+Bluestrike 01 That's what made the whole movie scary, Derek even when he quit resembles an up and coming Adolf Hitler. Had he not changed, he woulda probably started WWIII.
Sweeney 1, Cameron -0 Sweeney is such a Kind patient understanding Teacher with enormous empathy who still cares for Derek despite his Ardent Racist views and beliefs, While Cameron is truly a Snake who just uses People for his own personal Agenda to make his own twisted version of what America should be.
David Cho, Both of them have a personal Agenda to make a version of what America should be. You just happen to call one twisted. You could say the owner of every business and the head manager of any business use people for their own personal agenda also. This movie does not show what Cameron would really do for Derek and he didnt have to sit there rooting for him when he was playing basketball either. Some racist people do have empathy for their own race or religion or whatever the fuck and care much less about humans outside of that. A christian pastor as an example David could be a Kind patient understanding Teacher with enormous empathy who cares for you while still trying to use you to put his beliefs on you. Would you call that type of person a snake? Stop being so biased David.
+Razor Blade from Hell Damn straight. It says something when you can go from feeling sorry for a character, to hating his very existing, to respecting him as a human being, all within one film. Ed Norton is a frigging acting genius, and this character is one of the deepest ever played on screen, in my opinion.
If you’re gonna do something wrong, do it right. If you cheat on your girlfriend, it had better be with a supermodel. If cheat on your diet, don’t get a pizza, get a rack of baby back ribs. I think u see my point. Derek decked him one, so a kick in the mouth is just expected at this point. Good job Derek.
@@aceventuraify I think the assault made more sense in the context of the film with the deleted scene included, where Cameron and his henchman get attacked. He doesn't really have any power outside of his tiny inner circle of idiot followers. They're not feared or respected on any level. "You're a dead man vineyard!" Is an empty threat. They're not and never were powerful
The one thing that I love about this scene is Derek's genuine care for his brother, his blood. He even makes Cam think all is cool by being upbeat when he's like "there's a little blonde girl out there that keeps asking for ya!" Just trying to get his brother out of the room because shits about to go down.
I love when Cam's like "he'll come to me" and Derek gets into his face, you can see that he would literally kill the guy if he tries to poison his brother further
I never had a little brother, but I i eve had & Cam was threatening him, I probably would've just murdered cameron & smuggled his fat, jiggling wannabe nazi ass covertly ouf of there and found him some pigs on a farm down south near Earlimart.
Stacy Keach doesn’t get the credit he deserves for this role, man. He played imposing elements of Cam perfectly and the subtle, manipulative elements just as well. The head of a skinhead organization has gotta be a difficult role to play…it’d be really easy to overdo and descend into cartoonishness
Key to any role is empathy; a performance can become cartoonish anytime an actor chooses to depict their perspective of a character, rather than the character's perspective of itself. Everyone is the hero of their own story, so the right way to play the role of Cam for this particular movie isn't as a villian but a savior, regardless of how reprehensible he is.
@@monkeydude9192That's a great explanation, I've never heard it said that way before. It also explains why it's so easy to spot bad writing/acting. Any type of person they don't like, they'll portray them as a cartoonish caricature, as if mocking them. This guy was a horrible person, but he was portrayed in a realistic way. That made him more disturbing.
@@dr.plagueman4226 On what basis do you assert this? What exactly is the model for the leader of a small white nationalist group and how does Cam significantly deviate from that?
@@dr.plagueman4226not really, examples of manipulative sociopathic people at the head of criminal organizations exist. They almost always use the model of identifying and exploiting the loneliness of their followers. Whether it's an inner city gang, motorcycle club, mafia, or skinheads, the guy in charge always exploits that hunger for family and acceptance.
Yes. Love how he accepts new information which shapes his world view. Before prison he didn’t know the issues faced by black men in America in particular (black women as well, but men more-so in terms of incarceration), but he learned from Lamont over time. I think it also was big that he ended up really liking and respecting Lamont due to his ability to get past Derek’s racist bullshit over time.
It’s an interesting writing choice how when Cameron realises derek is really out of his grasp and his control, he switches from using his first to his last name. Its a subtle way to emphasize that Cameron’s perception of him has just shifted from “I can still control this guy” ingratiation, to “this guy is a danger to me, lost cause, let’s try and intimidate him.”
Fun Fact: Joaquin Phoenix was the original actor that they had in mind for the lead role when they wrote the script. However he turned it down fearing that it was too risky and controversial. He believed the movie could possibly ruin his career so he declined the role.
Derek is dangerous... In the first part of the movie because he's a racist skinhead but he's smart and is a good leader so he's dangerous to society in general. In the second half of the film, he's dangerous to the skinheads because he's smart, he knows too much and he's charismatic and a good leader. Just a great character who goes from smart, curious kid, to violent racist, to redemption & wanting to be better for his family & society. Just a great character & a great film.
Dangerous to the skinheads my ass, they get credibility from him which they lose without him and crumble despite him remaining mum about their activities and their crimes other than his own. You must not have really gotten the ending of the film because it ends on a cliffhanger of their impending demise due to his absence of leadership and the point of their gang being annihilated is rammed home with the climax.
What a great scene. This movie is a masterpiece because it works on so many levels. It's about racism, obviously but it also tells a great story about people being used/controlled in general.
lol no it's not. It's a caricature of what hollywood elites think wignats are. That's why it never won any awards or is regarded in popular esteem. The best description of this movie is that it's a movie made by liberals for other liberals. But it did have phenomenal acting chops behind it, so it escapes being labeled trash.
@@Conan_the_Based I think you might be selling it a little short. It’s obviously got it’s flaws but I think the fact that Derek and Danny are portrayed as smart, charismatic kids who still get caught up in a racist movement demonstrates that the film understands that it isn’t just people like Seth or Derek’s disturbed girlfriend in these racist spaces. Like Derek says to Cam, these movements prey on people.
I love how I don't see any white racist people on here or racist at all for that matter. Shit like this is very real. Realise the bullshit people. Being in gangs are no good. Educate yourself, respect others, and help others if they need help. I love this movie by the way.
"Or racist at all for that matter" This may come as a surprise to you, but black people (and other non-white races) can be just as racist, or worse. Racism isn't a one-way street, no matter how much the SJW's and Dems make it out to be. To be fair, you seem to have at least a rudimentary understanding of this. Think for yourself, forget the outside "noise"
@@mindriot91_96Racism isn't a one way street you say?. Well whos street did it first come from?. Who created white racist supremacy first?. Blk people or white people?. You give out nothing but hate to the world then don't complain when you get it back ten fold.
They set this entire movie up wrong. He stopped armed robbers for stealing his truck while one of them held a gun by the door. It wouldn't matter what race the guys were, he attempted to stop armed grand theft auto. If they wanted to portray him as an evil racist they should have had him randomly attack black people who weren't doing anything wrong.
Scary thing is, when you’re in too deep, getting out is more likely in a body bag. A friend of mine who joined a aryan crew in prison for survival basically had to change as much of his info as possible and live overseas. He gets a tat removed every couple years since it’s so painful
MrWadewynn why are people so scared of as you put It ''getting out in a body bag'' Is beyond me. I mean its a way of getting out right? Not alive but still
When i was in high school. There were different groups. In high school. As i got older graduation. Came. I grew up. Knowing all different kinds of cultures. Are good ppl. That work day in day out. Real ppl. With real life goals. I am 42 years old now. I am proud of myself and all my accomplishments. I have two kids son and daughter.
This movie is one of the best movies i ever saw. And this scene is awesome. Bit it also very intriguing when Derek tells Danny about his time in prison and you see in flashbacks how it changed his mind. After his work partner tells him why he got 6 years that's a breaking point and he comes to realize that all the shit he did, didn't helped him at all and it maked matters worse.
You know what's really sad though? Even though Derek may have beaten the living shit out of Cameron, there's always an even worse Nazi leader ready to step up and take his place, and possibly hunt Derek and the rest of his family down for what he did to Cameron.
That was a nice touch Derek Vinyard used to get Danny to leave Cameron's office. He was planning to break peacefully from Cameron and did not want his little brother to see it , but everything went to hell.
What is the point of that? If he was gonna do that he may as well not have gone. He wanted to make it clear he was out and he wasn't coming back. Otherwise Cam and his people would keep bothering him wondering when he's gonna get back into the life.
I would have done the opposite. Cam is a coward, a fat scared old man. I would have gone in and slammed him against the wall and made sure he understood that he's not in a position to do anything except beg for forgiveness. He isn't owed any respect or courtesy. I would basically bully him and punk him out and make him feel like a bitch.
What's frustrating is that all he had to do was sit Danny down, tell him what was up with his aryan status to keep him from the party and Seth, sit down with Seth and Cameron and tell them what's what, then get the very police who were monitoring him to protect them from both gangs while he worked out a relocation plan. He wanted to be a man and sort the shit out himself since he was a twenty something who hadn't recollected about life in the real world yet.
Really speaks volumes about the filmmakers to think that a hate filled Nazi would come out of prison reformed and a changed man and not more hardened than ever lol
Cameron knows Derek paid the price for his own hatred, he is also a changed person,and is there to save his brother from the same fate, but Cameron still tries to coerce him and Derek isnt having any of it. He knows Derek went to prison and came out a stonger person for the right reasons. Cameron can sense he's in trouble cause there alone. Amazing scene and acting!
"I don't feel funny, cam" ....He thinks the joint messed with your mind "It did" I think Cam knew right then and there - Derek couldn't be manipulated any more by him.
This is a perfect example of how _not_ to get out of a situation like this. The right way to have handled it would to have pretended to be on good terms with Cameron, joke around with him, get his guard down, and slip away in the middle of the night unheard with his brother. Instead he projected all of his next moves.
“I won’t have to. He’ll come to me. I’m more important to him now than you’ll ever be”. Man, Cameron was just asking to get punched after saying something like that!
Actually the part of his life that he lost was between meeting cam and his first day in jail. The 3 years he spent in jail was a very valuable time for him
chickenhawk
noun
a person who speaks out in support of war yet has avoided active military service.
Every time I hear that term, I think of the little guy from the Foghorn Leghorn cartoons. "I'm a chickenhawk!"
I never knew that!
It's a term for a pedophile also
That's one definition. The other is a man who is sexually attracted to young boys. I'm pretty sure this is how Derek meant it based on Cam's reaction.
I think it's the war definition given how Derek was just talking about how he uses young men, let's them do the dirty work and go to prison for it
Damn, Stacey Keach nailed this role. Dude's a hell of an actor
He really did pass as a head of a Nazi group.
Very underrated.
Yea he is.
I agree! He now narrates the show American Greed on CNBC and has the perfect voice for it. The guy has some real talent
Check out fat city - plays an alcoholic boxer
Derek was right about Cameron. He uses his people. For example, when has he ever visited Derek in prison? NEVER.
+jtfourlife For some reason i think that using people is what Hilter also did with his man and some others did to him.
+Bluestrike 01 That's what made the whole movie scary, Derek even when he quit resembles an up and coming Adolf Hitler. Had he not changed, he woulda probably started WWIII.
Sweeney 1, Cameron -0 Sweeney is such a Kind patient understanding Teacher with enormous empathy who still cares for Derek despite his Ardent Racist views and beliefs, While Cameron is truly a Snake who just uses People for his own personal Agenda to make his own twisted version of what America should be.
David Cho he is a snake
David Cho,
Both of them have a personal Agenda to make a version of what America should be.
You just happen to call one twisted.
You could say the owner of every business and the head manager of any business use people for their own personal agenda also.
This movie does not show what Cameron would really do for Derek and he didnt have to sit there rooting for him when he was playing basketball either.
Some racist people do have empathy for their own race or religion or whatever the fuck and care much less about humans outside of that.
A christian pastor as an example David could be a Kind patient understanding Teacher with enormous empathy who cares for you while still trying to use you to put his beliefs on you. Would you call that type of person a snake?
Stop being so biased David.
This is one of those movies I can watch 50 times over and never get bored of
Norton delivers such a strong performance
Me too, as long as I can fast forward past that kerb scene.
Mee too
Still one of the best movies i have ever watched.
+Razor Blade from Hell Damn straight. It says something when you can go from feeling sorry for a character, to hating his very existing, to respecting him as a human being, all within one film. Ed Norton is a frigging acting genius, and this character is one of the deepest ever played on screen, in my opinion.
The other Ed, the kid from T2 did a damn good job, too.
+Razor Blade from Hell Powerful movie and its message.
It’s disgusting how underrated this movie is.
@@Mach5Johnny - This movie is not underrated at all, do you even know what that word means?
Edward's sincere conviction is my favorite part of this movie.
Which Edward?
Agreed
I love how he punches Cam and is like shit I shouldn't have done that. Then he kicks him in the face for good measure anyways lol.
you know what they say, in for a penny...
Reminds me of Scary Movie. "We committed murder, we might as well rob his ass"
If you’re gonna do something wrong, do it right. If you cheat on your girlfriend, it had better be with a supermodel. If cheat on your diet, don’t get a pizza, get a rack of baby back ribs. I think u see my point. Derek decked him one, so a kick in the mouth is just expected at this point. Good job Derek.
I think the kick was to slow him down on notifying the others so he had time to get away.
@@aceventuraify I think the assault made more sense in the context of the film with the deleted scene included, where Cameron and his henchman get attacked. He doesn't really have any power outside of his tiny inner circle of idiot followers. They're not feared or respected on any level. "You're a dead man vineyard!" Is an empty threat. They're not and never were powerful
The one thing that I love about this scene is Derek's genuine care for his brother, his blood. He even makes Cam
think all is cool by being upbeat when he's like "there's a little blonde girl out there that keeps asking for ya!" Just trying to get his brother out of the room because shits about to go down.
I love when Cam's like "he'll come to me" and Derek gets into his face, you can see that he would literally kill the guy if he tries to poison his brother further
I never had a little brother, but I i eve had & Cam was threatening him, I probably would've just murdered cameron & smuggled his fat, jiggling wannabe nazi ass covertly ouf of there and found him some pigs on a farm down south near Earlimart.
I love being a rational human being and just watching the movie instead of trying to make it a real story…….grow up
@@Gfysimpletons What the fuck are you even talking about?
@@MultiUnreal who’s yo momma?….a question DCFS would like an answer to so they can get a refund for a defective product!
This is arguably one of the best scenes in the movie
Nah, act I is the best.
Stacy Keach doesn’t get the credit he deserves for this role, man. He played imposing elements of Cam perfectly and the subtle, manipulative elements just as well. The head of a skinhead organization has gotta be a difficult role to play…it’d be really easy to overdo and descend into cartoonishness
Key to any role is empathy; a performance can become cartoonish anytime an actor chooses to depict their perspective of a character, rather than the character's perspective of itself. Everyone is the hero of their own story, so the right way to play the role of Cam for this particular movie isn't as a villian but a savior, regardless of how reprehensible he is.
Holy shit I always thought that was powers booth haven't seen the movie in like 15 years though
@@monkeydude9192That's a great explanation, I've never heard it said that way before.
It also explains why it's so easy to spot bad writing/acting. Any type of person they don't like, they'll portray them as a cartoonish caricature, as if mocking them.
This guy was a horrible person, but he was portrayed in a realistic way. That made him more disturbing.
@@dr.plagueman4226 On what basis do you assert this? What exactly is the model for the leader of a small white nationalist group and how does Cam significantly deviate from that?
@@dr.plagueman4226not really, examples of manipulative sociopathic people at the head of criminal organizations exist. They almost always use the model of identifying and exploiting the loneliness of their followers. Whether it's an inner city gang, motorcycle club, mafia, or skinheads, the guy in charge always exploits that hunger for family and acceptance.
I absolutely love how hard Derek is, no training just life. The balls to walk into that and be honest, wow.
You had the balls to tell Tommy to get his shine box
Well you see, when your previous experience in confrontation involves curbstopping a guys head, shit like this is a cakewalk
Yes. Love how he accepts new information which shapes his world view. Before prison he didn’t know the issues faced by black men in America in particular (black women as well, but men more-so in terms of incarceration), but he learned from Lamont over time. I think it also was big that he ended up really liking and respecting Lamont due to his ability to get past Derek’s racist bullshit over time.
20 fing years… wait wrong character
@@bigkillerwhale1801 you talkin about the shah of Iran? 😂😂😂
Stacy Keach is a wonderful character actor.
"You come around Danny again, and I will feed you your fuckin heart Cameron!" 💯 Real words of a big brother
I wont have to he'll come to me
It’s an interesting writing choice how when Cameron realises derek is really out of his grasp and his control, he switches from using his first to his last name. Its a subtle way to emphasize that Cameron’s perception of him has just shifted from “I can still control this guy” ingratiation, to “this guy is a danger to me, lost cause, let’s try and intimidate him.”
Nice catch
nerd
@@morradi10000 your subbed to boogies fat fuqn beggar azz. I’d watch who I call a nerd lmao!
'Excuse me but fvck you Derek'
Or he’s just mad that he got punched in the face?
Nobody can curse quite like Edward Norton.
Never heared a scot swear i see haha
Ever heard of Samuel L. Jackson🤣
@@juliusraben3526 fookin
@@bassandbucks4282 samuel L jackson has no acting ability whatsoever... guy sucks
@@bassandbucks4282 he's so overrated
The kick is pure “fuck it - it’s done now”
This film and an History of Violence two underrated great films. I can continually watch both anytime.
@L.A.P A History Of Violence sucked, this film isn’t underrated either. It’s a bonafide classic!
@2H2521 yeah history of violence sucked not enough joey cusack murdering people scenes
Edward Norton comes out of the gate with:
Primal Fear
American History X
Fight Club
In his 20s and just wanted to do f*ckin awesome movies
You're absolutely right. His start to his career was exceptional, almost James Dean level. He literally started with 3 consecutive classics.
During that time he also did The People vs Larry Flint, Rounders and that shitty Woody Allen musical
I loved him in 25th Hour
Rounders is GOATED
@@m.d.mantistoboggan absolutely. One of Matt Damon's more underrated movies fr.
"Well excuse me but fuck you Derek"
Ive always loved that line!
My bosses name is Derek and I said that too him 😂
"Well excuse me but fuck you" LOL!
Dr Quantum I say that line to my wife all the time.
“You don’t have to watch your ass around here.” I don’t know why I never understood how dark that line was.
I caught it the very 1st time and it showed me just how insensitive that black toothed bastard was.😡
I think he knew what happened 🤔
@@C.O.SBurpees In a deleted scene, Cam said one of the guys from the Aryan prison gang contacted him about the rape.
Making fun of him for being raped sure was an odd tactic to get him to relax…
Yeah, Derek should have just stomped him out and cracked his skull open.
That's just normal guy talk. Testosterone understands testosterone you know.
Fun Fact: Joaquin Phoenix was the original actor that they had in mind for the lead role when they wrote the script. However he turned it down fearing that it was too risky and controversial. He believed the movie could possibly ruin his career so he declined the role.
would have been too many characters with a cleft lip.
@@davidenzo8596 llllooolllll geeeezuss
@@davidenzo8596LMFAO YOOOO
Odd role for a Jew for sure. 😅
Probably would've hit home too since it's a movie about a big brother trynna save his little brother
How Norton didn’t win the Oscar for this performance is beyond me.
Kikes would never allow that movie winning a prize
Fans are more important than an Oscar.
Life is Beautiful was by far the best movie that year
He should have won for Primal Fear too
politics... subject matter and politics. This movie never had a chance in wokeism Hollywood.
Also, this movie kind of sucks
Derek is dangerous...
In the first part of the movie because he's a racist skinhead but he's smart and is a good leader so he's dangerous to society in general.
In the second half of the film, he's dangerous to the skinheads because he's smart, he knows too much and he's charismatic and a good leader.
Just a great character who goes from smart, curious kid, to violent racist, to redemption & wanting to be better for his family & society. Just a great character & a great film.
Dangerous to the skinheads my ass, they get credibility from him which they lose without him and crumble despite him remaining mum about their activities and their crimes other than his own. You must not have really gotten the ending of the film because it ends on a cliffhanger of their impending demise due to his absence of leadership and the point of their gang being annihilated is rammed home with the climax.
Not smart enough to know Cameron was just using him
and then a black guy proves he was right...
@@pitbul2877 How does the black kid prove him right? The kid shot his tormentors same as all the white school shooters.
@@pitbul2877 how?
What a great scene. This movie is a masterpiece because it works on so many levels. It's about racism, obviously but it also tells a great story about people being used/controlled in general.
lol no it's not. It's a caricature of what hollywood elites think wignats are. That's why it never won any awards or is regarded in popular esteem. The best description of this movie is that it's a movie made by liberals for other liberals.
But it did have phenomenal acting chops behind it, so it escapes being labeled trash.
@@Conan_the_Based I think you might be selling it a little short. It’s obviously got it’s flaws but I think the fact that Derek and Danny are portrayed as smart, charismatic kids who still get caught up in a racist movement demonstrates that the film understands that it isn’t just people like Seth or Derek’s disturbed girlfriend in these racist spaces. Like Derek says to Cam, these movements prey on people.
I think it's about redemption and realization, not racism
1:01 two words just completely change the entire atmosphere of the scene, fucking wild
Growing up as an adult this movie is brilliant. Seriously
You grew up as an adult? How 🤔
3:34 in for a penny
3:43 In for a pound
Jazzcat135 That's Copland movie. LoL 🤣
Fun fact; Norton and DeNiro share the same birthday. Everytime I see a good scene like this i just think how alike they are
Edward Norton pure acting fire incarnate.
I love how I don't see any white racist people on here or racist at all for that matter. Shit like this is very real. Realise the bullshit people. Being in gangs are no good. Educate yourself, respect others, and help others if they need help. I love this movie by the way.
"Or racist at all for that matter" This may come as a surprise to you, but black people (and other non-white races) can be just as racist, or worse. Racism isn't a one-way street, no matter how much the SJW's and Dems make it out to be.
To be fair, you seem to have at least a rudimentary understanding of this. Think for yourself, forget the outside "noise"
No one cares NPC.
The thing is no one in this movie comes out squeaky clean
That's exactly what he said dumb ape @@mindriot91_96
@@mindriot91_96Racism isn't a one way street you say?.
Well whos street did it first come from?.
Who created white racist supremacy first?. Blk people or white people?. You give out nothing but hate to the world then don't complain when you get it back ten fold.
Dude Edward killed it👍🏻👊🏻
One of the greatest movies ever made
They picked the perfect actor to play Derek Vineyard..... Edward Norton is one hell of an actor and this is his best role
Managed to become part of 2 cult movies... What are the chances...
Despite what other actors or filmmakers may say about working with Edward Norton, he truly is one of the greats.
the fact cam gets so offended by being called a chicken hawk haha
Excuse me?!?
He is a chicken hawk. He gets addressed as one. It's the moral of the whole fucking movie man.
@@joepermenter7228 he isn't denying that Cameron is a chicken hawk... he was just pointing out that Cam's reaction was funny. Relax.
@@joepermenter7228 didn't your parents teach you to be nice
@@bv6377 This movie is about overcoming racism. Wtf are you even talking about?
HATE is a waste of time...WE are not enemies but friends.
Randy took it harsh when Earl fell into a coma
Ed Norton is such an underrated actor. His acting was top notch in this film.
They set this entire movie up wrong. He stopped armed robbers for stealing his truck while one of them held a gun by the door. It wouldn't matter what race the guys were, he attempted to stop armed grand theft auto.
If they wanted to portray him as an evil racist they should have had him randomly attack black people who weren't doing anything wrong.
"Randomly attack black people who weren't doing anything wrong". Except, that's never how racism happens.
Scary thing is, when you’re in too deep, getting out is more likely in a body bag. A friend of mine who joined a aryan crew in prison for survival basically had to change as much of his info as possible and live overseas. He gets a tat removed every couple years since it’s so painful
nice made up story, pal
@@jotarokujo5132 nothing ever happens to internet commentators lol
MrWadewynn why are people so scared of as you put It ''getting out in a body bag'' Is beyond me. I mean its a way of getting out right? Not alive but still
May the good Lord bless him and you.👏🙏☺️
@@jotarokujo5132 it's true and I can back it up. I was that prison.
When i was in high school. There were different groups. In high school. As i got older graduation. Came. I grew up. Knowing all different kinds of cultures. Are good ppl. That work day in day out. Real ppl. With real life goals. I am 42 years old now. I am proud of myself and all my accomplishments. I have two kids son and daughter.
Goat scene. Prob the best use of chickenhawk in all of cinema.
Stacy Keach is a wonderful actor. He can disappear into a role like he did here.
Love the pan over to Norton showing how mad he is. 50 seconds
I'm in love with this movie❤️
This movie is one of the best movies i ever saw.
And this scene is awesome.
Bit it also very intriguing when Derek tells Danny about his time in prison and you see in flashbacks how it changed his mind. After his work partner tells him why he got 6 years that's a breaking point and he comes to realize that all the shit he did, didn't helped him at all and it maked matters worse.
For all of derek's redemption I think he could have not possibly handled this interaction worse
He wasn't expecting it to go down like that. When Cameron mentioned Danny, he lost it for a second.
If you come near Danny again, I will feed you your fucking heart, Cameron
I always thought it was hilarious when he called him a fucking chicken Hawk lol
Well excuse me but fuck you might be the funniest response I've ever heard
Top 10 best ever movies
You know what's really sad though? Even though Derek may have beaten the living shit out of Cameron, there's always an even worse Nazi leader ready to step up and take his place, and possibly hunt Derek and the rest of his family down for what he did to Cameron.
HighVoltage Shock Look up the deleted scene with Cameron and Seth.
The Ben's Burgers scene. You I know which one.
I see your point considering Cam and Seth are killed because they start shit with guys in the super market. This movie is great:
0:59 “He thinks the joint messed with your mind.”
“It did.”
Camerons face: 😃 too 🤨
We heard him thanks
Only people who have done time know what it is like.
apparently "the white man marches on" is the only song neo-Nazis have
bo where near there is tons thousands of cds bands every year its a movie man
It's their "Free Bird"
@Roddy what about Horst Wessel Lied and other songs like that
One of Norton's best acting scenes, ever (which is saying quite a bit)
This performance is hands down his best to date.
Primal Fear
Derek took his experience with Hannibal lector in prison and delivered a killer line as a result 🤣🤣
Edward is just an other level of acting
Bad ass movie one of my all time favs
This movie is more relevant & important nowadays than when it first came out…
Love is better than hate.
@Lucimyr not all the time dude
@Lucimyr Only if people like you let it
@Lucimyr Nothing is stronger than anything. It's only a matter of what you believe in.
What are you rose ticeo
Use your anger use your hate elevate your mental state
COULD HAVE AT LEAST ADDED THE WHOLE SCENE WHEN HE FLEES
I like after the kick..he checks his work!! 😂😂😂
That was a nice touch Derek Vinyard used to get Danny to leave Cameron's office. He was planning to break peacefully from Cameron and did not want his little brother to see it , but everything went to hell.
best acting performance ever
Norton an all time great.
Derek should have said something like, "I'm confused. I need to think" and then walked out of there without a confrontation.
What is the point of that? If he was gonna do that he may as well not have gone. He wanted to make it clear he was out and he wasn't coming back. Otherwise Cam and his people would keep bothering him wondering when he's gonna get back into the life.
I would have done the opposite. Cam is a coward, a fat scared old man. I would have gone in and slammed him against the wall and made sure he understood that he's not in a position to do anything except beg for forgiveness. He isn't owed any respect or courtesy. I would basically bully him and punk him out and make him feel like a bitch.
Edward Norton said he had a extremly difficult time acting as a nazi. He must of loved doing this scene.
Edward Norton is such a great actor doesn’t even feel like he’s acting
Cameron never had the makings of a varsity athlete
Damn Norton was a hell of an actor in the 90's/earl 00's. Dude made legendary movies. Too bad he disappeared after that
That kick was sweet
Great actors. Great movie . Still one of my favourites ever
What's frustrating is that All he had to do is lie to Cam, tell him he needed some time to to get situated...Then leave town with his Fam
He couldn’t. Those weren’t the terms of his parole.
What's frustrating is that all he had to do was sit Danny down, tell him what was up with his aryan status to keep him from the party and Seth, sit down with Seth and Cameron and tell them what's what, then get the very police who were monitoring him to protect them from both gangs while he worked out a relocation plan. He wanted to be a man and sort the shit out himself since he was a twenty something who hadn't recollected about life in the real world yet.
My favorite line is
"You fucking ChickenHawk"
Excuse me???
Really speaks volumes about the filmmakers to think that a hate filled Nazi would come out of prison reformed and a changed man and not more hardened than ever lol
It's a MOVIE you genius
@@somnuswaltz5586 Precisely my point. It’s propaganda.
Seems you have missed the entire point of the goddamn film. Wow
@@calvincameron354 Thanks, Calvin!
@@RayFinkle05 "Precisely my point. It’s propaganda."
You're supposed to use a comma in between "point" and "It's". You are a very dumb individual.
That line about the internet is ominous considering the 15 years following this film
Cameron was a real Sociopath.
Punch: ah crap, that was a bad move
Kick: just shut up
Cameron knows Derek paid the price for his own hatred, he is also a changed person,and is there to save his brother from the same fate, but Cameron still tries to coerce him and Derek isnt having any of it. He knows Derek went to prison and came out a stonger person for the right reasons. Cameron can sense he's in trouble cause there alone. Amazing scene and acting!
"I don't feel funny, cam"
....He thinks the joint messed with your mind
"It did"
I think Cam knew right then and there - Derek couldn't be manipulated any more by him.
The singer is Jason Lee’s brother from My Name is Earl!
Why does Derek look like he's smirking when he's angry?
I bet these two guys had a hell of a time acting this out.
@@lj6109 I can just picture a blooper of this where he does that and both of them just start laughing their asses off
Its weird.I dont rate norton in other films,yet in this he was on fire,and could stand with de niro,pacino,washington,freeman,hackman.
Cam wanted derek to be himmler to his hitler, instead derek became Claus Von Stauffenberg
"You made the fat kid a little nervous"...
Shows him screaming lol
This is a perfect example of how _not_ to get out of a situation like this. The right way to have handled it would to have pretended to be on good terms with Cameron, joke around with him, get his guard down, and slip away in the middle of the night unheard with his brother. Instead he projected all of his next moves.
this is the best movie that covers the topic of Racism.
Derek looks like Bud Bundy in the thumbnail 🤣
Lmao 😂
I always wished there was a follow up movie or at least i wish this movie was an hour longer
Keech as absolutely chilling in this.
Norton was perhaps a little too convincing in this role.
I like the old Derek better.
@SarahCarrizales-nk3iewtf
Edward Norton was perfect in American History X, the story & his character development.
Anybody else shocked to revisit and see that Kevin Spacey wasn’t Cameron’s actor this whole time??? Idk why I always thought he was for ages.
..... Nope
They look nothing alike lol
Derek is to confused about life he thinks he’s always thinking clearly but he’s just trading ignorance for ignorance
“I won’t have to. He’ll come to me. I’m more important to him now than you’ll ever be”. Man, Cameron was just asking to get punched after saying something like that!
Top 10 greatest movies imo
"You dont have to watch your ass around here" - fked up
Actually the part of his life that he lost was between meeting cam and his first day in jail. The 3 years he spent in jail was a very valuable time for him