How Humanity Created The BORG! - Star Trek Explained
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- The Borg are perhaps considered the Ultimate Villains of Star Trek. Ever since there impressive and scary first appearance in the 1989 “Q Who” episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation, the creepy cybernetic humanoids have been a constant problem and concern for the Federation and other galactic species. The Borg Collective was so intimidating due to there ultimate goal. This being the atonement of perfection through the forcible assimilation of other species.
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I still like the idea of Borg origins to be remained a mystery.
Agreed
@@blacktronpavel Perhaps their origin should be left as the subject of an unresolved/unresolvable temporal paradox.
@@carnotantonioromero3024 Well it’s been shown that their whole interaction arc with Earth is simply a bootstrap paradox in order to remove a potential threat that effectively destabilises their overall collective, but also saves them from extinction by another species. The fact that they may have bootstraped before with other species and ended up rebuilding remnant collectives on multiple occasions, which is hinted at by their terrible knowledge from prior centuries, may suggest that they just keep going after anything that ultimately leads to a destruction of the collective and then they just reformed afterwards again. They also may have been created on many occasions and rebuilt themselves out of the remnants of the past versions of similar designs.
Contentious opinion: the Borg queen was a mistake. The Borg was scarier when it was an anonymous collective, capable of complex thought but without a single central personality. The queen came about due to a shortsighted need for a conventional antagonist.
Agreed, I've said the same and including Locutus.
Yes! Their first appearance was truly horrifying. After that they became weaker and more conventional. A great idea that the producers really couldn’t handle.
I also agree. Before the queen and locutus. Borg were much better villains. Perhaps too good.
I would say it would have been better if the queen was actually an "administrator profile" specifically designed to determine what does and doesn't get assimilated. Then if you remove one queen another drone gets updated to become the next queen.
I couldn't agree more. Man, Q introducing the Borg is still one of TNG's greatest episodes. And that episode set a great tone as to who the Borg were. It a shame that over time their role in trek as a serious threat was constantly diminished to them being a joke by the last time we see them in Picard.
given a constant rate of assimilation, it has been variously estimated that the Borg spawned from their homeworld somewhere in the Delta quadrant sometime between the ninth and 14th centuries.
Is that constant assimilation rate based on the very long timeframe that they've been assimilated, assuming an average for the constant value that would hold true even with dramatic changes over shorter time periods? Or is it based their observed assimilation behavior indicating a more or less constant rate? I could buy the former, but the latter would be basing this assumption on too short a time frame, I think.
The scary thing is that the collective appears to be a type of nexus being. In Picard it was stated that the Queens were aware of time disruptions and capable of traveling through time. This would suggest that they have no real singular beginnings and that even all the possible origins might all be technically true at the same time.
hey what if the borg who can live in space entered the nexxus ribbon
they could pop out anywhere in time and space and create havoc
Guinan's people was almost wiped out by the Borg, no? "Your biological distinctivnesses will be assimilated"?
@@johnjames4834 Ribbon reacted very destructively to technology so most likely it would shred the Borg who tried to enter it.
The Destiny series of books are some of my favorites to read.
I like that Destiny series origin of the borg much more.
I believe that the Destiny story explains the Borg story best. It explains their obsession to reach Earth
I like the idea of the Borg coming from outside the galaxy. It would reconcile Guinan's claim that they've been developing for thousands of centuries with the Vaaduar's claim that the Collective only had a small number of planets during their time. The Borg could have developed for thousands of centuries in their home galaxy before arriving in the Milky Way during the time of the Vaaduar's empire. It would also mean that there could be an entire galaxy or even multiple galaxies assimilated by the Borg out there.
I agree. It would be fun. Although they wouldnt be in humanoid form.
No, I dont agree! I believe they were an accident created by an inept race like the Pakleds tinkering with technology they didn't understand!
In one TOS episode, there were a group of refugees who were from the Andromeda galaxy who said they were fleeing from a galaxy wide war that destroyed their civilization. Someone, I don’t remember who, theorized that it might have been the Borg. Would make sense.
@@antonhei2443 Borg is the technology, not the form, the humanoid form is what they assimilate.
@@williamainsworth2256 Didn't they flee from galaxy-wide rising radiation levels though?
The designations the Borg use for labelling a species is numerical, literal starting at Species 1 and going up, which kinda makes sense, but one funny thing, the Ferengi are numbered 180 & even though distance-wise aren't too far from Earth, Humans are Species 5618. I would've thought if a human was the first Borg, humans would be Species 1... it would be nice to get some canon backstory.
Either it was the caretaker (as there's a reference in an Episode of Voyager) or seeking new ground for profits they send some ships out.
The Ferengi traveled everywhere. Like all over way before humans did. They def fucked around and found out early with the borg.
All borg sub-collectives (proper term for cubes or groups?) would likely be creating these designations in tandem across their locations in the universe. This could lead to sudden increases in assimilation designator numbers in a very short time.
I like the theory that the Borg don't really have a origin as they are an amalgamation of various civilizations and parts of civilizations that let their technology run out of control giving them many origin points as the smaller collectives interact with and become absorbed by the main collective.
It's so funny that I come across this video this afternoon when I actually just got done rereading the Star Trek Destiny trilogy and its version of the Borg's origins just a couple of days ago. Despite it not quite squaring with Guinan's explanation to Captain Picard in TNG season 2 that the meshing of organic and cybernetic elements had been developing for thousands of centuries, I still found it the most compelling Borg origin story because of the irony of humanity's involvement in unintentionally creating one of its most deadly enemies. It felt less forced than the paradox suggested at the end of the Enterprise Borg episode that it was unknown, unintended consequences of the crew of the Enterprise-E thwarting the Borg's attempt to stop First Contact and not Q flinging the Enterprise-D into the path of a Borg Cube at system J-25 that made the Borg fully aware of humans and the Federation. Voyager's stories of the assimilation of Seven and her parents had already provided loose explanations for how the Borg knew enough about humans to pull off the attacks on the remote outposts along both sides of the Federation-Romulan border near the Neutral Zone. At any rate, the very first time I read that part of the Destiny story that the Borg derived crazed member of the Caeliar forcibly enslaving surviving members of the Columbia NX-02, I couldn't help but wondering at the reactions of both Jonathan Archer and Vulcan Ambassador Soval had both those characters survived into the 24th century to hear Erika Hernandez's discovery of the Borg's connection to the Caeliar and humanity. especially Soval's reaction to the human connection.
Humanity did not create the borg. But humanity destroyed them wigh inconsistent scriptwriting.
Depends on what you look at
@@trazyntheinfinite9895 v'ger was the start of the Borg. What the original motion picture
That's just a fan theory
@@whitejason963 Fan theory with zero canon confirmation.
@@whitejason963 it was not.
The Borg were supposed to be insectoid but it got changed because of the impossible budget it would have demanded.
Also: compare the absolute POWER of V'ger and then look at the Borg. How the fuck did they get so weak?
The V'ger Borg connection is retarded fan wank.
I like the idea of the Borg being part of a Steampunk world or a world like Fallout where everybody still uses rotary dial phones but has nuclear powered cars.
It wouldn’t be “The Borg “ it would be B O R G .
Biomechanical Ordinance Research Group. Something that started small but slowly took over. The Enterprise would stumble across their home world now long dead and find billboards for BORG refrigerators and such.
Star Trek the Motion Picture is my personal canon for the creation of the Borg.
Fatal flaw in the last part of possible borg origins. Species numbers. If Human were the directly the cause of the Borg wouldn't their species number be like 001, 002 or even 003?
Everyone knows the Borg were the Cylons, 200,000,ooo years ago
Fracking toasters
Better be related to original alien reptiles 👽 storyline. Dislike the reboot Terminators 😂
All this has happened before, and it will happen again.
Number 6 one hot toaster.
So say we all. @@Elvisbackpack
An excellent opportunity for a Borg origin story was in Voyager. The Borg and Videans should have had a shared ancestry. The phage that was destroying the Videans could have separated their species into 2 factions. One chose to pursue harvesting other species and integrating their organic parts. The other also chose to integrate cybernetic tech as well.
@@vin6135 dang that would have been crazy freaky brilliant, tho already so terrifying
Who says that there need be a single “original” Borg species? If different civilizations can independently develop warp technology, then different civilizations could independently develop the cybernetic technology that forms the building blocks of (small ‘b’) borg life. And the overtime, these different “borgs”, including vger, encounter one another and become (capital ‘B’) Borg that we all know.
That’s actually an interesting idea.
Yeah, most of the time we see species resisiting the idea of being assimilated. But any borg-like collectives would always willingly assimilate believing either a) the new species to be better and worth assimilating into. Or B) that they were the better and that the other species would become subserviebt to their own.
Ok, this is now my head canon. Thanks!
You just described the "Cybermen" from Doctor Who. They evolved in every other universe and even on multiple planets in ours because biological intelligent beings tried to add technology to themselves to improve their species. Which is why A.I. and things like the Neuralink are a very bad idea.
I prefer the bootstrap theory. The Borg exist because they exist. They don't have a beginning, not originator or prime mover. The Borg arise because the Borg are discovered. They're discovered because future Borg ended up crashing back in time only to be discovered later and begin assimilating. Though they avoided powerful species at the time due to their low numbers and power.
I like the Star Trek Destiny novels' explanation best thus far
How did they explain their origin?
0:12. Yea.. a concern and threat until Janeway no-scoped them in the delta quadrant and Old man Picard clean-up killed the remainder of the collective..lol😂😂😂
I think sometime not having a origin story is better. Not knowing the origins of Characters like the borg or joker etc makes them more interesting, threatening and exciting. Leaving some things a mystery or unknown is not a bad thing.
Let's just say they are an unknown species that started a long time ago. Far, far away.😊
There is a manga where Kirk's Enterprise fights the Borg when they are just beginning, the way it was laid out gave me the impression that the Queen is a Vidiian.
Oh sweet! I got into one of my favorite TH-camr’s videos! Much love ❤
You're the best!
My favorite explanation has always been the one explained during the "Destiny" series
Paradoxically, with time travel, the borg wanting to destroy us may have inadvertently caused them to go into the past to gain enough strength to defeat humans therefore beginning their origin in the future but also the past because of humans.
Actually the Borg started when the one guy Decker merged with V'ger in Star Trek the Motion Picture. Kirk even said he hoped they gave the new life form a good start. That's why when Spock went on board a cube, they didn't try to assimilate him because he was already part of the collective
The Star Trek Destiny Novels are simply GREAT! I wished, these books would have been adapted as feature films or series. THAT would have been so great!!!! But no... it had to be something else!
What do you mean something else?
@@StillSaber I am not happy with what we got with Star Trek Picard.
@@ralfhtg1056 The Destiny books aren't canon, but it takes place in the time when Picard was still Captain of the Enterprise-E.
@@StillSaber I know. I wish it was Canon.
@@ralfhtg1056 I wish it was to, I enjoyed the books, I always wanted to know how the Collective came to be, a species so powerful and relentless that would send shivers down anyone's spine would require an origin story, not just simple explanation from a Famous El-Aurian that doesn't give you much information, at least in Star Wars the Force was given an explanation of what it is, why not the Borg.
Didn't they not have contact with humans until the 1st encounter (with Q) and First contact film? Didn't Enterprise kind of resolve this a bit? I'm confused?
You're correct, humans aren't responsible for the Borg. Slow news day. Even if the Voyager probe enabled it, a thriving alien civilization created the Borg from its wreckage.
The Episode in Star Trek Enterprise is a sequel to the movie First Contact. In First Contact, a Borg sphere goes back in time to before the first warp flight. Picard's Enterprise follows them back in time and destroys the sphere. Some of the wreckage crashes in the Arctic, where it's found during the time of Archer's Enterprise, and the drones are thawed out and reactivate themselves.
Lore Reloaded has an excellent video on this
I see a lot of comments implicating nanites in Borg origins. Having watched all of TNG thru ENT in order on their original air dates I got the impression they didn’t start out with nanite assimilation technology. I thought the early assimilations were more brutal, akin the cybermen of DW, with nanites being introduced later as a more recently assimilated technology.
One way to reconcile the thousands of centuries, and being small a thousand years ago is if the Borg were nearly destroyed, with the ones we know of being a remnant that's growing.
Great idea 💡👍 Then have Borg with unknown alien origin. Leave a bit of mystery.😅
Here is the theory that I think makes the most sense.
1. The Cylon theory. Sometimes, humanoid species make too many mistakes with nano technology and integrating cybernetics. At some point they decide to link their minds through technology, and in doing so over time, individual voices are drowned out and you get a hive mind. It is an unforeseen deleterious side effect, of linking minds together. And you essentially get Borg like species. They then amalgamate over time, into what we know as the Borg Collective.
And the Borg Queen is merely an emergent property of this system.
what makes them the ultimate antagonist is the fact that they've assimilated countless species and incorporated their knowledge with the central group making them near omniscient! Hard to beat someone who has information that for many is still unheard of!
Borg were my favourite, as a kid my stepdad had a borg cube vhs boxset I always thought was cool. I remember I would watch that a fair few times, but his original series vhs wouldn't even leave the shelf. Far too dated for me even back then
I always assumed the Borg were created by a society that plunged headlong into technologies like Artificial Super Intelligence and Neurolink without considering the risks involved... Like we are doing right now.
I always assumed that the Borg evolved slowly over time. They slowly added cybernetic parts to their bodies over time like we seem to be doing now or, at least, some want to do now.
With time-travel being a regular occurrence, the V'Ger origin story of a machine with the directive to collect information merging with Decker and then travel back in time seems the most Canon-ish. My only issue there is, that that the Borg have, again, forgotten the location of Earth. Although never really stated as such, that episode with Q flinging Enterprise into their way, heavily implies a first contact situation for both parties. Even though, Annika (Seven) and her parents were already part of the Collective at that point.
“Too many cooks spoil the broth” is my opinion. The writers were not fully coordinated in the story writing causing some contradictions. Best leave it as a mystery for now until a real good idea happens.
I think the Borg are like the Cybermen from Dr. Who. They are inevitable in every timeline.
My theory for screen canon: Since the borg can time travel, I suspect the first borg queen assimilated herself.
I got your answer right here. Obviously this is not canon but if I wrote any of this I would make it cannon. You see in my mind Zai Battlestar Galactica and Star Trek are part of the same universe. The board are the evolution of the Cylons.
Well, given there a Temporal Cold War going on in Star Trek, with multiple ongoing timelines existing side by side, many of those origins could have happened, depending on which timeline is being discussed.
Personally, I like the Voyager-Borg origin the most. There is poetry to the tragedy.
Yeah... The Augments moved through Time and Space gradually and unknowingly becoming The Borg
I always thought of the borg as similar to the cybermen from Doctor Who as there is no real origin story to them.
Exactly the true origin story being one of the writers saw a Mondasian Cyberman or one of the subsequent origins and thought that would be a good villain
The Spawn of VGER....
Always liked the V-Ger theory. Also, the Borg refer to Earth as sector 001, which implies they are aware that in some way they originated from Earth.
Well their origin is now an open ended question. They assimilated the ability to manipulate space time from Guinan’s people, who were strong enough to challenge the Q. There could be Borg groups scattered all over space/time, all over the multiverse, in pockets beyond time. They could have been developing for thousands of centuries, tweaking their evolution and events, seeking perfection.
The Borg do not have an official origin and it's better that way. Every origin fans have come up with is terrible and wouldn't work in canon.
This 💯% I leave it as a dark mystery and that they are very expansive, like the Imperium that as they spread multiple portions are lost and become their own collective in a massively broader infinite universe. That there are even more malevolent or even benevolent Borg civilizations outside the known universe.
Yes I agree the mystery of the borgs origin helps keep them interesting.
I always liked the destiny series explanation of humanity accidentally having a hand In causing the borg, thought it went some way to explaining their fascination with humanity
There was another origin story in the book Star Trek The Return, a part of the William shatner series in the 90s. The Borg had a hand in the resurrection of Kirk after generations. The story talks about the Borg homeworld and I think it even touches on another version of V'ger being modified by borg. I know people look poorly on the series Shatners influence on it but I thought it was a pretty good story with borg origin elements.
The Borg could be the future of the Cooperative. There’s your temporal loop paradox. They get arrogant. Start forcing people to join. Somehow end up going back in time.
Man I’d love it if Paramount did a one off series about the Borg origin
Said no one ever
@@bravebeard6225 ok dude.
@@jmg5878 You are just angry because you know I am right
@@bravebeard6225 ok bro. I’m not angry just wondering why you’re being a troll about this.
I really wish we got S5 of enterprise because we would’ve seen a human version of Alice Krige’s Borg queen as a human starfleet officer with a backstory and becoming the Borg queen.
Maybe this is something that can be addressed at some point, maybe if we get the Star Trek Legacy show?
Wasn't it said on Voyager by the Queen that they are an actual race that they assimilate? I've read the Destiny books but don't remember them saying she was human. Could be wrong.
@@Aquilla86 as I said this was something that was going to be addressed in S5 of enterprise, we were going to find out that the Borg Queen was originally a human female and it was the origins of who is this person in starfleet, who was she and how did she become the Borg Queen.
I've always prescribed to the multiple origins theory but with a bit different take. That multiple races developed give minds that at some point joined. So that from the Borg's perspective they have multiple origins. It doesn't matter what they were once called either they are Borg
The Borg are a paperclip maximizer. It was an AI that was programmed with the single directive "Achieve Perfection" and it got waaaaaaaaaaay out of hand.
The borg are not AI, they are primarily organic beings, borg is derived from Cyborg, which are cybernetically enhanced biological organisms.
That's why Microsoft removed Clippy. They knew what was coming. But he's still in the code somewhere...
@@mxviii that's just what they became
@@literalsarcasm1830 yeas they become more machine using technology that they steal from other races as they combine themselves into their hive mind. But they are not AI. They are an organic species.
I would love for a crazy born story. That as the born evolve in the distant future they become the q.
That's why the q we know from next generation always avoid the borg.
If messing around with the borg when they time travel it actually starts them from ever evolving into the q.
The replicators that were made by the ancients in the Pegasus galaxy are the origin of the borg
One of the theories is that the Borg was created by the Voyager probe. The probe was intercepted by an alien species who repaired the heavily damaged probe, re-programmed it with a new objective to find imperfect species and make them perfect. The now intelligent probe then evolved exponentially, and was able to create the borg species…
Interestingly there are many similarities between starfleet and the Borg…with respect to their objectives …both aim to unify the different species spread around the universe. Both are rigid with regard to their rules, the Borg go one step further by being violent, the starfleet on the other hand enforced by way of technical assistance and absolute obedience to their rules
With technology being the way it is with metal replacements for body parts, I'm surprised we're not all part of a Borg society. I, myself have metal plates in my back & a fake knee too! 😊
i think v'ger was one of the 1st borg at least one of th startrek books hints at that spock was almost borgified in it but it stopped mid way so they thought that he alrdy was one after all he mind melded w vger so
Do we need to know the origin of all factions? Can't we have some mystery for once? Leave it to the readers to ponder where they came from!?
So in the video you described the time dilating effect of a blackhole in the opposite way that it would work. You said that they would work for a long time in the Black hole area and that it would only seem like a short period of time in regular space, it would be the exact opposite you would work for a couple of days in the black hole area and it would seem like a long time in regular space.
the star trek destiny borg origin is by far my favorite and i believe the best and most believable of the borg origins.
According to Memory Beta (a FanDom-Wiki) the BORG emerges 4527 BC from the planet Arehaz in the Delta Quadrant; they were created when the surviving crew of the NX-02 Columbia that traveled back in time with the Caeliar, originating from 2168, were absorbed by the last surviving Caeliar, the now-degenerate Sedin. After they come into existence, they target their first victims, the Kindir.
Star Trek Destiny Novels
I always believed the beginnings of the Borg were much simpler and mundane. They started out a normal humanoid species who started with simple augmentations, like replacing a missing limb or organ. Then they figured out how to link to their version of the internet. After that they realized they could talk in a form of telepathy using this technology. After a while this became a collective and the modifications went from as needed or optional to standard operating practice. The people lost the ability to say no because these changes started happening while they were young. Then they started realizing reproduction was becoming a problem due to the extent of the modifications. They found the solution to this problem by bringing the gift of their science to other people whether they wanted it or not. And the Borg were born.
I realize this is very summed up but it covers the main points. It also has a warning. We are already using mechanical prosthetics and organs. We are also working on linking the human brain to computers and the internet. Star Trek has predicted many things. Are we going to become the Borg?
Daniels created them. Lol. Seriously, though, I think it’s entirely possible, and would be a perfect Trek twist, if they were to be explained as being created in the far future and the first Borg somehow travels through time to assimilate the home planet, before moving on to the rest of the galaxy. It would also be a satisfying way to retcon the whole Control plotline from Discovery Season 2 that was resolved but not really in a way that is more satisfying, and could be a great option to explore in Section 31(if it gets more than one movie) or Strange New Worlds or some future show/movie. Best way to approach a Borg origin story is to tie up loose ends while giving it a unique spin. That’s a very Trek thing to do.
I like to think that the Borg started off a bit differently. My own personal head cannon wants to say the Borg started off as an AI created by the Progenitors. They seeded the stars with sapient life based on their own biology. No one really knows what happened to them, so perhaps they were the ones who were destroyed by a virus. The AI was given the task of finding a cure for this disease in which it created the first borg nanites. The nanites were initially made to destroy the virus but was too crude and caused the death of whomever was injected with them.
As the AI tried to come up with a solution it eventually evolved the nanites to control the hosts immune system. The situation for the Progenitors got so dire that their species were at the verge of extinction. As a last ditch effort the AI expanded on control of a host to not only the immune system but the entire host to monitor the biological changes and to prevent death. When the AI perfected the nanites it was too late and nearly all of the Progenitor race was gone, besides a small number of individuals. With the AI essentially left to its own devices it came up with a solution to prevent the destruction of species my assimilating them into a collective to preserve that species qualities and apply that to it's "culture."
The reason why the AI started installing cybernetics in these drones was to try and prevent the inevitable, all biological matter breaks down. It was a method to preserve the biology as log as possible but nothing last forever. The Progenitors apart of the collective all died out sans one individual, one who would be cloned to preserve the last of its creators becoming the first of many queens. Knowing how devastating a disease could be to biological life the AI took it upon its self to incorporate and preserve all sapient life to preserve it through assimilation. An eskewed benevolence of preservation became the borg as we know them. They made it their purpose to spread across the galaxy "saving" every race which was made easier because of all sapient life is based off of Progenitor biology. The borg simply just do as they do without explanation and the races of the galaxy have no idea of the underlining intentions finding the actions of the borg as a threat.
Edit: This is also the reason why species 8472 couldn't be assimilated, due to not being based off of Progenitor biology. I'm sure the borg could eventually assimilate them if they could experiment without getting wrecked.
Another thing I like about the Destiny trilogy is that it explained why the Borg were so interested in the Omega Particle.
It isn't canon but I feel that if the writers thought about it they would do something like this.
The last Borg queen in a reality where the Borg are nearing Extinction attempts a jump to another universe in order to expand, the experiment, powered by Omega particles, has an unexpected result. the Queen is relocated to (insert first world of the Borg), she is sent back to a point in time predating the collective and assimilates the population but due to the limitations of one Borg having to supply all the nanoprobes to assimilate the world and a lack of existing technology and resources she is forced to revert the collective to an older form (its original collective base) just to maintain, this base form over time evolves into the Borg that we know.
They become a self-fulfilling prophecy.
The Borg should be that being that left from the first “Star Trek The Motion Picture” only it went really fast through space and time, hitting, researching, species, races, and evolving, and then coming back through time as the Borg. It ties up everything and makes sense of the first movie.
The game Star Trek Legacy gives my favorite origin
I do like the Vger idea, makes the Motion picture a lot better.
Time runs slower nearer a black hole so research would be slower unless the research station was close to a black hole and the subjects were further away
I created the Borg for I am the Borg. Cease your fantastic hypothesis! We will arrive soon. Resistance is futile.
Given how the Borg look like the Cenobites I suggest they came from the box.
Has no one thought of just asking Q? He’d likely even show you if you asked please.
Heck, there’s your next Picard season…we find out Picard was responsible for, posing as someone called Locutus or something.
I’ve wondered if the Borg actually originated as a future faction of humanity that were capable of time travel and were integrating with technology for greater efficiency. What was that temporal agency called? Remember how they were dressed? It’s conceivable that as time has been altered they became less human as they assimilated more and more before a reset. We know that the Star Trek universe has been altered several times not just because of the JJ Abrams reboot.
Holy Hell, it's Captain Jack maybe I really should start paying attention to what they're saying when they're playing the space engineers game
Picard season 1 strongly implies that the romulans made the borg
YESSS! Such a good story.
At least you listed the true and real V'ger origin.
I always liked the idea that the Borg created V'ger but never liked the idea that Humanity was responsible for the creation of the Borg. It seems like every time somebody wants to add to Star Trek canon, they subtract from the size of the Galaxy. Everything can't be related; that is just being trite.
Thanks to a quote from, Gynan, most all ideas, begin to make twisted sense..as it always looked to much like there couldn't be only one particular origin..but many sources..that came together, and merged.
See, part of me definitely wants to know what the origins of the Borg are…..but the mystery makes them an even worse enemy. It would have to be something mind blowing if it was ever to have been revealed. Sometimes is better not knowing.
I like the Idea of a Star Trek Unimatrix Zero Series...that includes more 7 of 9 storyline...
They should never reveal the Borg's origin. The mystery helps make them interesting. Sadly they probably will one day.
I would so watch an origin story of the Borg as a mini series.
7:38 I think if you check the NX-02 Columbia what is found on a planet in the Gamma quadrant not the Delta quadrant if it had been found in the Delta quadrant it would’ve turned up in Voyager but it didn’t.
Those Destiny books are a great read. It has to be my favourite so far and the Coda series second.
FINALLY, SOMEONE OTHER THAN ME KNOWS THIS ORIGIN FOR THE BORG!!!
I mean yes a bunch of writers got together and said let’s make the Borg
There is a video detailing that the romulans had created them in their early years
We're oversaturated with human centric causes. Personally I prefer the much more novel and interesting idea that the borg origin is indeed alien (not keen on the disease take but do like the multiple alien theory)
the Borg origin is recycled from Perry Rhodan out of the Posbi cycle from 1968 i think :p
I always thought the Borg were decendants of Khan and the Augments who advanced through some wierd Star Trek Temporal time travel mess
The Borg are a truly terrifying, implacable villain...until Voyager turned them into another whipping post.
Everybody knows “The Borg” came from Sweden, you know, that pesky Country located in “The Mirror Universe”
I am kind of disappointed that sofar Noone here in the comments or in the video have talked about that one TOS episode where Spock and several other members of The Enterprise are attacked by these creatures, and Spock mentions that while he was connected with them he was able to hear their voices
Who else prefers the LTC?
This better be good.
I think canonically, the Borg should have found a way to engineer redundant origins so that time traveling groups would be unable to wipe them out.
Time sprawling. I bet cockroaches have already achieved this, which may explain how difficult it is to get rid of them.
The Borigin if you well
The Borg are Pakleds that got time travel technology