Jelle, congratulations, very well done. First comment is... Your thornless one is doing much better than mine. Mine was an air layer from a big one (and that´s how they propagate here - not from cuttings) and the mother tree is also difficult to keep. A loot of dieback and coarse growth.. Next, I do wire them! In fact I have a sapling from the same batch as yours that is fully wired right now. The secret is wiring the young branches and taking the wire off some three to five weeks later, as they will cut and mark the trunk quite badly. In fact, now I prefer the clip and grow method with them, to keep the nice bark unscratched. Then, about pruning. I usually leave a small stub because they do die back very often, and then clean the stubs on my next pruning session. As you´ve said, they are perfect to be conducted only by scissors. Thanks a lot for such nice videos and I hope you manage to propagate them. As you know, they are very, very easy to grow from seeds, and that´s my preference here in the tropics. Please keep doing this great work!
Thank you Clicio! Mine is also an airlayer, judging by the rootbase. Good to know that layering is the method there: Probably they do not root from cuttings reliably even there then! Will try the wiring young. Leaving a stub.. I have not had serious die-back interestingly!
I liked the video. You had a lot of information to share. I watched it just after I had wired and replanted some seedlings I found in a pot on my porch. I hope they survive my wiring, they were very flexible! I still have the strongest seedling and s few others growing on the pirch where i found them, just in case.
Just moved my tree into a smaller pot after letting it grow all spring/summer. Didn’t cut much. A little worried I fuged up. Hoping it doesn’t lose all its new growth.
Very instructive video! My comments are aligned with Clicio's. I also cut in the middle of the internode and let it die back until it hits the previous node. I've been conducting mine (a thorn variety) by clip and grow techniques... The tenuiflorum variation (with a thick bark) I only used structural wire.
Strangely enough, i have had this black background for ages! My repotting and pruning videos that I maf half a year ago also used it.. Then I decided to jave a more interesting background!
I have a few raintrees with thorns in even cooler climate than you and I'm very happy with how they have been doing. Like you I also have had the issue not getting cuttings to root. It's a shame, but I have more trees than I can overwinter inside as it is so maybe its for the better at least for now! I like the structure of your smaller raintree, quite nice.
Watched the whole video though I’ll never grow a BRT, nothing against them but there are lots of trees with similar traits (thorns, compound leaves, hate wiring) which grow well even in hot dry summers of India. Will use the tips shared by you on them
I grew some from seeds very easily. My daughter brought me some seed from Dominican Republic 5 years before I sowed them. I must say these are tuff ones. Not all germinated unfortunately due to me waiting that long. These are the ones with needles unnaturally occuring there.
I live in zone 6b my BRT loves being outside spring through fall. It hates being inside over winter it always looses its leaves. I have successfully rooted cuttings from my tree using rooting compound and leaving a short nub below the node i want roots to come from. I cut nub down to a point like a sharpend pencil exposing more of the phloem. I remove all the leaves except one or two at top of cutting i place them in potting soil and place in a makshift greenhouse dome ( i make mine out of plastic drink bottles). Take cutting when tree starts pushing new growth. It took mine a full year from spring till the fallowing summer to root well enough to have roots sticking out of bottom of pot. I kept them in partial shade till they had significant growth then moved to dappled to full sun. Hope this helps good luck
Is your climate similar to the UK I live in the North West of England near Manchester we get a lot of rain ...having a great spring at the moment quit hot 🔥
I think our climate is a little warmer and drier than the NW England. Summer 25-35c. Normally rain pretty much every week over summer but the last years we have had dry spells of 4-6 weeks 😄
I have never successfully rooted any branches from my BRTs. I have excellent luck with air layering and have produced many new trees that way, but never have had a cutting root for me. I only have thorned varieties. How do you root the thorned ones?
Great video Jelle! How did you get them in Europe? I’ve been searching for one for a while and haven’t been able to get it anywhere - any pointers would really help 🙏🏼
Hi Jim, these absolutely can be outside, they love the summer weather. I am not sure how warm / dry the weather is in Texas: Never been there. Considering we have highs that max out at very rare peaks of 100F/37c I cannot really tell what the max is. Well-watered these seem to thrive in hot weather, with midday shading
Hi My Brazilian tree started to struggle. Leafs becoming yellow, some with darker spots and eventually drop off and soon branches starting to drop off :( Initially I though it may be problems with soil, so changed it completely to akadama. Did not helped at all. Any advice?
Love your Brazilian rain tree's, I'm from the UK and have some seedlings growing, would love to do a video but I believe owning this tree in my country is illegal as we don't have permits? Would love to know if you know any of the legal jargon that comes with these trees if you don't live in Brazil and America? Cheers
@@GrowingBonsai You must apply for a permit or certificate to import, export or re-export any living or dead plant or animal (or any of its parts) that is listed by the Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species of Wild Fauna and Flora ( CITES ). I didn't have a permit to get some seeds but I've managed to get some, would love to do some videos of the seedlings growing but afraid they could get seized as I didn't have a permit to get them in to the UK? I can't find anyone else in the UK (online) who is growing BRT and talking about on TH-cam? Thanks again for your time.
@@GrowingBonsai well this is a good read, I shall look in to it a little more but hopefully I can start doing some BRT videos, hardly anyone in Europe do videos of these trees but you, and I don't know of anyone who has this tree in England Except Bonsai Cornwall, but has a 10 second short, I look forward to watching more videos of your BRT Thanks so much for your information.
Hahaha.. I think that some people have too many opinions :) Bonsai is for me about techniques applied to a tree to make it a miniature version of a mature tree. Indoor or outdoor. Jay, I would like to do an interview with you on an other indoor species. You game?
@@BlueJayBonsai It is a species that I know you have been working on, and have mentioned in your videos frequently. Naturally, If you want the whole Canada gang to participate, that is great too. It is portulacaria afra. Over the weekend I will write some things down and pop you an email.
I've managed to grow the thornless variety from seed. To be honest, these trees grow so fast I don't even think it would be worth rooting their cuttings...
Your knowledgeable explanation of this this topic is very satisfying! Thank You 😊
Thank you R M! Happy to hear it!
Jelle, congratulations, very well done.
First comment is... Your thornless one is doing much better than mine. Mine was an air layer from a big one (and that´s how they propagate here - not from cuttings) and the mother tree is also difficult to keep. A loot of dieback and coarse growth..
Next, I do wire them! In fact I have a sapling from the same batch as yours that is fully wired right now. The secret is wiring the young branches and taking the wire off some three to five weeks later, as they will cut and mark the trunk quite badly. In fact, now I prefer the clip and grow method with them, to keep the nice bark unscratched.
Then, about pruning. I usually leave a small stub because they do die back very often, and then clean the stubs on my next pruning session. As you´ve said, they are perfect to be conducted only by scissors.
Thanks a lot for such nice videos and I hope you manage to propagate them. As you know, they are very, very easy to grow from seeds, and that´s my preference here in the tropics.
Please keep doing this great work!
Thank you Clicio! Mine is also an airlayer, judging by the rootbase. Good to know that layering is the method there: Probably they do not root from cuttings reliably even there then!
Will try the wiring young. Leaving a stub.. I have not had serious die-back interestingly!
Another video, another masterpiece! Very clear tutorial, very beautiful bonsai to be! Thanks for sharing!
Thank you Stefano! ALways nice to see your enthousiastic responses!
@@GrowingBonsai thanks, Jelle! My enthusiasms comes from your inspiration!
I liked the video. You had a lot of information to share.
I watched it just after I had wired and replanted some seedlings I found in a pot on my porch.
I hope they survive my wiring, they were very flexible! I still have the strongest seedling and s few others growing on the pirch where i found them, just in case.
Thank you. Glad you liked it! I do hope you do a bit of a browse on my channel. There might be some other videos you like!
Just moved my tree into a smaller pot after letting it grow all spring/summer. Didn’t cut much. A little worried I fuged up. Hoping it doesn’t lose all its new growth.
It will sulk and mayb drop leaves. Do not panic! Just keep lightly moist (not soaking wet) and keep nice and warm.
Very instructive video! My comments are aligned with Clicio's. I also cut in the middle of the internode and let it die back until it hits the previous node. I've been conducting mine (a thorn variety) by clip and grow techniques... The tenuiflorum variation (with a thick bark) I only used structural wire.
And I have given away my Tenuiflorum as a gift to a friend...
I miss it!
Ohw.. There is a rough bark variety too!!? I do not think I have even seen one around here!
Thank you for sharing!
:( Time to find a new one?
@@GrowingBonsai it absolutely is...
You are going to love it. The bark is soooo beautiful
@@ClicioBarrosoFilho yours is here... I just need to deliver it
You got yourself a black background! Nice 😀👍
Strangely enough, i have had this black background for ages! My repotting and pruning videos that I maf half a year ago also used it.. Then I decided to jave a more interesting background!
Terimaksih.....kawan tutorialnya....
You are very welcome. Do people grow BRT in Indonesia?
Could you tell us how to take care of them indoors pls
Great video thanks for sharing the knowledge.
You're very welcome!
Great video! I don’t have a B rain tree(yet 😋), still interesting information. Keep growing
Hi Wouter, you should get one ;)
Nice one bro, I love Brazilian 🌳 perfect
They are nice right! Bit of a nightmare how sensitive they get when you change their outdoor-to-indoor position though!
I have a few raintrees with thorns in even cooler climate than you and I'm very happy with how they have been doing. Like you I also have had the issue not getting cuttings to root. It's a shame, but I have more trees than I can overwinter inside as it is so maybe its for the better at least for now! I like the structure of your smaller raintree, quite nice.
Hey Michael, thank you so much. Is it the one with or the one without thorns you cannot get to root? The one with thorns roots easily for me.
Watched the whole video though I’ll never grow a BRT, nothing against them but there are lots of trees with similar traits (thorns, compound leaves, hate wiring) which grow well even in hot dry summers of India. Will use the tips shared by you on them
Dont forget the gorgeous peeling bark!
@@GrowingBonsai hmmm tempting , maybe I’ll try to get one, have learnt that they are available in south India
I grew some from seeds very easily. My daughter brought me some seed from Dominican Republic 5 years before I sowed them.
I must say these are tuff ones. Not all germinated unfortunately due to me waiting that long.
These are the ones with needles unnaturally occuring there.
they are a lovely species, arent they? Great to hear them germinating for you
I live in zone 6b my BRT loves being outside spring through fall. It hates being inside over winter it always looses its leaves. I have successfully rooted cuttings from my tree using rooting compound and leaving a short nub below the node i want roots to come from. I cut nub down to a point like a sharpend pencil exposing more of the phloem. I remove all the leaves except one or two at top of cutting i place them in potting soil and place in a makshift greenhouse dome ( i make mine out of plastic drink bottles). Take cutting when tree starts pushing new growth. It took mine a full year from spring till the fallowing summer to root well enough to have roots sticking out of bottom of pot. I kept them in partial shade till they had significant growth then moved to dappled to full sun. Hope this helps good luck
:) Thank you for an extensive write up! Did you see my cuttings video? th-cam.com/video/jDavD4G8RQc/w-d-xo.html
Thanku for a pleasant, serious BRT tutorial. Very watchable, well done God bless you 🙏✝️ ✌️🇺🇦🌻🇺🇦.
You're very welcome. It was a special request in my 1K subs comments, which I decided to honour!
Very nice trees ..
Thank you Michael. Do you have BRT too?
@@GrowingBonsai what is BRT ?
@@natrjack965 Brazilian Rain Tree :)
@@GrowingBonsaithanks ..
Great Video, very informative! Thank you 👌
Hi Naturgeist, do you have BRT yourself too!?
@@GrowingBonsai Hey! Unfortunately not yet. I'm looking to get my hands on one for quite a while now. But in Germany it is pretty hard to find one. 🥲
@@GrowingBonsai where did you get yours from? You're from the Netherlands right? :)
Well, assuming my cuttings strike, you have found a source in Germany!
I am from the Netherlands, but based in Germany my friend!
Is your climate similar to the UK I live in the North West of England near Manchester we get a lot of rain ...having a great spring at the moment quit hot 🔥
I think our climate is a little warmer and drier than the NW England. Summer 25-35c. Normally rain pretty much every week over summer but the last years we have had dry spells of 4-6 weeks 😄
I have never successfully rooted any branches from my BRTs. I have excellent luck with air layering and have produced many new trees that way, but never have had a cutting root for me. I only have thorned varieties. How do you root the thorned ones?
Have you seen the rootong japanese maple videos? I do the same for brt.
Great video Jelle! How did you get them in Europe? I’ve been searching for one for a while and haven’t been able to get it anywhere - any pointers would really help 🙏🏼
Hi, sorry to say, it used to be easier to do this in some countries, but EU law now makes it hard. I do not know of legal ways to do this nowadays :(
@@GrowingBonsai that’s what I have heard everywhere I ask too. Just hoping to find one at some point. Thanks anyway :)
@@Bonsaifly if my cuttings take, I will be releasing them to who wants to buy them
@@GrowingBonsai I’d definitely be interested in getting some
I recommend keeping your eyes peeled on my channel ...
So these can be outside during the summer? What about high temperatures like we have here in Texas?
Hi Jim, these absolutely can be outside, they love the summer weather. I am not sure how warm / dry the weather is in Texas: Never been there. Considering we have highs that max out at very rare peaks of 100F/37c I cannot really tell what the max is. Well-watered these seem to thrive in hot weather, with midday shading
Hi My Brazilian tree started to struggle. Leafs becoming yellow, some with darker spots and eventually drop off and soon branches starting to drop off :( Initially I though it may be problems with soil, so changed it completely to akadama. Did not helped at all. Any advice?
Tricky. This species drops leaves as soon as you look at it the wrong way! It could be soil. Too wet, too dry, too cold..
Love your Brazilian rain tree's, I'm from the UK and have some seedlings growing, would love to do a video but I believe owning this tree in my country is illegal as we don't have permits? Would love to know if you know any of the legal jargon that comes with these trees if you don't live in Brazil and America? Cheers
I doubt owning them is illegal. Why would it be?
@@GrowingBonsai You must apply for a permit or certificate to import, export or re-export any living or dead plant or animal (or any of its parts) that is listed by the Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species of Wild Fauna and Flora ( CITES ). I didn't have a permit to get some seeds but I've managed to get some, would love to do some videos of the seedlings growing but afraid they could get seized as I didn't have a permit to get them in to the UK? I can't find anyone else in the UK (online) who is growing BRT and talking about on TH-cam? Thanks again for your time.
@@gizzygreenfingers as far as I know, BRT is not on the cites restricted species list. cites.org/eng/app/appendices.php
@@GrowingBonsai well this is a good read, I shall look in to it a little more but hopefully I can start doing some BRT videos, hardly anyone in Europe do videos of these trees but you, and I don't know of anyone who has this tree in England Except Bonsai Cornwall, but has a 10 second short, I look forward to watching more videos of your BRT Thanks so much for your information.
Some people would say indoor bonsai is a misdemeanor.. 😂 So funny that you did a BRT video as well.
Hahaha.. I think that some people have too many opinions :) Bonsai is for me about techniques applied to a tree to make it a miniature version of a mature tree. Indoor or outdoor. Jay, I would like to do an interview with you on an other indoor species. You game?
@@GrowingBonsai Depends on the indoor species… and I know enough about that species…
@@BlueJayBonsai It is a species that I know you have been working on, and have mentioned in your videos frequently. Naturally, If you want the whole Canada gang to participate, that is great too. It is portulacaria afra. Over the weekend I will write some things down and pop you an email.
I've managed to grow the thornless variety from seed. To be honest, these trees grow so fast I don't even think it would be worth rooting their cuttings...
Hm.. Are you sure? The thornless variety is a genetic accident, and does not normally propagate by seed. They are all clones
some moments you look like Mulder from x files =)
nice trees
good information
Hahaha, what does that mean for my trees! Alien Trees?
@@GrowingBonsai aphids, leaf miners , the truth is out there Mulder, look deep in the trees =)
lol. Have you seen my video on dealing with aphids, I bet you just watched that!
Is this one with thrones
Yes, it has thorns!
✂🍃💚👍
:)
nice video
the thornless is female, he thorn one is male
ehm.. Nope
What kind of "principle" would prevent you from using grow lights? LOL
it just wastes electricity