Imagine if Pearl didn’t know Rose was Pink. When the reveal comes, now Pearl would have to come to terms with whether she ever actually rebelled, or was simply following her diamond the entire time. Personally I think that’d make a much better story.
@The Pshycho Path this is true but that why they have writing teams for shows. Some draft the story and others review who haven't worked on it so they have a fresh view and hindsight can come into play. It's not perfect but their should be a process of review through multiple people in the least
I think it would've been an interesting reveal if Spinel (or maybe just rejuvenators in general) were introduced earlier. This way, Pearl could just not know Punk was Rose. To help keep the secret, Rose would've reset Pearl.
*"When did this happen? I didn't see any of this!"* Basically ALL of Lapis' and Lars' character development. And the Diamonds supposedly dismantling their empire and freeing all their Gems. All offscreen.
Imaging dissolving an empire in such a short time. Now imaging doing tha to an empire with a population that has hierarchy and comformity as the number 1 goal. There is only 1 outcome to this. The higher ranking gems will gather followers and start infighting to determin who is the new boss. If the show was even a bit reaslitic they just cause a giant civil war.
@@JeroenDoes Funny thing that idea of higher ranking gems gathering followers and start infighting to determine who is the new boss sort of happened in the most recent SU mobile game
@@alicequeenofmadness9995 I did not know that. I said it because this has always happened when an empire fell appart in real world history. See Rome, the Holy Roman Empire and especially China and Japan
There is a small plot point that the show dropped entirely. Peridot mentioned that homeworld was having resource problems. This is never mentioned again. What do you think about it?
Another frustrating thing about the fact that suddenly ONLY Steven can redeem someone or faciliate their character development...Is that the show USED to have good moments where he wasn't NEEDED to instigate another character's growth. Like you said where characters in this show NEVER talk out their issues unless STEVEN is there to push them to DO it..Remember the scene where Garnet and Pearl talked out their differences over the Sardonyx deception? Or when Peridot willingly turned against Yellow Diamond? She came to that choice ON HER OWN. The show USED to know how to have characters resolve their issues, but now HAS to be Steven who "fixes" a character.
Steven might not have pushed Garnet and Pearl to make up, but the situation did. Why did Garnet not take Pearl aside and talk to her, herself? Without the impending doom of the death trap that would have killed them if they hadn't fused to escape? Pearl also talks over Garnet and gets in her way until they fall into that death trap. Pearl is more interested in giving Garnet every reason to forgive her, rather than give her leader the time and space to heal properly. Being sorry someone is mad at you and being sorry you hurt someone you're supposed to care for/respect are two different things. Garnet even acts as though Pearl never hurt her in the first place after the arc is done. No tension or change in behavior. The writing of Steven Universe has always been "Organic" in that different writers pass the script along and "go with what sounds fun" rather than what makes sense in a structure perspective. This isn't an issue with simple episodes like "Lars and the cool kids" or "Indirect Kiss" or whatever else. But episodes that have to do with trauma, abuse, slavery, etc get the same haphazard treatment and it gets really creepy really quick.
Finally someone mentions how Steven Universe did Connie dirty. She had so much potential but they keep pushing her to the side. Honestly true about most gems too. Ugh this makes me so mad.
I was dissappionted with how she only does one attack against blue diamond with roses sword and the sword just breaks. Connie does nothing else in that fight with yellow and blue except ride on lion.
The biggest problem with Connie in the show is she lives in a different city. Connie has a whole life away from beach city and Steven so she can’t do anything if Steven Isn’t right next to her, but still they keep her from action and real fighting.
Something I just realized: Pink: "We're taking life and leaving nothing behind. We have to stop this!!" **thousands of years pass with her canonically getting with humans and having multiple flings with them** Pink when she talks to Greg: "I LOVE humans, you're all so FUNNY!!" ...Did this lady literally 'save the earth' without really understanding human emotions? Or human capability? Did she date humans thinking of them as funny pets? And this conception got unaddressed by the other CGs for 6000 years--it literally took Greg calling her out during their dance and asking her to treat him like a real person for her to be like "Oh.....oh."
"Did this lady literally 'save the earth' without really understanding human emotions? Or human capability? Did she date humans thinking of them as funny pets? And this conception got unaddressed by the other CGs for 6000 years--it literally took Greg calling her out during their dance and asking her to treat him like a real person for her to be like" Few things the other CGs barely interacted with humans so their knowledge is worse than Rose aside from maybe Amethyst and she might have not even really started interacting with them until after Greg. Also the point Rose makes early on was that all life was precious so ofcourse even if she didn't think they were as capable as gems she didn't think they deserve to be slaughtered.
I agree. I also think they needed to lay out the powers of each character and the rules of each of them. Like Garnets future vision, just...wow...I honestly think the show would've been A LOT better if it wasn't for children. But it has such a positive message and shows the importance of acceptance of other people so...I'm kinda stuck.
I agree 100%. The improved worldbuliding alone would have upgraded this show significantly. It wouldn't fix everything but it will make the show as a whole much more interesting.
@rexsupreme1840 I actually think we do need some world-building of Earth because I want to know what the government is doing through all this. Was there some kind of treaty that said the gems were solely responsible for everything left behind by the war? Shouldn't humans be more aware of the gems? Shouldn't gems have a better understanding of human culture and society? Pearl once said something about humans leading insignificant lives and I thought, "bitch, they have guns. (by the way, there is a brief instance where we see guns exist) You have a spear. They can probably at least poof you."
The irony is that the show wastes so much time world building, just not in the Right Ways. Wanna see how Lars got off the gem home world, stole/learned to fly a ship. Naw let’s watch the mayor Dewey lose his job, while Steven screws around for several weeks
I remember enjoying Avatar - The Last Airbender when I was watching it as a maybe 8-year-old, and I still love it today. Kids can understand more complex stories.
Speaking of Avatar, SU redeeming the Diamonds, but not Jasper, would be like Avatar redeeming Ozai and Azula, but not Zuko. And to add insults to injury, Zuko would still be trying to capture the Avatar to restore his honour. He'd be the Team Rocket of the show
Because avatar had good writing, animation, action choreography,likable characters, good POC rep and disabled rep ect. So basically everything SU doesn’t
I know this is a years old comment, but I've got to agree here. I grew up watching Redwall- a series about a monk boy, who goes on a quest for a famous sword, cuts a monster's head clean off, impaled a bandit lord with a ballista, _poured boiling hot liquid down a hole dug by invaders, _*_and then killed the bandit lord all over again by dropping a church bell on him._* This was a kids show, based of a series of books, written by a sweet old man- and it unquestioningly takes its subject matter more seriously & treats it with more respect than steven universe ever did. IMO both it, and the how to train your dragon series, also originally a kids book series, handle these things SO much better.
20:42 My theory is after years of Rebecca defending Rose/Pink's actions. She gave up: "Fine If you want a villain I will give u villain" Part of me wish: White Diamond was behind Volleyball Cracked eye. After all, she has mind powers. Not Pink
@@bobi200samatar6 honestly Diamond days should have been a season into itself, showing off homeworld, its culture and how the gems deal with being back Could have had steven do some more diamond dream flashbacks to flesh out Rose's backstory and explain why she was the way she was
Rose didn't expect the Diamonds to leave because they're scared. Rose thought that because of her own relationship with the Diamonds. The Diamonds were incredibly abusive to Pink and she had NO reason to believe they cared about her at all, and because Blue _directly said to Pink_ that if she disappeared the colonization would stop. Rose's plan made the most sense from her own perspective.
I really hated change your mind. It was really, truly stupid and felt so rushed and forced that it hurt. 1) first, the diamonds. Their resolution and reformation was so unearned, like I understand blue, she just wanted pink and wanted to be whole again so she'd be willing to change but yellow took pride in ruling her colonies with an iron fist. She was stone-faced and showed very little signs of being emotionally unstable. It is completely out of her character to break down crying. It is ridiculous and feels so out of place. Also, white, oh white. She was set up as unwavering, indifferent and never changing her views. The fact that she was convicted to COMPLETELY TAKE DOWN HER ENTIRE EMPIRE because she was *EMBARRASSED* is infuriating. She thinks she is perfect and pure, she would most likely lash out, blame Steven and his friends and annihilate them completely. 2) then the fusions. I waved off rainbow 2.0. We had been introduced to rainbow quartz before so I just saw it as Steven taking what his mother's and making it his own. It fit the theme of the arc and kinda works. Sunstone made no sense. It was so hyped up because "it's garnet, the fusion character!" It felt more like a Steven and ruby fusion gone wrong. Like, where is Sapphire in this, why is it just fire? Not to mention, the design felt nothing like the characters themselves. With every fusion, you see a bit of each character, but with sunstone it's just an excuse to make a fire safety children's character. That's all she is, they even put her in SUF for that exact reason. It just hurts. I have so much more to say but this comment is already so long, I just can't
The fact that a comeback brought down White sounds more like a joke fans would make about how awesome that comeback was and I will admit, Steven saying, "I am a child. What's your excuse?" was pretty awesome. I really feel like someone should send this show to SNL or John Oliver because it needs to really be brought to Rebecca Sugar's attention how terrible of a writer she is.
I feel cheated by Steven universe. The promised an large scale story with homeworld and everything. But Steven Universe really is just about a teen and his teen problems. It is about growing up and his personal relationschips. The large evil empire? The war? Yea those are just part of the background.
The one thing I didn’t really like about the whole rose/ pink diamond and pearl relationship was the fact everyone was saying it was romantic and or viewing it as such when it was clearly one sided and then when a single pale rose dropped everyone took that as confirmation that they were a thing which confused me bc the only thing I saw was that rose/pink doesn’t understand people outside of herself and that in actuality she didn’t until she met Greg the only person who took the time to say wtf to the way he was being treated by her so to me anything before their relationship was always one sided to her not because she was necessarily cold hearted but she just didn’t have the understanding of other people having feelings too that are just as complex as hers
I was looking at the list of essential episodes from SU, as in non-filler episodes, do you know what I found? I found that if you were to take all the essential episodes of SU and compacted them into anime length episodes, you'd have roughly 16 episodes for everything up until the movie. That's only slightly more than a regular anime season, which is 13 episodes. That's fucking sad to think about, considering how long this series has been going, and how much of that time has been in hiatus so that they would've had ample time to make plot-relevant episodes.
I just realized something. Pink Diamond is Jonas Venture done wrong! In Venture Brothers Jonas is a dead parent who is idolized as this impossibly grand, heroic scientist legend leaving behind boots too big for the son to hope to fill. Because he left his son poorly prepared. Slowly we learn this idol has a few flaws and curious secrets. The shows delve deeper, and deeper to reveal that they were no good at all, but monstrous. Jonas killed ALOT of innocent people and simply used Scapegoats or buried the truth. Pink did the same. He betrayed, and used his own friends as tools. Bribing, or simply blackmailing them to kill for him so he can keep this perfect image, while getting what he wants, like sex with his friends wife. Jonas shows absolutely no remorse, or shame, and even boasts that he's done his victims a service when called out on it. This is where the two actually split as Pink seems to genuinely feel shame, at least. Pink is a dumbass, but portrayed as true evil, where as Jonas is an evil psychopath with damn good PR. Jonas is never out of character, SU bends over backwards to keep making Pink worse. So what the shows do is VB allows the cast to not only admit he's done horrible things, but that he IS a monster. SU acknowledges that Pink has done horrible things, but is treated as actually worse than the other monsters who in fact worse. Yeah Pink fucked up a planet, got a ton of innocent gems killed, because she's a complete dumbass. The other 3 have several worlds each at minimum, kill the disabled/deformed, are racists, and are actually evil. They also don't just pile on what Jonas did. It's all there, set up in the background and fully realized along the way. With Pink she did everything bad including stuff pulled out of nowhere.
There's actually even more parallels. Pretty much every problem the shows casts have is caused by them. They're both unintentionally killed by their sons. They both brought the dead back to life. There was also a moment when it seemed both of them would come back. Seriously, it is insane...
It's really, REALLY obvious they didn't know that was going to be the final season (and didn't know they'd be getting Future.) No sane production team would have paced or spent episodes the way they did if they'd known that was the end. Even something like Legs to Homeworld would have in an earlier season been a two or three episode process just to get there, they woudn't have spent one of the final episodes on Watermelon Steven, and they definitely wouldn't have done the entire White arc from introduction to finish in half an hour, including squeezing in last minute fusions that they just never got around to. It has all the signs that they thought they had more time, then ran out and crunched.
You’re right, and what’s even more annoying is the fact that they actually thought they were going to get over 7-9 seasons to bull shit the whole time. Most shows end after 5 seasons.
lars of the stars should have been a flashback episode, kind of like "ludo in the wild" meets "THE ANSWER" in fact just have that instead of your mother and mine or letters to lars. where we show lars taking up the leadership of the off colors and using their individual strengths. and they are willing to follow him because nobody's ever focused on their strengths before everyone's always focused on what's wrong with them. he can direct the fusions to use their enhanced strengths and powers to beat up some guards or use their splittiness to take some smaller patrols prisoner like topaz did to lars. maybe padparascha will "predict" that the ship that landed is special in some way. and lars could use his kamui powers to sneak everyone past some kind of security system. instead of just having emerald briefly describe lars' exploits
Rebecca Sugar: "It's like Bruce Wayne falls in love with Alfred." She forgets that Alfred is Batman's adoptive dad after his biological parents got killed. So either we have a slave falling in love with her master who has psychological control over her--OR we have parent/child dynamics. Sugar this isn't as sweet as you think it is.
@@JB-ml4oe Was she abusive to Pearl though? I think Volleyball’s incident made her be like “I have to stop doing this” or something. I mean, I think too many people are taking “they were slaves” too literally. They have their own store and spa just for rejuvenating and buying accessories. Why couldn’t a servant and master fall in love? The class you are born into doesn’t change how your feelings toward a person manifest. Anyway, that’s just my take on it, because other than breaking up with her for Greg, we haven’t seen specifically Pink treat specifically our Pearl in a bad way.
Their is a fan fiction story about Black Pearl who once served PD. When pink "died" Pink Pearl was devastated. She agreed to take part in an experiment to make gems more powerful. The procedure drove her mad and she became Black Pearl. The ultimate gen weapon. Her story is dark and tragic and better than the backstory of CG pearl. Black Peark is ruthless, sadistic and very scary. The story is on youtube and it is very good. I highly reccomend. The writing is much better than the writing in the show. Seriously I wish Black Pearl would be animated. I watch that over SU future anyway.
Regarding the whole "Steven knows nothing" problem, it's compounded not just by the fact the gems keep hiding it all from him but also that they're incredibly unreliable narrators- following episodes always come around to contradict exposition they previously dumped. So what ended up happening across this show is when they aren't lying to him about what's happened in the past and what's presently happening, they're instead just outright wrong about the facts, even from characters who logically should know better ie Garnet's future vision being entirely useless and unhelpful except for when it's needed for stupid shenanigans. Even in earlier seasons, the one time he actually blows up at them for constantly leaving him in the dark, the writing wants to insist he's out of line and being insensitive- and even when they promise to be open about things with him, that didn't carry into the following seasons when you look at how many twists and reveals kept coming from them here
So many stories above my age range that I understood when I was a kid. Terminator. Jurrassic park. The last airbender. Dragon ball. Children can understand order of events.
The thing about the "Pearl was just following her master the entire time!" argument is that it's a concept that only works if you stop watching after A Single Pale Rose. Because not only do we know from the movie that a Pearl's loyalty is directly tied to her perception of her owner from physical appearence and name, and furthermore, from "Now We're Only Falling Apart", we know that Pearl's love for Rose only came AFTER they began the Crystal Gems, when she would imagine a world where she defected from Pink and ran away with _a Rose Quartz._ As far as Pearl's programming goes, Rose Quartz and Pink Diamond are two entirely different people.
Here's the thing after a Single Pale Rose a lot of people seem to have skipped anything that explained Rose's actions or Pearl just to justify hating Rose more
I guess the pearl in Rhodonite was a pearl that rebelled against her master and ran away with the gem she loves. As for our pearl. I understand this twist makes her a different character and a less inspiring one at least at the start, but she grows into that independent person and I think that's worth something would I have perfered if she wasn't pink's pearl and that pink's pearl was taken by white diamond after pink's "death" to show maybe she was torn up (Idk the diamonds I have weird feelings towards. I don't understand why pink is more demonized than the other diamonds when she's the only one that even began to understand other life had value.) Yes I would have loved rebel pearl and at first this almost ruined her for me, but I grew to appreciate her growth away from her obsession with an extremely toxic relationship with pink/rose into finding herself. Just because she's not as inspiring as she could have been I still think her story in this way has some value even if it's uncomfortable. Thanks for reading my ramble of thoughts.
The difference is blue and yellow are just following orders they know of white diamonds power if they act out or do anything against white they will lose everything and become mindless Yes they did some messed up shit but look at it from their point of view their sister was thought to be killed by another and now that they think they can be killed the society got more strict to me at least the gems were more than likely more independent (going by that flashback to when garnet came into existence) but due to pinks action the empire became more strict White diamond is evil to us yes but she is basically a god to them morals dont really exist to them she knew of everything and didnt care pink faked her death and she didnt tell blue and yellow this Pink on the other hand was pretty much a spoiled brat all the time she just wants everything to be hers At least the diamonds are trying to create more of their people and make sure they have resources
@@pixelman6193 I don't agree. As implied by future it seems pink really tried to change and even learned to heal organic life and gems. The other diamonds would likely be capable of at least some of those abilities, but never learned. Yes I understand moral relativism and the reasons the diamonds did what they did, but I still don't see a way for them to be better than pink. Pink and Rose did a lot of messes up things, but they seemed like they were trying to me. Even amongst normal gems it must have been hard to get for her to understand let alone organic life, but she tried and saw value in it. If she just wanted everything to be hers the human zoo likely would suffice, but that's not what she wanted. She appreciate Earth and how organic life lived there. She grew to understand other gems as individuals. Sure Yellow and Blue might have been scared, but they were/are bigoted as well to other gems, especially gems like the off colors, and organic life just like White. Just my 2 cents. I enjoy the diamonds, but I think Pink and Rose get an unfair wrap compared to them.
@@mattm2451 pink until greg came into her live didnt see humanity as beings on or near her level they were funny things to her just objects for her to play with She deserves the hate imho yes she changed at the end but that doesnt erase her past At least with blue and yellow they were just doing what they were told to do example think if someone took your family hostage or put a bomb collar on you and if you didnt say rob a bank they would kill you or your family. That's how the relationship of the diamonds and white were until steven came along What steven did was prove to white she wasnt perfect and all knowing and that her top creations the diamonds were also flawed Also consider that white probably taught blue and yellow that the other gems were just tools and if one acted out that tool was defective Look at the final episode of season 5 the moment blue and yellow get the chance to they team up with steven to take on white they just on board they obviously grew to dislike how homeworld was ran Honestly white is the main villian and still is and the only reason she probably isnt bubbled is because no one can do that to her they cant hurt her physically It would be like adam and eve challenging god they would lose without a doubt so they have to just try to talk to white and just hope they can change her mind and keep her happy Honestly based on that villain card for future white is either gonna lose her shit and go rouge or somehow jasper is gonna want to experience fusion again to be powerful and who else would be more perfect than the most powerful being she knows of
@@pixelman6193 Who do you think taught pink? The diamonds. I find it very flawed to think the diamonds did EVERYTHING out of fear. Yellow and Blue colonized countless planets with who knows how much life..Yellow desperately wanted the cluster to destroy the Earth, you think that was white's order? Sure Rose so humans as per like perhaps and or just curiosities to be studied like early white anthropologists, but if it wasn't for her no gems would have seen bio life as worth anything. To me her curiosity in humans, while a little condescending, wasn't malicious. Idk I understand your opinions, but I have to disagree. I am curious about how White will be used in Future.
@@mattm2451 she wanted the earth and that reminders of pink to be removed while blue embraced what was left of pink yellow wants to destroy it all I can kinda forgive the whole planet killing since thats the only way the gem race can even grow and continue on It would be like telling all of humanity to live on the island of hawaii and there is a big chance the majority of those planets didnt have life or that life was like dinosaurs We just dont know i mean if it wasnt for pink the cluster wouldnt have been formed the corruption wouldnt exist and its possible that earth wouldnt even had been colonized The diamonds didnt know that they were corrupting the gems on earth they thought they were avenging pink and there was an order to retreat we are told this some just either didnt make or just stayed behind to fight and when they came to earth the corrupted gems probably looked like earth creatures to them
BTW, they disband the colonies after CYM ,though yeah, they still needed more punishment, and at least they should've had them do it on the final scenes of CYM, instead of saying it offhand aat the beginning of the movie
I hated the Rose is Pink Diamond reveal. I feel it squandered all potential for Rose Quartz's character. You could have had a character that everyone idolized but you find out is flawed and did some bad things to get things done and worked in a lesson about how everyone makes mistakes. Instead we got was the reveal that Pink/Rose is spoiled child, a coward and kind of a irredeemable monster. With Jasper's dialogue and actions it is hinted that Pink was sending people to fight eachother probably because she didn't want to have to deal with her older siblings. Then they keep adding more and more oh by the way your mom is a horrible person as the series went on.
@Katie Lewis exactly I would've liked that Rose was Pinks actual guard with Pearl and Pink wanted this rebellion but trusted it to those her sisters would believe in capable. I thought that's how the show was going, Pink grew in a way she could and with the way they were showing that Yellow couldve shattered her I thought maybe she did accidentally trying to get Rose as the face of this rebellion. But Pink as a last ditch of her growth from bratty to what a true leader should be shattered and or got poofed and stayed a gem. Remember that Pink gem in the chest I thought oh man that's her. But nope.
I hated it because of the squandered potential that the idea has for the show because they want to write Rose's development in reverse yet still make her out to be good. Like, the best thing they could have done is reveal that Rose is an evil Diamond, but have the gems teach Steven that he can be a good person despite that and use his powers to *actually* help people instead of manipulating them with false kindness and sob stories.
B&B Bandito even if they didn’t do rose was pink diamond, rose is still a horrible person. Every character who had talked about her to Steven, there was never anything positive to say. I’m not including Garnet, Pearl or Amethyst because they’re irrelevant to anything that goes against their precious Rose Quartz. And even when they found out it they were mad, for like half the episode and then it was quickly swept under the rug.
@@lilmissanimatd We never actually got to find out what Rose was actually like outside of her romance with Greg. Everyone other than the crystal gems and Bismuth were enemies of Pink or were created after her and had no interaction with her. Bismuth's bubbling was the only really questionable action other than not telling everyone everything and supposedly shattering pink. They had the opportunity to make her a flawed and compelling character that could have taught Steven a lesson about continuing to improve despite your mistakes. Instead we got a large pink plot device that turns into a what a twist moment that suprised no one replaces all character development with 6 mins of She was just misunderstood and a tidbit of expository dialogue before Steven has to motivated to move the plot along.
I always found it strange that the gems have forms of entertainment despite the show building up that each gem is just a nameless tool to be used and the utilitarianism of the gems just made the home world episodes strange.
All for it with the diamonds. I super hated they got turned into uwu they were sad cuz Pink they arent bad at all, they just thought they were right. Like hmmm okay. I wish pink wasnt rose cuz it would show pink in herself was ready to give her life for her cause and her rose quartz and pearl was her hope for her rebellion. That or Pink did lose her form and reformed back as something akin to a new gem that was similar look to a RQ. Not that she fake shattered just disappeared without a trace with pearl and her other rose quartz. Though I hate that we cant have her around or more episodes with her growing as a person on earth to make her decision to have steven with Greg. She obviously changed at that point but I HATE THEY KEEP MAKING PINK THE CRUX OF ISSUES. The shows a one trick pony cuz she is missing her development that the diamonds are taking from her. They literally dont deserve the moments she should be getting. Like Steven having a moment to talk to her through his gem. She is her gem and they should be able to talk and have a final let go as mother and son it's so dumb.
@@BinguDingus I think that's because after Nightmare Hospital they didn't really give her any character growth other than in one instance in Mindful Education. She was turned into a person that was kinda just there to fuse with Steven when the stakes got higher
I knew Rose was Pink from the start since I put two and two together once my friends said, there’s a twist with the diamonds. So I went in knowing that and still really enjoyed Rose. I think that she is a great character as she is seen through bias from every character, all the crystal gems and even the homeworld gems have different opinions, I liked the mystery on who she really was. Everyone in the show sees her through (excuse the pun) Rose Coloured Glasses. A lot of people say the twist ruins her character, I can see that but I enjoy that we see her development backwards. She starts being good and we see slowly that she’s more grey and then mostly evil. I wish we got more from her to be honest. I’d love to hear other opinions.
I like it, but I *LOATHE* how it's executed because the moral isn't "everyone makes mistakes," it's "this person is manipulatively evil specifically and so it gives us carte blanche to torture her offspring and ignore her family's crimes while beating her corpse into the floorboards instead of addressing it while she was alive and giving her servants therapy."
It isn’t the twist that ruins, it’s the reverse development... It’s like “White Diamond was Hitler, but Pink is the Super Devil, who carries around a jar of marmalade that forces you to obey” or something like that. Every time we see her, she gets worse, and it’s like... you’re supposed to upset Steven by saying “mom sucks” not the audience. You can’t bait and switch the audience for 5 years. It feels like a betrayal from the writers rather than the character.
Why did they only focus on how Connie felt? Was Greg/ Crystal Gems ok with Steven sacrificing himself? And the solution to the arc was they'll stick together and do everything together. Wait so in Future when Steven wanted to be Stevonnie forever wasn't he just doing what Connie wanted?
Pacifism also doesn’t work for a character that’s never had to fight to survive. It kind of just shows privileged. Steven grew up in a completely safe and loving environment, with three moms and a dad taking care of him.
That honestly would be good heck have greg fall for that mega pearl fusion They could bond over the love of rose/pink all of them seeing a different side of her
Honestly Greg deserves so much more screentime and he doesn't do enough. He just drives the van, loves steven like a dad should, has to deal with Pearl hating him for years until his son basically begs both of them to reconcile, and (I can't believe people seem to forget) got seduced by Amethyst transforming into his dead wife. And it's implied that he doesn't want her "to do this to me **again** " Amethyst did that more than once to Greg and all she had to do for him to forgive her was to buy him a seashell-themed picture frame for the picture of him with the woman she was copying. Incredible writing
The Steven-Only POV is why we never got a Peridot / Tiny Floating Whale team-up episode, probably. Okay, okay, maybe not, but how excruciatingly cute would that have been?
Also what makes the slave thing worse is that Garnet never has another word that doesn't involve fusion. It's all she talks about. Not to mention, the show built up Homeworld so much that when we finally saw it it just sucked hard.
Yah it's very obvious that they had no idea what to do with a lot of their characters and threats they introduced so they waste episodes. Also imo Future is worse. I just can't watch it since it's just bad and the first time the show made me cringe constantly.
Cala Maria Future is awful, I can barely watch it either . For some reason Steven is the self righteous, I have to fix everything “leader” now and the gems act like children instead of beings that have lived for centuries. They keep throwing around that Steven has PTSD but I don’t know why he has it. They barely fought on this show, he never loses and nothing major/traumatic happens that could possibly change the way he acts or his way of thinking that extreme. And he’s supposed to be going through puberty bc he’s 16 but he was already a teen when the show started so he should have already been going through these “changes.” So over 5 seasons were supposed to be in a 2 year span on the show
I think Rose could have been a far better use showing the progress of the diamonds. She clearly isn't the best person, in fact she is still a terrible person. She still sees life as being beneath her, doesn't understand other's point of view, and still commanded everyone that she could with out explaining the why. But, she is still far better than the other diamonds. Steven could have showed them Rose's actions and show them that they aren't united. This could have led to them wanting to see other points of view since they were able to change Rose's mind. They could have stayed in power, and just stopped being gem nazis. It would be a better way of showing a shift in personality, Blue Diamond could shift the most with the regret of her actions, White could have been the staunch defender of their actions but still listen, and Yellow could be the in between.
What I think happened was that Rose was ALWAYS supposed to be Pink Diamond, but when people started making Theory and Speculation videos (this is after FNAF when people would tear apart every little minute detail of anything to try and piece together any half-assed theory) Rebecca was like, “Oh no, they’ve already figured out my twist!” So she then adjusted Rose to make it seem like there was NO POSSIBLE WAY for her to be Pink Diamond. “Ya’ll are DUMB for even THINKING that stupid theory!” And completely destroyed Rose’s character just so she could be all! “Just kidding! Rose is Pink LOL”
I hate that...like, had the twist naturally been planned out from the beginning (like the stupid mural--what the hell was that supposed to be?) it would have made more sense, but because "subverting expectation" the twist falls apart.
@@eatatjoe I thought the twist was pretty clear in fact I feel like I've seen two sides hate it one who thinks it's too obvious and others that think it's out of nowhere
it’s been said before by many a youtuber and i’ll say it again, this show would’ve been a hell of a lot better if it didn’t latch itself to steven, it wouldn’t fix everything but it would’ve answered a hell of a lot more questions in relation to the diamonds then it’s leaving up in the air, not to mention a lot of characters could’ve actually developed, you know, without steven being needed, rebecca does know that people can change without her or anybody else around right?
People give the argument that "it's called Steven Universe." 🤦♂️ This kind of story telling technique is more fit for a story about a historical event (usually war or genocide) through a young child's POV because it creates gripping dramatic irony. We already know what's going on so it's interesting when the child doesn't. It doesn't work here.
thats honestly why i dont like the show anymore, they just dumped on Rose at every opportunity. We could have had an awesome character arc flash back with Pink diamond being a selfish and naive jerk to a more caring and considerate leader. but we dont because she's dead
I love SU but it has flaws Like the Only Steven Perspective, the Diamonds recieving NO punishment and consuquenses at the end, Steven hating KEVIN and hating him more than THE DIAMONDS, its sometimes rushed, the writing is either plothole filled dogshit or absolutely beautiful, Connie, Lapis, Bismuth, Peridot, The Townies, any character aside from Steven, Greg and the 3 gems is excluded from the story and forgotten about until the plot, DEMANDS them to be here. If theres gonna be a new series/movie of SU, they should remove the Steven Only perspective and HUMANIZE AND DEVELOP THE DIAMONDS ESPECIALLY WHITE!!!! I find it a REALLY DAMN GOOD show, but sometimes the Crewniverse should get their shit together.
How comes that fans are better writers than the writers? Also, fanfics can be sometimes far better than the actual canon AND WHAT THAT FUCK WAS THE UNCLE GRANDPA CROSSOVER?
The reason this season is so rushed is because the show at the time was getting canceled but like you said they're so much padding that didn't need to be there.
You could look at it as “I followed her to free them, but I decided to stay, because it was my choice.” It’s kind of like they became friends instead of master and servant. And Rose faked her death so they would stop being wired to like the diamond. This is just speculation, but they did say in the movie that Pearl started being her own person when they lost Rose. But I feel like this reversal character arc was a whole mistake on its own. You talk about them ruining Pearl, but they literally torched Rose to the ground. They did try to teach him, but Steven is a freakin spazoid with the attention span of a peanut.
I'm told the writers wanted to do 9 seasons but they got cut short (On one hand this does explain why everything HAD to be rushed on the other hand imagine AT LEAST 2 More slow as fuck townsie filled seasons like season 3's ending was when it felt like we were starting to build towards the end )
Wait, I always thought that the Cluster was set AFTER the staged death of pink diamond. The diamond's retaliation being blowing up the planet with the Cluster instead of having a colony there. That made sense to me...
Just some feedback maybe change the picture a little bit between the summary and real talk because I nearly missed this because I thought this was the summary
Pearl's arc seems to be that of an anti-Disney Princess. Pearl's story is very similar to Cinderella. Both were trapped in a life of servitude until they snuck away one day and fell in love. Eventually both Pearl and Cinderella give up their current life to start a new chapter with their lovers. Pearl, however, has reality smack her in the face almost immediately. She loses most of her friends to the corruption attack and Rose begins dating other men on the side, which culminates in her relationship with Greg. Rose ends up having a child with Greg and basically dies in childbirth (which does happen in our world). After Rose dies, I see a few more parallels to Cinderella in Pearl's life. She and Amethyst have trouble getting along, much like how Cinderella didn't get along with her stepsisters. Though Amethyst is FAR less selfish and eventually grows closer to Pearl. Pearl also has trouble getting along with Greg and eventually make amends with him as well (I guess Greg would be the second stepsister) in this situation. A lot of people have criticized Cinderella for being so dependent on a man to save her. Pearl at first expects someone else to make her free but eventually realizes she needs to do so herself.
Please review Princess TuTu! So this thought just came to me, but for the pacifist angle I like shows like “Princess TuTu” better. The main character of that show, Duck/Ahiru, takes the same approach as Steven. Instead of fighting she talks things out mostly in each episode, but the story works in this case because the four main characters are developed and the main antagonist isn’t a space hitler.
Holy fuck I just realized the weakest of gem warriors is unbeatable by any race we have seen so there's no reason for armies what's the reason of this whole warmongering society
I wanted to ask, isn’t falling in love with your master or manipulator considered Stockholm syndrome? Definition: feelings of trust or affection felt in many cases of kidnapping or hostage-taking by a victim toward a captor. It’s kinda similar.
Is ironic how the main thing i hate about the show is it's main character But i just can't stand him The season when he was less annoying were season 2.5 to season 5
Okay, stop! Before I continue this review, I gotta ask. Why. Does. Every. Cartoon. Reviewer. Hot. As. Fuc!? And more importantly, why can't I find people like that in my living area!?! Okay. Continue
They did the same thing where they redeemed the unredeemable villain at the end. The show was fine up until the end which is sad but not as bad as Steven Universe I guess.
Season 5 is an amazing season, but I agree with you on the Steven perspective thing in the entire series because I want to see development of the other characters without having Steven always being there to witness it, we could have episodes focusing on other characters like episodes on Lars and the Off Colors escaping Homeworld and their adventures in space or an episode focusing on one of the Crystal Gems (minus Steven).
Relax we got character development,on and off Steven eyes,A and B Crystal Gems. Is the Comic Amethyst and Steven pull together 2 Gems got character development 😒😒😒 Oh Brother
You think that's bad? Look up the 'Steven Universe Concrete' for concept art of a very racist character. I've stopped following the show, because it keeps spiraling downhill and frankly, I'm just over the hiatuses and drama. edit: Just because someone judges a *show,* does *not* mean it's a personal attack on *you.* Also, it's a racist sketch, doesn't matter who drew it, if it depicts a stereotypical race in a negative and offensive way, it's not appropriate, end of story. If you're still bothered or think I'm looking for things to complain about for the sake of it, that's on you P: This is coming from someone who followed the show from the start, up until Steven Universe Future. Don't @ me. Anyone who keeps going throwing toxicity will be blocked, as certain people already have. If you want to get offended, that's your issue.
@@CraftyMaelyss I think it might be the limitation of drawing in black and white, whatever colour Concrete was SUPPOSED to be in concept, came out BLACK. Alot of the Gems have pronounced, puffy lips, but those two design choices looked bad on Concrete.
Eh. You're reading too much into it. Pearls subservience is just all of Gems response to the Diamonds writ large and on the nose. Pearl is a stand in for the whole of Gem society. They all love the Diamonds, they all serve the Diamonds. Whether that 'ruined' Pearl's character or not is up to you, but you're complaining about the basic premise of Gem society like it's a revelation.
If a Pearl only exists as a stand-in as you suggest, then it ruins the entire idea of the show. Originally Pearl was a rebel of her own free will, now she’s enslaved to the diamonds will. Now the only rebellion is Pink Diamond whatever she wants, and Pearl (and by extension the entire rebellion) diligently following her no differently than the rest of the gems follow the diamonds.
@@eugenideddis Alternatively, the story is more realistic. Rebellion is the domain of teenagers and bougie rich girls, Pearl experienced actual emotional growth instead. And as always, the first up against the wall afterwards should be the bloody-handed revolutionaries.
@@LowbrowDeluxe Too bad all that growth was undone by her being slaved to the will of her Diamond, so it calls into question how much of her rebellion was her own choosing and how much was her subconscious programming to obey her Diamond and serve her. She's shown she still hasn't moved on from Pink/Rose and has failed to truly become her own person. The Gems in Little Homeworld have learned to live for themselves, as have the Crystal Gems - but Pearl will likely never move on. Peridot is the one who we know made a conscious decision to defy her Diamond, without prompting from anyone else, she saw the value of life on Earth and took a stand for that against Yellow's express orders.
LowbrowDeluxe The gems exist in a fascist state, and you’re suggesting that the rebellion is just teenagers acting out? And you’re allowing the diamonds to be redeemed, but suggesting they execute Bismuth?
@@eugenideddisI see where you think you're coming from, but I didn't say anything about the Diamonds or Bismuth. I don't see any reason the Diamonds should have remained in power, either. As for Bismuth, I was actually referring to the Crystal Gems in general. "Oh, we didn't actually kill anyone" was a cop out in my opinion. The trauma of violent revolution extends well beyond the dead. Historically the vast majority of revolutionaries have started from positions of privilege. Wealthy land owners turned founding fathers, well off lawyers turned Mahatmas (actual non-violent revolution, not just "we didn't kill anyone so the plot says we're good," so that one gets a pass, successful physician turned college T-shirt silk screen, etc. ) Revolution, as opposed to anarchy and violent overthrow, has always been the domain of the bourgeoisie.
Imagine if Pearl didn’t know Rose was Pink. When the reveal comes, now Pearl would have to come to terms with whether she ever actually rebelled, or was simply following her diamond the entire time. Personally I think that’d make a much better story.
You should have been a writer on the show
This is why I freaking love pearl
Stop giving me excellent AUs dammit
@The Pshycho Path this is true but that why they have writing teams for shows. Some draft the story and others review who haven't worked on it so they have a fresh view and hindsight can come into play. It's not perfect but their should be a process of review through multiple people in the least
I think it would've been an interesting reveal if Spinel (or maybe just rejuvenators in general) were introduced earlier. This way, Pearl could just not know Punk was Rose. To help keep the secret, Rose would've reset Pearl.
*"When did this happen? I didn't see any of this!"*
Basically ALL of Lapis' and Lars' character development. And the Diamonds supposedly dismantling their empire and freeing all their Gems. All offscreen.
Imaging dissolving an empire in such a short time. Now imaging doing tha to an empire with a population that has hierarchy and comformity as the number 1 goal.
There is only 1 outcome to this.
The higher ranking gems will gather followers and start infighting to determin who is the new boss. If the show was even a bit reaslitic they just cause a giant civil war.
@@JeroenDoes Funny thing that idea of higher ranking gems gathering followers and start infighting to determine who is the new boss sort of happened in the most recent SU mobile game
@@alicequeenofmadness9995 I did not know that. I said it because this has always happened when an empire fell appart in real world history. See Rome, the Holy Roman Empire and especially China and Japan
There is a small plot point that the show dropped entirely.
Peridot mentioned that homeworld was having resource problems.
This is never mentioned again. What do you think about it?
Pink's sweat liquid stuff
What about the line from Peridot, "You're going to Harvest ME!?" What harvesting?
@@lonebattledroid4474 I think it's that Peridots aren't considered a high ranking gem so they're not spared as much.
Another frustrating thing about the fact that suddenly ONLY Steven can redeem someone or faciliate their character development...Is that the show USED to have good moments where he wasn't NEEDED to instigate another character's growth. Like you said where characters in this show NEVER talk out their issues unless STEVEN is there to push them to DO it..Remember the scene where Garnet and Pearl talked out their differences over the Sardonyx deception?
Or when Peridot willingly turned against Yellow Diamond? She came to that choice ON HER OWN.
The show USED to know how to have characters resolve their issues, but now HAS to be Steven who "fixes" a character.
Still it was Steven who brought up the best with them. And that makes sense, gems are not easy to change themselves.
He also bad mouth all his "friends" in future. He is a true "friend"
@@tayojones9460 Who? Only gems and while being really frustrated.
But he called amethyst stuck up. What happen to being proud of her growth? Steven is a fucking prick.
Steven might not have pushed Garnet and Pearl to make up, but the situation did.
Why did Garnet not take Pearl aside and talk to her, herself? Without the impending doom of the death trap that would have killed them if they hadn't fused to escape?
Pearl also talks over Garnet and gets in her way until they fall into that death trap. Pearl is more interested in giving Garnet every reason to forgive her, rather than give her leader the time and space to heal properly. Being sorry someone is mad at you and being sorry you hurt someone you're supposed to care for/respect are two different things.
Garnet even acts as though Pearl never hurt her in the first place after the arc is done. No tension or change in behavior.
The writing of Steven Universe has always been "Organic" in that different writers pass the script along and "go with what sounds fun" rather than what makes sense in a structure perspective. This isn't an issue with simple episodes like "Lars and the cool kids" or "Indirect Kiss" or whatever else. But episodes that have to do with trauma, abuse, slavery, etc get the same haphazard treatment and it gets really creepy really quick.
Dear lord, the bags under Chorus' eyes could hold Steven's baggage in SU Future without a sweat.
I would find this offensive if it wasn’t accurate. 😂
You didn't *really* have to do him like that 😔
Finally someone mentions how Steven Universe did Connie dirty. She had so much potential but they keep pushing her to the side. Honestly true about most gems too. Ugh this makes me so mad.
I was dissappionted with how she only does one attack against blue diamond with roses sword and the sword just breaks. Connie does nothing else in that fight with yellow and blue except ride on lion.
The biggest problem with Connie in the show is she lives in a different city. Connie has a whole life away from beach city and Steven so she can’t do anything if Steven Isn’t right next to her, but still they keep her from action and real fighting.
The main problem with Connie is that her VA contract makes her do like 4-6 episodes every season
@@abdohgamer2235 that is very big stupid. Her character writing suffers because of a contract. You should probably get another voice actor.
@@josesosa3337 I know but it's mainly Rebecca or Kat Morris fault
Lars becoming a space pirate would've been a good 4 episode spin off series.
They should have let that be the filler episodes that they insist upon
@@purpledragon1945 op I
Something I just realized:
Pink: "We're taking life and leaving nothing behind. We have to stop this!!"
**thousands of years pass with her canonically getting with humans and having multiple flings with them**
Pink when she talks to Greg: "I LOVE humans, you're all so FUNNY!!"
...Did this lady literally 'save the earth' without really understanding human emotions? Or human capability?
Did she date humans thinking of them as funny pets? And this conception got unaddressed by the other CGs for 6000 years--it literally took Greg calling her out during their dance and asking her to treat him like a real person for her to be like "Oh.....oh."
"Did this lady literally 'save the earth' without really understanding human emotions? Or human capability?
Did she date humans thinking of them as funny pets? And this conception got unaddressed by the other CGs for 6000 years--it literally took Greg calling her out during their dance and asking her to treat him like a real person for her to be like"
Few things the other CGs barely interacted with humans so their knowledge is worse than Rose aside from maybe Amethyst and she might have not even really started interacting with them until after Greg. Also the point Rose makes early on was that all life was precious so ofcourse even if she didn't think they were as capable as gems she didn't think they deserve to be slaughtered.
While true, it still feels a bit off.
Maybe this wouldn't feel so weird if such high stakes hadn't been resolved with "make your enemies blush"
@@juanpablorobayo9891
It was a little more complicated than that
The whole "storyboarders write the episode as they draw it" thing is the real issue, needed to write a script and rules beforehand.
I agree. I also think they needed to lay out the powers of each character and the rules of each of them. Like Garnets future vision, just...wow...I honestly think the show would've been A LOT better if it wasn't for children.
But it has such a positive message and shows the importance of acceptance of other people so...I'm kinda stuck.
I wish this show had more worldbilding and we knew more about homeworld.
I agree 100%.
The improved worldbuliding alone would have upgraded this show significantly.
It wouldn't fix everything but it will make the show as a whole much more interesting.
@rexsupreme1840
Indeed!
No argument there!
@rexsupreme1840 I actually think we do need some world-building of Earth because I want to know what the government is doing through all this. Was there some kind of treaty that said the gems were solely responsible for everything left behind by the war? Shouldn't humans be more aware of the gems? Shouldn't gems have a better understanding of human culture and society? Pearl once said something about humans leading insignificant lives and I thought, "bitch, they have guns. (by the way, there is a brief instance where we see guns exist) You have a spear. They can probably at least poof you."
The irony is that the show wastes so much time world building, just not in the Right Ways.
Wanna see how Lars got off the gem home world, stole/learned to fly a ship. Naw let’s watch the mayor Dewey lose his job, while Steven screws around for several weeks
I remember enjoying Avatar - The Last Airbender when I was watching it as a maybe 8-year-old, and I still love it today. Kids can understand more complex stories.
Speaking of Avatar, SU redeeming the Diamonds, but not Jasper, would be like Avatar redeeming Ozai and Azula, but not Zuko. And to add insults to injury, Zuko would still be trying to capture the Avatar to restore his honour. He'd be the Team Rocket of the show
Because avatar had good writing, animation, action choreography,likable characters, good POC rep and disabled rep ect. So basically everything SU doesn’t
I know this is a years old comment, but I've got to agree here. I grew up watching Redwall- a series about a monk boy, who goes on a quest for a famous sword, cuts a monster's head clean off, impaled a bandit lord with a ballista, _poured boiling hot liquid down a hole dug by invaders, _*_and then killed the bandit lord all over again by dropping a church bell on him._*
This was a kids show, based of a series of books, written by a sweet old man- and it unquestioningly takes its subject matter more seriously & treats it with more respect than steven universe ever did. IMO both it, and the how to train your dragon series, also originally a kids book series, handle these things SO much better.
20:42 My theory is after years of Rebecca defending Rose/Pink's actions. She gave up: "Fine If you want a villain I will give u villain"
Part of me wish: White Diamond was behind Volleyball Cracked eye. After all, she has mind powers. Not Pink
For me “Change your mind” needed to be extended over a few episodes rather than one 24 min episode
CYM was 40 minutes long but I do agree with ypur point
@@bobi200samatar6 honestly Diamond days should have been a season into itself, showing off homeworld, its culture and how the gems deal with being back
Could have had steven do some more diamond dream flashbacks to flesh out Rose's backstory and explain why she was the way she was
I agree
Rose didn't expect the Diamonds to leave because they're scared. Rose thought that because of her own relationship with the Diamonds. The Diamonds were incredibly abusive to Pink and she had NO reason to believe they cared about her at all, and because Blue _directly said to Pink_ that if she disappeared the colonization would stop. Rose's plan made the most sense from her own perspective.
I really hated change your mind. It was really, truly stupid and felt so rushed and forced that it hurt.
1) first, the diamonds. Their resolution and reformation was so unearned, like I understand blue, she just wanted pink and wanted to be whole again so she'd be willing to change but yellow took pride in ruling her colonies with an iron fist. She was stone-faced and showed very little signs of being emotionally unstable. It is completely out of her character to break down crying. It is ridiculous and feels so out of place. Also, white, oh white. She was set up as unwavering, indifferent and never changing her views. The fact that she was convicted to COMPLETELY TAKE DOWN HER ENTIRE EMPIRE because she was *EMBARRASSED* is infuriating. She thinks she is perfect and pure, she would most likely lash out, blame Steven and his friends and annihilate them completely.
2) then the fusions. I waved off rainbow 2.0. We had been introduced to rainbow quartz before so I just saw it as Steven taking what his mother's and making it his own. It fit the theme of the arc and kinda works. Sunstone made no sense. It was so hyped up because "it's garnet, the fusion character!" It felt more like a Steven and ruby fusion gone wrong. Like, where is Sapphire in this, why is it just fire? Not to mention, the design felt nothing like the characters themselves. With every fusion, you see a bit of each character, but with sunstone it's just an excuse to make a fire safety children's character. That's all she is, they even put her in SUF for that exact reason. It just hurts.
I have so much more to say but this comment is already so long, I just can't
The fact that a comeback brought down White sounds more like a joke fans would make about how awesome that comeback was and I will admit, Steven saying, "I am a child. What's your excuse?" was pretty awesome. I really feel like someone should send this show to SNL or John Oliver because it needs to really be brought to Rebecca Sugar's attention how terrible of a writer she is.
Future is all about Steven and his issues too.
Yeah
I feel cheated by Steven universe.
The promised an large scale story with homeworld and everything.
But Steven Universe really is just about a teen and his teen problems. It is about growing up and his personal relationschips.
The large evil empire? The war? Yea those are just part of the background.
@@JeroenDoes yeah it wasted all of it's potential and theorys are all wasted.
Steven in future is a betch, who only wants a perfect world for him, no matters who hurts in the process
@@JeroenDoes
The war's over though
The one thing I didn’t really like about the whole rose/ pink diamond and pearl relationship was the fact everyone was saying it was romantic and or viewing it as such when it was clearly one sided and then when a single pale rose dropped everyone took that as confirmation that they were a thing which confused me bc the only thing I saw was that rose/pink doesn’t understand people outside of herself and that in actuality she didn’t until she met Greg the only person who took the time to say wtf to the way he was being treated by her so to me anything before their relationship was always one sided to her not because she was necessarily cold hearted but she just didn’t have the understanding of other people having feelings too that are just as complex as hers
I was looking at the list of essential episodes from SU, as in non-filler episodes, do you know what I found? I found that if you were to take all the essential episodes of SU and compacted them into anime length episodes, you'd have roughly 16 episodes for everything up until the movie. That's only slightly more than a regular anime season, which is 13 episodes. That's fucking sad to think about, considering how long this series has been going, and how much of that time has been in hiatus so that they would've had ample time to make plot-relevant episodes.
Never seen Pearl around town do shopping? No. They would have to explain where the money comes from
Greg pays them
There was a funny comic about how the Gems get money....
If a gem went shopping, all hell might break loose when they enter a jewelry store
@@Anonymous-js5zn
There's actually a comic about the gems entering a jewelry store...and it's hilarious! I think Shelly Kitten dubbed it....
I just realized something. Pink Diamond is Jonas Venture done wrong!
In Venture Brothers Jonas is a dead parent who is idolized as this impossibly grand, heroic scientist legend leaving behind boots too big for the son to hope to fill. Because he left his son poorly prepared.
Slowly we learn this idol has a few flaws and curious secrets. The shows delve deeper, and deeper to reveal that they were no good at all, but monstrous.
Jonas killed ALOT of innocent people and simply used Scapegoats or buried the truth. Pink did the same.
He betrayed, and used his own friends as tools. Bribing, or simply blackmailing them to kill for him so he can keep this perfect image, while getting what he wants, like sex with his friends wife.
Jonas shows absolutely no remorse, or shame, and even boasts that he's done his victims a service when called out on it. This is where the two actually split as Pink seems to genuinely feel shame, at least. Pink is a dumbass, but portrayed as true evil, where as Jonas is an evil psychopath with damn good PR. Jonas is never out of character, SU bends over backwards to keep making Pink worse.
So what the shows do is VB allows the cast to not only admit he's done horrible things, but that he IS a monster. SU acknowledges that Pink has done horrible things, but is treated as actually worse than the other monsters who in fact worse. Yeah Pink fucked up a planet, got a ton of innocent gems killed, because she's a complete dumbass. The other 3 have several worlds each at minimum, kill the disabled/deformed, are racists, and are actually evil.
They also don't just pile on what Jonas did. It's all there, set up in the background and fully realized along the way. With Pink she did everything bad including stuff pulled out of nowhere.
There's actually even more parallels.
Pretty much every problem the shows casts have is caused by them.
They're both unintentionally killed by their sons.
They both brought the dead back to life.
There was also a moment when it seemed both of them would come back.
Seriously, it is insane...
It's really, REALLY obvious they didn't know that was going to be the final season (and didn't know they'd be getting Future.) No sane production team would have paced or spent episodes the way they did if they'd known that was the end. Even something like Legs to Homeworld would have in an earlier season been a two or three episode process just to get there, they woudn't have spent one of the final episodes on Watermelon Steven, and they definitely wouldn't have done the entire White arc from introduction to finish in half an hour, including squeezing in last minute fusions that they just never got around to.
It has all the signs that they thought they had more time, then ran out and crunched.
Still no excuse
They were renewed after change your mind. Still not an excuse
You’re right, and what’s even more annoying is the fact that they actually thought they were going to get over 7-9 seasons to bull shit the whole time. Most shows end after 5 seasons.
lars of the stars should have been a flashback episode, kind of like "ludo in the wild" meets "THE ANSWER" in fact just have that instead of your mother and mine or letters to lars. where we show lars taking up the leadership of the off colors and using their individual strengths. and they are willing to follow him because nobody's ever focused on their strengths before everyone's always focused on what's wrong with them. he can direct the fusions to use their enhanced strengths and powers to beat up some guards or use their splittiness to take some smaller patrols prisoner like topaz did to lars. maybe padparascha will "predict" that the ship that landed is special in some way. and lars could use his kamui powers to sneak everyone past some kind of security system.
instead of just having emerald briefly describe lars' exploits
Rebecca Sugar: "It's like Bruce Wayne falls in love with Alfred."
She forgets that Alfred is Batman's adoptive dad after his biological parents got killed.
So either we have a slave falling in love with her master who has psychological control over her--OR we have parent/child dynamics.
Sugar this isn't as sweet as you think it is.
It's like pointing at an abusive relationship and saying "How Romantic 😍" 🤮.
@@JB-ml4oe If you don't fight with your boyfriend it ISN'T love!!/s
Juan Pablo Robayo UNLESS you fight ALL the time, then it’s toxic and could definitely be abusive
@@JB-ml4oe
never said it was a good relationship and Batman is pretty shitty to Alfred sometimes
@@JB-ml4oe Was she abusive to Pearl though? I think Volleyball’s incident made her be like “I have to stop doing this” or something.
I mean, I think too many people are taking “they were slaves” too literally. They have their own store and spa just for rejuvenating and buying accessories.
Why couldn’t a servant and master fall in love? The class you are born into doesn’t change how your feelings toward a person manifest.
Anyway, that’s just my take on it, because other than breaking up with her for Greg, we haven’t seen specifically Pink treat specifically our Pearl in a bad way.
Their is a fan fiction story about Black Pearl who once served PD. When pink "died" Pink Pearl was devastated. She agreed to take part in an experiment to make gems more powerful. The procedure drove her mad and she became Black Pearl. The ultimate gen weapon.
Her story is dark and tragic and better than the backstory of CG pearl. Black Peark is ruthless, sadistic and very scary. The story is on youtube and it is very good. I highly reccomend. The writing is much better than the writing in the show.
Seriously I wish Black Pearl would be animated. I watch that over SU future anyway.
That fanfic sounds ridiculously edgy.
Joseph Panno take it down a couple points to get the right amount of edginess.
Regarding the whole "Steven knows nothing" problem, it's compounded not just by the fact the gems keep hiding it all from him but also that they're incredibly unreliable narrators- following episodes always come around to contradict exposition they previously dumped. So what ended up happening across this show is when they aren't lying to him about what's happened in the past and what's presently happening, they're instead just outright wrong about the facts, even from characters who logically should know better ie Garnet's future vision being entirely useless and unhelpful except for when it's needed for stupid shenanigans. Even in earlier seasons, the one time he actually blows up at them for constantly leaving him in the dark, the writing wants to insist he's out of line and being insensitive- and even when they promise to be open about things with him, that didn't carry into the following seasons when you look at how many twists and reveals kept coming from them here
There's a lack of convo among the gems is odd and Amythist the youngest one is more human than the older gems from the beginning of the war
So many stories above my age range that I understood when I was a kid. Terminator. Jurrassic park. The last airbender. Dragon ball. Children can understand order of events.
The diamonds getting redeemed is like Ozai and Horde Prime getting redeemed.
Jasper getting redeemed, is like redeeming Zuko, Azula and Catra.
The thing about the "Pearl was just following her master the entire time!" argument is that it's a concept that only works if you stop watching after A Single Pale Rose. Because not only do we know from the movie that a Pearl's loyalty is directly tied to her perception of her owner from physical appearence and name, and furthermore, from "Now We're Only Falling Apart", we know that Pearl's love for Rose only came AFTER they began the Crystal Gems, when she would imagine a world where she defected from Pink and ran away with _a Rose Quartz._
As far as Pearl's programming goes, Rose Quartz and Pink Diamond are two entirely different people.
Here's the thing after a Single Pale Rose a lot of people seem to have skipped anything that explained Rose's actions or Pearl just to justify hating Rose more
@@mikemorro140 I feel this
I guess the pearl in Rhodonite was a pearl that rebelled against her master and ran away with the gem she loves. As for our pearl. I understand this twist makes her a different character and a less inspiring one at least at the start, but she grows into that independent person and I think that's worth something would I have perfered if she wasn't pink's pearl and that pink's pearl was taken by white diamond after pink's "death" to show maybe she was torn up (Idk the diamonds I have weird feelings towards. I don't understand why pink is more demonized than the other diamonds when she's the only one that even began to understand other life had value.) Yes I would have loved rebel pearl and at first this almost ruined her for me, but I grew to appreciate her growth away from her obsession with an extremely toxic relationship with pink/rose into finding herself. Just because she's not as inspiring as she could have been I still think her story in this way has some value even if it's uncomfortable. Thanks for reading my ramble of thoughts.
The difference is blue and yellow are just following orders they know of white diamonds power if they act out or do anything against white they will lose everything and become mindless
Yes they did some messed up shit but look at it from their point of view their sister was thought to be killed by another and now that they think they can be killed the society got more strict to me at least the gems were more than likely more independent (going by that flashback to when garnet came into existence) but due to pinks action the empire became more strict
White diamond is evil to us yes but she is basically a god to them morals dont really exist to them she knew of everything and didnt care pink faked her death and she didnt tell blue and yellow this
Pink on the other hand was pretty much a spoiled brat all the time she just wants everything to be hers
At least the diamonds are trying to create more of their people and make sure they have resources
@@pixelman6193 I don't agree. As implied by future it seems pink really tried to change and even learned to heal organic life and gems. The other diamonds would likely be capable of at least some of those abilities, but never learned. Yes I understand moral relativism and the reasons the diamonds did what they did, but I still don't see a way for them to be better than pink. Pink and Rose did a lot of messes up things, but they seemed like they were trying to me. Even amongst normal gems it must have been hard to get for her to understand let alone organic life, but she tried and saw value in it. If she just wanted everything to be hers the human zoo likely would suffice, but that's not what she wanted. She appreciate Earth and how organic life lived there. She grew to understand other gems as individuals. Sure Yellow and Blue might have been scared, but they were/are bigoted as well to other gems, especially gems like the off colors, and organic life just like White. Just my 2 cents. I enjoy the diamonds, but I think Pink and Rose get an unfair wrap compared to them.
@@mattm2451 pink until greg came into her live didnt see humanity as beings on or near her level they were funny things to her just objects for her to play with
She deserves the hate imho yes she changed at the end but that doesnt erase her past
At least with blue and yellow they were just doing what they were told to do example think if someone took your family hostage or put a bomb collar on you and if you didnt say rob a bank they would kill you or your family. That's how the relationship of the diamonds and white were until steven came along
What steven did was prove to white she wasnt perfect and all knowing and that her top creations the diamonds were also flawed
Also consider that white probably taught blue and yellow that the other gems were just tools and if one acted out that tool was defective
Look at the final episode of season 5 the moment blue and yellow get the chance to they team up with steven to take on white they just on board they obviously grew to dislike how homeworld was ran
Honestly white is the main villian and still is and the only reason she probably isnt bubbled is because no one can do that to her they cant hurt her physically
It would be like adam and eve challenging god they would lose without a doubt so they have to just try to talk to white and just hope they can change her mind and keep her happy
Honestly based on that villain card for future white is either gonna lose her shit and go rouge or somehow jasper is gonna want to experience fusion again to be powerful and who else would be more perfect than the most powerful being she knows of
@@pixelman6193 Who do you think taught pink? The diamonds. I find it very flawed to think the diamonds did EVERYTHING out of fear. Yellow and Blue colonized countless planets with who knows how much life..Yellow desperately wanted the cluster to destroy the Earth, you think that was white's order? Sure Rose so humans as per like perhaps and or just curiosities to be studied like early white anthropologists, but if it wasn't for her no gems would have seen bio life as worth anything. To me her curiosity in humans, while a little condescending, wasn't malicious. Idk I understand your opinions, but I have to disagree. I am curious about how White will be used in Future.
@@mattm2451 she wanted the earth and that reminders of pink to be removed while blue embraced what was left of pink yellow wants to destroy it all
I can kinda forgive the whole planet killing since thats the only way the gem race can even grow and continue on
It would be like telling all of humanity to live on the island of hawaii and there is a big chance the majority of those planets didnt have life or that life was like dinosaurs
We just dont know i mean if it wasnt for pink the cluster wouldnt have been formed the corruption wouldnt exist and its possible that earth wouldnt even had been colonized
The diamonds didnt know that they were corrupting the gems on earth they thought they were avenging pink and there was an order to retreat we are told this some just either didnt make or just stayed behind to fight and when they came to earth the corrupted gems probably looked like earth creatures to them
BTW, they disband the colonies after CYM ,though yeah, they still needed more punishment, and at least they should've had them do it on the final scenes of CYM, instead of saying it offhand aat the beginning of the movie
I hated the Rose is Pink Diamond reveal. I feel it squandered all potential for Rose Quartz's character. You could have had a character that everyone idolized but you find out is flawed and did some bad things to get things done and worked in a lesson about how everyone makes mistakes.
Instead we got was the reveal that Pink/Rose is spoiled child, a coward and kind of a irredeemable monster. With Jasper's dialogue and actions it is hinted that Pink was sending people to fight eachother probably because she didn't want to have to deal with her older siblings. Then they keep adding more and more oh by the way your mom is a horrible person as the series went on.
And they paint the diamonds as more sympathetic. That is fucking pathetic! All the diamonds (pink included) are horrible!
@Katie Lewis exactly I would've liked that Rose was Pinks actual guard with Pearl and Pink wanted this rebellion but trusted it to those her sisters would believe in capable. I thought that's how the show was going, Pink grew in a way she could and with the way they were showing that Yellow couldve shattered her I thought maybe she did accidentally trying to get Rose as the face of this rebellion. But Pink as a last ditch of her growth from bratty to what a true leader should be shattered and or got poofed and stayed a gem. Remember that Pink gem in the chest I thought oh man that's her. But nope.
I hated it because of the squandered potential that the idea has for the show because they want to write Rose's development in reverse yet still make her out to be good.
Like, the best thing they could have done is reveal that Rose is an evil Diamond, but have the gems teach Steven that he can be a good person despite that and use his powers to *actually* help people instead of manipulating them with false kindness and sob stories.
B&B Bandito even if they didn’t do rose was pink diamond, rose is still a horrible person. Every character who had talked about her to Steven, there was never anything positive to say. I’m not including Garnet, Pearl or Amethyst because they’re irrelevant to anything that goes against their precious Rose Quartz. And even when they found out it they were mad, for like half the episode and then it was quickly swept under the rug.
@@lilmissanimatd We never actually got to find out what Rose was actually like outside of her romance with Greg. Everyone other than the crystal gems and Bismuth were enemies of Pink or were created after her and had no interaction with her. Bismuth's bubbling was the only really questionable action other than not telling everyone everything and supposedly shattering pink. They had the opportunity to make her a flawed and compelling character that could have taught Steven a lesson about continuing to improve despite your mistakes. Instead we got a large pink plot device that turns into a what a twist moment that suprised no one replaces all character development with 6 mins of She was just misunderstood and a tidbit of expository dialogue before Steven has to motivated to move the plot along.
I always found it strange that the gems have forms of entertainment despite the show building up that each gem is just a nameless tool to be used and the utilitarianism of the gems just made the home world episodes strange.
All for it with the diamonds. I super hated they got turned into uwu they were sad cuz Pink they arent bad at all, they just thought they were right. Like hmmm okay. I wish pink wasnt rose cuz it would show pink in herself was ready to give her life for her cause and her rose quartz and pearl was her hope for her rebellion. That or Pink did lose her form and reformed back as something akin to a new gem that was similar look to a RQ. Not that she fake shattered just disappeared without a trace with pearl and her other rose quartz. Though I hate that we cant have her around or more episodes with her growing as a person on earth to make her decision to have steven with Greg. She obviously changed at that point but I HATE THEY KEEP MAKING PINK THE CRUX OF ISSUES. The shows a one trick pony cuz she is missing her development that the diamonds are taking from her. They literally dont deserve the moments she should be getting. Like Steven having a moment to talk to her through his gem. She is her gem and they should be able to talk and have a final let go as mother and son it's so dumb.
*[The end isn't over...]*
The worst thing about the show are how awful the main characters are. Connie should have been the main character along with Peridot, Bismuth and Lapis
It's sad bc its true, they had one of the best "filler" episodes if not one of the best one in the season.
The crystal temps!
Connie is bland as shit.
Agree with the other three, though.
@@BinguDingus I miss when connie was a mysterious charater
@@BinguDingus I think that's because after Nightmare Hospital they didn't really give her any character growth other than in one instance in Mindful Education. She was turned into a person that was kinda just there to fuse with Steven when the stakes got higher
I knew Rose was Pink from the start since I put two and two together once my friends said, there’s a twist with the diamonds. So I went in knowing that and still really enjoyed Rose.
I think that she is a great character as she is seen through bias from every character, all the crystal gems and even the homeworld gems have different opinions, I liked the mystery on who she really was. Everyone in the show sees her through (excuse the pun) Rose Coloured Glasses.
A lot of people say the twist ruins her character, I can see that but I enjoy that we see her development backwards. She starts being good and we see slowly that she’s more grey and then mostly evil. I wish we got more from her to be honest.
I’d love to hear other opinions.
I like it, but I *LOATHE* how it's executed because the moral isn't "everyone makes mistakes," it's "this person is manipulatively evil specifically and so it gives us carte blanche to torture her offspring and ignore her family's crimes while beating her corpse into the floorboards instead of addressing it while she was alive and giving her servants therapy."
It isn’t the twist that ruins, it’s the reverse development... It’s like “White Diamond was Hitler, but Pink is the Super Devil, who carries around a jar of marmalade that forces you to obey” or something like that. Every time we see her, she gets worse, and it’s like... you’re supposed to upset Steven by saying “mom sucks” not the audience. You can’t bait and switch the audience for 5 years. It feels like a betrayal from the writers rather than the character.
Why did they only focus on how Connie felt? Was Greg/ Crystal Gems ok with Steven sacrificing himself? And the solution to the arc was they'll stick together and do everything together. Wait so in Future when Steven wanted to be Stevonnie forever wasn't he just doing what Connie wanted?
Pacifism also doesn’t work for a character that’s never had to fight to survive. It kind of just shows privileged. Steven grew up in a completely safe and loving environment, with three moms and a dad taking care of him.
I almost wish that there was a Greg x Pearl ship. You know, just to give both characters the development they deserve.
That honestly would be good heck have greg fall for that mega pearl fusion
They could bond over the love of rose/pink all of them seeing a different side of her
Honestly Greg deserves so much more screentime and he doesn't do enough.
He just drives the van, loves steven like a dad should, has to deal with Pearl hating him for years until his son basically begs both of them to reconcile, and (I can't believe people seem to forget) got seduced by Amethyst transforming into his dead wife.
And it's implied that he doesn't want her "to do this to me **again** "
Amethyst did that more than once to Greg and all she had to do for him to forgive her was to buy him a seashell-themed picture frame for the picture of him with the woman she was copying.
Incredible writing
The Steven-Only POV is why we never got a Peridot / Tiny Floating Whale team-up episode, probably. Okay, okay, maybe not, but how excruciatingly cute would that have been?
Also what makes the slave thing worse is that Garnet never has another word that doesn't involve fusion. It's all she talks about. Not to mention, the show built up Homeworld so much that when we finally saw it it just sucked hard.
Yah it's very obvious that they had no idea what to do with a lot of their characters and threats they introduced so they waste episodes.
Also imo Future is worse. I just can't watch it since it's just bad and the first time the show made me cringe constantly.
Cala Maria Future is awful, I can barely watch it either . For some reason Steven is the self righteous, I have to fix everything “leader” now and the gems act like children instead of beings that have lived for centuries. They keep throwing around that Steven has PTSD but I don’t know why he has it. They barely fought on this show, he never loses and nothing major/traumatic happens that could possibly change the way he acts or his way of thinking that extreme. And he’s supposed to be going through puberty bc he’s 16 but he was already a teen when the show started so he should have already been going through these “changes.” So over 5 seasons were supposed to be in a 2 year span on the show
I think Rose could have been a far better use showing the progress of the diamonds. She clearly isn't the best person, in fact she is still a terrible person. She still sees life as being beneath her, doesn't understand other's point of view, and still commanded everyone that she could with out explaining the why. But, she is still far better than the other diamonds. Steven could have showed them Rose's actions and show them that they aren't united. This could have led to them wanting to see other points of view since they were able to change Rose's mind. They could have stayed in power, and just stopped being gem nazis. It would be a better way of showing a shift in personality, Blue Diamond could shift the most with the regret of her actions, White could have been the staunch defender of their actions but still listen, and Yellow could be the in between.
What I think happened was that Rose was ALWAYS supposed to be Pink Diamond, but when people started making Theory and Speculation videos (this is after FNAF when people would tear apart every little minute detail of anything to try and piece together any half-assed theory) Rebecca was like, “Oh no, they’ve already figured out my twist!” So she then adjusted Rose to make it seem like there was NO POSSIBLE WAY for her to be Pink Diamond. “Ya’ll are DUMB for even THINKING that stupid theory!” And completely destroyed Rose’s character just so she could be all! “Just kidding! Rose is Pink LOL”
I hate that...like, had the twist naturally been planned out from the beginning (like the stupid mural--what the hell was that supposed to be?) it would have made more sense, but because "subverting expectation" the twist falls apart.
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I thought the twist was pretty clear in fact I feel like I've seen two sides hate it one who thinks it's too obvious and others that think it's out of nowhere
it’s been said before by many a youtuber and i’ll say it again, this show would’ve been a hell of a lot better if it didn’t latch itself to steven, it wouldn’t fix everything but it would’ve answered a hell of a lot more questions in relation to the diamonds then it’s leaving up in the air, not to mention a lot of characters could’ve actually developed, you know, without steven being needed, rebecca does know that people can change without her or anybody else around right?
People give the argument that "it's called Steven Universe." 🤦♂️ This kind of story telling technique is more fit for a story about a historical event (usually war or genocide) through a young child's POV because it creates gripping dramatic irony. We already know what's going on so it's interesting when the child doesn't. It doesn't work here.
Come on writers, Volleyball was right there! Volleyball was already pink pearl.
thats honestly why i dont like the show anymore, they just dumped on Rose at every opportunity. We could have had an awesome character arc flash back with Pink diamond being a selfish and naive jerk to a more caring and considerate leader. but we dont because she's dead
I love SU but it has flaws
Like the Only Steven Perspective, the Diamonds recieving NO punishment and consuquenses at the end, Steven hating KEVIN and hating him more than THE DIAMONDS, its sometimes rushed, the writing is either plothole filled dogshit or absolutely beautiful, Connie, Lapis, Bismuth, Peridot, The Townies, any character aside from Steven, Greg and the 3 gems is excluded from the story and forgotten about until the plot, DEMANDS them to be here.
If theres gonna be a new series/movie of SU, they should remove the Steven Only perspective and HUMANIZE AND DEVELOP THE DIAMONDS ESPECIALLY WHITE!!!!
I find it a REALLY DAMN GOOD show, but sometimes the Crewniverse should get their shit together.
If I ever get to meet Rebecca Sugar, I'd lay out all the problems with her show and try to see if I can have permission to remake it.
You should do a video reacting to the movie!
He said he will
Y'all should read Little Rebellions on AO3. It's a great exploration of other Pearls on Homeworld and an interesting AU.
How comes that fans are better writers than the writers?
Also, fanfics can be sometimes far better than the actual canon
AND WHAT THAT FUCK WAS THE UNCLE GRANDPA CROSSOVER?
you look like penn badgely with straight teeth
. Lol adding that to the list
H3H3
Michael Buble
Adam Scott
Billy Russo
Penn Badgley
Sarcastic Chorus hahaha 😂 the list is getting longer
The reason this season is so rushed is because the show at the time was getting canceled but like you said they're so much padding that didn't need to be there.
You could look at it as “I followed her to free them, but I decided to stay, because it was my choice.” It’s kind of like they became friends instead of master and servant. And Rose faked her death so they would stop being wired to like the diamond.
This is just speculation, but they did say in the movie that Pearl started being her own person when they lost Rose. But I feel like this reversal character arc was a whole mistake on its own. You talk about them ruining Pearl, but they literally torched Rose to the ground.
They did try to teach him, but Steven is a freakin spazoid with the attention span of a peanut.
Could Connie become immortal if she fuses with Steven whenever she gets old and they age themselves down.
I'm told the writers wanted to do 9 seasons but they got cut short (On one hand this does explain why everything HAD to be rushed on the other hand imagine AT LEAST 2 More slow as fuck townsie filled seasons like season 3's ending was when it felt like we were starting to build towards the end )
Wait, I always thought that the Cluster was set AFTER the staged death of pink diamond. The diamond's retaliation being blowing up the planet with the Cluster instead of having a colony there. That made sense to me...
Maybe in the end Steven is bad, like he still has "diamond" qualities from Rose's gem and his toxic qualities are seeping through maybe not though
Are you going to watch the movie
Or the epilog series/Steven Universe season 6/Steven Universe future
I loved season 5
No if she falls in love with her master, that's SNM
Just some feedback maybe change the picture a little bit between the summary and real talk because I nearly missed this because I thought this was the summary
*cries* but the wedding
Changes nothing
Purple dragon 19 *shaking with anger* yeah you’re probably right
Pearl's arc seems to be that of an anti-Disney Princess.
Pearl's story is very similar to Cinderella. Both were trapped in a life of servitude until they snuck away one day and fell in love. Eventually both Pearl and Cinderella give up their current life to start a new chapter with their lovers.
Pearl, however, has reality smack her in the face almost immediately. She loses most of her friends to the corruption attack and Rose begins dating other men on the side, which culminates in her relationship with Greg. Rose ends up having a child with Greg and basically dies in childbirth (which does happen in our world).
After Rose dies, I see a few more parallels to Cinderella in Pearl's life. She and Amethyst have trouble getting along, much like how Cinderella didn't get along with her stepsisters. Though Amethyst is FAR less selfish and eventually grows closer to Pearl. Pearl also has trouble getting along with Greg and eventually make amends with him as well (I guess Greg would be the second stepsister) in this situation.
A lot of people have criticized Cinderella for being so dependent on a man to save her. Pearl at first expects someone else to make her free but eventually realizes she needs to do so herself.
Please review Princess TuTu! So this thought just came to me, but for the pacifist angle I like shows like “Princess TuTu” better. The main character of that show, Duck/Ahiru, takes the same approach as Steven. Instead of fighting she talks things out mostly in each episode, but the story works in this case because the four main characters are developed and the main antagonist isn’t a space hitler.
Maybe you should keep random images over narration. See a real person looking at me through the screen is horrifying
Holy fuck I just realized the weakest of gem warriors is unbeatable by any race we have seen so there's no reason for armies what's the reason of this whole warmongering society
I mean we have nukes but still have armies
I wanted to ask, isn’t falling in love with your master or manipulator considered Stockholm syndrome? Definition: feelings of trust or affection felt in many cases of kidnapping or hostage-taking by a victim toward a captor. It’s kinda similar.
Kinda ruined pearl’s character, but I still love her. Peridot, lapis and pearl are my favorite gems
Is ironic how the main thing i hate about the show is it's main character
But i just can't stand him
The season when he was less annoying were season 2.5 to season 5
Scores real talk
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And this one hits really really hard.
Ur hella handsome mr sarcasm 😳
Lars of The Stars Spin-off, pls... without Steven, please. New people please. No Steven 3.0
I’d sadly watch that. Sadly cause I still know what it’s tied to, and how it ultimately ends
Okay, stop! Before I continue this review, I gotta ask.
Why. Does. Every. Cartoon. Reviewer. Hot. As. Fuc!?
And more importantly, why can't I find people like that in my living area!?!
Okay. Continue
Ok K.O. did some of these things much better than Steven universe did.
They did the same thing where they redeemed the unredeemable villain at the end. The show was fine up until the end which is sad but not as bad as Steven Universe I guess.
@@JB-ml4oe wait. i don't think pv was properly redeemed.
@@cosmicdib4823 They didn't redeem Professor Venomous, they redeemed T.K.O.
@@JB-ml4oe ohhh! yeah, they did.
Season 5 is an amazing season, but I agree with you on the Steven perspective thing in the entire series because I want to see development of the other characters without having Steven always being there to witness it, we could have episodes focusing on other characters like episodes on Lars and the Off Colors escaping Homeworld and their adventures in space or an episode focusing on one of the Crystal Gems (minus Steven).
Lars is my favorite haha. I love that he sucks.
Relax we got character development,on and off Steven eyes,A and B Crystal Gems. Is the Comic
Amethyst and Steven pull together 2 Gems got character development 😒😒😒 Oh Brother
You think that's bad? Look up the 'Steven Universe Concrete' for concept art of a very racist character.
I've stopped following the show, because it keeps spiraling downhill and frankly, I'm just over the
hiatuses and drama.
edit:
Just because someone judges a *show,* does *not* mean it's a personal attack on *you.*
Also, it's a racist sketch, doesn't matter who drew it, if it depicts a stereotypical race in a negative and offensive way,
it's not appropriate, end of story. If you're still bothered or think I'm looking for things to complain about for the sake of it, that's on you P:
This is coming from someone who followed the show from the start, up until Steven Universe Future.
Don't @ me.
Anyone who keeps going throwing toxicity will be blocked, as certain people already have. If you want to get offended, that's your issue.
I think you mean "Concrete" if you mean the concept art Gem who looked like she had blackface.
That concept art is the least of the show's issues.I personally would accept Concrete over the sludge we're given now.
@@PlanetZoidstar That's the one, thank you.
I still can't believe anyone thought that was okay at all.
CraftyMaelyss A black guy was the one who drew that, but sure, stay mad :s
@@CraftyMaelyss I think it might be the limitation of drawing in black and white, whatever colour Concrete was SUPPOSED to be in concept, came out BLACK. Alot of the Gems have pronounced, puffy lips, but those two design choices looked bad on Concrete.
Again, future calls most of these issues out. ESPECIALLY pearl and pink’s past.
I think the main problem with people saying future "addresses" the problems is BS because again they had FIVE SEASONS to address issues.
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The reveal only happened in the last season so they didn't
Eh. You're reading too much into it. Pearls subservience is just all of Gems response to the Diamonds writ large and on the nose. Pearl is a stand in for the whole of Gem society. They all love the Diamonds, they all serve the Diamonds. Whether that 'ruined' Pearl's character or not is up to you, but you're complaining about the basic premise of Gem society like it's a revelation.
If a Pearl only exists as a stand-in as you suggest, then it ruins the entire idea of the show. Originally Pearl was a rebel of her own free will, now she’s enslaved to the diamonds will. Now the only rebellion is Pink Diamond whatever she wants, and Pearl (and by extension the entire rebellion) diligently following her no differently than the rest of the gems follow the diamonds.
@@eugenideddis Alternatively, the story is more realistic. Rebellion is the domain of teenagers and bougie rich girls, Pearl experienced actual emotional growth instead. And as always, the first up against the wall afterwards should be the bloody-handed revolutionaries.
@@LowbrowDeluxe Too bad all that growth was undone by her being slaved to the will of her Diamond, so it calls into question how much of her rebellion was her own choosing and how much was her subconscious programming to obey her Diamond and serve her. She's shown she still hasn't moved on from Pink/Rose and has failed to truly become her own person. The Gems in Little Homeworld have learned to live for themselves, as have the Crystal Gems - but Pearl will likely never move on.
Peridot is the one who we know made a conscious decision to defy her Diamond, without prompting from anyone else, she saw the value of life on Earth and took a stand for that against Yellow's express orders.
LowbrowDeluxe The gems exist in a fascist state, and you’re suggesting that the rebellion is just teenagers acting out? And you’re allowing the diamonds to be redeemed, but suggesting they execute Bismuth?
@@eugenideddisI see where you think you're coming from, but I didn't say anything about the Diamonds or Bismuth. I don't see any reason the Diamonds should have remained in power, either. As for Bismuth, I was actually referring to the Crystal Gems in general. "Oh, we didn't actually kill anyone" was a cop out in my opinion. The trauma of violent revolution extends well beyond the dead. Historically the vast majority of revolutionaries have started from positions of privilege. Wealthy land owners turned founding fathers, well off lawyers turned Mahatmas (actual non-violent revolution, not just "we didn't kill anyone so the plot says we're good," so that one gets a pass, successful physician turned college T-shirt silk screen, etc. ) Revolution, as opposed to anarchy and violent overthrow, has always been the domain of the bourgeoisie.