I really wish that more fans had been willing to give Stargate Universe a chance. It really started to feel like they figured out a proper blend of SG and BSG by the second season and began to feel like Stargate again.
@@ferrenbergIn case you don't know, Pluto TV (free streaming service) has an entire channel dedicated to all Star Gate shows. Unfortunately, Atlantis is only on from midnight to 9 am here. I'm either getting ready for work or sleeping! 😂
Not a huge fan of seasons 9 and 10 of SG-1, always felt jarring. And now that I know it was originally slated to be a completely different show, Stargate Command, it makes sense. It feels so different because it is. I’ve always felt SG-1 ended with season 8, and as it turns out, it did.
Honestly, I was hesitant to watch this video, but now that I am at the end, it brings tears to my eyes. Stargate was my all-time favorite TV show growing up, and I miss it. I make it a point to binge-watch it every year without fail. Your storytelling is impeccable and brings back a lot of nostalgia from the old shows. They should have never stopped. If Grey's Anatomy can continue this long, Stargate should never have stopped. We miss the swashbuckling action, intelligence, and ingenuity of both teams so much.
Enjoy all the reality slop that's dominating the current media landscape .... And it's not just shows like these, documentaries aren't even beimg re run...
@@michaelvial125 But do we really want them to? So many old ip's have been butchered left and right and they have already stated that if Stargate is revived it will in fact not have anything to do with the original show runners
Agreed, but I don't like both Michael and Kolya coming back... one of them needs to stay dead. My vote is Kolya, his survival would make Shephard incompetent considering their last encounter.
@dffndjdjd This. It was made clear that they had more options than they allowed fans to assume but like so many, felt moving onto bigger and better was best. The whole Sarah Gellar and Buffy type deal or D+D Showrunners of Game of Thrones type deal is how it retrospectively looks now. Then after the failure, it was what it always came down to, no money or investors and too little too late.
Farscape, SG-1, Atlantis, and BSG in the span of a few short years made up for a fitting conclusion of sci-fi TV's golden age. It was a back to back thrill ride for a while.
@@NemoNoone-p3p yeah I remember happy days, there has been talk of a farscape reboot/continuation for a while, but all the red tape bs holds it back, but we can only 🙏🏻
Stargate was amazing! This show made me fall in love with Stargate all over again. After watching Atlantis I watched every single SG-1 episode and read every book I could get a hold of. Thank you Stargate Atlantis.
Since only Ford wasn't actualy seen dying and apparently escaped makes sense, otherise I agree with bringing back Kolya and Michael is overkill just for the fan service of "beloved" characters. Only a "he was a clone" or comes from an alternate timeline would work for Michael, but Kolya was seen being killed and only came back later because of an ancient self-defense feature trying to delay Shepard (like that better)
*Yeah Michael would have been a bit too much. Even though liking the actor especially in Star Trek Enterprise series I was ready to see that character off. Lol* 😂🤣
@@andrewmalinowski6673 Alternate timeline or time travel is also a possibility for putting into a plot. Not that these characters come into the 'real world' but are encountered while the team end up in the alternate reality. You could even have a 2-3 part story arc where they go to an alternate world and Kolya is the antagonist again but it turns out he's actually the good guy in this version. It would be worth having an episode that explores what happens if Shepherd's team don't wake up the wraith or didn't abandon Tyrus (Sora's father) and how that would affect their relationship with the Genii.
Somehow "the tower" survived and launched a bunch of jumpers and drones despite the city being structurally shattered and all it's drones and jumpers having been transferred to Atlantis four years earlier...
I loved SG-1, but Atlantis was my favorite of the SG series. I really wish it had gone on for as many seasons as SG-1 did. I loved the chemistry between Sheppard, and McKay, and later Ronon Dex. They were the trifecta of cool. McKay, while some thought he was annoying, he was one of my favorite television characters and David Hewlett was a perfect casting choice. Zelenka, Beckett, Dr Keller, Weir, Teyla....such interesting and fun characters. The series really should have gone on much longer but I am glad we were graced with five seasons. I really miss this show.
If you are in for it, there are 8 books of the SGA legacy series. They are well written. There is also a lot of character development. Can absolutely recommend
Somewhere, perhaps in an alternate universe, I have no doubt that we all have the biggest 'McKay' grin on our face as we sit back and turn up the volume on the season 7 premier.
Yeah... Or at least a satisfying ending. One that covers the issues to Atlantis... Like Zero Point Modules, self repair, nanites and rapid shipbuilding... and things like that, combined with all the character moments.
You say that like producers like Netflix or Amazon would be better... (I saw what they did to The Witcher....... we *all* saw.) That said, Amazon did right by 'The Expanse'.
This is so cool. Thanks a lot. Although some clearly needed some polish - I dont like all the revivals. Kolya, Ford, Elizabeth, Michael...they are dead. I hate when a show doesnt commits to permanent changes. IE: Carlson. I liked his death, it was sad because I loved the char, but then it felt super dumb and clumsy how they returned him. Kolya's dead was a bit underwhelming...but he was dead. - Most the episodes seem focused on filling space with repetitive concepts (Some already played in atlantis itself), rather than to further develop the existing stories, villains and problems. - Atlantis Vs Another ancient city Is great, and tod is a great solution, but he is still an enemy, they still feed on humans, Atlantis needed to solve this amongst other things - FINALLY seeing something about how they built their ZPMs would be great. Even if it was really hard, dangerous, and time consuming.
Here's how I'd refine those ideas into something more coherent: The returning characters: - Ford survived but was stranded on the planet the hive was attempting to cull (space gate without a ship), the same planet would eventually turn out to be the hidden location of the ZPM factory allowing the team to reuinite with him. - Michael survived because the "Michael" we saw in "The Prodigal" was actually a clone. It would explain why he ended up being so careless and overly emotional. He was psychologically unstable because Michael's cloning process was imperfect due to a lack of resources. - As for Elizabeth, don't bring back an organic Elizabeth, have the Travelers or the Wraith (most likely the former) discover the replicators in deep space and accidentally wake them up and have that be Carl's replicator story. - Kolya, I'm tempted to also bring back as a clone but at this point it would be nigh impossible for Michael (or the renegade Asgard, the only other group I could think of) to clone him. Better not. His death wasn't all that anticlimactic. The story arc: - Have the future scenes in "Yesterday, Today, Tomorrow" be set during the events of the finale. - Have the ZPM mishap be what propels the team to look for the ZPM factory. - Have the city-ship from "The Tower" be captured and restored by the Renegade Asgard rather than Kolya (there is no way the Genii would have the means to fix it or even operate it). - Have the events of Hamster Ball, the Replacements and Michael's mid-season two-part takeover all be a one big storyline with the villains behind the former two being the Renegade Asgard, and have it end with the revelation that Michael is now working with them against Atlantis. - Todd getting captured by the Wraith should be the start of a season-long throughline in which Teyla uses her queen guise to slowly persuade the rest of the Wraith to go along with using Michael's gene therapy so that they no longer need to feed on humans. - After the replicators are accidentally woken up by the Travelers, they split into two camps, one that wants to just disappear and try to ascend and another that wants revenge on Atlantis first, the latter, led by Weir eventually stumble onto the Atlantis team and pass along the information about the Asuran superweapon while the latter join forces with Michael and the Renegade Asgard and help them restore the city-ship. - The Season finale is the Asgard's restored city ship and smaller replicator-controlled Auroras vs. Atlantis and a fleet of Wraith and Traveler warships. - In the end we get a peace treaty between Atlantis and the Pegasus coalition and the remaining Wraith Hives who agree to take the drug and lose their dependency on consumption of humans. Michael is killed off for real, the remaining Renegade Asgard agree to a truce as well and are given a ship with which to leave the Pegasus galaxy, the remaining replicators are persuaded by Weir to stand down. Peace in the Pegasus galaxy at long last. The end.
Yeah, most of these plot sketches feel thematically hollow. It’s just stuff happening. I get they’re just rough brainstorms, but Atlantis S5 also feels a little thematically bankrupt to me, like the show is running on fumes. (Except the finale. The finale slaps.)
@@TheJovian16 I would like that mishap to be a result of McKey attempting to produce a ZPM as opposed to finding the factory. I think it makes more sense for this accident to happen in production. I wouldn't bring any of those characters back, we saw them die. Make room for the new characters. A run-in with other wraith-enzyme takers I'd take.
Wow, I'm not one to give likes normally, but the editor did a great job on the clips showing the people who were being talked about and sometimes even similar events. Good job. 👍
Thank you for this. I LOVED Star Gate Atlantis, it is my 2nd favorite show of all time, behind Star Gate SG-1. I have wished for a very long time that it would not have ended.
Joe Flanigan (Shepherd) tried to get investors together to continue Atlantis in some form, and even got a level of buy-in from MGM, but ultimately the deal was scuppered by MGM's bankruptcy. Nowadays, alas, I think it's too late. Half the cast are off doing their own bigger things and half of them are retired or not working as actors anymore.
Do you want Amazon to bring it back and bring back Weir or Carter and make them an insufferable girl boss and turn Sheppard and the various males into beta cucks? Because they will do it.
@@ijmad Generative AI could help complete the script and then make the video, some bits could be made by filming anyone and using AI to restyle and revoice bits.
Any and all of them would have been so fun! Especially the Weir storyline! I would love to see them. I'm so thankful Joseph understands how much the fans care and chose to share all this! Thank you, Darren, for giving us this video! 😊😊
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This was fun. Thanks! The only thing missing for me was the return of the Asgard's splinter group. An easy, it writes itself, episode of coming across them once again in an ancient outpost. One of the short comings of SG1 and Atlantis is the story thread of ancient chairs in seemingly random places with ZPM's. How about Zelenka had a pet project this entire time trying to answer the question about why the planet Proclarush had a chair and if there were any in the Pegasus galaxy. We get flashbacks with Zelenka on earth and ultimately this being one of the main reasons he was chosen for the Atlantis expedition. Finally, in this, shall we say season 7 episode, Zelenka finishes his research (of which he has been working on since just after the events of The Lost City) to find a map seemingly of sorts to all the chairs left in the Pegasus galaxy and their respective outposts. Tentatively, the team searches one of the locations to find the Asgard. End Part 1. Part 2 finds the team and Asgard to join forces against a Wraith fleet determined to destroy the Asgard. The Asgard explain that they had tried to remove the information about the remaining chairs from all records they could find in Pegasus. Since Zelenka used info from the Milkyway he ultimately solved the problem. The Asgard have multiple outposts under their control and wish to keep it a secret for fear of the Wraith learning the information. Zelenka and the team trade the chair location information for a truce and information on how to manufacture ZPMs, how to unlock new locations on Atlantis, and two chair locations the Asgard don't use (they were going to return to for later use but ultimately decided to destroy all the remaining unoccupied chairs) since they took the working ZPMs from them already. This opens the door to Rodney and his Sister creating a sort of not so powerful version of the ZPMs enough to power up outpost systems but not enough power a chairs weapons. So then we can have an episode about the IOA working to assign teams to these chairs. Or..... something like that....o7
I was on the younger side when this premiered. Thanks to streaming I found myseld watching almost all things SG in the last year. Great series that deserves reboot.
Years later I really miss this show and the other Stargate series. There is nothing like this now, how can they not see that this was a loved series???
Individually, I like most of these ideas. But as a season, too many time travel and too many "ohh you thought they were dead, now they are alive" episodes
The idea of bringing back; Aiden, Elizabeth, Todd, and creating the multi-POV story all sound cool. Bringing back Kolya and Michael seem like stretches given the fact that Kolya was seen being shot by Shepard and Michael falling off the spire seem more like ends to the characters and unless it's revealed in the hybrid invasion that the Michael who attacked Atlantis was a clone (he already had a clone of Beckett) this seems like the only viable meaning. Hearing about the "Rashoman" story reminds me of a TNG episode with Riker accused of the death of a scientist, and using the holodeck to depict the viewpoints of the "witneses"
It took me a long time to get over Stargate Atlantis ending prematurely. This just brings it back lol. Great info and this list season sounded like it would've been great.
Man they should bring this back. I know that Joe Flanigan has always wanted it to come back and I'd bet most of the cast would but Jason probably wouldn't be able to do it, I'd bet his dance card is pretty full for a while.
Man, we got robbed. Stargate Atlantis was the best of the three and it always bothered me that it ended the way it did. I would have loved to watch this new season.
Nothing will ever be like when I first watched Stargate for the first time. Man do I miss this series and I really hope to see it in some form in the future.
Thank you for the great summary of the lost six seasons, and the use of visuals to help the audience not only follow the plot ideas, but also allow us to think we are watching a season recap. Brilliant job!
I know a lot of fans were so angry with the end of Atlantis that they refused to watch Universe. I was angry too, but gave Universe a chance then, and was glad I did. But I still wish we'd gotten our season 6, and our season 3 of Universe… I dunno what Amazon can do with the franchise now. I dunno if they could really make continuing the series WORK (we've become powerful enough to take on the Orii and the Wraith… What's left?) If they reboot the franchise WELL, I'd watch that. But c'mon Amazon, do SOMETHING with Stargate already!
Thank you! Wasn't sure how I was going to pull this off, but I'm very proud of the edit. I've been pondering how to tackle this for a good long while now.
That would have been AMAZING!!! I would totally support an animated next Season, if that means a new season but using a lower budget. I need for SG, you have no idea.
Pushing almost a quarter million views in 3 days for a series that ended over a decade ago… there is a significant loyal Stargate fan base. Unfortunately I don’t think Hollywood can produce these kinds of shows these days. Too much worry about shareholders, modern political agendas and increasingly poor CGI. Really sad, but I’m glad I lived through the best of Television.
while i mirror your FEELING that the show "killed off so many in unsatisfying ways" i never really found it a problem. that's death. There usually isn't a poetic meaning, a nice tying up of loose ends or other (basically) fan-service moments. Death strikes at random. I thought the death scenes of every named character was handled with grace and elegance. Especially Carson.
I disliked the decisions to write off both Carson and Weir. But I do think they were done well overall, dramatically. They wanted to have the option to keep bringing Weir back, but unfortunately the result was that they left her fate vague and the character never really got a proper conclusion. The one that really still bugs me is Kolya. His death is such an unnecessary choice that seems like an afterthought that was tacked onto the episode for behind-the-scenes reasons we aren't privy to.
@@GateWorldDotNet Definitely disagree with the take on Kolya. Sheppard was DONE with that man. He had made the mistake of not killing him before and it bit him in the arse, hard. No way Kolya was ever walking away from that encounter. It was him or Sheppard in that episode, plain and simple. Having him get away would have been the worse narrative choice. As it would have made Sheppard seem pathetic, promising to kill Kolya only to let him walk for no reason. Kolya was a great enemy, but Sheppard had made the decisions to kill him long before they entered that town. It was just a matter of when those paths crossed and he finally got a clean shot on him.
re your point around the potential episode 19 there.. another thing that was unsatisfying was the number of times in both SG-1 and Atlantis when they got their hands on an alien ship only to have it explode by the end of the episode, or in the next episode sometimes. Like in SG-1's 8x01 "New Order Part 1" when they lose the Tel'Tak that Colonel O'Neill modified at the end of Season 7.
Im seriously shocked there is not currently a stargate series. Why? Please someone make it (just not like the web series pls). Also, awesome editing! Now I need to rewatch the Vegas episode.
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I wish we had this 6th season over SGU, because SGA ended so abruptly. However... I think I would have liked maybe only half of these episodes. I'm gonna go over negative points first, then end on the positive stuff. I am aware that this was a snapshot in early writting, stuff would have been quite different for the finished product. Time travel ? Again ? I think that besides SG-1's Window of Opportunity, SGA's The Last man and SGU's Time, Stargate time travel stories are just bad. I've been vocal in the past about how awful I thought SG Extinction was. I'll keep it short, but I think that time travel stories just end up being messy, changing past event for no good reason, and overall lacking what makes Stargate interesting. I see Michael and Kolya are back... Which is weird, because I thought they had satisfying ends. Instead, I wish this 6th season focused more on the Vanir Asgards, who I think should have been a seasonal enemy, instead of beign confined to a double episode. I still see no set up for Stargate Universe. Was it already under development at this time ? Now for the positive: I love that Weir is back. Carter and Woolsey were great, but I think that Weir was really unique in Stargate. I am very intersted by Carl's Replicator's story, Classic Stargate, Carter Roshomon, The Red shirt diairies, The Replacements, Hexed, Entropy, Revenge and Payback. They seem like very cool episodes.
Yea, I didn't like returning Fort and Kolya and Micheal. Also, it has been a while, but I thought the other city was out of drones and worse of then Atlantis. There is no way Kolya and co would have the ability to fix it and bring it in a better state as Atlantis. (They could have found a third city perhaps. Though that seems unlikely as well. I would have preferred that the Vanir Asgards filled the end threat) But like you, I think there are a bunch of episodes I really would have liked to see.
@@MarijnvdSterre No, it wasn't that city, it was another like it, in other words there were at least 3 Atlantis's (besides the ones that Galaxies replicators made).
@@MarijnvdSterre Sure, that's a given but just clarifying that they only have 2 "Atlantis's" in the show (not counting the ones the Pegasus galaxy replicators made) but in this video they said this was "another Atlantis like the one in that episode". So not the same one. But yes rewatching is the best we have for now.
I have re-watched all these shows several times and honestly ended each season with wanting more....I even grew to love Stargate Universe , thank you for putting this Outline Narration together, it's too bad we didn't experience more...this genre and its style of presentation is sorely missed.
I'm surprised he never realesed the story to read like he did with SG1! It would have been the best edition I bet with shepherd finding the Stargate hub and building a lot of replicators to keep all the new facilities running making ZPM's and all! It was helarious when he found out all the Stargates had cameras on them all along 😂
Yeah the last episode of atlantis seemed like it was super rushed, and I feel like a season 6 was absolutely necessary. Thank you so much for sharing :)
While there are a few ideas that probably needed some more thought and there are maybe a few too many "Somehow, [Dead Character] returned.", it would very likely have been a fun and enjoyable season of television, with a fun and capable cast of established characters able to breathe plenty of life and energy into even the ropier plots. I miss SGA, and SG1, and SGU although flawed definitely improved over time. I have a friend much younger than me who never watched Star-anything, was never much of a sci-fi fan at all, and yet recently on my recommendation she watched and absolutely loved SG1 and SGA. My 70-odd year old parents, me at nearly 40, my friend in her mid-20's, all very different people and yet all big fans of the Stargate franchise. There's gold in that there puddle, TV execs - time to jump back in.
Agree with your first paragraph, I think that was emblematic of SGA, it felt utterly unable to move on narratively from around Season 3. It often introduced really interesting things but never developed them and continually circled back to plots that had been concluded.
@@Red1Green2Blue3 Season 6 was a chance for a complete refresh for the show. As politicans reallocate resources for rescuing the people stuck on the ancient starship in Stargate Universe and on preparing for the reveal to the general public. SGA having to survive and roughing it on Camp Atlantis would have been interesting. As there job is just recon and to recover anymore technology from Pegasus now and they are only there because they volunteer to be, an US lobbied for such a stripped down Atlantis expedition. So imagine the team having to live in tent, survive on ever scraps Earth sends them. Even Daedalus regular supply missions are seen as a diversion from finding a new naquadria planet. With hints that whatever Dr Rush is after, the IOA knows as well and sees it as priority over Pegasus galaxy.
The Stargate stories all possessed a unique quality that I think is greatly missed today. To me it's along the lines of how Top Gun did so well in the box office. Kind of the wholesome aspect that shows back then have over the ones of today.
Honestly, it was obvious SGA was not supposed to end the way it did, and it should have gotten another season. Universe was too serious and weird, but had immense potential. Right now, i would do a new series, decades into the future, where the Pegasus Galaxy problem has basically been solved, new tech and more ships have arrived for the humans, but with the Universe ships going a looooong way, we should now be able to visit many galaxies, with all kinds of enemies, though only focussing on 2 basically. By the way, with the Pegasus replicators, when they went to the planet, they should have stolen a BUNCH of ZPMs, possibly see how they could wipe a bunch, perhaps have stolen a few complete cities, which they could then move to Earth, and completely fit out with many people and ships and make adjustments and mods and use as platforms to move to those 2 new galaxies, now having a city on Earth, Pegasus galaxy, and two new ones, well, in due time, again, a few decades. You'd need a lot of time to go through those cities and learn ev erything about the tech, because well, humanity has only so many scientists that are good enough and you cannot use them all without all of this definitely leaking to the public. Then recruiting and training enough scientists and soldiers and pilots and designing new ships and adjusting the cities so those ships fit in them and or can dock with it also takes quite a bit of time. Doing it on the moon with 3-4 Ancient cities at the same time and basically designing XXL cloaked shuttles to ships to shuttle people and equipment around, along side with maybe for Goa'Uld cloaked ships, would be a priority. Of course decades from now the people would know, and humanity would have come together a bit. There would also of course be multiple Ancient settlements found through the Pegasus galaxy, all functioning as bases for humans and their allies. Including of course locations of productions facilities, the Ancient made ships, ZPM's, all kinds of stuff, maybe they made smaller things in every city, but there should be basis for the rest. Humanity would be using those to create their own designed ships, likely hybrid ships, mixing elements from Human, Goa'uld, Ancient, etc. tech.
Immense potential if they hadn't alienated the fans by having it kill SGA and had kept the tone more fitting with Stargate, you can be a bit more serious without making everyone an a-hole.
Joe has posted a good bit about the different ways the SGU cliffhanger might have been resolved in a third season opener. I'd like to do a video on that at some point!
What I would have liked from Stargate Atlantis was a shipyard. Somewhere in the Ancient's Galaxies, they have an Ancient shipyard. A place where all the Aurora class ships were built, where city ships were built. Where puddle jumpers were built en masse. Maybe even see a sister ship of sorts of Destiny (or the hull of one). Showing off their shipyard could have been a late episode in a "planned" final season so as it couldn't be used to give them total power while the show was running, but going forward would make the future an amazing place. Maybe it was in The Milky Way galaxy or in the Pegasus galaxy or maybe even in a secret pocket galaxy somewhere in between (which would be something the Ancients would totally have done), but the Ancients must have had a place where things got built. Also I loved the idea that somewhere in Atlantis there was a secret place where they constructed ZPMs. Makes so much sense and that would have been a great show to see. I had also heard and I guess many others, that Daniel Jackson was suppose to end up being the new leader of Atlantis in season six. That would have been fantastic. It was such a great show and to me, could absolutely exist at the same time as SGU. What was most annoying about the end of Atlantis was that they killed it off for SGU but then didn't give SGU a chance to grow proper legs. The lack of views for tv shows shouldn't always be blamed on the viewers but on where most of the main problems are.. management and their inane choices.
As much as I loved SGA and the Stargate franchise, earth was getting too powerful by the later seasons. They had Atlantis, all the knowledge of the Asgard, and they could build the most powerful starships in the known galaxy. The show had to constantly find ways to prevent earth from using their best tech.
Yeah, I mean CGI has gotten so much better since SG-1 that the tech wouldn’t have been hard to portray. It would be cool to have earth finally not be the underdog. Be on the offensive.
@@MattyJ55046 That would have been the true prize of finding the ZPM Foundry. Finally taking away that constant lack of power and letting Earth take the fight to the Wraith properly. That would have been a S6 worth watching for sure.
I love this series, regretted when RDA/Jack O'Neill retired, fortunately a friend gave me the full collection in DVDs so I can review the good moments whenever I feel like it, loved Thor, hated the replicators! Amazing creation in all! Congratulations to the creators and writers. And thank you #GateWorld for this and #JosephMallozzi for the Breakdown 💖😻👍👏
As much as I miss the shows (SG-1, Atlantis, Universe), seeing all that made me glad Atlantis stopped where it did. The last season was already kind of a lackluster, but now knowing that they would have kept reviving characters supposed to be dead (for the Xth times by the way), solidifies my opinion that the show had run its course.
No, no it doesn't. If it happened today it would be all about pronouns Feminism and LGBTQ+ greatness. Just buy the DVDS & Blu-rays and revisit those good times, you can never go back but you can always rewatch.
@@jamesfcarlton6890 it's not negative it's the truth, no one, NO ONE wants more Star Gate than Myself however we all know what it would be. Hollyweird has to lose a lot more money before it starts making good non agenda driven shows again, I give it five more years, hopefully.
It's funny that you mentioned books because a follow-up on season 5 was made in book format. It's the Legacy Series which starts with the book "Homecoming" on Kindle. It doesn't play out as it was described in this video, but there are *some* similarities. Overall, it was quite satisfying to read even though it took me just over a year to go through all 8 books.
It's too bad Stargate didn't get the NCIS treatment with four spin offs and unlimited seasons. We would be watching new episodes today with the grandchildren of the original cast making guest appearances or better.
It actually had stargate origins (Catherine) tv show only lasted 1 season so yes stargate has 4 shows sg1,atlantis,universe,origin not to mention 3 movies in total
I miss this show so much... and I just miss the stargate brand...
I miss the entire stargate franchise really much too
Even Stargate Destiny was masterpiece for me but they ended it too early
I'm in the middle of rewatching SG1 now for about the 15th time. Best tv franchise ever.
I really wish that more fans had been willing to give Stargate Universe a chance. It really started to feel like they figured out a proper blend of SG and BSG by the second season and began to feel like Stargate again.
I miss it!
I really wish there had been a sixth season, this show is fantastic , actually I wish the show had run for 10 seasons just like SG1
Me too. Atlantis is my favorite Stargate, learning about this lost season made me want to rewatch it. Again lol
lol, i wish there was 10
@@ferrenbergIn case you don't know, Pluto TV (free streaming service) has an entire channel dedicated to all Star Gate shows. Unfortunately, Atlantis is only on from midnight to 9 am here. I'm either getting ready for work or sleeping! 😂
Not a huge fan of seasons 9 and 10 of SG-1, always felt jarring. And now that I know it was originally slated to be a completely different show, Stargate Command, it makes sense. It feels so different because it is.
I’ve always felt SG-1 ended with season 8, and as it turns out, it did.
Stargate was never the same after Rick Anderson left.
Honestly, I was hesitant to watch this video, but now that I am at the end, it brings tears to my eyes. Stargate was my all-time favorite TV show growing up, and I miss it. I make it a point to binge-watch it every year without fail. Your storytelling is impeccable and brings back a lot of nostalgia from the old shows. They should have never stopped. If Grey's Anatomy can continue this long, Stargate should never have stopped. We miss the swashbuckling action, intelligence, and ingenuity of both teams so much.
There's more wine mums out there than us unfortunately
Enjoy all the reality slop that's dominating the current media landscape ....
And it's not just shows like these, documentaries aren't even beimg re run...
@@DCG909 Honestly this society uses people and then discards them, and at the same time it Appeases the Wine Karens in name of false progress.
let me agree with the greatest quote from sg-1: "indeed" teal'c / like every episode
I have one TV that stays on the Stargate channel on Pluto! 😂😂😂 Never change it.
The season 6 that was presented here would have been amazing.
absolutely agreed. just the propsect of what if has already brought me back into hype mode for stargate. i think i'll binge rewatch sg-1 again
Agreed.
it is a possibility now...Amazon has purchased MGM and Stargate franchise and are keen to re-ignite the series and movies.
@@michaelvial125 But do we really want them to? So many old ip's have been butchered left and right and they have already stated that if Stargate is revived it will in fact not have anything to do with the original show runners
Agreed, but I don't like both Michael and Kolya coming back... one of them needs to stay dead. My vote is Kolya, his survival would make Shephard incompetent considering their last encounter.
Why did they not do this?
The pitch alone is better than 90% of the actually produced shows out today...
MGM was broke.
MGM got cold feet they where going through a lot of financial loss at the time.
@@TitanshieldGaming They bet the bank on SG-U, unfortunately that wasn't the correct play.
@dffndjdjd This. It was made clear that they had more options than they allowed fans to assume but like so many, felt moving onto bigger and better was best. The whole Sarah Gellar and Buffy type deal or D+D Showrunners of Game of Thrones type deal is how it retrospectively looks now. Then after the failure, it was what it always came down to, no money or investors and too little too late.
cuz WWF was cheaper and ran better ratings. simple as.
We had it so good back in the day. The double whammy of SG1 and Farscape running at the same time. Happy days.
Farscape, SG-1, Atlantis, and BSG in the span of a few short years made up for a fitting conclusion of sci-fi TV's golden age. It was a back to back thrill ride for a while.
You have great taste my freind , farscape is the greatest scfi series ever😊
Firefly as well!
@@patty-ow9ul ....2nd best maybe.
Proof....when Farscape ended....2 of the main actors joined SG1 for its last 2 seasons.
:))
@@NemoNoone-p3p yeah I remember happy days, there has been talk of a farscape reboot/continuation for a while, but all the red tape bs holds it back, but we can only 🙏🏻
Stargate was amazing! This show made me fall in love with Stargate all over again. After watching Atlantis I watched every single SG-1 episode and read every book I could get a hold of.
Thank you Stargate Atlantis.
a lot of these sound really good , although the ''somehow michael survived, somehow ford survived, somehow kolya survived'' is a bit much
Since only Ford wasn't actualy seen dying and apparently escaped makes sense, otherise I agree with bringing back Kolya and Michael is overkill just for the fan service of "beloved" characters. Only a "he was a clone" or comes from an alternate timeline would work for Michael, but Kolya was seen being killed and only came back later because of an ancient self-defense feature trying to delay Shepard (like that better)
*Yeah Michael would have been a bit too much. Even though liking the actor especially in Star Trek Enterprise series I was ready to see that character off. Lol* 😂🤣
And Weir.
@@andrewmalinowski6673 Alternate timeline or time travel is also a possibility for putting into a plot. Not that these characters come into the 'real world' but are encountered while the team end up in the alternate reality. You could even have a 2-3 part story arc where they go to an alternate world and Kolya is the antagonist again but it turns out he's actually the good guy in this version. It would be worth having an episode that explores what happens if Shepherd's team don't wake up the wraith or didn't abandon Tyrus (Sora's father) and how that would affect their relationship with the Genii.
Somehow "the tower" survived and launched a bunch of jumpers and drones despite the city being structurally shattered and all it's drones and jumpers having been transferred to Atlantis four years earlier...
I loved SG-1, but Atlantis was my favorite of the SG series. I really wish it had gone on for as many seasons as SG-1 did.
I loved the chemistry between Sheppard, and McKay, and later Ronon Dex. They were the trifecta of cool. McKay, while some thought he was annoying, he was one of my favorite television characters and David Hewlett was a perfect casting choice.
Zelenka, Beckett, Dr Keller, Weir, Teyla....such interesting and fun characters. The series really should have gone on much longer but I am glad we were graced with five seasons.
I really miss this show.
If you are in for it, there are 8 books of the SGA legacy series. They are well written. There is also a lot of character development. Can absolutely recommend
@@thirstyfordoctor609 *Curious I didn’t know this, thanks.*
It was just as real off camera. David and Joe were recently in the Jason's series See, and Joe was in a commercial with Jason.
Somewhere, perhaps in an alternate universe, I have no doubt that we all have the biggest 'McKay' grin on our face as we sit back and turn up the volume on the season 7 premier.
If so, they have a lot better writers and showrunners than our Universe does.
Yeah... Or at least a satisfying ending. One that covers the issues to Atlantis... Like Zero Point Modules, self repair, nanites and rapid shipbuilding... and things like that, combined with all the character moments.
That would have been a much more satisfying end to Atlantis than what we got. What a shame Atlantis was in the sci-fi network’s hands at the time.
You say that like producers like Netflix or Amazon would be better... (I saw what they did to The Witcher....... we *all* saw.) That said, Amazon did right by 'The Expanse'.
This is so cool. Thanks a lot. Although some clearly needed some polish
- I dont like all the revivals. Kolya, Ford, Elizabeth, Michael...they are dead. I hate when a show doesnt commits to permanent changes. IE: Carlson. I liked his death, it was sad because I loved the char, but then it felt super dumb and clumsy how they returned him. Kolya's dead was a bit underwhelming...but he was dead.
- Most the episodes seem focused on filling space with repetitive concepts (Some already played in atlantis itself), rather than to further develop the existing stories, villains and problems.
- Atlantis Vs Another ancient city Is great, and tod is a great solution, but he is still an enemy, they still feed on humans, Atlantis needed to solve this amongst other things
- FINALLY seeing something about how they built their ZPMs would be great. Even if it was really hard, dangerous, and time consuming.
Here's how I'd refine those ideas into something more coherent:
The returning characters:
- Ford survived but was stranded on the planet the hive was attempting to cull (space gate without a ship), the same planet would eventually turn out to be the hidden location of the ZPM factory allowing the team to reuinite with him.
- Michael survived because the "Michael" we saw in "The Prodigal" was actually a clone. It would explain why he ended up being so careless and overly emotional. He was psychologically unstable because Michael's cloning process was imperfect due to a lack of resources.
- As for Elizabeth, don't bring back an organic Elizabeth, have the Travelers or the Wraith (most likely the former) discover the replicators in deep space and accidentally wake them up and have that be Carl's replicator story.
- Kolya, I'm tempted to also bring back as a clone but at this point it would be nigh impossible for Michael (or the renegade Asgard, the only other group I could think of) to clone him. Better not. His death wasn't all that anticlimactic.
The story arc:
- Have the future scenes in "Yesterday, Today, Tomorrow" be set during the events of the finale.
- Have the ZPM mishap be what propels the team to look for the ZPM factory.
- Have the city-ship from "The Tower" be captured and restored by the Renegade Asgard rather than Kolya (there is no way the Genii would have the means to fix it or even operate it).
- Have the events of Hamster Ball, the Replacements and Michael's mid-season two-part takeover all be a one big storyline with the villains behind the former two being the Renegade Asgard, and have it end with the revelation that Michael is now working with them against Atlantis.
- Todd getting captured by the Wraith should be the start of a season-long throughline in which Teyla uses her queen guise to slowly persuade the rest of the Wraith to go along with using Michael's gene therapy so that they no longer need to feed on humans.
- After the replicators are accidentally woken up by the Travelers, they split into two camps, one that wants to just disappear and try to ascend and another that wants revenge on Atlantis first, the latter, led by Weir eventually stumble onto the Atlantis team and pass along the information about the Asuran superweapon while the latter join forces with Michael and the Renegade Asgard and help them restore the city-ship.
- The Season finale is the Asgard's restored city ship and smaller replicator-controlled Auroras vs. Atlantis and a fleet of Wraith and Traveler warships.
- In the end we get a peace treaty between Atlantis and the Pegasus coalition and the remaining Wraith Hives who agree to take the drug and lose their dependency on consumption of humans. Michael is killed off for real, the remaining Renegade Asgard agree to a truce as well and are given a ship with which to leave the Pegasus galaxy, the remaining replicators are persuaded by Weir to stand down. Peace in the Pegasus galaxy at long last. The end.
Yeah, most of these plot sketches feel thematically hollow. It’s just stuff happening. I get they’re just rough brainstorms, but Atlantis S5 also feels a little thematically bankrupt to me, like the show is running on fumes. (Except the finale. The finale slaps.)
@@TheJovian16 I would like that mishap to be a result of McKey attempting to produce a ZPM as opposed to finding the factory. I think it makes more sense for this accident to happen in production.
I wouldn't bring any of those characters back, we saw them die. Make room for the new characters. A run-in with other wraith-enzyme takers I'd take.
Wow, I'm not one to give likes normally, but the editor did a great job on the clips showing the people who were being talked about and sometimes even similar events. Good job. 👍
Thank you! Wasn't sure how I was going to pull this off, but I'm very proud of the edit.
@@GateWorldDotNet *You should be **#Darren**. Job well done 👍🏼 mate.* 😉 ❤️
Well this was weirdly emotional. Season 6 would have been amazing.
Thank you for this. I LOVED Star Gate Atlantis, it is my 2nd favorite show of all time, behind Star Gate SG-1. I have wished for a very long time that it would not have ended.
They need to continue this. Love this show. I have the series in dvd and get them out when l begin to miss it. Thank you
Joe Flanigan (Shepherd) tried to get investors together to continue Atlantis in some form, and even got a level of buy-in from MGM, but ultimately the deal was scuppered by MGM's bankruptcy. Nowadays, alas, I think it's too late. Half the cast are off doing their own bigger things and half of them are retired or not working as actors anymore.
Do you want Amazon to bring it back and bring back Weir or Carter and make them an insufferable girl boss and turn Sheppard and the various males into beta cucks? Because they will do it.
If you have this in DVD you're missing out.
The Bluray set is fantastic and one of my prized collections
@@ijmad Just imagine trying to get Jason back.
@@ijmad Generative AI could help complete the script and then make the video, some bits could be made by filming anyone and using AI to restyle and revoice bits.
What timing - we are watching all Stargate shows again. We are up to Season 4 of Atlantis. Season 6 would have been awesome 🤩
I miss Atlantis AO MUCH. I would relish rhe chance to see EVERY S6 episode and revel in its glory
I miss SGU more than SGA or SG1
I wish they can bring back SGA, I miss it so much!
Yesterday, Today and Tomorrow would have also made for an excellent Mid-season pair. Lots to explore with that concept.
Any and all of them would have been so fun! Especially the Weir storyline! I would love to see them. I'm so thankful Joseph understands how much the fans care and chose to share all this! Thank you, Darren, for giving us this video! 😊😊
Thanks for watching!
@@GateWorldDotNet *YES indeed **#Darren** thank you so very much for sharing this.* ❤️
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Wauw i wish this season was made.. it sounds incredible.. makes me (again) miss the show😢
This was fun. Thanks! The only thing missing for me was the return of the Asgard's splinter group. An easy, it writes itself, episode of coming across them once again in an ancient outpost. One of the short comings of SG1 and Atlantis is the story thread of ancient chairs in seemingly random places with ZPM's. How about Zelenka had a pet project this entire time trying to answer the question about why the planet Proclarush had a chair and if there were any in the Pegasus galaxy. We get flashbacks with Zelenka on earth and ultimately this being one of the main reasons he was chosen for the Atlantis expedition. Finally, in this, shall we say season 7 episode, Zelenka finishes his research (of which he has been working on since just after the events of The Lost City) to find a map seemingly of sorts to all the chairs left in the Pegasus galaxy and their respective outposts. Tentatively, the team searches one of the locations to find the Asgard. End Part 1. Part 2 finds the team and Asgard to join forces against a Wraith fleet determined to destroy the Asgard. The Asgard explain that they had tried to remove the information about the remaining chairs from all records they could find in Pegasus. Since Zelenka used info from the Milkyway he ultimately solved the problem. The Asgard have multiple outposts under their control and wish to keep it a secret for fear of the Wraith learning the information. Zelenka and the team trade the chair location information for a truce and information on how to manufacture ZPMs, how to unlock new locations on Atlantis, and two chair locations the Asgard don't use (they were going to return to for later use but ultimately decided to destroy all the remaining unoccupied chairs) since they took the working ZPMs from them already. This opens the door to Rodney and his Sister creating a sort of not so powerful version of the ZPMs enough to power up outpost systems but not enough power a chairs weapons. So then we can have an episode about the IOA working to assign teams to these chairs. Or..... something like that....o7
I was on the younger side when this premiered. Thanks to streaming I found myseld watching almost all things SG in the last year. Great series that deserves reboot.
Great video summary of the episode breakdown. Thanks Darren!
Thanks for watching!
@@GateWorldDotNet*#Darren** I thought you said in your last email that you was too busy to make these posts anymore buddy.* 🎉
Thanks so much for posting! Season 6 would have been awesome if these had been made
Years later I really miss this show and the other Stargate series. There is nothing like this now, how can they not see that this was a loved series???
Man, this brings back so many memories of the shows. I love and miss this whole franchise.
Individually, I like most of these ideas. But as a season, too many time travel and too many "ohh you thought they were dead, now they are alive" episodes
The idea of bringing back; Aiden, Elizabeth, Todd, and creating the multi-POV story all sound cool. Bringing back Kolya and Michael seem like stretches given the fact that Kolya was seen being shot by Shepard and Michael falling off the spire seem more like ends to the characters and unless it's revealed in the hybrid invasion that the Michael who attacked Atlantis was a clone (he already had a clone of Beckett) this seems like the only viable meaning.
Hearing about the "Rashoman" story reminds me of a TNG episode with Riker accused of the death of a scientist, and using the holodeck to depict the viewpoints of the "witneses"
I really liked Dr Weir the show wasnt the same after she left Aiden too
Stargate SG-1 and Atlantis were masterpieces.
Indeed.
I miss the stargate franchise
It took me a long time to get over Stargate Atlantis ending prematurely. This just brings it back lol. Great info and this list season sounded like it would've been great.
I miss SG-1 and Atlantis, so much. Devoted fan. Thanks for this great glimpse into what an Atlantis future season could have been!
I miss SG1 and Stargate Atlantis so much!!! 😢
Man they should bring this back. I know that Joe Flanigan has always wanted it to come back and I'd bet most of the cast would but Jason probably wouldn't be able to do it, I'd bet his dance card is pretty full for a while.
I've miss this show, The stargate brand was fantastic
Man, we got robbed. Stargate Atlantis was the best of the three and it always bothered me that it ended the way it did. I would have loved to watch this new season.
I so wish they had made a season six and more. These episodes sound amazing!
no word for all the goosebumps i had while watching this
Honestly I just want to see stargate make a come back.
You know they would ruin it, better to go out on a high note
Stargate can never survive in the current environment. They would mutilated into something unrecognizable.
The culture simply does not exist anymore.
@@TheTangothrax good point they would follow Disney and ruin it.
Like many here, I miss Stargate. A season six would've been awesome...
Nothing will ever be like when I first watched Stargate for the first time. Man do I miss this series and I really hope to see it in some form in the future.
Thank you so much!! It feels like another lifetime ago since this series.
I would pay a ridiculous amount of money to watch this
This is the best video I have watched in years. Makes my heart full.
Thanks for watching!
@@GateWorldDotNet *Thank you **#Darren** for coming back and leaving some replies mate* 👍🏼
Wish a Season 6 was produced rather than what could've been
Thank you for the great summary of the lost six seasons, and the use of visuals to help the audience not only follow the plot ideas, but also allow us to think we are watching a season recap. Brilliant job!
Thank you! This was the most fun I've had editing in a long time.
@@GateWorldDotNet it really shows! Thank you
I love Atlantis! It’s sad because I feel like SGA was always good, but they really figured out where they were going there at the end
What an era of sci fi this was. The best couch surfing in my lifetime.
Same here! It's a real shame that they allowed for this franchise to die!
I know a lot of fans were so angry with the end of Atlantis that they refused to watch Universe. I was angry too, but gave Universe a chance then, and was glad I did. But I still wish we'd gotten our season 6, and our season 3 of Universe…
I dunno what Amazon can do with the franchise now. I dunno if they could really make continuing the series WORK (we've become powerful enough to take on the Orii and the Wraith… What's left?) If they reboot the franchise WELL, I'd watch that. But c'mon Amazon, do SOMETHING with Stargate already!
All of these sound so good! I miss Atlantis but most of all I miss the team and their banter and shenanigans. And space vampires! Todd was awesome!
Love to hear these ideas. But it also makes me very sad... (That we never got them)
Very good job editing. Must have been a nightmare!
Thank you! Wasn't sure how I was going to pull this off, but I'm very proud of the edit. I've been pondering how to tackle this for a good long while now.
@@GateWorldDotNet *Again excellent work **#Darren**, thanks again mate.* 👍🏼 ❤️ 😉
That would have been AMAZING!!! I would totally support an animated next Season, if that means a new season but using a lower budget. I need for SG, you have no idea.
Hi, the last episode you mentioned, it sounded fantastic! would have loved to see that! take care and have agreat day!
MAN!! That was great! I miss shows the have a 20+ episode season!. SG:A could have easily gone 10 seasons like SG1.
Pushing almost a quarter million views in 3 days for a series that ended over a decade ago… there is a significant loyal Stargate fan base.
Unfortunately I don’t think Hollywood can produce these kinds of shows these days. Too much worry about shareholders, modern political agendas and increasingly poor CGI. Really sad, but I’m glad I lived through the best of Television.
I just watched all 5seasons as i do once a yr, the remastered bluray 1080p is insanely beautiful... def one of my favorite scifi series... 🍿
while i mirror your FEELING that the show "killed off so many in unsatisfying ways" i never really found it a problem.
that's death. There usually isn't a poetic meaning, a nice tying up of loose ends or other (basically) fan-service moments.
Death strikes at random.
I thought the death scenes of every named character was handled with grace and elegance. Especially Carson.
I disliked the decisions to write off both Carson and Weir. But I do think they were done well overall, dramatically. They wanted to have the option to keep bringing Weir back, but unfortunately the result was that they left her fate vague and the character never really got a proper conclusion.
The one that really still bugs me is Kolya. His death is such an unnecessary choice that seems like an afterthought that was tacked onto the episode for behind-the-scenes reasons we aren't privy to.
@@GateWorldDotNet Definitely disagree with the take on Kolya. Sheppard was DONE with that man. He had made the mistake of not killing him before and it bit him in the arse, hard.
No way Kolya was ever walking away from that encounter. It was him or Sheppard in that episode, plain and simple. Having him get away would have been the worse narrative choice. As it would have made Sheppard seem pathetic, promising to kill Kolya only to let him walk for no reason.
Kolya was a great enemy, but Sheppard had made the decisions to kill him long before they entered that town. It was just a matter of when those paths crossed and he finally got a clean shot on him.
@@tyrannicpuppy ...agreed. Sometimes you just got to s-oot a MF :)
It's a shame this ended, especially with the Wraith threat still being as large as ever.
Man i would have loved to see Season 6. Also, more Deadalus Variations aliens would have been very much welcome 😁
I grew up with stargate, and Atlantis was my favorite. This made my day!
this show was great because it had amazing ideas and managed to realize them perfectly
re your point around the potential episode 19 there.. another thing that was unsatisfying was the number of times in both SG-1 and Atlantis when they got their hands on an alien ship only to have it explode by the end of the episode, or in the next episode sometimes. Like in SG-1's 8x01 "New Order Part 1" when they lose the Tel'Tak that Colonel O'Neill modified at the end of Season 7.
"a good old fashion ZPM hunt" got me hard
SGU is my all-time favorite. Loved the different take, more serious tone. Rewatch and notice the great story telling.
Im seriously shocked there is not currently a stargate series. Why? Please someone make it (just not like the web series pls).
Also, awesome editing! Now I need to rewatch the Vegas episode.
Thank you! Wasn't sure how I was going to pull this off, but I'm very proud of the edit.
@@GateWorldDotNet *You did another great job **#Darren** and I thank you for this production.* ❤ 😊
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@@GateWorldDotNet *Wasn’t these shown on the old SyFi tv network **#Darren**⁉️* 🤷🏼♂️ 😊
*I’m sorry **#Darren**, I’ll just email you. But watching this again gets me excited and wondering if “Prime Video” might come around and start production on **#StarGate** again. Fingers crossed.* 🤞🏼
You can bring it back. Good luck with the sponsorship. Go for it!
I wish we had this 6th season over SGU, because SGA ended so abruptly.
However... I think I would have liked maybe only half of these episodes. I'm gonna go over negative points first, then end on the positive stuff. I am aware that this was a snapshot in early writting, stuff would have been quite different for the finished product.
Time travel ? Again ? I think that besides SG-1's Window of Opportunity, SGA's The Last man and SGU's Time, Stargate time travel stories are just bad. I've been vocal in the past about how awful I thought SG Extinction was. I'll keep it short, but I think that time travel stories just end up being messy, changing past event for no good reason, and overall lacking what makes Stargate interesting.
I see Michael and Kolya are back... Which is weird, because I thought they had satisfying ends. Instead, I wish this 6th season focused more on the Vanir Asgards, who I think should have been a seasonal enemy, instead of beign confined to a double episode.
I still see no set up for Stargate Universe. Was it already under development at this time ?
Now for the positive: I love that Weir is back. Carter and Woolsey were great, but I think that Weir was really unique in Stargate.
I am very intersted by Carl's Replicator's story, Classic Stargate, Carter Roshomon, The Red shirt diairies, The Replacements, Hexed, Entropy, Revenge and Payback. They seem like very cool episodes.
Yea, I didn't like returning Fort and Kolya and Micheal. Also, it has been a while, but I thought the other city was out of drones and worse of then Atlantis. There is no way Kolya and co would have the ability to fix it and bring it in a better state as Atlantis. (They could have found a third city perhaps. Though that seems unlikely as well. I would have preferred that the Vanir Asgards filled the end threat)
But like you, I think there are a bunch of episodes I really would have liked to see.
@@MarijnvdSterre No, it wasn't that city, it was another like it, in other words there were at least 3 Atlantis's (besides the ones that Galaxies replicators made).
@@jonathanberry1111 Conclusion: I really need to watch the show again ^^
Agree 100%.
@@MarijnvdSterre Sure, that's a given but just clarifying that they only have 2 "Atlantis's" in the show (not counting the ones the Pegasus galaxy replicators made) but in this video they said this was "another Atlantis like the one in that episode". So not the same one. But yes rewatching is the best we have for now.
Shared to my X Darren! Thanks for everything you do for the community!
Thanks so much! I appreciate the support.
I want more Stargate Atlantis! Please! A sad fan from Germany...
yeah!
All of these breakdowns sound great.
I wish that they would continue where they left off with Atlantis, and do these, and more.
i miss SGA so much ._.
I have re-watched all these shows several times and honestly ended each season with wanting more....I even grew to love Stargate Universe , thank you for putting this Outline Narration together, it's too bad we didn't experience more...this genre and its style of presentation is sorely missed.
I'm surprised he never realesed the story to read like he did with SG1! It would have been the best edition I bet with shepherd finding the Stargate hub and building a lot of replicators to keep all the new facilities running making ZPM's and all! It was helarious when he found out all the Stargates had cameras on them all along 😂
Yeah the last episode of atlantis seemed like it was super rushed, and I feel like a season 6 was absolutely necessary. Thank you so much for sharing :)
Season 6 would have been awesome
This is one of my favorite TV shows and I was so upset when it ended.
Maaan these stories are so cool and interesting. Im pretty tilted that those will never make it to reality.
And now I'm going to rewatch again for the millionth time lol live it
While there are a few ideas that probably needed some more thought and there are maybe a few too many "Somehow, [Dead Character] returned.", it would very likely have been a fun and enjoyable season of television, with a fun and capable cast of established characters able to breathe plenty of life and energy into even the ropier plots.
I miss SGA, and SG1, and SGU although flawed definitely improved over time. I have a friend much younger than me who never watched Star-anything, was never much of a sci-fi fan at all, and yet recently on my recommendation she watched and absolutely loved SG1 and SGA. My 70-odd year old parents, me at nearly 40, my friend in her mid-20's, all very different people and yet all big fans of the Stargate franchise. There's gold in that there puddle, TV execs - time to jump back in.
Agree with your first paragraph, I think that was emblematic of SGA, it felt utterly unable to move on narratively from around Season 3. It often introduced really interesting things but never developed them and continually circled back to plots that had been concluded.
@@Red1Green2Blue3 Season 6 was a chance for a complete refresh for the show. As politicans reallocate resources for rescuing the people stuck on the ancient starship in Stargate Universe and on preparing for the reveal to the general public.
SGA having to survive and roughing it on Camp Atlantis would have been interesting. As there job is just recon and to recover anymore technology from Pegasus now and they are only there because they volunteer to be, an US lobbied for such a stripped down Atlantis expedition.
So imagine the team having to live in tent, survive on ever scraps Earth sends them. Even Daedalus regular supply missions are seen as a diversion from finding a new naquadria planet.
With hints that whatever Dr Rush is after, the IOA knows as well and sees it as priority over Pegasus galaxy.
The Stargate stories all possessed a unique quality that I think is greatly missed today. To me it's along the lines of how Top Gun did so well in the box office. Kind of the wholesome aspect that shows back then have over the ones of today.
Its pretty obvious and simple....
Everything woke turns to sh-t.
This would have been epic… reintroducing my favorites. Amazon get on the stick!
This was so satisfying, thank you! I wish the show could have made it 10 season, and I would have loved to see the return of Weir.
Honestly, it was obvious SGA was not supposed to end the way it did, and it should have gotten another season.
Universe was too serious and weird, but had immense potential.
Right now, i would do a new series, decades into the future, where the Pegasus Galaxy problem has basically been solved, new tech and more ships have arrived for the humans, but with the Universe ships going a looooong way, we should now be able to visit many galaxies, with all kinds of enemies, though only focussing on 2 basically.
By the way, with the Pegasus replicators, when they went to the planet, they should have stolen a BUNCH of ZPMs, possibly see how they could wipe a bunch, perhaps have stolen a few complete cities, which they could then move to Earth, and completely fit out with many people and ships and make adjustments and mods and use as platforms to move to those 2 new galaxies, now having a city on Earth, Pegasus galaxy, and two new ones, well, in due time, again, a few decades. You'd need a lot of time to go through those cities and learn ev erything about the tech, because well, humanity has only so many scientists that are good enough and you cannot use them all without all of this definitely leaking to the public. Then recruiting and training enough scientists and soldiers and pilots and designing new ships and adjusting the cities so those ships fit in them and or can dock with it also takes quite a bit of time. Doing it on the moon with 3-4 Ancient cities at the same time and basically designing XXL cloaked shuttles to ships to shuttle people and equipment around, along side with maybe for Goa'Uld cloaked ships, would be a priority. Of course decades from now the people would know, and humanity would have come together a bit.
There would also of course be multiple Ancient settlements found through the Pegasus galaxy, all functioning as bases for humans and their allies. Including of course locations of productions facilities, the Ancient made ships, ZPM's, all kinds of stuff, maybe they made smaller things in every city, but there should be basis for the rest. Humanity would be using those to create their own designed ships, likely hybrid ships, mixing elements from Human, Goa'uld, Ancient, etc. tech.
Immense potential if they hadn't alienated the fans by having it kill SGA and had kept the tone more fitting with Stargate, you can be a bit more serious without making everyone an a-hole.
Beautiful editing of old episodes to support the new lost episodes. I feel like I've watched the sixth season.
Thank you!
Loved this. Could you do another about Universe. The Lost season of stargate universe.
Joe has posted a good bit about the different ways the SGU cliffhanger might have been resolved in a third season opener. I'd like to do a video on that at some point!
What I would have liked from Stargate Atlantis was a shipyard. Somewhere in the Ancient's Galaxies, they have an Ancient shipyard. A place where all the Aurora class ships were built, where city ships were built. Where puddle jumpers were built en masse. Maybe even see a sister ship of sorts of Destiny (or the hull of one). Showing off their shipyard could have been a late episode in a "planned" final season so as it couldn't be used to give them total power while the show was running, but going forward would make the future an amazing place. Maybe it was in The Milky Way galaxy or in the Pegasus galaxy or maybe even in a secret pocket galaxy somewhere in between (which would be something the Ancients would totally have done), but the Ancients must have had a place where things got built.
Also I loved the idea that somewhere in Atlantis there was a secret place where they constructed ZPMs. Makes so much sense and that would have been a great show to see. I had also heard and I guess many others, that Daniel Jackson was suppose to end up being the new leader of Atlantis in season six. That would have been fantastic. It was such a great show and to me, could absolutely exist at the same time as SGU.
What was most annoying about the end of Atlantis was that they killed it off for SGU but then didn't give SGU a chance to grow proper legs. The lack of views for tv shows shouldn't always be blamed on the viewers but on where most of the main problems are.. management and their inane choices.
As much as I loved SGA and the Stargate franchise, earth was getting too powerful by the later seasons. They had Atlantis, all the knowledge of the Asgard, and they could build the most powerful starships in the known galaxy. The show had to constantly find ways to prevent earth from using their best tech.
Yeah, I mean CGI has gotten so much better since SG-1 that the tech wouldn’t have been hard to portray. It would be cool to have earth finally not be the underdog. Be on the offensive.
@@MattyJ55046 That would have been the true prize of finding the ZPM Foundry. Finally taking away that constant lack of power and letting Earth take the fight to the Wraith properly. That would have been a S6 worth watching for sure.
So sad, too bad! I so enjoyed all the Stargate shows. Wish it had continued for many decades on Television.🤩
This series had anogther good THREE more seasons in it!!!. I still mourn its cancelation. TERRIBLE decision!!
I love this series, regretted when RDA/Jack O'Neill retired, fortunately a friend gave me the full collection in DVDs so I can review the good moments whenever I feel like it, loved Thor, hated the replicators! Amazing creation in all! Congratulations to the creators and writers. And thank you #GateWorld for this and #JosephMallozzi for the Breakdown 💖😻👍👏
More Todd.
As much as I miss the shows (SG-1, Atlantis, Universe), seeing all that made me glad Atlantis stopped where it did.
The last season was already kind of a lackluster, but now knowing that they would have kept reviving characters supposed to be dead (for the Xth times by the way), solidifies my opinion that the show had run its course.
Season 6 needs to happen, in some way. Cartoon, comic book or whatever, but it needs to happen!
No, no it doesn't. If it happened today it would be all about pronouns Feminism and LGBTQ+ greatness. Just buy the DVDS & Blu-rays and revisit those good times, you can never go back but you can always rewatch.
@@loslobos786 *Please don’t be so bloody cold and negative FFS* 💁🏼♂️ 🤦🏼♂️ ☠️ 🌪🌪🌪
@@jamesfcarlton6890 it's not negative it's the truth, no one, NO ONE wants more Star Gate than Myself however we all know what it would be. Hollyweird has to lose a lot more money before it starts making good non agenda driven shows again, I give it five more years, hopefully.
It's funny that you mentioned books because a follow-up on season 5 was made in book format. It's the Legacy Series which starts with the book "Homecoming" on Kindle. It doesn't play out as it was described in this video, but there are *some* similarities. Overall, it was quite satisfying to read even though it took me just over a year to go through all 8 books.
We need to point amazon in this direction, It's the start we need with some tweaks to include (Conclude) SG-U and Homeworld command (SG-1)
It's too bad Stargate didn't get the NCIS treatment with four spin offs and unlimited seasons. We would be watching new episodes today with the grandchildren of the original cast making guest appearances or better.
Well ncis have really low budget and no real visual effects compared to stargate.
So it is much easier to mass produce that
It actually had stargate origins (Catherine) tv show only lasted 1 season so yes stargate has 4 shows sg1,atlantis,universe,origin not to mention 3 movies in total
Episode 15 sounds like an episode of Startrek Voyager, where the ship gets fractured into different temporal states.
I miss the Stargate universe