GOTRAX’s New Dual-Motor Monster! GX3 Electric Scooter Review
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- Is it worth the upgrade from the GX2? We test GOTRAX’s New Flagship GX3 dual-motor electric scooter!
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Customers - don't expect any rebates or discounts. i bought a scooter after following a code and I was not rewarded the code. In fact, the "customer support" ignored my inquiry about the discount. After that, the $10 tube failed and when I replaced it found that the tubes were not designed for the hub it was placed on. The "support" said it was my fault and I could buy a new tube on their website. You will absolutely get no support on the following: Parts not typically covered include but are not limited to:
Brake pads
Rotors
spokes
Tires/tubes
Chains
Chain rings
Cassettes
Crank-set
Screws
Fenders
Keys
I love how excited Paul gets over new scooters. It's very contagious.
Thanks so much! Encountering new scooters is definitely the best part of this gig! -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide It's not work if you love your job!
Or so I hear.
Audio is only coming from left channel in this video
Thanks for another great review. I started riding lime scooters, then an Unagi Model One, and about 3 months ago the Gotrax GX2. What a fantastic entry level sport scooter! Gotrax is doing something right. Priced perfectly for what you get. Other high performance scooters that go faster and have more range, are heavier and more expensive. ThE GX2 is fast enough to over take cars (city driving) and zip through intersections, giving me the adrenaline rush that I love about riding scooters. I live in Oakland California - not known for pristine paved roads. The GX2 handles the potholes and road hazards that I don't manage to see and weave around. Im in love with my GX2 and It gets a ton of attention. But I am ready for the slight upgrade, just because I am a scooter-head - but as Paul pointed out. The Gx2 gives you pretty much everything less the more rugged appearance and all around upgrades. If you were on a budget like me and every dollar counts, you'll be so happy with the GX2 and the extra (800?) dollars in your pocket. I still want the GX3. That thing looks amaze balls. But I have yet to find myself disappointed by my purchase. . That being said if anyone in the bay area is interested in a GX2 with 500 miles on it I will entertain offers, only so that I can upgrade to the GX3!
Been waiting months for a motor controller for my gx1. Horrible customer service. They then sent me a front motor. So still waiting for a controller. The customer service is not USA based and you can’t call and talk to them.
So sorry to hear about that. I've called and got a live human within a few minutes, but I was just calling with a question about parts ordering and wasn't looking for customer support at the time.
It's too bad they can't give you a 100% off discount code to order the part yourself. It seems to be orderable on their site, but then you'd have to pay $99 for a warranty part, so that doesn't work.
I hope they're able to get you sorted out soon. -Paul
Im glad you guys finally got a chance to get your hands on the GX3. I remember test riding it at rider fest and i was super happy with the feel of it. The smooth acceleration, the plushy suspension even for a BIG Guy like me. Truly an amazing scooter for the price.
I think you posted a video about it right? -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide i did. I praised it kike crazy vs my MAX G2 which is what got me into scooter riding. 😁👍
Yep. 😁👍
I decided on this scooter based on this review. Got it yesterday and love it. Took it out for late night ride and light really throws off distance although beam is too narrow. Would like to see a wider throw. Brakes, suspension, acceleration and ride quality is top notch. This is a Tonka truck of a scooter, very bulky and well built. Playing with throttle now. Initially set up as thumb throttle but not sure I like it.
According to my research, Gotrax scooters are UL certified. That's a good thing.
Yes! I agree! -Paul
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they said it at the end of the video
Appreciate all the work and creativity you guys put into all your videos, very well researched as always.
Love the scenery and views, san francisco looks incredible,
Great review as always 👏 😊
Much appreciated!
I think this is first time i saw a scooter color that made me want the scooter before knowing anything about it
It was a bold move on their part but I LOOOOOOOVE this color. I think it's even better in person. -Paul
Thanks Paul, very good review!
My pleasure!
That scooter is a beast for sure. Good thing that GoTrax brought out a cheaper dual motor scooter. I hope to see you guys review the GoTrax Ares.
Can't wait to get mine in.was about to buy a second gx2 to but was sold out ,but after seeing your review and discount code bought the gx3
Awesome! Enjoy your new ride
So happy you finally received the GX3! I really appreciate the fact you took it off-road as well. Because that’s what it is: an off-road scooter.
I don’t know any scooters in the whole industry that use 4 Hydraulic shocks adjustable.
Is it made of steel or aluminum?
Good question. Most of the shock is aluminum, so I assume that the damping cartridge is aluminum as well. I think this may be the only production scooter with four adjustable hydraulic shocks. I think the Hunter Quad did it first, but definitely not a production scooter. -Paul
Oh yea baby, this GX3 bad boy has get up and go. I like the larger tires. Helps with pot holes. Dual charger oh yes im enjoying the knowledge and review.
Helpful video I was thinking i would keep the gmax ultra forever but after seeing the performance i lowkey might upgrade!
Solid choice for sure!
Very good review thank u!
If this scooter come with matt navy blue colour with red gotrax logo its my absolute favourite 😇😎
Just dark teal green for now. -Paul
Mr. Paul Sir,
Firstly, I would just like to say that I love your reviews and the whole ESG crew!
I am very interested in the GX3 and hope to get mine in the next couple of weeks. I noticed that the tire is a tubeless tire. I was wondering if it is possible to pull the tube from the tire install a tubeless style stem, air it up and run it as a tubeless rather than tubed?
I doubt it. I’ll bet they would have run it that way if the rims allowed it. I don’t think the stem-hold is made to hold a seal on these rims, but I could be wrong. -Paul
Finally! I was looking forward to this review since I'd basically decided that this will be my next scooter. After the review: Hell yeah, I'm definitely going to get it when I can afford it! ETA: I love that you were so enthusiastic when this finally showed up. Took them long enough to get it to you!
Awesome! So glad you enjoyed it. Sorry about the weird audio. Have fun with your GX3. I meant it when I said I could be happy with one of these for a very long time! -Paul
Just watched this video for a 3rd time and it's so well done. I enjoyed every minute of this video. Of the "big" reviews that I was looking forward to the first part of this year, two of them have been reviewed by ESG already. The GX3 and the Apollo Go being the first two. The 3rd as the NIU KQi 300X. There's really only one decent review out there but the reviewer really isn't a "scooter guy" and I believe it's his first one. In any case, hopefully NIU has sent you one. TH-cam has been strangly quiet about this model, considering the success of the KQi3 Pro and Max. Looking forward to when you can post something on this scooter.
My only slight hangups on the GX3 are the tubed tires and quite different throttle but those are not absolute deal breakers. I'm stuck between the GX3 and Solar FF Lite (2024 Update). Both are about the same price right now, with the GX3 being more all terrain with more sophisticated suspension and the FF Lite being a bit faster, 1380Wh battery, 15lbs lighter, self healing street tires and choice of thumb or twist throttle. While tire reliability and larger battery pull me toward the FF lite 2024, it's most similar to two sport scooters I have now, the RS5 Max and Mantis K GT. I don't own anything like the GX3 and don't have an 11" scooter. I'll have to give it a couple more days and just pick one. I could probably flip a coin and be happy with either.
You've got a great collection. The Mantis King GT should really get more attention than it does. Mitchell got to ride the KQi300X a little at a conference, but I don't know when or if we're getting one for a review. I've been playing around with the full carbon Air X lately and think it may need to join my permanent collection at some point because CARBON! How is the damping holding up on the Mantis King GT? One of the things I've found is that for many scooters (not so much the Mantis King GT) the hydraulic shocks get overwhelmed by the leverage of the suspension. I feel like the GX3 will do well in that regard since the shocks are almost at a 1:1 ratio with the movement of the axles. (the wheels don't have 3:1 leverage over the shock like most C shaped arrangements where the shock is in the middle of the C). I spent the day doing speed runs on the RS Midnight Light from Voro. I set a new stopping distance record with it because it's so long and low. But the shock damping is really overwhelmed by the leverage of the suspension. It needs twice as much shock as it has. -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide Well, thank you but you and ESG have the real collection!! The Mantis King GT has been quite good other than some suspension clunking when unloaded. I didn't figure out the source right away and ended up having to mod it with some shaped rubber bumpers a few months down the road. The stem tube has a little bit of flex but I'm sensitive to flexible stems. The adjustable rebound damping is nice but once I set it.. I haven't touched it since. The RS5 Max has been much a more solid and quiet scooter out of the box and feels more premium with an absolutely rigid stem system. It's also slightly faster, which wasn't expected. Oh...I set a distance record on it yesterday 71 miles (cruising at 16-20mph) with 45.5V remaining so 20% -ish left? It included stops and I was out 4:52min. The GPS showed 69.54miles and the odo. showed 72mi. I was in a 3-4 parking garages however and the GPS was likely loosing signal. I split the difference.
So far, no felt difference in the damping on the Mantis but 98% of my miles are on road and I'm nice to my equipment. I'm about 190lbs with all my gear on. I don't doubt however that there is likely some measurable degradation as you point out, due to the leverage of these "middle placed" c-type swing arms. The 1:1 ratio of the GX's is very interesting and that never occurred to me until you mentioned in. You would know better than with your racing background I but I'm wondering how much of what you're feeling is insufficient shock damping vs. insufficient spring rate. My guess is that the spring rates are selected to allow for an amount of typical movement that correlates to the designed swing arc of the arms. It's also my guess that if the spring rates were increased for "track" type duties" useful suspension travel would be reduced but overall track performance would be increased with brake dive decreasing. Congrats on the new stopping distance record!
Could you review the Gotrax Ares? I was looking at the GX1 and like it. It's fast and affordable but I think it's too heavy for someone like me. I then resorted to the GMAX ULTRA and coincidentally they release Ares which seems like a good middle ground.
We don't have the Ares in the plan, but thanks for asking about it. We'll see if we can get one eventually. -Paul
I am very curious on what you're using to record. And what attachments you are using?
The FPV is filmed with a DJI action cam 4 and the wireless mic.
We also use an insta 360 X3
Great review! I bought a gx1 mainly bc of your review on it. I do have a question though.. how do I add pre damping on the gx1? Do I want the springs to be tighter or expanded? Thanks
Depends on your weight!
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide I'm on the heavier side.
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide I have a gx1. When I get on it, it almost seems like I'm using 50% of the shock just by standing on it. I'm wondering if making the springs tighter at a static stance, or more expanded at a static stance would accommodate so that when I stepped on the scooter it would have more than 50% travel remaining to absurd bumps.
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide well, NVM. I found a great video on motorcycle pre load that explained it. But hey, that's a good content idea for you since I haven't been able to find a video specifically on scooter pre load! And for anyone else reading this, I found that the heavier you are, the more pre load is needed. And pre load is basically making the springs shorter, or tighter at a static stance (the scooter without you on it).
Hey! Im interested in the niu kqi 3pro and the kugoo kirin m3. Wich one do you recommend? Thank you for your answer.
We haven’t tested the Kugoo scooters, but the NIU scooters are super high quality scooters and have a two year warranty, so of those two I’d go NIU. -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide Thanks for your quick answer :)
Thanks Paul, looks awesome! Question for you, what would you recommend for a good off-road (mainly) / on-road scooter that is trusted and with safe LG/Samsung batteries. Top speed at least 20mph and range at least 20 miles. Best bang for the buck, price under $1500. I am looking to exercise my malinois more and need 1 or 2 recommendations. Been looking at your videos, but it's really hard to pin point one.
Wow, that's a very specific list, but I think doable. We just updated the search tool at the new electricscooterguide website. We got a new one without the dash in it. Hopefully you can find one there.
The EMOVE Cruiser S hits all of these marks with speed and range to spare. The GX1 and GX2 are amazing value for dual motor scooters, but don't have LG/Samsung cells, though I would trust them to be safe since the scooters are UL listed. -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide thank you!
I emailed GoTrax CS and they told me that the batteries in the GX3 are LG.
Just bought a GOTRAX GX2 because of you!! I'll need to save up for riding gear before
Great , enjoy your new ride.
Does the GX3 have a USB port in the power controller like the GX1/GX2?
Great question! No, I've looked closely and don't see one anywhere. -Paul
Thanks for the video. Where is that waterfront location?
That's in Alameda, CA. There's a huge park there. Ramier drove, so I don't remember exactly where. -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide Thanks!!!
Is the trail in the video above Cow Palace?
Yes! -Paul
You know we've come a long way if GoTrax has a Scooter with 11 inch tires 😅
I know what you mean. A couple years ago I couldn't imagine a dual motor Gotrax, and now this! -Paul
Any recommendations for a full face helmets for summer riding?
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Will you guys review the mukuta 10+? Looks pretty good!
Unfortunately we don't have one in the plan right now. -Paul
Will those shocks fit the apollo phantom ?
Not sure!
I have one and have put over 120 miles on it and it is great. Wish the throttle was more subtle at the beginning. Also my brakes squeak.
Do you know any group rides in the east bay? I live in San Leandro. Thanks.
I don't know of any group rides but look up Intro2Speed Bay Area. They get together and race in Alameda. Super fun, even if you just come out to hang out. -Paul
I live in oakland. we could start something!
The new Gotrax Ares seems nice. Its seems to have the best of both worlds. Id love to see a video on it
I was looking at that and it seems so close in price to the GX1 on sale for $999, What do you like better about the Ares than the GX1? -Paul
It on paper looks like hybrid on the best scooters. It has 28mph close to the GX1 30mph and dual motor and suspension. It has similar controls and switchable gear like the GX1, GMax, and G(Number) series. And it has the Ironically huge display as the much cheaper Apex series. It has 0 to stop which I like, using kick to start scooters is so aggravating. I just hope it doesn't have the auto parking mode like the GX series which I don't know if it does.
Could you do the Gotrax G7? Oddly the scooter came out about a month ago but its like it doesn't even exist. I can't find a single review on it but the Ares a week old already has reviews. I'd also like to see the Ares too aswell, most reviews don't go as in depth as you.
Thank you so much! I don't think we have either of those two in the plan right now, which means it will be at least three months from now if we did get them. I really appreciate you letting us know about your interest in these. This is really how scooters get on our radar and get bumped up the list. Several people have asked about the Ares in the comments here. -Paul
I bought this for my daily commute, but the gx3 I bought was defective. The pin latch hole on the neck looks like it has a fracture that gotrax/manufacture rewelded, hammered and repainted. The pin DOES NOT go through the oblong hole (should be round). Please be careful in case you get one of these. I haven't heard from their support department and the people on the phone can't do anything about it. The c-clamp gets loose from the vibration of not being fully secure. THIS IS A HUGE SAFETY ISSUE. I can share any video or photos to anyone regarding the issue to add to your content.
Thanks for the feedback! May be a one off as we didn’t hear of these issues.
Gotrax website says the GX1, GX2 and GX3 all have a weight limit of 300lb but the GX1 I received has a sticker on the bottom that says 330lb, curious if the GX3 says the same?
Funny. I happen to have that photo up on my phone right now and you're correct. The sticker says 330lbs! -Paul
If you download the user's manual off the website it has a data/spec sheet. I believe that the odds are that the user's manual spec sheet is most likely going to be the most correct. BTW on the GX3 it says 330lbs for the max load.
Hey Paul, thanks again for the great review! I was vacillating between the FF Lite (2024) and the GX3. After watching your review for the 5th time, I went with the scooter that was lease like others that I already have and that ended up being the GX3! While I have a RS5 Max, Mantis King GT, VSETT 8+, Cruiser S, KQi3 Max, and some less sporty commuters, this is my first 11" scooter. Using code ESG100 it was $1699 + tax, which I think is a heck of a buy for the equipment spec. on this scooter. The GX3 suspension feels more sophisticated than the Mantis King GT, having slightly better overall feel during the 6-8 miles I've had it off road and a place that I've ridden the King GT quite a bit. It's neat that it also holds its own it's own with the other sport scooters on the pavement. I mean, it's obviously not as fast as the RS5 Max or Mantis but it's still torquey and fun. When street riding, you don't feel like you're missing anything and I'm more prone to short cutting across grass and dirt lots to connect points. I performed a 51mi GPS (52.3mi on odo) range test with it yesterday evening, finishing at 45.8v or 20-ish% useful voltage remaining and averaging 15.6mph. I'm 195lbs with my gear and pack and spent 90% of my time in 1st gear. I'm guessing it would do another 5mi based on my other 52V experience. One small issue is the throttle. There's a "hitch / hick-up" near the beginning of the throttle travel that hits close to a 100% power in the first few millimeters of travel (it would be alarming to a novice). Once I pull the trigger past this particular sport, there's a proper neutral zone and after that a linear, proper, expected progression of power output. I'm guessing it's just the lever itself and I've already submitted a warranty claim... we'll see how that goes. Anyhow, I'm at about 80 miles now and taking it out for another range ride tomorrow morning. Thanks for the work you put into this review!
Thanks very much for your support!
Seems decent enough. I'm really hoping that NIU will move upmarket and release a dual motor performance scooter. I like their scooters and they have some innovative designs and features but I need something with a bit more power than what they currently offer.
It's so overdue right? We've been thinking the same thing. -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide Yeah, they've really got the art of lightweight but durable just about perfected. I'd love to see a 40+ mph dual motor with decent range that weighs in a flat 50 pounds without doing something goofy like having tiny wheels or one brake.
@@Captain_Kickass-l1f Unfortunately we won't see that specification in this current era of battery and motor tech. You currently need about 2200W to go 40mph on a scooter. So while everything you mentioned is cool, you'll typically need 52V to 60V scooters with corresponding appropriate battery sizes... at least 20Ah at 52V or 18Ah at 60V (which means range will suffer, so manufacturers typically go larger. The lightest scooters hitting 40mph are about 66lbs using all lightweight aluminum chassis and quad spring front ends. Go to the superior C-Type suspensions and they're typically coming in from 70-75lbs in scooters like the Mantis King GT and Solar FF Lite.
That stated, I'd also like to see NIU's version of the Apollo Go. Something that goes 27-30mph but has a bit more range to it. Apollo could have added 25% more battery capacity to the Go model for about 2lbs additional weight and with minimal additional cost, perhaps $100 or so. Unfortunately they didn't and so the Go lacks the versatility it could have easily had. Perhaps NIU will would bring us a 50-ish pound, lightweight dual motor with 25mi of ESG tested range. I'd buy one in a heartbeat. Likewise, if Apollo did a "Max" version of the Go, I'd buy that in a heartbeat. There are hardly any choices in lightweight dual motor, mid performance scooters. The manufacturers are really missing this boat in this area. In the case of the VX4 they basically gave it dual motor performance and then missed educated scooter buyers with a 24mph top speed. The VSETT 8+ used to be a fantastic scooter but the design is archaic now.
@@Patriot36 you're almost certainly correct. I guess it doesn't matter what kind of exotic materials you wind up using, there's no way to achieve 40 miles an hour and decent range at only 50 lb. i thought Dualtron made something like a limited edition spider 2 or something that got close but I can't remember exactly.
I just sold my KQi3 Max and will be waiting for the GX2 to have a REALLY good sale. Similar to what you said, I would love to see a dual motor NIU with a suspension and beefier tires. My preference would be to make their KQi3 Max motor (900 peak/450 sustained) into a dual setup, with a front fork & rear shock, and 10x3 tubeless that can handle a bit more than perfect pavement. I don't need 38mph, I just want confidence on inclines and mild terrain.
nice specs though curious why the downgrade from the lower models to tubed tires. Rocking my hover 1 journey max and may upgrade to a $2k range scooter in the fall, and tubed tires are on the list of things i consider a deal breaker.
Not sure! Some like it some don’t
How to properly charge a electric scooter can u tell me
Plug in to wall first the charger , then into the scooter second.
I really think I'm gonna upgrade from my G3 plus very soon.
Use code ESG100 for $100 off while it lasts
Purchasing scooter for my birthday on Father's day which should i go with Gx3 or Nami for my 1st Electric scooter please help Lol? Fingers 🤞🤞
GX3 is a solid deal now and code ESG100 brings in down even $100 to $1699
Why do you crouch down when your going fast? Does it make it easier to control?
It lowers wind resistance and lowers your center of gravity which makes you go faster
Faster speed!
Just purchased mine today. Any idea on estimated days it takes to arrive. It says 3-5 days on average but I'm not sure. Thanks for the review btw. Really appreciate it. I'm super stoked
Should be quickly less than a week!
It arrived today. Definitely looks better in person. It's a beast for sure. Took it for a ride. You can feel the dual motors working as well as the suspension. it rides smooth
Very nice !
Thank you! Cheers!
Id love to see what you guys rate the Varla Eagle One v2. It’s a goofy name but there is no tested data.
We haven't heard from Varla in a while. I think Mitchell may have done a review though, over at his RK9 channel. He does different testing over there though. -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide I did watch his video. He’s a great videographer and presenter. I just love the data that you all provide to the community and hope one day that scooter will have the same. :)
How do you get to the battery on the GX3? Can you buy a spare one?
I didn't open this one, but I did open the GX2 in that video and it sure looks the same. There are 6 little rubber flaps in the deck so you don't need to pull back the deck rubber itself. Under that are 6 screws (I think they might have been phillips screws. Then the battery is right inside. Usually they are held down by 4 to 6 screws.
They have batteries listed as available for 17 different models right now. The GX1 and GX2 are listed, but showing as sold out, the GX3 isn't listed yet.
In the long-term video I did on the GX1 and GX2 I called customer service and was shocked to get a real person on the line within about 10 seconds. She said that if you need something that's not listed you have to email customer service. I emailed them and they responded, though it took a few days.
I've been encouraging all of the scooter companies to list more parts on their sites, since it wastes everyone's time to not have all of the parts listed.
-Paul
Thanks, Paul! I did reach out to them. Here's what they said " Hi Dear,
Sorry for the inconvenience, but the battery was out of stock now , it may need about 1-2 month then it will back in stock ,and it's LG battery , $370 for the battery. thanks a lot.
Best regards
skyler from Gotrax Support Team"
Can I get a few recommendations? I'm a truck driver. So I end up stuck in truck stop parking lots A-LOT. A PEV sounds like a perfect answer to allow me to access local shops I otherwise wouldn't be able to get to.
Like many drivers I'm a little bigger guy. 250ish lbs. So I would need something fairly rugged, and capable but also decently compact and not too heavy since I'd have to lift and store it inside the truck.
I'm looking for a Unicorn I suppose. A Dual motor scooter, with all terrain tires, decent range, while also being under 65lbs.
The GX1/GX2 are probably closer to what you're looking for, as they are closer to what you want weight-wise while being dual motor and trail capable. If you're looking for dual motor transport and you're not worried about longer range, then the GX1 is probably your best bet; the biggest improvement the GX2 will give you over the GX1 is increased range (if the few additional MPH don't do anything for your use case).
Just get the gx3. 87lbs isn’t as heavy as you think.
This is going to be the best bang for your buck by far.
Really makes me feel uneasy they would advertise the scooter as tubeless when it's not. How could they mess that up without it being intentional? It's such an important feature for riders and makes a huge difference in the value of the scoot for me.
I don't see it advertised as tubeless on their site.
The tires they're using are manufactured to be used without tubes, which is why they say tubeless on the outside of the tires. So the type of tire is tubeless, but they are using tubeless tires with tubes installed because the rims they're using aren't designed to run tubeless. I hope I didn't cause even more confusion here. -Paul
How would you compare this to a Solar P1 Pro
The P1 Pro has more raw speed and power. The GX3 is more refined, and easier to ride. They both have very different looks, of course. Both are a ton of fun. If you can never get enough speed, the P1 Pro is unbeatable for performance per dollar. If you love great suspension and 38mph is fast enough, then the GX3. For me, it sort of depends on what day it is. I really like both. -Paul
Beautiful views of the Bay Area. Much better views than south Florida.
you should review the Varla Pegasus since they changed it
That's interesting. I know some people really love solid tires, but the old solid tires on the Pegasus were my least favorite thing about it. (we still have the one from the review here). Thanks so much for the heads-up. Our comments section is awesome! -Paul
How about review some of the hyper scooter of the WEPED brand from korea?
They are a boutique brand! No real support or mass production.
The gx3 is no longer on gotrax’s website, is something up? Out of stock?
I see it. Are you outside the US?
Here’s our link. -Paul
geni.us/GoTraxGX3?track=ytr
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide Yes,I'm in Canada. Makes no sense but thanks. Maybe we'll see the gx3 here eventually.
Don't expect the tubes to be designed to to fit. And they are not under warranty: Parts not typically covered include but are not limited to:
Brake pads
Rotors
spokes
Tires/tubes
Chains
Chain rings
Cassettes
Crank-set
Screws
Fenders
Keys
No app is a selling point for me. Recent reviews on new scooter releases from ESG have shown me that companies are capable of making much better displays than the manufacturer special of the past which just included a basic speedometer and charge indicator.
The only thing missing that an app can "solve" seems to be GPS which is easily fixed by purchasing an airtag or similar and finding a secure mount location.
But the negatives of scooters that adopt apps seem to be innumerable (loss of core functionality without phone, anti consumer privacy policies, excuse for manufacturers to push features past the release date of a product, opening the door for overly monetizing "services" that shouldn't warrant additional costs, and more...).
I agree. I really feel like you should always be able to do 99% of the stuff the scooter can do without an app. The one thing I think they are really handy for is firmware updates if needed. -Paul
Need help with this one. I am new to Escooters
I sold my Onewheel Gts so I could get two scooters for my wife and I instead.
I ordered a GX1 for my wife and me a GX3
Will I be disappointed in not looking at something like a Solar P1?
Both are solid options for sure!
I’ve been doing a lot of research on electric scooters and I was wondering what you guys would recommend for me. I’m looking for something under 700 dollars and durable. Thanks!
Check out our cheap scooters video!
Rode mine for the first time last night and again this morning. The front wheel is making a cranking sound. Guessing I'll have to send it in and wait a few more weeks (or month) before I can ride again. Hopefully this doesn't happen again. $2000 isn't cheap.
Hopefully issue will be resolved!
What's the best full suspension neme brand scooter under 1000 dollars?
You can get the solar p1 3.0 for $1200 which is a pretty good option for the price. If you want under $1000, than a segway Ninebot max is what you want, but you can’t go faster than 18mph I think
GX1 is hard to beat, on sale for $999
I will consider
I have a segway MAX G2 and though i really like it i would go the GX1 route because its dual motors and you'll definitely appreciate the extra power for inclines.
my left ear loves this
lol haha
Outstanding review, Paul. I just wanted to reinforce that the longer format is fantastic. Please keep doing this as the additional information is fantastic. 10:20 I had to listen to this three time to make sure that I understood correctly but it's really disappointing that the GX3 has tubed tires. I'm hoping that the wheels will accept a tubeless tire because that's a pretty significant downgrade from the GX2. Another thing that's odd to me is that GoTrax can't seem to get their act together with regards to the technical specs on their website. While listed as 94 lbs, thanks to ESG, we know that the weight is 7lbs less than specified, which is a good thing. On their website they still specific a "thumb throttle" which is obviously different from what your unit shipped with. Another oddity is the "54V 25ah (1350Wh)" (specified on their website) battery but there is no cell counts that adds up to 54V, it's either 48, 52, 56 (very rare) or 60V. Well, if the voltage is indeed 52V and it's a 25Ah then that's 1300Wh, not 1350Wh as listed. If it's 48V and 25Ah then that's 1200Wh... not "1210Wh." In future review, it would be helpful if we could have the working voltage of the scooter stated / verified... since the manufacturer doesn't seem to be capable of doing so, not to mention that's a fairly basic and important spec when it comes to any PEV. Thanks again and thanks for the ESG discount.
Thank you so much. That means a lot coming from you!
It's amazing how often manufacturers are off on weights. I was shocked when I measured Hover-1's ACE R350 and R350 and they agreed with my scale to within 1/10th of a pound.
The battery thing was surprising. I checked the website, checked the owner's manual and checked the sticker on the scooter and they all said different things. The sticker on the scooter seemed like the most official source, so I went with that. Both the charger and the sticker on the scooter specify 58.8V max, which is the hallmark of a 52V scooter. So that also made me trust the sticker as the source of truth.
-Paul
Please review the new Gotrax Ares
Wow, second request in the last three comments! I'll definitely ask about it, but if we get one, it will be at least three months before we could review it. We have a huge backlog of scooters to test right now. -Paul
Sounds like an awesome scooter but why tubed tires?
Hopefully in the future
38 mph? That thing looks like is capable of traveling faster then that like 45 or maybe 50 mph lol. Anyways iv never seen quad KKE front and rear suspension that little red knob to adjust. But no that scooter is not for me because I'm always going above 40 mph on the street. That scooter in my opinion would be for like traveling in a city where there's too many cars and Pedestrians to get by because of the type of speed. Im hyped up i bought the new nanrobot LS7+ 72 volt its on the way should arrive somewhere in may didnt get confirmation yet of the arrival.
Try out the Gotrax Ares. It's looks promising.
Thanks so much for the suggestion. The Ares is getting a lot of love in the comments section and I'll definitely look into it! -Paul
You guys should review the Hover-1 Renegade dual motors for only 399.
Is the battery removable? / swappable
No. It's not. -Paul
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Thanks for your support! -Paul
Yo ESG; just a heads up. This video has no audio in the right channel, only left. You might wanna fix it because it sounds wierd.
I got music in both channels but voice only in my left.
Thanks.
I am only using the left earbud. Sounds great to me.
Why do you crouch down when your going fast? Does it make the scooter easier to control?
@@phugcvit’s harder to control but it decreases wind resistance.
Why is the audio only left side and so quiet?
Sorry, the "final" draft was perfect, but somehow the audio got messed up between the last version I saw and the version which was uploaded. I'm heartbroken over it, because this might be my favorite video I've worked on. -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide sorry for sounding so rude
I wish you could turn off the 2 small headlights on the side of the scooter. I ride only in the day and i feel like those 2 lights alone drain a lot of the battery.
Good point! They seem fairly small.... but definitely a draw. -Paul
I am actually mindblown that so many of these higher end scooters have no adequate IP protection, I mean IP54? Really? it will break if you get water damage, it's not an indoor vehicle so why not protect it from the rain? this should be an industry standard, these vehicles are used by many people to commute to work, good IP protection is a must.
Can on road tires be damaged by going off road?
Depends on the terrain
Gravel perhaps?
No. It will just be slippery.
I wonder why GoTrax didn't try to target 40mph?
It’s a good question. It has enough power to go a legit 40mph, but maybe they were going for 60kph and over-shot a little. -Paul
I’m pretty new to the scooter industry but I didn’t know about the firmware speed limiter. You’re right Paul, it should go wayyy faster than 38 mph that Gotrax advertised! Is it possible for gotrax to maybe increase the speed a little??
Been trying to order mine for the past 3 weeks! Still out of stock!
Hopefully very soon!
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuideback in stock! ORDERED!!
I'm not getting audio then I read it's only comnig from the left side and .... I'm deaf in my left ear.... lol
So sorry about that. We're heartbroken that we didn't catch this mistake. We went through 6 rounds of edits on this one. Version 6 was perfect when we reviewed the footage, but we all missed version 6-A. :-( -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide love your content guys. Just letting you know guys. Keep it up!
It would be a good $1,399 scooter. Definitely not worth $2k. I have GX2, and it’s overpriced too (Should be $999, GX1 at $849). I now ride a Maxfun 10 Pro, and at only $1,799 it smokes the GX3.
How is the suspension? Hydraulic damping? Adjustable? -Paul
Can you do a test where you fall off at 38mph?
What’s that like on a scooter?
I’ve done that one more than a dozen times on a motorcycle. If I’m wearing full armor (in my case an Aerostich riding suit), then I usually bounce right back up, sometimes with sore ribs depending on how I hit the ground.
At above 15 mph, it’s really best to wear a full-face helmet and full protective gear because you can no longer bail out and run once riding beyond 15mph. -Paul
P.S. in about an hour I’m leaving to do a speed run on a scooter which claims to go 68mph.
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide Can you film that? it would be a great video.
Drives me crazy when scooter reviewers take their hands off the handlebars at speed. Stop it so we can see your Gx4 review please.
Noted! Thank you
I got one too, wait until they’re on sale because it’s not worth 2000. Maybe 1800. I’m pretty disappointed really, the in motion for another 1000 is a way better scooter. And gotrax has garbage costumer service
They're on sale right now for $1,799. -Paul
When are you gonna make a video on the Hover-1 pro series boss scooters? Be the first to do it.
Hover-1 Pro series Ace 350 and Ace 450 are coming next -Paul
Don't forget the boss r500 as well
Who do i have to brown nose to be allowed to come to your facility and spend a few days just test riding scooters?
I wish I had a few days to test ride random scooters! Unfortunately every minute is scheduled, so we can do the most testing and still crank out a reasonable number of videos! We wish we could have people come play though! -Paul
We need over 120 miles range scooters 😊
Some day we’ll get there. I’ve ridden 83 miles in one go and that’s further than I ever want to ride on a scooter :-) -Paul
Nami Burn E2 Max over everything!!!!!!! 🙃🙃🙃🙃
Stop using and selling double chargers , it’s not good for the battery to speed charge them
It's still not speed charging unless you're charging the battery in less than an hour. I don't know of a scooter where that's possible even with two chargers. -Paul
I like it. But the color is holding me back from buying.
Pretty standard colors!
Tube tires is a downgrade, honestly doesn’t seem like much of an upgrade from gx2 ! besides the display , horn & blinkers , bigger battery.
Thanks for your feedback!
gotta agree tubed tires on a 2k scooter is kinda bs when the cheaper models have tubeless makes no sense
@@vladstad8102 my exact thoughts, such b.s. and they should of capped the speed at 40 mph instead of 38 mph .
Tubed tires are easier to change. I've grown to hate tubeless tires because it's almost impossible to change. Tires are the part that wear out first and wears out the most.
@@marshapelo9830 to each their own, when you got over three flats in a month from tubes tires your opinion might vary, I have tubeless self healing tires on my solar ff lite I don’t have to worry about getting flats anymore . They are both hard to change to me . I take my scooter to the local shop lol
Thanks for sharing but it's a renamed kogoo
Thanks for stopping by!
Still too slow...
How fast do you think would be ideal? -Paul
@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide I feel as though the sweet spot would be 45-50 mph top speed. Cruising at 35-40mph, knowing you have that little extra in the tank if you need it for peace of mind.
The other thing is that when you are traveling in traffic, which in my city is necessary because they don't like E-Scooter's on the sidewalk or concrete trails where pedestrians typically travel, it is sometimes necessary to make quick maneuvers in order to more safely place oneself in the flow of traffic. There are many cases in which the 38mph wall could pose an issue for more safely traversing traffic. This is especially because most city based thoroughfares in Texas fall in the 40-45mph range.
I like fast scooters but in my opinion they are too heavy, the convenience just go out the window, also since they get more advanced the uphold/service on it will be more, but of course going far distances and they comfort of these scooter are the strong points compared too the smaller ones, have a similar one myself, 😎
Thanks for the feedback!
I love to watch his videos, except the musical accompaniment, which is SO WEIRD and loud.
Noted! Thanks for the feedback
Apollo phantom v4 or this?
We would go with the phantom! It’s very solid and comes with app and excellent suspension and dedicated regen brake. Check out link for sale pricing geni.us/ApolloPhantomV3 and use code RIDERGUIDE for $50 off
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide nice! Thanks for reply
@surronster Sur Ronster shootout around 10:00 !!!