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- In this video we review the Legion 7 and 7i and compare the intel and Ryzen processors to see which offers the best performance or the best value for money!
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TIMETSTAMPS
0:00:00 - Intro and Specs
0:01:13 - Editions / Other Legion Options
0:02:25 - RGB
0:03:01 - Build Quality
0:03:43 - Trackpad
0:04:05 - Speakers
0:04:57 - Power Button
0:05:14 - Screen
0:05:36 - Webcam
0:06:04 - Ports
0:07:00 - Internals
0:08:05 - Performance
0:12:27 - Battery Life
0:13:43 - Conclusion
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Hi there. I've just watched your review and want to say thanks since I am thinking about buying one of those laptops and your review has made me enlightened. However, due to $600 price difference at where I reside, I have doubts to go with i9. My priority is content creation, photo & video editing, etc. instead of gaming. Do you think I would experience trouble with 7945hx? And have you found a way to manipulate watt & temperature of 7945HX manually?
A comparison that I didn't know I needed.
Lenovo's wave of mega silent firings in early 2023 were absolutely despicable. They laid of thousands of really great people after posting record profits and bragging about moving up the Forbes list each quarter in their "All Hands" NA org sales meetings to those people that moved the needle for them. They ruined thousands of people's lives, especially those that relocated and even bought new homes during the peak of covid when Lenovo asked for their dedication to support and grow the business. Their warranty process is atrocious and considered terrible by anyone who has had to deal with service claims on top of this.
Fantastic review. You saved me a lot of money since they're running a special on the Intel version right now. Subbed.
Hey Mash, thank you very much for your thorough review! One question: Do you know if the Ryzen version does also utilize liquid metal as TIM?
Lenovo states that the ryzen also uses Liquid Metal but I did not remove the heatsink to confirm
Cant wait to see this video i was waiting for it for a good while. Tysm
Yeah sorry, we have just had so much to get through this year!
Great content as always :D
Hello, thank you for your videos, since you give an exact and detailed explanation, although I see them with subtitles since I am Cuban and I don't understand English, could you make a video explaining how to make an undervolt for the Legion 7i pro with the i9- 13900HX, I have it with the 4070 version and I added 64GB of ram at 5600MHz but it reads them at 5200MHz, I would like to do an undervol to lower the i9 temperatures a little, which are vastly high for my taste, thank you and have a good day.
Awesome video dude. I was considering the Ryzen version because its cheaper, but those temps are just too much
Great review!
Although I am still leaning towards the efficiency of Ryzen versus Intel, but they are very even, both in cores and in raw power. I have a question, is it possible to use the 2023 version charging block on the 2022 Lenovo Legion 7i? To consider having a powerful block and being able to transport it with less weight.
Yes they are completely interchangeable. I use both on both years and even legion 5 pro
Some people are a little bit dopey about this subject. Plastic is an insulator, and metal, especially aluminum, is a conductor, which means it'll fry your hands, as the keyboard deck becomes part of the heat dissipation system. You want plastic for the keyboard deck so it doesn't conduct heat.
Try playing with the nahmic or whatever it's called app it really brings out the audio on mine
Thank you very much for the comparison! Can i confirm if the keyboard surface is the same temperature for both Ryzen and intel as the ryzen runs hotter? Also does the Ryzen cpu run at full power when doing less demanding tasks which would mean more fan noise and heat vs the intel counterpart when doing less intensive tasks?
Thanks again!
I can confirm that both my units had very similar deck and keyboard temps and both were cool for long gaming sessions (2+ hours of BF and COD)
Did the Ryzen version have worse 1% lows than the intel while gaming? In the video it seemed like there was some stuttering during gameplay only on the Ryzen
I just bought the Pro 7i, 32g memory, 4080, 1tb drive, at about 30% off on a black Friday sale. I looked for all the reviews I could find, and was wondering if I should wait for the AMD version. I'm glad I grabbed the 7i. It's replacing my Alienware M17R4 3070, that I bought after watching your review of it. It's been a great machine with absolutely no problems. I wasn't sure about going to the smaller screen, but so far, so good. Very happy with the display. I do hate to part with the M17R4 though.
So why did you decide to say bye to Alienware, you wanted some more and updated performance?
@@shitmir First thing, I love my Alienware M17R4. It's been a great laptop with no problems. But, I'd been looking at the new laptops with the 13 gen CPUs and new Nvidia 4080 GPU's. A black Friday $850 off, on a loaded Pro 7i (32 gigs, 4080cpu) was too good to pass up. I'm now, sadly, getting my M17R4 ready for sale.
@@scottb5178 oh, alright.. yeah, good deals are hard to pass by... I am curious to hear your comparison between these two laptops in terms of noise and temps in lower and higher loads situations, like browsing Internet or movie streaming, vs 25 min or so of gaming.. they both have good cooling system, but one IS newer and more up to date..
@@shitmir I have to stop watching Mash It reviews.I got the Alienware after watching his review on the m17r4, now I bought the Pro 7i after watching his 7i / 9i comparison on Black Friday. I hate to say it, but I don't notice a lot of difference in the 2 while gaming. I'm using higher settings and getting much better frame rates, with a much nicer display, but I don't really notice it in the heat of battle. The 7i fans are a little louder, I think, but I use a IETS cooler that tends to be louder than the laptops fans. Temps stay good, in the 60 - 75 range on both. For everything other than gaming, I've been running it in Quiet mode with little if any fan noise. Even balanced mode isn't bad, but it can get louder than the m17r4 while gaming.
@@scottb5178 wow, that is quite an insight.. at this, one probably needs a 5 year gap between devices at this point to actually notice a remarkable and significant performance difference.
Most likely, a very important difference that benefits this Legion is newer gen internals, cooling and longer support from this point..
In the Uk the price gap between m17r5 snd LP7 is about 600-700 pounds.. and I have to justify it to myself, eapecially because one can hardly notice that difference paying out in practice..
I am not a gamer (only on an ocassional weekend night off and older titles like Crysis 2/3, Just cause 3/4)), but need to appreciate my machine and be happy about it. Lenovo G770 with i5-2410m and 2GB Radeon HD 6650m has done that for the last 12 years🤣.. I think I “just” might notice some performance and efficiency advantage on 10 generation newer chips💁😀…
But definitely, you are set for good 3 years, or until good and stable 3nm CPUs and GPUs show up.😃👍 until I get my new lappy, I live vicariously through you!
The Legion Pro 7 can be undervolted from the BIOS using the all core curve optimizer setting or you can undervolt using AATU, also using the all core curve optimizer setting. I saw the BIOS way exists in the 7 Pro 7745HX model.
Oh amazing news, I didn’t think to look in BIOS for undervolting. Did you try it?
This is false information. There is no such setting in AMD version of BIOS. AATU tool is now continued as UXTU, which doesn't have support for Dragon Range processors yet. So perhaps you are referring to Pro 7i instead.
Great review! Does lenovo have any "macbook" looking laptops? Kinda like an ultrabook
yes some of their yoga range are very much like that. I have a couple of Yoga 14" laptops I will be reviewing soon, they are currently still in the studio being tested
@@MashITTech looking forward! Subbed
ty. i'd love to see the Ryzen with boost disabled. it's always best to disable it in gaming laptops unless you need pure CPU
WHAT A PRO, GREAT REVIEW, SUBBED. Do you think this lappy would run Microsft simulator on VR?
I get weird flicker in scren when ever i open youtube in laptop only half open but if fyll screen it doesn't flicker and anyohter thing i am watchinh it doesn't flicker but wjen youthbe is half opend them it flccker what is the problem
Great comparison and thanks for bringing this to us. Looks like that the Ryzen HX series Processors are not properly tuned in Lenovo Legion 7 Laptop, probably due to the fact they have been launched this year for the 1st time whereas Intel's HX series processors were launched last year and laptop vendors have had enough time to tune it. From the benchmarks you've shown, looks like the Ryzen processor is running at unnecessary higher clockspeed, irrespective of the actual workload. may be using 3rd party tools like like AMD APU tuning Utility to restrict the total CPU power during gaming can yield some better performance and battery life. I think this is due to the case that unlike normal Ryzen Mobile processors (Last gen H and this zen HS series) which use monolithic design, HX series uses Dual Chiplet based design just like the Desktop Counterparts and needs different degree of tuning for optimizing the Power curve.
yeah I need to spend some time trying to get these chips working with a software tool, I couldn't get them working with APU tuning maybe because they are still pretty new
@@MashITTech Can you try the latest Universal x86 Tuning Utility?
haven't even heard of that one! Let me try it when I get in the office tomorrow
@@MashITTechdo you by chance know how much v ram in in the 4080 with this computer
Got the legion amd version 3 days ago, can confirm as of 23.03.2024, Universal doesnt work :(
Amazing review 😎
In the latest BIOS Update for the legion 7 amd there is a new cpu overclocking setting in "advance". This should allow us to make similar changes and undervolts like the intel model!
would this keep the temp down on the ryzen version with 4080?
Silly question to ask, but ummm...how many fps did you get on quiet mode during your fan sound? And were the settings on high and was on qhd?
let me go and double check and I tested them all in 1600p high settings
@@MashITTech That would be awesome! I'm always curious what fps you'd get on quiet mode because I'm curious if quiet mode is the same performance of a RTX 2060 desktop
It´s very weird that are no Advanced Optmus available in the Ryzen version... my Slim 5, a entry line model, has it ! About the perfomance, you can manage the power draws CPU/GPU in the Perfomance Custom Profile in the Lenovo Vantage software.
Oh I feel like a complete idiot now, I completely forgot about that option and even used it in the intel version! Thanks for pointing it out
@@MashITTech If possible, make an extra vid or shorts, showing if tweaking the configs, do any difference in performance
Unfortunately vantage has so limited options for TDP tuning.. And no other software is still supports ryzen 7 HS and HX CPUs..
Just got my 7i w/ 4090.
I love it.
I have a question this model with the legion 5 pro R9000P (china option), I think it kind similar, except the keyboard rpg
yes very similar, check out my legion pro 5 or 5i video, I put a link in the description
So if you had a choice between a Legion 5 Pro with the Ryzen 7 7745HX & RTX 4070 or the Intel 9 13900HX & RTX 4060 with the former $100 more than the latter which would you choose? BTW, both have 32 GB Ram with the former at 5200 MHz and the latter at 5600MHz.
Been waiting for this.. .Thank you! Which one would you pick if they were the same price?
if they were they same price I would pick the intel for slightly better gaming performance and intel quick sync as I would use it for work as well as games
I am looking to get one for productivity and for having it on for most of the day. Which version would you recommend?
for productivity I would probably get the intel mostly for the intel on board gfx and intel quick sync. That is unless the Ryzen version is a LOT cheaper in your region
Loving my Legion 7i Pro with RTX 4080 🔥
Have you upgraded to a Desktop yet?
Why would he @@stardomplays1386
Does your laptop become excessively warm during intense gaming sessions?
i find these newer Legions don't look as good as the older models
I want to ask something
My legion slim 7i lid doesn't close properly to the deck the hinge is tight or dobt know will it give prblm to svreen? 2022 model
I am a bit confused, it won't shut or is it off angle?
Is the 240hz screen in the 7/7i exactly the same 240hz screen in the Pro 5 and 5i? In these reviews, the brightness (500 nits) and color gamut (around 70-75% Adobe RGB) seems to be the same. At the same time, the Slim 7's 240hz screen seems to be a different one which comes in with a bit higher color accuracy/range but slightly lower brightness at around 480 nits.
They are all potentially the same but you have to win the panel lottery as with a lot of these big manufacturers, they usually use 2 to 3 different panel makers per laptop, I have had a boe and csot panel so far but both got over 500 nits and had similar colour gamut
@@MashITTech I see. Thank you.
Hello, was any noticeable difference in low workload/usage scenarios in terms of noise, fans and temperatures? Theoretically this should be area where more effective Ryzen should shine against Intel. Theoretically....
you would think so but unfortunately not a lot of difference. Even though the Ryzen uses less power it gets hot (probably because it is a smaller die) and the fans come on when installing apps, windows update etc. ITs not loud or bothersome though
Great video! I'm in doubt now, I see an EUR 600 difference (AMD less expensive) but the 100° temps really freak me out. I need to make a decision!
I just got the amd version but i'm worried that it drains too much power with increased temperatures. Did you find any tool for fine tuning the amd processor?
That's a good question, and you really don't have to. I just like to show people what the laptop is capable of as I get asked so frequently. If you don't need masses of storage and don't want the hassle, you could just leave the original 1tb in place and just add a second drive
After launched of Windows 11, I was just never too much overthinking about Processor. Both of them are great in their own, I mean has their own characteristics
It depends on worlkflow too. Those who use linux as their main os would prefer amd over intel
Legion pro 7i 2022 good?
No thoughts on the keyboard? I've seen a few videos where WASD flex like crazy. That's a really bad dealbreaker for me, if the laptops I've seen on reddit aren't just defective and could be fixed.
there is some flex in the board but in all honesty unless you are hammering on the keyboard or actively looking for it you probably won't notice it
please let me know if the amd version is good as the intel version, and the difference, temperature, ramm ecc.ecc thanks a lot
Have you seen the video, lazy bee?
Hey just curious mine benches pretty well 20k on timespy 4090 but I sometimes get lag on the windows ui animations even when plugged in and just wondering if this is normal the latencymon results are also terrible on this laptop at the moment so hopefully they can fix this as I believe it's causing microstutter/ uneven frametimes. 13900hx cpu latest nvidia driver
Add me on Instagram and we can look together, I am not getting any lag in windows. I haven’t checked latency Mon but o can if it helps
It's some issue with dgpu mode. There's massive DPC latency spikes which causes constant microstutter every few seconds. hybrid is alot better but yeah anything that runs at 60 fps the rog ally runs it better cuz the dpc latency is far lower. I averaged about 6ms on the ally vs 60 on the laptop. This is after reinstalling windows multiple times. I thought drivers were getting corrupted or something so hopefully they can fix this issue. Also do you have the power mode set to best performance in Windows? It's in the System | battery settings
Thanks for yet another great review! Are these comfortable for long gaming sessions? I've read there is a bit of keyboard flex around the WASD area, is that true? All specs being equal, would you rather game on those or on an Alienware M18? Many thanks!
In the official specification the AMD variant doesn't have USB 4
2nd remark is that AMD version also has Advanced Optimus.
how do these stack against the 2024 refresh 7i "slim" ?
well the new slim only goes unto a 4070 so this can do a 4080 or 4090. the slim model is more premium though so if you dont need the most powerful GPUs its worth considering
Thanks for the review. Could you please tell me if the Lenovo 7pro is at a good price with this configuration 2131€ : 7945hx, RTX 4080, 32go 5200mhz, 512go SSD, 16"500nits.
Bought it during BF but I can cancel it due to delays delivery.
Thanks 🙏
That's a great price and spec! You did well :)
Thanks for your answer @@MashITTech .
in uk we got deal 1600£ for this on black friday from lenovo
@@MashITTechHi im from Colombia, please can you tell me if I got a good price with the following features?...
LEGION 7 PRO
Core I9 13900HX 24 cores 32 Threads up to 5.4 Ghz
SSD 2 TB M.2 2280 PCIe Gen4
32 GB DDR5-5600MHz
GeForce RTX™ 4090 - 16 GB GDDR6
16" WQXGA (2560 x 1600)
$13.500.000 COP
$3.426 USD
3122 € EUR
I await your response, I appreciate your honesty. Thank you so much.
You can use Amd Tuning Utility to boost your CPU performance on amd laptops. There's also a silent mode which lets the CPU run on only 1-2 watts for good battery life.
How did you get amd tuning utility running on this laptop? It wouldn’t work for me?
@@MashITTech Version 1.1.0 b5
I will give it a try
@@MashITTech Any luck with this mash? I really want to buy a legion right now, but i also want to see how the amd chip runs after some undervolting before i pick one.
On the Lenovo website, the Legion 7 Pro (AMD) doesn't seem to have USB 4. It seems very dumb because the Slim 7 (AMD) has it.
dpc-latency?
You got one of the best battery life results on the 7945HX. I am actually shocked. Remember 7x45HX series is basically desktop Ryzen 7000 which is not monolithic. It's based on chiplets and has a separate IOD, which increase idle power draw. The intel on the other hand is monolithic but it's battery life is not much better. Compare this to AMD's monolithic chips like all past Ryzen chips including this years Pheonix range 7x40HS and the difference is night and day.
Oh wow did I, there was me thinking I got a really crappy result 😂
me too also. DEEPTESH .suggest me some laptops.
I actually just bought the Intel version of that laptop, but it was basically because it came at an extreme bargain. I currently own a 2021 Ryzen version, of which I am so satisfied that I guess I would go for AMD again, if they only had an offer at the same price. I honestly don't know why I picked up this version now, since it isn't that much better than my current R9 5900HX/RTX3080 16GB. I just felt that the price was so attractive and with 4 years of Premium Care and Accidental damage protection, it will last for that long, and I also get the feeling that price performance ratios will only get worse from now on, and this was the time to strike. Kind of a gut feeling.
The Legion 9 is just a sham, and a lousy attempt at market segmentation. For somewhere between double and three times the price, you get very little extra. It's just for people who want to show off, and in that case, why not go for MSI, Asus, Razer or Alienware (MacBook?). Lenovo should fire their marketing department, or maybe I am way off and there are loads of people with loads of money who wants a Lenovo Legion with a fancy metal chassis and Windows Hello.
The only negative thing I can say about a Legion 7, is that it doesn't come in a 17" or 18" version. Well, that and that they stripped off some cost-neutral features to make room for the Legion 9. And I must admit that it feels quite stupid to lose 4GB of VRAM which is an obvious bottleneck to come on triple-A titles. That is not Lenovos fault, but why the hell does Nvidia strip down the VRAM between 3080 (Ti) to 4080. It's not exactly where the major cost lies. Oh, how we would need more manufacturers to implement the 7900M to get some competition in the laptop gaming market.
I know the 7900M came too late, just as the RX6850M XT did, but hell would we need a range of prime gaming laptops with that combination that could compete with the same performance and the lower price of those components. A full AMD Lenovo Legion 7 and others would really have stirred the market to the benefit of all customers.
how much did u paid
@@devanshanil2468 This is in Denmark, so mind that the prices are much higher than in the US, but basically $2700 including 4 years of Premium Care support.
@@henrikg1388 it is still cheaper than here in india. how are temps while gaming
@@devanshanil2468 I am still trying to figure out how to undervolt it to the best, but out-of-the-box, the temps aren't bad. You feel it when you have it on your "lap", but no other issues really. Don't expect to game more than to hours on battery, though, but I never did. I just like the power and portability.
Hey Mashit would you review the Alienware M18 AMD series laptop with the 7900M please it has amazing performance even on battery beating out any other laptop on battery currently and possibly the highest performance in a laptop in 2023 as you’re reviewing AMD laptops would love this review! Great video as always!
Also would you recommend the M18 as one of the best laptops of 2023 ? Even with the QHD+ 165hz screen as it’s a lower refresh rate than others it’s just so hard to choose because it has that gorgeous mechanical keyboard and everything else is amazing about the laptop.
I would love to but dell won’t sell the ryzen in the U.K. for some reason and definitely yes, the m18 is one of the best gaming laptops this year
@@MashITTechwould you recommend going for a better screen’d laptop or adding an external monitor if you really want a better screen as compared to other competitors out there 165hz QHD+ isn’t that great let me know please 👍
Screen quality is great, no issue there. Everyone is just moaning that it’s only 300nit as opposed to 500 not on razer etc
Can the 2022 version of Ryzen configuration video edit 1080p 60fps
yes of course it can edit 4k60 too
@@evilhildathanks
Are you sure the AMD is as good or slightly better in single thread cpu heavy games like Overwatch/ old fps/openworld mmos from 2009 at low resolution1080p (or even 720p) 360hz monitor? Because thats all i play and i can get the AMD version for $237 cheaper, its on sale for next 24 hours for just $1962 7945hx/4080/32gb/ 2x 1tb ssds vs Intel 13900hx/4080/ 32gb/ 1tb ssd for $2099 (but i require a second ssd for shadowplay game play recordings so i'd have to buy and add another $100 for $2199 total). Which would you recommend to me?
yes, the new ryzen chips are clock for clock comparable to intel in most titles and run far faster as they are more efficient which is why you see over 5ghz regularly but the intel is often 2-3ghz due to power throttling.
Thx for the comparison. I chose Ryzen version as it eas 600€ cheaper.
Is there a risk that the hotter running Ryzen CPU leads to a tjermal throttling of the GPU, especially if you have a 4090 installed? Or is the heat from the CPU kept away from the GPU?
And is the Ryzen still limited to PCIE 3.0? I read this in reviews but in the PSREF it says PCIE 4.0.
wow at 600 difference that's a no brainer. There will be no throttling at all from my experience. At worst you may get a few less watts to the GPU as its giving it to the CPU but I am trying to find software to manipulate the CPU manually and Legion may improve this in a future BIOS too (and its not bad at all but just a little less than the intel version)
@@MashITTech Thx for the swift, nay, instantaneous reply.
Hey Mash, Is it worth going for the 4090 over the 4080?
for most people no, the price difference isn't worth it. The only reason it makes sense is if you use it for heavy editing/rendering/3d work and need that extra vram
@@MashITTech my primary use would be for gaming so do you think that extra fps from the GTX 4090 is worth the extra money in the long term considering the use of the laptop might stretch for at least more than 5 years?
Hey i love your work you very good at what you do guess dell is behind now!
Thank you mate. I have always been a big fan of Alienware but this year it feels they have lost their way a bit! I don't understand why we didn't see an X18!!
I got a bf deal on AMD, with a view to selling Intel version, however I’m keeping Intel I could not not find a game AMD pulled ahead. Also the Samsung memory was 5600 in AMD despite advertised as 5200. I thought given AMD needed lower wattage then intel it would allow more power to the gpu but it didn’t work out that why. But I agree go for whichever is cheaper. 2024 might be a slow news year for laptops unless there a nvidia super refresh of gpus ..
So hold on, yours came with 5600mhz memory working at 5600mhz? Mine was 5200mhz! Although the cpu is more efficient clock for click with intel it just boosts the Ryzen cpu to over 5ghz for no benefit leading to less watts available to the gpu! I am sure this is something they could easily change either a bios update but who knows of that would happen
It was running at 5200 however the chips were 2 x 16 Samsung 5600 mhz
ah yes, mine were too, I thought you meant it was also showing up as 5600mhz! :)
Amd run super hot i don't recemond it hot equal new fans lot of noise
Think the asus zepherus m16 looks better but ill wait till battery hopefully improve
I'm confused... what gonna be better for gaming? Intel or Ryzen?
The ryzen due to the higher clock speed but for work related tasks probably the intel
Waiting for the Qualcomm X arm cpu for a ratio of performance:battery that will crush the competition in laptops.
we do need it, battery life sucks atm
Ordered the Intel 4080 variant last week and waiting for it :)
Hope you enjoy it!
Thank you! Have you noticed the flex around WASD keys? I've heard about it in many channels@@MashITTech
there is some flex on the keyboard but I doubt you will notice it if you don't go actively looking for it. Of course if you press down hard its going to flex but in my gaming use I never noticed anything
Thanks for your answer. And also another question, have you experienced micro stutters while gaming? This seems to be an issue for some users.@@MashITTech
I have the AMD version on order. Est. shipping date 29/12/23
The battery life Possible hurt because the 16 cores ryzen is chiplet design instead of their 8 core monodie chip like 7840/7940
I wonder how he decides what to use for the speaker tests
do you mean the music I choose?
@@MashITTech
yeah exactly
The RGB lightbar on our Legion died less than 2 weeks after receiving it.
I want to buy 7i version, but I really can’t find it in stores, but there are a lot of propositions with Ryzen version!!!! Why is that?
intel has quicksync which is very fast at encoding edited videos
@@evilhilda and? I just don’t get the point
I think 7i is best 4080 lap which can beat some 4090 laptops on gaming
... what a grand shame what they did with the Legion Pro 7i line, moving all the bells and whistles to the higher Pro 9i line.
you can undervolt the intel for more efficiency and heat, not sure if Ryzen is doable.
I have also the problem with the legion 5 pro (R9000P 7945hx), the cpu always over 5 ghz makes the laptop always hot, althought i don't do any thing is hard just searching web and watching youtube
even in quiet mode? I will see if I can find some software to scale the CPU back when I get time as it can be a bit annoying having max power all the time
@@MashITTech With the quite mode the cpu will go between 3 to 4.5ghz. But actually, i always set it at balance mode in legion toolkit.
I have to say that from watching other reviews it really seems like Lenovo has kinda blown it with this year's laptops, at least from a fit and finish perspective. They perform great, but at these prices I have a hard time accepting them taking build quality and quality of life features away and putting them in a more expensive laptop that doesn't appear to perform any better (display aside). The Legion Slim 7i Gen 8 has all the same build quality features as last year's 7i but slower processor. Hard to choose I think.
yes, this is why I didn't even bother reviewing the Legion 7i when I got it a couple of months ago, I was so disappointed that they took so many features away this year I couldn't get the enthusiasm to review it. It is particularly bad when you realise they did this just to release an even more expensive legion 9 laptop that adds nothing really except mini LED screen and better build quality.
Well, I thought about the Slim 7 as well, but unfortunately they are so stripped down when it comes to wattage limits, that it doesn't really compete as a gaming laptop. It is something of a hybrid between a gamer and a student/office laptop that is really neither. The Non-slim is slim enough for me as it is. Not exactly a 2010 DTR laptop.
I assure you the build quality is very good. It feels like a monolithic piece in your hand.
@@lim_ra Sure, I'm not saying its bad, its just bad or lesser in build quality compared to last year's model, which I have. Looking to buy one for my wife right now, and having a hard time picking. Probably will get the 7i, because I'm not willing to sacrifice performance for a few millimeters thickness or spend another $1,000 for a metal palm rest/back and some more lighting. That screen, though. Oof. I'd love that. Not for $1,000 difference, though.
The Ryzen can be undervolted with the AMD tools or Universal x86 Tuning Utility.
last time I tested this new chip wasn't supported! Have you managed to get it working on the 7945hx?
@@MashITTech AATU was the other program.
It has to be in manual mode I think.
Granted it doesn't yield that crazy results, Intel is better with undervolting.
The software caps at -30, mine is only fully stable at -20 (although there's the single core curve optimizer when someone has the time to teast for each)
My 7945hx and 4090 should be here in uk on 6th december
not long now then! hope you enjoy it!
Anyone have the problem where when you launch a game, a USB insert noise turns on, the laptop freezes for 2 sec and then goes back to normal? Then when closing the game the USB disconnect noise pops up, freezes again for 2 sec then go back to normal again. Happens every time I open a game on steam
that's odd, what model have you got?
@@MashITTech 4090 32gb ram 2tb ssd i9 13900
@@MashITTechits not idd he talking about nvidia optimus switching to dgpu and then back, this is normal for hybrid mode, what he refers tia s usb connecting is nvidia switshing sound wich is different 😂😂
You are comparing mid range intel cpu to top end cpu you should compare 13950hx
they were only compared due to the similar price, the 13950hx was hundreds more so not fair to AMD
There's no way lenovo can leave the current tuning in place for the 7945HX. They're literally hamstringing a better machine.
Can they still change it?
@@legostarlord_ I would imagine they can through a bios update.
I have already chosen))) Legion 7i. Luxurious car. Happy as an elephant))))
niceee
kinda fishy moves from lenovo tbh
I think with a good bios update the Ryzen could perform much better, just hope Lenovo works on it 👍
Glad I watched this before I bought the Legion AMD. The AMD CPU is clearly better at lower wattage, and should utilize the GPU much better and have better battery life. That's just terrible tuning by Lenovo. No ability to tune the AMD CPU? Shocker. So, lets add it up. Lack of stock tuning, lack of tuning capability, worse battery life, and lastly a lack of auto MUX switch... just unacceptable. These are all easily fixable things. I keep wondering when the clearly superior AMD silicon will get all the bells and whistles that Intel enjoys. That's all I'm looking for. I'll cross it off my list for now. Boo.
The intel version looks like it was built for me lol The adults version of a gaming laptop. it looks pro
im so oldschool about the usb ports id have to go bluetooth for a mouse. haha
and all the active gsync on the intel. Sold.
Yeah, I love the look of the laptop and the rgb is very easy to turn off or adjust
The only thing that got to me switching from an oldschool business style home computer to a "gaming" one was the fact they literally won't sell you one without it. I was aware you could get a super precise mouse or whatever but it was always like parking lights flashing only. lol. I guess the no lights camo stuffs just for the feds. lol @@MashITTech
Thunderbolt or nothing
Usb 4 can use thunderbolt protocol. Therefore you can attach egpu or high speed docks to intel or ryzen version
I didn't Finish to watch the video but for what i know how AMD CPU Rocks in gaming.... Specially the X3D's. The choice is too obvious for me!...
I got the ryzen 4090 version delivered today. I'm glad I went with amd.
Intel are lazy sods that have been releasing pretty much the same chip year after year ripping us off.
I'm glad amd gave them the kick up the ass they needed. The ryzen chip is beast, a desktop cpu.
Got a bargain on it too. For UK prices.
All I want as a UK consumer is not to be ripped off by these manufacturers giving us inferior specs compared to the same laptops in other regions, whilst charging us the same or even more.
what you mean like the Razer blade giving an inferior keyboard in EU and UK?
No, I mean downgrades to the important stuff like CPUs, the amount of RAM or cutbacks to storage size.
It's all over the place. A North American spec will invariably be superior to the same UK version.
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And thank you as well :)
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Thank you mate :)
@@MashITTechhello sir i have question ihave legion 5 pro ryzen 7 7745hx with rtx 4070 240 hz . I watch many videos on even lower tiers laptop have kaybord rgb option on lenovo vantage . I dont have it i have only the white standard color . What can i do? And ty previously
there is nothing you can do now you have it. You need to select the RGB option when you configure the laptop. Sorry :(
Congratulations on having no life yet still having the hubris and narcissistic tendencies to believe making that 'me first' comment is some kind of real accomplishment. Anyone making 'me first' comments needs to unplug and re-prioritize their life.
Nice FAKE review, the WATTAGE CAN BE SET IN THE LENOVO SOFTWARE, means.. you lie, did intel pay you?
yes $10,000! we lie all the time
Awesome!!!!
Love your videos! Would you rather take the Legion pro 7 or the Alienware x16???
The x16 is more premium and has better speakers but at least in the UK, the Legion 7 is so much cheaper, has a much brighter screen and much better CPU performance so I would take the legion 7
Which laptop would be better to play dcs with the oculus 3 VR? The 7 8gen. Or the 7i 8 gen?
AMD seems strong and if you want some extra battery life. It would be a great option