So basically Light: Rejection of the void, the power and the horror that it brought. Neutral: The acceptance of the void being a medium to an end, a tool, and the desire to have some semblance of control in all the chaos Dark: Embrace the void, the power, the horrors, the chaos and see the void as both the means and the end
@@darkrisk6656 In my case, Moon's only choice was to allow Teshin to assassinate the Old Queen. In the rest I only chose the Sun and Neutral ones. Although I think I chose more neutrals than Sun
That's because it wasn't generated by algorithm and quickly and carelessly placed in, look at the "dynamic" speeches by any character you get in mission like the lotus or saladV and you'll see that it's much worse
I avoided the bloodshed, Controlled the void in my heart, allowed Teshin the kill he waited patiently for.. And then I chugged some evil cranberry juice. Proooobably shouldn't have chugged that juice. Good thing uncle Teshin was all "Woah hey that's too much sugar chill out"
@@pendraco2000 It's because she used counterfeit Grineer bodies, which are made of biological equivalent of plasticine and break down the instant warranty ends. Our bodies are under Wally's life-long warranty and are reinforced with the Void, so, we should be fine.
Sun, neutral, moon and neutral again for me, finnally having a neutrally outcome... Nearly let the queen live, but couldn't tell Teshin no, he was forced to serve Elder queen void knows how long, so least i could do to show gratitude was to let him kill her... Was cool af tho...
That ... was precisely what i did, hell even with same reasoning :D While He was like "a chance to kill you ...and now I finally have it." i was like "Well ... go on then, knock yourself out ;)"
Sour Venom kinda think that option should have been neutral, since imo it's just you being neutral, while you killing her is actually "dark side"... but well, after everything he had done for us before i just couldn't say no then he asked "may I"... I was like, "go ahead, help yourself :) "
I have not seen any bugs, glitches or anything that was not supposed to be in the quest and the operator on a zipline one was that operator had no specific animation for when on a zipline, so they would literally walk on it.
Nope. Because it'd go wrong. Game movies should never exist in my opinion. Just two completely seperate mediums that never go well when they mix, like oil and water.
so basically its just the illusion of choice, whatever you chose didnt matter much (or not yet matter) but overall it blows my mind that a f2p pve game like warframe has quite a good story, really took me by suprise
The game is supported by the community. It's what allows this gem to shine. That and the wonderful people at DE. I have never seen much f2p that doesn't hide it's gameplay under a paywall.
The point for now is to characterize your operator from being emotional or pragmatic or a mix of both rather than good or evil. It's just character building at this point.
Lawful most of the moon choices up to the whole teshin fatality felt like it had a segway where in the next quest the choices could make a difference i.e rejecting who/whatever taken over the tenno or what your operator mind set was like during the orokin massacre but having teshin kill one of the queens i don't see how that fits into being evil maybe in the greater scheme of things you essentially take the place of the orokin/grineer queen controlling the dax and all that jazz until DE shed more light probably not till next year we are only left to speculate I'm hoping it's umbra time (wishes upon a star)
theinfamoushunter the outcome is the same either way you put it there is no difference if you kill her or teshin does tho i think leaving someone/thing who is decaying to rot is by far more sinister than say (taking alil bit off the top) granting teshin his wish seems more like mercy kill that or nice slice of universal karma lol
The Dark choice makes you out to be more ruthless, and prefer to not forgive your enemy, more that you believe death is the proper answer for most of the issues you faced, But yes I agree most of the dark choices were logically the most valid options. (Mostly Dark course playthrough)
+Sonicnutta91 It's because you act like the queens. By holding the Kuva and ordering Teshin to kill, you turn the Dax into your servant(s) and become like the queens.
I really can't wait until the next cinematic quest!! I really want to know what the ending is supposed to mean/symbolize. It seems like the Tenno are controlled by something.
He said Tenno, which is the operator. Tenno operate warframes, he's suggesting the operator is being operated. Your sarcasm is misplaced. My personal opinion is that the void is alive. "You'd be nothing without me" = you'd be nothing without your powers from the void.
Thanks but someone else explained that one, it's my favorite theory though. It actually gave me chills because in one flashback the dad says "There's something out there kiddo." Then a voice (not the dads) says "What took you so long kiddo". It reminded me of how the predators in the predator franchise would mimic human voices to lure victims. The thing probably heard the dad call you kiddo. I figure it's like the dark side of the force like in Star Wars only more personified.
The choices will be the part of next mechanic they add, i believe. And i think it's a great choice to decide player's standing before they reveal what are benefits of a new system. It will determine what players are, rather than strieve for what player desire. Because if new system will give "better" benefits for a dark side, then majority of players will go for it, ignoring the whole idea of tenno being against Orokin (because kuva esentially the main source of orokin corrupted system and literally worse than hitler). But that aside, great video.
as a austrian living next to germany and the birthplace of Hitler im sooooo SICK of this Hitler BS PLZ consider MAO / STALIN / as a choice not only Hitler have the 101% evil stat .....
Everyone thinks it's Hunhow, but I'm the only one who believes it's Ballas. Ballas has created the Warframes, and as a user of them, the voice notifies the Operator as Kiddo. Another reason why I believe this is because Hunhow has a different voice compared to the Second Dream. Rumor also has it that the next mission will be introducing the Umbra Warframes, Warframes that are like the Stalker, separated from the Link. Therefore, if the voice was the father of the Warframes, then this would be an amazing allude to the Umbra. EDIT: I KNOW ITS THE MAN IN THE WALL. THIS WAS A COMMENT PRIOR TO CHAINS OF HARROW.
Vriska Serket Now that I watched this again with a different voice, the voice is just changed from the voice the player chooses for their Operator. Therefore, both theories work
cool dude I meant the next major mission. It started with Second Dream, than a year after, hype for TWW came. Umbra will be the next Lore related story; DE has confirmed this
I dont think its Ballas, in the prime trailers he seems to calm and controlled to be referring to someone as kiddo. I think its Void related, knowing the Void having mindfuckery powers. Or Orokin, who knows
Killed the Queen, drank the Koolaid. Ended up with a neutral, slightly skewed towards the light, which is around how I'll try and keep it, though I'd prefer it be true neutral. Rejecting the evil of the void and instead using it as an instrument to right the universe's wrongs, to me, that is what it means to be Tenno. Imo, if you indulge and go dark, you become like Wallie, an uncomprehendable universal threat. And if you go full light you become the Orokin, rejecting the void akin to a purist. A true tenno would accept their nature and channel it into helping those they can, like Kahl, Clem, Teshin, Umbra, The Necralisk, Fortuna, Loid and Earth. Only with true balance, can one find salvation, and bring others toward salvation themselves.
Thanks a lot for this, i was looking for someone who did all 3 choices at the end to see what happens. Thank you for making this video, it is greatly appreciated.
I did all dark choices. I am very curious to how this well end up effecting our game. Also I think even though I didnt chose this one the Neutral option for the last one where you decide to dump, control, or drink it has the best line. "Don't forget kiddo you're nothing, without me."
On the last choice I picked to consume instantly, I was hoping that I could get some kuva for my octavia, I didn't get it though but I did not expect the "kiddo" thing to happen
Here's a frun question; if all three dialogue choices (Sun, Moon and Neutral) were each their own independent Tenno, what would they be like? What would their fighting style be, or how they deal with problems?
That voice at the end with the kuva has me more concerned after playing the new quest, chains of harrow. Seems WarFrames heading more into horror. Starting to feel uncomfortable about all that whispering in Limbo's rift.
Thinking about it how the man in the wall will play out 3 options to reject him, another to work with him and the last one the tricky one but I think it's gonna be to accept him as a part of you. The nature of the man in the wall still unknown but he could be more or less the collective conciseness of the void so the options are in another sense reject the void, work with void, or accept the void. Don't forget the void pretty much the only reason tenno exist and the control path helps reinforce this since with out the void the tenno would no longer be the tenno.
i wish we kept the scepter on the operator so it could be something like a wizard's staff that gave the operator another set of abilities instead of the default ones.
I just let her rot, she was already dead, i didnt want tenshin and i to make bloodshed something to be proud of. I also drank the kuva, more power means more people that can be saved in my opinion
The 'Dark' doesn't mean so evil, it could mean you are so close to death that your vision is blacking out and losing itself to the darkness or the other way, the 'light' are just somehow filled with 'fire' on the surface. while the night has calm environment. I choose the night for the sake of what Tenno should be keeping for the calm and peace.
Dark Year at a guess it probably tastes like crappie, did you see the tennos face lol. but it could be anything, up too you, coolaid, blood, maybe even dingle berries, the possibility is endless.
At first, kuva tastes like cinnamon but it's never twice the same. It's like life - it presents a different face each time you take it. Some hold that the kuva produces a learned-flavour reaction. The body, learning a thing is good for it, interprets the flavour as pleasurable; slightly euphoric. And, like life, never to be truly synthesized.
the next quest will be the Perrin Sequence infestation frame quest. Although the choices here *may* affect the next Tennoquest, possibly something related to the "Hey Kiddo" entity.
One can speculate it may be a parent that is hiding in the void (due to the Tennos being destroyed), but knowing that Tennos are extinct (or possibly), that idea would be a fallacy.
5:03 My reason: No matter how "pure" we might believe we are, we're not immune to temptation. There's always gonna be times where we'll want something, and don't care if there are any potential repercussions, down the road. Or: there's also the risk that instead of (overall) growing stronger, it would do nothing but change us. Both for the better, and for the worse. ...But mainly for the worse.
As for a Warframe player I chose sun and neutral never moon but mine is like showing sideways sun and one choice could make it mix, I let the queen rot, I controlled the kuva
Just recently started play Warframe actively (mr7 yet unlocked new war) After completion of War within (moon, neutral, moon, moon) and Sacrifice after it I felt that feeling of catharsis I have not felt for a long time in gaming experience
What I'd really like to know is whether or not Teshin was able to see what was actually happening during that last choice, and if he did, then that raises another more important question; was the voice talking to the Operator, or was it really talking to Teshin?
I know I’m late to the party but I’m pretty sure the voice is the void it self and drinking the kuva gives it more power making it slowly becoming it’s own person
The voice is the man in the wall when he says you owe me or you are nothing without refers to a deal he made with the operator, not gonna spoil more just in case you haven't seen the latest quests
Kinda conflicted myself about how some of the choices are supposedly good or bad, I mean letting the Grineer Queen rot, how is that supposedly a moral good choice? condemning somebody to a long life of slowly rotting and dying is "good" opposed to granting them a swift painless death?! My own choices actually ended up with leaning stronger to the darker side. 1 "They had lost their minds" In a situation like that, its better to keep yourself safe, but not go on a killing spree ether as those people might be saved as well. 2 "I embraced it" come on, you are a kid that gets strange space magic. Sure you would be afraid at first, but what kid does not want superpowers? 3 "Kill her" Teshin himself just said he has been waiting all this time to kill her, who am I to deny him his revenge? aside of that I literally already killed myself past thousands upon thousands of Grineer, Corpus, infested and other beings. Why would this queen be any more special to deserve the privilege to go on living? Just because she has the status of Queen and is not a regular grunt we are told to cut down without any mercy? 4 "Control" Only those steeped in fear due to ignorance destroy what they don't understand, and only fools try to drink something when they don't even know what it is. The most logical choice is to keep it, examine it and learn what it is, what it does, and then decide whatever you should do with it.
careful with that "embrace" choice, just as with Kuva vial at the end you really cant be afraid of your own power yet to blindly relish in it is just as dangerous and pretty slippery slope to be on ... control is the real Tenno choice - always - you have way too much power in your hands to be afraid of it or to use it recklessly, so you train to master it, to control it, to bend it to YOUR will, to become one with it without losing yourself in it ...
I gave it to him. Dude's a slave to it, whatever it is. Best he be in control of his own destiny. That, and I ain't gon' drink Wally's corrupted Orokin lifestream juice. It's clear from his responses that that's what he wants, & he seems like a bad hombre, what with all the stuff Rell discerned, and the fact that he made our parents try to kill us and what not. Pouring it out seems like a waste, & hell, we might need it later to inoculate or turn the power back on Wally or summin, who knows. We turned down untold power, both of the Orokin & the Void. I trust uncle because he gave us the choice, & who's he gonna respect more than a monarch who gave him his freedom as soon as we'd gained it? He knows more about the Orokin & the Old War than we do, that's for sure - and he's no longer their slave.
DE confirmed that the choice you make will have consequences on the next quest that's coming, and it will have something to do with a new power system just like you had to make a choice with focus. And like with focus, your choice will not be set in stone, you will be able to change it if you don't like the outcome.
KamikazeeGecko The description for madurai is misleading. I only picked it because I thought I was going to have a beam of 10000 damage. I still haven't got to 2000 once. zenurik, vazarin, and Naramon are the only good focus skills
I decided to go full evil, wanna see what it feels like to have the hatred and pure power of the void will the tenno mind and their warframes, and I hate that Lotus is still lying and keeping secrets away, so maybe if I go full rouge, I´ll find out more
+Annoying Killah The way I see it, it was a good opportunity to see what Teshin can do without revealing your own abilities. Also it feels like you're the one who gets to give the orders for a change.
lol I found most if not all pretty easy, the only hard part was the monster that hid in the bones, but that was more so my impatience that caused me to fail
Before doing the quest I thought for sure that I would be sun but when I actually did it the neutral choices sounded more like things I would say. And thus, here we are.
There's something telling about the possibilities of the last decision. Handing over ("controlling" HOW?) the Kuva (Playable Character?) Drinking it (Possible metamorphosis). They have a reason for not saying yet... Possibly increasing the involvement/inventory of the Factions? I LOVE this game. Maybe the most important recent game, based on how it's redefined (basically shattered) the pay to play concept. I pay for things because I want these people to have my money.
I don't know why but now I'm kind of wishing the "Kill Her" option just had the operator say "Do it" in the most emperor palpatine tone possible.
"Kill her, kill her now."
"Should I?"
*Do It.*
@@justaballwithablueeye5870 that's what I thought 😂😂 I wished My character would say that
dew it
I still dont understand how having him do it for you is more evil than you doing it yourself, like, mans been wanting this for a while let him have it
I have a male character and i chose kill her since he always wanted it and it really did
For being a free game it has great story
you normally don't see that
CMDR KindMinotaur I thought the same thing
CMDR KindMinotaur meeeeh
Uhhh... For ANY game. Blows Destiny out of the water, for instance.
Dont forget Octavia's quest
*Grineer Queen near death*
Operator: "Kill her."
Teshin: ... (Beheads the queen)
*Fatality.*
Del FINISH HER
Del I swear i said that lmao
I couldn’t let her rot. I just had to see it. At least I got neutral.
Kung Lau Wins!
Fatality
I loved it when he sliced that bitch's head off.
So basically
Light: Rejection of the void, the power and the horror that it brought.
Neutral: The acceptance of the void being a medium to an end, a tool, and the desire to have some semblance of control in all the chaos
Dark: Embrace the void, the power, the horrors, the chaos and see the void as both the means and the end
Does that affect the mission? I chose all the light stuff and it just made me redo the entire WW.
@@dark_assassinfgc8947 that’s definitely a bug
I was neutral, we can control and stop anything.
@@darkrisk6656 In my case, Moon's only choice was to allow Teshin to assassinate the Old Queen. In the rest I only chose the Sun and Neutral ones. Although I think I chose more neutrals than Sun
@@xultimatemh4113 same ish I allowed tenshin to have his revenge and went neutral
You did everyone a favor :D
: >
dude I see you everywhere on the comments section
Even facial animation in warframe is better than mass effect andromeda >_
It's great facial animation, except operator. Operator facial animations are messed because there are various face blend variations.
That's because it wasn't generated by algorithm and quickly and carelessly placed in, look at the "dynamic" speeches by any character you get in mission like the lotus or saladV and you'll see that it's much worse
Ubiquitous Prick you got Salads got name wrong! It’s Salad Vegan not Salad V!
(This is a joke)
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I avoided the bloodshed, Controlled the void in my heart, allowed Teshin the kill he waited patiently for.. And then I chugged some evil cranberry juice.
Proooobably shouldn't have chugged that juice. Good thing uncle Teshin was all "Woah hey that's too much sugar chill out"
This juice makes you biologically immortal, though. Totally worth it.
@@caav56 no it doesn't... the Grineer Queen chugged it... and look what she needed to do to you.
@@pendraco2000 It's because she used counterfeit Grineer bodies, which are made of biological equivalent of plasticine and break down the instant warranty ends. Our bodies are under Wally's life-long warranty and are reinforced with the Void, so, we should be fine.
I like the idea of Kuva just being something like sugar, because that implies that Kuva Liches are just Grineer extremely hopped up on the stuff
@@caav56 Who wants to live forever :D
"kiddo" sounds like handsome jack to me :)
dlc planet- pandora- and the boss...
muthaf#ckin steve- HEYO HEYO HEYO!!!
( his name was steve right? )
Aukion Makiro
His name was Steve. Steve the Bandit
Steve the legend
Reminds me of Qrow from RWBY
i thought that too xD
Hmm, well I was always a loyal Darkmoon Blade in the Dark Souls games, so the only option for me is the Moon path. Praise the Moon!
+The Nameless Moon \(T)/
Hail!
The Nameless Moon PRAISE THE
SUN
The Nameless Moon
PRAISE THE SSSUUUUUUUUNNNNN
you filthy casual
Hail hydra!
1. you owe me
2.your nothing without me
3. what took u so long
What could it be though?
@@eitzer1573 The man in the walls
@pgplasys 775 The Orokin, or maybe the tenno's father
sounds like power in exchange for something else
@@notsaitania4194 in exchange for sanity.
Sun, neutral, moon and neutral again for me, finnally having a neutrally outcome... Nearly let the queen live, but couldn't tell Teshin no, he was forced to serve Elder queen void knows how long, so least i could do to show gratitude was to let him kill her... Was cool af tho...
That ... was precisely what i did, hell even with same reasoning :D While He was like "a chance to kill you ...and now I finally have it." i was like "Well ... go on then, knock yourself out ;)"
Sour Venom kinda think that option should have been neutral, since imo it's just you being neutral, while you killing her is actually "dark side"... but well, after everything he had done for us before i just couldn't say no then he asked "may I"... I was like, "go ahead, help yourself :) "
დღემდე ვერ გაიგებ რა მნიშვნელობა აქვს მაგ არჩევნებს 😢...
Neutral,Sun,Moon and finally Sun
@@darthgiorgi4990 I agree. You actually going through with the kill makes much more sense for the "dark" option
Listening to this makes me realize how much better the other female voice actor is.
Yup, falcon is just more suited for a female
Keep this in mind, This person repkayed The War within 3 times for this
Thank you person for not being lazy so i can be lazy
With all that walking
That’s what it takes to have th devs give you a custom glyphs
I always let Teshin kill her. He's been putting up with her insane ways for who knows how long, it always just felt like he had earned it.
Killing her would't have bring him peace. So I let her rot.
Same
I did three neutral, one bad. Turned out perfect neutral, just like Tenno are supposed to be.
I let Teshin wreck her.
Robo Trex "Finish her"
Nothing is bad though
That's the moon side
Balance keeps us on both sides
I think it may be ying and yang
if this quest hadn't been so bug riddled at the release, then i would see this quest as one of the best to be ever released
Laci Gleen haven't seen any bugs except for the "operator on the zipline" animation glitch
Vitig 5 minutes after release or after they all where hotfixed ? what are you talking about please be more specific
I have not seen any bugs, glitches or anything that was not supposed to be in the quest
and the operator on a zipline one was that operator had no specific animation for when on a zipline, so they would literally walk on it.
Vitig when did you played ? before or after the hotfix ffs are too stupid to understand ?
Laci Gleen I played the quest without a single bug right after the update. It's definitely before any hotfixes. I think those bugs happen randomly.
Welcome to Pandora, Kiddos
Zech Evans YES
who els thinks their should be a warframe movie? with epic moments like this?
i feel like an anime would be more appropriate
MrModavs I funny you say that I commented that on another WF video
well, I guess it's an obvious thing XD
Nope. Because it'd go wrong. Game movies should never exist in my opinion. Just two completely seperate mediums that never go well when they mix, like oil and water.
I Think your Wrong And a warframe movie Would Kick ass
so basically its just the illusion of choice, whatever you chose didnt matter much (or not yet matter)
but overall it blows my mind that a f2p pve game like warframe has quite a good story, really took me by suprise
The choices are going to make difference in the future main quests
RIGHT? They've broken the pay to play system.
It still may matter later.
The game is supported by the community. It's what allows this gem to shine. That and the wonderful people at DE. I have never seen much f2p that doesn't hide it's gameplay under a paywall.
The point for now is to characterize your operator from being emotional or pragmatic or a mix of both rather than good or evil. It's just character building at this point.
I drank the cool aid
The syzurp
Cancer-kun Fuckin tasty Kool-aid
Seems no one understands what Cancer-kun meant.
Of course you did. We all did, my man. We all did.
Cancer-kun i know i did to i love me some cool aid
The dark side, seems like it had the most reasonable course of action, i don't know why its considered to be the dark choice.
Lawful most of the moon choices up to the whole teshin fatality felt like it had a segway where in the next quest the choices could make a difference i.e rejecting who/whatever taken over the tenno or what your operator mind set was like during the orokin massacre but having teshin kill one of the queens i don't see how that fits into being evil maybe in the greater scheme of things you essentially take the place of the orokin/grineer queen controlling the dax and all that jazz until DE shed more light probably not till next year we are only left to speculate I'm hoping it's umbra time (wishes upon a star)
Lawful you are more violent and less forgiving
theinfamoushunter the outcome is the same either way you put it there is no difference if you kill her or teshin does tho i think leaving someone/thing who is decaying to rot is by far more sinister than say (taking alil bit off the top) granting teshin his wish seems more like mercy kill that or nice slice of universal karma lol
The Dark choice makes you out to be more ruthless, and prefer to not forgive your enemy, more that you believe death is the proper answer for most of the issues you faced, But yes I agree most of the dark choices were logically the most valid options. (Mostly Dark course playthrough)
+Sonicnutta91 It's because you act like the queens. By holding the Kuva and ordering Teshin to kill, you turn the Dax into your servant(s) and become like the queens.
When I let Teshin kill her, I did not expect him to decapitate her. It took me by surprise
I guess you can say "The Wait Within" is finally over. *ba dum tss*
+Bigboss01 :P
boo weak :p
Get out..
is that a jojo refrence?
I really can't wait until the next cinematic quest!! I really want to know what the ending is supposed to mean/symbolize. It seems like the Tenno are controlled by something.
Eun Sik Park I know right, like there would be some sort of 'operator' in a faraway ship or something, controlling their every move...
*sarcasm intensifies*
He said Tenno, which is the operator. Tenno operate warframes, he's suggesting the operator is being operated. Your sarcasm is misplaced. My personal opinion is that the void is alive. "You'd be nothing without me" = you'd be nothing without your powers from the void.
Devin Moore alright fair enough, your theory sound good as well
Thanks but someone else explained that one, it's my favorite theory though. It actually gave me chills because in one flashback the dad says "There's something out there kiddo." Then a voice (not the dads) says "What took you so long kiddo". It reminded me of how the predators in the predator franchise would mimic human voices to lure victims. The thing probably heard the dad call you kiddo. I figure it's like the dark side of the force like in Star Wars only more personified.
The choices will be the part of next mechanic they add, i believe. And i think it's a great choice to decide player's standing before they reveal what are benefits of a new system. It will determine what players are, rather than strieve for what player desire. Because if new system will give "better" benefits for a dark side, then majority of players will go for it, ignoring the whole idea of tenno being against Orokin (because kuva esentially the main source of orokin corrupted system and literally worse than hitler).
But that aside, great video.
Meh. I just picked things that fit my nature. Whatever happens based on that is perfectly suitable.
"Your Decisions Make You," right?
as a austrian living next to germany and the birthplace of Hitler im sooooo SICK of this Hitler BS PLZ consider MAO / STALIN / as a choice not only Hitler have the 101% evil stat .....
Everyone thinks it's Hunhow, but I'm the only one who believes it's Ballas. Ballas has created the Warframes, and as a user of them, the voice notifies the Operator as Kiddo. Another reason why I believe this is because Hunhow has a different voice compared to the Second Dream. Rumor also has it that the next mission will be introducing the Umbra Warframes, Warframes that are like the Stalker, separated from the Link. Therefore, if the voice was the father of the Warframes, then this would be an amazing allude to the Umbra.
EDIT: I KNOW ITS THE MAN IN THE WALL. THIS WAS A COMMENT PRIOR TO CHAINS OF HARROW.
well, Ballas's voice is kinda different from this entity.
i believe its something related to the children's origin, rather than ballas.
Vriska Serket
Now that I watched this again with a different voice, the voice is just changed from the voice the player chooses for their Operator. Therefore, both theories work
Gse_ Panda oh how wrong that rumor was
cool dude
I meant the next major mission. It started with Second Dream, than a year after, hype for TWW came. Umbra will be the next Lore related story; DE has confirmed this
I dont think its Ballas, in the prime trailers he seems to calm and controlled to be referring to someone as kiddo. I think its Void related, knowing the Void having mindfuckery powers. Or Orokin, who knows
Suprise how a free to play game can have a better story than destiny even tho it are both different games
Killed the Queen, drank the Koolaid. Ended up with a neutral, slightly skewed towards the light, which is around how I'll try and keep it, though I'd prefer it be true neutral. Rejecting the evil of the void and instead using it as an instrument to right the universe's wrongs, to me, that is what it means to be Tenno.
Imo, if you indulge and go dark, you become like Wallie, an uncomprehendable universal threat. And if you go full light you become the Orokin, rejecting the void akin to a purist. A true tenno would accept their nature and channel it into helping those they can, like Kahl, Clem, Teshin, Umbra, The Necralisk, Fortuna, Loid and Earth.
Only with true balance, can one find salvation, and bring others toward salvation themselves.
Thanks a lot for this, i was looking for someone who did all 3 choices at the end to see what happens. Thank you for making this video, it is greatly appreciated.
That last cutscene were you drank it...
where*
your farther talking to you from the void welcoming you home creapy as fuck
zeonthefox Daddy?
You are an orphan. Remember? There are no Tenno left in the universe (well as far as we know for now, but one can only speculate)
Jonathan Beller no there are other tennos?...
I did all dark choices. I am very curious to how this well end up effecting our game. Also I think even though I didnt chose this one the Neutral option for the last one where you decide to dump, control, or drink it has the best line. "Don't forget kiddo you're nothing, without me."
On the last choice I picked to consume instantly, I was hoping that I could get some kuva for my octavia, I didn't get it though but I did not expect the "kiddo" thing to happen
Here's a frun question; if all three dialogue choices (Sun, Moon and Neutral) were each their own independent Tenno, what would they be like? What would their fighting style be, or how they deal with problems?
Honestly i think they wouldn't be too different from each other, maybe moon would be more resentful and prone to violence
I drank the elixir and now I'm very exited to see what happens next
Teshin dax's moves are super smooth. Like he's flowing/gliding through air.
That voice at the end with the kuva has me more concerned after playing the new quest, chains of harrow.
Seems WarFrames heading more into horror. Starting to feel uncomfortable about all that whispering in Limbo's rift.
LEGION3592 it's fucking awesome
Agreed, don't get me wrong, I'm loving it. Hope there's more of it over time. ^^
Rap tap tap
Limbo dio da
Thank you for this! It was cool to see all the other choices. I choose to control the kuva at the end.
SirGeealot 7 i chose to consume it
Sip the Kuv-Aid
redoing the quest wont override your 1st choice of Sun Neutral and Moon though!
Dark eyes..."you nothing without me..." yep warframe spoke to her.
Lidia Nezvalová *hunhow.
nooooooooooooo Q.Q
It also could be Ballas.
Its totally none of the above because its the man in the Wall.
Lidia Nezvalová its the void
Thanks like a regular human I chose whatever I felt my curiosity just had me questioning what happens when you choose others
Operator: kill her Teshin: beheads ASSASSINATION
Such quality. Thanks! I was wondering what will happen. But too lazy to redo the entire thing.
Do the choices you make have any affect on further progress throughout the game?
Thinking about it how the man in the wall will play out 3 options to reject him, another to work with him and the last one the tricky one but I think it's gonna be to accept him as a part of you. The nature of the man in the wall still unknown but he could be more or less the collective conciseness of the void so the options are in another sense reject the void, work with void, or accept the void. Don't forget the void pretty much the only reason tenno exist and the control path helps reinforce this since with out the void the tenno would no longer be the tenno.
i wish we kept the scepter on the operator so it could be something like a wizard's staff that gave the operator another set of abilities instead of the default ones.
omgwtfhaxfan1221003 agree
Well, you get it as a pretty solid staff weapon, so that kind of counts.
thanks for making all the effort to do this video, all the time spent on it, thank you so much bro
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I consumed it ... what is exactly the difference now ?? Only what he says or something will come in the future what is it ?
after you consumed it the game restarted?
The fact that the tenno talk in this is so cool :3
i love teshins voice :P
Was waiting for this, thank you
Yes I been wait for this
hello just finished the adventure and these were my choices:
1. Light
2. Balance
3. Light
I think the father of the Tenno is still alive~
Sai Kisaragi
Would make for a good update
Alternatively whatever entity was 'watching' their ship from within the void. Because that has some serious implications.
Sai Kisaragi oh great as if Amon in star craft wasn't freaky enough now warframes got one.
Maybe not alive but it was Tenno s father
Hunhow.
I just let her rot, she was already dead, i didnt want tenshin and i to make bloodshed something to be proud of. I also drank the kuva, more power means more people that can be saved in my opinion
The tenno are within the sun The conclave are within the moon if cobaine it both it will be suon
Muun
The kuva part the music tone is kinda changing :D it's pretty cool
The 'Dark' doesn't mean so evil, it could mean you are so close to death that your vision is blacking out and losing itself to the darkness or the other way, the 'light' are just somehow filled with 'fire' on the surface.
while the night has calm environment.
I choose the night for the sake of what Tenno should be keeping for the calm and peace.
If it's me I think it's more like since we already use this power
It's comes down to, whether we reject it or let it "flow" like water kinda thing
I chose the harry Potter way and destroyed the elder staff.
Pretty interesting as how the selection moves towards the moon, the voice gets darker.
I really wanted to know what does kuva taste like.
Dark Year at a guess it probably tastes like crappie, did you see the tennos face lol. but it could be anything, up too you, coolaid, blood, maybe even dingle berries, the possibility is endless.
also screw auto correct.
For me is like blood, I've heard in game that kuva was something from the orokin's blood
Space Kool aid.
At first, kuva tastes like cinnamon but it's never twice the same. It's like life - it presents a different face each time you take it. Some hold that the kuva produces a learned-flavour reaction. The body, learning a thing is good for it, interprets the flavour as pleasurable; slightly euphoric. And, like life, never to be truly synthesized.
That music cue when the operator consumes the kuva....its like "you fucked up"
The person at the end that says kiddo was the guy that posses rell, right? He has the same eyes and says kiddo often.
Finnitto the void/man in the wall
Thank you for making this vid I don't wanna f up this choice so I wanna see them all
so if I chose all the neutral choices would it change anything
Daniel viera maybe in the next quest DE makes the choices you chose have a impact like the telltale games
the next quest will be the Perrin Sequence infestation frame quest.
Although the choices here *may* affect the next Tennoquest, possibly something related to the "Hey Kiddo" entity.
One can speculate it may be a parent that is hiding in the void (due to the Tennos being destroyed), but knowing that Tennos are extinct (or possibly), that idea would be a fallacy.
Vriska Serket I doomed I drank the kuva and now the evil within me will unleash its havok across the multiple tenno out there. I'm watching you
Hmmm do we have Umbra Warframes?
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My reason: No matter how "pure" we might believe we are, we're not immune to temptation. There's always gonna be times where we'll want something, and don't care if there are any potential repercussions, down the road.
Or: there's also the risk that instead of (overall) growing stronger, it would do nothing but change us. Both for the better, and for the worse. ...But mainly for the worse.
so either way shes there trying to control you?
As for a Warframe player I chose sun and neutral never moon but mine is like showing sideways sun and one choice could make it mix, I let the queen rot, I controlled the kuva
Same and I want to change now to neutral all
Thanks for this!
On a random note. Did you make your operator look like Eleonor from Bioshock on purpose or was it just a cointcidence?
"No. I will do it.*
The person who passes the sentence shall swing the sword.
are those choises actually affects something? i mean exept the story quest a litle.
In Devstream #83 Steve talked about them affecting some new system in the future, or something like that.
Do those choices actually affect anything?*
Later DLC, I think.
It'll likely have something to do with embracing Umbral frames
Just recently started play Warframe actively (mr7 yet unlocked new war)
After completion of War within (moon, neutral, moon, moon) and Sacrifice after it I felt that feeling of catharsis I have not felt for a long time in gaming experience
What I'd really like to know is whether or not Teshin was able to see what was actually happening during that last choice, and if he did, then that raises another more important question; was the voice talking to the Operator, or was it really talking to Teshin?
Considering the voice presumably comes from the void as does the orphan and that he says "kiddo", it's a safe bet the voice was talking to the Tenno.
Pretty sure it was part of you
Something about that kiddo part makes me think that the operator's father is going to be an antagonist eventually due to the evil looking eyes
how did he manage to do all 3 versions on the same character is the quest repeatable?
You can replay the quest many times as you want from the index.
@@Annoying_Killah Codex, not Index. Index is the thing on Neptune.
@@suitguy969 No shit.
I know I’m late to the party but I’m pretty sure the voice is the void it self and drinking the kuva gives it more power making it slowly becoming it’s own person
The voice is the man in the wall when he says you owe me or you are nothing without refers to a deal he made with the operator, not gonna spoil more just in case you haven't seen the latest quests
Kinda conflicted myself about how some of the choices are supposedly good or bad, I mean letting the Grineer Queen rot, how is that supposedly a moral good choice? condemning somebody to a long life of slowly rotting and dying is "good" opposed to granting them a swift painless death?!
My own choices actually ended up with leaning stronger to the darker side.
1 "They had lost their minds" In a situation like that, its better to keep yourself safe, but not go on a killing spree ether as those people might be saved as well.
2 "I embraced it" come on, you are a kid that gets strange space magic. Sure you would be afraid at first, but what kid does not want superpowers?
3 "Kill her" Teshin himself just said he has been waiting all this time to kill her, who am I to deny him his revenge? aside of that I literally already killed myself past thousands upon thousands of Grineer, Corpus, infested and other beings. Why would this queen be any more special to deserve the privilege to go on living? Just because she has the status of Queen and is not a regular grunt we are told to cut down without any mercy?
4 "Control" Only those steeped in fear due to ignorance destroy what they don't understand, and only fools try to drink something when they don't even know what it is.
The most logical choice is to keep it, examine it and learn what it is, what it does, and then decide whatever you should do with it.
I'd go evil. Can't wait till I get that quest
careful with that "embrace" choice, just as with Kuva vial at the end you really cant be afraid of your own power yet to blindly relish in it is just as dangerous and pretty slippery slope to be on ...
control is the real Tenno choice - always - you have way too much power in your hands to be afraid of it or to use it recklessly, so you train to master it, to control it, to bend it to YOUR will, to become one with it without losing yourself in it ...
I destroyed the kuva, my reasoning behind that was that it already condemned too many lives, the queens were able to do so much, it has done too much
I gave it to him. Dude's a slave to it, whatever it is. Best he be in control of his own destiny.
That, and I ain't gon' drink Wally's corrupted Orokin lifestream juice. It's clear from his responses that that's what he wants, & he seems like a bad hombre, what with all the stuff Rell discerned, and the fact that he made our parents try to kill us and what not. Pouring it out seems like a waste, & hell, we might need it later to inoculate or turn the power back on Wally or summin, who knows. We turned down untold power, both of the Orokin & the Void. I trust uncle because he gave us the choice, & who's he gonna respect more than a monarch who gave him his freedom as soon as we'd gained it? He knows more about the Orokin & the Old War than we do, that's for sure - and he's no longer their slave.
wish there was a butterfly effect in that game ;_;
DE confirmed that the choice you make will have consequences on the next quest that's coming, and it will have something to do with a new power system just like you had to make a choice with focus. And like with focus, your choice will not be set in stone, you will be able to change it if you don't like the outcome.
KamikazeeGecko The description for madurai is misleading. I only picked it because I thought I was going to have a beam of 10000 damage. I still haven't got to 2000 once. zenurik, vazarin, and Naramon are the only good focus skills
Joshua Galano I liked this only because your profile picture...
There might be...
flashfive12 I do 19000 damage with a 211 amp Phoenix talons and Phoenix spirt. You sir are just shit at building.
I did 2 neutral choices, 1 good, 1 bad and still ended up just a teeny tiny to the dark side.
consume and embrace the kuva. no regrets
Then you get space aids from all that fermented orokin blood droplets
Thanks pal. Helped understand the story some more
what change if you choose moon or Sun?
Pretty much, expect in the second last cutscene it kinda makes sense to pick the moon (let Teshin kill her).
Annoying Killah yes, but consume the blood of that stone, was something like... i don't know how to say it
I decided to go full evil, wanna see what it feels like to have the hatred and pure power of the void will the tenno mind and their warframes, and I hate that Lotus is still lying and keeping secrets away, so maybe if I go full rouge, I´ll find out more
same here
+Annoying Killah The way I see it, it was a good opportunity to see what Teshin can do without revealing your own abilities. Also it feels like you're the one who gets to give the orders for a change.
the "don't forget kiddo" scene is new because when i finish this i make a destroy or that control
your operator is so beautiful i must say, she is like a barbie
His operator looks like edge queen. And ugly.
Shut up ordis.
That voice at the end that says "What took you so long?" and all that is actually the characters father.
I know this is from 3 years ago but... that's actually the Void. lol.
So Warframe is becoming a Telltale game. Huh.
Except you can't guess everything that's about to happen cause space ninjas and red concentrated DNA juice
Except that it actually has gameplay.
I drank it I hope we get to do something more with that in the future
I had a terrible experience playing this quest I will never repeat it again.
LFC 4life what was wrong?
some of the part were super annoying to pass i almost quit the game because of it due to failing several times
Aha yeah. 'Golden Maws'. Yeah I don't plan on replaying it solely because of that part.
Yes, just got done playing the quest, too much of it was annoying, and warframe's lack of notifying you what to do until it's too late, or not at all
lol I found most if not all pretty easy, the only hard part was the monster that hid in the bones, but that was more so my impatience that caused me to fail
Thanks for the compilation!
Like if you chose pure good. Live the tenno way
Douglas Murphy The Tenno weren't all good. They betrayed the Orokin and assassinated all their leadership without warning.
Douglas Murphy I think that the Tenno are rather of the neutral way, but maybe we've seen them too much as a group and not as an individual.
Live the Tenno way? Good? How are Tenno good in any way? They are 100% neutral in every way.
Douglas Murphy
Living the Tenno way is Neutral you fool
There is no good side in this
+icspps The Orokin had plenty of warnings. What the Tenno did wasn't bad, it was just the natural result of the Orokin's behaviour.
Before doing the quest I thought for sure that I would be sun but when I actually did it the neutral choices sounded more like things I would say. And thus, here we are.
That moment when you realize, Tenshi helps you, then did the sacrifice and you help Tenshi...
I just want to see if the infested door on my ship finally opens... Need to "cleanse" behind the hard to get to places.
There's something telling about the possibilities of the last decision. Handing over ("controlling" HOW?) the Kuva (Playable Character?) Drinking it (Possible metamorphosis). They have a reason for not saying yet... Possibly increasing the involvement/inventory of the Factions? I LOVE this game. Maybe the most important recent game, based on how it's redefined (basically shattered) the pay to play concept. I pay for things because I want these people to have my money.
this game is secretly a horror game
It used to be. 🥲
@Annoying_Killah after the chains of harrow quest I have had trouble walking around my orbiter
I love your Operator taste ! :)
Thansk : >
If you press alt f4 for each dialogue selection, you will have the chance to try all the dialogues :)
For all the dialogue choices in this quest and at the end of "The Second Dream" I chose neutral choices.
Is it bad that I choose to consume the elixir?
I don't want to destroy , I don't want to consume, I want to control it
Who here thinks it’s the father figure she talks about when he says there’s something out there kiddo watching us