How To Solve Tractor Loader Hydraulic Issues
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.ค. 2024
- Loader hydraulic issues solved by Ken from Bolt on Hooks and TTWT!
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That was it! Our bucket wouldn't work properly so we cleaned the connectors, and reattached and now we are in business. Thank you!
Tim and Ken I really appreciate you taking the time to make this video. Recently I experienced what seemed like a major leak on one of my tractors. Your advice not to panic and a little leak seems like a lot was spot on. After checking my connections, I found that an O-ring and connector was bad. Your video helped me diagnose the problem and get up and running again. Never knew John Deere made a red dye for the hydraulic fluid. It definitely makes checking the sight glass for fluid easy and confirms that the leak has been repaired. Thanks again and keep up the great videos!
Great series with Ken. Have him on again. I learned a lot.
Great, great video! Thanks so very much for your very informative video on hydraulic problems! You addressed exactly the problem I was having with my front loader. I followed Ken’s clear instructions and used wd40 to clean my hydraulic connectors before and after disconnecting them.From now on that will be my primary use for WD40. After cleaning and reattaching the connectors my bucket performed flawlessly! I greatly appreciate what you guys do and the ways in which you gently show where your true priorities are!
Love this series... Thanks to you and Ken for putting it on!
Tim Ken this something non farmers don't know we thank you we put this video in the library
God Bless All
PaK
Tim and Ken, thanks a ton for providing great information.
Tim and Ken thanks for some great tips. Personal experience, the hydraulic pressure relief tool is a super solution for pressure relief. And, I thought I was the only one who can hardly tell the hydraulic level on the dipstick….the dye is a clever solution. Thanks again for sharing your knowledge and experience. Blessings.
A very relaxed and informative program. Your guest knew how to keep it simple.
Thanks
Bob
Great video. One thing I didn’t hear mentioned in the discussion of O-rings is how heat builds up during use, especially around couplings and fittings, which will deteriorate the rings over time. Heat does as much damage as re-coupling.
Several very good tips along with the discussion.
Learned something from the video about using WD-40. Thank you. Seeing fluid level on the dip stick was mentioned, something I learned a long time ago was to take a 3 cornered file and put a small notch in the side of the dip stick at the full level and anywhere else, such as 1/2 or 1/4 or so, makes it a lot easier to tell where the level is.
Thanks for the info about the Waite tool. I haven't heard of that before and will check it out.
I would have never thought about that wonderful information thanks.
Great Review!....the "Tim & Ken Show" never disappoints!
Thank You
Always a great informative video when you and Ken get together. Love his bolt on hooks. Thanks.
Tim and Ken, thanks a bunch. Much answered questions. Thanks again!
Very informative especially for a first time tractor 🚜 owner. Thank you.
Great info!!!!
Ohhh my goodness! I have a Kubota MX5000 and one of my hydraulic connections was loose and leaking, so I tightened it. Instantly it fixed the leak, but then my bucket wouldn't curl, but would go up and down. I thought something broke inside of my control box. I was so frustrated thinking that maybe the pressure broke something in the controller. Watch your video and you said 90% of the time the snap connection is loose and not connected. I kid you not, THAT WAS THE PROBLEM! I must have knocked it loose when I was tightening the hose connection with my wrench. I didn't notice that it was snapped off. Thanks Tim and Ken!
Really great content, as always. Thanks Tim
My goodness what great timing. I had the exact scenario 2 days ago with my grapple. I ended up having to loosen the line and it dumped a tablespoon of oil to relieve pressure. When I parked it it was about 50°, and 90° when I was trying to hook it up.
This was a fantastic and informative video, thank you.
WOW!... GREAT video guys!...It answered so many of my questions and connected the "dots" of information I've read & seen on the web over the past 5 years. This video is getting bookmarked! The info on all the important specs for the O ring was so helpful Maybe you could talk about backhoe storage & the leak down of the stabilizer legs while storedThanks!
Thanks Tim for the advise! My loader would only go up half way so I came in and TH-camd you and found the problem was a loose line at the coupler. You did it again. Thanks a lot.
Glad it helped
Great video! I just ordered the dye, orange of course for my Kubota, and 100 Buna-N 70-a o-rings from Amazon. $15 for everything! Thank you!
Hey, that's great stuff guys! Thanks for sharing!
You guys were spot on about the loader valve connections! Thanks so much!! Problem fixed without hauling it to the dealer for
A fix! Save me several hundred there!
Looking fo that waite tool now for 1/2" coupling on my JD! Seems to be out of stock!
Very informative video. Thank you Tim and Ken. You guys are great together. The whole series with Ken and hydraulic has been great.
More to come :-)
Great series Tim. I learned a lot!
Super Excellent !Many THANKS!
Very well done video with a lot of good information
Thanks Tim, Truly appreciate this video. Resolved my problem.
Very informative discussion thank you
You just had to show me crashing into the grapple with Vinnie!! LOL!
You threw up your hands like a rodeo cowboy who just tied a steer. "Done!!" haha, Thanks for your the great tips Ken.
@@HuserHelpers I was thinking more like "unsafe at any speed" LOL...It definitely takes some getting used too!
Those Ventrac articulated tractors do take some getting used to. Plus you had a pretty wide front mower deck there.
@@frankponte4031 It was an 8' mower.
Great Video! Great information!
The verse at the end gave me a chuckle 🤭…love them👍
Master Tim, you know this already I am sure but for others out there some third function valves allow you to manually relieve pressure at the valve without having to power the valve up and do so with the switch. I do this all the time with my W.R. Long third function valve. There are two indents at the top and bottom of the valve where you push them in with a screwdriver to relieve pressure. 🙂
Excellent discussion of the hydraulics for a tractor. Tractor Universe should be an excellent source of information.
Great information thank you for sharing do appreciate
Wonderful video. Great job Tim!
This was an awesome video thanks Larry
👍 Good Information. Thank you.
They are hydraulics, they have to leak to work properly! Although very very minimal leakage. Every time a cylinder runs in or out there are minute quantities of oils on the cylinder rods. Our job as owners is to keep the oil loss to an minimal acceptable level. Besides small amounts of oil works great as a rust preventative! Great content Tim!
Great info. This one will be one of those saved for reference videos.
Yep done that, couplers can be a problem even on a Kioti!
And my John Deere.
Another way is to take your time and make sure no pressure is on your attachment by level and then before you disconnecting it
Shut the tractor off, move your controls around with the engine off and key on to relief pressure in your 3 rd.function.
Great job Tim and Ken.
Cheers from ID.
Well, pressure can develop because of temperature changes even when disconnected
Lots of great info 👍
Thanks gents for sharing the knowledge about the hydrologic connections. Very informative. I just signed up for Tractor Universe. I can't wait to see what this new addition offers.
It will only be as good as you make it! Add your questions to the forum section!
Tim, appreciate you and Ken for putting this series of hydraulics together.
Thank You for another great video, Tim! I have been dealing with a chronic issue ever since the first time that I removed and then re-installed the FEL on my 2008 John Deere 2305 TLB. From what i saw in this video, I suspect that I need to clean the female quick-disconnects on the tractor with WD-40. Hopefully that will alleviate the issue... God Bless You and your family!
Super video! Very helpful. Thanks much.
I really do believe you are a very unique family God bless you I really do believe you are a very unique family God bless you and your family have a good summer Thank you again from the south eastern Minnesota
Thanks very much! answered my question at the beginning 👍👍
Happy to help!
This video saved me a bunch of money. Thank you!
Glad we could help. Subscribe to our channel :-)
Great video
I appreciate the video. The first 1 minute gave the solution to my problem.
Good video
You guys Rock! John Deere 2720 loader would only lift half way. ThIs just occurred during a heavy brushing session. Cleaned loader quick connects thoroughly and BINGO! Cheers and Thank You!
Best Regards
Glad it worked for you!
I had a stick pop up and remove a coupler on the loader. I could not lower the loader and my super human strength failed me and I could not get the coupler on 🥺. I put a log under the bucket tipped down until I could relieve the pressure on the loader arm. Only then could I connect the coupler 😊
I had this pressure problem with my grapple. Once I figured out what was going on, I was able to loosen one of the hose connections on the grapple with a wrench to relieve the pressure.
I never take my loader off and the grapple is the first implement I have that has hydraulics... That little pressure relief tool would have been handy!
You solved my hydraulic problem in the first 5 minutes of the video. Thank you!!
Glad we could help.
I just had to replace one of the male couplers last week @ 125 hrs. I was able to find a set of 4 from your friends at Summit Hydraulics for just under $30: John Deere AW32184 Replacement Male Hydraulic Quick Coupler Plug (SKU#AW32184). Threaded on like the OEM.
Nice video. Thanks. I have the Waite tool. Works great, stays with the 1025r in a ziploc bag with a rag.
Bill
Story time...check your o rings, the struggle is real! I just recently did the 200 hour hydraulic service on my 2018 1025R, and I didn’t check the o ring on the aluminum “fitting” that holds the mesh filter with the magnet inside the reservoir. The outer o ring that seals between the fitting and the reservoir orifice was compressed (but not visibly damaged...I checked after the fact😕) so it hemorrhaged oil about 15 minutes after I thought I was done. I had to buy a new oil drain container as to not contaminate the $120 worth of hygard low viscosity hydraulic oil (stuff’s expensive here in Canada)...all because I didn’t replace a 40 cent o ring!
Thank you Tim. I fix my tractor thank you very much. That was a problem. A loose hydraulihose. By the way enjoy your videos great job keep up the good work
I've been using starting fluid to clean the hyd fittings as we did years ago on the farm. I'm sure the ole WD works just as well.
I’m with you Randal. Starting fluid is a great cleaner/degreaser for such applications.
Very very helpful! I just experienced a malfunction with my bucket not curling all the way. I'm going to go back out and check my connections.
Tim! It was just what you guys said. I was dragging my field, and a few branches we're getting beneath the tractor, and uncoupled one my lines. I cleaned the area of mud and debris, and disconnected all four couplings to see which one was loose. When I got to the last one, it just fell off from being disconnected already. I cleaned all of them with Wd40, and coupled them back, and wallah! 🕺🏽
But on another note, I was disappointed with my John Deere service department: when I called and explained the problem, the mechanic said he never heard of such a problem, and I should bring it in. Thanks to you and your friend, I was able to remedy the problem myself, and very quickly. Thank a million!
Good morning.
45 years ago, the Air Force drill into us the dangers of hydraulic fluid pressures. I have always wore gloves when dealing with hydraulic hoses and fittings after seeing the films back then.
Great video! I learned that a tool can be purchased to relieve the pressure in attachment's side of hydraulic lines. I've got flat face couplers on my Kubota. What's the best way to determine the correct size flat face coupler so I can purchase the right tool from Ken? Thanks you you both, Tim and Ken!
I use brake cleaner to clean the hydraulic coupler, then followup with silicon spray
Thank you so much foe this video! My dad had been working on the hydraulic fluid for hours, I watched this and in 5 minutes we found a coupling out of place. Ha!
The John Deere hydraulic oil dye is P/N MT3668, and cost me $11.17 as a non-stocked part at my local dealership.
Note: The first time you buy this, and open the small glass jar with the Teflon tape around the threads and look down in it, you are going to think that you have been sent a faulty jar of this dye, maybe it evaporated, or have been ripped off. When in fact, that is not the case. The dye only fills up the jar about one eighth of its depth, maybe one quarter of its depth. I think that they put it a jar that is too big, so that you can pour in a little hydraulic oil and mix it up to get the most dye out and into the oil reservoir.
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Hi Tim and Kenny,
Good to see you both and giving some good tips on how to solve some of the hydraulic issues that come up from time to time.
Kenny, what did you thing about the Ventrac? LOL.
It was Tim's fault! LOL
i use a die in my hydraulics on my crane helps to find oil leaks on the cylinders when the seals are wearing out
I have found, as long as it is dry out, that opening the 4 in one or grapple and letting it hang open before disconnecting will draw air in when gravity coses the bucket. This keeps the pressure from building back up. Disadvantage is vacuum is retained if weather seals are good. My weather seals are weeping oil, so no vacuum after a few minutes.
When I lower my loader it sounds like there is a restriction some where. Different sound.
I agree with the WD40 comment.
I bought Ken's Waite tool and pressure gage.
The leaking when connecting/disconnecting the couplers, I just consider them "self lubricating".
Is there a diagnosis for chatter in the loader operation ? Thanks !
Turn right Kenny 😂🤣
AG couplers are designed to leak oil when coupling or de coupling as a cleaning feature. The idea is to flush the dust and dirt from the couplers and prevent damage.
Something you should discuss and demonstrate is the fact the oil in the hoses and cylinders does not circulate through the system. The cylinders are basically a dead end street for the fluid and the hoses should be disconnected at the cylinders and flushed when changing your hydraulic fluid. For front end loaders, a typical complaint is "floppy bucket" which is caused by air accumulating in the hose or cylinder. Again, the hose should be disconnected and flushed to remove the air. It is that air that causes the increase in pressure in the line which makes the coupler impossible to re connect. Last, a pair of 8" adjustable wrenches kept on the tractor is the safest way to relieve the pressure in the hoses when the couplers won't re connect. They fit all sizes and are a fraction of the price of the Waite tool.
Hey Tim and Christy, did you see you got a thank you article in the latest issue of "The Seeing Eye Guide" magazine. How awesome that the TTWT community donated over $5,000, including your generous match.
Yes! Very generous viewers! Very nice article from the Seeing Eye!
Hey Tim great Vid.. Long Time subscriber I have an Announcement.. I just had my 2021 1025R Delivered .. woot!
Outback wrap would help
A bfh is a good last resort tool
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Great info, Tim and Ken. I was pronouncing "Waite" wrong :)
Ha! Or maybe WE are!!??
You just had to show me crashing! LOL!
It was a priceless moment.😁
🤣😆🤣😆🤣😆
BOOM
You help him with the video Ken and he does you wrong like that, LOL!
That was awesome! Poor Ken! Watch out Master Tim when you go to visit Ken next time (payback time)! 🤣
You both are great and thank you for doing these collaborations, very helpful! 🙂
great content!! Wondering, can you explain how to bleed a hydraulic system? also any input on running larger I.D hoses for faster controls? I have a old hydrostatic JD400 and having issues with the system filling with air and bleeding it out
Should not need to bleed hydraulic system.
I wonder if you need more oil in reservoir?
Larger hoses will not make lift faster.
@@TractorTimewithTim I have a old 1975 JohnDeere400 hydrostatic. Learning a lot but this system is all new to me. Fluid always seems to over flow from the breather and I know when I drop the fluid to change it, it’s all airy and full of bubbles.
Still need to pressure test the system and can only think it must have a leak in the system and pulling air in not sure how it’s pushing fluid from the breather though.
There is a problem. Unfortunately, I am not experienced enough to diagnose. Sorry!
@@TractorTimewithTim not a problem at all. You did help with making sure to set attachments down and 3pt down before checking the levels. I will do that. Like I said grateful for your content and will continue to follow
I have a issue with my tractors front loaders bucket. When I go to curl it it doesn’t really want to but when I do the curl up function it corks properly and I don’t know if it’s the loader control or the hydraulic system. Do you have any idea what it could be?
Great Vid Tim and Ken, Having recently installed a FEL after market on my tractor. I found that when lifting a substantial load which the FEL has no problem lifting, the steering (power) seems to lock up.
My question, the reason I found this vid is that, is there a separate pump to feed the steering cylinder or is this fed from the main hydraulic system and, uses some way the steering wheel linkage to control that steering cylinder?
The fact that I can lift the load indicates to me that the system pressure may be ok but, I am having a flow issue . Your thoughts are appreciated. I have a CT235 Bobcat with a factory installed joystick/valve.
Loader and tractor work fine when lifting lighter loads. Just not quite sure how the steering function works
Curious to know if any buddy in this community has run into a similar situation. Thanks in advance
Some small machines share a pump. Check the specs of your tractor.
I just went to Ken's site and he no longer deals with the 'Waite' tools to decompress hydraulic lines. Would love to see another video of some existing and available tools to decompress lines that have built up pressure.?. Thanks, Tim!
Sorry. He could not get supply from them.
Only have 15 hours on my 1025R. I viewed this video when it first came out. Today I was having problem with my bucket only raising half way and thought I broke something. Checked the couplers and sure enough one had slipped out, but still sitting in the connector. Saved me a lot of time looking for a solution. Thank you for your videos.
I feel like I'm loader isn't lifting up good with weigh I installed a third function diverter on my JD 1025r any suggestions
I assume you mean that it has reduced lift capacity? If so, get a pressure gauge from boltonhooks.com to check the hydraulic pressure.
I have a 2009 5105 compact tractor that my front loader will not raise bucket, and the lever shows signs of hydraulic leak. Do I need to replace the levers for th bucket lift
Tim, on my Kubota it happens every time i put my hydraulic snow plow on. I just crack a connection on the hose line on loader arm. Drips three drops & bingo on.
You should get the Waite tool.
Any thoughts on a video showing how to add shims to the hydraulic system to increase pressure? I know I would like a walk though as mine is lower than factory spec and it struggles to lift implements in the three point.
Deere doesn’t use ‘shims’. Tech support manual shows how to adjust.
We are a bit reluctant to show this for a variety of reasons.
It’s on an x758. And I understand why you wouldn’t want the liability. Doesn’t take much to take one of these systems past the point of no return.
Ok, in that case, I think you DO have shims.
Hello tim show a video about backhoe hydraulic lines for the controls 👌 mine are backwards
I responded to your comment yesterday. How are they ‘backwards’? There are two standards.
@@TractorTimewithTim the up and down are on left stick and the pull in is on right hand .. I'm used to cat where the up and down is usually on right hand ect