P2 2007 "Prince of Wales" being moved to its new home in Darlington 25/5/23

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  • @sirbarongaming2138
    @sirbarongaming2138 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    The fact that a LNER P2 is being reborn in the modern era gives me hope for steam, that and it's one of my favorites from the U.K.

    • @mikesanders5433
      @mikesanders5433 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      There’s around a dozen new builds well on the way to completion here in the U.K. and another dozen just starting out ☺️

    • @TallboyDave
      @TallboyDave 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@mikesanders5433 There's a replica LNWR 'Bloomer' that's been about 90% complete since the 1990's floating around, that no one seems to know what to do with, or has the desire or means to complete it.

    • @halilmehmeti7887
      @halilmehmeti7887 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@mikesanders5433 qq❤😅😂😮😮😂😮😂😂😅

    • @tsuaririndoku
      @tsuaririndoku 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Cant wait for T1 Duplex

    • @levidarling5107
      @levidarling5107 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You said it bud!

  • @brianwillson9567
    @brianwillson9567 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    That rig carrying the loco is almost as impressive as the loco itself, and the driver sure knows what he is doing.

  • @thebrummierailenthusiasts5329
    @thebrummierailenthusiasts5329 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I like the way this engine introduces himself after coming out of the shed

  • @levidarling5107
    @levidarling5107 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The fact that this thing is coming closer and closer to completion is becoming more and more awesome the more it is talked about by us and worked on by the crew who are making this a reality.

  • @tonywise198
    @tonywise198 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    The really impressive aspect of this is Reid's Freight driver and crew.

  • @colonelsection5821
    @colonelsection5821 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    We'll be seeing you in the not to distant future "Prince Of Wales"
    Cant wait for the new LNER P2, I bet Sir Nigel Greasly will be so proud of his work being reborn.

  • @tonybarfield5148
    @tonybarfield5148 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Thank you taking the time out to film this important event. i note the footbridge has still to be built from North Road Station to the new Darlington Locomotive Works. Very interesting video

    • @thep2steamlocomotivecompan19
      @thep2steamlocomotivecompan19 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The bridge will be completed within a year, subject to a NR track possession.

  • @louisthetravelspotter
    @louisthetravelspotter 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    its great seeing the p2 it be amazing when its done

  • @mikesanders5433
    @mikesanders5433 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great footage, thank you 😊

  • @spankflaps1365
    @spankflaps1365 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    Spare a thought for Charlie Windsor, who now doesn’t have the best loco in the world named after him.

    • @brianwillson9567
      @brianwillson9567 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      A golden opportunity for a new build of a certain of mr collett’s design, updated to 2020’s technology?

    • @trainskitsetc
      @trainskitsetc 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      ​@@brianwillson9567 how about a new build barclay 0-4-0st, this would result in a small loco with a comedic length of name plate if we use his full titles, this would also be befitting because they're common as muck so it would be really nothing special other than the name and titles it carries, this would be reflective of the position he finds himself in.
      Also it's a very fitting cheap snd chearful loco to build in these hard economic times.

    • @therailtourer
      @therailtourer 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I was told by her builders that 2007 isn’t named after our new King. She is named after the title not the person who holds the title (if you know what I mean)

    • @Braveplantt
      @Braveplantt 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I thought there is one that is diesel

    • @keisha989
      @keisha989 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@brianwillson9567 I would go for that

  • @oldfarthacks
    @oldfarthacks 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thanks for the video, it's very interesting and informative.
    It is instructive to see one of these engines without the firebox/boiler installed. Also no steam valve chests.
    The fun thing for us here in the US is the difference between the size and layouts of towns. Even our small towns here have much wider roads. But then, we do tend to much bigger vehicles. Why to move that there engine around in these parts we would just pop it into the back of one of our pickup trucks. 😁
    That moving rig is quite interesting, there are only two axles that don't steer. Was it custom built for this project? There is after all not a lot of commercial work moving steam engines around.

    • @kristoffermangila
      @kristoffermangila 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      About the trailer that carrids the Prince of Wales: its not a custom trailer, its a standard steerable lowboy trailer used for oversized loads used in Europe.

  • @Stubwood_on_YT
    @Stubwood_on_YT 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It's like they're moving an incomplete jigsaw puzzle, like you can just image the final product, with the boiler, cylinders and all

  • @MickCampin-jp9kb
    @MickCampin-jp9kb 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I just wish she was streamlined like the A4s, and her predecessors like my Hornby Railways model but still a fantastic job. Well done to all the builders.

  • @spirit1369
    @spirit1369 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I hope it gets to its new home safely.

  • @nigelmitchell351
    @nigelmitchell351 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    IMPO, despite being a royalist, the name doesn't fit, id rather they called it after any of the original names...
    But, Wolf of Badenoch, would be my favourite !

    • @siriusmicromaniac
      @siriusmicromaniac 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I don't really think any new-build should take the name of a lost original class member, but I agree it would have been better to follow the pre-existing P2 naming tradition using nicknames of notable Scottish political figures. I had in mind 'The Young Pretender' which would have been a quirky nod to the fact that the loco won't really be as old as it seems. As to ever rebuilding it in A4 outline, nu-uh, the original P2 outline is the best and only acceptable outline for a P2. Otherwise it would just look like an overly bewheeled A4.

  • @chrisdavies3913
    @chrisdavies3913 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    This is going to be a beast when it's finished. Will it be too big/ heavy for most heritage lines?

    • @glennwoods2462
      @glennwoods2462 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Yes, it will.
      It's going to run on British Rail Mainlines...
      There's a couple of videos I saw that mentioned this.
      Lawrie's Mechanical Marvel's I think was one of the channels...

    • @CustomiZe_
      @CustomiZe_ 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      I thought they said it'll be able to do the same routes as Tornado so i thought it could do heritage lines but maybe they meant in terms of loading gauge and size rather than weight. 🤗

    • @mikesanders5433
      @mikesanders5433 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      It’ll be able to do the same heritage lines that Tornado can, but mainly she will be out on the road earning her keep 🙂

    • @EllieMaes-Grandad
      @EllieMaes-Grandad 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It will be about wheelbase and track standards . . .

    • @thep2steamlocomotivecompan19
      @thep2steamlocomotivecompan19 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      RA9 route availability, so it can go anywhere Tornado can.

  • @fredtedstedman
    @fredtedstedman 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    .............that was some diet .................! Amazing job to capture the whole journey .

  • @wilsonlaidlaw
    @wilsonlaidlaw 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "Can you shift your van to make the junction a bit easier?" "Sorry mate no can do - unloading".

  • @CrystalClearWith8BE
    @CrystalClearWith8BE 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This LNER P2 is still under construction. All it needs is its boiler, pistons and piston rods. What else? Don't forget the coal tender.

  • @spe-notapopularytbersus1237
    @spe-notapopularytbersus1237 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the camera quality gives me early 2000s vibes

  • @mikeking2539
    @mikeking2539 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The keep left arrows on the traffic island ought to have been removed. And daft people squeezing past the cab on the other side of the road 😮

  • @reidthenavyengineproductio7002
    @reidthenavyengineproductio7002 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Like it in Red. Still it looks amazing. It’s going as good as are T1 5550

  • @intercity-mq6qv
    @intercity-mq6qv 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    at 8:50 behind the p2 is a ruston of some description, eyther a 48ds or 88ds

    • @WAVERLEYJOHN
      @WAVERLEYJOHN  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It is on my video "CORRECTION" this is Tornados boiler not Prince of Wales moving to new home in Darlington 24/6/23 at 10-05

  • @thedukeofbork3147
    @thedukeofbork3147 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just curious, what would stop her running away down the ramp if the winch cable failed while loading?

    • @WAVERLEYJOHN
      @WAVERLEYJOHN  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Look closley and you can see men with wooden curved blocks following behind the wheels

    • @thedukeofbork3147
      @thedukeofbork3147 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@WAVERLEYJOHN I could see the guys with the blocks but they didn't seem to be following the wheels closely enough to be able to react in time?

  • @daystatesniper01
    @daystatesniper01 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Good video a pity it is taking so long to build the boiler ,surely a company here in the UK could have built it esp' with all the modern tech' at their disposal

    • @trainskitsetc
      @trainskitsetc 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Could have, but then wouldn't have had the supplier network behind them already, nor a workshop set up for the task. The people making it now have the staff used to the job, the workshop ready equiped for the specific tasks involved and relationships in place with the suppliers needed. All that costs money to put in place and probably involves some dreaded consultants coming in to ramp the price up ever higher. It's also no small point that you don't need a boiler until you have a cylinders to put the steam into. Having it too soon means it just takes up space waiting for the rest of it to be done which involves added costs of moving it every time it's in the way or a site move takes place, cranes aren't cheap.
      So nice as it would be to see it made in the UK it's less than ideal in reality.

    • @mikesanders5433
      @mikesanders5433 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      It would have taken much longer in the U.K. given that those who have the capability to build just one boiler already have huge backlogs of work let alone build two boilers required.
      Plus with Meiningen, the trust already has a great working relationship with them and the works has the capability to be working on the two new boilers to simultaneously (staggered initially though as tornados original boiler was overhauled at the same time as the P2 boiler is being built).

  • @poowg2657
    @poowg2657 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    In America that would be termed a "cute little Mike". Britain has always sufferred from too restrictive a loading guage resulting in locomotives with too much power and too little weight leading to a poor adhesion factor and slipping. As an enthusiast of steam power in all of its' forms I wish this project the best of luck and a great outcome. Look forward to seeing it run.

    • @nigelmitchell351
      @nigelmitchell351 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      That buddy is because, as usual, we did it first ! 😘✌️
      And I'm a big N&W fan !

    • @tacfoley4443
      @tacfoley4443 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      British railways had a loading gauge before you had ever had length of railroad track on the ground.

    • @nigelmitchell351
      @nigelmitchell351 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@tacfoley4443 🤣👍

    • @keithmoore5224
      @keithmoore5224 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It goes back to pre steam horse drawn coal wagons steam was built to pull coal wagons before people

    • @briankay4713
      @briankay4713 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Ah yes built to a loading gauge but look at the style ❤❤❤
      Although have to admit an affection to a NYC Hudson

  • @hugothomas1199
    @hugothomas1199 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Let’s GOOOOO

  • @Maximianoalvarez3
    @Maximianoalvarez3 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Buetyfull so buetyfull from max

  • @Freshly-Boiled-Bollock
    @Freshly-Boiled-Bollock 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hopefully won’t be long now!

  • @chrisst8922
    @chrisst8922 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Isn't there a big bit in the middle missing?

    • @NYCS19339
      @NYCS19339 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I think that's where the diesel engine and generator go.

    • @WinterroSP
      @WinterroSP 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@NYCS19339 the boiler is a separate piece that has to be specially made (200 or more PSI) the smokebox is not part of the boiler, but an extension for the exhaust

    • @WinterroSP
      @WinterroSP 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is a steam replica like A1 tornado, not diesel

    • @enginecrzy
      @enginecrzy 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@NYCS19339 😆😆😆

    • @NYCS19339
      @NYCS19339 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I thought the British understood dry humor... yes, I understand the project. Sorry for the confusion. Poor attempt at a funny comment on my part.

  • @YsanneOshea
    @YsanneOshea 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    High time this wonderful locomotive was given a different name. The billionaire crowned King of a statistically disunited kingdom does not deserve such an accolade as this brilliantly engineered locomotive will provide.

    • @charliegould5865
      @charliegould5865 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He’s no longer the Prince of Wales, that title has been passed on to his son william.

    • @maestromecanico597
      @maestromecanico597 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Off with his head.

    • @1chish
      @1chish 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      There is always ONE who seeks to make some virtue signalled, inane and incorrect point. 😏
      So what if Charles was a billionaire (which he isn't) he has done some amazing work for young disadvantage people for decades with the Princes Trust much of it funded by himself.
      The UK is not 'disunited' despite the best efforts of the SNP. As the King's Coronation proved.
      The locomotive is actually named after a warship not the personage.
      At least do your homework.

    • @maestromecanico597
      @maestromecanico597 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Now if a group were to organize to construct a 31st King class 4-6-0 “Charles III…”

  • @geraiswaiya2347
    @geraiswaiya2347 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Well - if they have done this, let's see an APT replica next!

  • @scottw550
    @scottw550 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It looks finished from the front, so, just do the other three sides and Bob's your uncle.

  • @michaelbolt4530
    @michaelbolt4530 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Daft question where is it moving from?

    • @on4xb
      @on4xb 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      From the (old) Darlington Locomotive works to the (new) Darlington Locomotive Works (on the opposite side of the railway.

  • @austin12ascot
    @austin12ascot 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Where is it now?

  • @enginecrzy
    @enginecrzy 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Its the lightweight model...

  • @philiphowell1505
    @philiphowell1505 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Whose going to build the boiler and firebox?

    • @mattlander9119
      @mattlander9119 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The same people who built the boiler for Tornado

    • @philiphowell1505
      @philiphowell1505 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mattlander9119 I think that was J.B Meiningham in Germany, they built a spare too for Tornado along with another boiler for a preserved loco.

  • @stephensmith799
    @stephensmith799 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amazing project, though given the power of the locomotive, the name is a bit feeble.
    I know the competition has been closed but my nominations would have been ‘Thunderer’ ‘Furious’ ‘Riveter’ or perhaps, ‘Sun Chariot II’.
    If our constitutional monarchy is working properly, it really isn’t a source of ‘power’ 🤔

  • @malifebliketokyo9653
    @malifebliketokyo9653 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is this what james may having a baby would looklike?

  • @brianwillson9567
    @brianwillson9567 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    That loco is going to be impressive when it’s finished. Thinking forward are there any plans to rebuild it after a few years into a rather ugly Pacific?

    • @TheSudrianTerrier653
      @TheSudrianTerrier653 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Oh god I really hope not, but it’s extremely unlikely

    • @therailtourer
      @therailtourer 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      They did an April Fools joke about that. No, 2007 is going to remain as she is

    • @TheSudrianTerrier653
      @TheSudrianTerrier653 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@therailtourer thank god, also nice how they gave her the nameplates when moving.

    • @YoLo-bb2vc
      @YoLo-bb2vc 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      if they do the thompson stupidity move then i hope the spirit of Sir Nigel Gresley haunts them till they correct the mistake.

    • @brianwillson9567
      @brianwillson9567 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @Yo Lo totally agree. If mr Thompson was only responsible for the B1 he would be remembered kindly. If he had IMPROVED the Gresleys he would be remembered kindly. At least mr peppercorn produced a decent A1.

  • @YoLo-bb2vc
    @YoLo-bb2vc 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    6:38 and the body of what will be the scariest thing any electric and diesel train has ever seen is loaded onto the truck bound for the brithplace of many a famous engine!
    i wonder how beefy the chuffs will be when she is working....... my hope is that it will be a sound to remember full of grunt and POWAAAR!.
    (Sorry for the clarkson bit at the end)
    the only gripe i have is they named it "Prince of Wales" and not "Sir Nigel Gresley" after the man who came up such a monumental beast.

    • @mattlander9119
      @mattlander9119 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Would be confusion with 60007 if it had the same name

    • @YoLo-bb2vc
      @YoLo-bb2vc 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mattlander9119 oh i forgot about her XD damn A4 had to go steal a name perfectly deserving of a P2

  • @elliotgane8088
    @elliotgane8088 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What a fantastic steam locomotive without a boli atm plus it will be nice to see it soon

  • @Drif19
    @Drif19 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nah man, they are kidnapping bro 💀💀💀💀

  • @davidamer1988
    @davidamer1988 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Does anybody else agree that it's a very underwhelming name for such a mighty looking machine in my opinion.

    • @1chish
      @1chish 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Nope. HMS Prince of Wales was a mighty battleship in WWII (as the Bismarck would testify) and was sunk in the Pacific. The name is now carried by a 5th Gen aircraft carrier.
      If you are underwhelmed by that then there is no hope for you.

    • @siriusmicromaniac
      @siriusmicromaniac 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Something like 'Volcano' or 'Thunderchild' perhaps? I see where you are coming from. 'P.rince Of Wales' is just following the A1SLT policy of associating with the UK armed forces, 'Tornado' was named after a Royal Air Force warplane and I understand 'Prince Of Wales' to have been a recurring name through generations of warships of the Royal Navy.

  • @fritz46
    @fritz46 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If only someone invented some kind of metal rail road to move these big and heavy vehicles...
    Just kidding. Great job!

  • @paullubliner6221
    @paullubliner6221 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Alright, I can understand 5" gauge, maybe 7-1/4" and perhaps even 10-1/4" . But really, what's next, ten foot gauge?
    ---Really this absurd live steam hobby nonsense has got to stop!

  • @mint6038
    @mint6038 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There’s no twenty fifth month only 12

    • @knottyal2428
      @knottyal2428 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Correct. That's how the rest of the world writes the date. 25th of May, 2023. That's the 5th month!

    • @EllieMaes-Grandad
      @EllieMaes-Grandad 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      . . . . and people wonder why the USA is screwed up!

  • @WinterroSP
    @WinterroSP 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    For the people who do not know, when it’s finally finished it will be too fat for heritage lines, so it will install modern stuff to be able to go main line
    Edit:
    Do not worry, it will still run on steam

    • @chapelhousemodelrailway1700
      @chapelhousemodelrailway1700 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Can I correct you on the heritage lines availability. As one of the founder members of the P2 project, I know that it will be able to run on many heritage lines.

    • @bentullett6068
      @bentullett6068 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It will be fine. The Severn Valley Railway have just had a HST at a gala with mk3's. A train that really wasn't designed for a GWR branchline.

    • @mikesanders5433
      @mikesanders5433 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      2007 is built within the current loading gauge and she will have the same route availability for heritage lines as Tornado does.

    • @EllieMaes-Grandad
      @EllieMaes-Grandad 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@chapelhousemodelrailway1700 Its wheelbase is long . . .

    • @thep2steamlocomotivecompan19
      @thep2steamlocomotivecompan19 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      No. 2007 is actually considerably narrower and shorter than some preserved locomotives (GWR Kings, Halls, etc.) and has RA9 route availability so will be able to go wherever Tornado has been already.