Pitt’s character was based on a real Green Beret who actually got brought on to the show because he could hang combatively with Bruce. And Ali would have kicked the crap out of Bruce had they gone at it.
That’s the guy I read about. I don’t think we’re saying anything different. That guy was tough. Bruce respected him. Maybe Bruce could have broke him in 2. I have no idea. I agree that knowing his to fight different ways probably can only help a great deal. That’s the martial-arts training I always got. Ali’s on another level though. That level of talent is not seen in martial-arts joints. That comes from God, not study and practice.
Gene LeBell and Bruce Lee got into a sparring match on the set of the "The Green Hornet" that ended with Gene carrying Bruce around over his head while Bruce helplessly cursed at him. This scene is a retelling with Cliff as Gene, as told from Cliff's possibly unreliable perspective. In real life Lee and LeBell were good friends. Gene LeBell also allegedly choked out Steven Seagal until he shit himself on a movie set under similar circumstances.
I mean, if it was just a scene car he could have, accidents happens, they would have just repaired it or used another which cost nothing to a production, compared to the cost of a movie.
Yeah that’s what happens if you try to do a flying kick or almost any other kick (if it’s above the waist I think) in a real fight; someone can just pick it up and throw you to the ground otherwise it’s really easy to defend against
I think it's really funny how all the witnesses to this event all disappear immediately after Cliff throws Bruce into Janets car, everyone knew what was going to happen next and they didn't want any part of it.
This is a true incident. The other guy is a stunt master and then they became good friends. Bruce was my childhood here and inspired me into martial arts and I still admire him but older I get more I realize that Bruce was an actor with marvelous skills who never fought in a ring while Ali was a true fighter. I would put my bet on Ali. Also, Boxing is a lot more affective in an actual fight. Also Ali 6"3 (191 cm) which is a huge advantage in a real fight.
@@nicholasmuro1742 Ion know about sucked considering it mainlined 7.5 - 8/10. Movie was good but pacing was one of it's big flaws. Also this is far from QT's worst lmao. Watch From Dusk Till Dawn if you want a sense of his worst.
Here's the thing: IRL, Bruce was a big shit talker and it was well known in martial arts circles in the 60s. I find it interesting there's a whole cadre of folks who came out of the woodwork when this film dropped defending him. Yes, we all know its the TarantinoVerse so its fictionalized, but he did blow his mouth quite a bit...
😂😂😂maaan! Why was ppl mad about this.😂😂😂😂this junt was hilarious. I’m sorry it had my crying😂😂 and the part when Bruce said: no one was beating the ish out of Bruce with that facial expression had me hurtin😂😂😂😂 I dnt see why some folks was mad
Technically speaking, Bruce won the fight because he put Cliff on his butt first. Also, there’s no way that Bruce would try the same, telegraphed kick again, just because Cliff tells him to try that again. It’s silly, but still good for a laugh.
Cliff is a veteran. He killed a lot of Japanese in the War. Trained very well with guns and fighting skills. Man is calm and patience. That is dangerous man. I'm gonna say this once. Both of them were tied. No winner because of Janet interference 😂
The following isn't why the Lee fight happened but the novelization of the film written by QT (recommended btw) talks about the fight and what Cliff Booth was known for in the biz and why he may not have cared about goading Bruce. (Later. the novel also describes how Booth was able to trick Bruce into the doing the same move a second time which led to Lee's introduction to the passenger side door). From Page 203: "Number three on the list of things that Cliff Booth was known for inside the stunt community were his talents as a "ringer". As a ringer, Cliff Booth was the best in the sixties' film industry. What's a ringer? Don't try looking it up, it's an unofficial term. Well, say you're a stunt gaffer and you're working with a real a hole director who yells at your dudes all the time. Or with some f'n richard head actor who keeps tagging your dudes and blames THEM for his mistake. Now, the stunt gaffer or anyone on his team can't knock the director's block off or punch the actor back when they get tagged. But what the stunt gaffer can do is hire a stunt player for the day (not one of the gaffer's team). And that dude is a ringer. And he can do what the stunt team can't. Which is basically f the crap outa the a hole, preferably in front of the whole crew."
However, the book also says he got in Trouble specifically because he wasn't a ringer in this scene, additionally why he never got more stu t work in Hollywood
@@judewakefield7213 Yup. Agreed. This flashback was meant to give us more character exposition on why he was not wanted on sets (and introduce how he was heavily suspected of killing his wife - in the flashback within the flashback) as well as how formidable he was. Which is why it 'really did happen' in the context of the film's story telling and was NOT some daydream by Booth.
@@SongJiangShiJin regardless, the scene sucks. The only reason why people talk about it is because it’s done by Tarantino. This is a perfect example of the Emperor’s new clothes!
Quentin Tarantino reportedly intended for Bruce to experience a decisive defeat in the fight scene, highlighting Bruce's arrogance and disdain for American stuntmen. Bruce allegedly engaged in physical altercations with stuntmen, perhaps due to his perception of them as lacking dedication to their craft and not willing to put their lives on the line. While I admire Bruce's endeavors in filmmaking and his attempts to address the rising anti-Chinese sentiments in America, I believe it is important to acknowledge and respect American stuntmen. Americans are not inherently weak or lacking in motivation; rather, they may simply choose not to pursue the same extreme methods as Bruce. Though I appreciate the sentiment behind Bruce's actions, I do wish that the original vision of him losing the fight had been realized, rather than simply being humiliated in a stalemate. The lack of interest from Americans in subjecting themselves to punishing stunts does not equate to weakness on their part.
@@Fade2Dark Bruce was admired and beloved actor, ofc nobody wants to see a childhood hero be defeated, not even Brad Pitt. But the original scene was too big for Pitt to judge. Once upon a time is trying to expose the reality of Hollywood. And the reality is that Bruce, despite his dedication and training, was still a a fairly small and average build Chinese-American actor. People even say Bruce could defeat Muhammad Ali in his prime. Muhammad Ali, the 6’3 heavyweight boxer. Maybe the motive behind the original scene was in bad taste, but Bruce often attacked and even fought with his stuntman on set. Bruce was no saint and more then likely his own fame and hype made him feel like nobody was as talented as him
@@Fade2Dark idk about that. If a man who knows jujitsu, karate, and or kickboxing, went up against a 6’3, 230 pound man at a bar and started fighting, it could go either way. Just because you know how to look good in pads and heavy bags, doesn’t mean your ready to fight a man with intent to cause harm. Muhammad Ail was a big man. Very tall and disciplined fighter. If he’s opponent was a 5’8, 140 pound fighter, knowing any form of martial arts isn’t enough in a real fight. I’m just trying to highlight the flaws in thinking that being an actor means being a actual fighter. Bruce Lee would also get defeated by most UFC fighters of today. So your point also exposes Bruce Lee’s limitations as Ali’s.
@@Tripod9648 Mike Tyson’s first opponent was an experienced fighter. Tyson defeated him without any prior fights. His victory was solely dependent on training and not experience. The only opinions that are flawed are your own. Also, watch Michael Page’s ufc highlights. It exposes mma fighters. They’re all trash.
No. They never fought. Lebell snuck up behind Bruce and used a grapple. Bruce told him to release the lock and he did. Bruce then became a student of lebell for a whole year. No fight ever took place.
@@hotdog9262 I meant newer cars not new (spell check) you never saw my Peugeot 206, I’d beg to differ it was a shitbox that would crumple if you knuckle tapped it 🤣
Such a great scene. Kurt and Zoe working together and directed by Quintin again is pure gold. While Quintin expressed his side that if it were a pure boxing match- absolutely 100% true, Clay would obliterate Bruce. If it were open combat AND back then, pre-internet- would Clay have known to beware of the triangle choke that Bruce would have tried using??? Just sayin
Ali, not Clay (he hates that slave name), was probably faster than Bruce with his punching speed. It takes Ali 1/6th of a second to punch 2 feet into the distance and break a board. I don't think people realize that Ali was a pretty hard puncher, but he almost never used his punching force as he preferred gauging his opponents and toying with them. He also took full-on punches from George Foreman, a guy who had 40-0, and 37 of those wins were knockouts, reporting that when he punched Ali in the jaw, Ali turned to his ear and whispered, "Is that all, George?" The point is, however talented Bruce Lee is, there isn't any circumstance where he'd win against Ali unless he fought the tired one who fought against Holmes. Ali from 20-35 would've smoked Bruce Lee.
To grapple with him, Lee would have had great difficulty getting inside Ali's guard without absorbing blows he couldn't afford to take. Ali had preternatural speed to go with his height and reach. There's a reason MMA has weight-classes. Despite popular-media commonly portraying Davids defeating Goliaths, in reality it's implausible without some sort of force multiplier on the side of the David. Even David himself needed the sling and stone.
@@jackalmighty3840 Yes he wanted to be called Muhammad because he thought he was a higher being and wanted to have affairs with 16 year old girls. Doesn't really matter what he wanted
@@goldytwatus1674 It's not that he "thought" he was a "higher being," he actually was far more talented than the next best guy, i.e., Joe Louis. Anyone who thinks the guy imagined himself as a "higher being" is absolutely delusional and certifiable. At the time, being involved with 16-year-old chicks was not uncommon, and it was of a different nature than Internet predators grooming kids for years, which, I'm sure, you have experience with. Don't call the guy by his slave name, especially when you wouldn't dare mouth him off if he were 32 years old in the same boxing ring as you.
@@lukaszpokoju Arrogant attitude definitely 1000% Bruce Lee. Even before he got to America, Bruce Lee was known to be an arrogant little prick that even before he was taught by the legendary Ip Man his skill, he just barged into Ip Man's roof and asked Ip's top student, Ah Leung (Leung Sheung) to spar with him. Bruce was reported to be quick with his fists and powerful sweeping leg strikes but was lacking techniques in his every move and Ah Leung countered it quite well despite suffering some strikes from Bruce himself. Ip Man then felt that Bruce has great potential and kept him as one of his students with both Wong Shun-leung (Different fella from Leung Sheung) and Ip Man tutoring him at the same time with Wong teaching him the fundamentals and Ip Man dragging his attitude down. Despite Ip Man's consistent teachings, Bruce Lee's arrogance attitude never backed down and as he got to the US, he got ever more brazen and flamboyant. Plus he did in fact gained tons of respect and hatred towards him across the US Martial Arts scene from various styles which includes Taekwando, Karate and even Judo. All that was built thru sheer arrogance thus what they portrayed in that movie about his cockiness? Absolutely 1000% accurate.
One hilarious thing that most people miss in this scene is that once Janet shows up, the whole crew just instantly vanishes. They all knew better than to hang around once she showed up.
@@1who4me Sounds like him to me, its a great scene, it was never meant to be historically accurate but ya'll still got tilted when he was folded against that car, its funny, take a pill.
the book explains that he got away from 3 murders, and the police just never bother to questioned him because of his reputable war hero background. like there is a flashback scene where he literally blasts some guy in a restaurant in front of everyone, and later explains it to police that he did in self defense and they just let him go lol
They probably are connected. Don’t you know about the TARANTINOVERSE? Its a universe where all the tarantino films exist but here’s the catch: some movies that we watched are the actual real events that happen in this universe (Pulp, Once upon a time…) and then you have some movies that we watched which exist as a movie in this fictional universe. Mia is marcelus wife and also plays the bride in Kill Bill. Here i think it can be explained that DeathProof was KurtRussell in his younger years, starring in the movies before moving on to work behind the scenes in once upon a time in hollywood.
I love how purely depressed Cliff looks in every single scene but as soon as he opens his mouth or takes charge of the moment he's this chipper, sarcastic goofball with some actual worldliness and capability to back up his tough-guy attitude. Its nice to see a down-in-the-dumps man making an effort to put some spark into his life especially after losing his beloved wife in a tragic boating "accident"
Not just that but the short fight was actually going somewhere. It seems both were quite enjoying it. A fight both sides enjoy is rare, wouldve been great to let them finish it.
Let me start by saying that this is an excellent movie, Cliff is an incredibly nuanced and deep character and Brad Pitt did a great job. But let me also say this: Cliff is a depressed socoipath loser that spends every part of his day waiting for an excuse to be violent. The fact that so many people think he is someone worth emulating or looking up in the comment sections of these videos and review of these movies is genuinely sad to see. It is the same thing with all the Frank Castle (Punisher) and Tyler Durden (Fight Club) worshippers. These are characters that were created as a form of criticism and the fact that so many people miss the message behind them only to end up "admiring" them for all the wrong reasons is a terrible reflection of the state of our society. A bunch of insecure men who think that "being badass" and excessive violence are a replacement for a real personality and like to pretend they could or should be just like those guys on the screen. It is sad.
@Kenneth Liu Thanks a lot! Now all I can see is Godzilla in a suit sitting next to a nervously sweating Mothra at night club table while an annoying Ghidorah keeps bringing up a $3,000 bar tab….
@@celebrim1 Dude the entire fucking scene is meant to be comical. The banter between the both of them, the comical fight, and the reactions of the production crew
I always had a problem with it, since Lee could could make any black belt run away in fear for their lives. That's documented on camera during his matches. But this ultimately won me over. It was fun seeing Bruce, even in cartoon form, and they don't even make roles like this for actors like Pitt anymore. Only actresses.
@@wanderingsage-x4z Bruce doesn't have any documented fights, certainly not on camera. Your inner casual is showing. Lee couldn't fight. The one time he tried to prove that he could, he literally fled out of the ring against Hong Jack Man. Out of seven witnesses, only Bruce and his wife claimed otherwise. And so to settle the debate, Hong Jack Man offered a public rematch, which Bruce rejected. That already proves he was a bullshido artist. So by all means his only "documented" fight had him humiliated. Seeing people call him the grandfather of MMA is ridiculous. The Gracies were mixing martial arts before Bruce, and they probably got the idea from the Greeks who literally had their own form of MMA which consisted of wrestling and boxing both. Bruce is the world's greatest con artist ever. A 130lbs actor who lost the one amateur bout he ever fought in disgraceful fashion who somehow has the world to this day convinced he was the greatest fighter that ever lived. Tarantino portrayed him perfectly. A little man with a big mouth.
It's what Tarantino does, he inserts his own bullshit fantasy into real history and then claims "it was an artistic vision"! Everything this guy made after Pulp Fiction is complete trash, people suck it up because of the hype, they can't think for themselves! By the way, this worthless human being called Tarantino publicly defends his pedophille buddy Polansky from the time he raped a 15 years old girl, wich leads me to believe he may be a pedo himself, would not be surprising considering Hollywood is fertile ground for sexual predators!
That is literally what is happening. Tarantino basically has Al Pacino explain it to Leo during the restaurant scene at the beginning--the only reason Leo's getting TV work doing bad guys is because the network wants to introduce new guys, have them kick Leo's ass, and show how tough they are to the viewers. Tarantino is doing the exact same thing here with Bruce Lee and Pitt.
He prob coulda whooped him irl too though. The mainstream public didn't know as much about weight classes and even basic physics back in Bruce Lee's day as they do now lmao.
@@stevenlindsay23 It was an interview with Pit. Tarantino wasn’t there so who knows if this was crucial to him or if Pit was kind of joking. Good movie though.
@@JD_tcbbut people also forget about skills, physical condition and experience. I am pretty sure that TJ Dillashaw who is the same weight division as BL would KO Brad. Mighty Mouse DJ won in BJJ match against 6.3 guy. The weightclass of course improtant but only if there are not bug difference in experience and skills. I am 170 cm and have 8 years martial arts (3 years karate 1 year judo and 4 years of MMA) experience and had to beat up my classmates who was trained and pretty sporty and bigger than me but didn't have any martial arts experience.
There's a whole list of really bad characters in movies drinking milk before killing people. Tarantino is foreshadowing what will follow by having him drink milk. I would go as far as to suggest that him drinking milk may be a way for the script writer to imply that Cliff is actually evil and did murder his wife. Clockwork orange, inglorious bastards, leon, no country for old men, there will be blood, get out etc. Some suggest it all started with the rumors that Hitler always drank milk before going to sleep.
Milk is a symbol of innocence, purity, childhood, etc. The fact that Brad Pitt is consuming it in this scene IS funny. He’s a stuntman. Usually you think a stunt man should be a bad ass. Then you have Bruce, that is supposed to be a bad ass, boasting, which is very childish. Brad is cool, calm, collected and drinking a little carton of milk because he knows he could beat his little, childish ass (and proceeds to do so)
This scene is so extraordinary because for 4 minutes straight it is just one shot. Until Bruce Lee gets thrown into the car that was one take! Think of all the dialogue that make up 4 minutes. Tarantino knows what he's doing when it comes to Actors, that's for sure.
I love the sound in this. The squish of the leather glove, the bong when Cliff sets his milk carton down on the diamond plate, Lee popping his hip into place.
Small thing, but for some reason I love the way Cliff isn’t doing this just to showboat. When he laughs at Bruce’s boast about crippling Muhammad Ali, he doesn’t do it loudly or in his face, he kinda just laughs to himself and appears genuinely amused. Then uses the opportunity to stand up once he’s confronted. I don’t know. I just love Cliff’s character and Pitt’s performance, every nuance of it. Such an awesome character.
That’s because Cliff was a killing machine in WW2 and from the GI Generation that generation was stoic and tough lived through hardship.Bruce was from a different generation.
@@sloopydoopy7318 Bruce Lee is so legendary it turns people into complete morons. There's a reason combat sports have weight classes. Skill doesn't matter when a guy is a foot taller than you and a 100 lbs heavier.
I read stories that during Bruce era there were asian actors with much more potential, but Bruce simply knew how to market himself and made him convincing enough.
The thing to keep in mind is that, at this point in his career, Hollywood considers Bruce a jumped-up stuntman who got lucky with a role in a TV series. The scene takes place years before 'Dragon' hit big internationally.
As a reader of Lee its wack and cringe. Is BJJ great, yeah. Does Jon Jones use the Lee DLC eye jab, savate inside knee kick? Yup. As a reader of Lee, of course the wacky Zen absurdity is amusing, and Saint Lee is just as ridiculous as Lee That Does Not Street Fight. Street fights were common til the end of the 90s. Not like bragging, but yes 50s Hong Kong was probably differernt to these Broccoli MmA ExpeRt record demanders.
Im reality, Lee was so rough during filming the other actors talked stuff about him. He lost it and challenged them to a real fight but the Western actors were escorted to safety. He had a Hong Kong film mentality and was a bruiser who did not pull punches, til they talked it over. Tarantino is a great Western comdian, Lee is a legenadary immortal in several fields, outdoing Quent before birth in film.
@@JWlloski-d8r bruce never actually fought competitively.....never took on REAL fighters. i'd go easy on that "was a bruiser that did not pull punches" nonsense.
Love the stunt people Easter eggs in this scene. The scene is about Cliff (a stunt man). Kurt Russell played Stunt man Mike in another QT movie (death proof) and Zoe Bell has been a stunt person for QT for years
yo i had to look up Zoe Bell to check what her gender identity is, since you used stunt person instead of stuntwoman. i thought she was into those pronouns thing
This is a fun scene. It’s combining an entertaining charicature (spelling?) of Bruce Lee with a serious bit and then back to comedy as they both get in trouble and try covering their asses but also see they’re trying to protect each other as they’ve developed a deal of mutual respect through fighting. It’s silly but it’s fun. On a side note, the real Bruce Lee had a huge amount of respect for professional boxers and Muhammad Ali specifically. Once, when asked if he was ever going to try beating Ali in a fight, Bruce responded something to the effect of “No way, he’d kill me! Look at his hands! I’ve got little Asian hands!” “Racism” aside, Bruce is using self deprecating humor to point out the realities of why weight classes exist in most competitive fighting sports. Technique is certainly important but it can only get you so far. There’s a reason that Bruce Lee did a LOT of weight training in addition to his martial arts and when you have someone as technically skilled as Muhammad Ali who’s ALSO very large and strong, there’s no easy way to overcome that with martial arts techniques alone
Bruce lee was simply a fake fighter who some how fooled anyone without ever showcasing anything other than his ability to fight in scripted scenes 😂 Bruce knew how to play the character down to a tea, funny how the movie here is also basically pointing that out but in a joking matter but if you know than you know basically 😂
@@avalac7412well he definitely was not a fake fighter. But he definitely did realize the better way of showcasing his abilities to make money and movies instead of fighting to his death
@@avalac7412I won’t go so far as to call Lee a fake, but I will say that anyone who excels at the highest level in sports like boxing, mma, muy thai, etc, is as real as it gets. Ali DID do the thing of going around telling everyone he was the best, but then he’d have to climb in a ring multiple times a year and publicly back that shit up, no excuses, no rumors about what happened.
Bruce was actually trying to protect Cliff at that point from her and be a stand up guy. “Barley touched me….” And then Cliff ruins it, most likely thinking Bruce is trying to one up him, and brings attention to the dented car.
@@NikoNeznanovich if bruce lee fought at real Brad Pitt would be murdered him even with tight hands. Pitt hasnt idea about martial arts. The one was master eho becamed an actor and the other just an actor who hadnt idea... Stefanou out
@@serafeimstefanou5877 I don't think anyone here is saying that the actor Brad Pitt could beat the martial artist Bruce Lee. But in the movie, his character could. It's not supposed to be realistic anyway
@@serafeimstefanou5877 Size and weight class plays huge in this. No, little Asian dudes are not going to 'kill' him. It's comical when they think they can. It's often manifested from a cultural inferiority complex.
Really weird scene. Why was it necessary to have some emasculating tough guy crap just to shit on the legacy of a guy who, by all accounts was pretty humble? Feels weirdly racial, too.
The best part of this scene is the fact that Randy seems almost afraid of cliff. While his wife is telling cliff to "get fu**ed" Randy is a bit more reserved by repeating most of what she said but just telling him to "get off the lot". Great screenwriting.
men are more polite than ladies even in position of power, because men knows that being (don´t know the word in english) umpolite always could end in a fight.
I feel it's more like Janet had absolutely no respect for Cliff and hates him, since she believes he murdered his wife and got away with it, she's also really angry at Cliff over him messing up her car. Randy has a little bit of respect for Cliff, because he respects Rick, and Rick vouched for Cliff in the trailer before this scene. Randy was also friendly towards Cliff when they met outside Rick's trailer, implying they have some history together.
I love how Quintin always overdos stuff to a cartoonist level. The car Lee is thrown in to by Cliff looks like it was hit with a Harley! Always fun to watch his stuff
@@OroborusFMAbut not every director could take so much stuff and make it seem their own. Tarantino is an artist indeed, don't care about elitists telling me I'm basic for dick riding this guy
The little guy with the giant vest moves from the back corner of the car and when Bruce damages the car he walks all the way over to the phone. Everyone runs because they know he's a snitch and the boss is coming. You can see him on the phone when Janet comes in.
Stupid scene. Tarantino is clearly a Bruce Lee hater. Racist? There’s not enough conclusive evidence. Regardless, Cliff beating up Bruce isn’t surprising: he is the bigger man. Believe it or not, folks: size matters. Plus, the contest Bruce agrees with him favours Cliff.
TBH, I didn't like this movie. In fact, it was so bad I didn't make it to the end. Even this scene is pretty awful and quite pointless, unless the objective was to humiliate Bruce Lee.
The controversy was stirred up by Bruce Lee fans who don't understand Tarantino's sense of humor. The main point of the scene is to establish for the audience that Cliff has got serious chops, which it accomplishes using a bit of historical fantasy, thereby also foreshadowing the similarly reimagined history at the end of the film.
@@VanLupen The controversy I read about concerned the fact that Quentin had the "audacity" to create an incident that never took place wherein Bruce was depicted as a pompous braggart and a fictional stuntman was able to "take him down a notch". It was deemed "disrespectful" to the memory of Bruce by many of his legions of fans (including some of his family). I think Quentin didn't care one way or the other about how Bruce actually behaved, he wrote the scene to create a fictional alternative to the legend of Bruce to serve the purposes of his movie. To QT, in this film, "Bruce Lee" is merely an archetype to serve as fodder for his imagination and create interesting cinema. I have no idea how he thought Bruce actually behaved, but I'm sure he knew exactly what he was doing when he wrote this scene. Quentin not only does not respect historical accuracy in his films, he purposely spits on and reinvents it, just for fun. But it only works for an audience that's on board with the game. For those who aren't, they take it at face value, and get all confused and bent out of shape.
@@davidjorgensen877 reason why this was shown is ,that Bruce Was always taging stunt men and really hurting them showing very little respect for them ,
@@davidjorgensen877”spits on them” calm down buddy. Qt does not give a shit of what you deemed disrespectful. He doesn’t get bogged down by these “historical facts” he just focuses on making a good movie
I like the scene, but I don't like how they made Bruce to be a douchebag; he wasn't like that in real life and this isn't how he looked when he was doing "The Green Hornet."
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this man played Bruce Lee very well.. why did they have Brad Pitt hit him...
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Did you watch the clip? Bruce challenged him. And he accepted.
Pitt’s character was based on a real Green Beret who actually got brought on to the show because he could hang combatively with Bruce.
And Ali would have kicked the crap out of Bruce had they gone at it.
That’s the guy I read about. I don’t think we’re saying anything different. That guy was tough. Bruce respected him. Maybe Bruce could have broke him in 2. I have no idea.
I agree that knowing his to fight different ways probably can only help a great deal. That’s the martial-arts training I always got.
Ali’s on another level though. That level of talent is not seen in martial-arts joints. That comes from God, not study and practice.
Gene LeBell and Bruce Lee got into a sparring match on the set of the "The Green Hornet" that ended with Gene carrying Bruce around over his head while Bruce helplessly cursed at him. This scene is a retelling with Cliff as Gene, as told from Cliff's possibly unreliable perspective. In real life Lee and LeBell were good friends. Gene LeBell also allegedly choked out Steven Seagal until he shit himself on a movie set under similar circumstances.
It’s almost frightening how much he looks like Bruce with his glasses on and how much he looks nothing like him with them off lol.
His eyes lack that dangerous edge that Bruce had.
@@sonamtashi7706 He lacks almost everything that Bruce had, including most obviously his humility and brains.
Why would that be frightening?
His face is way too long and his jaw is way too long
too tall
I love the way he says "But I did not know it was her car" as if that's going to get him off the hook.
I mean, if it was just a scene car he could have, accidents happens, they would have just repaired it or used another which cost nothing to a production, compared to the cost of a movie.
First time I saw this I expected him to say if he'd have known he'd have thrown him harder 😂
Yeah that’s what happens if you try to do a flying kick or almost any other kick (if it’s above the waist I think) in a real fight; someone can just pick it up and throw you to the ground otherwise it’s really easy to defend against
Her car could’ve been fixed. If they actually paid the stunt men a decent living he could’ve made to have it fixed that same day.
YOU'LL HANG FOR THIS!
Naw, more like chewed out. I'm been chewed out before.
Dawg the way Kurt Russel says “Cliff..... what the *FUCK* maaan??!” is so fucking perfect 😂😭 he sounds so hurt and betrayed
This is the second best scene in the movie. Right after Rick taking a flamethrower out of his pool house and using it on the Manson family.
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Him and Lee should've beaten the crap outta the Masons. You're gonna go real life fanfiction you go all the way.
It's the only good scene.
and DiCaprio in the trailer
Movie is horrible
I think it's really funny how all the witnesses to this event all disappear immediately after Cliff throws Bruce into Janets car, everyone knew what was going to happen next and they didn't want any part of it.
This is a true incident. The other guy is a stunt master and then they became good friends. Bruce was my childhood here and inspired me into martial arts and I still admire him but older I get more I realize that Bruce was an actor with marvelous skills who never fought in a ring while Ali was a true fighter. I would put my bet on Ali. Also, Boxing is a lot more affective in an actual fight. Also Ali 6"3 (191 cm) which is a huge advantage in a real fight.
That’s the heaviest milk carton ever
I heard that. Even completely full No way it makes that noise. Funny. The little things you notice
Ain’t no regular milk he drinking.
It's an anime moment where the character takes off the weights before the fight, that carton actually weights 50kg and he carries it all the time.
And the weakest car door... In the 60s ?
@@joeltheowl3299 Gotta start carrying weighted milk cartons around then
Comedy Gold. Busting audience expectations creates the best comedy.
For those who don't know, this is Quentin Tarantino's favourite film that he's made.
Can't blame him. It's a wonderful blend of every film he's ever done.
Isn't the latest film always the directors favourite? I'm sure he'll say the same about the next one.
That's kind of sad considering it pales in comparison to many of his movies.
@@zebraneighbor6383
This movie sucked. It's QT's worst. This is the best scene in the whole movie. The only good scene. Maybe the ending too.
@@nicholasmuro1742 Ion know about sucked considering it mainlined 7.5 - 8/10. Movie was good but pacing was one of it's big flaws. Also this is far from QT's worst lmao. Watch From Dusk Till Dawn if you want a sense of his worst.
The only thing missing from this scene is a glass of milk.😂😂
A lot of people do not realize that once the fear of pain gets trained out of a man, he becomes pretty scary.
Here's the thing: IRL, Bruce was a big shit talker and it was well known in martial arts circles in the 60s. I find it interesting there's a whole cadre of folks who came out of the woodwork when this film dropped defending him. Yes, we all know its the TarantinoVerse so its fictionalized, but he did blow his mouth quite a bit...
😂😂😂maaan! Why was ppl mad about this.😂😂😂😂this junt was hilarious. I’m sorry it had my crying😂😂 and the part when Bruce said: no one was beating the ish out of Bruce with that facial expression had me hurtin😂😂😂😂 I dnt see why some folks was mad
Who complains doesn't understand that Cliff has super human strenght, he's not a normal person
The way Randy handle it, just repeating his wife saying just 😁😁😁😁
Greatest movie ever. "Your wife-killing buddy boy".
Technically speaking, Bruce won the fight because he put Cliff on his butt first. Also, there’s no way that Bruce would try the same, telegraphed kick again, just because Cliff tells him to try that again. It’s silly, but still good for a laugh.
Cliff is a veteran. He killed a lot of Japanese in the War.
Trained very well with guns and fighting skills. Man is calm and patience. That is dangerous man.
I'm gonna say this once. Both of them were tied. No winner because of Janet interference 😂
2 out of three so you are wrong
@@gorylek198yup. Bruce put him on his ass. Cliff threw him into the door. If ANYBODY won...it was Cliff.
@@aaronpatterson2369 also no. 2 out of three. They had 1 each. Nobody won. They got interrupted.
The following isn't why the Lee fight happened but the novelization of the film written by QT (recommended btw) talks about the fight and what Cliff Booth was known for in the biz and why he may not have cared about goading Bruce. (Later. the novel also describes how Booth was able to trick Bruce into the doing the same move a second time which led to Lee's introduction to the passenger side door).
From Page 203:
"Number three on the list of things that Cliff Booth was known for inside the stunt community were his talents as a "ringer".
As a ringer, Cliff Booth was the best in the sixties' film industry.
What's a ringer? Don't try looking it up, it's an unofficial term.
Well, say you're a stunt gaffer and you're working with a real a hole director who yells at your dudes all the time. Or with some f'n richard head actor who keeps tagging your dudes and blames THEM for his mistake. Now, the stunt gaffer or anyone on his team can't knock the director's block off or punch the actor back when they get tagged.
But what the stunt gaffer can do is hire a stunt player for the day (not one of the gaffer's team). And that dude is a ringer.
And he can do what the stunt team can't. Which is basically f the crap outa the a hole, preferably in front of the whole crew."
Great insight, thanks
However, the book also says he got in Trouble specifically because he wasn't a ringer in this scene, additionally why he never got more stu t work in Hollywood
@@judewakefield7213 Yup. Agreed. This flashback was meant to give us more character exposition on why he was not wanted on sets (and introduce how he was heavily suspected of killing his wife - in the flashback within the flashback) as well as how formidable he was. Which is why it 'really did happen' in the context of the film's story telling and was NOT some daydream by Booth.
This scene NEVER gets old
It's an embarrassment of a scene. A total disrespect to Bruce. Worst part of the movie for sure.
@@decimustv4257"a disrespect to Bruce" lol, yes if you buy into the bs of the undefeated champ (that never fought)
@@SongJiangShiJin regardless, the scene sucks. The only reason why people talk about it is because it’s done by Tarantino. This is a perfect example of the Emperor’s new clothes!
@@decimustv4257 what are you on? Got pissy because your idol was mocked? Its worth funny scene in a great movie. It's a lighthearted jest
@@SongJiangShiJin never fought? Gary elms. Wong Jackman. The list goes on. You might as well deny the earth is round while you’re at it.
Pitt reprising his role as Lt Aldo Raine 😂
Brad Pitt was wearing Bollywood hero plot armour.
The real Bruce Lee often said Ali would beat him.
Quentin Tarantino reportedly intended for Bruce to experience a decisive defeat in the fight scene, highlighting Bruce's arrogance and disdain for American stuntmen. Bruce allegedly engaged in physical altercations with stuntmen, perhaps due to his perception of them as lacking dedication to their craft and not willing to put their lives on the line. While I admire Bruce's endeavors in filmmaking and his attempts to address the rising anti-Chinese sentiments in America, I believe it is important to acknowledge and respect American stuntmen. Americans are not inherently weak or lacking in motivation; rather, they may simply choose not to pursue the same extreme methods as Bruce. Though I appreciate the sentiment behind Bruce's actions, I do wish that the original vision of him losing the fight had been realized, rather than simply being humiliated in a stalemate. The lack of interest from Americans in subjecting themselves to punishing stunts does not equate to weakness on their part.
Pitt didn’t even want to do this scene.
@@Fade2Dark Bruce was admired and beloved actor, ofc nobody wants to see a childhood hero be defeated, not even Brad Pitt. But the original scene was too big for Pitt to judge. Once upon a time is trying to expose the reality of Hollywood. And the reality is that Bruce, despite his dedication and training, was still a a fairly small and average build Chinese-American actor. People even say Bruce could defeat Muhammad Ali in his prime. Muhammad Ali, the 6’3 heavyweight boxer. Maybe the motive behind the original scene was in bad taste, but Bruce often attacked and even fought with his stuntman on set. Bruce was no saint and more then likely his own fame and hype made him feel like nobody was as talented as him
@@Tripod9648 Muhamed Ali was over rated. He accepted a challenge from a karate kick boxer under the conditions they couldn’t grapple or kick. Pathetic
@@Fade2Dark idk about that. If a man who knows jujitsu, karate, and or kickboxing, went up against a 6’3, 230 pound man at a bar and started fighting, it could go either way. Just because you know how to look good in pads and heavy bags, doesn’t mean your ready to fight a man with intent to cause harm. Muhammad Ail was a big man. Very tall and disciplined fighter. If he’s opponent was a 5’8, 140 pound fighter, knowing any form of martial arts isn’t enough in a real fight. I’m just trying to highlight the flaws in thinking that being an actor means being a actual fighter. Bruce Lee would also get defeated by most UFC fighters of today. So your point also exposes Bruce Lee’s limitations as Ali’s.
@@Tripod9648 Mike Tyson’s first opponent was an experienced fighter. Tyson defeated him without any prior fights. His victory was solely dependent on training and not experience. The only opinions that are flawed are your own. Also, watch Michael Page’s ufc highlights. It exposes mma fighters. They’re all trash.
This shit will forever be funny
? No one said anything funny. The scene was played serious. What was funny?
@@celebrim1 an adult man tossing another adult man into the side of a car. The only way this would be funnier is if it was a midget 😂
@@celebrim1 mneassss it was very insightful and intellectual mneasssss
How "Once Upon a Time in Hollywood" happened
Brad: Hey Quentin, can you make a movie where I can play a badass guy?
Tarantino: Say no more
Bruce Lee got mouthy with Gene Lebell onset and something like this happen, Bruce Lee didn’t get beat up by a random dude he got beat up by a judoka.
No. They never fought. Lebell snuck up behind Bruce and used a grapple. Bruce told him to release the lock and he did. Bruce then became a student of lebell for a whole year. No fight ever took place.
he isn't heavy enough to have made that dent in that car
Not in a classic car. A new car maybe they crumple easily to protect the driver.
@@johnsonandyjohnson not even close, even in a new car. especially a featherweight like that
@@hotdog9262 I meant newer cars not new (spell check) you never saw my Peugeot 206, I’d beg to differ it was a shitbox that would crumple if you knuckle tapped it 🤣
@@johnsonandyjohnson ill take your word for it :)
@@hotdog9262 Chuckle...it wouldn't be only the weight...it would be the speed as being thrown into the car. :)
It's the fact that Bruce Lee would never talk sh*t about boxers unlike in here
3:08 I thought that was Brad’s real hair at first lmao
Such a great scene. Kurt and Zoe working together and directed by Quintin again is pure gold.
While Quintin expressed his side that if it were a pure boxing match- absolutely 100% true, Clay would obliterate Bruce. If it were open combat AND back then, pre-internet- would Clay have known to beware of the triangle choke that Bruce would have tried using??? Just sayin
Ali, not Clay (he hates that slave name), was probably faster than Bruce with his punching speed. It takes Ali 1/6th of a second to punch 2 feet into the distance and break a board. I don't think people realize that Ali was a pretty hard puncher, but he almost never used his punching force as he preferred gauging his opponents and toying with them. He also took full-on punches from George Foreman, a guy who had 40-0, and 37 of those wins were knockouts, reporting that when he punched Ali in the jaw, Ali turned to his ear and whispered, "Is that all, George?" The point is, however talented Bruce Lee is, there isn't any circumstance where he'd win against Ali unless he fought the tired one who fought against Holmes. Ali from 20-35 would've smoked Bruce Lee.
To grapple with him, Lee would have had great difficulty getting inside Ali's guard without absorbing blows he couldn't afford to take. Ali had preternatural speed to go with his height and reach.
There's a reason MMA has weight-classes. Despite popular-media commonly portraying Davids defeating Goliaths, in reality it's implausible without some sort of force multiplier on the side of the David. Even David himself needed the sling and stone.
Ali was 2 times bigger than Bruce Lee....there is no reality where lee chokes him
@@jackalmighty3840 Yes he wanted to be called Muhammad because he thought he was a higher being and wanted to have affairs with 16 year old girls. Doesn't really matter what he wanted
@@goldytwatus1674 It's not that he "thought" he was a "higher being," he actually was far more talented than the next best guy, i.e., Joe Louis. Anyone who thinks the guy imagined himself as a "higher being" is absolutely delusional and certifiable. At the time, being involved with 16-year-old chicks was not uncommon, and it was of a different nature than Internet predators grooming kids for years, which, I'm sure, you have experience with. Don't call the guy by his slave name, especially when you wouldn't dare mouth him off if he were 32 years old in the same boxing ring as you.
Brad Pitt playing as a stuntman while having no idea how stuntman really works in reality.
3:20 Well that changed hah
Accurate representation
With sunglasses: 100% Bruce Lee
Without sunglasses: 40% Bruce Lee
Starts fighting: 0% Bruce Lee
Arrogant attitude : - 100% Bruce Lee
@@lukaszpokoju Arrogant attitude definitely 1000% Bruce Lee.
Even before he got to America, Bruce Lee was known to be an arrogant little prick that even before he was taught by the legendary Ip Man his skill, he just barged into Ip Man's roof and asked Ip's top student, Ah Leung (Leung Sheung) to spar with him.
Bruce was reported to be quick with his fists and powerful sweeping leg strikes but was lacking techniques in his every move and Ah Leung countered it quite well despite suffering some strikes from Bruce himself. Ip Man then felt that Bruce has great potential and kept him as one of his students with both Wong Shun-leung (Different fella from Leung Sheung) and Ip Man tutoring him at the same time with Wong teaching him the fundamentals and Ip Man dragging his attitude down.
Despite Ip Man's consistent teachings, Bruce Lee's arrogance attitude never backed down and as he got to the US, he got ever more brazen and flamboyant. Plus he did in fact gained tons of respect and hatred towards him across the US Martial Arts scene from various styles which includes Taekwando, Karate and even Judo. All that was built thru sheer arrogance thus what they portrayed in that movie about his cockiness? Absolutely 1000% accurate.
@@lukaszpokoju 0%
@Nawangwe he doesnt
what you talkin' about, he barely touched him!?!
Guess Bruce didn’t know Cliff was in a club that specializes in these types of things. 😂
I guess he never watched Fight Club 😂
@@Luke-kg7vu hey man did you forget the first rule already?
@@ZAH33Dhey did you forget the second rule already?
Everyone in here talking about the first 2 rules, I gotta take their balls. If you don’t have any, a pair may temporarily be provided for you.
Bruce doesnt like dawgs
"Let me just say, Nobody beat the shit out of Bruce" lmao I love that line
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Zoey and Kurt did the worst acting of their careers in this scene. I couldn't stop laughing 🤣
He’s not lying. A nobody beat the shit out of Bruce.
the dent in that car begs to differ.
That line stole the movie!
One hilarious thing that most people miss in this scene is that once Janet shows up, the whole crew just instantly vanishes. They all knew better than to hang around once she showed up.
Hah never noticed that before.
You're wrong there mate... They were gone the moment "nobody beat the shit out of Bruce". 😂
I always thought it was just part of Cliff’s fantasy where this actually didn’t happened the way he remembers it.
No they started to leave the moment Bruce hit Janet's car.
@@eradicatedpulse6896 its just to show real killers are underwhelming
Brad Pitt should’ve said Gorlomi when Bruce asked for his name
“Come again?”
“Really put some music into it this time!”
go lah mee
😅😅😅
Margaritiiiiiii
"Reever dear'chee!"
This whole scene feels like a child's power fantasy.
Bruce Lee is a fantasy, or at least people's perceptions of him.
Thats exactly why he was the perfect Worf.@@thirdhandlv4231
@hybridmomentz Why is it trash?
@@thirdhandlv4231because Bruce Lee would never talk like this or act this way. It’s Tarantino writing his own fan fiction
@@1who4me Sounds like him to me, its a great scene, it was never meant to be historically accurate but ya'll still got tilted when he was folded against that car, its funny, take a pill.
My favorite part is when Cliff is introduced as being famous for killing his wife and getting away with it, that's quite a rep.
The book actually goes into a lot of detail about Cliff's backstory. He was a pretty dark character that killed a lot of people in the war.
@@Dr.TJ_Eckleburg and killed some dudes in Chicago
the book explains that he got away from 3 murders, and the police just never bother to questioned him because of his reputable war hero background. like there is a flashback scene where he literally blasts some guy in a restaurant in front of everyone, and later explains it to police that he did in self defense and they just let him go lol
@@v-trigger6137 The book hmm. :D Maybe I ought to read it.
Kinda has an O.J. ring to it.
I don't care how small the part. Kurt Russell always delivers
This character is most likely related to Stuntman Mike from "Death Proof".
@@stevenhancock2822 lol no it isn't. His character in death proof was a psychopathic serial killer
They probably are connected. Don’t you know about the TARANTINOVERSE? Its a universe where all the tarantino films exist but here’s the catch: some movies that we watched are the actual real events that happen in this universe (Pulp, Once upon a time…) and then you have some movies that we watched which exist as a movie in this fictional universe. Mia is marcelus wife and also plays the bride in Kill Bill. Here i think it can be explained that DeathProof was KurtRussell in his younger years, starring in the movies before moving on to work behind the scenes in once upon a time in hollywood.
Should have been "Stuntman Mike's" brother "Stuntman Bob"
@@thomasgriffin2326 Later. That was 1969.
The guy playing Bruce Lee is a very good story teller. He had me hooked from the first line!
He should work on doing audio books or voice acting
Didn't notice what he was saying until I read your comment
@Samu Tyrväinen You are missing the point entirely
@@Throbbit I agree. And it's even more shameful at the end of the movie when Bruce reappears again.
@@ColinQuinsland
I think _you_ do... 😉
@@Throbbit is more real than Enter the dragon lmao
5:17 her reaction is priceless
"Oh my God, what the 🍾 did you do to my car?!"
@@JohnFortniteKennedy_
“what the fuck did you do to her car?!”
Cliff imitating Bruce at 04:24 is easy to overlook but so funny once you see it.
HAHAAHAHA I never realised that, thats fuckin' mint
Haha, indeed! Never caught that
Lol!.
Thanks, I just noticed it cause of you and I'm drying bro LOLOL
JUST SEEN IT..OMG
Pitt’s “Yea, ya kinda did…” is becoming a trademark of his but it’s always hilarious 😂😂😂
What are you referring to?
He's referring to, "Yea ya kinda did" line. Not sound like an asshole but did you not read what he said?
@@Rufio1975 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@Rufio1975 He was probably asking what other movies has he made that comment?
@@molder2233
Oh alright. My apologies then
I love how purely depressed Cliff looks in every single scene but as soon as he opens his mouth or takes charge of the moment he's this chipper, sarcastic goofball with some actual worldliness and capability to back up his tough-guy attitude.
Its nice to see a down-in-the-dumps man making an effort to put some spark into his life especially after losing his beloved wife in a tragic boating "accident"
Not just that but the short fight was actually going somewhere. It seems both were quite enjoying it. A fight both sides enjoy is rare, wouldve been great to let them finish it.
God dammit, we need more people like you.
Let me start by saying that this is an excellent movie, Cliff is an incredibly nuanced and deep character and Brad Pitt did a great job.
But let me also say this: Cliff is a depressed socoipath loser that spends every part of his day waiting for an excuse to be violent. The fact that so many people think he is someone worth emulating or looking up in the comment sections of these videos and review of these movies is genuinely sad to see.
It is the same thing with all the Frank Castle (Punisher) and Tyler Durden (Fight Club) worshippers. These are characters that were created as a form of criticism and the fact that so many people miss the message behind them only to end up "admiring" them for all the wrong reasons is a terrible reflection of the state of our society.
A bunch of insecure men who think that "being badass" and excessive violence are a replacement for a real personality and like to pretend they could or should be just like those guys on the screen. It is sad.
Volience created this world and keeps people in check.
And you sound like hypocrite
"What the fuck did you do to my car?"
"What the fuck did you do to her car?"
"I threw this little prick into it"
yup thats what he says
😂😂😂 so fucking funny
It would've been way funnier if the guy playing Bruce Lee also went along with it and says "Yeah what did you do?"
Quentin Tarantino finally realized his dream of making his own version of the,
“How am I funny? Do I amuse you?”
scene from _Goodfellas._
I accidentally read it as Godzilla
@Kenneth Liu
Thanks a lot! Now all I can see is Godzilla in a suit sitting next to a nervously sweating Mothra at night club table while an annoying Ghidorah keeps bringing up a $3,000 bar tab….
Did he really want to do a scene like that?
Tarantino is a hack producer.
@@sphinxrising1129but one of the greatest directors
Just one comical line after another. And Janet’s reaction was the cherry on top.
? No one said anything funny. The scene was played serious. What was funny?
@@celebrim1 Dude the entire fucking scene is meant to be comical. The banter between the both of them, the comical fight, and the reactions of the production crew
Cliff's transparent honesty when Janet starts losing it is awesome. No excuses. Just an honest recap of the car-denting shenanigans....
@@celebrim1 you know, how the scene was played…
Best scene in the movie
I love that the Zoe playing Janet is one of the most badass Stunties in the industry yelling at Cliff.
This feels like a fanfiction lol, tarantino introduces his OC and immediately has him kick a well known real life fighters ass with ease.
the realest comment here
I always had a problem with it, since Lee could could make any black belt run away in fear for their lives. That's documented on camera during his matches. But this ultimately won me over. It was fun seeing Bruce, even in cartoon form, and they don't even make roles like this for actors like Pitt anymore. Only actresses.
@@wanderingsage-x4z Bruce doesn't have any documented fights, certainly not on camera. Your inner casual is showing. Lee couldn't fight. The one time he tried to prove that he could, he literally fled out of the ring against Hong Jack Man. Out of seven witnesses, only Bruce and his wife claimed otherwise. And so to settle the debate, Hong Jack Man offered a public rematch, which Bruce rejected. That already proves he was a bullshido artist. So by all means his only "documented" fight had him humiliated.
Seeing people call him the grandfather of MMA is ridiculous. The Gracies were mixing martial arts before Bruce, and they probably got the idea from the Greeks who literally had their own form of MMA which consisted of wrestling and boxing both. Bruce is the world's greatest con artist ever. A 130lbs actor who lost the one amateur bout he ever fought in disgraceful fashion who somehow has the world to this day convinced he was the greatest fighter that ever lived.
Tarantino portrayed him perfectly. A little man with a big mouth.
It's what Tarantino does, he inserts his own bullshit fantasy into real history and then claims "it was an artistic vision"! Everything this guy made after Pulp Fiction is complete trash, people suck it up because of the hype, they can't think for themselves! By the way, this worthless human being called Tarantino publicly defends his pedophille buddy Polansky from the time he raped a 15 years old girl, wich leads me to believe he may be a pedo himself, would not be surprising considering Hollywood is fertile ground for sexual predators!
That is literally what is happening. Tarantino basically has Al Pacino explain it to Leo during the restaurant scene at the beginning--the only reason Leo's getting TV work doing bad guys is because the network wants to introduce new guys, have them kick Leo's ass, and show how tough they are to the viewers. Tarantino is doing the exact same thing here with Bruce Lee and Pitt.
Janet's my favorite scene. Especially her physical acting.
She's fuckin intolerable.
"Don't fucking Janet me, you prick!"
Brad Pitt said originally he was supposed to win the 3rd round and he refused. On the grounds he didn’t want to insult Bruce Lee’s image.
He prob coulda whooped him irl too though. The mainstream public didn't know as much about weight classes and even basic physics back in Bruce Lee's day as they do now lmao.
@@JD_tcbExactly, it's a cult and they don't know shit about the weight class.
Can’t see Quentin allowing this, he’s renowned for filming his movie the way he wants it. No way he got talked out of his vision by Brad
@@stevenlindsay23 It was an interview with Pit. Tarantino wasn’t there so who knows if this was crucial to him or if Pit was kind of joking. Good movie though.
@@JD_tcbbut people also forget about skills, physical condition and experience. I am pretty sure that TJ Dillashaw who is the same weight division as BL would KO Brad. Mighty Mouse DJ won in BJJ match against 6.3 guy. The weightclass of course improtant but only if there are not bug difference in experience and skills. I am 170 cm and have 8 years martial arts (3 years karate 1 year judo and 4 years of MMA) experience and had to beat up my classmates who was trained and pretty sporty and bigger than me but didn't have any martial arts experience.
3:25 "Killed his wife and got away with it" - it was one of the biggest laughs ever in the theater I saw it in.
I don't think it was a comedy line. ...Was everyone in your theater higher than the right side of a piano?
@Vote_By_Mail its funny its literally Bruce Lee fighting a smug guy that has every reason to get his ass kicked 😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂
3:45 is even funnier...
@@JD_tcb it’s in the delivery and absurdity of the situation.
Cliff’s little noise as response to Bruce’s ridiculous sounds is gold.
Bruce didn't make those sounds IRL, only in the movies for effect.
@@samturner6061 I totally care so much about this information.
@@buckleygenerationYou're the same guy who would ask for directions and go ahead anyway
@@samturner6061And in many cases, it was dubbed in movies!
@@falconeshieldyou’re the type of guy who gets butt hurt, and makes a shitty analogy
The fact he’s drinking milk is so funny to me
There's a whole list of really bad characters in movies drinking milk before killing people. Tarantino is foreshadowing what will follow by having him drink milk. I would go as far as to suggest that him drinking milk may be a way for the script writer to imply that Cliff is actually evil and did murder his wife. Clockwork orange, inglorious bastards, leon, no country for old men, there will be blood, get out etc. Some suggest it all started with the rumors that Hitler always drank milk before going to sleep.
@@MegasSalavatis I doubt the Hitler thing because if anything it probably has its roots in American cinema somewhere and not overseas.
Of course Brad is eating or drinking something
Milk is a symbol of innocence, purity, childhood, etc. The fact that Brad Pitt is consuming it in this scene IS funny. He’s a stuntman. Usually you think a stunt man should be a bad ass. Then you have Bruce, that is supposed to be a bad ass, boasting, which is very childish. Brad is cool, calm, collected and drinking a little carton of milk because he knows he could beat his little, childish ass (and proceeds to do so)
So do 90 percent of 70 year olds
This scene is so extraordinary because for 4 minutes straight it is just one shot. Until Bruce Lee gets thrown into the car that was one take! Think of all the dialogue that make up 4 minutes. Tarantino knows what he's doing when it comes to Actors, that's for sure.
Nah... Every time the camera quickly turns, there's a stitch
@@MrMashyker It might seem that way but you can the camera noise as it turns so it's definitely not a jump cut.
@@f-mt5784 no, they are definitely hiding cuts with the whip pans.
It's really well done scene for sure, but there are multiple cuts hidden in there.
@@f-mt5784 It's literally a whip pan cut -- it's a very common technique, bud.
I love the sound in this. The squish of the leather glove, the bong when Cliff sets his milk carton down on the diamond plate, Lee popping his hip into place.
QT is a film genius man. One of the greatest of all time.
@@Ki30you know there's more than just one guy working on the movie right? That was the work of sound designers/mixers/editors
Correct. But the director asks for these kind of details
Don't forget the crushed car
Yep, love that attention to detail
He probably never said any of this. but it sounds good especially for Hollyweird.
"that's a great idea Kato" best line in this scene
Bruce Lee's character was Kato, really cool reference.....
Small thing, but for some reason I love the way Cliff isn’t doing this just to showboat. When he laughs at Bruce’s boast about crippling Muhammad Ali, he doesn’t do it loudly or in his face, he kinda just laughs to himself and appears genuinely amused. Then uses the opportunity to stand up once he’s confronted.
I don’t know. I just love Cliff’s character and Pitt’s performance, every nuance of it. Such an awesome character.
He's tough man rather than a "Tough Guy".
He plays a genuine understated tough guy to a tea.. nailed it
That’s because Cliff was a killing machine in WW2 and from the GI Generation that generation was stoic and tough lived through hardship.Bruce was from a different generation.
Yeah, Cliff’s character is the kind of guy that’s a silent killer. Not a show boat or a load mouth, but dangerous as hell!
@@primate4 - Bingo
“…was beating the shit out of Bruce.” 😂😂 that was humiliating…
And complete BS
@@jamesbrice6619 fr they made Bruce look like he ain't the mf who invented MMA 🤣 they misrepresented him
@@jamesbrice6619 yeah 5 ft tall 150lb men never lose fights...
@Sloopy Doopy and you're arrogance and ignorance is disgusting. Piglet
@@sloopydoopy7318 Bruce Lee is so legendary it turns people into complete morons. There's a reason combat sports have weight classes. Skill doesn't matter when a guy is a foot taller than you and a 100 lbs heavier.
I’m Asian and grew up with Bruce Lee movies. I absolutely loved this portrayal of Bruce as a cocky, preachy superstar that’s too big for his own head.
I read stories that during Bruce era there were asian actors with much more potential, but Bruce simply knew how to market himself and made him convincing enough.
The thing to keep in mind is that, at this point in his career, Hollywood considers Bruce a jumped-up stuntman who got lucky with a role in a TV series. The scene takes place years before 'Dragon' hit big internationally.
As a reader of Lee its wack and cringe. Is BJJ great, yeah. Does Jon Jones use the Lee DLC eye jab, savate inside knee kick?
Yup. As a reader of Lee, of course the wacky Zen absurdity is amusing, and Saint Lee is just as ridiculous as Lee That Does Not Street Fight.
Street fights were common til the end of the 90s. Not like bragging, but yes 50s Hong Kong was probably differernt to these Broccoli MmA ExpeRt record demanders.
Im reality, Lee was so rough during filming the other actors talked stuff about him. He lost it and challenged them to a real fight but the Western actors were escorted to safety.
He had a Hong Kong film mentality and was a bruiser who did not pull punches, til they talked it over.
Tarantino is a great Western comdian, Lee is a legenadary immortal in several fields, outdoing Quent before birth in film.
@@JWlloski-d8r bruce never actually fought competitively.....never took on REAL fighters. i'd go easy on that "was a bruiser that did not pull punches" nonsense.
Tears were rolling down my face when janet was talking at any point in this scene 😂 she seemed so genuinely furious 💜💜
She is a stunt woman also funny because she killed Kurt Russel her husband in this movie she killed in death proof
wait she killed her husband in the movie? when did this happen? I don't remember it at all @@jacoblape
@@Icecube88 Kurt Russell plays her character’s husband in OUATIH. Kurt plays a stunt driver killed by Zoë Bell’s character in Death Proof.
@@Icecube88 death proof is good, one of Tarantinos unknown films. She was also in the hateful 8 and was uma thermans double in kill bill
Oh ya? Actually crying? 😒🥴
I really don’t blame Bruce’s family for being upset at this portrayal.
Accurate portrayal
@@jdb3160 not at all he never claimed anything like being able to make Ali a cripple his ego wasnt that huge
@@SSJ4Bardock i meant his personality. Not the quote. He was an arrogant little man. Of course I’m going to get hell from his ball riders but idgaf.
@@jdb3160 🤡🤡
Bruce Lee was nothing like he's portrayed here.
@@jdb3160 I mean, it's easy, if you think he is arrogant, let us see the clip of him shit talking.
Kurt Russells reaction when his wife said wife killing buddy took me out as an Aussie it's funny asf ☠️⚰️😆
She's a kiwi
@@chalkandcheese1868 I know but if you lived in Australia you get to know heaps of new Zealanders
Love the stunt people Easter eggs in this scene. The scene is about Cliff (a stunt man). Kurt Russell played Stunt man Mike in another QT movie (death proof) and Zoe Bell has been a stunt person for QT for years
I think he was a stuntman in Art of the Steal too
love zoe bell...fell for her after seeing the movie "raze"...she is badass...glad QT gave her an upfront shot
None of that made sense.
yo i had to look up Zoe Bell to check what her gender identity is, since you used stunt person instead of stuntwoman. i thought she was into those pronouns thing
Isn’t Zoe the same actress from death proof also that was doing the stunt on the dodge challenger
This is a fun scene. It’s combining an entertaining charicature (spelling?) of Bruce Lee with a serious bit and then back to comedy as they both get in trouble and try covering their asses but also see they’re trying to protect each other as they’ve developed a deal of mutual respect through fighting. It’s silly but it’s fun.
On a side note, the real Bruce Lee had a huge amount of respect for professional boxers and Muhammad Ali specifically. Once, when asked if he was ever going to try beating Ali in a fight, Bruce responded something to the effect of “No way, he’d kill me! Look at his hands! I’ve got little Asian hands!”
“Racism” aside, Bruce is using self deprecating humor to point out the realities of why weight classes exist in most competitive fighting sports. Technique is certainly important but it can only get you so far. There’s a reason that Bruce Lee did a LOT of weight training in addition to his martial arts and when you have someone as technically skilled as Muhammad Ali who’s ALSO very large and strong, there’s no easy way to overcome that with martial arts techniques alone
Bruce lee was simply a fake fighter who some how fooled anyone without ever showcasing anything other than his ability to fight in scripted scenes 😂
Bruce knew how to play the character down to a tea, funny how the movie here is also basically pointing that out but in a joking matter but if you know than you know basically 😂
@@avalac7412well he definitely was not a fake fighter. But he definitely did realize the better way of showcasing his abilities to make money and movies instead of fighting to his death
it wasn’t racist at all lol
@@nozrep yes you’re correct. I should have put quotes around that word. I’ll go correct that now
@@avalac7412I won’t go so far as to call Lee a fake, but I will say that anyone who excels at the highest level in sports like boxing, mma, muy thai, etc, is as real as it gets.
Ali DID do the thing of going around telling everyone he was the best, but then he’d have to climb in a ring multiple times a year and publicly back that shit up, no excuses, no rumors about what happened.
"I just wanna say nobody was beating the shit out of Bruce. He barely touched me."I think that dent in the car says something different." 😂😂😂
Technically he barely touched him. When he stopped touching him and threw him, thats when the damage was done...
Bruce was actually trying to protect Cliff at that point from her and be a stand up guy.
“Barley touched me….”
And then Cliff ruins it, most likely thinking Bruce is trying to one up him, and brings attention to the dented car.
@@GasparGa🙄🙄
That got to be one the funniest scene I’ve ever seen in a Tarantino movie.
My favorite part of this whole scene is when they cut back to Cliff fixing the antenna on Rick’s roof and he says to himself “Fair enough.”
That smal , tiny " wuaaha" from Brad Pitt was just hilarious!
@@NikoNeznanovich if bruce lee fought at real Brad Pitt would be murdered him even with tight hands. Pitt hasnt idea about martial arts. The one was master eho becamed an actor and the other just an actor who hadnt idea... Stefanou out
@@serafeimstefanou5877 I don't think anyone here is saying that the actor Brad Pitt could beat the martial artist Bruce Lee. But in the movie, his character could. It's not supposed to be realistic anyway
It was hilarious. And you could tell from the way the scene was cut that the people on the scene were cracking up as well.
bruce never use that funny waatta noise in his real fights...that was just for the movies
@@serafeimstefanou5877 Size and weight class plays huge in this. No, little Asian dudes are not going to 'kill' him. It's comical when they think they can. It's often manifested from a cultural inferiority complex.
"I threw this little prick into it". I love the casual delivery of that line.. hilarious
The manslaughter line killed it for me in the cinema. The fight was gravy, but Lee was 100% punked and no coming back.
right!? lol
Lmaooo! I loved this scene. I hope Tarantino brings Moh back for more roles in a future Tarantino film.
it was a draw tho
@@GeekProdigyGuy Cliff let Lee knock him down in the first one, then completely man handled him in the second.
Really weird scene. Why was it necessary to have some emasculating tough guy crap just to shit on the legacy of a guy who, by all accounts was pretty humble? Feels weirdly racial, too.
Bruce’s reaction to Janet saying Cliff was beating the shit out of him is so funny to me.
Friking hilarious 😂😂😂
2:00 Bruce Lee: How I'm funny...like a clown ?!!
I amuse you?
I'm here to fvkng amuse you?
I'm here to fvkng amuse you?
I like how he says anybody would get manslaughter for killing someone when he got away with killing his wife lol
He said accidently, he killed his wife on purpose
Incorrect.
He murdered his wife. Quite different from manslaughter.
We don’t actually know if he did or not
He did murder. They were talking about manslaughter.
The best part of this scene is the fact that Randy seems almost afraid of cliff. While his wife is telling cliff to "get fu**ed" Randy is a bit more reserved by repeating most of what she said but just telling him to "get off the lot".
Great screenwriting.
men are more polite than ladies even in position of power, because men knows that being (don´t know the word in english) umpolite always could end in a fight.
Watch the movie before you comment dumbass. Randy was his friend.
I think he was just being nice to his friend.
Pretty sure he was just being chill, not scared
I feel it's more like Janet had absolutely no respect for Cliff and hates him, since she believes he murdered his wife and got away with it, she's also really angry at Cliff over him messing up her car. Randy has a little bit of respect for Cliff, because he respects Rick, and Rick vouched for Cliff in the trailer before this scene. Randy was also friendly towards Cliff when they met outside Rick's trailer, implying they have some history together.
I swear the bit at 4:05 kills me every time. It's such a good edit.
I love how Bruce kind of loses his swagger when he learns that Cliff killed his wife, yet literally snaps back into it.
Agree. Missed it the first time. Ty
I don't see it like that at all. I just think he was genuinely surprised.
Film is trash
of course, he then kind of lost his swagger AGAIN when he got shitcanned into that car.
@@IronheartvsMiles let me guess, you are a Bruce lee fan and the only thing that you have seen abt this movie is this scene
I love how Quintin always overdos stuff to a cartoonist level. The car Lee is thrown in to by Cliff looks like it was hit with a Harley! Always fun to watch his stuff
Tarantino's whole career has been making live action Road Runner cartoons. Total hack.
@@OroborusFMAbut not every director could take so much stuff and make it seem their own. Tarantino is an artist indeed, don't care about elitists telling me I'm basic for dick riding this guy
@@OroborusFMA I still enjoy his films. Mostly because I just enjoy the dialog.
It was like watching two super humans or gods fight😂😂😂
@@OroborusFMAwhat are you on about 🤡? Hes a total hack huh? Seems to be doing swimmingly. Go sit down
Man,they really disrespected bruce in this movie.
Fuk Hollywood
Gotta be realistic the guy was a joke
@@manchagojohnsonmanchago6367 rage bait 🪤
@@boogynights hahaha take the bait!
@@manchagojohnsonmanchago6367 no just walk by past it. Good luck ahahah
It's just an excuse so you dancers don't get into a real fight , brilliant 😅😅😅
There a bunch a friends and then when Bruce gets up there’s no friends lol
The little guy with the giant vest moves from the back corner of the car and when Bruce damages the car he walks all the way over to the phone. Everyone runs because they know he's a snitch and the boss is coming. You can see him on the phone when Janet comes in.
Bro became a fake bruce lee the moment he removed those shades😂
Stupid scene. Tarantino is clearly a Bruce Lee hater. Racist? There’s not enough conclusive evidence. Regardless, Cliff beating up Bruce isn’t surprising: he is the bigger man. Believe it or not, folks: size matters. Plus, the contest Bruce agrees with him favours Cliff.
0:01 That Jawline. LMAO... oh man funniest bit in the movie. Love Tarntino's works.
So sharp he has to declare it when boarding a plane
@@RickReasonnzlol
When Bruce realigns his Pelvis after hitting the car 😂
Bruce Lee isn't like that
"Janet, I will handle it" Then goes on to repeat the same thing she said🤣🤣🤣🤣 That writer deserves and award
If anybody tells you to do the exact same move that put them on the ground, you should absolutely NOT do that same move. 🤣
TBH, I didn't like this movie. In fact, it was so bad I didn't make it to the end. Even this scene is pretty awful and quite pointless, unless the objective was to humiliate Bruce Lee.
You should’ve watched it to the end. The last 15-20 minutes make the whole thing worth it
@superjackster0165 agree. I almost didn't make it to the end either, but the whole entire movie is sitting up the end.
Only thing thats bugs me is before being tossed into door there is like 10 people around, after theres 1.
That's because while Bruce was picking himself up, they all saw Janet coming and took off. Except for Dave... Dave's kinda dumb.
@@0megacron oh yeah actually you see the reflection in the car of them all running away
The guy in the vest is the key notice where he ends up.
I don't think they saw her coming, they knew it was her car..
Car doors don’t crumple like that from a person getting tossed into them.
Even though this scene is somewhat controversial. I think this hilarious & entertaining 😂
The controversy was stirred up by Bruce Lee fans who don't understand Tarantino's sense of humor. The main point of the scene is to establish for the audience that Cliff has got serious chops, which it accomplishes using a bit of historical fantasy, thereby also foreshadowing the similarly reimagined history at the end of the film.
@@davidjorgensen877So you don’t think Quentin just assumed this is how Bruce Lee acted? I’m genuinely asking as I haven’t seen the movie.
@@VanLupen The controversy I read about concerned the fact that Quentin had the "audacity" to create an incident that never took place wherein Bruce was depicted as a pompous braggart and a fictional stuntman was able to "take him down a notch". It was deemed "disrespectful" to the memory of Bruce by many of his legions of fans (including some of his family). I think Quentin didn't care one way or the other about how Bruce actually behaved, he wrote the scene to create a fictional alternative to the legend of Bruce to serve the purposes of his movie. To QT, in this film, "Bruce Lee" is merely an archetype to serve as fodder for his imagination and create interesting cinema. I have no idea how he thought Bruce actually behaved, but I'm sure he knew exactly what he was doing when he wrote this scene. Quentin not only does not respect historical accuracy in his films, he purposely spits on and reinvents it, just for fun. But it only works for an audience that's on board with the game. For those who aren't, they take it at face value, and get all confused and bent out of shape.
@@davidjorgensen877 reason why this was shown is ,that Bruce Was always taging stunt men and really hurting them showing very little respect for them ,
@@davidjorgensen877”spits on them” calm down buddy. Qt does not give a shit of what you deemed disrespectful. He doesn’t get bogged down by these “historical facts” he just focuses on making a good movie
Funny scene but disrespectful to Bruce, as he wasn’t a loud mouth show off.
And Brad, you know he'd kick the crap outta you, you wouldn't touch him.
" I threw this little prick into it " 😂
I like how he made fun of dance fighting and then they proceed to have a straight up silly dance fight lol
The person playing Bruce Lee doesn’t get enough credit in my opinion, he absolutely NAILS his mannerisms and voice.
I like the scene, but I don't like how they made Bruce to be a douchebag; he wasn't like that in real life and this isn't how he looked when he was doing "The Green Hornet."
Mike Moh played Bruce he also Play Ryu and a damn good one in Street Fighter The Assasins Fist th-cam.com/video/OgXLxi23jaw/w-d-xo.html&pp=ygUec3RyZWV0IGZpZ2h0ZXIgYXNzYXNzaW4ncyBmaXN0
@@dakotastarchild4424 So you knew him personally?
@@rpnp2 Everyone who knew him said he was a sweet guy.
@@dakotastarchild4424 It was an alternate reality
Probably the best part of the whole movie other than any scene that had Robbie simply sitting there breathing and looking gorgeous 😀
I think this whole movie is awesome from start to finish.
I think the final bashing is more epic. I was having an orgasm to those head smashing and burnings
I didn't even know Margot Robbie was in this film.... that's how much it WASN'T advertised in Australia....!