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4:10 This and your review of Into The Breach makes me think you would be completely absorbed by Invisible Inc, that game is absolutely brutal, but completely skill based and constantly challenging you to adapt. If you are looking for a more action based equivalent, then The Swindle is an easy recommendation. Both are indie games full of style, great challenge and sheer fun that are unfortunately not well known. It would be awesome if you considered giving them a try and sharing your thoughts.
I died from falling down and to the demons who are ammo refilled because when I beat all the other big strong demons I let my guard down and they just one shot me because I liked to play games especially games like doom with the hardest difficulty. It was my foolishness for letting my guard down. I liked to find ways to kill demons with different types of weapons. The DLC was fun.
One of my favorite thing is how the Devs definitely specifically did things that broke tropes from the main game. Like when in the Slayer Gate, they make you kill the last Fodder enemy thinking you're done, only to spawn in an Archvile. I laughed out loud at that and when I saw the giant tentacle.
That reminds of a level in Doom 3. After playing several hours I was expecting an imp to spawn on the other side of a door infront of me but the bastard was hiding behind the grates to the my left.
Let me be honest with you I'm not really good at this game and play only on Hurt me plenty I died like 10 times at the boss and had a ragequit but that was a good thing cause afterwards about 5 hours later I beat it in a single try. I will definitely use this DLC to master DOOM ETERNAL, even if that means dying even more. I got myself a goal here. I will beat this on Ultra-Nightmare... eventually
@@coolawesome76 dude even I'm working on my Ultra Nightmare 100%. I barely, just barely completed UN for both the DLC and Campaign. We could assist each other via discord if you want
Honestly, I played the Game and the DLC both on "I am too young to die", because I am not that good at Doom, on a hard difficulty. I just want to have fun, and thats exactly what the DLC is. It's amazing, and even motivates me, to try a Harder difficulty, too get better on the Game, at all. Anyways, Great Video, I agree with you, the DLC is just awesome.
Let me tell you, if you ever get to Nightmare mode, it is the funnest experience I’ve had in a game yet. I literally cannot play any other mode because it doesn’t give that “holy shit” feeling that nightmare does.
I started playing this game in January 2021 on I’m Too Young To Die. I loved it so much that I’m currently playing through both DLC’s on Nightmare. I love it.
@@aceskeletonne7446 According to some of the lore theorist, and Doom guy is a shard of Davoth (The Dark Lord). Just like how Samuel Hayden is a shard of Seraphim / Vega being a shard of the Father. Which is kind of like the trinity (The Father (The Father, not even subtle), The Son (Davoth) and The Holy Spirit (Samur).) reference. But anyways, some are theorizing that the mark of the slayer given to Doom Guy is the leftover body that when The Father ripped the Dark Lord essence and leaving the physical form behind. Hence why making the original Doom Guy from a maddened and tired person, to suddenly a God Given form after the transfer process. Hence, why Doom Guy looks like the Dark Lord. But these are just educated guess.
@@aceskeletonne7446 It’s a stylistic choice to create meaning. He’s basically our Shadow the Hedgehog. They slowly escalated Doomguy‘s power level description. Doomguy is an immortal god at this point so having him face off against anyone but himself wouldn’t create tension.
as a gamer who can usually blaze through most dlcs in an evening, having to take the ancient gods one or two combat arenas at a time in one night has been so satisfying. i still havent finished it, and having a dlc that i get a good amount of time out of is refreshing.
No it doesnt im crying in bed right now and i dont know what to do with my life Just because of the spoilers because it didnt come into my mind that when i watch such a video i could get spoilerd
@@lostinspace1036 Whose butt hurt? If he thought an apology wasn't necessary I'm sure he wouldn't of given one. It's not for you to dictate what others should and shouldn't apologize for.Jeez.
This is what I really like about you and your content. I have met quite a few people in the doom community who are just rude and have a bad habit of gatekeeping. You seem to be so open to different viewpoints and understanding of them most of the time.
I think the hardcore audience is very important. But it's such a mistake to overlook the casual audience. Instead of talking down to them, we should be engaging them in conversation and showing teaching them depth.
Totally agree! It's the sad truth that all communities have toxic people. Your content is great and you genuinely care about your audience. People make mistakes and you owned up and addressed them. It's good to have discussion and debate, that's healthy. But there are always people who just want to troll or who will attack opinions they don't agree with.
From what I can understand from the codex entries, the dark lord is the “original.” I believe the quote actually says something along the lines of davoth being “so powerful that each realm could have only one.” So davoth came first and each realm has its own version of him. With that in mind, it’s possible that doom guy was specifically created by the father as a response to the demon threat because the father knew that he could never bring himself to kill the demons and davoth. I mean think about the fathers reaction to learning doomguys plan. He doesn’t get angry or upset or even protest against him, he just accepts it and allows doomguy to do what he’s gonna do, almost as if he knew this was the way it was going to eventually go down.
But that makes a plothole because Doomguy was a HUMAN and his ancestor was BJ the main charachter from Wolfenstein 3D and he's obviously a charachter. I believe he's a heroic version of Davoth.
@@deadrock1678 It's not necessarily a plothole, considering that The Father created all of existence. It's established that The Father created and maintained multiple dimensions, which could include the OG Wolfenstein/Doom universes. In fact, that would make sense in a way, as it's sorta like The Father breeding a bloodline of ultimate badasses, starting with BJ and ending with the Slayer, knowing that he would one day face off against Davoth. Rather than just create a super-weapon or an angel/demon that could kill Davoth, because we know these things *always* fail when they're made on such short notice, (Like the Doom Hunter & Marauders against the Slayer) he bred and forged the Slayer over the course of eons.
So, started from doom 1 to eternal, it was just the father forging a single human into a killing machine, not to only kill demons, but the dark lord himself
what I love about you is that not only do you speak from a skilled players perspective but you also speak from a common sense perspective that looks at the game from all angles and tries to bring an understanding as to why certain things are the way they are. You help me look at the game from a different point of view and i like that
I don’t think the people who were mad about your haters comment know what “haters” are haha or at least what you referred to. I dunno I thought it was obvious
What would be hilarious is if in part 2 there was like a whole army of possessed fodder. Easy enough, but they’re backed up by multiple heavies. So if you kill a fodder and don’t deal with the spirit, or kill TOO many fodder, those spirits will possess the heavies; it’ll mess with the usual flow of combat.
I was stubborn and continued on niighmare, not because i was too proud to lower the difficulty, but rather because i wanted to learn. For example on the final boss fight it took me two hours to finally clear the last spirit wave on the final boss. But once I learned the ballista was the best way to kill the pain elemental I was golden. I also learned tremendously faster ways to knock out heavy demons and super heavy demons, all culminating to me clearing my ultra nightmare run in just three tries!
I think that this channel is a hidden gold mine. Your points are always well researched and detailed, you seem open minded and always offer several perspectives. Also, very useful content. Subbed
I lowered the difficulty for the Extra Life Mode to UV as well, and I'll be perfectly honest, it hurt me in my "gamer honor" at first a little bit. While that's cringy as hell, I guess that's how a lot of reviewers feel when they shit on a game for "being too hard". I am now attempting Ultra-Nightmare and I already make it to the Blood Swamps on a regular basis. So keep improving and get over yourself.
I changed the difficulty from Nightmare to ITYTD at the Final Boss in my Extra-life run because I only had 6 lives and I needed to finish the the run with atleast 5 to get the trophy, and I did not trust myself to not mess it up
@@AS_974 I totally get that, the final boss is a major challenge, sometimes I feel like the enemies are a little bit too... bullet-spongey if that makes sense, they could have given us more enemies instead of 2 that just won't die, but that's just my opinion
@@Grasslehoff Bro i never changed nightmare and rage quited so hard in every of the missions because my ego is so big but I enjoyed playing it for the second time cuz I was so much better lol
3:36 i love the lock on, but tthis makes sense, i notice a "you must deal with this filosophy" in this dlc, and it makes the game even more stressfull (in the goodest way), like the fact that you don't have the coolest laser-runed sword in the universe. (I still love the lock-on, shooting all my rokets on a big evil boy it's just to fun to me) (Sorry for the bad english)
11:59 - I thought exactly the same and i loved the ending because of it. We know how powerful the Slayer is so being the Dark Lord his alter-ego... wow! This will be literally a clash of titans! Now we can speculate how we will fight him, he will be like a Totem Buffed + Spirit Possessed Marauder using his Demonic Crucible? :O
I'd say the fight will be different to that. In part 2 ID will likely have a possessed marauder along with three new enemy types introduced. The dark lord will probably be some mirrored version of you with similar weaponry. It should definitely be a sweatfest with multiple phases imo.
My worry is that the last time they tried to make an equal to the Doomslayer, they made the Marauder. And the Marauder is nowhere close to an equal. He's a coward who's only way of surviving ten seconds with the Slayer is hiding behind his shield. I hope they learned their lesson with the Marauder and create an enemy that's an actual challenge.
Great video as always. It would be interesting one day to see a video about what you personally expect from future DLC or the next game. Specific wishes for a future game, or simply ways to make the current game better.
You make such a great point about the Dark Lord's appearance. Seriously, were we expecting a mini Icon of Sin who just happens to be stronger or something? Really wouldn't hit expectations.
Ancient Gods is everything i love about Eternal. When you're good, its an effortless ballet of destruction, a symphony for which you are it conductor. When the throws something new at you, it really tests your ability to adapt. Spirits knocked me about so much that i thought they kind of ruined the experience, but when i did my Extra Life Mode run (on Too Young To Die for the achievement) i adapted my playstyle, more rockets and targeting weakpoints on non possessed to get the upper hand in case they got possessed, by the final boss the blood angels were literally just bigger makyr drones, a headshot and onto the next. the game punishes you when you don't adapt to it but its so rewarding when you do. Currently, on the nightmare, no extra lives run and just go to the blood swamps.
4:54 Oh my god, this is so true. You know how in the final stage of the final boss where you have to fight the spirit-buffed pain elemental and dread night, and that god damn respawning blood maykr? I remember when I first got up to that section. I like to play doom eternal in a very demanding yet fun way. I like making full use of the game's mechanics, staying mobile, doing unique combos on different enemies, all of that stuff. The quintessential playstyle for doom eternal, the way the designers intended it to be played. So as soon as I got up to this fight, I was firing on all cylinders. I was meathook slinging, I was minigun shielding, I was quickswapping, I was trying to use faltering mechanics, I was blood punching, but no matter how much abuse I put that pain elemental through, he just didn't care. He just kept killing me. With his jittery dodging and machine gun lost souls. I felt like I just wasn't strong enough or fast enough to have a chance. I spent 2 hours on that section before I just gave up. They had broken me. Have the devs pushed it too far? I thought. Have they actually just made something that was straight-up un-fun and unfair? I decided to sleep on it. The next day I wondered if other people were having the same issue. And that's when I found your video on how to deal with spirits, and I had to re-adjust my whole strategy. I couldn't just brute-force my way through this fight on nightmare, but I was too stubborn to decrease the difficulty. And I'm glad I didn't, because once I finally managed to beat it, the amount of satisfaction I felt was so immense that it completely changed my view of the fight itself. Sure, it does kinda force you to play like a lil bitch with lock-on rockets, quickscoping, and scrambling for resources on the ground, which isn't really all that fun, but looking back I was glad that it I experienced it. Such a unique fight that invoked such a wide range of emotions, more mentally impactful of a gameplay experience than I've had in a while. They threw us such a huge curveball with this dlc, both in gameplay and lore, and looking back now I couldn't have asked for anything better out of it.
Nightmare purist here- not only did the DLC at first get me to switch down to UV, it also taught me more about the various weapons in the game, like how powerful microwave stun is, how big the concussion radius is on grenades, how effective grenades are at opening Marauders up, how much damage the chaingun shield actually absorbs, and most importantly: how much of a DPS boost powerswapping your weapons is. Like seriously, I knew it was good on account of the 2016 SSG, but beyond the old Marauder stunlock, I never did it. Its crazy how much you can learn if you accept that it's just a little bit your fault if you're on the back foot all the time. Also, love your delivery. Definitely gonna stick around to see what you do next.
I completely agree with that comment you shared in the video, and I was so excited to struggle and try harder in the dlc, doom eternal may be 10/10 but if that's true, the dlc is 11/10 then..
this DLC pounded me out on Ultra Violence, i enjoyed every second of it. I eagerly await to play through on Nightmare, and i cannot wait for chapter 2!
I loved the DLC it was a big challenge for me (I completed the base game on UV in extra life mode and it felt great) and The Ancient Gods was a new experience going back to DOOM Eternal and I was surprised how much I've improved since the game was launched. Your videos have helped me become a better player and I hope one day I can take on Nightmare and UN. Greetings from México :D
3:20 Totally agree. I can't get enough of the slippery lil' sweethearts. The only part that really, really aggravated me was the very final phase of the last boss. But I came back with the advice I, admittedly, not so politely asked for, and beat it the first time after I dived back in. I did it all on Nightmare and I didn't lower the difficulty once, but next time, maybe I will. Or just keep trying on my own next time. That whole fight felt like a Cuphead boss and I actually adore that fight. My favourite in the whole game so far, it's everything I ask for in a good boss.
Just finished tAGpt1. By the end of it, I LOVE spirits! I think they're a fantastic addition and add a lot more dynamics to the combat. Also, the huge emphasis on precision shots (makyr drones, blood angels, turrets, eyeballs) has made me a lot more accurate, and I found myself hitting shots more consistently by the end of my first playthrough. Bumping up the difficulty was such a good decision!
Seeing Evil Doomguy as The Dark Lord gave me the idea that its going to be like Dante Vs Vergil. Facing your evil twin, your other half with very similar abilities but used differently. So this can almost be like Doomguy vs Doomslayer
I love his inputs on everything he points out the one with the difficulty stuck out to me because I am still new to first person shooters and DOOM 2016 was the first one I've ever played and actively got good at. I was excited for DOOM Eternal and it went way past my expectations because of it's challenging mechanics I'm still not good at FPS games so I play on the easiest difficulty and when I feel comfortable I attempt the harder ones hoping to see how I may improve
I really appreciate that you're willing to help people who are having troubles enjoying the game while at the same time taking no shit from entitled assholes who think things should always go their way.
The reason the Dark Lord is Doomguy is very simple, Vega puts it in the most eloquent way. The Dark Lord is not a king, he’s hell’s fiercest warrior, the one the demons fear the most. The only thing they fear is you.
On the subject of the Dark Lord, you took the words right out of my mouth. Cheesy? Yeah, but impactful? Definitely, way more then it would have been if it were just some random big demon with claws or horns.
Having to microwave the spirits and limiting your mobility during a fight is like a different spin on the purple goo. Both slow your movement down, and makes me think of the first time fighting the arachnotron in the goo, desperately trying to figure out how to deal damage quick instead of dashing to safety.
I think that the best thing the old gods did for me was train me. Ultra violence on the base game use to be damn near impossible. But after getting bent over in the old gods I’m flying through the base levels.
I paused the video at 2:40 just so I could come comment. "Mayo is a big meanie. Put some neosporin on that booboo" might be my favorite thing you've said so far. 😂😂
you know, one thing that I would love to see is a Doom game that is just like Eternal, but has the movement mechanics of Titanfall 2, like the wall running, physics and just overall the exact same kinda movement you have as a pilot in that game. ID Software created the Doom Slayer to be more acrobatic and agile, like using the monkey bars, but I felt like he was a little too slow for a god of rage, speed and strength, but imagine if they copied the exact type of movement mechanics and physics in Titanfall 2 where the Doom Slayer could run, slide on the ground, wall run, double jump and boost just like a pilot, I think that would be the coolest thing ever and really add to the Doom Slayer's agility, speed and acrobatic skills. I mean, keep the double dash, double jump and all of that, but add in the aspects and types of movement in Titanfall 2, and I think that Doom game would add to it a whole lot more and make it that much more thrilling and enjoyable and the gameplay would get a whole lot more interesting with world building, platform strategies and having to fight demons in a way to where you're flying in the air and shooting. You know how in the multiplayer of Titanfall 2, there's different types of pilots, one of them being grapple? Well, imagine if the Doom Slayer could use the meat hook on his super shotgun not just to grapple onto demons, but also anywhere on the map, like if he needs to get up somewhere super high, he could use the meat hook and shoot it into a wall or something like that and pull himself up with it, just like the grapple pilot, now that would add a whole lot to the gameplay and make it feel almost brand new and a lot more fun. I'm sure we aren't gonna get a game like that unless indie game creators made it or if ID Software actually reads this comment and thinks, "this ain't a bad idea" and created a new Doom game with Titanfall 2-esque, super mobile, crazy movement mechanics.
A good way to think of the speed of a game Mayo, is to think of the Interactions per minute (IPM). If APM is how many keys you pressed in a minute, IPM is how many conscious decisions did you make per minute, for example swapping to a new gun, changing target, getting a overview of the arena, checking your behind etc. Halo is a good example, because they did not really lower the APM in shooters, only from the removal of bunny jumping, but the 2 weapon limit and the recharging health, means you have to make less decisions. It is how i explain that some card games like Tongue can be high intensity even though all actions are just moving pieces of paper around.
I play on "hurt me plenty", it's challenging enough for me There are aliens out there, it's ok if i'm not one of them There are other challenging games in my steam library
Gotta agree on what I like to describe as an “initial knee-jerk reaction”; playing the DLC for the first time on Nightmare was like hitting a brick wall at full speed, and this is coming from someone who has completed all master levels on Nightmare with no deaths and superweapons and also completed UNM. Ngl I was immensely salty that I was getting my ass handed a few times and just stopped playing for a while. But then when I really reflected on what went wrong and thought about who the DLC is meant for, I went back to play the DLC again to finish it and then also to replay levels to develop strategies. Now I can say with some confidence that I can reliably clear Blood Swamps on Nightmare with no deaths, although I can use some more practice for certain sections. I still despise the foggy arena and the arena with 1 million Barons with a possessed Baron though (and in my opinion the whole DLC will be better without those two arenas), the rest I’ve found to be really tough but the good kind of tough and the kind of tough I don’t mind going through again. I might change my opinion on those two arenas as I get better though.
So, I don't know if you agree with me or not, but I'm slightly concerned about id software's new obsession with opening based enemies. The Marauder 's inclusion was a very good idea. But after 7 playthroughs on nightmare I came to the conclusion that I don' t want more of his kind. Here's why: The marauder isn't a bad enemy, but he's not good enough. Unlike the rest of the game which represents a perfect puzzle/dance which is very noticable, the marauder is not a puzzle. The problem I have with him is that, the player doesn't create the opening, but he has to WAIT for the opening. And since the Marauder's AI is not as smart as other enemies like Caracas and Whiplash (the marauder getting stuck to the wall while running, standing in one place and dashing left and right instead of running and attacking while in the right range, being intrupted by projectoyles etc.), their attack pattern is random. So basically, their opening is almost random. Why do I expect the opening to be more based on the players skill rather than random? Because I have seen a better enemy in another game that reminds me of the Marauder: the Fury in DMC5. Furies have certain attack patterns and can be learned. Besides, it's up to the player to make an opening with their skill, experience and domination over the combat system. What does the marauder do instead? Run towards me with me keeping distance and dodging his axe and waiting for an almost random opening. It's not hard or challenging. It's boring. There's another reason for me to think the marauder needs improvements: the DOOM Hunters. One of my favorite enemies. (in fact, all the non-boss enemies in Doom eternal are my favorite. I hate all of the boss fights excluding the Doom hunters.) the Doom hunters have strength and weakness points and their inclusion in a fight makes the game a better experience because they give a feeling a puzzle/dance to the game and make the player *think* and question their next moves. Use the plasma rifle to disable their shields but also be careful because their projectiles are fast. Use the blood punch to deal damage to their hovering part but be careful of their melee attack etc. You know better. The Doom hunters and almost any other enemy in Doom eternal makes you *think, makes hundreds of choices and be fast* and mobile. What does the Marauder do? Makes you run and wait for an opening which is, kinda boring. I was saying that id software's new obsession with this kind of enemies concerns me; Because of the inclusion of the Blood Maykrs, since they have the same issue of their opening being random. And the Gladiator too which sufferes from the same issue. I don't want id software to do *more* of these kind of enemies. I want them to make *better* of them instead because they can. I know you disagree with me for the most part, but thanks for reading my comment. I'm looking forward to your future content. P.S. Boss fight rant. Ignore this part: the Gladiator is trash. The Khan Maykr boss fight is trash too. Why is 75% of the ground always an fire? What's the point? I know they were looking for ways to make it more challenging... But why like this? Common. The final Boss is lame. Spawns random demons and, overall boring. Why isn't it a little more scripted and a little more skill based? I'm a fairly good player and always play on Nightmare, but it seriously could've been less random and more scripted so it can be more interesting to fight against. Edit: it's been 6 months since I wrote this comment. I have a better understanding of the enemies now. So I see them a little more differently. My opinion hasn't changed though, but I have a lot better understanding of how the enemies behave and what issues they have.
I actually like the Gladiator because he doesn’t just whip his shield around magically to block hitscan weapons the way that the Marauder does. If the Gladiator does a big swing and lowers his shield, you can dash to his side and unload on him no problem. The problem I have with the Marauder is that he just magically blocks *everything* even if it looks like he’s open. He should either take chip damage when he puts his shield down or he should never put his shield down outside of his parry attacks so you know exactly what’s going on. Also, yeah, Furies are handled much better than Marauders for sure. I feel like I can actually stay aggressive against a Fury once I know what to look for from them, while Marauders force you to play their game. Blood Makyrs do as well, but I actually mind them less because they at least properly telegraph their shield and they go down in a single Ballista shot.
@@Prankmeister1990 unfortunately, all of slayer's moves are bound to framerate. So people with powerful PCs can easily dodge his attacks. I can't. On 60fps or lower, his attacks are undodgable. I always have to save 3 or 4 extra lives for the gladiator but I can beat the final boss in 1 run without dying.
I’d really like to see a nee Super Heavy Demon in Ancient Gods 2. I’m thinking they could incorporate the Hell Guard boss from Doom 2016, like how the Cyberdemon boss became the Tyrant. It would fit the story as well, as the Hell Guards could be introduced as some kind of honour guard for the Dark Lord.
I would like to see marauders included in fights with other heavy pressure units like hell knights, dread knights, and barons in larger arenas as well as supporting units like mancubi and arachnotrons... I think setting up a marauder with a baron or 2 and support units in a mid sized arena would be something else...
So glad to see that I was not the only one who lowered the difficulty from nightmare to ultra violence. Ancient Gods part 1 has made me a better player.
I think the father trusts Doomguy, and has trust and faith in him. He's wise, and wants to make sure that Doomguy knows what his actions will do later on. He understands his goals, so he won't interfere.
Usually the dark shadow version of the hero trope is played out but I think it makes perfect sense here. We’ve built up the Slayer as this unstoppable force that the only thing that could ever believably be on his level is himself.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels exhausted by the level length and intensity. It's part of the reason that I love Nekrevol I and II--they're intense, but split in half so I can just play one to get my fix or to warm up, and then keep going. But I don't have invest 90 minutes of my life. I do have papers to grade from time to time, see...
I really appreciate your take on this stuff. I had to drop the difficulty down halfway through my first playthrough and, honestly, I was just pleased I had got that far before I did. I loved the DLC, but hate the Blood Makyrs 😂 What was really cool is that I've been doing a UV run in Extra Life mode (my skill level isn't ready for nightmare) and when I went back to it after playing the DLC I felt like I was playing better, the improvement was tangible. It makes me want to stick with it and get that gold skin eventually!
I had no problem with your original video I personally don't think you needed to apologize but good for you for doing it anyways I like when content creators listen to there fans regardless. Also I didn't once think that when you said doom haters you were lumping everyone in including people that just disagree here and there and if people felt that way they should read or "listen" between the lines and understand that lol love your content bro keep it up
I usually just lower the difficulty to Ultra violence to have "fun" as opposed to feeling like my blood pressure is permanently through the roof the whole god damn time. Didn't stop me from doing my first playthrough on Nightmare (It took me three days, not including the last boss, who I had to turn the difficulty down for because I had no idea how to approach dealing with 2 spirits and a blood angel. Also fuck that boss fight), but there's no shame in turning the difficulty down to help you master it. Matter of fact, all the encounters aren't nearly as tough once you know what demons spawn and who you're priority targets are.
I played my first run through on nightmare, and I stuck with it. I busted my ass to get through some fights, sometimes taking half an hour for a fight. I’m proud that I improved enough to complete a challenge, only to have another to test me. And I did this while depressed after a break up. The moral I guess is just keep trying and eventually it will click and you’ll beat that arena.
As a casual gamer who had recently beat Doom Eternal on Nightmare, I was glad I dropped the difficulty on on the DLC and Played on UV. This DLC was a welcome challenge. I even had to drop the difficulty to HMP on the last parts of the last level. This game put me in Mayo's fun zone and I became a better player. I'll continue on through the game and try to beat it on UV in it entirety.
The way i feel about the spirits and blood maykr is that the objective of them is to make you better at fast reacting and dealing with the unusual circumstances that they have to be killed in and integrating it in your playstyle and flow of combat, if you are ignoring them they will mess you up really bad
The one thing I found really stressful with the DLC is that the increase in enemies stresses my GPU to the point that the game stutters a lot, which breaks my focus and kills my flow. I'm planning to pick up an RTX 3070 when that comes out, but for now my GTX 970 just can't deal with it efficiently enough
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I'm here first. And day 2 of asking you to play gyro with doom eternal
First time playing doom I put it on nightmare I refuse to lower difficulty till I beat the game no matter how much I die
Hey you never answered how ancient the gods are???
4:10 This and your review of Into The Breach makes me think you would be completely absorbed by Invisible Inc, that game is absolutely brutal, but completely skill based and constantly challenging you to adapt. If you are looking for a more action based equivalent, then The Swindle is an easy recommendation. Both are indie games full of style, great challenge and sheer fun that are unfortunately not well known. It would be awesome if you considered giving them a try and sharing your thoughts.
I died from falling down and to the demons who are ammo refilled because when I beat all the other big strong demons I let my guard down and they just one shot me because I liked to play games especially games like doom with the hardest difficulty. It was my foolishness for letting my guard down. I liked to find ways to kill demons with different types of weapons. The DLC was fun.
"we didn't see a lot of this new enemy" well she is invisible you wouldn't see her anyway
There's a new note on the Tentacle lore page: "Tentacles can sometimes be very big." 😂
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@JapaneseGiant Lizard1234 Mojo the Gigantic Tentacle 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👌
I think that was in it before
Ah yes, the nightmare for Watchmojo.
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Huh, I guess that cut Quake 3 Doomguy line fits now.
“The only one that can really beat me, is me.”
Since Q3 Doom was such an edgelord are we considering him canon Dark Lord?
@@daskmorn No
@@daskmorn The dark lord did actually speak in the DLC, and he sounded like King Novik with throat infection. We can’t take the Q3 doom guy then
One of my favorite thing is how the Devs definitely specifically did things that broke tropes from the main game. Like when in the Slayer Gate, they make you kill the last Fodder enemy thinking you're done, only to spawn in an Archvile. I laughed out loud at that and when I saw the giant tentacle.
I don't know, the Slayer Gates actually felt tame compared to the DLC or even base Slayer gate. Just feels weird.
That reminds of a level in Doom 3. After playing several hours I was expecting an imp to spawn on the other side of a door infront of me but the bastard was hiding behind the grates to the my left.
@@rayyanali4471 if you shine the flashlight at it from another room you can reveal its position, I know exactly which imp that one is
@@Death_Chopper I think this was from Ressurection of Evil. But they did include all sorts of trickery even in the base game.
@@rayyanali4471 yeah I was thinking of another encounter in base doom 3
Let me be honest with you
I'm not really good at this game and play only on Hurt me plenty
I died like 10 times at the boss and had a ragequit but that was a good thing cause afterwards about 5 hours later I beat it in a single try.
I will definitely use this DLC to master DOOM ETERNAL, even if that means dying even more.
I got myself a goal here.
I will beat this on Ultra-Nightmare... eventually
Ragequitting is totally fine. I've rage quitted games for an entire week before. Came back to it with a fresh mind and saw the light.
If you are motivated enough to accomplish Ultra-Nightmare, then you can do it. It is all a matter of time and determination. Practice is key
Doom Eternal feels like Buddhism. You eventually get better and see every single opening to every problem, even life.
i tried doing the main campaign on ultra-nightmare and i died, a lot. i need some tips for the first level of the campaign
@@coolawesome76 dude even I'm working on my Ultra Nightmare 100%. I barely, just barely completed UN for both the DLC and Campaign.
We could assist each other via discord if you want
"Mojo the tentacle" I didn't understand it at first, but then I understood. Lmao
Sorry I don't get
Perfect name 😂😂😂
another name being debated was upper mojo.
@JapaneseGiant Lizard1234 🤣🤣🤣🤣😭😭😭🤣🤣🤣🤣👍👌
At first I got Mojo and Motto Motto mixed up. But now that I understand the joke it'll keep me laughing twice as hard
Honestly, I played the Game and the DLC both on "I am too young to die", because I am not that good at Doom, on a hard difficulty. I just want to have fun, and thats exactly what the DLC is. It's amazing, and even motivates me, to try a Harder difficulty, too get better on the Game, at all.
Anyways, Great Video, I agree with you, the DLC is just awesome.
Yeah this is one of the few games to me that makes u feel like u should keep trying harder difficulties.
Let me tell you, if you ever get to Nightmare mode, it is the funnest experience I’ve had in a game yet. I literally cannot play any other mode because it doesn’t give that “holy shit” feeling that nightmare does.
I started playing this game in January 2021 on I’m Too Young To Die. I loved it so much that I’m currently playing through both DLC’s on Nightmare. I love it.
Personallly, I like that the spirits provide a sort of miniboss. Changes your prioritization around to keep things interesting and challenging.
2:38 That transition was pretty smooth Mayo
Not multiverse. It was confirmed by Hugo Martin himself on ByteMe's stream.
@Ice Yeah. The dark lord is not a multiverse version of Doomguy.
I thought it was that the dark lord could pick any physical form he wanted so he picked the most powerful one in the universe being that of doomguy
So it is more likely a bamboozle
@@aceskeletonne7446 According to some of the lore theorist, and Doom guy is a shard of Davoth (The Dark Lord). Just like how Samuel Hayden is a shard of Seraphim / Vega being a shard of the Father.
Which is kind of like the trinity (The Father (The Father, not even subtle), The Son (Davoth) and The Holy Spirit (Samur).) reference.
But anyways, some are theorizing that the mark of the slayer given to Doom Guy is the leftover body that when The Father ripped the Dark Lord essence and leaving the physical form behind. Hence why making the original Doom Guy from a maddened and tired person, to suddenly a God Given form after the transfer process. Hence, why Doom Guy looks like the Dark Lord.
But these are just educated guess.
@@aceskeletonne7446 It’s a stylistic choice to create meaning. He’s basically our Shadow the Hedgehog.
They slowly escalated Doomguy‘s power level description. Doomguy is an immortal god at this point so having him face off against anyone but himself wouldn’t create tension.
Guys, just imagine:
*Blood swamps master level*
Originally I thought the final scene master level would be insane, but after playing the blood Swan‘s logo I feel differently
@@Donut6975, the Atlantic’s Facility alone would be a more insane Master Level than the Final Sin Master Level.
Mostly doable, but I fear the remixed fight in the fog. OH GOD.
Possesed Marauders 0.0
There is a holt master level in the making, and it has 10 marauders in the blood punch mayhem where there are those pinkies
as a gamer who can usually blaze through most dlcs in an evening, having to take the ancient gods one or two combat arenas at a time in one night has been so satisfying. i still havent finished it, and having a dlc that i get a good amount of time out of is refreshing.
The genuine apology does make up for it in my eyes.
I can only hope. I honestly felt pretty bad about it.
@@HK-07 He was talking about the spoilers. I don't think mayo feels bad about offending some people
Sorry you're butthurt, he gave an apology that i don't think he should have.
No it doesnt im crying in bed right now and i dont know what to do with my life
Just because of the spoilers because it didnt come into my mind that when i watch such a video i could get spoilerd
@@lostinspace1036 Whose butt hurt? If he thought an apology wasn't necessary I'm sure he wouldn't of given one. It's not for you to dictate what others should and shouldn't apologize for.Jeez.
This is what I really like about you and your content. I have met quite a few people in the doom community who are just rude and have a bad habit of gatekeeping. You seem to be so open to different viewpoints and understanding of them most of the time.
I think the hardcore audience is very important. But it's such a mistake to overlook the casual audience. Instead of talking down to them, we should be engaging them in conversation and showing teaching them depth.
Totally agree! It's the sad truth that all communities have toxic people. Your content is great and you genuinely care about your audience. People make mistakes and you owned up and addressed them. It's good to have discussion and debate, that's healthy. But there are always people who just want to troll or who will attack opinions they don't agree with.
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From what I can understand from the codex entries, the dark lord is the “original.” I believe the quote actually says something along the lines of davoth being “so powerful that each realm could have only one.” So davoth came first and each realm has its own version of him. With that in mind, it’s possible that doom guy was specifically created by the father as a response to the demon threat because the father knew that he could never bring himself to kill the demons and davoth. I mean think about the fathers reaction to learning doomguys plan. He doesn’t get angry or upset or even protest against him, he just accepts it and allows doomguy to do what he’s gonna do, almost as if he knew this was the way it was going to eventually go down.
But that makes a plothole because Doomguy was a HUMAN and his ancestor was BJ the main charachter from Wolfenstein 3D and he's obviously a charachter. I believe he's a heroic version of Davoth.
@@deadrock1678 It's not necessarily a plothole, considering that The Father created all of existence. It's established that The Father created and maintained multiple dimensions, which could include the OG Wolfenstein/Doom universes. In fact, that would make sense in a way, as it's sorta like The Father breeding a bloodline of ultimate badasses, starting with BJ and ending with the Slayer, knowing that he would one day face off against Davoth. Rather than just create a super-weapon or an angel/demon that could kill Davoth, because we know these things *always* fail when they're made on such short notice, (Like the Doom Hunter & Marauders against the Slayer) he bred and forged the Slayer over the course of eons.
@@LP-PADICIA Dude, I think you're truly onto something here, badass theory, ya earned my like my dude! 😎👍
NUTCool The divinity machine basically made him a god
So, started from doom 1 to eternal, it was just the father forging a single human into a killing machine, not to only kill demons, but the dark lord himself
That ending takes the line "The only thing they fear, is you" to another level
what I love about you is that not only do you speak from a skilled players perspective but you also speak from a common sense perspective that looks at the game from all angles and tries to bring an understanding as to why certain things are the way they are. You help me look at the game from a different point of view and i like that
I don’t think the people who were mad about your haters comment know what “haters” are haha or at least what you referred to. I dunno I thought it was obvious
I'm amazed daily at how much stuff isn't obvious to some people. I hope it's clear now though.
@@underthemayo oh yeah definitely. That one wasn’t on you ofc just those few people who didn’t pick that up
@@underthemayo yeah, people can't take joke calmly and start shitposting in your twitter... people really are soft these days...
Hoi Olly
@@DarthSateus eyyy
What would be hilarious is if in part 2 there was like a whole army of possessed fodder. Easy enough, but they’re backed up by multiple heavies. So if you kill a fodder and don’t deal with the spirit, or kill TOO many fodder, those spirits will possess the heavies; it’ll mess with the usual flow of combat.
That is brilliant. Downright sadistic as hell, but brilliant.
pretty cool idea
Shouldn't you be fighting Doomguy?
Since you are the Dark Lord?
@@YourLocalMairaaboo u do more than just 1 thing in the dlc
@@martinstenevebenstad8208 that was a doomified "Thanks Satan." meme.
After beating this DLC 5 times
(UV once, nightmare 3 times, and UN once) this describes my feelings about it perfectly
I was stubborn and continued on niighmare, not because i was too proud to lower the difficulty, but rather because i wanted to learn. For example on the final boss fight it took me two hours to finally clear the last spirit wave on the final boss. But once I learned the ballista was the best way to kill the pain elemental I was golden. I also learned tremendously faster ways to knock out heavy demons and super heavy demons, all culminating to me clearing my ultra nightmare run in just three tries!
I think that this channel is a hidden gold mine. Your points are always well researched and detailed, you seem open minded and always offer several perspectives. Also, very useful content.
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I lowered the difficulty for the Extra Life Mode to UV as well, and I'll be perfectly honest, it hurt me in my "gamer honor" at first a little bit. While that's cringy as hell, I guess that's how a lot of reviewers feel when they shit on a game for "being too hard". I am now attempting Ultra-Nightmare and I already make it to the Blood Swamps on a regular basis. So keep improving and get over yourself.
It's a great feeling.
I changed the difficulty from Nightmare to ITYTD at the Final Boss in my Extra-life run because I only had 6 lives and I needed to finish the the run with atleast 5 to get the trophy, and I did not trust myself to not mess it up
@@AS_974 I totally get that, the final boss is a major challenge, sometimes I feel like the enemies are a little bit too... bullet-spongey if that makes sense, they could have given us more enemies instead of 2 that just won't die, but that's just my opinion
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Bro i never changed nightmare and rage quited so hard in every of the missions because my ego is so big but I enjoyed playing it for the second time cuz I was so much better lol
@@underthemayo Mtn dew
About time dude, iv bin waiting for this vid since release of dlc. Haven't watched it yet, I know it will be good. Thanx again
Thanks for the correction.
Mayo always make such good points in every video
3:36 i love the lock on, but tthis makes sense, i notice a "you must deal with this filosophy" in this dlc, and it makes the game even more stressfull (in the goodest way), like the fact that you don't have the coolest laser-runed sword in the universe.
(I still love the lock-on, shooting all my rokets on a big evil boy it's just to fun to me)
(Sorry for the bad english)
Mayo you are the man, love your content
11:59 - I thought exactly the same and i loved the ending because of it. We know how powerful the Slayer is so being the Dark Lord his alter-ego... wow! This will be literally a clash of titans! Now we can speculate how we will fight him, he will be like a Totem Buffed + Spirit Possessed Marauder using his Demonic Crucible? :O
I'd say the fight will be different to that. In part 2 ID will likely have a possessed marauder along with three new enemy types introduced. The dark lord will probably be some mirrored version of you with similar weaponry. It should definitely be a sweatfest with multiple phases imo.
My worry is that the last time they tried to make an equal to the Doomslayer, they made the Marauder. And the Marauder is nowhere close to an equal. He's a coward who's only way of surviving ten seconds with the Slayer is hiding behind his shield. I hope they learned their lesson with the Marauder and create an enemy that's an actual challenge.
@@YouthRightsRadical well they didnt lol
Damn your gameplay has gotten so clean. I need to take notes haha.
Love how watching you has got my doing ultra nightmare, mostly to get my shit pushed in. In the first 2 levels but hey gotta start somewhere
Great video as always.
It would be interesting one day to see a video about what you personally expect from future DLC or the next game. Specific wishes for a future game, or simply ways to make the current game better.
I will. I have a video on what doom could be do to be better. And I'll do another before the next dlc.
Doom players are terrifying. “The tentacles placement caught me off guard, I love it”
You make such a great point about the Dark Lord's appearance. Seriously, were we expecting a mini Icon of Sin who just happens to be stronger or something? Really wouldn't hit expectations.
Just finished the game. Holy crap the dark lord thing was frickin amazing. I’m so happy
Imagine ID software actually watched this video and made a level that only has whiplash and tentacles
Great video. Glad to see the channel growing Mayo
Ancient Gods is everything i love about Eternal. When you're good, its an effortless ballet of destruction, a symphony for which you are it conductor. When the throws something new at you, it really tests your ability to adapt. Spirits knocked me about so much that i thought they kind of ruined the experience, but when i did my Extra Life Mode run (on Too Young To Die for the achievement) i adapted my playstyle, more rockets and targeting weakpoints on non possessed to get the upper hand in case they got possessed, by the final boss the blood angels were literally just bigger makyr drones, a headshot and onto the next. the game punishes you when you don't adapt to it but its so rewarding when you do.
Currently, on the nightmare, no extra lives run and just go to the blood swamps.
Mayo great video! I’m doing my first UN run and I’m on the blood swamps. Making progress!
4:54 Oh my god, this is so true.
You know how in the final stage of the final boss where you have to fight the spirit-buffed pain elemental and dread night, and that god damn respawning blood maykr? I remember when I first got up to that section. I like to play doom eternal in a very demanding yet fun way. I like making full use of the game's mechanics, staying mobile, doing unique combos on different enemies, all of that stuff. The quintessential playstyle for doom eternal, the way the designers intended it to be played. So as soon as I got up to this fight, I was firing on all cylinders. I was meathook slinging, I was minigun shielding, I was quickswapping, I was trying to use faltering mechanics, I was blood punching, but no matter how much abuse I put that pain elemental through, he just didn't care. He just kept killing me. With his jittery dodging and machine gun lost souls. I felt like I just wasn't strong enough or fast enough to have a chance. I spent 2 hours on that section before I just gave up. They had broken me. Have the devs pushed it too far? I thought. Have they actually just made something that was straight-up un-fun and unfair?
I decided to sleep on it. The next day I wondered if other people were having the same issue. And that's when I found your video on how to deal with spirits, and I had to re-adjust my whole strategy. I couldn't just brute-force my way through this fight on nightmare, but I was too stubborn to decrease the difficulty. And I'm glad I didn't, because once I finally managed to beat it, the amount of satisfaction I felt was so immense that it completely changed my view of the fight itself. Sure, it does kinda force you to play like a lil bitch with lock-on rockets, quickscoping, and scrambling for resources on the ground, which isn't really all that fun, but looking back I was glad that it I experienced it. Such a unique fight that invoked such a wide range of emotions, more mentally impactful of a gameplay experience than I've had in a while. They threw us such a huge curveball with this dlc, both in gameplay and lore, and looking back now I couldn't have asked for anything better out of it.
mtn dew
haha microwave beam go brr
saved me a half hour of blood boiling rage when i finally decided to actually use it
Nightmare purist here- not only did the DLC at first get me to switch down to UV, it also taught me more about the various weapons in the game, like how powerful microwave stun is, how big the concussion radius is on grenades, how effective grenades are at opening Marauders up, how much damage the chaingun shield actually absorbs, and most importantly: how much of a DPS boost powerswapping your weapons is. Like seriously, I knew it was good on account of the 2016 SSG, but beyond the old Marauder stunlock, I never did it. Its crazy how much you can learn if you accept that it's just a little bit your fault if you're on the back foot all the time.
Also, love your delivery. Definitely gonna stick around to see what you do next.
Yeah this DLC goes in really deep on that stuff it's really cool. It's made for the people who wanna get into the real systems.
Mayo, you're channel is great and I love hearing your opinions. Keep up the good work!
I completely agree with that comment you shared in the video, and I was so excited to struggle and try harder in the dlc, doom eternal may be 10/10 but if that's true, the dlc is 11/10 then..
"I'm not sure how it'll affect the replay value. I've played through the DLC four times now-"
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
0:31 - yup, that's exactly how it is kolego :)
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I love your videos I will probably love this one too!
According to Hugo the dark lord literally just looks like the slayer, no other correlation
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@@MtnDew4828 Stewart Werner
"He'll take form if you do this" - Intern guy
Imagine if the dlc threw two buffed and possessed marauders at you
This dlc finaly makes me use the plasma beam like every other mod
This DLC made me accept sentinel armor for the first time, I love it.
this DLC pounded me out on Ultra Violence, i enjoyed every second of it. I eagerly await to play through on Nightmare, and i cannot wait for chapter 2!
I loved the DLC it was a big challenge for me (I completed the base game on UV in extra life mode and it felt great) and The Ancient Gods was a new experience going back to DOOM Eternal and I was surprised how much I've improved since the game was launched. Your videos have helped me become a better player and I hope one day I can take on Nightmare and UN. Greetings from México :D
3:20 Totally agree. I can't get enough of the slippery lil' sweethearts.
The only part that really, really aggravated me was the very final phase of the last boss. But I came back with the advice I, admittedly, not so politely asked for, and beat it the first time after I dived back in. I did it all on Nightmare and I didn't lower the difficulty once, but next time, maybe I will. Or just keep trying on my own next time. That whole fight felt like a Cuphead boss and I actually adore that fight. My favourite in the whole game so far, it's everything I ask for in a good boss.
Just finished tAGpt1. By the end of it, I LOVE spirits! I think they're a fantastic addition and add a lot more dynamics to the combat. Also, the huge emphasis on precision shots (makyr drones, blood angels, turrets, eyeballs) has made me a lot more accurate, and I found myself hitting shots more consistently by the end of my first playthrough. Bumping up the difficulty was such a good decision!
"Love the tentacle placement". Oh, he's a madman
Seeing Evil Doomguy as The Dark Lord gave me the idea that its going to be like Dante Vs Vergil. Facing your evil twin, your other half with very similar abilities but used differently. So this can almost be like Doomguy vs Doomslayer
I got good at the marauder thanks to you.
I beat the double marauder in like 4 tries, and that was like my 2nd/3rd time fighting marauders.
and here me changing the difficulty from hurt me plenty to im to young to die as soon as i saw the two marauders
Me watching the gameplay:
Wait, you can chainsaw tentacles!?
Oh god. They're going to do it for the next part, aren't they?
A Double spirit Marauder fight...
i love your videos man, keep up the good work
I love his inputs on everything he points out the one with the difficulty stuck out to me because I am still new to first person shooters and DOOM 2016 was the first one I've ever played and actively got good at. I was excited for DOOM Eternal and it went way past my expectations because of it's challenging mechanics I'm still not good at FPS games so I play on the easiest difficulty and when I feel comfortable I attempt the harder ones hoping to see how I may improve
2:30 I didn't know you could chainsaw tentacles lol
I really appreciate that you're willing to help people who are having troubles enjoying the game while at the same time taking no shit from entitled assholes who think things should always go their way.
I loved it! At first I hated the blood Maykr because of his invincibility but now I see him as just an ammo box
The reason the Dark Lord is Doomguy is very simple, Vega puts it in the most eloquent way. The Dark Lord is not a king, he’s hell’s fiercest warrior, the one the demons fear the most. The only thing they fear is you.
Great video. Waiting for your ultra nightmare video now 🙏
Ancient gods: **Hard**
Mayo: ''Joke's on you I'm into that shit'
On the subject of the Dark Lord, you took the words right out of my mouth. Cheesy? Yeah, but impactful? Definitely, way more then it would have been if it were just some random big demon with claws or horns.
Having to microwave the spirits and limiting your mobility during a fight is like a different spin on the purple goo. Both slow your movement down, and makes me think of the first time fighting the arachnotron in the goo, desperately trying to figure out how to deal damage quick instead of dashing to safety.
Mayo you’re a good human being and a good reviewer
I think that the best thing the old gods did for me was train me. Ultra violence on the base game use to be damn near impossible. But after getting bent over in the old gods I’m flying through the base levels.
I really hope the Dark Lord fight is Eternal's version of the fight with Jakob in Dusk
I paused the video at 2:40 just so I could come comment.
"Mayo is a big meanie. Put some neosporin on that booboo" might be my favorite thing you've said so far. 😂😂
you know, one thing that I would love to see is a Doom game that is just like Eternal, but has the movement mechanics of Titanfall 2, like the wall running, physics and just overall the exact same kinda movement you have as a pilot in that game. ID Software created the Doom Slayer to be more acrobatic and agile, like using the monkey bars, but I felt like he was a little too slow for a god of rage, speed and strength, but imagine if they copied the exact type of movement mechanics and physics in Titanfall 2 where the Doom Slayer could run, slide on the ground, wall run, double jump and boost just like a pilot, I think that would be the coolest thing ever and really add to the Doom Slayer's agility, speed and acrobatic skills. I mean, keep the double dash, double jump and all of that, but add in the aspects and types of movement in Titanfall 2, and I think that Doom game would add to it a whole lot more and make it that much more thrilling and enjoyable and the gameplay would get a whole lot more interesting with world building, platform strategies and having to fight demons in a way to where you're flying in the air and shooting. You know how in the multiplayer of Titanfall 2, there's different types of pilots, one of them being grapple? Well, imagine if the Doom Slayer could use the meat hook on his super shotgun not just to grapple onto demons, but also anywhere on the map, like if he needs to get up somewhere super high, he could use the meat hook and shoot it into a wall or something like that and pull himself up with it, just like the grapple pilot, now that would add a whole lot to the gameplay and make it feel almost brand new and a lot more fun. I'm sure we aren't gonna get a game like that unless indie game creators made it or if ID Software actually reads this comment and thinks, "this ain't a bad idea" and created a new Doom game with Titanfall 2-esque, super mobile, crazy movement mechanics.
Love that LD was in this video. Larry David should be in EVERY video you make. Quality video
The whole time I was just WANTING the Marauders! They are so fun 🤩
A good way to think of the speed of a game Mayo, is to think of the Interactions per minute (IPM).
If APM is how many keys you pressed in a minute, IPM is how many conscious decisions did you make per minute, for example swapping to a new gun, changing target, getting a overview of the arena, checking your behind etc.
Halo is a good example, because they did not really lower the APM in shooters, only from the removal of bunny jumping, but the 2 weapon limit and the recharging health, means you have to make less decisions. It is how i explain that some card games like Tongue can be high intensity even though all actions are just moving pieces of paper around.
I play on "hurt me plenty", it's challenging enough for me
There are aliens out there, it's ok if i'm not one of them
There are other challenging games in my steam library
"No I must kill the demons!"
"No Doomguy, you ARE the demons."
And then Doomguy was the Darklord.
Gotta agree on what I like to describe as an “initial knee-jerk reaction”; playing the DLC for the first time on Nightmare was like hitting a brick wall at full speed, and this is coming from someone who has completed all master levels on Nightmare with no deaths and superweapons and also completed UNM. Ngl I was immensely salty that I was getting my ass handed a few times and just stopped playing for a while.
But then when I really reflected on what went wrong and thought about who the DLC is meant for, I went back to play the DLC again to finish it and then also to replay levels to develop strategies. Now I can say with some confidence that I can reliably clear Blood Swamps on Nightmare with no deaths, although I can use some more practice for certain sections. I still despise the foggy arena and the arena with 1 million Barons with a possessed Baron though (and in my opinion the whole DLC will be better without those two arenas), the rest I’ve found to be really tough but the good kind of tough and the kind of tough I don’t mind going through again. I might change my opinion on those two arenas as I get better though.
So, I don't know if you agree with me or not, but I'm slightly concerned about id software's new obsession with opening based enemies. The Marauder 's inclusion was a very good idea. But after 7 playthroughs on nightmare I came to the conclusion that I don' t want more of his kind. Here's why: The marauder isn't a bad enemy, but he's not good enough. Unlike the rest of the game which represents a perfect puzzle/dance which is very noticable, the marauder is not a puzzle. The problem I have with him is that, the player doesn't create the opening, but he has to WAIT for the opening. And since the Marauder's AI is not as smart as other enemies like Caracas and Whiplash (the marauder getting stuck to the wall while running, standing in one place and dashing left and right instead of running and attacking while in the right range, being intrupted by projectoyles etc.), their attack pattern is random. So basically, their opening is almost random. Why do I expect the opening to be more based on the players skill rather than random? Because I have seen a better enemy in another game that reminds me of the Marauder: the Fury in DMC5. Furies have certain attack patterns and can be learned. Besides, it's up to the player to make an opening with their skill, experience and domination over the combat system. What does the marauder do instead? Run towards me with me keeping distance and dodging his axe and waiting for an almost random opening. It's not hard or challenging. It's boring.
There's another reason for me to think the marauder needs improvements: the DOOM Hunters. One of my favorite enemies. (in fact, all the non-boss enemies in Doom eternal are my favorite. I hate all of the boss fights excluding the Doom hunters.) the Doom hunters have strength and weakness points and their inclusion in a fight makes the game a better experience because they give a feeling a puzzle/dance to the game and make the player *think* and question their next moves. Use the plasma rifle to disable their shields but also be careful because their projectiles are fast. Use the blood punch to deal damage to their hovering part but be careful of their melee attack etc. You know better. The Doom hunters and almost any other enemy in Doom eternal makes you *think, makes hundreds of choices and be fast* and mobile. What does the Marauder do? Makes you run and wait for an opening which is, kinda boring.
I was saying that id software's new obsession with this kind of enemies concerns me; Because of the inclusion of the Blood Maykrs, since they have the same issue of their opening being random. And the Gladiator too which sufferes from the same issue. I don't want id software to do *more* of these kind of enemies. I want them to make *better* of them instead because they can.
I know you disagree with me for the most part, but thanks for reading my comment. I'm looking forward to your future content.
P.S. Boss fight rant. Ignore this part: the Gladiator is trash. The Khan Maykr boss fight is trash too. Why is 75% of the ground always an fire? What's the point? I know they were looking for ways to make it more challenging... But why like this? Common. The final Boss is lame. Spawns random demons and, overall boring. Why isn't it a little more scripted and a little more skill based? I'm a fairly good player and always play on Nightmare, but it seriously could've been less random and more scripted so it can be more interesting to fight against.
Edit: it's been 6 months since I wrote this comment. I have a better understanding of the enemies now. So I see them a little more differently. My opinion hasn't changed though, but I have a lot better understanding of how the enemies behave and what issues they have.
I actually like the Gladiator because he doesn’t just whip his shield around magically to block hitscan weapons the way that the Marauder does. If the Gladiator does a big swing and lowers his shield, you can dash to his side and unload on him no problem. The problem I have with the Marauder is that he just magically blocks *everything* even if it looks like he’s open. He should either take chip damage when he puts his shield down or he should never put his shield down outside of his parry attacks so you know exactly what’s going on.
Also, yeah, Furies are handled much better than Marauders for sure. I feel like I can actually stay aggressive against a Fury once I know what to look for from them, while Marauders force you to play their game. Blood Makyrs do as well, but I actually mind them less because they at least properly telegraph their shield and they go down in a single Ballista shot.
@@Prankmeister1990 unfortunately, all of slayer's moves are bound to framerate. So people with powerful PCs can easily dodge his attacks. I can't. On 60fps or lower, his attacks are undodgable. I always have to save 3 or 4 extra lives for the gladiator but I can beat the final boss in 1 run without dying.
I’d really like to see a nee Super Heavy Demon in Ancient Gods 2. I’m thinking they could incorporate the Hell Guard boss from Doom 2016, like how the Cyberdemon boss became the Tyrant. It would fit the story as well, as the Hell Guards could be introduced as some kind of honour guard for the Dark Lord.
I would like to see marauders included in fights with other heavy pressure units like hell knights, dread knights, and barons in larger arenas as well as supporting units like mancubi and arachnotrons... I think setting up a marauder with a baron or 2 and support units in a mid sized arena would be something else...
So glad to see that I was not the only one who lowered the difficulty from nightmare to ultra violence. Ancient Gods part 1 has made me a better player.
I think the father trusts Doomguy, and has trust and faith in him. He's wise, and wants to make sure that Doomguy knows what his actions will do later on. He understands his goals, so he won't interfere.
Usually the dark shadow version of the hero trope is played out but I think it makes perfect sense here. We’ve built up the Slayer as this unstoppable force that the only thing that could ever believably be on his level is himself.
Ily Mayo, don’t change ☺️
I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels exhausted by the level length and intensity. It's part of the reason that I love Nekrevol I and II--they're intense, but split in half so I can just play one to get my fix or to warm up, and then keep going. But I don't have invest 90 minutes of my life. I do have papers to grade from time to time, see...
I wanted to enjoy The Ancient Gods but the tentacles have been making my ultra-nightmare run just impossible...
I really appreciate your take on this stuff. I had to drop the difficulty down halfway through my first playthrough and, honestly, I was just pleased I had got that far before I did. I loved the DLC, but hate the Blood Makyrs 😂
What was really cool is that I've been doing a UV run in Extra Life mode (my skill level isn't ready for nightmare) and when I went back to it after playing the DLC I felt like I was playing better, the improvement was tangible.
It makes me want to stick with it and get that gold skin eventually!
I had no problem with your original video I personally don't think you needed to apologize but good for you for doing it anyways I like when content creators listen to there fans regardless. Also I didn't once think that when you said doom haters you were lumping everyone in including people that just disagree here and there and if people felt that way they should read or "listen" between the lines and understand that lol love your content bro keep it up
When we thought that the marauder was like doomguy's Virgil but it's actually the dark lord
I usually just lower the difficulty to Ultra violence to have "fun" as opposed to feeling like my blood pressure is permanently through the roof the whole god damn time. Didn't stop me from doing my first playthrough on Nightmare (It took me three days, not including the last boss, who I had to turn the difficulty down for because I had no idea how to approach dealing with 2 spirits and a blood angel. Also fuck that boss fight), but there's no shame in turning the difficulty down to help you master it. Matter of fact, all the encounters aren't nearly as tough once you know what demons spawn and who you're priority targets are.
I played my first run through on nightmare, and I stuck with it. I busted my ass to get through some fights, sometimes taking half an hour for a fight. I’m proud that I improved enough to complete a challenge, only to have another to test me. And I did this while depressed after a break up. The moral I guess is just keep trying and eventually it will click and you’ll beat that arena.
3:09 i screamed in terror when i first saw those
As a casual gamer who had recently beat Doom Eternal on Nightmare, I was glad I dropped the difficulty on on the DLC and Played on UV. This DLC was a welcome challenge. I even had to drop the difficulty to HMP on the last parts of the last level. This game put me in Mayo's fun zone and I became a better player. I'll continue on through the game and try to beat it on UV in it entirety.
The way i feel about the spirits and blood maykr is that the objective of them is to make you better at fast reacting and dealing with the unusual circumstances that they have to be killed in and integrating it in your playstyle and flow of combat, if you are ignoring them they will mess you up really bad
The one thing I found really stressful with the DLC is that the increase in enemies stresses my GPU to the point that the game stutters a lot, which breaks my focus and kills my flow. I'm planning to pick up an RTX 3070 when that comes out, but for now my GTX 970 just can't deal with it efficiently enough