Triumph Speed 400 prototype ridden! New single-cylinder naked tested in the UK | MCN Review
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MCN's Deputy Editor, Emma Franklin has been out testing a pre-production version of the Triumph Speed 400 here in the UK. You can read more about the bike here: www.motorcyclenews.com/news/n...
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I like all these small cc bikes appearing lately, you don't need 200hp to have fun! Riding a slow bike fast is more fun than riding a fast bike slow!
what a line👍
Yes, but nothing compares to riding a fast bike fast!
Strongly disagree but to each their own
Definitely agree...the most fun I had on two wheels is when I owned an r3..
@@mstelios4259 except only a few people can pull that off and not get arrested by God.
Looks great - bet it will sell well. I don’t like that so many reviewers refer to it as an ‘entry level’ bike though. Why can’t a small bike be good in its own right?
I was interested until I saw it was a single. I would have been drooling all over it if it was a twin.
This certainly seems like a proper motorbike for many types of riders, beginner or not. It reminds old geezers like me that the riding experience is really about having fun!
@@patrickfitzgerald2861I still ride a 1984 xl350r
Because it is an entry level bike in Triumph's range. Like an A class is an entry level Mercedes...
Lovely looking bike to my eye, as a 73yo it’s time I looked for something like this to hopefully keep me riding into my 80’s, the 99.9mpg sounds like a prototype default more than a realistic mpg. Great intro Emma
I'm 6yrs behind you and relate only too well in what your saying. Personally I'm looking at getting an old 600 hornet.
It's performance is near enough identical to my old ZRX1100 and it's not gonna break my legs when stationary at traffic lights etc.😊
Stay safe out there.
I think more than a few old geezers like me (I'm 70) will end up buying one of these. Sadly, that might actually hurt their sales with the youngsters. 😉
Yup, 75, have put a down payment on a red one without even knowing when they will come to Canada. Currently on a 390 Duke which is OK when you rev the bollocks off it. Looking for a bit more mid range…..in a light bike.
If I ride like an old man(which I am!) I can get 80mpg(UK) out of my T100 900cc Bonnie, spirited riding over 3000mls doing the NC500 I averaged 73mpg. I don’t think 99.9mpg is dream world on a 400cc Triumph. As a comparison to give the Bonnie figures credibility I’ll be buggered if I can get more then 54mpg out of my Tiger850 sport!
I've got a Street 900 and it'll do 170 miles at legal speeds showing two bars left on a tankful, and it only holds 12 litres.
If my reaction to this bike and its scrambler variant is any indication Triumph should do very well with this 400cc platform! Last year I bought a 390 Duke after a 20+ year break from motorcycling but am 100% sure I'd have brought one of these if they were available at the time. Definitely think this will be the no. 1 small displacement bike in regards to "Pride of Ownership"!
Like you, after many a year out of the saddle I returned to riding a few years ago. My bike of choice... 2017 Duke 390 no less.
@@sonny9608 Best thing I did to mine was invest in an FI Optimizer (FuelX Lite)
@@duncanmillar277 I'm looking at one of those at the moment. Any other mods you'd recommend to the 390 (got a '17 one)
@@_Makanko_ You'll thank yourself for doing it, bike runs ALOT better i.e. smoothed out with no intermittent cutting out upon clutching down to a stop etc. Other beneficial mods I've done myself are baffle removal from stock silencer, SPAL fan conversion running Engine Ice coolant (this really helped running temps here in S CA).
This is a full production bike in India and has gotten the motorcycling community extremely excited!
Going to be great for me , I’m in the experienced , getting old bracket , big bikes to heavy , hips playing up and have trouble getting onto those 830 mm seat heights . So looking forward to getting a test ride 😊👍👍
Very good, Triumph Speed 400 is priced around £2700 ex showroom in India.
I hope it's priced affordable in UK too.
@@bharat1366 INR233000 lakhs is 2171 British Pounds buddy.. not 2700.
@@bharat1366 You confused British Pounds with US Dollars!!
@@Vickyrocks247 oh my bad, thanks buddy
@@bharat1366 Most welcome buddy.
No question.......if I was new to motorcycling this would have me sprinting to my local Triumph dealership! This is a rare chance to rejuvenate the world of biking in te UK.
I think it will sell well to old boys looking to downsize and hipsters. Those after a sportier ride will surely prefer KTM as a brand.
@@BikingChap nah, us hipsters are already ruining regular modern classics. Turning the heavy T120 into a Scrambler. Turning the Scrambler into a Sumo. Turning the Thruxton into a Speed Twin. Turning the Speed Twin into a Thruxton, turning the Bobber into a Speedmaster, etc. It's the hipster thing if you do Triumphs. Buy the wrong model, and turn it into a half-assed compromise between what you are "building" and what you could have just purchased from Triumph and had the right one to begin with.
If I see another T120 with dirt tires, or another Speed Twin with clip-ons, I just might puke.
@@caferacerqu33n nicely put 😂
Nice review of the bike on UK roads. Positive reviews out here in India too. ❤
Looks great, looking forward to the Bike Show in November to get a good look and maybe even throw a leg over ! Looks like it’s on sale in India at just over £2200 which could mean £4999 when it’s in UK showrooms, taking all that loverly tax and shipping etc into account. 👍🏼
If shipping and import duty is more than doubling the price surely Triumph could afford to make this in the UK.
I've been riding for 4 decades now and I'm glad to see the small bike segment making a return. Back in the 70's and 80's there where some really cool small bore bikes in the 40 - 50 hp range that were great fun to ride. Great on gas, 1 or 2 spark plugs, cheap insurance.....glad to see bikes like the CFMoto 450SS/NK and new releases from Kove. I'm really digging the Speed 400......with a proper exhaust, DNA air filter and a reflash it will be a ripper....probably 47-50 hp.
Mais um grande projeto da Triumph! Com certeza será um sucesso!
Triumph have really done a great job with this. Lovely looking bike 💪🏻👍🏻
Wow this is a very professional review. Terrific 👍beautiful shots
Really enjoyed your review. Thanks Steve in NZ
Most beautiful bike of 2023 and years ahead. And this bike will never age just like Enfield
Thanks for an excellent review. Good info. I've ordered a blue Speed 400, so fingers crossed it'll be a belter! :)
Excellent presentation, would love to see more reports from Ms. Franklin!
Great review...i currently have a cb1100rs...im not getting any younger and the cb is just getting a bit too heavy for me now at low speeds....definitely going to get to the local Triumph dealer to have a test ride on one of these when they get them in.
Thanks for the review. Can’t wait for a side-by-side with the Duke 390 .
Good looking bike. I ride a Pan 1300, but this would be good for a town ride or the occasional short country ride.
For me it all comes down to price, 400cc with nearly 40hp is excellent. I like the 350cc Enfields, but 20hp is just not enough ( for me ) considering their weight, but they sell well because of their price. I am hoping the Triumph will be under £5k
Dream on 😂
Its 4k in India
Totally agree, RE really dropped the ball with that power spec. This is going to be an instant classic, especially if it becomes illegal in a few years :(
Somewhere between five and a half and six I reckon !
Well its made in india so it will be cheaper i think
Hi Emma - really good enjoyable short review; will be nice to hear you reaction when the production bikes arrive, along with pricing details. Looking forward to that…. Thanks for now. 👍😎❤️✅
Bit small cc for me. But I love the looks. I'm a big Triumph fan. Another well presented video Emma. Cheers.
There is 900 and 1200 as well
This is already launched here in India and is a massive hit already , with over lakhs of bookings. It is priced at INR233000 ex-showoom ( 2171 British Pounds) and hence it undercuts every Motorcycle in price point in it's segment. We were expecting it to be around INR300000 but Bajaj-Triumph dropped a bomb with this aggressive pricing! I am also buying one. although I am having a 2019 Hayabusa and a 2016 GSXS1000F ,, but this bike just tempt you to buy it!! Deliveries start from August.
And for reference Duke390 , which is also made by Bajaj , costs INR287000 (2675 British Pounds) here .
Yeh bata ke kiya milgaya tere ko….video dekh ke khush rahe gaandu…faltu ka gyaan baant raha hai
Yeah, am wondering why it's termed a pre production model !
@@goan2 Coz they are preproduction models buddy. All reviews we are reading here in India are also of preproduction bikes.
There is NO WAY they’ll price it this low in the UK, even pro rata.
"Lakh" probably makes no sense to viewers outside Indian subcontinent. 1 Lakh = 100,000.
At 72 yrs old my Ninja 500R is plenty of bike for me...after almost 60 years of riding everything up tp BMW 1600, having a bike that does 80+ mpg, screw and nut tappets, twin carbs.....is wonderful!
Really like the look of this and the scrambler version, especially as I am an Interceptor 650 and Classic 350 owner. I am also interested to see if the rumoured 4 cylinder,Honda CB400 Superfour and Kawasaki Z400RS come to fruition, and more importantly, if they make it to our shores, I do hope so. With the ever increasing speed management appearing on our roads, you don’t need mega bhp’s to have fun.
I’ll come up on my new Scrambler 400X for a visit when I get one Ian. Certainly do like the look of them.
@@AkaWilf they do look exciting. I watched a MCN review of a pre production bike, nice looking bike, with a half decent power output. I am not into the “Scrambler” trend, but I do like the Scrambler Triumph 400.
Thank You Miss for a brilliant review, I love Triumph motorcycle's and this looks like it is perfect for me Thank you for a Brilliant review and Kindest Regards. Ride Safe.
I love that it is a small bike, yet it got the range of a tourer (3,5l/100km with a 13l tank) besides all the other perks.
I have not rode in 28 years and have been looking at the Honda Rebel 500 to get back into it but I am really thinking of going with the Triumph Scrambler 400 after seeing your video. Super nice looking bikes!
Skip the Rebel, from someone who owns one.
I agree, I had a 500 Rebel and it was okay but not great. The engine is a little bland and I got 'tennis elbow' from the unusual rider position/low seat height. The 400 should have a more engaging engine and though the Rebel looks good, the Triumph looks more impressive, cheaper too (£4995 - I've been told).
Looks a great little bike - is the quality on par with their other bigger bikes? it looks like it is...??
Singles are back in fashion !! Thanks to Great collaboration
Great stuff Emma, nothing wrong with a bike feeling soft, its hardly going to appeal to riders ripping up the nurburgring.
Looking forward to the scrambler version🎉
Great review, thank you! 😊
Yes I definitely want one next spring of 2024
Looking forward to Scrambler test ride!
Good job on your review. This makes more sense over the 20 hp 350 Royal.
i bought a triumph cub brand new in 1963 the 400 looks just as good
I got from a Suzuki Hayabusa second generation to a Triumph Street Triple 675R who i really do like and now i think i also could have fun on that Triumph Speed 400 ... Strange times indeed. 😄
I ride an 1198cc Ducati and, yet, I would have so much fun with this Triumph. Haters post but they don't ride.
Looks really good! Hope it will have a fair price👍
Price out the door is going to be important for this.
Great to have some more choice in the lower cc brackets.
To your Surprise it bas been Priced 2078 pounds here in india for 1st 10k Customers
After that 2170 pounds
should be around 4k quid
@@sud5529indeed but sadly we’re being warmed up for £5,000+
@@BikingChap How does that compare to what Royal Enfield has to offer? I wonder if Triumph can match the fit/finish and reliability.
Thanks for enabling the subtitles again.
Already pre booking crossed over 10k in India. It will big impact on 350 to 400 cc segment bike's 🔥
10k bookings in less than 10 days for Speed 400. I believe even Scrambler has crossed 10k now. So more than 20k since July 5.
Excellent first return, thanks !
Don't know why everyone is saying it is for new riders!! I'm 42 been riding 20 years and definitely getting one of these, and yes, it will be my only bike!
It's the retarded yt thing of trying to look hardcore it's the same I every subject matter indirectly diging at things whilst faking your being nice about it like calling 200 bhp a .ow bhp car or gaming at below 4k etc they cannot help them selves beginners bike learner bike etc it's infuriating and imature
I'm with you, Dan. I'm 55, been riding nearly 40 years, and had 26 bikes; the Speed 400 looks like a brilliant proposition to me. It'll be my only bike too.
I love how quiet it is!
thanks for the review
Yeah, I did enjoy your video. Good job Emma.
I love the look of both the new 400's, but I think they messed up with the clocks.... for me they should have had an analogue taco and digital speedo.
Probably an age thing, but I prefer a speedo needle whipping around the dial, than a jumble of digits. Even though my bike has your preference. I'm old haha
Why are small engine bikes always referred to as "entry level", they have a real place. Why are smaller engine bikes not available with heaps of technology options like bluetooth and cruise control. Why are so many of the really cool bikes made for people that are 6ft tall plus and have the strength of Tarzan? Come on manufacturers if the options were there we'd pay for them
Need to see the scrambler review.
Love it. You can use all the power. cheap to ensure and a lot of fun.
I was thinking Royal Enfield Hunter 350 before seeing this. This will hands down be my 2nd bike. I was going to join the Triumph family on my 3rd bike but I see no reason to wait after seeing this! Always dreamed of owning a Triumph it will be mine Spring 2024!!
What a beautiful looking motorcycle.
170 kgs ... we'd ALL gladly go for the 171kg version WITH A FLIPPIN MAINSTAND. One day you'll have get the forks off so good luck with that!
Price the Scrambler below £5500 and I'll be tempted to have one in Khaki Green.😊
Looking forward to trying this, although it’s probably going to be too small for me
At 6’2” I suspect I’ll have the same issue. Like the Enfields, this is predominantly for the Indian market I suspect.
Scrambler will be a better option
This is the bike I have been waiting for. A motorcycle that isn't a 125 or a 600, nice design, economical and fun to ride. What is a deal breaker for me is the price. If it's more than £5300, I won't be interested. It shouldn't be expensive due to the Indian engine.
It's a Triumph engine made in India, that engine will be exclusively in Triumph bikes. Bajaj are not allowed use the engine in any Bajaj bikes.
The engine is not Indian. It has been designed by Triumph totally. The fact is that this bike will be manufactured by Bajaj Auto, India taking Triumphs standards into consideration.
Fun fact - they sell it for 223k rupees, 2200 pounds in India. But in Europe it will be around 5k.
@@Puccini000 Yeah it's not much more expensive in India than the Royal Enfield 350s. Roughly double the direct conversion Indian rupee to UK pound puts it almost bang on 4500 pounds; even pushing it to 5000 or so should be a very competitive price against the other 300-500cc options.
@@TheDeepakVarshney I was referring to the engine being is made in India, so should be less expensive.
Deposit is in for a Scram for me. I have been riding over 12 years now... have a few other bikes in the garage. This scratches my itch for a backroads burner with some capability to go up some gravel roads.
I’m here in the states. Dealer said should be in this December. Told them to give me a call. I’ll take a green one.
And once I get it. I’am going to road trip from Kansas City to Tampa Florida. Maybe take a week or 2 doing it. Post on YT.
I put a deposit down a few weeks back before the price was released. Apparently the Speed 400 is going to be £4995 otr, which sounds like value for money to me. I've been riding for 50 years and was looking for something exactly like this! Triumph nailed the design and Bajaj helped to get the price just right. Can't wait for January!
I really like the look of this small Triumph for me it should sell really well, nice one Triumph 👍🏼
It's getting a good reception from journos, I like it and would be a potential customer but I'd like to know at some stage, does it have a centre stand option? What is it's max payload and how does it cope with pillion comfort? I'm sure I'll find these out in time but it would be nice to know in advance of the launch. Thanks.
It's good to see Triumph making a smaller bike that won't break the bank. I bet they're going to sell lots and lots of this bike. A 400 is in that displacement range that's going to be efficient and yet still have a enough power to have some fun and take on long stretches of motorway at 70 MPH.
Does ot have a site glass for checking the oil level , i find that's missing on the trumpets
I downsized from an 1100 just over a year ago, for an RE Scram. As a previous Triumph owner, I have to say that I am interested.
I’d wait to see what the water cooled 450 Enfield is like. It’ll certainly be cheaper than this.
@@BikingChapthe Indian motorcycle market is on fire. every month we have new bike launch. all made here. competition is keeping prices low. also aprillia ,400 was spotted being tested.😂
@@sharathvasudev interesting times, can’t wait to see what the Enfield 450 is like.
Lovely looking bike-I’d be torn between this and the scrambler model
Triumph Speed 400 and Scrambler 400 has been unveiled in India on 5th of July 2023. Booking has started for the Speed version and likely bikes will be delivered by this month. The production model is same as that of yours. The machines for India are 6 kg heavier due to leg and saree guard ( in accordance to the Indian traffic rules) and heavy duty tyres keeping in mind of not so better average Indian road conditions. Rest everything is similar. Priced ex-showroom at INR 2,23,000.00 for the first 10,000 customers and then on Rs.2,33,000.00. Several test rides revealed that this machines are going to be super hit in India. Truely Triumph as per the build quality and performance and truely Bajaj as per the affordable price 👌
Looking to downsize from 1200 gs so will be taking a look at the scrambler
This bike looks great. Ive just sold my 390Duke which I owned for 6 years and loved and if it goes like the KTM it'll be a fantastic little machine.
How hard would it be for all these "reviewers" to find a couple of nice KTM's to compare against the Triumph on the street and on a road course? Or on a smooth dirt track? Shouldn't be that difficult. Maybe they were told not to?? Time will tell.
@@doylegaines1319 I don´t think they are allowed to at the moment. They seem to be mostly restricted to stating their personal first impression.
The bike was only launched a few days ago ffs.
Emma, great job on this!
I wish the tank branding was more discreet, I hope they offer different colorways
It’s embarrassing frankly, but they know the target market lap it up.
wow gorgeous, the bikes nice too !
I’ve ordered one , last 2 bikes I’ve had are 95 hp and I’m just not using any of the power. Looking forward to great mpg and hopefully extended tyre life. Oh and cheaper road tax
It has a nice exhaust note too.
Looks production ready to me. Hope Australia gets the model. Bet we don't like we miss out on many Honda models eg the big 750 Maxi scooter.
It's coming.ive already put 5500 down,on road on Sydney will set you back,8999, big ones.om very much looking toward Jan 24.
Riding well be the proof, but this may be a brilliant move for Triumph! The last 675 Daytona was a wonderful expensive bike that didn't sell well. However, a 10k sport bike may sell in the numbers they need. In the past, Triumph has gotten a lot out of modest components with careful tuning and development. If that's the case here, it may be what the market needs. The first Daytona was a 500cc twin that was overshadowed by the 650 twin - but the 500 won the race the bike was named after
Looks like a very fun little bike
I love the Meteor 350 i bought last year, but if this was available then I would totally have bought it instead. I may have to trade in....
Certainly going to be a few 350 Enfields going cheap. Good stuff.
Amazing bike
Triumph knows that this engine is designed & made by Bajaj, that's why they be saying so many times its like Triumph! Not bad in my books because Bajaj makes good engines & bikes! I understand Triumph wants to maintain its image!
From everything I have read, the whole bike was designed and developed in Hinkley. Bajaj no doubt brought their experience of how to turn that design into a high volume manufacturing excercise. Best of both worlds.
@@jonr1122just like the g310 this is nothing more than building in India because it’s cheap and then pretending it’s a premium British / German product. Ironically Enfield don’t pretend to be a premium British brand and are far cheaper and do very well.
Depending on when this hits the showrooms in the UK - and the price - it could well be my next bike. Well, this or the scrambler version. Seems to have just the right amount of power for the road, and occasional motorway, and light enough for an old bugger like me.
It costs a bit more in India than the Royal Enfield 350s do, which go for around 4000 pounds I believe in the UK. There's a good chance its UK price will be around 4000-5000 pounds which for everything this bike has and does should be an incredible price and major selling point. Even if it costs closer to what the RE 650s do it's a pretty good bike for the money so the further under those the price comes in at the better.
In india it was launched for around 2100 GBP! ✌️
@@myselfyuvi double the price is the rule of thumb
@@TehFrenchy29with a 650 twin Enfield being 5995 there’s a limit to how high they can push the price. 5000-5300 seems most likely.
Im wanting to replace my gs with something light and classy - cant wait for a test ride on the street scrambler !!
We are now going into the other direction with displacement. Everyone wanted more and more but realizing you still get there with medium or smaller displacements. Weight is always an issue. I have a heavy bike and some light bikes and the biggest difference is just being more relaxed on a lighter bike. Less expensive bikes is going to be the big trend for a while.
This a good looking bike if priced right it should sell really well.
Wish they’d given the scrambler spoked wheels though or at least an option to spec them
This bike is better looking than the 900 version.
We need some more of these small capacity bikes to suit taller riders without being scrambler or adv style bikes
Nice looking bike, I assume one has to ask for a center stand? Should be standard equipment.
The front mudguard is too short but otherwise looks good.
Booked here in India!!
👍🤔good report 👀I’ve just took one out a sweet bike like you said things I disagree with the one I took out was not smooth acceleration it was lurching in lower gears ⚙️ like a snatching on off maybe a fault some where other wise a sweetie like you said handle bars a bit wide also nice a candy 🍭 good handling and responses well a good comute for the money 💴 £4,995 I’m also checking a Enfield Himalaya scram 411 cc at £4,000 both nice 👌 keep safe 🙏
Similar looking to Enfield HNTR 350. I wonder if extra cost gives you better Bike ?
Its all about the retail, if it matches the enfields CC price it will sell plenty, if its around the cl500 it won't
It's available at 2100 GBP in india. So do your math✌️
Is the front fender plastic or aluminum like the 1200?
plastic
Closest I've ever had to this was a Suzuki GT250X7. 30bhp, 20ft/lbs torque and 160KG fully fuelled. It was a total gas to ride, light, fast and a wheelie monster.
This Triumph has me wondering if there is any way I can _squeeze_ one in next to my Thruxton, Daytona 955i, VFR1200F and 1989 FZR600.
By far the best looking sub 400cc bike
Looks great should sell well when is it coming down under
Good intro to the bike. Compared to its competitors, the Speed 400 engine is good looking, IMO. The others are washing machines in comparison.
Washing machines? 🤔
Duke 390 is a washing machine
@@sharathvasudev right ok. 🤷
I love that u presnt a 1 cyl bike .
Big time