I ran a 1:33.04 half marathon this morning! A PR by 15 minutes. I've been watching your channel for a while and enjoy your content. Gets me out the door and motivated. Thanks!
Hands down you make one of the best running related/review videos on youtube. Camera, music, editing it's all spot on. And reviews are interesting and honest. Keep up the good work. Greetings from Croatia.
I lived in Chicago for ten years and now I live in Central California. I miss running in this type of weather and I miss the city of Chicago. I used to find running on the lakefront trail a bit monotonous but I didn’t know how good I had it! Great shots.
Agree on the need for a softer/squishy midsole material to go with the carbon plate. Awesome first impression man! Amazing effort by Jim and the hoka guys the other day, 12 seconds 😔🤙🏼
I would love to see Michael trying those ridiculous Hoka Nine Ten. I think this heel is Hokas new design language which they boldly introduced with Nine Ten
Thank you, for me this is the best and most appropriate review of the carbon x 2. I totally agree with your comments also about the shoes feeling long. Nice work
I doubt he'd want to be sponsored--he has to be able to say his full honest opinions and review gear across different brands. If he were to be sponsored by HOKA his content would be constrained.
Excellent review. I think this shoes is designed specifically for the long milers, not much change of CarbonX1 though, but still in the stif category trainers. Pleased to watch the 100km race yesterday and looking forward to get back for running again 🏃🏽
I saw a lot of these at the Hoka challenge yesterday - good to get hear your view on them Ko! I think I’ll wait until either the Adios Pro are back in stock or the next Next% comes along. Thanks for another great review 😊
Thanks for this Michael. Great info to know, but with my wide foot it will likely never fit me. Nice to see you back running in beautiful Chicago, not that the Iowa countryside was not beautiful also. But you make me so nervous running along the edge of that wall and on the frozen ice of the lake! I took a fall last weekend on a slippery rock on an otherwise bare dirt trail and landed hard on my right thumb pad. It was black and blue for a week but thankfully no broken bones! Be careful out there!
I got the Saucony speed.at first I thought that a got an issue with the right foot cause while I hit the ground my foot tend coming inside and it was very uncomfortable!after 30 miles it was OK.For me the midsole of Saucony is very soft,believe carbon x2 is better for road running
I picked up a once-used pair for $55 today. I only ran a 5k in them and found the carbon plate and midsole foam not as springy and forgiving as the RC Elite 2 or Saucony Pro 2. I think they'll be great for city distance running because how good they corner.
That ending clip gets me so nervous. The forest here is all icy as well and it's all fun until you catch too much momentum and can't brake on the ice. 😅🥶
Someone else mentioned that. And I did notice a difference reviewing the footage. I’m not intentionally doing anything different. It could possibly be the rocker really kicking the back of my foot up, but it’s just a guess
After getting, and seriously hating the X1, I was ready to write this off, but I LOVE the FuelCell TC and the comparison to that is super positive in my book. Would you say that its like a TC with a rocker? And I hear that its softer than the X1, but how would it compare to the TC? Would love to see a comparison of the 2 actually :)
You'd think with technology these days that there would be some way that manufactures could reduce the stack height of shoes. The stack height of Hoka One One are one the things that keep me from purchasing this shoe. It just raises the center of gravity way too high for taller runners... and if you're on a curving route there comes time where confidence comes into question. I look forward to the time where they just about 1/2 the height of the shoe with better tech in materials to accomplish what their shooting for with the shoe.
As someone with both of these I agree, the endorphin speed is also a faster shoe! The one caveat is for anything > 15 miles I’d choose the x2. Just personal preference I think the hoka midsole more forgiving for longer distance
I’ve got the Endo speed 2. I tried the marathon distance in it. After 26 KM i changed my shoes and ran the remaining distance in my Asics nimbus. Honestly, i love the speed i get from m Endorphins but stability wise, I wouldnt take them past 21.1 km again!
Interesting review, I bought the Rocket X to replace my New Balance TCs but although the Rocket X is a good shoe, and I feel you can lock-in a decent rhythm they just don’t feel as fast as say the Vapourfly. I think the TC was better. I’m interested in the Carbon X2 as more a long distance trainer, that keeps the legs feeling good.
The Carbon X2 is feeling better than the TC for my running style but early days for the X2. The X2 is a lot more stable than the TC and I would predict getting more mileage out of the X2 as well. The positioning of the Carbon plate suits me more than in the TC.
Hi kofuzi.. Which 1 do u prefer 1. Hoka x 2 vs 2. Endorphin pro? I'm looking for weekend, long run carbon shoe.. I hve speed for daily training & next% for competition/race..
Kofuzi , Which Hoka brand shoe model feels exactly like the cushion and support in the men’s Hoka carbon X2 ? Thanks for your valued feedback. Listening from chicago burbs
I had the original CarbonX and in Hoka in general I had to go with 8.5 whereas I wear a 9 in most running shoes (Brooks, Saucony and others) and only rarely 9.5 in some NB and Nike shoes that run short IMO. I also size down to 8.5 in adidas (Boston eg) as I find they run long as well. If I were to get the CX2, I’d definitely order my smaller size based on their being even longer than the original CX.
wich shoes do you recomand for an ultramarathon race (140 mile) Carbon x or Carbon x2 , because the carbon x2 is more expensive than Carbon X (50 USD)? thank you !
Do you know if the Mach 4 is wider in the forefoot than the Carbon X2? I tried the X2 on and found it super narrow and the Mach 4 is supposed to be the plateless daily trainer version of it. Thanks
Thank you so much for the review. I am a three month old beginner runner. Just ran the half 1:53 with Zoom Fly Flyknit. I am thinking about buying an Endorphin speed to perform better. Any recommendations? Or keep running with zoom fly.
If you enjoy running in zoomfly series, then you’re highly recommended to snag a pair of vaporfly next percent. You won’t be disappointed, other than a hefty cost you’re willing to cough up. It’s about $100 bucks more than zoomfly at retail.
@@wonkydonkey7899 Hi Austin, Thank you for your comments. That’s will be the one I really want to buy. I am thinking about buying it at the end of this year when I am done sub 4. As I mentioned, i just started running three months ago and just ran the half. I hope I can be 3-5 sec faster per 1km with that. Have a great week.
Just some feedback for reviewing. I have very wide feet and I am a US 13. This pretty much eliminates 90% of all trendy shoes. Hoka, Nike, Adidas, etc are all write offs for me. When you talk about fit, it would be great if you explicitly mention whether the shoe is suitable for people with wide feet because it sucks so hard to watch a bunch of reviews, get excited about a product, and then realise it’s not for you.
Do you think it could be the right shoe in terms of comfort for extra distances, 100K and beyond, even for those who don't run at Jim Walmsley's pace. In other words, do you think they could be comfortable even at 9:40 to 10:30 mins / miles in a 24 hour race (about 200Km)?
Do you think most Hokas have more width in the toe box? I've been struggling with some narrow toe boxes in other brands but with the rest of my foot being narrow I don't really want to buy a wide, just want a roomier toe box.
I would generally say that hoka trainers are pretty generous (compared to nike or Adidas, for example), but hoka racing shoes have been very very snug. that started to change last year with the rocket x and also the Rincon. and as far as racing shoes go in general, this one is one of the roomier toe boxes
Is this going to be the year of weird heels (the midsole)? We have this butt/tongue like thing, the invincible heel part from the bottom is weirdly square, and then there is the ultraboost 21 :D Also, love the kung fu panda there!
This intro put a smile on my face. I don't want to say this.. I really don't want to but, if you keep doing these intro you'll be passing Jamison. I hate to say it. You're getting better and better. You actually doing these shoes a huge justice with the close-up b-roles. I don't need it but man I want this shoe now!
Looking for a carbon plated marathon shoe - not a fast marathon pace by any means, and am considering this. I ran in the Bondi for Chicago this year but it wrecked my feet with blisters at the longer miles and I lost a few toenails indicative of a size issue - I use a 9.5, for Hoka's, do people think that I should size down a 1/2 size?
I have the original Carbon X. I'm frustrated. My left shoe has become uneven. In the front area of the outer sole, the inner part has worn a lot more than the outer part because of my foot strike. So the outer sole area of the front area is a lot higher than the inner sole area of the outer sole. These shoes only have 83 miles on them.
Great first impression, Ko! It was heartbreaking watching Jim missing the WR by 11 seconds. How did the shoe feel while cornering at your MP? How was the grip on wet surface?
It was fine for wet. No concerns there. I did encounter some ice and snow, and that did not feel so great Cornering was really good. The height wasn’t an issue
I only use a custom insole if a shoe gives me problems, and in that rare scenario, I will very clearly indicate the reasons for the change and the results of the change.
I’ve run extensively in X1, and one thing I don’t understand about the X2 design is how moving the plate closer to the ground helps them be more forgiving? I would think moving the plate more to the middle of the padding would make them feel better a la Vaporfly.
overall, I think the outsole grip is very close to what was on version 1, if you have any experience in those. I did get them on some snowy grass, very well manicured dirt road type surfaces, and some matted down snow. it's not great. unless the dirt roads you're thinking of are very smooth, I'd probably continue waiting.
Asics has the Noosa Tri. I believe when the ASICS endorsement was going to expire, ASICS did not have any carbon plate shoes and that was a handicap for him. He run in a Metaracer prototype, but it seems he didn’t like it.
I think your review told everything needed to be known about this shoe. I think the explanation for the carbon plate to work better in this version than in the former one has to do with the midsole material. The carbon plate in any shoe needs a surface softer than itself, so it will work like a kind of trampolim, so to speak. If it hits a very hard surface it will not work. This is physics and I believe this was the greatest problem with the first version: it was hard beyond the measure to allow the plat to work in it’s full potential.
I had the original and while it was a smooth, comfortable shoe, I agree that it was on the deader side with its “plain” EVA compared to what v.2 sounds like in Kofuzi’s very detailed description/comparison. Also, in the end the original was narrow in the toebox and started creating callouses on the medial side of my feet at the big toe metatarsals. And I have a medium/narrow foot. V2 seems to have a more generous toebox in terms of width from what he is saying. Martha
We’re all waiting for its release Nike has delayed time and again. The latest rumored launch date is set on February 10th. I’m quite sure there’ll be a review on zoomx invincible run as soon as Kofuzi gets a pair.
this doesn't have anything to do with track practice, but in college, my roommate and I really enjoyed playing racquetball. and afterwards, we would end each session with a round of Ultimate Racquetball, a game we invented where we stand on each side of the court and try to hit each other with the ball. it was like dodgeball and racquetball combined.
I think I'm missing or misinterpreting the tone of this comment, as it reads as if you are literally wondering if Kung Fu Panda is wearing a carbon plated shoe in the movie
@@kofuzi I was told to never answer a question with a question but to humor you I will answer. Yes, I'm wondering why the frame is in the video and my assumption that you must have put it in there because he was wearing the shoe you are covering in the video? Otherwise, what's it doing in there?
I ran the 10k portion of my triathlon in them. they were great, but they would not be my first choice. all the preceding assumes we were talking about racing and not every day training.
Everyone’s feet are different, so the space at the toe area is vary. You need the space because your feet swell during the run. The last thing you want is having your toes cramped. That said, the version 2 does run a little longer. Some people go half a size down. I’d still advise that you stay true to size.
@@wonkydonkey7899 hey thanks, yes I know you need space at the toe box but as these run long I wondered how much was there to feel like sizing down might be the option.
@@thehossdog1 the carbon x2 is widely available currently. It won’t hurt to pay your local sporting good stores a visit that carry Hoka one one, and try them on to get a perfect fit. You can always order two sizes online and return the one that fits too long to your liking. I hope this helps. P.s if I told you it left a thumb’s space in my toe box, it wouldn’t necessarily mean you’d have the same space as mine depending on the length of our toes, which are different from person to person.
Me too. Every change that was described in the one review I saw is a change that will make it a better shoe for me than past iterations. While the stats of the past Kinvaras have been right up my alley, on my foot they never felt snug enough in the midfoot, eg, compared to my shoes in that category. I’m excited to hear your review, Mike.
I ran a 1:33.04 half marathon this morning! A PR by 15 minutes. I've been watching your channel for a while and enjoy your content. Gets me out the door and motivated. Thanks!
Great work!
Great job! That’s a huge improvement!
ay nice
Awesome result!Aiming 1:30 next time!
what the.. 15 minutes just by changing shoes? or was that because you've had been training hard??
Hands down you make one of the best running related/review videos on youtube. Camera, music, editing it's all spot on. And reviews are interesting and honest. Keep up the good work. Greetings from Croatia.
Oh gosh how I missed those beautiful running shots of the Chicago waterfront!
Pair arrived today. Loving em. Downhills are insane. Overall just nice to have a carbon-plate shoe that's so chill and versatile.
Great video review. Good to see the improvements on carbon X to the X2, really appealing red colorway, Well done Hoka !
I lived in Chicago for ten years and now I live in Central California. I miss running in this type of weather and I miss the city of Chicago. I used to find running on the lakefront trail a bit monotonous but I didn’t know how good I had it! Great shots.
Great review!! The only channel that was able to explain what this shoe feels like. Fantastic metaphor.
Nice! I’ve just ordered mine. Can’t wait to take them for a spin!! If they’re good enough for Jim Walmsley I guess I could have a go with them 😂
Like PF Flyers in the 50s they’ll have you “flying” past your friends 😆👍🏃♂️🏃♂️
Agree on the need for a softer/squishy midsole material to go with the carbon plate. Awesome first impression man! Amazing effort by Jim and the hoka guys the other day, 12 seconds 😔🤙🏼
No need for a heel, it never touched the ground.
Mine didn’t at all
I would love to see Michael trying those ridiculous Hoka Nine Ten. I think this heel is Hokas new design language which they boldly introduced with Nine Ten
Ya but imagine how much you would love it flying downhill. Tunnel Marathon shoe of choice?
It depends on ur foot strike
As a heel striker, I need that heel flare lol
Thank you, for me this is the best and most appropriate review of the carbon x 2. I totally agree with your comments also about the shoes feeling long. Nice work
Got an ad for the shoe during the Kofuzi shoe review.
Just get this man a formal sponsorship.
I doubt he'd want to be sponsored--he has to be able to say his full honest opinions and review gear across different brands. If he were to be sponsored by HOKA his content would be constrained.
I'd love to be sponsored by something I don't review, like Audible or a pizzeria
@@kofuzi Pizza for sure!
Excellent review. I think this shoes is designed specifically for the long milers, not much change of CarbonX1 though, but still in the stif category trainers. Pleased to watch the 100km race yesterday and looking forward to get back for running again 🏃🏽
I saw a lot of these at the Hoka challenge yesterday - good to get hear your view on them Ko! I think I’ll wait until either the Adios Pro are back in stock or the next Next% comes along. Thanks for another great review 😊
Good to see you in the chat at the hoka stream!
Thanks for this Michael. Great info to know, but with my wide foot it will likely never fit me.
Nice to see you back running in beautiful Chicago, not that the Iowa countryside was not beautiful also. But you make me so nervous running along the edge of that wall and on the frozen ice of the lake! I took a fall last weekend on a slippery rock on an otherwise bare dirt trail and landed hard on my right thumb pad. It was black and blue for a week but thankfully no broken bones! Be careful out there!
Though winters do force you to question why you're there, Chicago is so damn beautiful!
everybody else saw that kungfu panda screenshot right?
Oh good I'm not going crazy..
The environment is beautiful,
Nice camera angle mate.
Great review! Thanks for sharing!!!
Mike, would you use this over the Saucony Speed?
I got the Saucony speed.at first I thought that a got an issue with the right foot cause while I hit the ground my foot tend coming inside and it was very uncomfortable!after 30 miles it was OK.For me the midsole of Saucony is very soft,believe carbon x2 is better for road running
Some epic running footage there!
Awesome video, loves Hokas uppers!
Loved the music at the start!
I picked up a once-used pair for $55 today. I only ran a 5k in them and found the carbon plate and midsole foam not as springy and forgiving as the RC Elite 2 or Saucony Pro 2. I think they'll be great for city distance running because how good they corner.
That’s a great bargain
Reminds me of the novablast 3. That thing is huge! More back end rubber than any runner needs. Maybe speed walkers?
Someday...Hoka will join the foam race.
Loving the Intro!
That ending clip gets me so nervous. The forest here is all icy as well and it's all fun until you catch too much momentum and can't brake on the ice. 😅🥶
Did you change your running form? I never seen you running so much on your forefoot.
Someone else mentioned that. And I did notice a difference reviewing the footage. I’m not intentionally doing anything different. It could possibly be the rocker really kicking the back of my foot up, but it’s just a guess
Hello, I would like to know if this shoe is durable. I only tried the Rincon before and the outsole worn out very quickly
can't wait for the Mach 4 review :D
What about Carbon X2 vs Endorphin Speed?
Agree, I'd like to see that, maybe against the endorphin Pro too
I was gonna request for that.
Yep - this review made me hesitate switching to the Speeds after I retire my current Carbon X
The speeds are the best shoes on the market period. The pros are great too. I cute 24 mins off my full marathon pb in the pros.
After getting, and seriously hating the X1, I was ready to write this off, but I LOVE the FuelCell TC and the comparison to that is super positive in my book. Would you say that its like a TC with a rocker? And I hear that its softer than the X1, but how would it compare to the TC? Would love to see a comparison of the 2 actually :)
You'd think with technology these days that there would be some way that manufactures could reduce the stack height of shoes. The stack height of Hoka One One are one the things that keep me from purchasing this shoe. It just raises the center of gravity way too high for taller runners... and if you're on a curving route there comes time where confidence comes into question. I look forward to the time where they just about 1/2 the height of the shoe with better tech in materials to accomplish what their shooting for with the shoe.
The X2 is very stable compared to my New balance Rebel & TC. Dont let the clunky look of the shoe put you off
Personally, I would buy the Endorphin Speed vs this shoe. Speed $20 less, lighter and more versatile IMO.
As someone with both of these I agree, the endorphin speed is also a faster shoe! The one caveat is for anything > 15 miles I’d choose the x2. Just personal preference I think the hoka midsole more forgiving for longer distance
I’ve got the Endo speed 2. I tried the marathon distance in it. After 26 KM i changed my shoes and ran the remaining distance in my Asics nimbus.
Honestly, i love the speed i get from m Endorphins but stability wise, I wouldnt take them past 21.1 km again!
👀 those shoes look very comfortable.
Hi guys.. I bought the CARBON X2 and tried them for running but they are HARD like concrete or worse !!!!!!
Intro music was a bit much homie, we're just running not an Avenger saving the world. Other than that awesome video man haha.
#unnecessarilyepic always
My ankles were cowering in fear during the ice run bit at the end. 😳
Interesting review, I bought the Rocket X to replace my New Balance TCs but although the Rocket X is a good shoe, and I feel you can lock-in a decent rhythm they just don’t feel as fast as say the Vapourfly. I think the TC was better. I’m interested in the Carbon X2 as more a long distance trainer, that keeps the legs feeling good.
The Carbon X2 is feeling better than the TC for my running style but early days for the X2. The X2 is a lot more stable than the TC and I would predict getting more mileage out of the X2 as well. The positioning of the Carbon plate suits me more than in the TC.
Great first impressions! I just bought a pair, and I’m curious to see how they compare to my Rocket X
It'll be a good comparison. I'll be doing some similar testing as well!
Man.. this shoe look great. Surely will buy it.
Hi kofuzi.. Which 1 do u prefer 1. Hoka x 2 vs 2. Endorphin pro? I'm looking for weekend, long run carbon shoe.. I hve speed for daily training & next% for competition/race..
Kofuzi ,
Which Hoka brand shoe model feels exactly like the cushion and support in the men’s Hoka carbon X2 ?
Thanks for your valued feedback. Listening from chicago burbs
carbon X3
Those are some BEAUTIFUL shoes
Love mine...agree with a few comments that this shoe seems to run long. I’m a 12 in every other running shoe out there but an 11.5 fit me well here.
I've heard of some people needing to size down. you're not alone.
I had the original CarbonX and in Hoka in general I had to go with 8.5 whereas I wear a 9 in most running shoes (Brooks, Saucony and others) and only rarely 9.5 in some NB and Nike shoes that run short IMO. I also size down to 8.5 in adidas (Boston eg) as I find they run long as well. If I were to get the CX2, I’d definitely order my smaller size based on their being even longer than the original CX.
wich shoes do you recomand for an ultramarathon race (140 mile) Carbon x or Carbon x2 , because the carbon x2 is more expensive than Carbon X (50 USD)? thank you !
They do look very nice!
Would you recommend these shoes for club 3k or 5k time trials? Or racing between the 4 mile distance and the 10k?
to borrow a phrase from medicine, I would say there's no contraindications.
but at those distances, I'd look at the Carbon Rocket from Hoka.
I thought I was watching a trailer for a movie for a min 😂 🔥
Do you know if the Mach 4 is wider in the forefoot than the Carbon X2? I tried the X2 on and found it super narrow and the Mach 4 is supposed to be the plateless daily trainer version of it. Thanks
Thank you so much for the review.
I am a three month old beginner runner. Just ran the half 1:53 with Zoom Fly Flyknit. I am thinking about buying an Endorphin speed to perform better.
Any recommendations?
Or keep running with zoom fly.
If you enjoy running in zoomfly series, then you’re highly recommended to snag a pair of vaporfly next percent. You won’t be disappointed, other than a hefty cost you’re willing to cough up. It’s about $100 bucks more than zoomfly at retail.
@@wonkydonkey7899
Hi Austin,
Thank you for your comments.
That’s will be the one I really want to buy.
I am thinking about buying it at the end of this year when I am done sub 4.
As I mentioned, i just started running three months ago and just ran the half.
I hope I can be 3-5 sec faster per 1km with that.
Have a great week.
Thank you!
Hi, Kofuzi! Is this good for wide foot runners?
For me, it is the perfect training workhorse for long runs and easy days. For speed work I prefer a direct shoe, something like the rincon.
Just some feedback for reviewing. I have very wide feet and I am a US 13. This pretty much eliminates 90% of all trendy shoes. Hoka, Nike, Adidas, etc are all write offs for me. When you talk about fit, it would be great if you explicitly mention whether the shoe is suitable for people with wide feet because it sucks so hard to watch a bunch of reviews, get excited about a product, and then realise it’s not for you.
Do you think it could be the right shoe in terms of comfort for extra distances, 100K and beyond, even for those who don't run at Jim Walmsley's pace. In other words, do you think they could be comfortable even at 9:40 to 10:30 mins / miles in a 24 hour race (about 200Km)?
Good review as usual, the next one should be invincible from nike
Ko, you think this would be a good shoe for a 24H/100M attempt on mixed light trail and pavement course?
Do you think most Hokas have more width in the toe box? I've been struggling with some narrow toe boxes in other brands but with the rest of my foot being narrow I don't really want to buy a wide, just want a roomier toe box.
I would generally say that hoka trainers are pretty generous (compared to nike or Adidas, for example), but hoka racing shoes have been very very snug. that started to change last year with the rocket x and also the Rincon.
and as far as racing shoes go in general, this one is one of the roomier toe boxes
I love hoka. But for carbon plate shoe, im confused. Vaporfly next% 2 or carbon X 2 ?
Is this going to be the year of weird heels (the midsole)? We have this butt/tongue like thing, the invincible heel part from the bottom is weirdly square, and then there is the ultraboost 21 :D
Also, love the kung fu panda there!
There comes a time you have to get used to those oddly shaped flare heel counters. They’re there for a reason.
Thanks for this good review!
the epic opening music got me scrambling where to buy these shoes locally
This intro put a smile on my face. I don't want to say this.. I really don't want to but, if you keep doing these intro you'll be passing Jamison. I hate to say it. You're getting better and better. You actually doing these shoes a huge justice with the close-up b-roles. I don't need it but man I want this shoe now!
I’m glad you enjoy the b roll. It’s my favorite part
Looking for a carbon plated marathon shoe - not a fast marathon pace by any means, and am considering this. I ran in the Bondi for Chicago this year but it wrecked my feet with blisters at the longer miles and I lost a few toenails indicative of a size issue - I use a 9.5, for Hoka's, do people think that I should size down a 1/2 size?
looking to get a carbon plated shoe as my daily training shoe and race shoe. training for a marathon. would these or endorphin pro's be better suited?
love the shot put reference
I have the original Carbon X. I'm frustrated. My left shoe has become uneven. In the front area of the outer sole, the inner part has worn a lot more than the outer part because of my foot strike. So the outer sole area of the front area is a lot higher than the inner sole area of the outer sole. These shoes only have 83 miles on them.
How’s the fit compare with clifton 7 and rincon 2? I find the clifton significantly narrower than the rincon.
Really? That’s the inverse of how I found those shoes
The toe box of the clifton feels narrower for me compared to rincon 2.
Great first impression, Ko! It was heartbreaking watching Jim missing the WR by 11 seconds. How did the shoe feel while cornering at your MP? How was the grip on wet surface?
It was fine for wet. No concerns there. I did encounter some ice and snow, and that did not feel so great
Cornering was really good. The height wasn’t an issue
@@kofuzi Thanks, Mike! Will give them a try next month.
Running shoe uppers always seem to tight for my feet and it’s frustrating because i don’t have a wide foot:/
Do you use your personal insoles or do you use the insoles coming with the shoes on every review?
I only use a custom insole if a shoe gives me problems, and in that rare scenario,
I will very clearly indicate the reasons for the change and the results of the change.
I’ve run extensively in X1, and one thing I don’t understand about the X2 design is how moving the plate closer to the ground helps them be more forgiving? I would think moving the plate more to the middle of the padding would make them feel better a la Vaporfly.
one thing I believe it does it change the ratio of CM EVA to rubberized EVA. more of the softer stuff. less of the denser stuff.
Please use the metric as well, for all of us around the world
Maybe put some effort and check it for yourself, he's giving us a lot for free already. Peace
I’m waiting for mine should have them by Tuesday I hope I didn’t make a mistake
How do you think they’d do on dirt roads? Eager for the Mach 4 but tempted by these in the meantime since my local running store already has them.
overall, I think the outsole grip is very close to what was on version 1, if you have any experience in those. I did get them on some snowy grass, very well manicured dirt road type surfaces, and some matted down snow. it's not great. unless the dirt roads you're thinking of are very smooth, I'd probably continue waiting.
@@kofuzi Thanks! That’s helpful to know. It’s or miss on the dirt roads I’m thinking of depending on how long since the last road grater visit.
Kinda weird that Jan Frodeno is now running with Hoka even when ASICS is now releasing a “triathlon shoe”
Asics has the Noosa Tri. I believe when the ASICS endorsement was going to expire, ASICS did not have any carbon plate shoes and that was a handicap for him. He run in a Metaracer prototype, but it seems he didn’t like it.
How to compare this shoes to carbon rocket 2? I'd like to buy 1 off this shoe's but it's hard to decide which one.
What socks do you reach for on a cold day??
I just bought the Endorphin Speeds, should I have bought this one instead? 🤔🤔
Thats a good question!. I like a shoe that has a toe box shaped as the human foot! 😆
Not necessarily. I still love the Endorphin Speed.
@@kofuzi I am more heel to midfoot striking than you -- do you think the weird back would be good for heel strikers?
I think your review told everything needed to be known about this shoe. I think the explanation for the carbon plate to work better in this version than in the former one has to do with the midsole material. The carbon plate in any shoe needs a surface softer than itself, so it will work like a kind of trampolim, so to speak. If it hits a very hard surface it will not work. This is physics and I believe this was the greatest problem with the first version: it was hard beyond the measure to allow the plat to work in it’s full potential.
Did you even try the first shoe?
@@kerry_runs Yes, a have both.
I had the original and while it was a smooth, comfortable shoe, I agree that it was on the deader side with its “plain” EVA compared to what v.2 sounds like in Kofuzi’s very detailed description/comparison. Also, in the end the original was narrow in the toebox and started creating callouses on the medial side of my feet at the big toe metatarsals. And I have a medium/narrow foot. V2 seems to have a more generous toebox in terms of width from what he is saying. Martha
will there be a review for Nike Invincible? Super confused about this one with infinity
We’re all waiting for its release Nike has delayed time and again. The latest rumored launch date is set on February 10th. I’m quite sure there’ll be a review on zoomx invincible run as soon as Kofuzi gets a pair.
I’m guessing you had some pretty interesting track practices growing up if you are talking about catching shot puts 😀
this doesn't have anything to do with track practice, but in college, my roommate and I really enjoyed playing racquetball. and afterwards, we would end each session with a round of Ultimate Racquetball, a game we invented where we stand on each side of the court and try to hit each other with the ball. it was like dodgeball and racquetball combined.
Coming soon: rocket x v carbon x2?
In a couple weeks
Yes, it's a butt chin.
Why is there a frame from kung fu panda 2 at 6:23? Is he wearing the x2?
I think I'm missing or misinterpreting the tone of this comment, as it reads as if you are literally wondering if Kung Fu Panda is wearing a carbon plated shoe in the movie
@@kofuzi I was told to never answer a question with a question but to humor you I will answer. Yes, I'm wondering why the frame is in the video and my assumption that you must have put it in there because he was wearing the shoe you are covering in the video? Otherwise, what's it doing in there?
I Would love to know your opinion on a shoe combo for training for a marathon. The daily trainer, the tempo, long run then racer ?
Carbon x2 is a shoe you can depend on those activities.
Clifton, Hyperion Tempo, Carbon X2, Adios Pro
@@kofuzi I have the carbon X2 and Hyperion tempos written down plus Saucony speed and NB 1080.
Have y ou done videos on "speed shoes"? W/ Carbon...I know the Sacony Endorphin's are good but the colour ways...BlaaHHH!! Little too fruity for me...
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intriguing
Some parts of the video, the laces seem really long? Thoughts?
Laces are long, but not goofy long like the v1. I suppose that could be correction 4.
Heeey. Can we use it as an every day training shoe? I'm running 10k every day and I want to go further. Thank you.
So would you highly recommend this shoe for a 10k like 1-10?
I ran the 10k portion of my triathlon in them. they were great, but they would not be my first choice.
all the preceding assumes we were talking about racing and not every day training.
Stunning views and music. Still hoping for sub zero video v.2021...
If you saw off the superfluous heel how much weight will that shave off?
You can give it a try and see for yourself.
How much space did you end up having at the front of the toe box given you thought the shoe ran long?
Everyone’s feet are different, so the space at the toe area is vary. You need the space because your feet swell during the run. The last thing you want is having your toes cramped. That said, the version 2 does run a little longer. Some people go half a size down. I’d still advise that you stay true to size.
@@wonkydonkey7899 hey thanks, yes I know you need space at the toe box but as these run long I wondered how much was there to feel like sizing down might be the option.
@@thehossdog1 the carbon x2 is widely available currently. It won’t hurt to pay your local sporting good stores a visit that carry Hoka one one, and try them on to get a perfect fit. You can always order two sizes online and return the one that fits too long to your liking. I hope this helps.
P.s if I told you it left a thumb’s space in my toe box, it wouldn’t necessarily mean you’d have the same space as mine depending on the length of our toes, which are different from person to person.
@@wonkydonkey7899 absolutely . Much appreciated d
may i respectfully ask? what is the mask your using for running? i wanna try that myself
I believe I had on a buff brand neck gaiter
@@kofuzi thank you Sir. i appric8 it and keep on running
IDK I might buy these😏 I'm still stuck on the New Balance 1080 IDK can it get better than that disappointment hurts 😔
@kofuzi are you going to review the Kinvara 12?
yes. super excited about that one.
@@kofuzi awesome! 👍🏼
Me too. Every change that was described in the one review I saw is a change that will make it a better shoe for me than past iterations. While the stats of the past Kinvaras have been right up my alley, on my foot they never felt snug enough in the midfoot, eg, compared to my shoes in that category. I’m excited to hear your review, Mike.
So Carbon X3 another attempt on the 100km WR 🤔😩
The mental toughness exhibited was just incredible. For me, even the thought of an x3 event is paralyzing