Replacing a Hydraulic Loader Valve
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- We finally finish the Oliver OC46 project by installing a new hydraulic valve. I'll walk you through selecting and replacing the valve. We used a PRINCE RD522GCGA5A4B1.
0:00 Intro moving machine
3:06 Cleaning carburetor
10:50 Talking about valves
20:39 Installing new valve
29:57 Testing
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I'm really happy that you're one of the TH-camrs that don't burden us with crappy montages full of terrible music in the interest of theatrics. You're more about the knowledge and I really appreciate that.
I will emphatically and whole heartedly agree!
(Just what is it that makes some youtubers dub crappy music over everything? Do they think they're gonna get to direct the remake of 'Gone with the Wind' by using crap youtube music to blot out what little they had to say?) Can't count the number of channels I dropped solely for dubbed over music.
A--men to that.👍
i hate it when people do that on paranormal investigation videos and you can’t hear shit ..
Yes, I Fast Forward or move on.
Props for taking the time to explain hydraulics.
New control valve - $265, installation cost - $$$, electrical tape holding bandage on - priceless. Great video Wes.
I have loved Wes’s “describing hands” (as I call them) since I first started following the channel.
Of the many others things I love about Wes, is his excellent ability to describe function, flow, etc., of equipment, parts & pieces..., so that “even a caveman such as myself can understand it”...
Had to “chuckle” when the phone went off, and Wes was frustrated...
He has had many other situations relating to repairs that would have had me cussing like a sailor, and the phone call brings out his frustration...
Great video,
Thank you sir.
This Old Tony has the best "describing hands." His hands move with an Italian accent.
Not just a phone call, it was from a different country on the other side of the ocean. Something must be up (collecting/mapping/hacking phone numbers?) because I've got 3 similar calls in about 2 weeks. One of those was +33... code as this one here, not the same number though.
@@SeersantLoom French Whine Scam? Maybe exploring a new scam
The folks in France have been trying to get a hold of you because the warranty on your red pickup is going to expire and you will be responsible for all future repairs.
Hmm. That would be a bad deal. I'll call them back.
@@WatchWesWork
Not to worry. They will call again… & again… & again… etc.
@@daverunion2162 And send you spam mail to your house month after month after month.
@@JosephArata they called me for the billionth time last week. I played along and let the guy "verify" my truck so I made up a fairly new vehicle and they guy "approved" me then forwarded me to one of their "specialists". So I held on. This chick with an accent named Julie came on the line and tried to get me to buy the extended warranty and when she stopped talking and waited for me to reply I said "Julie, what are you wearing?" I thought it was funny. She hung up on me right away. I figure I can waste their time just like they waste mine. Hell, when my phone rings and its them my called ID say SPAM THREAT
I am surprised you have not been notified by several different people that your Norton antivirus subscription has been automatically renewed and your account will be debited.
Being an electrician for the last 16 years, I've made plenty of electric tape band-aids and can attest to their effectiveness. Great vid again Wes, love the engineering on the valve mount!
Lots of field experience has proven to me a paper towel wrapped in electrician's tape is the best band-aid there is. Functionally anyway.
@@fixins been doing that for years, actually more years than I care to admit.
Thumbs up!👍
I am allergic to most band aid products, so paper towels and electrical tape still rule with me.
Another interesting edition of Watch Wes Bleed.
I was totally lost all the way through the PRV lecture, but managed to wake up just in time for the wrenching. 😂
Best half hour nap I’ve ever had 🍺
I didn't understand anything you said about the pump and still enjoyed every minute of it. Excellent work Wes.
good old fram living up to its reputation!
With the cold weather here that battery charger is your MVP.
I was waiting to hear Mrs. Wes call out into the shop, "Hey Wes, have you seen my new nonstick brownie pan? I can't seem to find it". Thanks for explaining how the valves work. After using electrical tape on the band aid, I half expected to see duct tape on the welding glove to seal up that split seam.
Thanks for taking us along on this project. Quite a transition over the last year from barely running, only turned right, drawbar tractor to a fully functional little earth mover.
I love the electrical tape on the band-aid to keep it from constantly falling off. Such a simple idea but so effective.
You must not work on much stuff. I've done that for years, but who has time to ask mommy for a band-aid?? Grab what-ever tape you have close at hand, and man-up!
@@DarkFlamage I would say I don't work on stuff too much man. I just didn't realize the good idea. But thanks for commenting
We got a tough guy here
I always put the band - aid. First than used the electric tape to hold the band - aid on ! I was electrician .
Every day's a school day at watch Wes work
Oil filter blew out never seen that before? Oh wait, its a Fram. Thanks for the explanation on the valve learn something new every time I watch you.
REVstoration had a similar issue on a Ford V8 blowing out filters. They changed the oil pump and it fixed it. The relief valve had stuck and causing over pressure.
I have seen the same thing on a Ford pick up, I dont remember the year.
@@denniswilliams8747 Chrysler 2.2 litre had the problem briefly. Mopar filters could stand the pressure but some other brands failed and leaked.
The early Isuzu Troppers and Rodeos 4 cylinder gas engine had a problem whit the bypass valve getting stuck in the oil filter adaptor and blowing out the o-ring on the oil filter. Replacement of the oil filter adaptor solves the problem.
Interesting 🤔
Well then, This may not be the last video on the Oliver OC46...
At the end of the video you can bend that handle so it will not hit. You did a good job to fix that valve. We called that muffing it in. It not the right way but it works. After I saw oil filter cut open the only way I would use a Fram is for a short time use only.
That Frame filter probably doesn't have 10 hours of run time since I put it on. Prolly won't ever buy another one, except for the bypass filters on my old Allis tractors.
Wix or the one Wes replaced it with is a better choice than a Fram.
There was a time (when I was young) that Fram was high quality.
Wes hi i was a mechanic over 40 years before all these new stuff was around for tools what I, am getting at is you got your shit together don't let the pea on,s bust your balls they have no right your live on tv there not i watch your channel not to learn but it brings back memories Great job quality work WES [ WEAR SOFT SOUL BOOTS CONCRET ROUGH ON THE KNEES ] TAKE CARE
You may not know how fortunate you are to still have your dad to go to for things. Enjoy every minute with him my friend...
I've said this before but I wish I had a mechanic like you in my area.
Maybe Bend the control levers a little to stop them interfering with the hose when in the float position? 🏴
Fixed displacement pumps discharge a set amount per revolution, but not per RPM. The discharge amount varies with the speed of the rotations of the pump. That was one of the first things that I had to learn while studying hydraulics, over 50 years ago.
Holy crap it's a unicorn. the proverbial "blown fram filter" that has started countless forum arguments is real
I like the idea it's a stuck pressure relief valve. I've had success cleaning up old motors, gradually, using Rislone additive. And the Fram filter could be a contributing factor or all of it. In my opinion, they have the cheapest of the cheap construction.
Orange can frame is definitely junk especially the old ones, but modern fram gold and silver filters are actually quite good. Quite a bit of independent research out there on those teams and it all comes back pretty positive.
Filters have valves in them too
@Joby Fluorine they tend to have more pleats of filter material inside and to a finer micron rating. That is what the difference between wix and wix xp filters are at least. You can find this on the specs of the filter.
@Joby Fluorine I have to strongly disagree with you on this. There are a bunch of TH-cam videos where people tear down, measure, and inspect various filters and the difference in quality is plain to see. I don't know who makes the filters for WalMart, so I can't comment on that, but there is a huge difference between good quality and ElCheapo filers. I also make it a habit to ask professional engine builders about their opinion, they dont use WalMart or Fram orange death filters...
It was a stuck by-pass valve on the oil pump. It went over 200 PSI when it was cold. I put some Sea Foam in the oil and it has helped some, but still goes to 160 on a cold start, but drops back to 60PSI after a couple minutes of warming up.
I may end up dropping the belly pan and oil pan to get that fixed. The by-pass oil is what lubes the timing gears.
When I retire soon I'm going to start restoring vintage/antique earth moving equipment and tractors. Something I always wanted to do but working to to pay the bills never gave me the time or energy. Videos like yours Wes are going to be a god send for me when it comes to fabricating and repaing them. Thanks so much for the videos!
Just buy something from the last century. You'll enjoy the particularly blank stare you get at parts counters.
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@@jasonstinson1767 haha yep Already subscribed to him friend! Also letsdig18, Andrew Camatra, Halmiltonville Farms, Diesel Creek, Jpaydirt, MartyT, and HeavyDSparks. if you know any others feel free let me know. Take care and stay safe!
@@Le_Comte_de_Monte_Felin I'm a farmer and fabricator. Through my life, Ilve built the means the means to get or build parts for pretty much anything. Bying something newer and functional would totally defeat the puropse and statisfaction I'd get from bringing an old piece of equipment back to service. We all enjoy what we enjoy. You do you, friend.
@@BrodieBr0 mustie1
Fram oil filter: Somewhere off in the distance Eric O chimes in with "well there's yer problem, lady"
I had a filter-seal pop on my grandpa's truck once years ago, not because of an issue with quality of the filter, but because a technician at a cheap/fast oil-change place didn't remove the seal of the previous filter from the block!
They cranked it down hard enough that it sealed and went down the road for a good long while, only to blow while climbing a long steep hill going out to the dump one day. So it blew, dumped every drop of oil, and my mom (who was alone in the truck at the time) kept on driving to the dump, got there, and called me to ask whether she should shut it off! I told her yes, we had it towed home, I refilled it with oil, and it started up just fine! Then oil gushed/fountained up from one side of the engine and we shut it off quickly. It took one more trial-run with me looking underneath but I finally saw where the oil was spewing from. After that it was a simple matter of replacing the filter, peeling the doubled-up seal off of the block, and topping off the oil. Shockingly, it ran well for years after that! That old '83 F150 worked hard on minimal maintenance for years! But yes, Fram are cheap junk. Still, better the filter that pops than the lines!
Great video as always, Wes! To get those oil stains out of your hoodie, try some Fels Naptha. It comes in bar form, available anywhere fine laundry products are sold., like $1 a bar. Just wet the oily garment, and rub the bar into it. I use an old toothbrush on carpet and upholstery. That stuff has been around for over a century, and for anything greasy or oily on fabric, it works like magic. Some folks grind up the bars in a food processor and throw a scoop in the laundry. Happy Thanksgiving to you and the family!
When I was in fleet maintenance for one company we had a 544h loader blow out hydraulic filters, was the pressure relief valve. Now I am still in fleet maintenance just for my own fleet on the farm, was much nicer to be able to call for parts and not need to worry about the cost.....lol
Whenever you present us with the task, I try to second guess you on the fix & I always fall short
(Nice Bandaid)
The little caterpillar is now really fun. This is good for small projects or where the big ones don't fit.
It’s a Fram filter, what would we expect?
If it's cheapo orange FRAM, always expect it to fail. America's #1 selling engine killer.
@@JosephArata boy you got that right! If people knew what was inside they would run. I say pay the extra for a Wix.
@@fitzpreacherfarm6826 Wix is Mann-Hummel and used in OEM commercial trucking filtration. It's the ONLY filters I ever use now.
@@JosephArata Napa Gold are made by Wix
Never use chanel lock pliers to tighten the filter. I rented a backhoe and the dope that changed the hydrolic fluid pinched the filter with pliers. The filter burst spraying fluid all over my legs.
I remember the days when Fram was good.
Love the fact that even though you were working inside, you capped the lines. I have a box of caplugs just for that purpose. Like the tape bandage too!
I learned more in this one half hour vid than i did in the last 10 years. Thanks for sharing!
Always good stuff
Very cool vid.
Great job on replacing the two control valves. Explaining open center & closed center.👍
I quit using those two, three spool valves. One spool quits you need to replace whole thing. I use the individual banks now. I know that two spool valve will probably out last the machine because it not being used 20 hrs a day.
Very cool information on Hydraulic Loader Valve systems @Watch Wes Work
Blood,burns,& misaligned holes. Thanks for keeping it real. 👍🏻
If it continues like that, you'll need to build a dedicated garage to house that poor lil' thing!
Very nice and informative video, Wes.
Hi Wes, Chris here from UK. Your explanation is an inspiration to people like me doing work. Keep up the shows they are extremely useful.
Hydraulic mechanic for 7 years here. I feel your pain.
Its called the "Orange Can of Death" for a reason. Awesome job and great to see it working good.
Another awesome get around the problem vid by you Wes.
You certainly have a Saints patience working on some of the vehicles you repair.
That one was one long headache after headache series we subs sat back and enjoyed watching.
You control over not having to beep every other word is outstanding
Love the the way youbtook the time to explain the different systems. In my shop when you get scrapes and cuts it costs more on the bill. $100.00 for cuts, $200.00 for scrapes, triple if hydraulic are involved. I agree with you. You are going to get the fluid everywhere but where it suppose to be.
For somebody who doesn’t like hydraulics you sure seem to know a lot about them. Very good explanation of the function of that valve. Thanks for posting.🇬🇧
Comes with the territory.
Wes I was noticing your electrical taped finger "identifies" as a band-aid 😆
Excellent & very helpful explanationon on the workings of various hydraulic valve bodies !
Impressive the way that old machine starts so easily. It looks cold there, hope that your busted up thumb has stopped throbbing.
That was a very clear and interesting explanation of the open and closed type systems.
It was WAY colder the end of this week. Overnight low ow 11*F the other night.
This morning I picked Scoopy up from Wes. About the time to run him up on the trailer it was raining, and freezing to everything but black dirt.
Several car accidents and they closed both bridges across the Mississippi for a time this morning, but we got the Oliver home and tucked in the shed.
Loved watching the Oliver come back to life. Great job!
Your face when your driving that loader is priceless fantastic video again.
The simple example of having a new article of clothing and randomly having the oil filter explode on the day you decide to wear it was all too relatable lol.
Love it. I sent you that hoodie last year with a note that said green for Oliver, and ironically the first outing is on an Oliver. I know you probably didn't get the note from the shipper, but glad it worked out and you can put it to use. cheers.
Well thank you! There was a note but I guess I forgot about it.
Where can I get one of those? I heard they work great for mopping up oil spills! 🤣🤣
@@DarkFlamage Just filters the hydraulic sun-block before it self-applies to the wearer.
Hey Wes, the lighting in your shop looks great! Im watching on a 65" and the picture is perfect. Great camera
This Oliver video series makes me feel alot better about all the time and money I have sank into 1948 AC HD5 !!
0:06 “That is a very loud train horn.”
That’s Nathan Airchime for ya.
FRAM= "the orange can of death" in the oil filter world according to the "Bob is The Oil Guy" site...lol. Love the old Oliver crawlers!
Great work Wes. You have an amazing amount of knowledge!
Super video, education, sarcasm and oil on the floor. What more could one want?
I really like that little jig you made for the Hydraulic Valves !! 👍👍👍 I use to make contraptions like that for the Golf Course !!! ⛳
Great job as always young man and thanks for explaining said valve operation.
I have found that an ultrasonic cleaner works great to clean up all the carbs on my small engines.
Great video as always Wes. I can only imagine what the cost to fix the old girl was between parts and labor 😳. Luckily someone wanted to save it and let you give it a new life. Thank you again
Great deer blind sittin content! Many times I've used electrical tape for a bandage.
It's a Fram filter. I've seen them with split seams on many occasions. I would use old socks stuffed in a tomato can before I would use a Fram filter on anything.
[Edit: Thanks a lot for the explanation on the different types of hydraulic systems - closed center and open center. ]
Thanks for taking the time to explain how the valves worked, it helped me learn allot.
The Oliver excavator has become like an old friend. It’s like a good friend from college or high school that you see just a few times a year. Glad to see hit your shop. Awesome work fabbing up the mounting bracket. It’s a pleasure to hang out with you in your shop.
Oil Filters fail because the oil pump relief valve did not open. I like Wix Filters I enjoy your videos, thanks for sharing!
Wix is the best. They are also the same as NAPA Gold and most Purolator filters. Also the better level CarQuest filters.
👍👌👏 Extremely well done again (video and work). I like this little crawler. As always: Thanks a lot for making teaching explaining recording editing uploading and sharing.
Best regards luck and health to all of you.
Once again, a great project! I have two tractors with hydraulic loaders and had no idea how the valves actually worked until your explanation with in this video, so thank you!
Great video,
Ripped thumb, scam calls, holes not lining up.... the fact that it's Friday keeps me going.
Wes if you simply wouldn’t put so much pressure on that little excavator to perform, it wouldn’t blow out filters. Hahaha. Another great glimpse into the story that is your daily life, and the skills and humor you use on the journey.
Despite your claim of disliking hydraulics, you have done a beautiful, tidy job on this Wes.
I personally dislike BSP fittings and far prefer JIC, but sometimes it’s better to stick with what everything else is on the machine.
I keep watching waiting for the day Wes really lowers himself to the level of the rest of us techs and uses full out cuss words when his project hurts him. I have created some of the best cuss words from working on projects that bite back.
Look forward to watch Wes work Saturday.
I work in the vacuum truck industry, building new equipment and deal with hydraulic systems every day. Its all fun and dandy when its dry , and your neatly routing hoses . But wait till you find out your brand new hyd pump, motor, or the worst a spool valve is defective or was incorrect/ non suffucient part loaded out in the bill of material by a wonderful engineer, and all the oil in the world spills out on you, your tools, and a nice new truck you just built 🤣😂. I really do love hydraulics though, making all my hoses run so nice and neat, and seeing a pile of parts do things is awesome
Great vid Wes. Love the education on valves, very useful information. On a side note, you might look at horse stall floor pads to prevent crawler type equipment to damage your floor. A local guy near me uses them and they work great at preventing damage to the cement floor. Thanks for sharing
A couple of things, 1. First time experiencing a blown oil filter and using a funnel without remarking how much you hate funnel’s! 2. Good use of electrical tape on the boo-boo, duct tape is for the stitches required cuts! 3. As usual an excellent and informative video! Keep up the great work, can’t wait to see your next one!!
awesome job, just binge watched the entire series
Why i enjoy your work is because, you are very clean when working and or your shop in general...Organization is important when fixing anything... Clean environment to me is priceless....Good work....
Great fix to replace spool valves. I’m surprised at only $200 + cost for new valves. (($1000 real cost in labour} This OC46 is My all time favorite project. I want You to do a follow up show a year from now to see the machine in action. Thanks!
Maybe I'll invest in a decent vid camera, and do some clips of Scoopy working for my channel. Or Wes, can come over here and do a video when I get a little bit of practice.
He's home here and tucked in the shed for now 😁 Canardly wait to push something over 👍
I always put new clothes in the closet for 10 years, then I always have something new to wear if I die. In my 65 years experience, Monkey INC. parts hardly ever work as well as original, always worth the extra buck, you have to pay for the original engineering. Love that educational mechanic language. Cheers.
Thanks for the hydraulic valve lesson. I love the mounting design.
My oil truck shop garage has RailRoad Tracks in the floor. 34" wide, dozer, wide, and etc. The buried in cement iron is bonded and grounded by rebar to a stub where the welder can use that stub as a lea hookup for welding. The floors is level and functions like a Frame Machine to lay outs and straightening out bend iron. I can make a jug for any pull, cut a frame and strech out a truck frame, and etc. When done, a grinding wheel removes welded on jugs and restores my floor to normal. One stall has a front end pit that is home built. Learn that trick from North Dakota farmers who repair all their machines.
When getting a suspicious call slide up on your phone up and put it on airplane mode momentarily. This will show on the callers end as “call failed” instead of “call ended” some auto dialers see this as a dead line and after a few attempts they remove your number.
Great work. Is there a stuck relief on oil pulp maybe that was supposed to dump to pan or was filter defective?
Nice job on the Oliver. Thanks for describing the control valve configuration.
At the end when you were moving around dirt I had memories of playing with Tonka trucks in the sandbox as a kid.
Yay first!
............well done, I'm so proud of you what a epic achievement!
@@marksbikeexports5123 it was hard. But worth it. Id like to thank the academy, youtube of course and the good people at apple that supplied my phone.
I thought you were going to say the guy wanted the original controls mounted on that new value. What the hell Wes you might as well do it. I'll give you 👍👍' s for that video.
I like watching guy biulding high pressure hyd systems with water pipe fittings ,great work
It's not a high pressure system. Those 600 grade fittings are rated for much more than the 1300 psi this thing puts out.
Your tutorial on open versus closed hydraulic control is very much appreciated! Short and succinct, perfect!
HAPPY THANKSGIVING YOU ALL
Good little video to watch and eat supper too. Thanks Wes, Have a great weekend 👋
It's a Fram oil filter what did you expect??? Wes have you ever cut open a brand-new Fram oil filter off the shelf? Well I didn't but others have and they are packed with nothing but goodness rust rust rust straight from the factory and usually the filter inside is yet to be desired by anybody. But you my friend you're the cream of the crop. Thanks for sharing your videos, many blessings to you and your family.
Had to skim through the comments, checking to see how many complained about driving over the concrete floor. Glad to see that I couldn't find any.
DON'T GET UPSET ABOUT GETTING THAT PHONE CALL. THEY ARE JUST CALLING TO LET YOU KNOW THAT YOUR CAR'S ' EXTENDED FACTORY WARRANTY" IS ABOUT TO EXPIRE! 🤣🤣🤣
Go on admit it. You really wanted to call the channel Watch Wes Play, right? I am so jealous. I don't need a little diggery thing, but if I did I would have done just what you did. Have a play in the sandpit. Loved the explanations of high flow versus high-pressure valves. You know your stuff Wes.
nice paint job. Leonardo de Krylon. i worked on unimate industrial hydraulic robots for years and learned more from you on hydraulic theory. great video
She's almost ready for the 4th of July Parade Wes. I hope the owner is planning to let you walk behind while Mrs Wes operates this fine piece of machinery. 😉 Maybe add one of them warning stickers for the knuckle buster handle?