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Is there any Le Mans car faster than a F1 of the same era ?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ส.ค. 2024
- In the history of car racing,
has there ever been a Le Mans car
faster than a Formula One from the same era ?
I try to answer this question using Assetto Corsa.
00:00 : intro
00:15 : 2016 cars
03:05 : 1967 cars
06:15 : 1990 cars
10:59 : 1970 cars
14:49 : 917/30 Spyder top speed
So basically the closest era in terms of performance is the 2016 era...wow
Well LMP1s had over 1000hp and weighing about 700 kilograms, so yeah
@@mathieuschafer1360 man only toyota had 1000hp but only on quali spec in the race the used only a fraction of the Electric power and an lmp1 has a minimum weight of 875kg if is hybrid or 830 if not,while the other cars like porsche had 880/900hp
The video didn't included the 2008 to 2012 cars. Those cars will smoke the F1 cars of that era.
@@aaronwestley3239 maybe a 2012 audi would be faster than a 2014 f1 car or a 2010/2011's car
Doesn't surprise me really, they have the aerodynamics to have a similar corner speed to F1 cars and amazing power to waight ratios, and Hybrid systems for an extra boost. LMP1 was something else.
Apologies if someone else has mentioned this but probably one of the closest could be the very last years of Group C. The Jaguar XJR14, Peugeot 905 (and the Supercopter variant), the un-raced Mercedes C292 were all the final generations of those regulations. Huge downforce, with an endurance spec F1 style engine. I know only the Peugeot raced at Le Mans (the Jaguar did practice and came back as a Mazda in’92) but those cars if I remember were fast enough for top six on the F1 Spa grid at the time (for example). Unfortunately there are no AC mods of these cars available or the ones that do exist are not very good quality. Fun video though. Yes the 2016 cars were the pinnacle of LMP1-h. The limiting factor is the regulations of course. Take that away and we had the 919 Celebration car, and we know how fast that thing was. Lol.
but then again f1 cars are heavily regulated too and no one has ever created an unregulated f1 car yet. maybe one day in the future we would get something like the redbull x2010 or x2019 irl
But if we take out the regulations out of the F1 cars we know what would happen🙂
If you look at the 80s, group C race cars without the chicanes would be the F1s of the same era.
@@smolbo1 i don't think F1 will get to RedBull X2019 level of performance because "that's not safe". But there's a car with same concept that broke record time on Goodwood. I believe it called McMurtry and that's their "road car" version. lol
@@smolbo1lmp1 had bop and i think that has to do majorly with the upgraded 919 evo, f1 cars dont have bop and are built around the regulations without being destricted
Not a very accurate comparison, the 917 was at least 50 mph faster than the fastest GP car which was the Ferrari, it would have covered the 3.7 mile long straight about 12-15 secs faster, and the 1st chicane and Porsche curves hadn't been added yet so that's an even larger advantage for the sports car. The Porsche took pole 9 secs a lap faster than the GP pole at Spa in 1970 and at Monza it was only a second slower.
And the Ferrari 312PB and Matra from 72 and 73 were even faster on many circuits (although not Le Mans). Ickx's Pole lap for the 73 Spa 1000km was the fastest official timed lap of a road course anywhere until a few of years ago When it was beaten at Monza by Kimi I think?
Indeed, this video is prety biased towards F1. Kids only rely on not so accurate "sims" like Assetto (wich is made out of mods) and not on researching history.
I have to say, I wonder if an F1 car would hold out for 24 hours.
In Spa in 1970 F1 used a chicane at Malmedy corner.
You have to take setups into consideration
the 70s races should have been done on the old circuit without the porsche curves etc, I don't think the le mans cars would have won but it would have been a lot closer. Also tbh should have redone the one where the leader crashed, you're testing speed, not Assetto Corsa's AI :P
I agree, but AI with some modded cars (as is the Nissan) crashes consistently, this is why I drove a Nissan too. Anyway, the margin of the 1990 Ferrari was huge (despite it was blocked by the other cars until hunaudières chicanes)
Actually Pedro Rodríguez did make faster lap times with the 917/K in 1970 at Spa Francorchamps, which obviously has a lot more turns than the old Le Mans circuit, so the difference would've probably been even higher, also I'd like to add the fact that he didn't properly compare the 70's since he used the Lotus 72D, which has a lot more power and aerodynamics than it's predecesor 72B and 72C that Rindt and Soler-Roig drove in the 1970 Belgian GP
@@santir3690 nice infos, thanks
@@fabulouscarcharts5467Have you considered doing these races online?
up until 1966, Le Mans cars were faster than F1 cars. It wasn’t until regulation changes in f1 that year that widened the tires and wheel track of the cars, (and maybe some additional hp) that f1 surpassed Le Mans
Okay, did not know ! I will definitely test it soon, thx
There was just a very tiny boost in power with the engines doubling in capacity, nothing serious.
Also the change from 1.5L to 3.0L engines.
Main thing was the doubling In capacity lol.
Nope, that is not true. In 1950s and early 1960s there were effectively no sports car prototypes, and Grand Prix cars were faster. Early prototypes of 1965-67 could have been sometimes faster, depending on circuit.
Yes, in 1970-1971 the Porsche 917 LH reached 390 km/h plus.
That's top speed. That doesnt mean its fastest overall. The comparison here is fastest around a lap. And F1 will always win
@@TheProkonover I looked it up and it does seem like the 917K from 1970 was faster around a lap of Spa then that year's F1 cars. The track was something completely different back then though...
@@Da_Osta Yes, it was much more open and high speed.
@@TheProkonover Yes, thats true, i thought it meant just top speed and was quick to comment.
@@Da_Ostathebfastest LM car was the WM P88 with 405.7kmh(255mph roughly)
I'd love to see some side by side (split screen) clean laps for comparison. Without the mistakes and crashes, I think the comparisons would be much different.
In the 70' the Porsche 917k, 917/30, the Matra, Ferrari 312PB where faster than a F1 car, in the 80' (before F1 turbo era) Porsche 956B and 962C where faster and betwen 2008 and 2013 (before F1 hybrid era) the Peugeot 908 and the Audi R10 and R15 where also faster. And well, if you want, you can include some GTP cars in the list (American endurance).
Finally someone who can actually do some research
I think the start of Group C is comparable to the flat bottomed F1 cars of the early 80s. I remember hearing that Stefan Bellof in a 956 held the Silverstone track record for a while
Edit: sorry it was race lap record, not all time lap record.
also Nordschliefe
Group C was slower, even in qualifying trim. No records were held over F1 cars when they raced on the same track.
@@bartomiejczerwinski5897as mentioned in my previous comment, Stefan Bellof held the Silverstone track record. Although I don't know how long he held it for
@@aydankhaliq2967 Unfortunately you are wrong. Show some evidence for this claim.
@@bartomiejczerwinski5897sauber c9 and the jaguar where faster, their times could be competitive on the f1 grid
the other cars are just stalling the f1 car from chasing down the leader so you can just get a bunch of le mans cars and make them stall the f1 car and let the fastest guy get away
It just took itself for the ahoy grifter
In the early 70s the Porsche 917 lap on Spa was faster than the F1 lap times...but this is biased towards the F1.
The IA Nissan should had won and the TS050 was more than capable of doing 3:20s on race pace. Also the 917 was faster than F1 cars if you look some history.
Besides put on perspective how much lighter and agile F1 cars are compared to those tanks.
Assetto while a good sim is not completly accurate since is made out of mods...
Audi R18 had 1000 bhp with the hybrid too.
I had the chance to Chat With David Brabham about his experiences in real life racing when I was driving for Brabham Esports, he was asked what his favorite car ever was, he said it was the XJR-14, and he told us that it was faster than the Brabham f1 car he drove, which goes to show how crazy group c got in its final years.
The 90s AI Nissan had checked out. Shame it crashed!
Not really a good comparison in 1970, the Porsche 917 was actually capable of 246 mph even then, which would have blown past that F1 car like it was in reverse. And that instability at 223 mph would have hampered them from actually winning I suspect that year. I think it's worse in AC than IRL. Would love to see those cars raced for real and see which really wins.
While fun, I'm not sure how much sense it makes to compare race cars that were build for very different purposes. Endurance racing is as much about speed as it's about reliability. Most F1 cars back in the day wouldn't even last a race, much less 24h, it's just a different breed.
Guess what I'm trying to say is that "le Mans cars have no chance" isn't as clear as the video might suggest. Up until the mid 60es, Le Mans cars were faster on average, it wasn't until F1 started to adopt bigger engines and better aerodynamics which gives them superiour power to waight ratio and corner speed. That's what gives them an edge over most over race series.
Even in the video it's not as clear cut. The Can Am 917 gives you an idea what the 917 was capable of if it was trimmed towards shorter races, and it beat the F1 cars. The Nissan would won the 1990s race if the AI wasn't dumb, and the LMP1s were very close, they are absolutely compeatable with the right trim.
Completely agree but, as you said, the purpose of the video is to have fun :) thanks for the insight
I love how y’all pushed the cars
Yep, can am was faster than F1 back then
Indeed, but can am regulations were completely different from Le Mans ones. I wanted to mention the canam 917 nevertheless, hence the final scene :)
1970 Spa-Francorchamps 1000 KM Fastest Laps:
Overall: 25 Porsche 917 K Pedro Rodriguez (MEX) 3:16.500 258.321 km/h
Pole Position: Overall: 25 Porsche 917 K Pedro Rodriguez (MEX) 3:19.800 254.054 km/h; 1970 Belgian Grand Prix Driver United Kingdom Jackie Stewart United Kingdom March-Ford Time 3:28.0 Fastest Lap Driver New Zealand Chris Amon United Kingdom March-Ford Time 3:27.4 on lap 28. They added a chicane at Malmedy for the F1 race so it is not a completely straightforward comparison. Le Mans cars were Group 5 & 6 in the years 1969-1971. Group 7 Can Am cars were always faster than F1 at Mosport and Watkins Glen when raced on same track.
Aside from any F1 car from pre-1966 regulation changes (as mentioned in another comment), i think 2014 *might* have been the only point in F1 history where the field might be slower than Le Mans cars. When the hybrid regulations first hit the cars were so unbelievably slow they were barely faster than F2 (one of the backmarkers set a laptime slower than the F2 pole in season opener. Though if we go by just how slow the backmarker is, then we can just look at the entirity of late 70s to 90s where we got many unserious backmarkers setting qualifying times that are 10 seconds to minutes behind pole even in short tracks). From 2015 onwards it did got better, as we can see the 2016 car here is able to beat a TS050. But the drop in speed from 2013 to 2014 is so big it actually made F1 lose a huge amount of fans (as if the switch from V8 to V6 hybrid wasn't enough). This is also why we got the regulation change in 2017 which re allowed F1 cars to hit breakneck speeds with insane aero after years of getting held back (arguably since 2009). So pairing a 2014 LMP1 (Porsche/Audi) against a 2014 F1 (Mercedes) can give us interesting results
Hey guys!
All the data is on the internet. Let's look at Silverstone from 2014 season for example:
WEC pole time: 1.42.7 (dry track)
F1 pole time: 1.35.7 (damp, although started to dry out a bit, drivers used slicks)
F1 fastest lap of the race: 1.37.1 (dry)
The track layouts were the same.
You can also look at results from other circuits of that season: Spa, Austin, Sakhir and Interlagos, which were common for both series. Even on the shortest circuit (Interlagos), F1 pole time was still 7 seconds quicker that the one from WEC.
So, although 2014 F1 generation was one of the slowest in the last 9 years, the comparison with 2014 LMP1 is still devastating for the latter.
@@kamilborowski2064 oh well looks like i was wrong after all haha. Really should stop being lazy to look things up, thanks a lot!
They were probably much closer, 2009-2015. Anyways, great video
You should have done the early 1960s cars, not the late 60s cars. Le Mans cars of the day were faster
I would’ve added the 787B just for the screaming contest
Ha ha true, I hesitated creating a 1991 entry just for that (actually, I just realize the car was also present in 1990, too bad)
Yeah, screaming but slow as f...
What if you used the championship winning F1 cars of each era to make the comparison? Would that be more accurate?
AC AI is a tad jittery. I think you hotlapping the cars would be a more square comparison. Nonetheless, i really liked the idea :D
IF THE BLUE NISSAN DIDNT CRASH IT WOULDEVE BEEN A W FOR LEMANS
Around Spa, the 2016 F1 cars were around 8% faster than the Porsche 919 (and 10% faster than the Toyota TS050).
The F1 car would have had a lead of at least 6 seconds on the Toyota by 1:56 in your video.
And by the end of the Lap, that F1 car would have had an easy 20 second lead. Not 2 seconds.
3:05 Yes the Ford GT40 of 1966/67 was fast, but that GT40 Mk II with 7.0L engine was already racing in the *1965* Le Mans, even if it didn't finish. There wasn't much difference between the 1965, 1966 and 1967 fastest qualifying laps either. In 1965 Formula One, the championship winning car was a Lotus 33 with Coventry Climax 1.5L engine producing about 210 bhp. If you compare fastest qualifying laps in F1 from 1965 to 1967, for example at Spa there's quite a big difference.
You should have put the sauber c11 in the 1990 race
I hesitated, but technically it took part to Le Mans only in 1991 (despite participating to 1990 championship, if Im right)
Neat vid! Take a like! Though choose a differect color for the next next time. The yellow was really hard to read.
1:50 They touched!!
10:06 Alain Prost done it
For me the closest car in terme of perfomance between 24H cars and Formula 1 is the Peugeot 905 evo that has a 3.5 liter engine like in F1, I'd like to see the results
It weighs 780kg, compared to the 600kg of 90's F1 cars, the result would be obvious.
Even the XJR-14 wouldn't compete, as even if it was said to lap similarly to contemporary F1 cars, it only refers to the midfield F1 cars, put on the faster F1 cars and they'll still be faster
Think the 1993 Williams was using a 3500 cc V10, but it revved about 4000 rpm higher, and was 150 kg lighter.
I've just looked up some times, the 92 Williams was on average 5s per lap faster than the 905 Evo 1 Bis at most circuits that year.
Different cars for different jobs in 1988 Martin Brundle's car was clocked at 248mph down the Mulsanne straight, there has never been an F1car that can get anywhere close to that, and I doubt that any of them could run for 24 hours. Around an F1 track for 200 miles I would expect the F1 car to win every time.
F1 -- 1965 1500cc SPA p.p. 3:45.400
WSC 1966 SPA1000km p.p. 3:47.400
1 year of distance.
390 without a roof over my head? That’s pretty nutty.
Should have used the Sauber C9 but not the Kunos one. The gear ratios are wrong and the car maxes out around 320kmh which is not real. Btw, where did you get the mods from?
There are a number of issues with the comparisons here.
The single biggest is not using truly period-correct track configurations.
Not only were there no chicanes on the Mulsanne in 1967 or '70, but there were no Porsche Curves, either. There also was no Dunlop Chicane. There was no Dunlop Esse in '67, '70, or '90 as well. Furthermore, Mulsanne Corner was slower and tighter, with a straighter approach in 1967 and '70, while in '90, Tertre Rouge was still notably slower and tighter than it is today. In 1967, there was no Ford Chicane, and still in '70, it was just the single chicane there right before the pits. The Dunlop Chicane was reconfigured after 1990, too, making it more favorable to cars with better cornering.
The lack of accounting for all of those benefits the F1 cars, which weigh much less.
Additionally, those aren't the fastest cars from 1967, or the fastest car at Le Mans in '70. You were running the GT40 Mk.I by the looks of it; the Mk.IV, which was the top contender from that contingent in 1967, was on average at least 6 seconds faster than the 330 P4, and the Chaparral 2F was pretty similar on outright pace to the Ford Mk.IV.
As for 1970, on the average, the 917Ks would have seemingly also been several seconds off of the pace that the 917Ls could do. And I'm not sure that the Pole-sitting 917L even had Porsche's best driver lineup overall at the controls.
Regarding Group C/GTP, even just from 1990-92 or '93, what the cars were capable of improved by multiple seconds a lap, even on shorter circuits, let alone Le Mans. And at the tracks where both CART Indy Cars and IMSA GTPs ran in 1992, the GTPs were faster in Qualifying.
In terms of real life, in that 2014-16 window, the Fastest Lap in 2015 was a 3:17.475 set by the Audi R18. The Fastest Lap in 2019 was a 3:17.297 set by the Toyota TS050. Of course, the modern Pole record is a 3:14.791 from 2017, also set by the Toyota.
In 1967, Fastest Lap, which was faster than Pole, was a 3:23.600, tied for by 2 of the Ford Mk.IVs. Both the Ford Mk.IV and Chaparral 2F, depending on the source, had 520-560 hp. The Mk. IV was capable of 220 mph, with the 2F more in the 205-mph range, but the Chaparral was more nimble, as evidenced by its overall win at Brands Hatch that year.
The actual figures for 1970 are a 3:21.050 Fastest Lap and 3:19.800 Pole. Come 1971, these came down to a 3:18.400 Fast Lap and 3:13.900 for Pole.
For Group C, from 1990 to '92 or '93, both Polae and Fastest Lap improved by 12-13 seconds, so either a 3:40.03 to a 3:27.47 or a 3:33.060 to a 3:21.209. (The Nissan that turned a 3:27.020 in 1990 only did so due to a significant mechanical malfunction.)
Actually, the 917/30 was geared for acceleration, not top-end speed. The fastest I saw there was 392 km/h, and a 917L did 396 km/h in testing in 1971. Where the 917 turbo kills the competition is in its 2.1-sec 0-60 time, its 3.9-sec 0-100 time, and is 13.4-sec 0-200 mph time. But it's geared to only get to 240 mph. Optimize it for top-end, it could probably leave the WM Peugeots behind, able to exceed their mark of 254 mph.
The AI Nissan should have been closer to a 3:30 if it hadn't gone off at Mulsanne. And given the 1971 Pole time in a standard, non-turbo Porsche 917L, the 917/30 should be capable of being easily under a 3:12 in reality, certainly under a 3:10, actually. And the 917L should be at least on par with the Lotus, even in race trim.
Honestly, in most years, it doesn't appear that there was such a huge gulf between Race trim and Qualifying setup in Sportscars. In the old days, it wasn't actually so uncommon for a Fast Lap in the Race to be even a tad quicker than Pole. And back then, race pace was more dictated by needing to preserve the car, and therefore not pushing its limits most of the time. In Group C, during the races, drivers had to hold back significantly in order not to run out of fuel before the designated distance; it had little to do with the setup or what the car was truly capable of on pace. And at Le Mans, you wouldn't have many clear laps at the front until you hit traffic.
Nice vid but there is one thing,these cars are never intended to compete against f1 cars.They are endurance racers,not hotlapping track monsters like f1
1. In 1970, Pedro Rodriguez was approx. 10 sec faster in his 917 than the fastest F1 qualifier in Spa! He also won the F1 race. Of course, old Spa was a very fast course, faster than Le Mans.
2. Another idea: try the 1.5l F1, from 1960-65, possibly even including 1966, first year of the 3l F1.
That R92CP sound like a R34 in gran turismo 4
You could just compare lap times at tracks where F1 and other cars raced. Notable comparisons would include: the MK 4 GT40 from 1967 (not the 1968 MK 1B in this video), the 917 and 512 from 70-71, the 312 PB from 72, etc.
A gloss-over of the actual data for 1971 LeMans makes this simulation laughably bad.
2016 F1 said "oh a 1v3? Easy claps"
1990s le mans cars was insane 💀
Amazing video! However I would've loved to see the texts better, maybe in white with a black background
Thanks, I will definitely change this for the next video !
thats a great video🎉
The better track to test it is Spa. Both WEC and F1 raced on it the same year.
That crash at 10:05 was ridiculous 😂😂😂
You should tried f1 2014 car vs these 2016 le mans cars
Years ago i checked times of 917 vs F1 and the 917 beat the F1 round Monza and Francorchamps.
Any chance you could compare 2015 LM and F1 cars?
I will make a second video that includes various suggestions from the comments. Apparently I missed many interesting comparisons.
In short distances, on the track, the only car that can beat a Formula 1 car is another Formula 1 car
What about the 919 without restrictions?
The Can Am Porsche is a missile
1966/67 F1 brought in 3.0L engines because sportscars WERE setting faster laptimes in previous years on the same tracks. (I think)
It would’ve been closer if you did this with the same era track with each one
Mods don't count because they aren't always realistic in terms of handling or acceleration. You literally have these cars in the standard game and could have been used. Plus the Ai is kinda stupid lol
he did use the standard cars wym
You need to change gearing in 917-30, way to short. Way over 400 km/t if right gearing was used
2016 cars might have been slow but the racing was so good
Moral of the story: F1 cars with their higher downforce and cornering capabilities are faster overall
should do canam vs f1 that was a intresting time
How about 1961-65 1.5 litre formula.
I'm guessing 1965 when Phil Hill qualified on pole at Le Mans with the GT40 Mk II with 7.0L engine.
In this Video are so many false information: Valteri Bottas broke the F1 speed rekord at Baku not in monza and by the group c comparision is no chichane the good option because at that era of le mans was also no chichane in the mulsanne straight .
Hi, you are true the top speed was in Baku. I guess "so many false information" refer to that one mistake.
However, the chicanes were introduced in 1990. Hence some group C cars were concerned by the new hunaudières layout.
@@fabulouscarcharts5467 The 378 km/h top speed was proven to be false and a telemetry glitch. The real top speed of an F1 car was 370km/h however that was in Mexico
The toyota TS 050 is an 2020 car ?? If it is, it's not the same era as the 2016 ferrari F1 car
Yea I’m pretty sure this was done irl with Fernando Alonso but he couldn’t finish the lap Bcs he didn’t have the fuel
Hmmm think there is something wrong with your R18. Probably running too much downforce. In Le Mans race configuration it can easily run 3'11 - 3'12. With a nice Q setup it can drop about 10 more seconds to 3'01. Its top speed should be around 347-353km/h at the speed traps on the straights. It gets to top speed slower than the TS050, but at the top end it's much faster, especially with a slipstream pull. Also - you can't simply drop in Group C and not have in it the Sauber C9. It's like mentioning Group B and leaving behind the Audi Quattro.
There’s no comparison, f1 cars only need to race for 60-70 laps. LMP need to survive endurance races of up to 24 hours
When F1 competes for full 24 Hrs then we can compare which is faster.
I truly believe the broken wastegate R90CK would stans a chance against the F1's of that era
They get close but now try around Monaco :)
I think in 1989 the Le Mans cars would have won. Thanks to the chicaneless Hunaudieres stright, and the driver not making a mistake. I think the gap coming towards the end of the lap would have been too large. The top speed of F1 at that time was about 330-340, whilst Group C was hitting 370-380. The straight is so damn long that it is longer than some entire laps of F1 tracks, so top speed is everything.
400 even
@@blankfiile Yeah, but the WM Peugeot is special, as it was basically created only to achieve that goal of 407 km/h. Over the entire lap, it leaked time to the likes of the Sauber's and Jaguar's. I would probably chose the Sauber to go up against Prost's McLaren, as it is over 3 seconds faster than any other Group C car at the time.
I think that you confused Fords (1967part ) it was the Mk IV the fast one not the GT40 😅 or you writed wrong the date in the video chapter 🤔
anyway the first one from 2016 was so close 🤯
6:26 the F1 sound 🔥🔥
15:00 lol did this monster really existed 🤯💀
Basically a le mans car is better cause he can keep pretty much same pace for much much longer time, some of those f1 can't even hold 2h race... Whereas le mans as we know hold a day
Anyone have the links to the le mans 1990s cars and the ferrari from the 1970s?
Since they brought a Nascar to lemans, maybe they should have an F1 car there too
bro where's the 787b
So what i am getting here is 90's protos can win agenst an F1 car of the equivalent decade not only that but 70's could as well if everything goes right
90's protos had the biggest gap behind the F1
@@zavodszkiabel7919 well that was due to drivers mistake but the nissan was just faster anyways
if you wanted le mans c ars to win you should have done the early 60s f1 cars, they were SLOW in a straight line
when you compared group c to f1 the turbo f1 cars would've been a much better match, people don't realise how insanely fast the early 3.5 na cars were,
if you didn't notice the 1990 ferrari was only 4 seconds slower than the 2016 ferrari
The question is completely wrong.
If you are just talking about acceleration nothing beats a Top fuel dragster. Nothing is close to that.
If you are talking about top speed over long straights, as at Lemans, the prototypes can't be beaten.
However, go to a track like SPA and nothing will even be remotely close to a F1.
Your question is wrong since you mix different classes that obviously are built for different circumstances.
Was that the wrong F1 car used in the first race.?
You should not compare at le mans circuit. The Le Mans cars are designed mostly for this racetrack and F1 cars are not. So if you compare it, choose racetrack that was using by both or was not using by both. It's more fair if you just wanna know which is faster.
Should we use Watkins Glen instead? Then we can include other sports cars such as Can Am cars which raced at that circuit.
Should added a 917 LH
Curious to see how the Mazda 787b would be like against an F1 car
one of the slowest gr. C cars
It would get fucking demolished lmao
Needs the peugeot 905 to be a proper test really
Sounds amazing but overall an overrated racing car,wouldnt be my pick from the groupe C era of cars
Are you using vr in this vid?
Please use a different color text it was kinda difficult to read while the cars were racing
You can't compare cars in a sim. You can't compare those 2 types of the cars at all because they have different purposes. It's like comparing wrc car and dragster
I think the best shot would be 1988/1989 pre-chicanes introduction at the mulsanne straight. The 400km/h in the straight would be difficult to compensate in the few corners for the f1s. Also using post 1990 group c cars makes no sense, because they were forced to use f1 engines, but have worst downforce and more weight
Nissan R90 a monster, not at the 24h Le Mans. Having a powerful engine means nothing, it also needs to be durable, in order to finish first you first need to finish the race. Hurray for Mazda 787b.
you should have race on the old layout
Very nice video, would be funny if you took the classic le mans track when using the classic cars, to make it even more accurate.
You just had to do it for 24 hours.
endurance test?
1970 seems to look the slowest era.
The heavily restricted Mercedes w11 F1 beat a very unrestricted no rules Porsche LMP1 evo still 🤷🏻♂️
917-30...well not a LeMans car but a faster full bodied prototype
the lmp can have a chance of winning on technicalities, 2021 haas F1 vs whatever toyota or porsche was running on 2021😂
Yo where are the 80s cars? I want to see the 956 up against a toleman
the guy in the 90's era ferrari doesnt know about F1 why is he pulling out of draft and braking when he doesnt need to? it annoyed me so much watching that part
How about 2016?
modern day f1 is very high downforce so it makes sense why the f1 car is slower in the corners than the le mans car