You can say that for all three shows... Sg1 should have got a movie revealing the program to the public. Atlantis should have dealt with the Wraiths, and Destiny... yeah, thats why we're here under this video.
I thought that to at the time, with regards to SGU. But then as I got older and matured, so to did my thinking and the writing of the show seemed to ressonate with me. Then covid hit and it really nailed the stake home, all trapped together on board a ship, sometimes in complete danger, sometimes, people as we discovered do crazy shit when locked up for long periods of time. I do feel SGU was done dirty, they should've had season three to finish the story at least, even if its just to finish what was going on. If you see David Blu, he streams, we've chatted about the show, and he's as sad/angry as we are!
There was another solution from the comic series which was very interesting... Eli discovers a section on Destiny with hibernating Ancients. One survived and he revives her. She helps to fix Destiny, and also we then learn the back story of Destiny when it launched many millennia ago... that was super cool...
I gave up on Syfy after SGUs cancellation. I didn't even watch the expanse until Amazon took over because I knew it wouldn't be cancelled. Wrestling killed Syfy.
@@TheAmethyz that piracy always causes ‘lost profit’ is a fallacy. The average person who engage in piracy will usually download and not pay. But those people weren’t going to pay for the IP in the first place. They were never going to pay, they consumed it because it was free. If you make money from pirating, you can be sued for damages, however. Also, piracy has been known to expand and enhance certain IPs, and bring attention to something that otherwise and ordinarily would not have gained such attention in the normal marketplace. Look at Transformers and the current Third Party Transformers toy market. Anyway, it was cancelled by studio execs, nothing to do with piracy.
Stargate was a guilty pleasure that was kind of corny and fun. Then I saw a bunch of the first episodes of SGU in a row and was blown away. It was such a jump in quality and really kept me at the edge of my seat.
@@antopranjic8676 Quite a view Sci-Fi shows tried to reproduce Battlestar Galactica...which wasn't a bad thing. The problem is that they only copied one aspect of BG, more adult themes and complex character development. However, BG got off to a rip roaring start within the first 5 minutes of the first episode. There was SGU, Ascension, Gravity, Caprica. My God it took 5 or 6 episodes before there was a hint of a plot developing in those shows. It was almost like the writers couldn't write character development and move along a plot at the same time. European Soap Operas had more science and intrigue than those shows.
I agree 100%. The old shows were not very deep, incredibly corny, but still enjoyable entertainment. I liked them. SGU was a real story with some depth. But all the best SciFi shows get cancelled (with some very few exceptions)
I played one of the many background crew on the show for the entire run of it, and it was a great experience. In many of your clips, I can see myself in the shots, and the entire cast was great to work with. Funny thing for Robert Carlyle was that after SGU was canceled, the studio set for the gate room was torn down and replaced with the interior town sets for Once Upon a Time, which filmed in the exact same studio building right after SGU, so Carlyle was doing one show after the other, in the exact same building. I do remember when we received news of cancelation and it wasn't a good feeling for anyone. A lot of disappointment everywhere. Since there was so much continuity in that it really was the same group of people there from the start to end, we all did feel like a big family. And at the last episode, luckily I made it into one of the statis pods :) yay! I may still live! Little bit of trivia: - The Stargate Command Gate room, was reused as the Icarus Base Gate room. - Our holding areas on the pilot episode, were on the Stargate Atlantis set, which was next door, and it was a sad moment being in there knowing that it was not going to exist anymore. - The Destiny Gate room, did involve the actual gate rotating and spitting out those air blasts (loudly). For the scenes where the Destiny gate was active, they actually fitted in a screen into the gate, that showed the portal effects which helped in lighting, so you could literally walk around it when the gate was supposedly "active". - Destiny's main "meeting room" was actually a modular set that had removable walls that let the production reuse it as other sets like bio labs. - The doors in the Destiny set, did have actual ancient writing on them, which was too small for the camera to see, and was supposedly translatable by the writers and prop designers. Though I never asked them what they said. - Since naturally, we started filming long before the show aired, about half a year before, we got to see the design for Destiny itself. It was brought in as a print out for the entire cast to see, and many were rather surprised at its design, as it didn't at all look like the Ancient ships in Stargate Atlantis, but many were quote in awe of it. - One funny moment involved Louis Ferreira, I recalled, when we were "assisting" them in putting on the exosuits (which were the same costumes used in Stargate Atlantis, just slightly recolored) was that they were EXTREMELY hot to wear. The actors sweated constantly, and when Louis picked up a bottle of water, the armor plates on the suit on the arms actually couldn't let him bend his arms enough to bring the bottle to his face, which then conscripted us into being his "waterboys" for that scene. It was quite a surprise to him and to us.
@@GateWorldDotNet your description of the show had one flaw, the drones couldn't track them. They figured out what types of stars destiny refueled from and had command ships waiting at all of them.
The thought of that right now the Destiny crew is asleep in stasis is heart wrenching but also hopeful they will pick it up one day as it would be way to do so. BRING BACK SGU
It’s crazy that SGU was 15 years ago. I grew up watching the episodes while they released, I was 8 years old 😂. And my dad made sure we watched all of SG-1 and SGA beforehand. I must have been 5 watching SG-1, we used to get every season on DVD from the local library. And when we got to SGA we would get the mail in Netflix DVD’s.
This comment made me feel so old 😂 Having grown up on McGuyver, and then later SG-1, Atlantis and finally SGU, not realizing that got cancelled 15 yrs ago. Still miss and rewatch episodes every now and then.
Man, i feel that so hard! My dad brought me to the stargate franchise too! We watched all new episodes together on tv as i was a child. It was just awesome and i am rly glad. So sad that there is nothing new about stargate in all those years. Still my favorite show(s).
Honestly, I feel like this could be one of those happy accidents. I absolutely LOVE the idea of them getting this band back together in nearly it's entirety after the now 15-20 in real life years and keeping that fact reality within the story of the show. Essentially pulling a Picard, coming back after 20 years have passed, and continuing the story forward.
Easy enough to say that due to power constraints, they didn't work 100%, so some aging took place. Or due to humans not being the same as the Ancients, the technology didn't work correctly to fully suspend them. Either way, it's an easy, yet plausible explanation.
@@joelbaker9366 There's plenty of cannon showing the stasis tech works perfectly on humans. (ie. the same as it did for the ancients) It would take a mighty handwave indeed to use the original case. It's way more likely they'd just mark them all dead or leave them in stasis, and ship in a new crew. (possibly not even from Earth / SGC.)
I wish we had more stargate but honestly, after seeing what they've done to star trek and star wars, I'm fine with stargate remaining untouched. Safe and sound like a statue locked inside a display at a heavily guarded museum.
@@jfbeam It would be very easy, have them get stuck in the pods for like 10k years (refrencing og Dr Weir in SGA aging in the atlantis pods while protecting the city while it was underwater) as the ship drifted across the galaxy gap, then have them pull some time travel shenanegans and go back in time to their version of 2024/5 as their current age.
Heavily underrated and yet so damn good! It's really a shame they didn't decide to do seasons 3 and beyond. I'm sure if SGU had been let go in these years now it would have been much more successful. Maybe now in the age of widely available streaming services like Netflix, Amazon etc. we'll get some more great stories from this universe. A small dream I'm sure for many of us.
i re watch all 3 seasons and the 3 movies in order at least every 2 years. There is a correct way to place the movies, sg1 and Atlantis together to feel like they are all happening at the same time and its so cool to see the references to each one while watching the other. It would be so cool if they brought back universe and just explained the aging as a lack of power to fully sustain the person in each pod more so than just keeping them alive though they age at their normal rate. Still so many wonderful possibilities that could come from a movie or new season. even just a new branch of the show at this point to come out and with new technology over the years they could go to save the crew or find that they all perished but either way give us an answer and closure to what has happened after all these years.
My son and I have watched sgu every year over Christmas since 2013 and is a tradition we hope to continue for many more years to come. It would be amazing if we could add a season 3 to our 2 days of father & son bonding.
you guys watch 40 episodes in 2 days?!? that's dedication! I've binge watched some shows for entire days before myself, but I don't even know if this would be possible... this would be like 14 hours per day! so I guess it IS possible... kinda
@wtfbbq It's definitely doable but we take around 16 hours a day with breaks and food as you can't have a binge session without food and drinks. The 21st and 22nd is father son day and mommy daughter days.
I really like the idea of Eli holding out in a jumper or something. The PTSD of solitude in a confined space for years would be an interesting angle to explore for Eli for the season.
I loved this series for the same reason a lot of people didn't. It was dark and often you never knew who you could trust, unlike SG1 and Atlantis where they were like a family who went out, saved the world and were back home in time for dinner. At the time it was cancelled a lot of fans said they didn't like it because it didn't follow the formula of SG1 and Atlantis.... but i loved that about it.
@@BillysFingers But even discounting the finale the really disturbing conflicts in the crew were starting to convert into something entirely more awesome. They were doing such a dang amazing job of the character development and the darker tone while rough in the beginning just got more and more and more awesome as all the possibilities opened up.
@@advil000 You're right about that, the character development really did get awesome as the series went along. I'd love it if they did a season 3, even now.
Heh, I just remembered that scene. Yeah, it was a very cool concept that was executed fairly well. The realization of what the ship is doing was a goosebumpy moment.
Lol. I was watching it a few years ago. Thinking to myself.... YES something to watch and look forward to.... lite did I know. Until I searched and found it was canxelled. 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬😡🤬
I was so addicted to this show. The star gates were an exciting concept for first contact.😊 I thought the discovery that the ship was powered by a sun was kick a$$.
It is so funny this video appears when I literally just finished watching the show. 15 years ago I was too young to enjoy the darker tone but recently I decided to rewatch the entire show but with Adult eyes and it was way better than I was expecting and was so sad when it ended abruptly.
This show was so ahead of it's time. People in 2009 weren't ready for a dark / gritty Stargate. As time went on though, this too was just as amazing as SG1 and Atlantis.
They went full edge lord though with the transfer stones... The idea that they got to do things they did in other people bodies showed that either one screenwriter tried to smuggle in another sci-fi trope, or they went for the shock value. I cringed at every episode with this crap happening.
@@crank1985 how else would it have worked? given the in-universe limits? (which is, in-universe, the transfer stones are the only thing humanity knows about to allow communication across such a distance in real-time) Personally, I'm glad they stuck with the continuity of the universe (known technology that was learned from previous episodes) rather than just inventing some brand new 'magic communicator' that would solve the issue.
@wtfbbq Just don't put sex on the screen. It looked like XXX parody mixed with early episodes of Bold & Beatiful. With Chloe as a "Brooke" candidate. Tge show could work as a progress from gun-ho SG1, but through more science needing in Atlantis, to more needing about ship and gates, while soldiers fight whatever the heck was on each planet. The time - recording episode was brilliant, so for example. But then they did this weird thing with catching the other shuttle with resurrected settlers to die again plus ship messing with them. From the first episode they should have weird dreams. That could be THE PLOT of the season. Ship is testing them and doing low level defence. Those without ancients gene are starting to loose their marbles. Thriller would've worked way better than discounted tension BSG Galactica they gave us.
While it was kind of SG1’s fault that this technology existed, SGU did rewrite how it was used by making it a two-way transfer instead of it being one way. The ick and cringe factor still exists and I they never really went into how to resolve or much consent could be actually given in these circumstances, both morally or legally. Some of the things they did with another person’s body was… questionable - even in today’s standards, maybe especially with today’s standards. I think personally it would have been better to have very limited or even no communications with Earth until much later as they did with SGA.
I miss this show, it came during a hard part of life. It was a great escape from life. There's nothing better than turn on Flogging Molly and realizing there are no days worst than that yesterday.
SGU could have been great, I remember at the time, a lot of anticipation and hope. However season one killed it. I knew many people who gave up on it. The consensus was 'If I want to watch a soap opera where everyone hates each other and back stabs, I can watch EastEnders'
@@ptonpc Its a funny thing to think that S1 was ahead of its time, it really dragged in the week by week format (The constant time changes didnt help either) but if binge watchable it works quite well these days. Were there some pacing issues at times? yeah sure but overall it was a quality drama with fantastic Sci Fi and a deep seeded lore to build from.
It was mine too. don't get me wrong, i do not think the others are bad at all. But SGU, expanded upon what was already established, it was a nice direction. the story was reallly goood
As a dedicated fan of the Stargate franchise, I am writing to express my deep appreciation for the incredible stories and characters that have captivated audiences for so many years. Despite the time that has passed, the Stargate universe continues to hold a special place in my heart. The rich lore, engaging narratives, and beloved characters have left a lasting impact, and I believe there is still so much potential for new adventures and explorations. It has been 15 years since the premiere of Stargate, and I kindly request that you consider (Studio) continuing the Stargate franchise, whether through new series, films, or other media. I am confident that new stories set in the Stargate universe would be met with great enthusiasm and support from the fan community.
I remember this show not getting as much positive reception as SG1 and Atlantis got during their runs, but, like DS9, it got much better as it went along and I enjoyed it more (though, I never watched DS9 up until a couple years ago, I was one of those TNG/Voyager purists back in the day but I've grown to appreciate its storytelling style as I've gotten older). If any one of the Stargate shows were to come back in some form, SGU would probably be the easiest to jump off from rather than create something wholly new, as stated in the video.
The crew interactions were just so insufferable during the first season in a misguided attempt to manufacture edgy character drama that it never really recovered from that.
I think it was because people felt cheated because Atlantis ended on a cliffhanger It needed a concluding episode or movie the same as Stargate SG-1 got two movies. So people weren't really invested in an expansion of the IP with earth under threat. However I do feel the story of universal superior in its machinations and writing Style
I just imagined the crew of the Destiny going to the far reaches of the universe, and decoding the secret of the cosmic background radiation, to discover it says "WHAT IS SIX TIMES NINE?"
A code, difficult to translate and hard to get to. Deciphered after years, it turns out man was created in God's image. The translation shows an image of a large phallic mushroomish shape and the words, "Gawd was here"
0:49 them choosing to be there is so incredibly well earned. Especially when you can watch it all at once. Remembering back to 2010, it felt like it took forever. And ... It was like 1.5 years... So that is a while for the viewer
I skipped this series when I saw Lou Diamond Phillips in all the ads. Then years later, I binged it. Damn - I was surprised how good it was. The episode with the Stargate seed ship was amazing. Let's not forget why he volunteered. It was him or Rush - and nobody trusted Rush not to kill them in their sleep.
Me sitting here thinking "There's NO WAY it's been 15 years since Stargate Universe. That was like a couple years ago, right?" Checks Google: Insert Benjamin Button gif
This shockingly does not even bring up the comic, which does cover a path for the story to go after the S2 ending. The gist I can remember of it is... While working on the last pod issue, Eli goes to a unexplored section of the ship where he finds actual Ancients in their own stasis pods. I think from there he decided to wake one, as... they are Ancients. Surely they could solve the issues at hand. Which they kind of do, but looks like it starts leading into another merger of 2 very different peoples into one crew. I only read like 1 or 2 chapters. Maybe thats all that was made. As the plot from the comic is not any of the 6 mentioned, im guessing it was entirely made by someone else that was not a writer on the show. So not close to canon. Still worth mentioning though.
I should have mentioned the later comic story, although it's not canon and it's something of a footnote to what was being considered in the writers room in 2010.
I appreciated the comic book's explanation of Eli's survival. The narrative revealed that numerous sections of the ship were inaccessible to the crew, similar to the partial exploration of Atlantis. It frustrates me that numerous excellent Sci-Fi series are terminated prematurely due to a general disinterest in prolonged character development, with a preference for immediate action instead.
Idea #7: Destiny finds a stray star between galaxies. Eli uses that star as a refueling point to jump the void to the next galaxy via the on-ship stargate. Eli has 3 years of adventures on an alien planet or several planets while waiting for Destini to catch up to him.
While I wasn't too big a fan of the angsty teen drama in SGU, I thought the overall story and setting was actually one of the best of all of Stargate and even one of the best in Sci-Fi... The 'meta story' of trying to investigate a code/message from the creators of the universe is a cool idea... being stranded on a ship that has problems and untold discoveries of its own, in a distant part of the universe with even MORE possibilities for exploration and discovery... was just such an awesome setting... I've always been a fan of 'exploration and discovery' in my sci-fi shows... "to boldly go where no man has gone before" as it were... and SGU had such an amazing setup in this regard 'exploration and discovery' was probably the main reason I loved SG1/A, with humanity starting from ignorance, exploring new planets, gaining new technology, new weapons, developing the F-302, building the Prometheus, discovering Atlantis, developing intergalactic travel, ect ect... it felt like SGU was just about to hit its stride when they canceled it =(
Im shocked they didn't think of using Atlantis's or Asgard tech to build power generators and just gate to the ship with more personnel and clone new bodies for the people in the ships computer. Replicator or Organic, depending on the choice in technology. That would be one badass opening for the show comeback.
I really hope they will ever continue with this show. The abrupt ending was creepy. The idea of maybe a 15 or 20 year journey looks good to me, aging would than be explainable. Things did change on earth since than. I wouldn't like a 100+ years, that would be very complicated, although, yoy could use a lot of new players. Maybe Amazon or Netflix is interested?
It could be 3 to 5 years on the ship, but with the way time works in space, it could be twice that or longer on earth. If there was a noticeable time gap on the ship, then it's plausible for 50+ years to have passed on earth.
The problem was that most of the characters' cast were unlikeable and it took way too long to get them to work towards a common goal. If they had gotten to the end of season 2 in season 1 then it may have stood a chance at success.
Exactly. I dont get how so many are saying how the characters were so good in SGU, especially compared to the characters in SG-1 and SGA. I hated all the drama and idiotic civilian pulls they had and then there was Chloe, ehhhh.
Exactly this. For me, too much drama, too much wasted time on stuff that was, ultimatelly, meaningless. Do I need to see people being sad in the past, screaming in the present, cheating, being hypocriticall to the moon FOR SO LONG? Could it not have been shorter at least? Do I really need to know about all of the bad life decisions everyone here has made? If I do, again, does it have to be so slow? Does it further anything? No? Well then can we care about the fact that we are on a spaceship at least sometimes? You know, the premise of the show? I swear, at times, I was rooting for Rush succeeding in whatever crazy thing he was doing simply because he was the only one interested in the interesting stuff and seemed to be fed up witht he office drama as well as I was. We went from episodic format of SG1/SGA about exploration and saving the world with family found and with slow story growth, to episodic story of being an ass on ancient ship with wondering if some story will be present eventually or if this is all it is ever going to be.
Same here. I love SG, but I hated SGU. It was exactly the opposite of SG1. Those guys cared about each other and always had each others' backs. In SGU, the characters hated each other. It was like watching an endless episode of the Big Brother house...constant drama, poor writing, and just not what I wanted in an SG show at all.
After watching this (well-done) proposal synopsis and carefully considering the above suggestions, somehow, I feel that all of these above ideas can be successfully be written into a new continuing storyline for SGU, which includes all of the surviving STAR GATE FRANCHISES. Putting these ideas onto a dimentional storyboard will prove it. It will be like knowing what the puzzle looks like before it's put together.
While not the biggest SGU-Fan (see my other posting in this comment-section): I'd have gone with Eli staying awake, finding more power and frankly learning about and fixing a lot of the ship and maybe even doing stuff like writing manuals for the others, making audio-logs etc., setting up things so the ship is ready for the sleepers to emerge from stasis! This way Eli would grow a lot, become a sort of leader (who can truly stop Colonel Young cold and even disagree with him, same for Rush!)
This was my favorite Stargate and I always force new friends to watch it, LOL. The last episode was for me a tear jerker and a tragedy. SGU was, like BSG, unlike any other contemporary SciFi, TV or theatrical. It was so smart and edgy and took the time to really flesh out the characters and relationships. I've always hoped it would come back, its certainly ripe for continuation!
I remember when the show was cancelled, I had a hopeless thought that maybe they could bring the show back after a three year gap as a nod to the season's cliffhanger ending. Still very sad that it didn't happen.
This show and Dark Matter are the only two shows that I'd give anything for them to get a chance to finish their stories. I've even told JM that id pay for the revival myself if i ever win Mega Millions lol
Comment 1000. That's all I wanted to say. And, that I keep myself satisfied by imagining all the incredible places we would have experienced through our favorite stories and characters. Long live SGU.
The idea of using an energy entity, reminds me of the of SG1 coming across the planet full of clouds but was actually a sentient species. Finally bring the Furlings and explain their absence would have been a great season 3.
Great video. I thought a good option would be some new aliens find Destiny with the crew in stasis. They are unable to run the ship on their own but can access logs on who is in each pod and selectively awake some. Letting them have a measure of control over the humans and allow for actors that aren't available or don't want to return to the show.
I still can't believe they cancelled this show JUST as it was beginning to get really good. I wasn't overly impressed with first series, but by the end of the second I actually thought this could be brilliant. Then they cancelled it, shocking decision....
The Syfy channel was making some very stupid decisions back then. I can't say how they're doing now, I don't have cable anymore, but my guess would be not so great still.
I'm open to any of those ideas, honestly. I just want season 3. My favourite Stargate series and the most awe-inspiring, mind-blowing sci-fi I've ever seen. It inspired in me a new wonder and fascination with space and its mysteries, and I will always be grateful for that.
I love Stargate so much… I watched the original movie and SG1 as a kid and grew up watching Atlantis and Universe and was so sad when they announced they were canceling SGU. I still hope they revive it at some point! I loved everything: the original movie, the SG1 series and movies, Atlantis and Universe. I've actually watched them over 100 times, you could say I'm a real SG nerd. Since I first watched it, I've been constantly going through them chronologically, starting with the 1994 movie, then SG1, the SG1 movies, Atlantis and then Universe. And when I'm done, I start over again. But please don't mention Stargate Origins or Stargate Infinity...
I my head I always imagined Eli didn't get his pod fixed. But worked out an alterative power supply that allowed him to keep a low level of life support. However it was a drain on the system so the trip took longer than 3 years (7+) When the crew revive they come out and find stuff changed on the ship. Jury rigged repairs, an overgrown hydroponics lab/room. Etc. Then they find Eli, older looking. Slightly insane from the isolation. He managed to fix a ton but never had the power to do anything with the fixes. The Season could be about Eli's recovery and rediscovery of systems he fixed while everyone was out. Back on earth, people have moved on. But some haven't and keep a watch on the stones. Personal relationships have moved on thinking they had died making the crossing. I think 7 years was enough for this. Damn I loved this show when it aired and every re-watch since. But I was shocked when you said at the start that it was 15 years!
I think a combination of storylines would be great. Take the scenario of the crew being in stasis for longer than expected, about 10 years in the future, while being rescued by the Novans. Meanwhile, Earth also launches a rescue to Destiny. The reason the Novans sought out the Destiny to begin with is because they are facing a major enemy of their own that they believe they can only defeat with the help of the knowledge contained on Destiny. This enemy is the reason the Novans left their planet to begin with, this enemy can destabilize planets so that it appears natural, they have been on the run from them since. Do they help the Novans with their newly attained access to Earth resources? Do they give Destiny to the Novans and let them deal with the problem on their own? Does the crew feel they have been away from Earth too long that starting over on a new, more advanced society to be the better choice?
i re watch all 3 seasons and the 3 movies in order at least every 2 years. There is a correct way to place the movies, sg1 and Atlantis together to feel like they are all happening at the same time and its so cool to see the references to each one while watching the other. It would be so cool if they brought back universe and just explained the aging as a lack of power to fully sustain the person in each pod more so than just keeping them alive though they age at their normal rate. Still so many wonderful possibilities that could come from a movie or new season. even just a new branch of the show at this point to come out and with new technology over the years they could go to save the crew or find that they all perished but either way give us an answer and closure to what has happened after all these years.
I loved SGU. It was such an amazing fresh take on the Stargate story. I loved the characters and their politicking. The idea of destiny and its mission was so interesting to me. I was so annoyed it got cancelled. But it is still two of the best seasons in scifi history in my opinion.
Robert Carslyle was perfect to play what the character had to be!! I was put out at first but… wow ! Almost didn’t give it a chance he was to well known of a face for me to feel like I could immerse myself in “Stargate” when I’m seeing Trainspotting, Formula 54, and 28 weeks later!
I was never really a fan of the other SG series but instantly fell in love with SG-U, I was devastated when they axed the show early. I still watch season 1&2 at least once a year.
I still like the movie idea that After the Ori War, they could use Supergates to bring Destiny home.. but with that lingering mystery of the Cosmic Background Radiation 'message'.. was its Destinys launch that caught the attention of Fate and brought an end to the Ancient Civilization, or the Alliance of Races? The Knox always seemed to know more than they were letting on. The promethian legend comes to mind.. and the Ancients were 'stopped' from reaching out. The Ori themselves seemed to keep to themselves and not have any explansionist aims.. until SG-1 intruded on their little party.. did they know something? Do we live in at least a partial Dark Forest of the Cosmos?
Yes a convenient bit of mystery to avoid conjecture about what lies beyond. We were mystically stopped on all fronts! Sums it up nicely! it’s still mystical it’s bigger than ascension no advanced race was capable even Baal is laughing at us!! But really just like Sgu there is no way to agreeably sum up or venture into what is in beyond or responsible for the cosmic background noise so why make the mistake of trying when they have a trillion galaxies the show can explore first. Any attempt would be laughable if not offensive to some demographic of their fan base. Sooooooooo tangent! I mean really Daniel Jackson Ascends…. Decends…. Ascends again meets all ancient advanced races wakes up naked in Surrey multiple times 🤣🤣🤣and still no earth moving soul shattering answer!! All he got was a bent stick and condescension from that serial killer 🤣🤣some riddles from a fairy and the greatest friends in the galaxy!! But we had ten 15 amazing years of adventure. I for one am happy they do not try to reach beyond their intellectual grasp as they have quite possibly the most intelligent passionate and dedicated fan base of any show ever. They can’t put one past on all of us!
I really didn't like the soap opera drama stuff that they put so prominently into the first season, but like a good fan I pushed through it and the second season turned out to be really good. It really is a shame that the damage was already done and many had lost interest in the show during season one so that the rates were too low to get renewed into a thrd one. Well, at least it was a somewhat rounded out cliffhanger compared to other shows that just stopped in the middle of the action or rushed to conclude 3 seasons worth of story into the last 5 episodes or something like that.
I agree. I believe that the stones amplified the uncomfortable, manufactured drama and ultimately delayed the growth of the characters as they accepted their fate. There were enough interesting plot threads within the ship and the unexplored galaxies to keep pulling the audience out of the experience by constantly wasting time back on modern Earth, exploring pointless characters, and unnecessary plot there.
My problem was not in particular with the stones or contact to earth, just with too much drama in general. Too much soap opera, too few SG1/SGA vibes for my taste in the first season.
Freakin loved this show. It had a few problems - I never liked how easy it was for them to communicate with Earth, but otherwise it was awesome. HATED when they cancelled it.
I’m still upset that Daniel didn’t get to visit Destiny. It took him a long while to finally get to Atlantis - he & Vala could’ve brought some excitement to Destiny.
The comic (although not canon) had an interesting one, where Eli finds ancients on board, they fix the ship, and find the materials to synthesize Tretonin to cure the plague they still carried.
It would unbelievably awesome to see more episodes of Stargate Universe, even though it's just a tv show, I was heart broken to find out the show was over, I felt like a part of me was abruptly ended, a part of my life was gone again, an adventure taken from me a very, very long, long time ago I've been stuck here for a long long time
I mean I get why it was cancelled.... everyone was fighting with each other... and when you thought you got past it, they started fighting again. Atlantis felt like 3 or 4 sg1 episode crammed into one episode, but SGU felt like a single plot point dragged out and padded with filler. I remember that episode when they realised the ship was flying towards a star and were all "we're doomed". Ii was just sitting there thinking "nah guys this is an ancient ship... have a little faith it's probably refueling or something". The season 2 plot points were better and I do wish it got continued... but the damage was done
I agree. It was them trying to mimic Battlestar Galactica, which had the same problems as you describe. The crew in BSG was also constantly fighting each other. And every plot in BSG dragged out because 90% of episode time was devoted to character drama. Hell, both BSG and SGU had the same, boring "civilians vs military" plot. Still, the show abandoned a lot of that in S2, which make me sad it was cancelled, despite not being fond of S1.
@BoroMirraCz the show itself wasn't why it got cancelled. That was the SyFy channel's fault, they were going in a stupid non Sci fi direction for a time there so they cancelled this show and many more others after that
I loved that show. Now I have this hope that someone resurrects it. My favorite plot is their decedents, and them showing up to awaken them would be neat.
I heard a fascinating solution for the cliff-hanger in a YT video comments section. Eli figures out a way to harvest fuel for Destiny while in transit between galaxies. I believe the idea was basically that he uses the shields to form a type of scoop that would funnel matter/energy into the collectors, generating power for the ship much like it does while star-diving, but in much smaller amounts due to the minuscule amounts of mass between stars. However it is made up for by the fact that Destiny is sweeping a large volume of space and doing it continuously for several years, providing enough power to get the ship (with Eli still alive) to the next galaxy.
The show needed to make the worlds they visited feel more alive and interactive, which means more humans or humanoid people needed to live in a lot of the planets they visited. Because of its enclosed story setting, it consequently meant that the characters themselves had to carry the show; but in order to raise the profile of Eli, they had to make others unable to solve problems for the boy wonder to solve for them, which in turn reduced the impressions of those other characters. While Rush was the typical protagonist with inner conflicts, he was also made into an almost constant outcast; which meant if the audience emotionally invests in Rush, then they end up with a negative impression of the social interactions with him. Then there was the cournal who acted as the authority figure and leading the action scenes, but outside of that then it was just the back-and-forth of what was constantly perceived to be potentially hostile, and when they made up then other antagonists had to be brought in again. The show had many problems in its storytelling. It needed to expand the worldbuilding more, and it needed to give more purpose to more characters. Jin, Gin, however her name is supposed to be spelled, was a great addition; but only became a quick plot device to become yet another sacrifice to make Eli grow as a character. Telford made an awesome recovery as a character, and Varro took on the traditional SG role of the reliable, stoic and strong outsider.
@@Fistfullofpizza The communication stones, eh? Yeah, I think you're right about that. The amount of screen time the communications using the stones took up was just way too much. The stones also became the standard way they introduced guest appearances for episodes, except for when the lucian alliance made their way into destiny. Imagine if they had done it like stargate atlantis and kept them isolated from the start, and made it so the worlds they gated to would've been populated instead, and then developed the story that way. I mean, the writers would've needed to explain the presence of either humans or humanoid people on planets so far away and so far apart, but it would've made it possible to do the worldbuilding and character developments that way. They could've still had that lucian alliance thing and introduced Varro that way, but Jin/Gin, however it's spelled, should've never been sacrificed so quickly. The stones could've been something they discover later, kinda like how it took a while until stargate atlantis became able to contact earth again.
I was not really a big fan of the whole Stargate series, but this one really caught my attention, and I liked the charactours and story line it had. Then of course they just end it and that was that. Figures.
Very well researched and presented. Thanks. Maybe with SyFy being on the Comcast chopping block, we could see a revisit of the true Sci-Fi gems from the potential new owners.
03:00 this part of the story explanation is wrong. they could not just follow/track Destiny trough FTL everywhere it went. The drones/Command ships, were only able to track the signature of an active stargate. And then go to both of those locations. Which was the whole reason they could no longer resupply using the gate's, also in the end a command ship was parked at every single planet that had a gate on it, since they figured out thats a way to track them they don't no anything about humans only the fact there's a gate. as explained by Rush in the final episode. This spawned the plan to go to the next galaxy. Yes, I am a total sci fi nerd. 😁
Actually they figured out that Destiny needed a star to recharge, is why towards the end Destiny had to risk refuel at a Super Giant blue star if you recall.
How has no one else seemed to have thought that earth would build a specialized ship that could essentially be a mobile spacedock for destiny to completely repair and restore it, send it with two Daedalus class escorts and have them detonate a star in order to send that small fleet to destiny herself? Ships entering hyperspace during a nearby supernova have been canonically shown to travel impossible distances in the blink of an eye, there's no reason that couldn't be done here even if it took several stars in several galaxies to make the journey.
As we know from Stargate Atlantis, stasis does not stop the aging process. It slows it down by 99%. While significant, eventually after many thousands of years in stasis, the human body will age out completely to death. So if the crew comes out of stasis at the current ages of the actors, with no CGI makeovers or anything elaborate -- then it would only mean one thing: they were in stasis for hundreds of years, at minimum.
Or that weaker stasis was in use, because Eli made imperfect repairs. Some people would hate him for taking their lifespan, only to discover, that it was a lie. Half of them are uploaded, rest is connected, because machines attacked between galaxies, while Eli was, awake, so he was fighting them alone and wasted power to save their minds. And he is now fixing the ship. Everyone is the thankful, only to discover that it was Eli's fault, because he found a single star behind the galaxy... Eli and Rush will switch sides, as the good and bad scientist.
i had the idea that they could say a technical issue caused destiny to travel at 1/3 speed due to power constraints but this happens after eli fixes and enters the pod also to save power the ship keeps everyone alive but unconscious but they still age the 9 years the journey took to complete, explaining why everyone looks older from there you can do anything... BRING IT BACK.
It took me a while to learn to appreciate SGU, but with every episode the series got better and better for me. That's why I regretted all the more that the series was discontinued. I could live with ideas one and two, and would be happy if they were to start a third season - although I know that won't happen, unfortunately.
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I always felt that Stargate as a franchise deserved a better ending than it got.
You can say that for all three shows... Sg1 should have got a movie revealing the program to the public. Atlantis should have dealt with the Wraiths, and Destiny... yeah, thats why we're here under this video.
We don't mention Stargate Origins.
I thought that to at the time, with regards to SGU. But then as I got older and matured, so to did my thinking and the writing of the show seemed to ressonate with me. Then covid hit and it really nailed the stake home, all trapped together on board a ship, sometimes in complete danger, sometimes, people as we discovered do crazy shit when locked up for long periods of time. I do feel SGU was done dirty, they should've had season three to finish the story at least, even if its just to finish what was going on. If you see David Blu, he streams, we've chatted about the show, and he's as sad/angry as we are!
@@davfree9732 why did you have to mention it come on man
blame syfy channel
There was another solution from the comic series which was very interesting... Eli discovers a section on Destiny with hibernating Ancients. One survived and he revives her. She helps to fix Destiny, and also we then learn the back story of Destiny when it launched many millennia ago... that was super cool...
I'm still pissed that this was cancelled!
You beat me. :-D
I gave up on Syfy after SGUs cancellation. I didn't even watch the expanse until Amazon took over because I knew it wouldn't be cancelled.
Wrestling killed Syfy.
Me too .
Same
Agree 😢
I’m still mad they canceled this show, I loved every minute of it.
It was getting so good. I really wish more people had watched and understood what they were trying to achieve.
Same
i hated season 1, season 2 grew on me and the cancelation made me go "aww, it was starting to get good"
I think at that time pirating was big thing so many lost profits affected propably this decision.
@@TheAmethyz that piracy always causes ‘lost profit’ is a fallacy. The average person who engage in piracy will usually download and not pay. But those people weren’t going to pay for the IP in the first place. They were never going to pay, they consumed it because it was free. If you make money from pirating, you can be sued for damages, however. Also, piracy has been known to expand and enhance certain IPs, and bring attention to something that otherwise and ordinarily would not have gained such attention in the normal marketplace. Look at Transformers and the current Third Party Transformers toy market. Anyway, it was cancelled by studio execs, nothing to do with piracy.
The fact that there's been no new stargate for years while bringing back every other show in existence is mind boggling
Considering the quality of the new offerings of other franchises I am ok with this.
I count this as a blessing.
also, scifi is niche and expensive to make
Amazon busy spending money on fantasy epics at the moment.
to the best of my knowledge that is a result of the major financial woes of MGM.
Stargate was a guilty pleasure that was kind of corny and fun. Then I saw a bunch of the first episodes of SGU in a row and was blown away. It was such a jump in quality and really kept me at the edge of my seat.
what are you on SGU was a clear drop in quality. the show had more money yes but writing was atrocious.
I still remember the first days SG aired on Showtime. I still remember the Colonel and Teal'c meeting in those first episodes. Good times.
@@antopranjic8676 Quite a view Sci-Fi shows tried to reproduce Battlestar Galactica...which wasn't a bad thing. The problem is that they only copied one aspect of BG, more adult themes and complex character development. However, BG got off to a rip roaring start within the first 5 minutes of the first episode. There was SGU, Ascension, Gravity, Caprica. My God it took 5 or 6 episodes before there was a hint of a plot developing in those shows. It was almost like the writers couldn't write character development and move along a plot at the same time. European Soap Operas had more science and intrigue than those shows.
I agree 100%. The old shows were not very deep, incredibly corny, but still enjoyable entertainment. I liked them.
SGU was a real story with some depth. But all the best SciFi shows get cancelled (with some very few exceptions)
I played one of the many background crew on the show for the entire run of it, and it was a great experience. In many of your clips, I can see myself in the shots, and the entire cast was great to work with. Funny thing for Robert Carlyle was that after SGU was canceled, the studio set for the gate room was torn down and replaced with the interior town sets for Once Upon a Time, which filmed in the exact same studio building right after SGU, so Carlyle was doing one show after the other, in the exact same building.
I do remember when we received news of cancelation and it wasn't a good feeling for anyone. A lot of disappointment everywhere. Since there was so much continuity in that it really was the same group of people there from the start to end, we all did feel like a big family.
And at the last episode, luckily I made it into one of the statis pods :) yay! I may still live!
Little bit of trivia:
- The Stargate Command Gate room, was reused as the Icarus Base Gate room.
- Our holding areas on the pilot episode, were on the Stargate Atlantis set, which was next door, and it was a sad moment being in there knowing that it was not going to exist anymore.
- The Destiny Gate room, did involve the actual gate rotating and spitting out those air blasts (loudly). For the scenes where the Destiny gate was active, they actually fitted in a screen into the gate, that showed the portal effects which helped in lighting, so you could literally walk around it when the gate was supposedly "active".
- Destiny's main "meeting room" was actually a modular set that had removable walls that let the production reuse it as other sets like bio labs.
- The doors in the Destiny set, did have actual ancient writing on them, which was too small for the camera to see, and was supposedly translatable by the writers and prop designers. Though I never asked them what they said.
- Since naturally, we started filming long before the show aired, about half a year before, we got to see the design for Destiny itself. It was brought in as a print out for the entire cast to see, and many were rather surprised at its design, as it didn't at all look like the Ancient ships in Stargate Atlantis, but many were quote in awe of it.
- One funny moment involved Louis Ferreira, I recalled, when we were "assisting" them in putting on the exosuits (which were the same costumes used in Stargate Atlantis, just slightly recolored) was that they were EXTREMELY hot to wear. The actors sweated constantly, and when Louis picked up a bottle of water, the armor plates on the suit on the arms actually couldn't let him bend his arms enough to bring the bottle to his face, which then conscripted us into being his "waterboys" for that scene. It was quite a surprise to him and to us.
Thanks for sharing your experience! I had a chance to visit Destiny's set, and it was truly a marvel.
man SGU is my favourite sci fi show ever made you got to give me a hint who you were on the show I have watched it 10 times.
@@ocirontariocryptidinvestig8010 I was one of the Asian male civilian crewmembers, I'm usually wearing a tan colored jacket.
@@SkepticalChris MY MAN !!!!
@@GateWorldDotNet your description of the show had one flaw, the drones couldn't track them. They figured out what types of stars destiny refueled from and had command ships waiting at all of them.
The thought of that right now the Destiny crew is asleep in stasis is heart wrenching but also hopeful they will pick it up one day as it would be way to do so. BRING BACK SGU
It’s crazy that SGU was 15 years ago. I grew up watching the episodes while they released, I was 8 years old 😂. And my dad made sure we watched all of SG-1 and SGA beforehand. I must have been 5 watching SG-1, we used to get every season on DVD from the local library. And when we got to SGA we would get the mail in Netflix DVD’s.
What about the first movie ?
Your dad is awesome!
netflix dvds haha, noice
This comment made me feel so old 😂 Having grown up on McGuyver, and then later SG-1, Atlantis and finally SGU, not realizing that got cancelled 15 yrs ago. Still miss and rewatch episodes every now and then.
Man, i feel that so hard! My dad brought me to the stargate franchise too! We watched all new episodes together on tv as i was a child. It was just awesome and i am rly glad. So sad that there is nothing new about stargate in all those years. Still my favorite show(s).
Finally! Finally my cliffhanged memories can come to a rest. A deep an wholesome thank you!
Honestly, I feel like this could be one of those happy accidents. I absolutely LOVE the idea of them getting this band back together in nearly it's entirety after the now 15-20 in real life years and keeping that fact reality within the story of the show. Essentially pulling a Picard, coming back after 20 years have passed, and continuing the story forward.
And with how old those stasis pods were they could handwave a little of the aging.
Easy enough to say that due to power constraints, they didn't work 100%, so some aging took place. Or due to humans not being the same as the Ancients, the technology didn't work correctly to fully suspend them. Either way, it's an easy, yet plausible explanation.
@@joelbaker9366 There's plenty of cannon showing the stasis tech works perfectly on humans. (ie. the same as it did for the ancients) It would take a mighty handwave indeed to use the original case. It's way more likely they'd just mark them all dead or leave them in stasis, and ship in a new crew. (possibly not even from Earth / SGC.)
I wish we had more stargate but honestly, after seeing what they've done to star trek and star wars, I'm fine with stargate remaining untouched. Safe and sound like a statue locked inside a display at a heavily guarded museum.
@@jfbeam It would be very easy, have them get stuck in the pods for like 10k years (refrencing og Dr Weir in SGA aging in the atlantis pods while protecting the city while it was underwater) as the ship drifted across the galaxy gap, then have them pull some time travel shenanegans and go back in time to their version of 2024/5 as their current age.
Heavily underrated and yet so damn good! It's really a shame they didn't decide to do seasons 3 and beyond.
I'm sure if SGU had been let go in these years now it would have been much more successful. Maybe now in the age of widely available streaming services like Netflix, Amazon etc. we'll get some more great stories from this universe.
A small dream I'm sure for many of us.
Everyone would be gay though
So far I've watch SGU 5 times and my next viewing will be in a couple of years and it becomes like a new old friend once more.
Yeah, I've watched Atlantis 3 times for the same reasons, feels like a portal to some better world which never came.
i re watch all 3 seasons and the 3 movies in order at least every 2 years. There is a correct way to place the movies, sg1 and Atlantis together to feel like they are all happening at the same time and its so cool to see the references to each one while watching the other. It would be so cool if they brought back universe and just explained the aging as a lack of power to fully sustain the person in each pod more so than just keeping them alive though they age at their normal rate. Still so many wonderful possibilities that could come from a movie or new season. even just a new branch of the show at this point to come out and with new technology over the years they could go to save the crew or find that they all perished but either way give us an answer and closure to what has happened after all these years.
SGU was finally my gateway into this franchise. I loved this show! I loved the concept of it.
My son and I have watched sgu every year over Christmas since 2013 and is a tradition we hope to continue for many more years to come.
It would be amazing if we could add a season 3 to our 2 days of father & son bonding.
you guys watch 40 episodes in 2 days?!? that's dedication! I've binge watched some shows for entire days before myself, but I don't even know if this would be possible... this would be like 14 hours per day! so I guess it IS possible... kinda
@wtfbbq It's definitely doable but we take around 16 hours a day with breaks and food as you can't have a binge session without food and drinks. The 21st and 22nd is father son day and mommy daughter days.
SGU was THE very best StarGate series! I thoroughly loved it!
I really like the idea of Eli holding out in a jumper or something. The PTSD of solitude in a confined space for years would be an interesting angle to explore for Eli for the season.
He woulda/shoulda been 'fine. NOT-every-one iz a, WEAK, Lil 'Snow-flake'.
ha yes what SGU realy needed was certainly one more psycologicaly screwed up persson .........................
@@keithrigsby-je5ui Sorry but no, not with that degree of isolation.
I loved that show. That there was a signal in the Big Bang noise was brilliant.
I loved this series for the same reason a lot of people didn't. It was dark and often you never knew who you could trust, unlike SG1 and Atlantis where they were like a family who went out, saved the world and were back home in time for dinner. At the time it was cancelled a lot of fans said they didn't like it because it didn't follow the formula of SG1 and Atlantis.... but i loved that about it.
I loved the dark setting but not the animosity of the crew.
@@abj136 I'll admit i would have liked them to support each other a bit more
@@BillysFingers But even discounting the finale the really disturbing conflicts in the crew were starting to convert into something entirely more awesome. They were doing such a dang amazing job of the character development and the darker tone while rough in the beginning just got more and more and more awesome as all the possibilities opened up.
@@advil000 You're right about that, the character development really did get awesome as the series went along. I'd love it if they did a season 3, even now.
Season2 reduced the animosity of the crew and the shaky cam and was defintely better.
I loved the grand sweep of the show - it really pulled you in. My favorite was the scene of the Destiny refueling, in the coronosphere of a star.
Heh, I just remembered that scene. Yeah, it was a very cool concept that was executed fairly well. The realization of what the ship is doing was a goosebumpy moment.
Just finished Stargate Universe - brilliant and criminal it never went beyond 2 seasons. Every episode a classic.
Lol. I was watching it a few years ago. Thinking to myself.... YES something to watch and look forward to.... lite did I know. Until I searched and found it was canxelled. 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬😡🤬
I have the scripts if you want to finish season 3.
drive.google.com/drive/folders/12cFGLWUM8rgmZfjkAjfkOZSTIG6ievmJ
stargate being trapped in a perpetual purgatory is such a shame for sci-fi
watching this video hurts even more but Thank you for this
I was so addicted to this show. The star gates were an exciting concept for first contact.😊 I thought the discovery that the ship was powered by a sun was kick a$$.
It is so funny this video appears when I literally just finished watching the show. 15 years ago I was too young to enjoy the darker tone but recently I decided to rewatch the entire show but with Adult eyes and it was way better than I was expecting and was so sad when it ended abruptly.
This show was so ahead of it's time. People in 2009 weren't ready for a dark / gritty Stargate. As time went on though, this too was just as amazing as SG1 and Atlantis.
Wouldn't be the same now though! Would hate to see it go woke.
They went full edge lord though with the transfer stones...
The idea that they got to do things they did in other people bodies showed that either one screenwriter tried to smuggle in another sci-fi trope, or they went for the shock value.
I cringed at every episode with this crap happening.
@@crank1985 how else would it have worked? given the in-universe limits? (which is, in-universe, the transfer stones are the only thing humanity knows about to allow communication across such a distance in real-time)
Personally, I'm glad they stuck with the continuity of the universe (known technology that was learned from previous episodes) rather than just inventing some brand new 'magic communicator' that would solve the issue.
@wtfbbq Just don't put sex on the screen. It looked like XXX parody mixed with early episodes of Bold & Beatiful. With Chloe as a "Brooke" candidate.
Tge show could work as a progress from gun-ho SG1, but through more science needing in Atlantis, to more needing about ship and gates, while soldiers fight whatever the heck was on each planet. The time - recording episode was brilliant, so for example.
But then they did this weird thing with catching the other shuttle with resurrected settlers to die again plus ship messing with them.
From the first episode they should have weird dreams. That could be THE PLOT of the season. Ship is testing them and doing low level defence. Those without ancients gene are starting to loose their marbles. Thriller would've worked way better than discounted tension BSG Galactica they gave us.
While it was kind of SG1’s fault that this technology existed, SGU did rewrite how it was used by making it a two-way transfer instead of it being one way. The ick and cringe factor still exists and I they never really went into how to resolve or much consent could be actually given in these circumstances, both morally or legally. Some of the things they did with another person’s body was… questionable - even in today’s standards, maybe especially with today’s standards. I think personally it would have been better to have very limited or even no communications with Earth until much later as they did with SGA.
I miss this show, it came during a hard part of life. It was a great escape from life. There's nothing better than turn on Flogging Molly and realizing there are no days worst than that yesterday.
Please hoping for this for years! The show has so much to offer.
It may not be a popular opinion, but SGU was my favourite. Some of these ideas are fantastic. Let's hope SG TV is coming soon.
my fave too
SGU could have been great, I remember at the time, a lot of anticipation and hope. However season one killed it. I knew many people who gave up on it. The consensus was 'If I want to watch a soap opera where everyone hates each other and back stabs, I can watch EastEnders'
@@ptonpc Its a funny thing to think that S1 was ahead of its time, it really dragged in the week by week format (The constant time changes didnt help either) but if binge watchable it works quite well these days. Were there some pacing issues at times? yeah sure but overall it was a quality drama with fantastic Sci Fi and a deep seeded lore to build from.
It was mine too. don't get me wrong, i do not think the others are bad at all. But SGU, expanded upon what was already established, it was a nice direction. the story was reallly goood
My favourite also
As a dedicated fan of the Stargate franchise, I am writing to express my deep appreciation for the incredible stories and characters that have captivated audiences for so many years.
Despite the time that has passed, the Stargate universe continues to hold a special place in my heart. The rich lore, engaging narratives, and beloved characters have left a lasting impact, and I believe there is still so much potential for new adventures and explorations.
It has been 15 years since the premiere of Stargate, and I kindly request that you consider (Studio) continuing the Stargate franchise, whether through new series, films, or other media. I am confident that new stories set in the Stargate universe would be met with great enthusiasm and support from the fan community.
I remember this show not getting as much positive reception as SG1 and Atlantis got during their runs, but, like DS9, it got much better as it went along and I enjoyed it more (though, I never watched DS9 up until a couple years ago, I was one of those TNG/Voyager purists back in the day but I've grown to appreciate its storytelling style as I've gotten older).
If any one of the Stargate shows were to come back in some form, SGU would probably be the easiest to jump off from rather than create something wholly new, as stated in the video.
The crew interactions were just so insufferable during the first season in a misguided attempt to manufacture edgy character drama that it never really recovered from that.
First season was an awful soap opera and BSG and GoT wannabe. And drama.
DS9 never "took" with me.
I think it was because people felt cheated because Atlantis ended on a cliffhanger It needed a concluding episode or movie the same as Stargate SG-1 got two movies.
So people weren't really invested in an expansion of the IP with earth under threat.
However I do feel the story of universal superior in its machinations and writing Style
I've watched stargate extended 3 times over. but i never knew any of this! Thanks for the video!
I just imagined the crew of the Destiny going to the far reaches of the universe, and decoding the secret of the cosmic background radiation, to discover it says "WHAT IS SIX TIMES NINE?"
At least make it Six times Seven
crossover episodes are the best, poor caveman got that one wrong
@@Sparkykueken You're on the right track. Keep reading.
A code, difficult to translate and hard to get to. Deciphered after years, it turns out man was created in God's image. The translation shows an image of a large phallic mushroomish shape and the words, "Gawd was here"
Are you sure you wouldn't rather it be “We apologize for the inconvenience.”?
I still watch this show from time to time. Very unique concept, and the show should have run a few more seasons just like Stargate Atlantis.
0:49 them choosing to be there is so incredibly well earned. Especially when you can watch it all at once. Remembering back to 2010, it felt like it took forever. And ... It was like 1.5 years... So that is a while for the viewer
I skipped this series when I saw Lou Diamond Phillips in all the ads. Then years later, I binged it. Damn - I was surprised how good it was. The episode with the Stargate seed ship was amazing. Let's not forget why he volunteered. It was him or Rush - and nobody trusted Rush not to kill them in their sleep.
It had so many great Actors too! They had THE CAST for TV at the time. Still broken hearted over what we missed.
This was one of the best branch out from the original Star Gate movie and the Star Gate series. It was bold, dark, and different.
Me sitting here thinking "There's NO WAY it's been 15 years since Stargate Universe. That was like a couple years ago, right?"
Checks Google: Insert Benjamin Button gif
Yeah it feels like that show just ended.
Yeah that hurt me to realize as well.
Awesome Ideas. Love the idea of bringing some favorite people back onto the show - cause we miss those guys.
This shockingly does not even bring up the comic, which does cover a path for the story to go after the S2 ending.
The gist I can remember of it is... While working on the last pod issue, Eli goes to a unexplored section of the ship where he finds actual Ancients in their own stasis pods. I think from there he decided to wake one, as... they are Ancients. Surely they could solve the issues at hand. Which they kind of do, but looks like it starts leading into another merger of 2 very different peoples into one crew.
I only read like 1 or 2 chapters. Maybe thats all that was made. As the plot from the comic is not any of the 6 mentioned, im guessing it was entirely made by someone else that was not a writer on the show. So not close to canon. Still worth mentioning though.
I should have mentioned the later comic story, although it's not canon and it's something of a footnote to what was being considered in the writers room in 2010.
I appreciated the comic book's explanation of Eli's survival. The narrative revealed that numerous sections of the ship were inaccessible to the crew, similar to the partial exploration of Atlantis. It frustrates me that numerous excellent Sci-Fi series are terminated prematurely due to a general disinterest in prolonged character development, with a preference for immediate action instead.
the SG universe to me was an amazing concept allowing limitless concepts.
Idea #7: Destiny finds a stray star between galaxies. Eli uses that star as a refueling point to jump the void to the next galaxy via the on-ship stargate. Eli has 3 years of adventures on an alien planet or several planets while waiting for Destini to catch up to him.
Would probably have to be a variation on the shuttle lifeboat idea.
While I wasn't too big a fan of the angsty teen drama in SGU, I thought the overall story and setting was actually one of the best of all of Stargate and even one of the best in Sci-Fi... The 'meta story' of trying to investigate a code/message from the creators of the universe is a cool idea... being stranded on a ship that has problems and untold discoveries of its own, in a distant part of the universe with even MORE possibilities for exploration and discovery... was just such an awesome setting...
I've always been a fan of 'exploration and discovery' in my sci-fi shows... "to boldly go where no man has gone before" as it were... and SGU had such an amazing setup in this regard
'exploration and discovery' was probably the main reason I loved SG1/A, with humanity starting from ignorance, exploring new planets, gaining new technology, new weapons, developing the F-302, building the Prometheus, discovering Atlantis, developing intergalactic travel, ect ect... it felt like SGU was just about to hit its stride when they canceled it =(
Im shocked they didn't think of using Atlantis's or Asgard tech to build power generators and just gate to the ship with more personnel and clone new bodies for the people in the ships computer. Replicator or Organic, depending on the choice in technology. That would be one badass opening for the show comeback.
I always loved SGU. Some of those story ideas for Season 3 and beyond are top notch! Thanks for the video!
I really hope they will ever continue with this show. The abrupt ending was creepy. The idea of maybe a 15 or 20 year journey looks good to me, aging would than be explainable.
Things did change on earth since than. I wouldn't like a 100+ years, that would be very complicated, although, yoy could use a lot of new players.
Maybe Amazon or Netflix is interested?
It could be 3 to 5 years on the ship, but with the way time works in space, it could be twice that or longer on earth. If there was a noticeable time gap on the ship, then it's plausible for 50+ years to have passed on earth.
"...the 15th anniversery of Stargate Universe" I nearly choked on my food. It's really been THAT LONG???
The problem was that most of the characters' cast were unlikeable and it took way too long to get them to work towards a common goal. If they had gotten to the end of season 2 in season 1 then it may have stood a chance at success.
To much drama in S1.
S2 was so much better, but by then they had pulled the plug.
Exactly. I dont get how so many are saying how the characters were so good in SGU, especially compared to the characters in SG-1 and SGA. I hated all the drama and idiotic civilian pulls they had and then there was Chloe, ehhhh.
Exactly this.
For me, too much drama, too much wasted time on stuff that was, ultimatelly, meaningless. Do I need to see people being sad in the past, screaming in the present, cheating, being hypocriticall to the moon FOR SO LONG? Could it not have been shorter at least? Do I really need to know about all of the bad life decisions everyone here has made? If I do, again, does it have to be so slow? Does it further anything? No? Well then can we care about the fact that we are on a spaceship at least sometimes? You know, the premise of the show?
I swear, at times, I was rooting for Rush succeeding in whatever crazy thing he was doing simply because he was the only one interested in the interesting stuff and seemed to be fed up witht he office drama as well as I was.
We went from episodic format of SG1/SGA about exploration and saving the world with family found and with slow story growth, to episodic story of being an ass on ancient ship with wondering if some story will be present eventually or if this is all it is ever going to be.
Same here. I love SG, but I hated SGU. It was exactly the opposite of SG1. Those guys cared about each other and always had each others' backs. In SGU, the characters hated each other. It was like watching an endless episode of the Big Brother house...constant drama, poor writing, and just not what I wanted in an SG show at all.
yep exactly
i am so relieved that the writers planed for ELI to live into the next series i have spent years wondering if he survived
Absolutely loved this show I still watch it to this day gutted it was cancelled after 2 seasons
After watching this (well-done) proposal synopsis and carefully considering the above suggestions, somehow, I feel that all of these above ideas can be successfully be written into a new continuing storyline for SGU, which includes all of the surviving STAR GATE FRANCHISES. Putting these ideas onto a dimentional storyboard will prove it. It will be like knowing what the puzzle looks like before it's put together.
*Evolved through season 1, became must-see sci-fi.*
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By the end I adored this show
While not the biggest SGU-Fan (see my other posting in this comment-section):
I'd have gone with Eli staying awake, finding more power and frankly learning about and fixing a lot of the ship and maybe even doing stuff like writing manuals for the others, making audio-logs etc., setting up things so the ship is ready for the sleepers to emerge from stasis! This way Eli would grow a lot, become a sort of leader (who can truly stop Colonel Young cold and even disagree with him, same for Rush!)
This was my favorite Stargate and I always force new friends to watch it, LOL. The last episode was for me a tear jerker and a tragedy. SGU was, like BSG, unlike any other contemporary SciFi, TV or theatrical. It was so smart and edgy and took the time to really flesh out the characters and relationships. I've always hoped it would come back, its certainly ripe for continuation!
I absolutely love the show, I really hope we get to see more.
I remember when the show was cancelled, I had a hopeless thought that maybe they could bring the show back after a three year gap as a nod to the season's cliffhanger ending. Still very sad that it didn't happen.
Maybe it's for the better, with the mess that the entertainment industry is in.
This show and Dark Matter are the only two shows that I'd give anything for them to get a chance to finish their stories. I've even told JM that id pay for the revival myself if i ever win Mega Millions lol
Comment 1000. That's all I wanted to say. And, that I keep myself satisfied by imagining all the incredible places we would have experienced through our favorite stories and characters. Long live SGU.
The idea of using an energy entity, reminds me of the of SG1 coming across the planet full of clouds but was actually a sentient species. Finally bring the Furlings and explain their absence would have been a great season 3.
Or the Atlantis episode where they thought they gated back to Earth.
That was SGA, not SG1.
Great video. I thought a good option would be some new aliens find Destiny with the crew in stasis. They are unable to run the ship on their own but can access logs on who is in each pod and selectively awake some. Letting them have a measure of control over the humans and allow for actors that aren't available or don't want to return to the show.
I still can't believe they cancelled this show JUST as it was beginning to get really good. I wasn't overly impressed with first series, but by the end of the second I actually thought this could be brilliant. Then they cancelled it, shocking decision....
The Syfy channel was making some very stupid decisions back then. I can't say how they're doing now, I don't have cable anymore, but my guess would be not so great still.
I'm open to any of those ideas, honestly. I just want season 3. My favourite Stargate series and the most awe-inspiring, mind-blowing sci-fi I've ever seen. It inspired in me a new wonder and fascination with space and its mysteries, and I will always be grateful for that.
oh my god that fifth idea is SO cool!!
I absolutely loved SGU it was such a fresh way of looking at the Stargate universe. I really hope we get more stargate one day
I love Stargate so much… I watched the original movie and SG1 as a kid and grew up watching Atlantis and Universe and was so sad when they announced they were canceling SGU.
I still hope they revive it at some point!
I loved everything: the original movie, the SG1 series and movies, Atlantis and Universe.
I've actually watched them over 100 times, you could say I'm a real SG nerd.
Since I first watched it, I've been constantly going through them chronologically, starting with the 1994 movie, then SG1, the SG1 movies, Atlantis and then Universe.
And when I'm done, I start over again.
But please don't mention Stargate Origins or Stargate Infinity...
I my head I always imagined Eli didn't get his pod fixed. But worked out an alterative power supply that allowed him to keep a low level of life support. However it was a drain on the system so the trip took longer than 3 years (7+) When the crew revive they come out and find stuff changed on the ship. Jury rigged repairs, an overgrown hydroponics lab/room. Etc. Then they find Eli, older looking. Slightly insane from the isolation. He managed to fix a ton but never had the power to do anything with the fixes. The Season could be about Eli's recovery and rediscovery of systems he fixed while everyone was out.
Back on earth, people have moved on. But some haven't and keep a watch on the stones. Personal relationships have moved on thinking they had died making the crossing. I think 7 years was enough for this.
Damn I loved this show when it aired and every re-watch since. But I was shocked when you said at the start that it was 15 years!
I think a combination of storylines would be great. Take the scenario of the crew being in stasis for longer than expected, about 10 years in the future, while being rescued by the Novans. Meanwhile, Earth also launches a rescue to Destiny. The reason the Novans sought out the Destiny to begin with is because they are facing a major enemy of their own that they believe they can only defeat with the help of the knowledge contained on Destiny. This enemy is the reason the Novans left their planet to begin with, this enemy can destabilize planets so that it appears natural, they have been on the run from them since. Do they help the Novans with their newly attained access to Earth resources? Do they give Destiny to the Novans and let them deal with the problem on their own? Does the crew feel they have been away from Earth too long that starting over on a new, more advanced society to be the better choice?
i re watch all 3 seasons and the 3 movies in order at least every 2 years. There is a correct way to place the movies, sg1 and Atlantis together to feel like they are all happening at the same time and its so cool to see the references to each one while watching the other. It would be so cool if they brought back universe and just explained the aging as a lack of power to fully sustain the person in each pod more so than just keeping them alive though they age at their normal rate. Still so many wonderful possibilities that could come from a movie or new season. even just a new branch of the show at this point to come out and with new technology over the years they could go to save the crew or find that they all perished but either way give us an answer and closure to what has happened after all these years.
Scariest most atmospheric of the sg series
Bring this damn show back already!!! It had a slow start but man it was about to get sooooo gooooood!!!
I loved SGU. It was such an amazing fresh take on the Stargate story. I loved the characters and their politicking. The idea of destiny and its mission was so interesting to me. I was so annoyed it got cancelled. But it is still two of the best seasons in scifi history in my opinion.
Robert Carslyle was perfect to play what the character had to be!! I was put out at first but… wow ! Almost didn’t give it a chance he was to well known of a face for me to feel like I could immerse myself in “Stargate” when I’m seeing Trainspotting, Formula 54, and 28 weeks later!
I was never really a fan of the other SG series but instantly fell in love with SG-U, I was devastated when they axed the show early. I still watch season 1&2 at least once a year.
I still like the movie idea that After the Ori War, they could use Supergates to bring Destiny home.. but with that lingering mystery of the Cosmic Background Radiation 'message'.. was its Destinys launch that caught the attention of Fate and brought an end to the Ancient Civilization, or the Alliance of Races? The Knox always seemed to know more than they were letting on. The promethian legend comes to mind.. and the Ancients were 'stopped' from reaching out. The Ori themselves seemed to keep to themselves and not have any explansionist aims.. until SG-1 intruded on their little party.. did they know something? Do we live in at least a partial Dark Forest of the Cosmos?
Yeah the background radiation piece is very interesting .. . .
Yes a convenient bit of mystery to avoid conjecture about what lies beyond. We were mystically stopped on all fronts! Sums it up nicely! it’s still mystical it’s bigger than ascension no advanced race was capable even Baal is laughing at us!! But really just like Sgu there is no way to agreeably sum up or venture into what is in beyond or responsible for the cosmic background noise so why make the mistake of trying when they have a trillion galaxies the show can explore first. Any attempt would be laughable if not offensive to some demographic of their fan base.
Sooooooooo tangent! I mean really Daniel Jackson Ascends…. Decends…. Ascends again meets all ancient advanced races wakes up naked in Surrey multiple times 🤣🤣🤣and still no earth moving soul shattering answer!! All he got was a bent stick and condescension from that serial killer 🤣🤣some riddles from a fairy and the greatest friends in the galaxy!! But we had ten 15 amazing years of adventure. I for one am happy they do not try to reach beyond their intellectual grasp as they have quite possibly the most intelligent passionate and dedicated fan base of any show ever. They can’t put one past on all of us!
I, however, did have a soul shattering realization after waking up naked in a park in Surrey!
“I’ve been robbed!!”
I was suprised this show ended (ie: plug pulled). I quite enjoyed it.
I really didn't like the soap opera drama stuff that they put so prominently into the first season, but like a good fan I pushed through it and the second season turned out to be really good. It really is a shame that the damage was already done and many had lost interest in the show during season one so that the rates were too low to get renewed into a thrd one.
Well, at least it was a somewhat rounded out cliffhanger compared to other shows that just stopped in the middle of the action or rushed to conclude 3 seasons worth of story into the last 5 episodes or something like that.
I agree.
I believe that the stones amplified the uncomfortable, manufactured drama and ultimately delayed the growth of the characters as they accepted their fate. There were enough interesting plot threads within the ship and the unexplored galaxies to keep pulling the audience out of the experience by constantly wasting time back on modern Earth, exploring pointless characters, and unnecessary plot there.
Me too. Why have a ship far far away and then have most of the episodes play on earth (of course that saves cost). They should have no contact
My problem was not in particular with the stones or contact to earth, just with too much drama in general. Too much soap opera, too few SG1/SGA vibes for my taste in the first season.
Sgu’s episode where the survivors make a civilization was my favorite take on this trope. The one from DS9 was also cool.
Freakin loved this show. It had a few problems - I never liked how easy it was for them to communicate with Earth, but otherwise it was awesome. HATED when they cancelled it.
I’m still upset that Daniel didn’t get to visit Destiny. It took him a long while to finally get to Atlantis - he & Vala could’ve brought some excitement to Destiny.
The comic (although not canon) had an interesting one, where Eli finds ancients on board, they fix the ship, and find the materials to synthesize Tretonin to cure the plague they still carried.
The same with Me, I also read that Comic along with the Continuation Comic for Stargate ATLANTIS.
@@nicholashortonjustice4rebe378 the SGA novels were far better than the comics
It would unbelievably awesome to see more episodes of Stargate Universe, even though it's just a tv show, I was heart broken to find out the show was over, I felt like a part of me was abruptly ended, a part of my life was gone again, an adventure taken from me a very, very long, long time ago I've been stuck here for a long long time
I mean I get why it was cancelled.... everyone was fighting with each other... and when you thought you got past it, they started fighting again. Atlantis felt like 3 or 4 sg1 episode crammed into one episode, but SGU felt like a single plot point dragged out and padded with filler. I remember that episode when they realised the ship was flying towards a star and were all "we're doomed". Ii was just sitting there thinking "nah guys this is an ancient ship... have a little faith it's probably refueling or something".
The season 2 plot points were better and I do wish it got continued... but the damage was done
I agree. It was them trying to mimic Battlestar Galactica, which had the same problems as you describe. The crew in BSG was also constantly fighting each other. And every plot in BSG dragged out because 90% of episode time was devoted to character drama. Hell, both BSG and SGU had the same, boring "civilians vs military" plot.
Still, the show abandoned a lot of that in S2, which make me sad it was cancelled, despite not being fond of S1.
@BoroMirraCz the show itself wasn't why it got cancelled. That was the SyFy channel's fault, they were going in a stupid non Sci fi direction for a time there so they cancelled this show and many more others after that
I loved that show. Now I have this hope that someone resurrects it. My favorite plot is their decedents, and them showing up to awaken them would be neat.
This was, hands down, the best Star Gate series.
Stargate deserved so much better. Still one of the best, no my personal best/favorite Science Fiction Franchise ever!
They can still do it now, then it would be a 13 year jump. IRL and in-universe.
Noo, then they would have made Rush and Eli a sweet couple.
@@Qwa7 rush: im sorry eli, im in no rush to get married
@@Qwa7and race swap them.
@@dermagnus8482would be explained by a malfunction in the statis pod that it changed their gender, race etc. 😂
I heard a fascinating solution for the cliff-hanger in a YT video comments section. Eli figures out a way to harvest fuel for Destiny while in transit between galaxies. I believe the idea was basically that he uses the shields to form a type of scoop that would funnel matter/energy into the collectors, generating power for the ship much like it does while star-diving, but in much smaller amounts due to the minuscule amounts of mass between stars. However it is made up for by the fact that Destiny is sweeping a large volume of space and doing it continuously for several years, providing enough power to get the ship (with Eli still alive) to the next galaxy.
Stargate Universe was my favorite series. but I would just love to have any Stargate back.
Wow, I never thought about a version where Eli uploaded himself. that’s that’s cool.
The show needed to make the worlds they visited feel more alive and interactive, which means more humans or humanoid people needed to live in a lot of the planets they visited. Because of its enclosed story setting, it consequently meant that the characters themselves had to carry the show; but in order to raise the profile of Eli, they had to make others unable to solve problems for the boy wonder to solve for them, which in turn reduced the impressions of those other characters.
While Rush was the typical protagonist with inner conflicts, he was also made into an almost constant outcast; which meant if the audience emotionally invests in Rush, then they end up with a negative impression of the social interactions with him.
Then there was the cournal who acted as the authority figure and leading the action scenes, but outside of that then it was just the back-and-forth of what was constantly perceived to be potentially hostile, and when they made up then other antagonists had to be brought in again.
The show had many problems in its storytelling. It needed to expand the worldbuilding more, and it needed to give more purpose to more characters. Jin, Gin, however her name is supposed to be spelled, was a great addition; but only became a quick plot device to become yet another sacrifice to make Eli grow as a character. Telford made an awesome recovery as a character, and Varro took on the traditional SG role of the reliable, stoic and strong outsider.
I agree. I believe that the stones were the "poison in the well" that prevented the writers from developing a cohesive crew aboard the ship in time.
@@Fistfullofpizza The communication stones, eh? Yeah, I think you're right about that. The amount of screen time the communications using the stones took up was just way too much. The stones also became the standard way they introduced guest appearances for episodes, except for when the lucian alliance made their way into destiny.
Imagine if they had done it like stargate atlantis and kept them isolated from the start, and made it so the worlds they gated to would've been populated instead, and then developed the story that way.
I mean, the writers would've needed to explain the presence of either humans or humanoid people on planets so far away and so far apart, but it would've made it possible to do the worldbuilding and character developments that way.
They could've still had that lucian alliance thing and introduced Varro that way, but Jin/Gin, however it's spelled, should've never been sacrificed so quickly.
The stones could've been something they discover later, kinda like how it took a while until stargate atlantis became able to contact earth again.
I was not really a big fan of the whole Stargate series, but this one really caught my attention, and I liked the charactours and story line it had. Then of course they just end it and that was that. Figures.
What's great about the final episode is that it would be entirely possible to resume the show even now, especially with a super long time skip.
Very well researched and presented. Thanks. Maybe with SyFy being on the Comcast chopping block, we could see a revisit of the true Sci-Fi gems from the potential new owners.
03:00 this part of the story explanation is wrong. they could not just follow/track Destiny trough FTL everywhere it went. The drones/Command ships, were only able to track the signature of an active stargate. And then go to both of those locations. Which was the whole reason they could no longer resupply using the gate's, also in the end a command ship was parked at every single planet that had a gate on it, since they figured out thats a way to track them they don't no anything about humans only the fact there's a gate. as explained by Rush in the final episode. This spawned the plan to go to the next galaxy.
Yes, I am a total sci fi nerd. 😁
I think you're right here. 😀
Actually they figured out that Destiny needed a star to recharge, is why towards the end Destiny had to risk refuel at a Super Giant blue star if you recall.
How has no one else seemed to have thought that earth would build a specialized ship that could essentially be a mobile spacedock for destiny to completely repair and restore it, send it with two Daedalus class escorts and have them detonate a star in order to send that small fleet to destiny herself? Ships entering hyperspace during a nearby supernova have been canonically shown to travel impossible distances in the blink of an eye, there's no reason that couldn't be done here even if it took several stars in several galaxies to make the journey.
As we know from Stargate Atlantis, stasis does not stop the aging process. It slows it down by 99%. While significant, eventually after many thousands of years in stasis, the human body will age out completely to death. So if the crew comes out of stasis at the current ages of the actors, with no CGI makeovers or anything elaborate -- then it would only mean one thing: they were in stasis for hundreds of years, at minimum.
Or that weaker stasis was in use, because Eli made imperfect repairs. Some people would hate him for taking their lifespan, only to discover, that it was a lie.
Half of them are uploaded, rest is connected, because machines attacked between galaxies, while Eli was, awake, so he was fighting them alone and wasted power to save their minds.
And he is now fixing the ship.
Everyone is the thankful, only to discover that it was Eli's fault, because he found a single star behind the galaxy...
Eli and Rush will switch sides, as the good and bad scientist.
i had the idea that they could say a technical issue caused destiny to travel at 1/3 speed due to power constraints but this happens after eli fixes and enters the pod also to save power the ship keeps everyone alive but unconscious but they still age the 9 years the journey took to complete, explaining why everyone looks older from there you can do anything... BRING IT BACK.
I hate when they cancel good shows before their time. 😢
one word .... Terranova!
It took me a while to learn to appreciate SGU, but with every episode the series got better and better for me. That's why I regretted all the more that the series was discontinued.
I could live with ideas one and two, and would be happy if they were to start a third season - although I know that won't happen, unfortunately.
It reminded me of Space 1999.