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  • @copywright5635
    @copywright5635  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +782

    If you were confused about Asano's Method. I Made a video covering it in depth on Patreon (it's free and public).
    I just posted it on there as it isn't the content I want on the main YT Channel.
    www.patreon.com/Phanimations
    Look for the video titled "Asano Method". And if you like it and want to support me... well I won't complain. But seriously, keep your money unless you really want to give it to me. Thanks!

    • @PhillipAmthor
      @PhillipAmthor 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Does this also account for the free space which cant be occupied from any sphere because it would Intersect with another sphere or is this space irrelevant?

    • @MelvinSowah
      @MelvinSowah 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      ​@@PhillipAmthorthe spheres themselves are irrelevant. They are there just to represent the points we're interested in. This confused me as well: the point of making the spheres so big was to make it easier to show that the size of the domains of each point are the same, and therefore the sum of the intersections of the domains with the cube is equal to the domain of the center point

    • @SK-Rocks-y8r
      @SK-Rocks-y8r หลายเดือนก่อน

      It is more like the Cristal structure we studied in college

  • @Wulk
    @Wulk 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11642

    Math getting so difficult you need the power of friendship to solve it 💀

    • @NiLi_
      @NiLi_ 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +381

      that's called cheating xD

    • @ShoreyardAri
      @ShoreyardAri 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +372

      University math classes call it the study group.

    • @dissonanceparadiddle
      @dissonanceparadiddle 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +116

      @@NiLi_ that's called academia and publishing papers built on the shoulders of other papers. TRUE collegiate studies and not the high school 2 student debt boogaloo is about further humanity's knowledge. True, you learn how to learn as a bachelor, but that then prepares you to learn things that have never been known before by any one person.

    • @Paulo594
      @Paulo594 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

      I know a lot of people that only graduated because of the power of friendship *wink wink*

    • @ookjannesplanting1296
      @ookjannesplanting1296 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      Yea it took Newton and Leibniz working together to invent calculus

  • @beast7842
    @beast7842 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6294

    "Karma literally solves a math problem with the power of friendship"
    HAHAHAHA anime's power of friendship strikes again.

    • @ibrahimihsan2090
      @ibrahimihsan2090 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +143

      Except here, it makes total sense.
      It's not a power up, it's just a changed mindset.

    • @blacklight683
      @blacklight683 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      I read that exsactly as he was saying it, the power of friendship ship is too powerful

    • @hiddendrifts
      @hiddendrifts 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

      @@ibrahimihsan2090 it's really funny how well this demonstrates the power of perspective. nothing changes, it's just two different ways of approaching a problem, one dramatically more efficient than the other

    • @ibrahimihsan2090
      @ibrahimihsan2090 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@hiddendrifts You know it.

  • @ultrio325
    @ultrio325 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4812

    I straight up do not remember this episode of Assasination Classroom, and I absolutely hate that I can't remember this masterpiece of an episode

    • @copywright5635
      @copywright5635  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +401

      @@ultrio325 time for a rewatch?

    • @detaggable9271
      @detaggable9271 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      ULTRIO WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE

    • @suwacco
      @suwacco 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@detaggable9271 what are you doing here too? (mint)

    • @detaggable9271
      @detaggable9271 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      @@suwacco i never found an explanation for the final problem in ansakyou that i could understand so i watched this and i finally understand 😭😭

    • @roylim1169
      @roylim1169 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      same here bud, I was so young and dumb with shounen brain rot, I could not process this absolute marvel of math + story telling

  • @noo6423
    @noo6423 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2250

    The way karma put it was so easy to understand, second you showed the infinite lattice I immediately understood what he meant by that and it just clicked, that’s genius of the show

    • @Bruhecc
      @Bruhecc 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      I know! Really makes me want to read and watch it one more time

    • @Mutrax4706
      @Mutrax4706 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      i didnt realise it till a little after

    • @pyropulseIXXI
      @pyropulseIXXI 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      There is no genius here or in the show

  • @sorrynotsorry2573
    @sorrynotsorry2573 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2910

    I was so lost and never understood that

    • @copywright5635
      @copywright5635  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +257

      I'm sorry, it is something that's a little difficult to comprehend, especially in 3D. Try to understand the 2D example first, then move upwards.

    • @kazukawasaki97
      @kazukawasaki97 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      ​​@@copywright5635so instead of doing 1/2×(a/2)²×4, understanding the real area under question is just the entire lattic's /2 directly simplifies to a²/2, which is not that different in 2d, but in 3d dealing with pyramids and weird wedges, a cube is way simpler,so cool you picked this eg
      you not only gave me the thrikl but also the motivation to check this anime out as well

    • @kinfthaderp5045
      @kinfthaderp5045 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +136

      @@copywright5635 i don't really wanna speak for others, but i think they meant the past tense, your video is a great explanation and visualization :)

    • @yumyum366
      @yumyum366 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

      @@copywright5635 I honestly don't remember learning this and was lost the second "domain" was brought up and brushed over like it was an understood term.
      I remember taking Calc I, Calc II in college, and don't remember learning anything like this before.

    • @K1nighty
      @K1nighty 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      ⁠@@yumyum366I can tell you this was not a topic in calculus 1 or 2. Maybe in higher division math classes

  • @TVISE
    @TVISE 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +929

    I never expected any show to actually incorporate any math accurately and also being related to the plot of the show. I think the author noticed this problem first, and then decided to make the entire show around it, it's just that good. Thanks for making a video on it.

    • @RobinClower
      @RobinClower 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

      Futurama and the Simpsons are both written by a bunch of mathematicians. Futurama has an episode involving body swapping (where you can't swap with a person twice) that they wrote a mathematical proof that you need at most 2 extra people to ensure everybody gets back to their own bodies.

    • @hiiprocrastinate6138
      @hiiprocrastinate6138 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      as far as i remember in the physical manga the author said he asked someone to make a problem that can be solved with just middle schooler's math knowledge but is hard enough to be college level, still amazing that he can link the method to solving it to the characters though

  • @haveiszalfaroqie1628
    @haveiszalfaroqie1628 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +818

    First animator vs. geometry, and now a nostalgic trip back to an old masterpiece. What a time to be a nerd.

    • @chilyfun9067
      @chilyfun9067 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      more like anime vs. geometry

    • @lailoutherand
      @lailoutherand 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@chilyfun9067bro 😭😭

    • @LordOfBananans
      @LordOfBananans 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Holy yap

    • @noaag
      @noaag 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@LordOfBananansSomeone woke up under the wrong side of the bridge 😂 Jealous you don't feel included as a math nerd or something?

    • @LordOfBananans
      @LordOfBananans 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@noaag yez ;-;

  • @nonbread7911
    @nonbread7911 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1102

    AssClass holds a special place in my heart, thank you for explaining one of Karma's biggest flexes

    • @zkte
      @zkte 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +441

      AssClass 💀

    • @st.altair4936
      @st.altair4936 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +334

      Please never call it "AssClass" ever again 💀💀
      If you need to abbreviate it just say AC, though that does get confusing

    • @Th3-WhOwOl3y-TrEeNiT3a
      @Th3-WhOwOl3y-TrEeNiT3a 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +231

      Do not cook again.

    • @detectivefischer6396
      @detectivefischer6396 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +122

      That looks like a gay movie title

    • @nonbread7911
      @nonbread7911 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +110

      aint my problem none of you have ever seen it called assclass lmao

  • @nanamacapagal8342
    @nanamacapagal8342 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2448

    Absolutely love it when something as innocuous as a math problem completely shows how different characters think, not just in the way they do math but also in the way they act.
    BTW, final question w/answer:
    ASANO (Bisecting Lines)
    The length between points is a, and the length of each bisector is sqrt(3)a. Since the bisected points form an equilateral triangle, the area is 1/2 * b * h = 1/2 * sqrt(3)a * 3a/2 = 3sqrt(3)/4 * a^2.
    KARMA (Symmetry)
    Because the points lie on a hexagonal lattice, each domain around every point is symmetrical.
    Because of the symmetry of the setup and the nature of bisecting, the area closer to any blue point surrounding the "center" takes up exactly the same amount of space as the area closer to the center.
    For the area in question, consider adding extra red points inside each hexagon, so the grid becomes triangular. The distance between a red and blue point is the same as the distance between two blue points: a. The area of a bounding hexagon with 3 blue points outside and one blue point inside is 6 equilateral triangles with area sqrt(3)/4 * a^2, so 3sqrt(3)/2 * a.
    Half of that would be 3sqrt(3)/4 * a.
    BONUS:
    You can use a similar trick to figure out the volume of a rhombic dodecahedron. This solid tiles 3d space, because it's essentially the inside-out of a cube with 6 of its corners at the "centers" and the other 8 at "corners". If you tile 3d space this way you still get a grid of corners, but only half of the cubes formed by those corners also have centers. Its area is therefore 2 * the area of the cube.
    The edges of said cube are the long diagonals of each rhombus face, and the side length of the rhombus faces are the distance from the corner of the cube to the center.
    If the side of a rhombus face is a, the side of its long diagonal is 2sqrt(3)/3 * a, and the area of the solid is 16sqrt(3)/9 * a^3.

    • @copywright5635
      @copywright5635  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +159

      Pinned!
      You noticed a similar symmetry with the rhombic dodecahedron.
      I'm not sure if you know this, but the shape in the video is referred to as a truncated octahedron (you can see this as it's an octahedron with the corners shaved off at 1/3 the side length). We found it's volume by utilizing the fact that it's the Wigner Seitz cell for the lattice in this example, this is referred to as a BCC (Or body centered cubic lattice).
      For the rhombic dodecahedron you mentioned, it's actually the Wigner Seitz cell for another very common lattice called the FCC lattice, which actually has optimal packing in 3D space. These spaces as I mentioned are very important in crystallography, so bravo for mentioning it. I'm probably going to do a short on this exact topic sometime in the near future.
      Very Nice!

    • @jin_cotl
      @jin_cotl 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

      You had me absolutely tweaking when I saw your equations 😊

    • @Pyonner
      @Pyonner 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Yeah

    • @mogaming163
      @mogaming163 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      I assume for karma’s method you forgot to include ^2 for the last 2 equations of the paragraph?

    • @nanamacapagal8342
      @nanamacapagal8342 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@mogaming163 yes

  • @Gidiotic
    @Gidiotic 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +535

    when the youtuber likes math

    • @copywright5635
      @copywright5635  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +93

      Well I won't deny it...

    • @Aliaska9816
      @Aliaska9816 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      when the viewer likes math

  • @leiii05
    @leiii05 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +203

    The test scenes were one of my favorites in the anime bc holy fucking shit how did you make an analogy of solving math akin to FIGHTING A MONSTER IN A COLISEUM

    • @rexellerainbow1173
      @rexellerainbow1173 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I KNOW RIGHTTT now every time i have a math test i keep thinking about those scenes lmaoo

  • @Taedrin
    @Taedrin 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +389

    Blowing up the dots had me confused at first, because I thought you were saying that the shape of the domain was circular/spherical under Karma's method, which is inconsistent with the complex shape under Asano's brute-force method. What made it easier for me to understand was realizing that under Karma's method, you don't have to care about the actual shape of the domain at all.

    • @Bryan-ep4qj
      @Bryan-ep4qj 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      I was wondering about the same thing. I was wondering how the spheres can be working if there is space in-between. I just understood it because of your comment

    • @ikeu6433
      @ikeu6433 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I was staring at the screen for like 10 minutes before I came to this conclusion 😂 bruh I was flustered.

    • @perrolmao
      @perrolmao หลายเดือนก่อน

      because regardless of the size of a person's domain (life) it will still be a corner to someone else's domain (life)

  • @CielArtem
    @CielArtem 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +477

    I'm way too dumb to understand any of this, but good job either way

    • @OatmealTheCrazy
      @OatmealTheCrazy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      Basically, find a point where no other center/corner of a square/cube is closer to yours' center (or any center)
      Gonna proceed for only square though.
      This will always be the midpoint between the two points because anywhere else is closer to one.
      if you focus only on one quarter of a square and draw where each is equally close, you just make a line down the middle and split it into two triangles.
      so, you literally only lose half of the area of that quarter, and that's true for every quarter
      so, the answer is half the area... or (the area)/2
      in the video that's a cube with side length a
      so (a^3)/2 since cube area is a^3

    • @mrowlsss
      @mrowlsss 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@OatmealTheCrazywhat is the math problem here

    • @greentea_DP
      @greentea_DP 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      ​@@mrowlsss you're a center in a square, calculate area that are nearer to you more than the 4 corner of the square.
      Karma realize that the area that are nearer to a single corner only has a volume of 1/4th compare to his own, 4 of those corner will finally make it so it has the same volume as you, which is why in the anime he say he takes half the square and the "you" (corners) take half the square. which make it a^3(total area of a square) divided by half!

  • @hiddendrifts
    @hiddendrifts 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +173

    7:35 there's nothing "wrong" with brute forcing a problem, but i believe the point is how effective karma's solution is. simple and efficient, meanwhile asano's is complicated and time consuming. it's a really great message about the power of perspective, how approaching a problem from a different angle can yield much better solutions

  • @Righthand_
    @Righthand_ 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

    The fact that both of them are middle schoolers. I cannot comprehend their genius mindsets

    • @sabin1999
      @sabin1999 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      THEY ARE MIDDLE SCHOOLERS

  • @MathematicFanatic
    @MathematicFanatic 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +222

    This is absolutely gorgeous!! I am pleased I found the symmetry solution because I could not fathom the shape of the region. What a beautiful and interesting shape! And I suppose they tesselate perfectly in a sort of doubled up cubic lattice! Very very nice excellent content to watch on youtube

    • @copywright5635
      @copywright5635  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      Yes thank you so much! I didn't mention it, but if you look at the geometry calculation I do on paper, you'll see that the shape is actually an Octohedron with the points cut off at 1/3 of the edge length.
      This shape is actually super important in Crystallography and Solid State physics, as I mentioned it's referred to as the Wigner Seitz cell. In reciprocal space (or k-space), which I also did a video on, it forms what's referred to as the 1st Brillouin Zone.
      Here's a good video by david miller about it.
      th-cam.com/video/gYX90XMdXqM/w-d-xo.html
      It's also a nice little exercise to try to prove that it is the smallest volume that can tesselate a given lattice (though not necessarily the only shape). Honestly, I think it's pretty cool that this show, which has nothing to do with math, includes such an interesting problem. Cheers!

  • @Devoidy
    @Devoidy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +124

    7:08 evangelion reference

    • @copywright5635
      @copywright5635  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      @@Devoidy ayyy first one to notice it

    • @kamilocastillo5816
      @kamilocastillo5816 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      True, the "omedetou" flew* above my head

    • @marselo1316
      @marselo1316 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Congratulations! Congratulations! Congratulations! Congratulations!

  • @TheRedBeet
    @TheRedBeet 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +46

    1:28 Expansion

    • @LionSnob
      @LionSnob 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Nah I'd win

    • @konchu4u608
      @konchu4u608 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I saw this comment as soon as he said domain lol

    • @creeperfun12
      @creeperfun12 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have no idea about what this video is about and was looking for this

  • @Kofhiliphus
    @Kofhiliphus 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +151

    As much as I hate math, Geometry definitely took me into a deep fascination into it.
    The visualization just made it easier to see numbers and dimensions.
    So when I first watched the episode back from 2018. I was so immersed in the visual representation of the test.
    But when I rewatched the anime in 2023, I became more intrigue by this newly found knowledge as I grew up.
    It is very funny that this video was specifically in my recommended.

    • @lunyxappocalypse7071
      @lunyxappocalypse7071 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We often are taught route learning first, so enthusiastic learning is difficult.

  • @DeadlyBlaze
    @DeadlyBlaze 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +561

    Easier solution: We know the domain is the same for each volume. Therefore the volume of one will be the total volume divided by the number of atoms The lattice is essentially two cubic lattices imposed on each other, meaning the atoms are packed twice as dense. The volume of each atom in a cubic lattice is a^3 and so our final volume is a^3/2

    • @copywright5635
      @copywright5635  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +171

      Yes of course, this is a clever solution. It is however not as easily generalizable to other lattices.

    • @prigoryan
      @prigoryan 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      ​@@copywright5635Really? I thought it generalizes quite nicely.
      To use the hexagonal lattice example from the video, each hexagon has 6 vertices, and each vertex is shared by three hexagons, which means that there are two points per each hexagon in the lattice. Since the domain of each point has the same area, its area should be half the area of a single hexagon, or 3sqrt(3)/4 * a^2.
      This method should work for any lattice where domains of each point have the same area/volume.

    • @copywright5635
      @copywright5635  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

      @@prigoryan well yes, that’s exactly the argument made in the video. OP had a nice solution as well, honesty they’re just all slight variations on the symmetrical theme

    • @prigoryan
      @prigoryan 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      @@copywright5635 sure, I was just a little confused as to why you said it wasn't as easily generalizable

    • @the_lazy_hat
      @the_lazy_hat 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      That is kind of solution which immediately struck on me when I saw the answer is a^3/2, but your solution is incomplete. The problem is you can't consider infinite number of particles since such lattice would have infinite volume and you can't draw conclusions by dividing infinity in 2 equal parts. So you have to consider finite number of particles. But there is no way to just pick some finite number of particles that all requested bodies around them form cube with side a*n for some natural n. I see 2 ways to go around that:
      1. You may consider 1 lattice of n^3 particles and other lattice of n^3 particles shifted by 0.5a by each axis. To prove that sum of requested bodies for them is exactly (na)^3 you need to state that their cumulative volume is equal to volume of cube with side of a*n. For this you need to consider protruding volume on half facets of n*a cube and lacking volume on opposing facets and see, that they are equal. It is not easy to see and ultimately will lead to solution similar to solution number 2 in the video.
      2. Instead you may consider 1 lattice of n^3 particles (cude with side a*(n-1)) and other lattice of (n-1)^3 particles - centers of (n-1)^3 cubes (n - large natural number) and requested bodies for all of them. From global perspective cumulative volume of them is between ((n-3)*a)^3 and ((n+1)*a)^3 (I added a layer of cubes on each side to limit protruding parts and removed a layer of cubes in second case to limit lacking parts). Clearly requested volume is c * a^3 for some constant 0

  • @FarzanaFathima-t4e
    @FarzanaFathima-t4e 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +141

    2:20 Look a *truncated octahedron* !

  • @mksk4395
    @mksk4395 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

    "Did you study for the exam?"
    "No, but I am believing in the power of friendship"
    *Gets a 100

  • @angelmarques3124
    @angelmarques3124 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +455

    Then the teacher will mark karma’s answer as incorrect because he didn’t use the method explained in class

    • @felix30471
      @felix30471 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +87

      Dunno, everyone on the internet seems to have had this experience, but for me it's never been a problem to solve something in an unorthodox way, even if it was arguably less elegant and convenient than what we learned in class, as long as the steps I've taken and the logic behind them were clear.

    • @wryyy2841
      @wryyy2841 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

      blud did NOT write his working down😭

    • @terdragontra8900
      @terdragontra8900 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      @@felix30471 It’s because a lot of the time, unlike you, people who complain about this are really complaining about getting the right answer with a wrong method

    • @jinclay4354
      @jinclay4354 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

      @@terdragontra8900
      Actually, though, I saw that happen first-hand several times at school. Teachers marking answers as only "half-correct" because the student didn't use the method they were supposed to. Personally, I got away with that all the time because I was in the advanced Mathematics extra classes, so they knew that I knew what I was doing, but I saw many colleagues doing the same thing and being punished by the teachers.
      A well-prepared and well-paid teacher knows the importance of incentivizing students to invent solutions for Mathematics problems. But an overworked and financially unstable teacher really is not looking too hard into what they're doing, only recognizing patterns.

    • @terdragontra8900
      @terdragontra8900 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@jinclay4354 You’re right. I don’t think it’s important to teach math well to students that don’t care, though, the world is going to end anyways.

  • @danielenriquez7910
    @danielenriquez7910 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    TLDR: breakdown of domain expansions. 😂

  • @FroenTsk
    @FroenTsk 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    4:24 this is NOT primary school stuff

  • @zartigana
    @zartigana 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Bro it’s crazy how I see this video while studying this exact thing for my material technology exam tomorrow kinda crazy

  • @ShahTalks
    @ShahTalks 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +62

    Great video man, would love to see Maths appear more in Fiction.I'm surprised in Magical School type anime , there's no Teacher that focuses on Math and applications to magic

    • @hamondorf9355
      @hamondorf9355 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      I think it's cause there's very few writers if any who understand high level math and communicate it to an audience. Also given that most audiences don't like math they probably don't bother anyway lol. I definitely would love to see someone work out a whole system of mathematics and then translate it into magic. That would very cool. Math tends to be so rigid it makes it hard to go in with a desired result and make a system that gives it to you, unless said system is very simple.

    • @Datscrazi231
      @Datscrazi231 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      There's veryyy little overlap between manga author and mathematician/math nerd + there's low demand for such types of magic

    • @Kofhiliphus
      @Kofhiliphus 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      There are a few magical mangas that incorporates math and science into play. However, most of it are basic and some are systematically wrong but was played well due to it being "fiction."

    • @osbourn5772
      @osbourn5772 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      A few years ago I played around with a Minecraft mod called Psi, which basically combined programming, math, and kinematics into a spell creation system. I watched the anime (Irregular at Magic High School) it was based on, and was extremely disappointed to find that there was basically no math in the show.

    • @neztech.
      @neztech. 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      this makes me really want to see or design a low-magic fantasy world where the distribution of mana throughout the body is so small that mages must abuse mathematical concepts to make their spells useful in combat.
      like for example, a small, weak fireball could be generated by simply pouring your mana into a small enough area. but by coming at the problem differently, maybe a different mage would create high friction within air molecules to create the same effect with a much much needed reduction in mana cost. i know there wouldn't be any material for the fire to burn, but the example could be used for a lot of different things. i've always liked magic systems in stories but most of them don't really delve too deeply into the hows and whys of the systems and its honestly such a shame

  • @Heifof
    @Heifof 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Next time in your chemistry class when you start the crystallography chapter and the body-centered cubic cell shows up…

  • @JoBrew32
    @JoBrew32 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    I'm so glad someone is talking about this scene! It is still one of my favorites of all time!

  • @johnpaulcross424
    @johnpaulcross424 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You deserve millions of subs, amazing storytelling, animation, and editing. I would love to see you tackle more series with interesting problems or perspectives

  • @george9371
    @george9371 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +77

    what the fuck even is a domain lmao I understood nothing but good video chief 💯

    • @OnePieceFan4765
      @OnePieceFan4765 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Basically just another word for an area in this situation. “The domain of all points inside a fence” would just be all the space within the fence

    • @alan62036
      @alan62036 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah, it's worded stupidly and uses unnecessary symbols. Domain is just the area of the atom. And the areas are not spheres but honeycombs pressed against each other perfectly, leaving no gaps

  • @rhi4091
    @rhi4091 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Ah yes, I'm watching this instead of studying for my calculus exam that's in a few hours

  • @Mr_RandomCommenter
    @Mr_RandomCommenter 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    Wonderful video mate, I had a hard time still understanding even during rewatches probably because I was grasping Asano's method at once too. It really is so simple that you'd wish you knew sooner, the corners are only 1/8 of the point we see or have, and if you put the square on the corner point, our original point becomes the corner and the same logic applying. Since all areas combined is the area of the cube, and the corners combined are half of it when added (8/8) and our point is as well (also 8/8), our area is just half of the total area (a^3/2). It's beautiful how math was integrated into the story to show the progress of Karma's character, and at the same time it's cool how there's the easy alternative to the popular solution that is as valid to the other just from approaching it differently which is I argue one of the reasons why many find math fascinating at times.

    • @emberthecatgirl8796
      @emberthecatgirl8796 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Think of it that way: when you extend the pattern into infinity, the amount of cubes is the same as the amount of center-atoms. Each cube has 8 corner-atoms and each corner-atom touches 8 cubes. Therefore, there are twice as many atoms as cubes. Each atom’s domain is identical and exclusive with other domains, and there are no unoccupied spots.

  • @dokchampa9324
    @dokchampa9324 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +203

    One thing I dislike about the explanation is the fact that the shape of the area changes between examples. In the first "shooting corners" method the shape if of a diamond/square, but in the "everyone is their own centre" method the shape is a sphere/circle. I know that the math checks out but this discrepancy really makes it hard to follow

    • @drdca8263
      @drdca8263 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +80

      I think it is because the person thinking about the symmetry doesn’t need to think about what the shape specifically is?

    • @copywrite9396
      @copywrite9396 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

      I apologize for this. In hindsight I should have gone back to the 3d example and shown how it works for that.
      To be clear, the symmetrical argument is independent of shape. In the 2D example, 1/4 of the corners are inside the square. In the 3d example 1/8th are inside the square. In both cases they contribute to 2 total spheres, and thus we have the same argument

    • @zaek2144
      @zaek2144 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

      In Karma's method the shape of the domain is irrelevant, because you only concern yourself with the volume of a given domain with respect to the volume of a cube (which is a³).
      By Karma's reasoning we know that in a cube we can exactly fit two domains D_0 and D_1 and because the volume of every domain is the same no matter which atom you choose in the lattice, that means that two times the volume of a given domain is equal to the volume of a cube (a³).
      Thus, the volume of a domain is a³/2.
      As it was previously said, you dont really have to concern yourself with the shape of the domain for this specific method, just with its volume. It's one of the reasons why Karma's method is such a beautiful and elegant solution: you simplify and abstract the problem in such a way that the shape of the domains doesn't matter and you just have to deal with the most essential part of the problem. This abstraction also allows you to easily solve this problem for any lattice (in the 2d case the area of the domain would be the area of the polygon that spans the lattice divided by 2 and in the 3d case it would be the volume of the polyhedron that spans the lattice divided by 2)

  • @ghyro2848
    @ghyro2848 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I can't remember this from either the show or the manga. This is 100% gonna go into my next dnd campaign.

    • @copywright5635
      @copywright5635  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      thats so evil 😭

  • @inigoobien8910
    @inigoobien8910 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This analysis just made me appreciate this series that I love more than I already have. Major kudos to you, Phanimations-sensei~! ✌️😁

  • @nickitori
    @nickitori 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Man, I would never have thought of Asano's method 😭 it's too hard. This video made me appreciate what the author was trying to convey about him. As soon as you drew lines to the corners I was like, hey look triangles that form an equal square (cube). Bam, a3/2.

  • @zekiz774
    @zekiz774 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Honestly, I don’t even comprehend the question

  • @MaxxYurri
    @MaxxYurri หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It only took me till my junior year as a civil engineering major to understand this problem, when I had to solve for Atomic Packing Factor of a crystal lattice ._.

  • @Slugfox-lg2fg
    @Slugfox-lg2fg 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    well hello Assasination Classroom, I didn't expect to find you on my TH-cam feed

  • @KinuTheDragon
    @KinuTheDragon 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    After the problem was posed, I tried my hand at it:
    Due to the symmetry of the problem, we can focus on just one octant of the cube with a cube-corner at one octant-corner and the cube-center at the opposite octant-corner.
    Due to the symmetry here, half the points must be closer to the cube-center than the cube-corner. To see why, imagine flipping the points' roles and then rotating 180 degrees: the cube looks the same, but the points' roles are the opposite.
    Since any octant has half its points closer to the cube-center, the answer is half the volume of the cube.

    • @alansmithee419
      @alansmithee419 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I love how this is like a blend of both of the anime characters' solutions.

  • @Dragonyy-sb51
    @Dragonyy-sb51 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    When you added all of the lines at 5:30 the grid became that illusion with the black dots lol

  • @sonicya
    @sonicya 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This is one of my all time favorite series. A timeless show with timeless messages about the time you have left. Thank you for this video! It reminded me of why I love assassination classroom and math so much.

  • @apple8ees
    @apple8ees 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    this episode lives in my head forever - especially when i find out i could have solved a problem with much, much less steps than i had tried to

  • @faizanhussaini9658
    @faizanhussaini9658 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Theres a somewhat triv solution if we divide the cube into 8 octants. The points in each octrant are closer to the corner in that octant than to any other corner so we jsut need to determine which are closer to the center and which are clsoer to the corner of the quadrant.
    The center and the corner of each quadrant are opposite corners of the quadrants so they are both closer to half the points. Thus the vloume of points closest to the center is half the volume of the cube.

  • @russaz09
    @russaz09 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Love the “out of the box thinking”

  • @diht
    @diht 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This was my favourite math problem as a kid lol
    It demonstrates a fundamental quality of maths that makes it so unique and beautiful.

  • @computerzero2681
    @computerzero2681 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Finally, a youtuber explained this math problem

  • @Wakwise
    @Wakwise 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    never heard of this anime, nor do i watch anime in general...
    but a recent materials science class taught me how to solve this type of problem and now i'm happy to watch regardless!

  • @anonymousrandomness1374
    @anonymousrandomness1374 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    AssClass was the first anime I watched completely, probably as a middle schooler or high school freshman, and this scene stuck with me as much as any of Nagisa's most dramatic scenes. I didn't get much from Asano's method at the time, but I knew Karma had realized it was half the volume of the cube. When I took the SAT (around half a decade ago), there was a question which - if I understood and am remembering it correctly - was exactly the 2D version of this one. I remembered this scene, and I felt... a lot of positive things, it's hard to define.
    Of course, the 2D Asano method isn't nearly as bad as the 3D, and I don't remember what I actually gave as an answer (and they don't give those tests back afterward). I also wasted precious moments just feeling great about it. But maybe that experience helped me somehow, because I did score well. And in the end, what matters are two things: consider other people and their perspectives, and watch/read/etc fictional media to have fun and feel good.

  • @supermonkeyqwerty
    @supermonkeyqwerty 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    amazing anime, and amazing analysis of it
    as a math major, I appreciate looking for that elegant and easy solution so much

  • @x3no
    @x3no หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video! Thanks for taking the time to highlight this

  • @Ikxi
    @Ikxi 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Just one video and I love this channel already!!
    In the show I didn't pay much attention to the math, but when you showed the expanded grid here in the video, I instantly reliazed "ohh holy shit" the outer areas are just each 1/4 of the inner domain/volume
    freaking beautiful, when math can be shown in such a simple way
    but math teachers would still want us to write a full proof lmao, would fail so hard at that

    • @copywright5635
      @copywright5635  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Thank you!
      Yes, math teachers (especially in middle school) might want you to do some geometric method like Asano.
      However, in higher education, if you were to write out the reasoning Karma has, that would also be given full credit. It's just important that you show the reasoning, whatever it is. Otherwise how can we trust your answer?

  • @sarasousa6949
    @sarasousa6949 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    when watched this anime was before starting a chemistry degree and seen this video now made me remember how hard was to understand and i thought that was not possible to calculate and its funny because now i know how to do. thanks for the video its really good to see an anime that show math correctly and applied to chemy + characters

  • @eerieeyesred7359
    @eerieeyesred7359 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you thank you so much for explaining this I’ve been confused for SO MANY YEARS

  • @benjaminlee985
    @benjaminlee985 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I've been obsessed with this scene too ever since I saw it, and I'm really happy someone else is too.

  • @sebjink.9037
    @sebjink.9037 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I always come back to this episode, and it was nice to finally see the explination

  • @pinethetree
    @pinethetree 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That was beautiful. Using symmetry to solve the problem more easily and the metaphor between symmetry and empathy. :)

  • @saftheartist6137
    @saftheartist6137 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Excellent video, hope you find more examples in media that highlight math lessons as well as this one.

    • @copywright5635
      @copywright5635  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@saftheartist6137 if you have any suggestions I’d be open to them!

    • @saftheartist6137
      @saftheartist6137 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@copywright5635 I could only think of one example it was pretty brief. The scene is from “No Ordinary Family” and it involved a boy in high school doing math (because his power is super intelligence).

  • @radagamchannel8565
    @radagamchannel8565 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    this video convince me to watch Assasination Classroom

  • @Boko-Maru
    @Boko-Maru 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The music picks and animation in your videos absolutely slaps!

  • @scottygg8550
    @scottygg8550 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i think that is now one of my favorite math problems of all time now, thank you.

  • @umbraemilitos
    @umbraemilitos 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Plenty of shows do not get math, or math hidden under the logic of the plot, correct. I imagine many videos could be made from that content.

  • @anarchosnowflakist786
    @anarchosnowflakist786 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    very cool ! I didn't notice this was an actual important math problem back when I watched assassination classroom so I didn't remember it but I learned the second method in a crystallography class last year !

  • @diegosierra1951
    @diegosierra1951 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I solved the problem in a different way from the two you explained in the video.
    The cube can be divided in 8 cubes of side a/2 formed by a corner of the initial cube and the center point.
    Half of the volume of each of these smaller cubes belongs to the domain you try to calculate, since you can draw a plane that's perpendicular to the diagonal formed by drawing a line joining the corner and the center of the initial cube and bisects the cube through the middle point of the diagonal.
    Since there are 8 cubes like that, multiply the half the volume of a small cube times eight to obtain the number you were looking for. ((a³/8)/2)*8=a³/2

  • @Gojiradogzillagodzilla
    @Gojiradogzillagodzilla 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    "Math"
    0:11 bro is literally having a test about the crystalline structures i'm seeing in my materials science engineering classes LMFAO

  • @notcyfhr
    @notcyfhr 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This content reminds me of watching 2b3b or whatever the channel name is I always forget but I had to cram calculus with his TH-cam series on calculus. It worked but I have to refresh for the next one

    • @copywright5635
      @copywright5635  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      2b3b is crazy lmao. Thanks for watching

  • @Trigun99
    @Trigun99 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I remember seeing it in the Manga and not really understanding it, then watching it in the anime and having it make a lot more sense. Thank you for the reminder of one of my favorite anime.

  • @СарраКарагозян
    @СарраКарагозян 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you so much for this video! Read the manga a long time ago, when I didn't appreciate the math problems, so this is a delightful throwback! Using the real math to show a character's growth is genuinely genius.
    Also I wouldn't be able to find such beautiful solution on my own either, so thank you again! Power of friendship and anime 🤝 Karma's approach is so simple and elegant.

  • @thephoenix8421
    @thephoenix8421 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was one of the earlier anime’s I watched in my anime watching career. I absolutely loved it and fell in love with the combat and teaching/wisdom oriented anime’s I still binge to this day nearly two years after.

  • @abeautifulduwang
    @abeautifulduwang 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    yeah that math is definitely spot on cause I never wouldve understood it if I were in class and I still don't understand it now

  • @MagnificentCreature
    @MagnificentCreature 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    AssClass holds a special place in my heart, I didn’t think too deeply about this when I first saw it, but I felt it made much thematic and mathematical sense. Absolutely amazing video covering two of my favourite things. Math and Anime, you earned my sub tdy

  • @ansa2197
    @ansa2197 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Finally, thank you for explaining this! I understand the question + answers of this math problem in this episode 😭

  • @Jacobjones762
    @Jacobjones762 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I never realized how this showed how his mindsets changed from the beginning of the year also crystology seems pretty cool wish they thought it here.

  • @harsyakiarraathallah2222
    @harsyakiarraathallah2222 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Man if only i can see Math like this... I could Probably at least be calmer in doing it.

  • @user-zl1jh6jm6d
    @user-zl1jh6jm6d 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've been stuck on this problem for years I won't lie. The way you broke it down was so simple and I'm glad that people who watch the show for the first time now and have questions abt this scene have a simple and great video coming to their aid!

  • @memesalldayjack3267
    @memesalldayjack3267 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    those animations were awesome, I doubt I'd understand stuff without it

  • @catherineluk2414
    @catherineluk2414 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    just wanted to share my appreciation for this video. i forgot how much i loved the themes presented in assassination classroom. the animations and visuals you added to explain this theory were super well done.

  • @hungrypizzafox
    @hungrypizzafox 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's so cool seeing stuff like this in shows, they put soo much thought into both the topic and the interpret it into the story. I wish more anime did this, but I also wish all shows did this. It just makes the show seem more real. I love this anime.

  • @imnotjesper
    @imnotjesper 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I actually can't think of any other show/story that uses math like this. But, to be fair, from what I remember of Ass Class, Asano and Karma are basically some of the best high schoolers at math in the country. So this problem should probably be fairly straight forward for them.

  • @shahproductionsuser2965
    @shahproductionsuser2965 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I remember when I read this part in the manga, I solved the problem myself before moving on and seeing how the characters did so

  • @AsyncMusic
    @AsyncMusic 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is really interesting! It's something I went over in a modern physics class when covering crystalography

  • @MochiFam
    @MochiFam 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is so beautiful it makes me want to rewatch this series for the third time lol

  • @ArchiXBelidercene
    @ArchiXBelidercene 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    We got anime 3blue1brown before gta6 💀

  • @azraeltom
    @azraeltom 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    iirc when I read the manga long ago, the author added a footnote that he asked a few friends to come up with university level problems that could be solved by high schoolers (or something along the lines)

  • @Jazzimus
    @Jazzimus 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    no joke this has to be one of the ebst videos iv seen on youtube, extremely well put together

  • @riellim
    @riellim 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    FINALLY the humbling that I needed! i kinda get it but at the same time I don't. I won't be able to solve this by myself, that's for sure. I'd probably brute force it like Asano if I managed to comprehend the problem and fail to find the answer 😭

  • @goldeer7129
    @goldeer7129 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    When i first watched this (bout 5 years ago) i was already into math but didn't even really think too much about it, cause i didn't there was an actual problem behind it. Now this actually looks incredubly cool

  • @amanemisaki4046
    @amanemisaki4046 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    my favorite type of yt video (random math) + my favorite anime? subscribed.

  • @Squid_less01
    @Squid_less01 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Omg this is such a unique video! I love Assassination classroom and math so this was such a good watch! I wish more videos were like this

  • @chrisbmxbrandt9495
    @chrisbmxbrandt9495 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This was genuinely interesting

  • @mensem2405
    @mensem2405 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    insanely entertaining, yet insightful video. Please make more content bruhh

    • @copywright5635
      @copywright5635  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Of course lol. It's gonna be about half "math in media" stuff like this. And half just cool math/physics stuff!

  • @DrizzingSakuras
    @DrizzingSakuras 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I LOVED THIS EPISODE, LIKE BRO WAS TRYING TO SHOOT THE FUCKING MATH I CANT-

  • @mamasitas3566
    @mamasitas3566 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Usually, math videos are the bane of my existence, and I always have to force myself to watch them, but this video was so easy and fun to follow! (Lol probably because of the anime characters, but whatever). Thank u for this great video!

    • @mamasitas3566
      @mamasitas3566 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Also, I hope you post more math videos I'd love to learn from u

  • @_drago
    @_drago 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    4:12 my mind is BLOWN would be an under statement. I myself thought of calculating same way as Asano but seeing you now explain Karma's method, THIS IS GENIUS.

  • @Gravitatis
    @Gravitatis 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    3:47
    " All knowledge presupposes Subject and Object.
    Even self-consciousness (Selbstbewusstsein) therefore, is not absolutely simple, but, like our consciousness of all other things it is subdivided into that which is known and that which knows.
    The Subject accordingly knows itself exclusively as willing, but not as knowing. For the ego which represents, never can itself become representation or Object, since it conditions all representations as their necessary correlate. "

  • @coffeeandtea5495
    @coffeeandtea5495 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The language of the problem was a bit hard to understand.
    But with your explaination and visualisation.
    It really is elementary.
    Good work.

  • @rexellerainbow1173
    @rexellerainbow1173 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    everytime im sitting for a test, i think about this show specifically the whole final exams arc. but i never really understood it until now. i just hope my final exam for this senior year wont have that question. if i see that on my paper ill genuinely cry as i try to remember this vid lol

  • @starfurystudionl4732
    @starfurystudionl4732 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Assassination classroom actually helped me with geometry, not kidding. Had watched the test episode a day or two before my own math test and learned that picturing the problems like how they did it helped me with math. Test day comes, I use my new think method, boom, I aced it.