To be fair, when i do my fast runs i tend to do it on my own, and not in actual races. So it does help to have a reflector for me, since i only go for pr's when i feel in the mood to go for, and not when community races come up.
Just got the rocket X - im pretty satisfied, they could give it some more grip “My opinion”- running in the rain on wet contrete feels a little slippery
Would you happen to know why they glued the insoles? That’s so weird, never seen that happen in Hokas before. So I thried to take them out and then realised it’s not a good idea. Now they bunch up when shoe gets wet on my long sweaty runs.
So guys, I'm in trouble! I bought a pair of Pegasus 2 for my next Marathon, but... After 20km they hurt my toes because of the shallow toebox. I'm thinking to race in my Boston 8 which are heavier but super comfy... Should I consider these shoes? I'm aiming to finish in 3:45 (slow runner)
Bought these as they where cheap, ive the x'2s used them as my racing shoe and the X's as my training shoe....but tbh my pb for a 5k in the X2's was a 18:05 and the X'2 19:23.....there still a brilliant shoe to this day
Guys its just a guess but you are wearing a bit too big shoes if you have to pinch the laces so close. Also that can be the reason for the "extra room" in the shoe. For me this shoe seems like not a racer more like a tempo shoe, thats why got the reflectors at the back. Jeah for a training shoe its expensive, but everybody can make their own decision. What I dont like about Hoka is the drop, 5mm is just too flat for me.
@@paullooper1090 for me, the pull tab was always a Hoka thing - it was an oddity of the shoe that said it was a Hoka, no material or functional need for it - agreed - but was something uniquely Hoka.
@@Believeintherun They sponsor a number of triathletes, and these shoes are likely to be worn in a lot of ironman marathons. They don't seem to police it now, but it was a rule of IM races that shoes must have reflectors on them. So many are out running after sunset.
Rocket X, kind of pricy for a beginner imo. If I was a beginner, I'd go with the Rincon if I was racing 5k-10k. Then if you like it, add the Rocket X into rotation.
How is this "Rocket X" different from the "Evo jCarbon Rocket"? Is the EVO the most recent version? Hard to find this shoe. Good price for a carbon shoe.
So you’d say the durometer and feel is similar to carbon x and the NB shoe? I haven’t tried the NB but impressions are it’s fuel cell is bouncier than carbon x. I’m kinda confused. Was excited for this rocket x but now may stick with carbon x. Any advice?
For me (Robbe), the durometer feels on par with the Carbon X, just less aggressive rocker for sure. Definitely not soft/bouncier in the way of FuelCell. I think for Thomas, the overall ride reminds him of the RC Elite (I haven't run in the RC). Honestly, the best way to describe the Rocket is a lighter and faster Carbon X.
Guys can you help out with the shoe sizing, or give any shoe for reference sizing as I have never tried a hoka before I generally wear UK8 , only for few adidas adios 5,boston,solarboost I have to got for UK8.5 rest generally all my running shoes are UK 8 can you recommend or suggest a reference point
@@liamhemingway6598 thanks man for the reply but im talking about the path project he is wearing.i replayed it many times just to read what was written on his cap. haha :D
Well about the Rincon. I did a 500 mls test in my sample pair without any problems. There were small pieces flying from outsole after 100k but it doesn't matter because the shoe wasn't competing in the Miss World contest. I would say that it was "fast" for 300k and after that just a comfortable everyday trainer for easier paces. Upper was too cold for winter. So I finished the test by running on treadmill last 200 miles or so and even at the end it was a comfortable shoe for runs like 20k MLRs. If one cannot get more than 100 mls out of Rincons then he must have a terrible way of running that destroys shoes. Reminds me of a bulldozer.
@@Believeintherun okay. I understand what you mean but for slow paces Rincon is still fine when it's old compared to Vomero for example. I have 2 pairs of Vomero 14 and can feel a huge difference between them. Even the old pair looks brand new, there is no wear in outsole or anywhere but the midsole is completely dead. After 700k it's a torture to run in them. It's not hard but also not soft, just dead.
Hoka said its for shorter distance. So, I think they mean that rocket x for half and full marathon. Carbon X 1 and 2 for ultras. 😁
You’re right.
I mean, they did throw out a 50-mile race to launch the Carbon X, so you could be spot on.
Excellent review! I pre-ordered them. Can't wait to get them next month!
To be fair, when i do my fast runs i tend to do it on my own, and not in actual races. So it does help to have a reflector for me, since i only go for pr's when i feel in the mood to go for, and not when community races come up.
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Just got the rocket X - im pretty satisfied, they could give it some more grip “My opinion”- running in the rain on wet contrete feels a little slippery
Hi, how do they fit? TTS?
Ahh... The Rincon... Sad story on the 100miles, can't dispute that. But the love affair was great for as long as it lasts.
Amazing shoe for those first hundred
Ugh....I’m in the same relationship. Luckily mine seems a bit more positive...delicate but positive.
Would you happen to know why they glued the insoles? That’s so weird, never seen that happen in Hokas before. So I thried to take them out and then realised it’s not a good idea. Now they bunch up when shoe gets wet on my long sweaty runs.
Great review gents!
Going to try the Rocket X
1:55 "Most likely to be gusseted and tongued."
Wasn't appreciated enough. 😁
You get it
So guys, I'm in trouble!
I bought a pair of Pegasus 2 for my next Marathon, but...
After 20km they hurt my toes because of the shallow toebox.
I'm thinking to race in my Boston 8 which are heavier but super comfy...
Should I consider these shoes?
I'm aiming to finish in 3:45 (slow runner)
The 8 could work well. Try a couple practice runs at marathon pace and see what you think.
Try with clifton 7, you will enjoy in running
Bought these as they where cheap, ive the x'2s used them as my racing shoe and the X's as my training shoe....but tbh my pb for a 5k in the X2's was a 18:05 and the X'2 19:23.....there still a brilliant shoe to this day
Lol rob is always funny af
You're the reason I keep doing this
@@Believeintherun lol
I like to train tempo and long runs in my carbon shoes. I can appreciate the reflector.
Makes sense, this shoe can work well for tempo runs as well.
@@Believeintherun Hi, how do they fit? TTS?
Guys its just a guess but you are wearing a bit too big shoes if you have to pinch the laces so close. Also that can be the reason for the "extra room" in the shoe.
For me this shoe seems like not a racer more like a tempo shoe, thats why got the reflectors at the back. Jeah for a training shoe its expensive, but everybody can make their own decision.
What I dont like about Hoka is the drop, 5mm is just too flat for me.
Great review! But man “It really sticks to the Hoka look” 👀 Where is the pull tab!!! Damn it ! LOL 😆
Replaced by a reflector.
To me, pull-tabs are useful only for booty construction shoes... since one needs to stretch the upper to insert ones foot...
@@paullooper1090 for me, the pull tab was always a Hoka thing - it was an oddity of the shoe that said it was a Hoka, no material or functional need for it - agreed - but was something uniquely Hoka.
@@Believeintherun They sponsor a number of triathletes, and these shoes are likely to be worn in a lot of ironman marathons. They don't seem to police it now, but it was a rule of IM races that shoes must have reflectors on them. So many are out running after sunset.
When you've got 60lbs on Robbe and your Rincons still have life. . .
I like that orange jacket
Janji
Hi guys which is your choice for half and maratón racing between ENDORPHIN PRO AND HOKA ROCKET X? Thanks for your great review
It would depend on foot strike and if you like rockered midsoles.
Does it makes sense to wait for the carbon x2 before making a decision on a hoka carbon shoe?
If you're looking for a fast HOKA shoe, go for this. Review for the X 2 should be coming in the next couple weeks.
kinda makes me think carbon fiber plate rincon, and I wanna buy it now
If you like the Rincon you'll dig it.
best not so weird design of carbon plated shoes
Are these shoes good for a beginner only running 5 kilometer to 10 kilometer ? I run on Kinvaras now.
Rocket X, kind of pricy for a beginner imo. If I was a beginner, I'd go with the Rincon if I was racing 5k-10k. Then if you like it, add the Rocket X into rotation.
I have the Clifton 6 and the Arahi 4, both size 9. Would you say the Rocket X would me also size 9?
Yes
How many miles are these shoes built for? It's so hard to find that information. Thank you!
50 miles
How is this "Rocket X" different from the "Evo jCarbon Rocket"? Is the EVO the most recent version? Hard to find this shoe. Good price for a carbon shoe.
For starters, the EVO carbon rocket is a trash shoe, it was the first carbon attempt by HOKA and it was terrible
So you’d say the durometer and feel is similar to carbon x and the NB shoe? I haven’t tried the NB but impressions are it’s fuel cell is bouncier than carbon x. I’m kinda confused. Was excited for this rocket x but now may stick with carbon x. Any advice?
Carbon x 2 maybe?
For me (Robbe), the durometer feels on par with the Carbon X, just less aggressive rocker for sure. Definitely not soft/bouncier in the way of FuelCell. I think for Thomas, the overall ride reminds him of the RC Elite (I haven't run in the RC). Honestly, the best way to describe the Rocket is a lighter and faster Carbon X.
How is the grip when it comes to gravel/mix terrain?
Какой честный ресурс у этих кроссовок ?
I was told this shoe is a good shoe for people with feet and ankle problems.
Rincon only lasts 100 miles.
Crap, I just bought a pair yesterday.
Hey guys im trying to decide between this and the mach 4. Im coming from the tempo next%. Im only gonna have one shoe. Can you please help me?
How did you find the fit? True to size? I found the Clifton fit well but rincon fit small
True to size!
FIRST!!!!!....Version of the Rocket X
I noticed they don’t carry size 12.5? Any reason behind that?
🤷🏻♂️
Guys can you help out with the shoe sizing, or give any shoe for reference sizing as I have never tried a hoka before I generally wear UK8 , only for few adidas adios 5,boston,solarboost I have to got for UK8.5 rest generally all my running shoes are UK 8 can you recommend or suggest a reference point
My adidas running shoes size mostly is UK 7, only My adizero tempo 9 is UK 7.5.
I go tts (UK 7) with rocket x and feels very good
How many miles can we get out of these approximately ?
More than you’d want. At this point it is older technology
@@Believeintherun Useless answer, and at 60% off there's no such thing as older technology...
i like your cap what brand is that?
ceilo running hats
@@liamhemingway6598 thanks man for the reply but im talking about the path project he is wearing.i replayed it many times just to read what was written on his cap. haha :D
Path projects. Favorite hat, wear it all the time. Their other clothes are top-notch too.
whats your durabillity predicton?
I’d guess you’d get at least 250 miles out of them before the cushioning starts to flatten out.
Well about the Rincon. I did a 500 mls test in my sample pair without any problems. There were small pieces flying from outsole after 100k but it doesn't matter because the shoe wasn't competing in the Miss World contest. I would say that it was "fast" for 300k and after that just a comfortable everyday trainer for easier paces. Upper was too cold for winter. So I finished the test by running on treadmill last 200 miles or so and even at the end it was a comfortable shoe for runs like 20k MLRs. If one cannot get more than 100 mls out of Rincons then he must have a terrible way of running that destroys shoes. Reminds me of a bulldozer.
We actually say the shoe can last. But the great out of the box feel dies in about 100 miles, after that, it isn’t as fun to run in.
@@Believeintherun okay. I understand what you mean but for slow paces Rincon is still fine when it's old compared to Vomero for example. I have 2 pairs of Vomero 14 and can feel a huge difference between them. Even the old pair looks brand new, there is no wear in outsole or anywhere but the midsole is completely dead. After 700k it's a torture to run in them. It's not hard but also not soft, just dead.
Drop?
5 mm
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