonX 2, CMEVA is not new, it stands for Compression Moulded EVA which is what virtually all modern running shoes have and has been around since at least the 1980s (my first running shoes with CMEVA was the Nike Terra TC.from around 1982 or 83). It might be a slightly different blend to what is in the first version, but altimately it's just spin. Eventually Hoka will come up with a PEDA based foam or similar, perhaps in the Rocket, but the reason the CarbonX 2 is not light enough is the foam. EVA, whatever label you give it is heavy, compared to the modern carbon plated racing shoe foams. It's also a very Hoka thing to build a narrow shoes. Not all of their shoes are narrow, but that seems to be how they roll generally. That's why I can't wear them.
QD: In September I competed in a 24 hour track. Asics Gel Nimbus 22. I completed the race, but I got injured: shin splints. In November I raced in a 12 hour road circuit. Hoka Clifton 7. I took my first podium! Third overall!
Thanks for the review. I ran 90 miles @ a 24HR event/party in Carbon v1 and I'm signed up for a 100 miler on the road this September. I'll be wearing the v2 shoes. Excited to get going.
I did my longest run in September, 64 k charity run in my local village (West of Ireland)..I hadn't planned on finishing it, the pace was slow and there was food and water stops, so I just kept going. Wore my Saucony Kinvara 11's with no issue (I love them shoes) Eat like a horse afterwards and drank plenty of Cider and Wine !! Great video's Seth, every morning must be like Christmas opening all them boxes !
QD: I did a 50k on a paved trail last year and plan a 40 miler this year for my 40th year on earth. I plan on running in either the Endorphin Speedor the Sketchers MaxRoad 4
Hey can i know how the carbon x2 held up for you? Just got mine! I really scared it gets ripped up and expose the plate meaning its done. I use it mostly on track but im curious your 350-400 miles is on what terrain
QD: I've done a couple time-limit virtual races this year, which means that you could theoretically do all of the miles on the road. One was 24 hours and one was 10 days. I got more than 200 miles in the 10 days, a lot of those miles in the Carbon X v1.
QD: I ran a 3:21 50k on the roads....my buddy had eggs and sausage that morning...so we ran conservatively for the first 24 miles...avg 6:30 per mile....at 24 miles I saw 5th place in front of me so ran 6:15, 6:10, 6:05, 6:00, 5:55, 5:50 in and took 3rd.....Trained for it like a marathon and loved it because you didn’t have to run marathon pace....much more relaxed.....but still the competitive juices kicked in when I could smell the barn....ranked me 11th in the US that year!
QD: I ran the NYC 60K in 2018. It is 9 laps around Central Park with around 250 participants. It was fun, I don’t believe I would go that long on the road again though, just a little too much pavement in one day.
Seth as a in between normal/wide footer I went for these and they are definitely snug at first, but do liven up and open up a good bit. It was the perfect level of snug for me. I actually sent back my Clifton 7’s and ordered another pair of these with the pro program
QD: I ran 100k on the road for charity a few months ago and will be racing 50 miles on the road in a few weeks. I used the Endorphin Speed for my 100k and I’m planning on the same shoe for my 50 miler. They just strike a nice balance between pop and cushion.
I really liked the original Carbon X, probably my favorite Hoka so far and the best fitting for my foot. However, I will probably not pick up v2 because I think the Rocket X will just be a better lighter option!
Seth...doing the Marine Corps 50K (road) this year and will be buying the Carbon X2..I am a huge Hoka fan (heel drop works for me) also like the Saucony Kinvara. Thank for the vid....
The first iteration of the Hoka Carbon X was unveiled in a 100k road time trial with Walmsley, Wardian and other Hoka athletes in Folsom, Ca. The result was Walmsley smashing the 50 mile record. Though this shoe isn't for me for that distance - it still attests to its attempt to be an ultra road racing shoe.
QD I did a 50 mile run on a treadmill this past April because the trail 100k I was training for was cancelled. I ran the whole thing in the Carbon X. I think I would lean towards the Endorphin Speed now though. My feet felt great and the ride is so smooth for my gait. Stoked for the Carbon X 2
I have done 6 hours on the track twice. Both times indoor. Best result 72.45km wearing the New Balance 1500. Next time I will be wearing a shoe with more cushioning... Feet and quads were fried.
Hoka seems to be feeling their way through pricing on carbon plated shoes. The Carbon Rocket came in at 160, the original Carbon X was 180, then the SPE jumped to 200, then the Rocket X AND the Carbon X 2 are both 180. Very interesting. I wonder if they plan on releasing another version of the Carbon Rocket and, if so, what that price will be. Thanks for the review SJD. Hope you're finding some time to rest with everything you have going on.
When you bent the outer sole did you realize that it always bent where the carbon plate ends? And inside that crease where the carbon plate ends feels weird because it just bends independent of where you foot would bend.
❓ What do you think of the poor mans questionmark? ;) no for real: did you ever have trouble with your calf muscles? tears/strains etc... and what would you recommend to prevent those?
I started having calf muscles strain when I turned 50....i have now had several friends have the same issue past 50. In researching I found that lack of zinc can be the cause. I started taking the plus 50 multiple vitamin that has 130+ daily zinc ......haven’t had any calf problems since.....about 10 years now.
Hi sorry this is a little late for this vlog but would you say this would be a better marathon shoe than the Nike Tempo next %? I ask as I have used the Tempo for a few marathons and they did feel very comfortable and fast, however I do like the Carbon X 2 and I can get a good deal right now on it. Thanks for the video and its a great channel, both my brother and I love it and really rate you.
I ran a 50K on road in Switzerland on the Carbon X but I did have to change the original laces for elastic ones because of its tight and non-elastic upper. Hoka shoes this year have better uppers and I particularly enjoy the C. Edge. The normal Clifton doesn't work for me in things over half marathon but I think it's the best daily trainer for new runners. The Rincon (and the Speedgoat if on trail) can do it all :P
Whats up bud, love your good energy, if you have to pick just one to train and race a marathon , corbon x2 or Mach 4, im more aboute comfort = faster and longer for me.Thanks
QD: I’m planing running a race called “pescado de Moctezuma (Moctezumas fish)“, it’s a relay race of 300+ km and you race from beach (sand), trail , pavement. And every participant has to run 60km minimum. What shoe would you pick Seth for racing this type of race?
I just don't get why you always think long run shoes should be cheap? If it's meant to get a lot of miles and mid-sole durability should it not be at the higher price point? For the consumer if the shoe has poor durability it should always be cheaper IMO. Like the first vaporflys were basically swindling customers out of money!
I'm planning on doing a track 24 hour race in 2022, I am already doing 4x100 mile ultras and 1x24hr race on a mountain next year so can't fit a track ultra in until then
Training for Black Beards Revenge 100 mile road Ultra March 2021. Still trying to figure out a road shoe that will go that distance . This Hoka may be the answer. Thanks for posting great videos.
This is poignant considering Killian's upcoming 24hr track ultra. It's hard to believe he's actually going to run in the phantasm. That's like running 24hrs in the kinvara or beacon. Very minimal. What shoe do you think he'll run in?
Good morning Seth! Watching your slow-mo running gate, do you think that the bulbous heel is doing anything? Hypothetically what would the result be if you took your hack saw and cut it off? To me it just looks like extra weight, unless like you say you are a heel striker. Thoughts?
QD: i have Run 16 ultramarathons on road and 5 of those were 24h events , 4 were 12h events and the last One was on Track on Barcelona iua event and its was the hardest, being on flat track for 12h has too many issues, the wind and the rotation changing 3 in 3 hours because i AM not a well balanced Runner and running anti clockwise had a toll on MT body, i was aiming for 120k but just reached 108k
I don’t think the Carbon x2 is looking to compete with the other marathon racing shoes, right? That’s what the rocket X is. It seems like something that’s built for people who aren’t looking to blaze the streets but stay comfortable during their first or second marathon.
Hey Seth, a while ago you received a few different pairs of track spikes. I was wondering if you are planning on testing them out soon during your turnover work? Thanks!
I bought these yesterday in the luminary green diff color it'll stand out but I got these for interval sprints on the treadmill as well as sprinting on the track and I'll be doin a 5k. Would these be good for all that I mentioned? I'm also buying the Clifton 8s for long distance jogging/running? Will that be good for that as well? Clifton r a lil more heavier so I wanted tobuse those for my everyday running in the street and save the carbon for races and sprinting like I said
QD: I did a 12 hour ultramarathon on a track back in 2017 in Paraguay and made 87,65km. Kilian Jornet will do a 24 hour track run this or next year in the new Salomon S/Lab Phantasm. GREETINGS FROM SALZBURG/AUSTRIA!!!
I’m not a heel striker I’m midsole are they worth buying as as what people say you get bounce back if you heel strike not heard anything about a mid foot sticker?
Did you test the exact same size at the Mach 4? (Sorry if you said this, didn't hear it if you did). Intrigued why the fit would be so different otherwise.
I love my original Carbon x... but i‘m looking forward to these new Bad Boys... i‘m also extremly sad that the Carbon x2 and also the mach 4 isn‘t available right now
QD: I did my first race ever in August. I skipped 5ks, 10ks, and went straight to a road ultra. I did a 12-hour race on a 3.75 mile paved loop around a local park. I did 12 laps (45 miles) in my first race and I plan on doing this race again next year but I am really hoping to do some 50 milers on trails in 2021.
Hey Seth, you can put the chapters timestamps in the video, in the timeline. Kofuzi does this, it's pretty handy
Mach 4
Carbon X 2
Rocket X
Killer running shoe trio. You have a light and fast daily trainer, plated long run shoe, and racing shoe.
I think it looks pretty decent. Your video shots running in the shoes are pretty awesome. I don't know how you can manage to do such smooth shots but whoever is filming it did a great job.
Rise and Shine ☀️
I’m ready for those marks
Seth have you chose the shoes for your upcoming half marathon?
@@wastelander1015 not yet
I'm an overweight runner, looking to invest on 1 shoes with great cushion to train & race marathon. Should I get Carbon X2 or Rocket X?
Hi Seth... loving the videos, by far my favourite running vlog! I run ultra distances, anything from 50 - 100 miles and I’m really considering this shoe for 2021. In the ultra game for us not elites it’s all about stability and comfort of the shoe, because unless you a machine like Jim Walmsley then my form starts to break down at the 70 ish mile mark and I need a shoe to get me to the line. Also a comfortable upper means less risk of blisters. Weight is important, but not top of my list. Keep up the amazing work.
@Kai Smithley thanks.. As Seth always says, he rates shoes on his running style and preference. I love his reviews but look at the shoes from what is most important to me. I’m a 3:00 marathon runner at best so having a shoe be 2 ounces lighter but loosing the structure, comfort and stability is not what I’m after. Me like most other average runners, I have a slightly weaker left leg and although I don’t need stability shoes, I can’t get on with the likes of an next % etc as my left knee would be shot after a 3 hour runs.
Well just like you have a dominant hand for writing etc you will find you also have a more dominant leg. Gym work, home workouts and resistance band work can help, but if your like most then you may be limited on time to fit in as much of the support work as you should. I had a treadmill test and noticed my left foot caves in (slightly) when I land. So I opt for shoes with a more stable base, but not all the way for a full stability shoe.
QD: ran my 1st 24 hour race September 19th/20th placed 2nd overall with 190 km on a 2.25km paved loop with a hill. I have qualified to run for the canadian national team for the 24 hour world championships in romania in 2021 as long as covid doesn't effect them. I wore the new balance beacon v2
Wow crazy you wore the beacon 2 and managed to do 24 hours in a row. That shoe starts to kill my feet after an hour and a half.
I have 2 pairs of the beacon v2 swapped after 20 hours for the other pair.
Best thing to watch right after school❤️
Thank you so much for watching!
Spot on after seeing the 100K Hoka challenge!
QD: I have done a 100k on the road and 55 miles on a track. I honestly prefer ultras on smooth surfaces. An undulating trail with ruts and roots beats up my knees and ankles. On roads you can just zone out and go. If you zone out on a trail after a few hours you are likely to catch a toe and fall on your face.
Saucony Endomorphin Speed is a stellar 50 K option so long as you keep up your pace so as not to lose the rockering effect
Very assessment Troy, thanks for chiming.
I’ve been running ultra since 2005. I prefer racing long on road loops and especially the track. Timed events such as 6,12, 24, 48, 72, and 144 hour runs are races I’ve done and excelled at. Most common shoe I’ve seen at these races are in the Hoka line-up. Especially Bondi, and Clifton. Going that long you need shoes with cushion over pop unless you are Camille Heron. I co- direct a track ultra in Pennsylvania in May called Dawn 2 Dusk 2 Dawn Track Ultras. Distances are 50k, 12 hour and 24 hour. We get people from all over the US and Canada. Great event. If you want “Big Miles” a fun atmosphere and lots of support track Ultras are the best. Road Ultras with a 1 mile loop are great too. I got into using Hokas when I noticed at the US 24 hour National Championships in 2010 in Cleveland, Ohio that 16 of the top 20 finishers where all wearing Hokas. I switch over soon after that. Planning on running a track ultra next year and I have a 10 hour road /trail ultra this weekend.
QD: I ran the IAU 6hr Virtual Global Solidarity Run in August 2020 and did the first 50km on the road. Also, many of the timed ultras (24hr etc) are on the track. I believe the wr for 24hr of 303.5km by Yiannis Kouros in 1997 was on a track. I suspect most early ultras were on the road, not trails. The Comrades us an excellent example.
As for your review of the CarbonX 2, CMEVA is not new, it stands for Compression Moulded EVA which is what virtually all modern running shoes have and has been around since at least the 1980s (my first running shoes with CMEVA was the Nike Terra TC.from around 1982 or 83). It might be a slightly different blend to what is in the first version, but altimately it's just spin. Eventually Hoka will come up with a PEDA based foam or similar, perhaps in the Rocket, but the reason the CarbonX 2 is not light enough is the foam. EVA, whatever label you give it is heavy, compared to the modern carbon plated racing shoe foams. It's also a very Hoka thing to build a narrow shoes. Not all of their shoes are narrow, but that seems to be how they roll generally. That's why I can't wear them.
Ultra running on a track sounds like a lot of fun.
QD: In September I competed in a 24 hour track. Asics Gel Nimbus 22. I completed the race, but I got injured: shin splints. In November I raced in a 12 hour road circuit. Hoka Clifton 7. I took my first podium! Third overall!
Hello Everyone, time for some motivation vlog while getting ready for my run
Volta do Lago Caixa 2019 in Brasília - Brazil!
I did the 60k, with plans to do the 100K in 2021!
Very well done review....Enjoyed it! Looking forward to the Speeds...will suit me well. Snazzy looking shoe- x duce
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Thanks for the review. I ran 90 miles @ a 24HR event/party in Carbon v1 and I'm signed up for a 100 miler on the road this September. I'll be wearing the v2 shoes. Excited to get going.
I did my longest run in September, 64 k charity run in my local village (West of Ireland)..I hadn't planned on finishing it, the pace was slow and there was food and water stops, so I just kept going.
Wore my Saucony Kinvara 11's with no issue (I love them shoes)
Eat like a horse afterwards and drank plenty of Cider and Wine !!
Great video's Seth, every morning must be like Christmas opening all them boxes !
I have 400 miles in the original Carbon X and can’t wait to try these.
Excellent, good to hear about your durability in the original Carbon X.
QD: I did a 50k on a paved trail last year and plan a 40 miler this year for my 40th year on earth. I plan on running in either the Endorphin Speedor the Sketchers MaxRoad 4
I’ll take the extra once for the 400+ mile durability. I’ve gone through 3 pairs of the 1st addition and I’ve averaged 350-400 per pair!
Hey can i know how the carbon x2 held up for you? Just got mine! I really scared it gets ripped up and expose the plate meaning its done. I use it mostly on track but im curious your 350-400 miles is on what terrain
Just bought a pair really cheap! Considering it as a long run shoe.
QD: I've done a couple time-limit virtual races this year, which means that you could theoretically do all of the miles on the road. One was 24 hours and one was 10 days. I got more than 200 miles in the 10 days, a lot of those miles in the Carbon X v1.
That was my choice too, Endorphin Speed is the beast!!!!!!❤️❤️❤️👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Really like the look of this shoe 👍
QD: I ran a 3:21 50k on the roads....my buddy had eggs and sausage that morning...so we ran conservatively for the first 24 miles...avg 6:30 per mile....at 24 miles I saw 5th place in front of me so ran 6:15, 6:10, 6:05, 6:00, 5:55, 5:50 in and took 3rd.....Trained for it like a marathon and loved it because you didn’t have to run marathon pace....much more relaxed.....but still the competitive juices kicked in when I could smell the barn....ranked me 11th in the US that year!
QD: I ran the NYC 60K in 2018. It is 9 laps around Central Park with around 250 participants. It was fun, I don’t believe I would go that long on the road again though, just a little too much pavement in one day.
I'm thinking about running an ultra race series here in Austria. At the moment I'm still stuck in injury avoiding, but who knows...
Did Seth ever finish running in the Rocket 🚀 X? Everyone else had been super positive about it. Would love to see his final thoughts on it.
Jamison Michael did an amazing review on the Rocket X
Yeah a great shoe and agree with you, I would like to see the 50 mile review too from Seth.
Late to the review but very thankful I saw this after snagging a pair at a ridiculously low price. Going to use it as a long run shoe! Thanks.
Seth as a in between normal/wide footer I went for these and they are definitely snug at first, but do liven up and open up a good bit. It was the perfect level of snug for me. I actually sent back my Clifton 7’s and ordered another pair of these with the pro program
QD: I ran 100k on the road for charity a few months ago and will be racing 50 miles on the road in a few weeks. I used the Endorphin Speed for my 100k and I’m planning on the same shoe for my 50 miler. They just strike a nice balance between pop and cushion.
I really liked the original Carbon X, probably my favorite Hoka so far and the best fitting for my foot. However, I will probably not pick up v2 because I think the Rocket X will just be a better lighter option!
Thanks Michael for sharing.
Why did you autotune your voice ? ( Clearly hear it when he draws out words )
Or is it an underwater effect ?
Good morning everyone
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@@SethJamesDeMoor no Tuesdays with true love today?
It's actually with the flair in the heel was done in 1980's with Avia and Adidas.
Hi Seth are you saying it’s better than the Saucny endorphin speed .....?
Another cracking review
Keep up the good work 😀👍
Seth...doing the Marine Corps 50K (road) this year and will be buying the Carbon X2..I am a huge Hoka fan (heel drop works for me) also like the Saucony Kinvara. Thank for the vid....
Great review Seth If you had one shoe to pick for a road marathon, which one would be? Onward and Upward!!
Marathon Matrix publishing next week, but because you asked, and you're a member, which I truly appreciate, here is my answer: Nike Next%
The first iteration of the Hoka Carbon X was unveiled in a 100k road time trial with Walmsley, Wardian and other Hoka athletes in Folsom, Ca. The result was Walmsley smashing the 50 mile record. Though this shoe isn't for me for that distance - it still attests to its attempt to be an ultra road racing shoe.
QD I did a 50 mile run on a treadmill this past April because the trail 100k I was training for was cancelled. I ran the whole thing in the Carbon X. I think I would lean towards the Endorphin Speed now though. My feet felt great and the ride is so smooth for my gait. Stoked for the Carbon X 2
I have done 6 hours on the track twice. Both times indoor. Best result 72.45km wearing the New Balance 1500. Next time I will be wearing a shoe with more cushioning... Feet and quads were fried.
Morning DGR
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Hoka seems to be feeling their way through pricing on carbon plated shoes. The Carbon Rocket came in at 160, the original Carbon X was 180, then the SPE jumped to 200, then the Rocket X AND the Carbon X 2 are both 180. Very interesting. I wonder if they plan on releasing another version of the Carbon Rocket and, if so, what that price will be. Thanks for the review SJD. Hope you're finding some time to rest with everything you have going on.
When you bent the outer sole did you realize that it always bent where the carbon plate ends? And inside that crease where the carbon plate ends feels weird because it just bends independent of where you foot would bend.
❓ What do you think of the poor mans questionmark? ;)
no for real: did you ever have trouble with your calf muscles? tears/strains etc... and what would you recommend to prevent those?
I started having calf muscles strain when I turned 50....i have now had several friends have the same issue past 50. In researching I found that lack of zinc can be the cause. I started taking the plus 50 multiple vitamin that has 130+ daily zinc ......haven’t had any calf problems since.....about 10 years now.
Hang ur heels off a step or use a slant board.
Hi sorry this is a little late for this vlog but would you say this would be a better marathon shoe than the Nike Tempo next %? I ask as I have used the Tempo for a few marathons and they did feel very comfortable and fast, however I do like the Carbon X 2 and I can get a good deal right now on it.
Thanks for the video and its a great channel, both my brother and I love it and really rate you.
I ran a 50K on road in Switzerland on the Carbon X but I did have to change the original laces for elastic ones because of its tight and non-elastic upper. Hoka shoes this year have better uppers and I particularly enjoy the C. Edge. The normal Clifton doesn't work for me in things over half marathon but I think it's the best daily trainer for new runners. The Rincon (and the Speedgoat if on trail) can do it all :P
Whats up bud, love your good energy, if you have to pick just one to train and race a marathon , corbon x2 or Mach 4, im more aboute comfort = faster and longer for me.Thanks
whens that carbon x 3 video coming!!!!!!! cant wait!
QD: I’m planing running a race called “pescado de Moctezuma (Moctezumas fish)“, it’s a relay race of 300+ km and you race from beach (sand), trail , pavement. And every participant has to run 60km minimum. What shoe would you pick Seth for racing this type of race?
That's a sweet t-shirt!
shoutout!
Went up to 12hrs on road 8-12 yrs ago than shoe market was bit different 😬no plans for the future really for ultras. But Hoka is coming back strong 👏
I just don't get why you always think long run shoes should be cheap? If it's meant to get a lot of miles and mid-sole durability should it not be at the higher price point? For the consumer if the shoe has poor durability it should always be cheaper IMO. Like the first vaporflys were basically swindling customers out of money!
I'm planning on doing a track 24 hour race in 2022, I am already doing 4x100 mile ultras and 1x24hr race on a mountain next year so can't fit a track ultra in until then
Wow Luke! This is exciting.
Seth adizero pro is now available around 100 dollars on the Black Friday sale . This is amazing
I wonder if more companies will incorporate the heel design that Hoka is incorporating. That’d be interesting to see 😂
Training for Black Beards Revenge 100 mile road Ultra March 2021. Still trying to figure out a road shoe that will go that distance . This Hoka may be the answer. Thanks for posting great videos.
in 2012 I did a self organized 56 miler for diabetes. It was all road. All hills.
Seth what do you think is the most over rated shoe of 2020?
Nike Tempo Next%
QOD: Training for the Dallas Marathon 50k next spring. Using the Carbon X rocket for my long run days. Planning to use Atreyu’s The Artist on race day
Great review, thanks!
This is poignant considering Killian's upcoming 24hr track ultra. It's hard to believe he's actually going to run in the phantasm. That's like running 24hrs in the kinvara or beacon. Very minimal. What shoe do you think he'll run in?
Very exciting indeed! The new Phantasm : ) perhaps
Have you ever run in the Sense shoes? They're basically soccer cleats in terms of cushioning and he seems fine running 100 milers in them.
Morning Seth, loving the
POPS! Thank you for the idea Duncan.
Good morning Seth! Watching your slow-mo running gate, do you think that the bulbous heel is doing anything? Hypothetically what would the result be if you took your hack saw and cut it off? To me it just looks like extra weight, unless like you say you are a heel striker. Thoughts?
so i just raced my first ultra chicago 50 miler and it was on the road last month and i used the carbon x the first one and it worked really well
QD: In March I hope to be able to run a 24 hours in the Italian championship again. Suggestions for the ideal shoe?
QD: i have Run 16 ultramarathons on road and 5 of those were 24h events , 4 were 12h events and the last One was on Track on Barcelona iua event and its was the hardest, being on flat track for 12h has too many issues, the wind and the rotation changing 3 in 3 hours because i AM not a well balanced Runner and running anti clockwise had a toll on MT body, i was aiming for 120k but just reached 108k
When you bend it to test the rigidity of the plate 🤮🤢😢
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Seth James DeMoor 😂 it’s interesting to see you just gave me ptsd from that one shoe
👟👟 it survived :shoe:
Seth James DeMoor btw your shirts are my favorite shirts now definitely a conversation starter
QOTD: 100km del Passatore, probably the best 100k on the road. Completed in 2015, planning to do that in 2021 (finger crossed)
I've had that pinky toe issue in every Hoka I've tried (2 Bondis and 3 Cliftons).
Get their wide fits instead
this is the best to watch now
I don’t think the Carbon x2 is looking to compete with the other marathon racing shoes, right? That’s what the rocket X is. It seems like something that’s built for people who aren’t looking to blaze the streets but stay comfortable during their first or second marathon.
I’ve done a 50 mile race in the Carbon X. But all my Ultras in 2021 will be on the trail.
What would be your picks for the most durable shoes on the road?
Hey Seth, a while ago you received a few different pairs of track spikes. I was wondering if you are planning on testing them out soon during your turnover work? Thanks!
I bought these yesterday in the luminary green diff color it'll stand out but I got these for interval sprints on the treadmill as well as sprinting on the track and I'll be doin a 5k. Would these be good for all that I mentioned? I'm also buying the Clifton 8s for long distance jogging/running? Will that be good for that as well? Clifton r a lil more heavier so I wanted tobuse those for my everyday running in the street and save the carbon for races and sprinting like I said
Thank you. 👍
Maybe thinking about a counterweight? Something to balance out the weight of the heel through the foot strike.
QD: I did a 12 hour ultramarathon on a track back in 2017 in Paraguay and made 87,65km. Kilian Jornet will do a 24 hour track run this or next year in the new Salomon S/Lab Phantasm. GREETINGS FROM SALZBURG/AUSTRIA!!!
I like the shirt! Where’d you get it?
How do you compare saucony endorphine pro vs carbon x? Which shoe you believe has better durability and performance
Hey Seth, could you do a comparison between the Carbon X 2 and the Carbon Rocket? I'd be curious to hear your opinion on them
why you don't rip off those carbon x 2's sole like you did with some of the carbon plated shoes??😆
You requesting that
@Kai Smithley hmm hmm.. hoka really made some anti-hulk sole huh? Lols🤣🤣
@@SethJamesDeMoor Just asking hahaha. It's okay if you don't want to🌚✨
I’m not a heel striker I’m midsole are they worth buying as as what people say you get bounce back if you heel strike not heard anything about a mid foot sticker?
I’m an obese person I don’t run but I’m watching all of ur videos 😭
they recommend walk / jog technique
which would be better for an all around both training and race shoe for a marathon, hoka carbon x2 or endorphin pro?
Oooooo
Ok Seth.
Ima take your advice.
Next shoe on my list
Did you test the exact same size at the Mach 4? (Sorry if you said this, didn't hear it if you did). Intrigued why the fit would be so different otherwise.
What is that hoka shoe in the background of the shoedio, that is always there
Do you think the Brooks Hyperion Elite 2 or the Hoka Carbon X 2 is more stable?
Actually very similar I'd say, with maybe a slight lean toward the Brooks
Comrades x 2 (up /down run), in Mizuno wave rider
The 1985 shirt? Where can I get one?!
born in 1985? I forget where I got it.... sorry
Morning!!
I'm looking at a 160k road loop FKT in the Netherlands since all the races are cancelled.
Sir, Which one can be better for half marathon hoka carbon x2 or saucony endrophin pro 2? Waiting for your answer.
I'm a Saucony 9.5uk. Would Hoka X2 be the same size or would you have to go up half a size? Never wire Hokas before. Cheers
My first 50k was the Cowtown in Ft. Worth, Tx which is a road race.
I love my original Carbon x... but i‘m looking forward to these new Bad Boys... i‘m also extremly sad that the Carbon x2 and also the mach 4 isn‘t available right now