Best Laptop CPU 2023? Ryzen 9 7945HX vs Intel i9-13980HX

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    13980HX vs 7945HX Timestamps:
    0:00 Best Laptop CPU in 2023?
    0:09 CPU Spec Differences
    0:44 Laptops Tested
    1:20 Power Scaling (Performance at Different TDP)
    1:58 Cinebench R23
    2:32 Temperatures
    2:59 Power Draw
    3:07 Performance Per Watt (Efficiency)
    3:18 Clock Speeds
    3:24 Blender, V-Ray & Corona Renderer
    3:42 Adobe Photoshop
    3:54 Adobe Premiere
    4:11 Davinci Resolve
    4:18 Handbrake Video Transcode
    4:30 Encryption & Decryption
    4:36 Compression & Decompression
    4:48 Linux Kernel Compilation
    5:04 LLVM Compilation
    5:13 MATLAB & Microsoft Office
    5:20 Geekbench 6
    5:35 Average Difference in all Apps - 65W TDP
    6:04 Average Difference in all Apps - 130W TDP
    6:47 Gaming - 25 Games at 1080p, 1440p & 4K
    7:08 Cyberpunk 2077
    7:25 Far Cry 6
    7:46 Microsoft Flight Simulator
    7:59 Shadow of the Tomb Raider
    8:16 Dead Space
    8:29 Spider-Man
    8:40 The Witcher 3 - Ray Tracing
    8:57 Total War: WARHAMMER III
    9:06 Hogwarts Legacy
    9:15 Dying Light 2
    9:24 15 More Games Tested!
    9:53 1080p Average
    10:29 1440p Average
    10:46 4K Average
    11:08 25 Game Average
    11:40 PCIe Bandwidth Difference
    12:08 iGPU Game Comparison
    12:48 Battery Life
    13:10 Price Difference & Laptop Deals
    14:15 Who Wins? AMD or Intel?
    14:58 Still Want More Performance? Check This!
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  • @JarrodsTech
    @JarrodsTech  ปีที่แล้ว +88

    Update: The full review of the ASUS Scar 17 with 7945HX is up! Get all the details next: th-cam.com/video/TjvQ1ZezOXY/w-d-xo.html

    • @lsp6032
      @lsp6032 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hyping for the review, since EOFY is happening soon in Australia, so massive sales are coming soon

    • @OldManBryan
      @OldManBryan ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey Jarrod, would you be able to get a laptop with a 7745HX in it and compare it with the 7945HX in single core heavy games and benchmarks? I play alot of game / VR games that utilize single core heavily so the 3.6 vs 2.9 base clock has me concerned that getting the top end will gimp my personal experience. Problem is alot of companies force you to get the high end if you want a high end graphics card which sucks. EG Alienware.

    • @florinmatusea
      @florinmatusea ปีที่แล้ว

      Any chances you will also review the regular Strix G 17/18 or how it's called this year.
      I'm curious how it compares to mine from last year.

    • @lsp6032
      @lsp6032 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@florinmatusea The difference between them is mostly different GPU, with overseas version of g17 and g18 only having up to 4070 while scar 17 and 18 starts at 4080

    • @Bass-xg3tt
      @Bass-xg3tt ปีที่แล้ว

      what do you think of this configuration for this laptop? legion pro 5 2023 - ryzen 9 7945HX - RTX4070 - 1TB - 32GB - screen 240 hertz 500 nits - for the price of 1896.56 US Dollar

  • @rudrakshpathak5834
    @rudrakshpathak5834 ปีที่แล้ว +700

    Good to see AMD giving a tough competition to Intel. With Apple pressuring Intel with it's M series, Intel will be pressed to find a better performing processor thermally. Good for the consumer.

    • @bionicseaserpent
      @bionicseaserpent ปีที่แล้ว +56

      Apple has to watch for AMD not intel.

    • @muhammadtausif7195
      @muhammadtausif7195 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Not good for wallet though

    • @abdullahnaeem7275
      @abdullahnaeem7275 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      when it come to laptop my brother always had a preference to AMD seems to be a good reason for it.

    • @DragonOfTheMortalKombat
      @DragonOfTheMortalKombat ปีที่แล้ว +39

      @@muhammadtausif7195 How is more competition by having 3 CPU vendors not good for wallet ?

    • @randy89555
      @randy89555 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      ​​@@abdullahnaeem7275eems your brother is just a fanboy, like me 😂

  • @attilad.8142
    @attilad.8142 ปีที่แล้ว +143

    The last 1-2 years have been really great for mobile CPUs. I'm really excited to see how the next few years will shape up.

    • @Samdevay
      @Samdevay ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What's best laptop between/under 2500-2600 USD?

    • @Samdevay
      @Samdevay ปีที่แล้ว +2

      WHat's best laptop around ( 2500USD-2600USD) 1.5-1.8 lac for working professional
      Screen Size 17.3 or 18
      Data Science and AI graphics
      Computer modelling and networking
      Virtualization??

    • @onoman110
      @onoman110 ปีที่แล้ว

      It up to you it actully is the better one the one like

    • @gwanime4929
      @gwanime4929 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Samdevay get Asus ROG strix g16 with the nebula display. it should be around 2500USD, you get 4070, 32gb ram ddr5, nebula display mini LED 1600p, 100% rgb 100% DCI-3, 3 fan, best laptop cooling technology at the moment. and best core i9-13980hx

    • @gwanime4929
      @gwanime4929 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Samdevay basically you get best everything in the market right now, best screen display, best CPU best ram, best cooling system but only 4070 gpu because if higher than that with 1600p Nebula display in asus it will overheat your laptop unnecessarily.

  • @saurabhkumar3054
    @saurabhkumar3054 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    Hey Jarrod, please make a video comparing the ryzen 5 and the i5 too. Majority of the people are planning to buy midrange laptops with those processors.

    • @randy89555
      @randy89555 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      You're right. I hope r5 can beat i5 in single core 🙏 while also giving better battery life

    • @Risa222
      @Risa222 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      i7 and ryzen 7 would be good too

    • @AstroTwist
      @AstroTwist ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@randy89555 No Bro This year will be different❤❤❤
      In single core intel will easily beat AMD ❤❤❤
      And because of higher single core Clock in AMD so Battery life will be also Degrade
      And another think clock speed can't decide the single core speed but yeh higher clock speed will definitely decide battery backup
      Because if any company build a processor core for higher clock speed then that core can't use for lower clock speed
      Thats why intel use P+ E Core Architecture for Efficiency
      In battery power mode your laptop will use E core for more battery life.

    • @sonicboy678
      @sonicboy678 ปีที่แล้ว

      You'll need to be far more specific.

    • @JarrodsTech
      @JarrodsTech  ปีที่แล้ว +24

      If I ever get any 😅

  • @DeathA19
    @DeathA19 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    Awesome video as always, no annoying music, straight top tier analysis and comparison, good job

  • @mattdhargett
    @mattdhargett ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Thank you for including C++ build times! I’d love to see the LLVM Linux build complemented with a windows/Visual Studio build, like a Chromium Windows build.

  • @RealLifeTech187
    @RealLifeTech187 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Hey love the analysis you do and that's great as always 👍 *BUT* you often switched around the position of the i9 and R9 in the different sections so viewers always have to check which one is on top on which graph. It would be better if one of them is always on top and the other always bottom.

    • @hektor420.
      @hektor420. ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Or change colour of one

  • @Raintiger88
    @Raintiger88 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    The work you put into your comparisons is quit amazing. It's not something that's lost on most of us. Thank you for all the work you do!

  • @Eleganttf2
    @Eleganttf2 ปีที่แล้ว +269

    Love it when Intel and AMD are competitive like this on the CPU side... on the GPU side tho its far grimmer for this generation especially, both AMD and Nvidia did a massive flop for price to performance especially when the price hike is so big.

    • @bogganalseryd2324
      @bogganalseryd2324 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Though amd has integrated rdna3 that blows away anything Intel has

    • @abdullahnaeem7275
      @abdullahnaeem7275 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@bogganalseryd2324 ohhh yeah rog ally seems to be benefitting from it the most.

    • @chrisbullock6477
      @chrisbullock6477 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You have to look at overall cost and performance you're getting. the good old Intel/Nvidia combo of laptops are always sure to be extremely expensive. And the Nvidia Laptop GPU's from 80 series to 90 series never deliver what they hype up to be...that's been proven. Why I love the AMD Advantage laptops. Perfect balance of power and efficiency within a cohesive ecosystem

    • @bogganalseryd2324
      @bogganalseryd2324 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@abdullahnaeem7275 I agree

    • @TabalugaDragon
      @TabalugaDragon ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yeah, it's especially funny to see desktop buyers complain about prices of the 4070 when its laptop equivalent(4080m) costs like $2500

  • @warslayr7341
    @warslayr7341 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Thanks Jarrod ,for all your hard work. Really appreciate it

  • @yurymleh
    @yurymleh ปีที่แล้ว +19

    13:06 Worse battery life should be attributed to the chiplet architecture of the CPU and not the iGPU. It takes vastly more power to constantly go off dies though substrate to send data between the CCDs and the IOD in contrast to monolithic 7040 series (and all the ones before it) and intel chips.

  • @mediocreape
    @mediocreape ปีที่แล้ว +3

    thank you for putting this together, your work is appriciated.

  • @KaoruSugimura
    @KaoruSugimura ปีที่แล้ว +18

    "For those who dare"
    ...to not have an honored warranty

    • @sihamhamda47
      @sihamhamda47 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Bruh, hope the motherboard problem doesn't spread into their AMD laptop lineup (as the Ryzen 9 7945HX is basically a 7950X desktop but with cutted down TDP)

    • @Eleganttf2
      @Eleganttf2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sihamhamda47 All good

    • @KaoruSugimura
      @KaoruSugimura ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Eleganttf2
      Considering the temps in this video I'd sooner bet it isn't. That AMD chip was running much hotter than the Intel and that was while pulling less power. Definitely something going on there.

  • @Guitar_Dude09
    @Guitar_Dude09 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    What a right moment for this video to release, the M18 was offering both high end configs but ended up getting Intel since it was cheaper oddly enough & I guess i made the right choice since the performance difference in games is negligible (I play at 1080p anyways so went for the 480hz option ) all I care about is cooling & maintaining its max speeds now, thanks for the video glad I don’t have to cancel my order lol

    • @jacedragon
      @jacedragon 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      how are you enjoying it? and why do you prefer to game in 1080p instead of 1440p on the m18? i keep going back and forth as i was gonna use AMD for the CPU and the 7900m GPU but it requires me to get the FHD screen and not the UHD

    • @Guitar_Dude09
      @Guitar_Dude09 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jacedragon I enjoy it a lot, IMO FHD is where it’s at for high refresh rate gaming & I love high FPS. It really depends on what you want, I went with the 4090 config but I hear the 7900m is in between 4070 & 4080. & on an 18 inch screen 1200p is fine for me of course QHD will look crispier but I don’t care much about res if Im being honest. I went for the 4090 for the best performance possible & the 13980HX since the test shows it was doing better at 1090p

  • @ItsMeProday83
    @ItsMeProday83 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Respect for all effort here Jarrod, great comparrison!

  • @Belsen85
    @Belsen85 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Jarrod, thank you very much for improving the "Professional applications" Section in the review: I must say that more and more engineering companies and such start using gaming laptops instead of "Professional" laptop with "professional" video cards (like RTX T1000, RTX A4000 and so on) -- the price premium for "professional" became insane lately, not reasoning the gains.
    If you could add any 3D CAD applications (SolidWorks, CATIA, Fire Pro) and FE software (CalculiX is free, for example) that would be great!

  • @Hubwood
    @Hubwood ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for you hard work once more!

  • @ZenithX2000
    @ZenithX2000 ปีที่แล้ว +175

    The gaming results where the AMD chip is faster in 1440p and 4k are due to the chip using less energy at lower usage, allowing the GPU to use more of the available TDP, allowing better FPS.

    • @IvanConor
      @IvanConor ปีที่แล้ว +8

      yes, I have same thing.

    • @DragonOfTheMortalKombat
      @DragonOfTheMortalKombat ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Yeah I was thinking it's funny how the CPU difference mattered more at higher resolutions 🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @chrisbullock6477
      @chrisbullock6477 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Sounds smart to me.

    • @eric131313
      @eric131313 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Dude couldn't make connection despite making his living out of this comparisons 😂😂

    • @achaffer1237
      @achaffer1237 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Didn’t he have the cpus power limited in those tests though?

  • @InterstateRaziTV
    @InterstateRaziTV ปีที่แล้ว +47

    This is probably the most informative channel about laptops. Excellent Videos Jarrod!

    • @JarrodsTech
      @JarrodsTech  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Thanks!

    • @InterstateRaziTV
      @InterstateRaziTV ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JarrodsTech Np! Can't wait to see more computer reviews.

    • @Samdevay
      @Samdevay ปีที่แล้ว

      What's best laptop between/under 2500-2600 USD?

    • @InterstateRaziTV
      @InterstateRaziTV ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Samdevay Go for an Alienware. Amazing Build Quality!

    • @Samdevay
      @Samdevay ปีที่แล้ว

      WHat's best laptop around ( 2500USD-2600USD) 1.5-1.8 lac for working professional
      Screen Size 17.3 or 18
      Data Science and AI graphics
      Computer modelling and networking
      Virtualization???

  • @B1u35ky
    @B1u35ky ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The Intel has higher L2 cache while AMD has higher L3

  • @lrmcatspaw1
    @lrmcatspaw1 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Quite interesting data.
    I find it especially interesting how Intel and AMD are trading blows instead of having a clear lead for one side or the other.
    EDIT: In gaming.

    • @Samdevay
      @Samdevay ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What's best laptop between/under 2500-2600 USD?

    • @Samdevay
      @Samdevay ปีที่แล้ว +1

      WHat's best laptop around ( 2500USD-2600USD) 1.5-1.8 lac for working professional
      Screen Size 17.3 or 18
      Data Science and AI graphics
      Computer modelling and networking
      Virtualization??

    • @Blackstar-ti4py
      @Blackstar-ti4py 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Part of the circus thats why 😂

  • @RelentlessSavageryGaming
    @RelentlessSavageryGaming 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Phenomenal video per usual and much appreciated! In the process of upgrading in the next few days. Been bouncing between the Scar 16,17,18. I wish I had somewhere local to see them in person but unfortunately do not.

  • @milanpaudel9624
    @milanpaudel9624 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Man imagine being able to afford one of these.

    • @RTCSAW
      @RTCSAW ปีที่แล้ว +5

      6k for a laptop... dreams bro

    • @greebj
      @greebj ปีที่แล้ว

      there are cheaper, better options than Asuss imo. $4K AUD for a Legion 7 Pro 13900HX/4080 is about the best ... I mean least worst value...... and $5k for L7P with 4090, or the Tongfang (XMG Neo 23 / Mech17 GP / Aftershock Manta etc).

    • @Freestyle80
      @Freestyle80 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Go get a job instead of complaining about how you can't afford anything and starting a pity party under every tech video.

    • @kingvamppp
      @kingvamppp 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😂😂😂@@Freestyle80

    • @TechieTard
      @TechieTard 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      My friend, I make 6 figures, and 6K for a laptop is extreme! I would never in 1000000 years bite that bullet.

  • @mahfudzk
    @mahfudzk ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The chiplets design's idle power inefficiency is still plaguing right there😫
    power efficiency when being used is excellent, still doing pretty good against competitor at the same power level. But when it comes to idling/light task it hits where it hurts for mobile usage.

  • @marioweinberger9478
    @marioweinberger9478 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great comparison, thank you! Would it also be possible to include a game like Anno 1800 in future comparisons? Since this game really benefits from fast CPUs and especially Cache, it would be great to see the difference in the processors performance.

  • @rajandeep9242
    @rajandeep9242 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for this video jarrod

  • @50H3i1
    @50H3i1 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I think the adantage in higher resolutions might be the efficiency of 7945HX letting the GPU use more of the TDP budget

  • @PendiemMV
    @PendiemMV 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks information brother 🙏🏻😊

  • @julfy_god
    @julfy_god ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thanks, really great video!

  • @Vj-mi7fi
    @Vj-mi7fi ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You should have tested intel’s 150W performance.
    So that we could know that the power difference matters or not

  • @alun1038
    @alun1038 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    AMD winning in gaming performance but sadly sacrificing efficiency on battery kinda makes sense for these big desktop replacements

    • @DeepteshLovesTECH
      @DeepteshLovesTECH ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It's by design of their desktop chiplet architecture. It has an always active seperate I/O die.
      Dragon range is their desktop chips.

    • @defnotatroll
      @defnotatroll ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@DeepteshLovesTECH ELI5?

    • @greebj
      @greebj ปีที่แล้ว +5

      they don't sacrifice efficiency under load though, it's absolutely the opposite.
      Which might make a difference in a few years in a laptop with a total board power limit when the CPU is hammered in a game using a full 175W on a 4080 or 4090. In other words, something like a CPU limit of 75W will get more work done by a 7945HX than it will by a 139x0 HX.

  • @TabalugaDragon
    @TabalugaDragon ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thanks for another excellent comparison, Jarrod!
    You think you could make a review of an HX i7 model+4090m?
    The 1% lows due to too many cores on the i9 is terrible. Imagine buying a top end gaming laptop and get poor framerate stability just because you chose a top end CPU

    • @vmafarah9473
      @vmafarah9473 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      what to do? can we disable e cores?

    • @TabalugaDragon
      @TabalugaDragon 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@vmafarah9473 depends on a laptop I guess

  • @BostonFenian
    @BostonFenian ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I'm trying to decide between these two laptops right now and want to thank you for such a detailed, informative, and concise video. My current gaming laptop has an intel CPU but for most of my life I've preferred AMD, and, thanks to your excellent comparative review and AMD's friendlier price point, I think I'll be returning to my AMD roots. Thanks again!

    • @elderly_horse
      @elderly_horse 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I am also trying to choose, I have already reviewed 20 videos that you have chosen

    • @sfeffeefeffe-bn6rp
      @sfeffeefeffe-bn6rp 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      R9 намного лучше. Бери его.

    • @elderly_horse
      @elderly_horse 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sfeffeefeffe-bn6rp я уже выбрал.

    • @Al-Mutassim
      @Al-Mutassim 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@elderly_horsesatisfait ?

  • @alexcaragea6049
    @alexcaragea6049 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very detailed. Awesome work

  • @juan5h
    @juan5h ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video!

  • @poemontyperacer
    @poemontyperacer ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thanks for your work jarrod!

  • @user-xt6my8kx6e
    @user-xt6my8kx6e 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Again, great video
    Would love to see budget cpu comparison too!

  • @chaitanyapahl
    @chaitanyapahl ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Damn Jarrod ur videos are great keep it up 😎

  • @reaper7910
    @reaper7910 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I'm a bit surprised to see a cpu comparison and the good ol csgo isn't there. I mean, the thing runs on a potato but it would have been nice to see which cpu runs it better. I hope when csgo gets updated to cs2 or the cs2 beta becomes available, Jarrod'd include them in a test or something
    It's really annoying that in the US, the Legion 7 with 7945hx won't be available. I have an intel laptop now and I'd like to give amd a try for once since at this point, you can't really go wrong with either

    • @randy89555
      @randy89555 ปีที่แล้ว

      Valve had to give the beta to Jarrod

    • @melon3210
      @melon3210 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I can tell you wich cpu would win in CSGo. Intel. Because that game is heavily Singlecore Performance dependant.

    • @cameronbosch1213
      @cameronbosch1213 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's generally not available outside of Asia. It isn't in the U.K. either for that matter.

  • @sasca854
    @sasca854 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just what I was looking for, thanks!

  • @sonicboy678
    @sonicboy678 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    It's worth noting that the Radeon 610(M) is on the I/O die and explicitly meant for extremely light tasks and especially GPU diagnostics.

    • @mikeb3172
      @mikeb3172 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      It's meant for youtube videos as well, & long battery life. I think Jarrod messed up that test.

    • @randxalthor
      @randxalthor ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Really interesting how poorly it did at TH-cam playback, considering that's half the reason it exists in the CPU.

    • @VideogamesAsArt
      @VideogamesAsArt ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @@randxalthor The iGPU didn't do poorly at youtube playback, battery life is unrelated to performance. The issue with battery life is with chiplets. Chiplets are much less efficient than monolithic dies, and it's a sacrifice that had to be made in order to achieve such high multicore performance at lower power. The 15W-54W Phoenix will have much higher battery life, since that is monolithic too.

    • @mingyi456
      @mingyi456 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@mikeb3172 It might also be because the 7945hx is chiplet just like the 7950x (because they need chiplets to get 16 cores with good yields and reasonable cost), and the 7950x has significantly higher idle power consumption than even the 13900k due to the chiplet design. When amd does monolithic, they beat intel in battery life but seem to lose performance due to the lack of l3 cache that can fit.

    • @ikjadoon
      @ikjadoon ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@mikeb3172 I don't think he messed up the test, but it is hard to pinpoint what as there's no power data during the battery life test. Maybe that would help? Notebookcheck found the 7945HX CPU package power to consume 42% more power at idle than the i9-13900HX (8.3W on AMD vs 5.8W on Intel). 2.5 at 1hr idle = 2.5 WHr stolen.
      >We also checked the CPU Package Power while idling with identical power settings on both systems. Intel's Core i9-13900HX is better in this regard with an average consumption of 5.8 Watts, while the AMD Ryzen 9 7945HX consumes 42 % more at ~8.3 Watts.
      But that'd only explain maybe ~10 WHr due to higher load (thus a ~11% loss in battery life). Something else is wrong here.

  • @johnny_blz
    @johnny_blz 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Please in future videos include some audio production tests such as latency and throw in some plugins in a Daw to see the CPU loads and compare. There's nothing for the audio guys on Ytube and if you include this everytime it'll become the place to go for us.

  • @sakuyahuang7407
    @sakuyahuang7407 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very Detail's Test!!! Thx !!!!

  • @danutzzz1990
    @danutzzz1990 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for this review i made up my mind thanks to it. I bought the Intel version rog 18, but with nvidia 4070. I work a lot in Corel Draw and with Adobe Suite.

  • @otozinclus3593
    @otozinclus3593 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    11:37 I think I have an explanation:
    As you stated before, the 7945hx is a bit more efficient. So maybe it drawing less power improves thermals or powersupply for the GPU?

  • @soraaoixxthebluesky
    @soraaoixxthebluesky ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Love the fact that both are so close in real world performance. You can’t go wrong with either both.

    • @niko1even
      @niko1even ปีที่แล้ว +8

      except for in the battery life department, both are terrible with the 7945HX getting partiuclarly bad battery life. But hey, the people who get these laptops are likely getting them for desktop performance purposes... for the most part.

    • @ashutoshtiwary9605
      @ashutoshtiwary9605 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@niko1evenyup battery life is a no brainer for these kind of laptops
      They are just portable desktops at this point

    • @niko1even
      @niko1even 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ashutoshtiwary9605 kind of. If you're used to carrying a heavy laptop, 16 inchers are fine. I carry around the Scar 16 to classes everyday and it's fine. It's when you get to the 17 and 18 inchers where it gets unwieldy. In fact, I love using the Scar 16 for everyday use, it's a fantastic daily driver.

  • @ChristoJohnson
    @ChristoJohnson ปีที่แล้ว +1

    LOVED IT ! please try for a mid-tier CPU comparison test. More like Best bang for buck !! (also suggestions for suitable GPU - RTX 40 series preferred )

  • @creepo1230
    @creepo1230 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great comparison! I wonder how the Intel Core i9-13900H compares to the intel i9-13980hx since I see the 13900h in many midrange to highrange laptops and the 13980hx in more highrange laptops. Are the 13980hx laptops worth their price?

  • @romaniachin6751
    @romaniachin6751 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Perfect review, tnx a lot.

  • @nehalmathew7510
    @nehalmathew7510 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ty for the review

  • @santiniperico8627
    @santiniperico8627 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very interesting as always, thanks JT

  • @absaglam
    @absaglam ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you. You are always my favorite.

  • @mr3_def
    @mr3_def ปีที่แล้ว +1

    okay, just before I watch the vid: mad props for putting all these chapters and timestamps.

  • @vivek1393
    @vivek1393 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello Jarrod. Thank you for the great video. Is there any info on how to undervolt the Scar 17 CPU?

  • @lt_jayden
    @lt_jayden 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you so much, I've spent over 14 hours researching whether I should get the 17 or 18, you save me a lot of time by making this video.

  • @kmtaslimulhasan
    @kmtaslimulhasan ปีที่แล้ว

    Appreciate your effort. Earned a subscriber.... Keep it up❤

  • @GewelReal
    @GewelReal ปีที่แล้ว +6

    12:34 Zen 4 laptop chips are same as desktop ones. Those aren't monolithic. 610M is simply what Zen 4 comes with by default, as this iGPU is inside of the I/O die

  • @YoreHistory
    @YoreHistory ปีที่แล้ว

    AMON AMARTH SHIRT...alone worth watching the video seeing you wear that :) Great video, great band, great reviewer. Thanks Jarrod! cheers m8!

  • @contiplays
    @contiplays ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Daaamn, how much I love competition.

  • @TheJPedrosa
    @TheJPedrosa ปีที่แล้ว +23

    quite a bummer for me, I loved the last generation of amd processors because they managed to deliver pretty good performance while doubling the battery life compared to intel. sucks to know that this isn't the case with these two high end chips

    • @DragonOfTheMortalKombat
      @DragonOfTheMortalKombat 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      you need to get 7040HS or U series processors for that, they have better battery life compared to even ryzen 6000. 7945HX is just 7950X desktop with less memory speeds. Same with 13980HK, it is literally a 13900K.

    • @rafaelclp
      @rafaelclp 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      From other reviews, the ryzen 9 seems to be way more efficient than the i9 in multi-core heavy workloads (all cores being pushed as hard as possible), and show similar efficiency in single core heavy workloads (a single core being pushed to 100%). However, for workloads that are not heavy at all (like the one done by Jarrod - watching a simple youtube video), the efficiency cores in the i9 are enough to keep the task going, so there's no need for the performance cores to kick in, thus saving a lot of battery.

  • @davidgunther8428
    @davidgunther8428 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Could the small lead at 1440p and 4K be from less electricity going to the CPU and more to the graphics from the reduced frame rates at higher resolutions?

  • @seanprzybyla2157
    @seanprzybyla2157 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    any chance in adding in some vr performance into your laptop reviews?
    I'm looking to make my desktop portable with something like one of these laptops, actualy the 7945hx 4080 zephyrus duo and some vr performance numbers would really help with the decision.
    Looking more for a portable desktop replacement than a 'laptop' where its always plugged in, for mobile work i am more than happy with the 12 hours i get out of my m2 apple.

  • @cocohebert199
    @cocohebert199 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Could the 4K results seeming to be higher for AMD be a result of the 4090 drawing max wattage at 4K leaving less total power for the CPU ?

    • @raymondrached6301
      @raymondrached6301 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I thought about it too, if thats the case its just amd's efficiency coming into play and a genuine advantage.

    • @niko1even
      @niko1even ปีที่แล้ว

      no shouldn't be, the Scar 18 has a 330w power supply, and games shouldn't push the CPU all the way to 175 watts.

    • @greebj
      @greebj ปีที่แล้ว +1

      cross load limits might be lower tho. The less pure performance-oriented models like these tend to have firmware limits in place to limit CPU power under full GPU load to keep well below powerbrick limit.

  • @Fontouraf22
    @Fontouraf22 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    thank you for the great vid Professor Snape.

  • @karlbjorn1831
    @karlbjorn1831 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    great video thank you so much

  • @amadei2
    @amadei2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I wish a compagny will put a 7945hx in a smaller chassis, even at 65w. Seem like it would destroy everything for a productivity laptop

  • @daratanefe7432
    @daratanefe7432 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks gareth that's so kind of you.

  • @seem36O
    @seem36O ปีที่แล้ว

    I was worried most about ray tracing performance but for gaming sound like price and good deal will be the major considered here.

  • @kanbei0412
    @kanbei0412 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Jarrod how about R7 7745hx vs intel i7 13800hx? does it have the same result?

  • @DaeguKyle
    @DaeguKyle 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Your videos are excellent assessments and just what I was looking for. I enjoy the lack of hyperbole.

  • @ryanvtec3885
    @ryanvtec3885 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    wow 16 full cores in a laptop and 32 threads wild

  • @danial_amini
    @danial_amini 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    wow thank you for going through so many games and apps, damn

  • @DragonOfTheMortalKombat
    @DragonOfTheMortalKombat ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Waiting for this for a long time.

  • @user-dz3ph7dl4m
    @user-dz3ph7dl4m ปีที่แล้ว

    A lot of work done on this one. great work.

  • @indramoktanindy6128
    @indramoktanindy6128 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Which one would be good for good for music production and video editing ? Need an advice !
    Thank you

  • @BASTIKS_I6
    @BASTIKS_I6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Please make a comparison of these laptops, and tell me which one is best to take, which one would you take?

  • @astanalavista
    @astanalavista ปีที่แล้ว

    If you get your hands on the Blade 14 2023 with RTX40 can you do a comparison with the G14 2023 and also if you can, test both the performance when unplugged? :D

  • @lubossoltes321
    @lubossoltes321 ปีที่แล้ว

    CPU cores are on the CCD, iGPU is on the IOdie ... so size in this case does not play a role ... it's more a power delivery issue I'd say ...

  • @abc_cba
    @abc_cba 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    exactly, why I love your channel. Thank you.

  • @muhammedozbek7492
    @muhammedozbek7492 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    with undervolt, amd cpu reaches 36000 score at cinebench r23 and intel cpu reach 34000 score, pretty close tho

    • @shrey522
      @shrey522 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Can you undervolt AMD CPU?

    • @muhammedozbek7492
      @muhammedozbek7492 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@shrey522 Not much as intel, but you definitely can

  • @goregon86kr
    @goregon86kr 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    good information,,, thkanks,,,
    and, can i know all core boost clock?(max load)

  • @sushimshah2896
    @sushimshah2896 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Absolute monster Ryzen!!
    Disappointed by the battery life though, hopefully it improves. (Maybe they could use a similar technique they employ to park CCDs on their desktop chips)

    • @defnotatroll
      @defnotatroll ปีที่แล้ว

      Why is the battery life poor? Battery life is where Ryzen is meant to crush Intel but these HX chips are really bad in that area

    • @greebj
      @greebj ปีที่แล้ว +12

      It's the core chiplet design - infinity fabric has had bad idle power use since Zen 1. Multiple dies communicating through the interposer routed through the IO die is just less power efficient than a ring bus on a single bit of silicon. The actual ryzen core itself is far more efficient than Intel's raptor lake P cores. But runs hotter because zen is really squished in there, being a server design at heart where they want heaps of cores running efficiently at low clockspeed. We consumers however pay a lot less than datacenters do for silicon so we get less of the same chiplets clocked way higher and that makes them less efficient. Swings and roundabouts.

    • @wawaweewa9159
      @wawaweewa9159 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@defnotatroll has to be cpu idle power, no way 2cus is using more power than intels igpu lol, they need to fix software asap

    • @fukukaicho
      @fukukaicho ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ​@@defnotatroll these are the dragon range laptop cpus, they are desktop replacement class products providing high load efficiency. for ultrabooks and battery life, look for amds phoenix point cpus, which are the ones that get 20h+ of battery life

  • @wingmanemu3473
    @wingmanemu3473 ปีที่แล้ว

    hey jarrod! would you please make a comparison bitween the rtx 4060 vs rtx 3070? thank you for your work :)

  • @ETophales
    @ETophales ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Loved the PCIe bandwidth test. Always nice to get a bit of additional data.

  • @wawaweewa9159
    @wawaweewa9159 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How tf is 2 graphic cores using more power for video playback, did you bother investigating? Is it high cpu idle while paying video thats esting up battery??

  • @XBnPC
    @XBnPC 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Man, your content is just amazing. It highlights the best of each product and is as thorough and non-biased of a run down as I've ever seen. Fantastic job 👏 Ty

  • @MatthewCimone
    @MatthewCimone ปีที่แล้ว

    6:47 nice lightbar sync

  • @moonfire5069
    @moonfire5069 ปีที่แล้ว

    The same 13980hx from strix g16 instead of g18 has been reporting phenomenal battery life? Close to 9.5 hours. That's phenomenal for a hx processor. You think 4080 and 16 inch ips draws less power than 16 inch mini led or the scar 18?

  • @Nerun2000
    @Nerun2000 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the extensive tests! Currently I'm getting really annoyed with my Laptop performance, but it's partially the bad optimization for the games at fault, but I still suspect that my single core performance of my CPU is an issue. (Lenovo Legion with RTX 3080 and Ryzen 7 5800H). Games like Redfall, Anno 1800, Sons of the Forest, etc. were really having issues with frame rates. Is there any way to overclock the CPU at least a little bit?

    • @sushimshah2896
      @sushimshah2896 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ryzen Master, PBO2?

    • @mo7amamdouh
      @mo7amamdouh ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sushimshah2896 doesnt work on laptops. if the OEM doesn't deploy their own control software u got no way to do it

  • @mariuspuiu9555
    @mariuspuiu9555 ปีที่แล้ว

    was the youtube video in the batter test running on the dedicated GPU for AMD?

  • @unknownmonkey8661
    @unknownmonkey8661 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ordered the 17 for $800 less than the 18 with the same specs. Also seems like 17 has less or no coil whine compared to 18 as some say. Will see when it arrives in a day or two

    • @vivek1393
      @vivek1393 ปีที่แล้ว

      Have you experienced any coil whine yet?

  • @celticgibson
    @celticgibson 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have the 7945hx in my legion pro 7 and man it’s fire. Love it!

    • @sosuslays
      @sosuslays 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      thinking about buying the 4090 version of the pro 7i, based on you having it would you recommmend i buy it? is there anything holding back why you wouldnt?

    • @celticgibson
      @celticgibson 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The 4080 is a scream as it is. I'm sure you will be thrilled with the 4090. I love the design of this laptop. Very stylish and subtle yet powerful when it needs to be.@@sosuslays

  • @johndoh5182
    @johndoh5182 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think in gaming you're seeing the difference between older game engines and newer game engines, especially UE5 which puts a decent workload on the CPU and lumen and nanite in particular, and probably at greater resolutions it's a bigger workload on the CPU and GPU BOTH. So, the old view of greater resolution always means more work on the GPU, so much so that the CPU doesn't matter just isn't true anymore. It's not true for desktop now as the 4090 is showing. The CPU is making more difference.
    In fact even NOW there isn't a CPU that exists that can keep up with the 4090 in all situations, even at 2K and 4K. In some games you're not hitting a GPU bottleneck, but you are with CPUs paired with the 4090.

  • @k1dtw1st
    @k1dtw1st ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you do a 2023 Ryzen 7 vs i7 comparison?

  • @ron98fb
    @ron98fb ปีที่แล้ว

    Which one is better Scar 16 or Zephyrus M16 (both with rtx 4080 & mini LED displays)? Which one has better cooling and performance? Make a comparison video pls.

  • @reztimarla4143
    @reztimarla4143 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    7945HX
    Truly high end portable desktop

  • @kotenkostiantyn1282
    @kotenkostiantyn1282 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Would be nice to see an mid range comparsion for AMD and Intel

  • @jakfut2167
    @jakfut2167 ปีที่แล้ว

    Serious question, how is AES 256 a laptop productivity benchmark? What are people doing on their laptop?

  • @dd22koopaesverde58
    @dd22koopaesverde58 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    test the r7 hx vs the r9 hx in games remember that games usually dont use more than 8 cores

  • @jakepaucarpura8298
    @jakepaucarpura8298 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What would be your recommendation if I’m deciding between the scar 17 AMD and the Scar 16 4080?