Love will Tear Us Apart - Joy Division | College Students' FIRST TIME REACTION!
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After Ian Curtis died the rest of the band continued as New Order and remained a highly influential band throughout the 80's. With the release of Blue Monday they in effect established a new genre of music.
New Order became truly one of the greatest bands EVER!
I listened to pretty much nothing but New Order in the summer of 1989.
thank you... even tho' this is my era of music, I did not know that Joy Division became New Order!
Joy Division are my favourite band but I don't like New Order at all. They're missing the punk element and the darkness.
@@stinksofbeefio 😂 I get what your saying but to be honest I can only take so much darkness, then I need some light. 😂
To me, this song is almost beyond liking or disliking it. Either you relate to it emotionally or you don't.
exactly
Bingo
Exactly right!
Yeah, as a teen in the 80's, I just never connected to it then or now. Not sure why. I don't hate it, but I don't love it either.
For some people, it takes time and different life experiences, too.
This song is all about Ian Curtis's lyrics, which are autobiographical. The stark music reflects his emotional turmoil perfectly. Epiliepsy, depression, marriage break-up, impending suicide. When you know the backstory it gets an easy S.
ya...you have to know the context here
I'm happy with their A/A- considering my brother positively hates my favorite band (JD). I think it's just turnabout is fair play for him as I hate his favorite band (Rush). 🙂
I mean, don't get me wrong, but it is also all about that fucking majestic bassline too.
@@eboethrasher Of course
Kanu reaves said this was his favorite song ever. Honestly one of the best songs ever made.
Love, love, love Joy Division. I'm sixty-four and got to experience their intro to the public. Such cool times.
I enjoyed the picture you painted. But I think its really a picture of a depressing Britain at the end of the 70s. I was 16 in 1979 living in the Manchester area and this song is like an anthem to me.
I totally agree. It’s timeless but is so evocative of my youth in GM in the late 70’s and early 80’s and the journey that culminated in the hedonism of the Hacienda. Atmosphere is the anthem to my youth still.
Without context, and with 40+yrs of time gone by, the song can't be a stand alone A+ or S. But if you were in high school back then and paying attention, Ian Curtis' story and the whole Closer album changed you. Yes, life can be that dark, it wasn't a pose like it was in punk, and yeah he really did that..
BINGO.
Yes, to understand this you HAVE to understand the historical context. Watching 24 Hour Party People would be a good start, and then maybe a little more reading.
I dont remember hearing this song on the radio back then. We had good music to take in, but it was so different for 1980, im guessing this song really changed everything... because so many bands took thier influence big time. I dont remember hearing music like this at all in the 70s but totally in the 80s. Yes dark is a good way to describe the 80s music for me.
Context is everything!
Nailed it!
Check out "Transmission", "She's Lost Control" and "Dead Souls" next to hear the rawer, rocking side of the band. "Love Will Tear Us Apart" was close to the last song they recorded, as they continued to evolve into a more New Order-style soundscape (New Order is the band JD would reform as, after singer/lyricist Ian Curtis committed suicide). By the time it made it onto the radio, Ian was gone. For a taste of their dark eligiac sound, check out "Atmosphere" and "Heart and Soul". A different kind of sauce.
Yes, “Dead Souls.” Yes.
Dead Souls is an absolute must.
Also “She’s lost control” - which he wrote way before he knew he had epilepsy - he saw a young girl suffer from a terrible seizure and it haunted him
Novelty or no love lost. Love those ones so much.
Please hit the Jam !!! They'll be one of your favorites of this era.
Yep !! Have to agree!!
That’s entertainment maybe
@@zak6209 HA ! or " Down In The Tube Station At Midnight " !!!!
I agree
The Distant Echo of Faraway Voices Boarding Faraway trains !!
One the most influential Post-Punk Bands of all time!
I am not sure this the New Wave they were looking for in the poll. Definitely Post-Punk.
Not New Wave?
@@Meandmymirror nope, it was before New Wave
Who did they influence?
@@modmary3527 well then this song should not have been in their poll! It asked what new wave songs they should hit. I demand to do over! Play the cure
I think, just like with Cat Steven's Father and Son, you guys need to take a closer look at the lyrics and context of this song. There's so much depth and tragedy there to be discovered.
He was also suicidal and deeply depressed.
Not everyone is going to be in that state of mind to appreciate that sound
Well if that's the case then dont put your vocals so soft in the mix that all you hear is mumbling and then the chorus. Cat stevens you could easily discern.
@@penderyn8794 A person doesn't have to be suicidal and deeply depressed to appreciate Joy Division. It could *help* , in "getting" some of Ian's lyrics, to have once been in a dark place like that and emerged from it, but thankfully, it's not absolutely necessary!
@@zenclover8468 philistine!
I’m having it played at my fathers funeral next week.
This is an absolute indie classic. It’s not got frills and isn’t pretending to be something else. It’s just a hard hitting rock song with stunning lyrics and a brilliant bassline. It’s one million percent S~Tier in my opinion 🔥💜
I agree Mikey
One of favourite songs ever, I love JDs music so much. Unknown Pleasures And Closer are both masterpieces
An extremely important thing that they missed is that Joy Division became New Order after the suicide of Ian Curtis.
This song absolutely blows me away. I probably heard it later on, the radio or tv or internet. This song came out in 1980. Wow, they played New Wave bands like the Cars and Blondie but I dont remember hearing this on the radio back then. Dang. I absolutely love this and I'm wondering did any song sound like this before this? But this definitely influenced music ever after. Makes me want to hear alot more.
Drums mixed too high. Not enough interesting guitar hooks and dull repetitive singing. Way overrated.
Joy Division: such an innovative band. Only 2 albums, but legendary.
If you have the chance, Peter Hook & the Light are touring the US this summer performing both JD albums. I saw him perform this same concert a few years back and it's so amazing. Hooky sounds more like Ian than you can imagine.
And I always wonder as I do w/ Buddy, Bopper & 17yr old Richie what would have been.
@@salinagrrrl69 Completely agree.
@@katm6 Would be interesting
Unfortunately I live in Europe.
@@katm6 saw them a few years ago too, same tour, and it was one of the best shows I've been to , the energy of the crowd was insane, everyone was dancing and singing along.
I'm excited about this one! It's gonna be either love or hate. No in-between! I love everything Joy Division did.
Not watch the video yet but agree totally with what the reaction may well be
I guess I am the exception then, because I just don’t feel anything listening to them, they are just ok
@@HamiltonRb it's ok. JD is one of those bands that you either love or hate, IMHO.
@@joannasunday Maybe that's why they're called Joy Division. Half the people will feel joy, half of them won't.😜
I'll see myself out...😞
@@centuryrox no, that was actually clever
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I would definitely recommend that you take a listen to a little more Joy Division. In their short time as a band they made a pretty quick transition from more stripped down punk influenced stuff to huge atmospheric recordings, but somehow it all fits together well if you listen to it from start to finish.
"Love Will Tear Us Apart" is clearly their catchiest hit single kind of song that straddles these sounds, but stuff like "Digital," "She's Lost Control," and "Atmosphere" would really help you flesh out what they were as a band.
And Transmission.
Atmosphere is brilliant.
We used to play Joy Division's 'Love will tear us apart', in pubs and absolutely NOBODY got it.....it was hilarious to see everyone get up, go to the restroom, to the bar for a beer (the bar loved that aspect of our sonic torture!), outside for a smoko - whatever - anything to take their minds off of what is essentially a huge 'crowd-killer' in a pub live-music environment. While fun for the band to play, settling into that mesmerizing groove, with those changes - it was a hoot, but pure torture for the crowd. We'd later play 'warsaw', and that would definitely wake em up in a good way.
@@jokermtb - That's insane to me. I'd run to the dance floor if LWTUA came on. Actually, any JD song.
@@katm6 thank you!
Great tune.
I believe you two are ready for Television. It is time.
It's overdue! Marquee Moon or See No Evil, please!
I want my MTV! The way it was in the 80s when they play music videos only
This is a song about a disintegrating marriage, so it's odd that you would associate it with teenage years. This band has an interesting and tragic story, with a surprising second act (New Order). Their story is told in not one but two great movies, "24 Hour Party People" starring Steve Coogan and directed by Michael Winterbottom, and Anton Corbijn's "Control," based on Ian Curtis's widow's memoir. Winterbottom is one of the great underrated directors of his generation. Corbijn made many of the most well-known black-and-white photographs of the group, and his movie is accordingly beautifully shot.
Love this. Here's what bassist Peter Hook said about his playing in general: "I never really did play bass because I always found it intensely annoying whenever some twat of a guitarist would turn around to you and say 'could you play the root note?' No, I can't play the fucking root note. Piss off. ...It perpetuates the myth that bass players are supposed to do what they're told, and I'm not very good at doing what I'm told." This song was built around his bass line, and the bass became much much more important to rock music during the new wave/post-punk era than it had ever been before in rock music. The bass started to be used much more prominently as a melodic instrument, not just as a timekeeper.
I adore Hooky. The absolute highlight of my life was the night I got to meet him and he gave me two hugs and a kiss on the cheek. I was over the moon for months.
@@katm6 he sat in on a local radio show a couple of years back and was a great dj. good stories and great musical selections too!
Wow this reaction introduced me to this song and band. I absolutely love this classic! Thank you Andy and Alex! ❤
This song is the masterpiece at the end of the Joy Division journey. You really need to go back and listen to their early work, understand the story of the band and watch some live performances by Curtis. Then listen to this again.
I think they'd like the song Warsaw.
It’s called new wave because it was a new approach/direction/sensibility to popular music.
Ian Curtis was such a loss when he left us in 1980, Joy divisons music is so dark and intresting theyre a great band, Unknown pleasures and Closer are brilliant. Especially Unknown Pleasures, straight bangers such as Disorder, Day of the Lords, New Dawn Fades, Shes Lost Control and ShadowPlay. Theyre BRILLIANT! Should do one of these next or Transmission or Atmosphere next. RIP Ian Curtis
OH NO!! There was a time when I would have been excited for you guys to hear this. That time has passed. This is not music to be analyzed... it's music to be felt. You either get Joy Division or you don't.. and if you don't just move on quietly.
I'm a little nervous too, because they didn't get She Sells Sanctuary.
Like White Castles! You either love em, or hate em….no in between
@@loosilu Exactly... there won't be meticulous instrumentals or vocals. It's not standard rock n roll.
Good call. Yes this is a mood song. Not to be analyzed really.
I don't get it and that's ok.
We would literally just sit in our rooms, crank up the volume and try not to cry. And then hit the replay button.
Joy Division initiated a sound and a look that has been much imitated over the last 40 years, but no one ever came close to matching their lyrical and sonic intensity and depth.
I love this band, although I'm not sure Andy and Alex will get it. You had to be there to appreciate how amazing this band was at the time.
I wasn't there at the time, and I love Joy Division. I didn't even hear them until thirteen years after Ian's death, and still, to this day, no rock band has had more of a profound impact on me, in my 40-plus years as a music lover. They changed the way that I think about music and listen to it, and they even had an impact on how I think about life itself.
Actually, I was surprised when Andy "felt numbness". I felt he did get it without knowing the back story. This song transcends all genres. I don't know if they will get JD's songs or something like Blue Monday. Hopefully, they grow out of "Bro" rock and appreciate the nuances of a lot of '80s alt music. I can understand if they don't, being lucky to take it in when it was all happening.
One of my favourite songs of all time but you'll either love it or hate it. Fingers crossed 🤞 RIP Ian Curtis.
I don’t like it
I hate it
At the end of the day the guys are grading on the music they’ve just heard rather than the history of the band, the context of the song or what the band later became. This song can be a tough listen the first time you hear it and A&A gave it a higher grade than I’d expected they would.
I sense a couple of B+ coming. And even that will be them wanting not to offend.
Well, I was wrong.
Great reaction A&A. This one is worth a lyric dive. Tragic circumstances surrounding this song and this band, but some great music came out of it. Thanks fellas. ✌🤘
powerful tune. Consider KILLING MOON by Echo and the Bunny men. .
Consider anything/everything by Echo and the Bunnymen. My favorite band and the band I’ve seen live the most times (NYC)(they still tour).
"I've been waiting for a guide to come and take me by the hand
Could these sensations make me feel the pleasures of a normal man?
Lose sensations, spare the insults, leave them for another day
I've got the spirit, lose the feeling
Take the shock away" First line of their first song off their first album. Rather daring eh? Love From Canada.💞
New Order - one of the best dance/pop bands of all time. A Catalogue of brilliant hits. The first band were the bass guitar was at times the lead instrument. Brilliant, brilliant work.
My favorite band of the 80s. I'm really not an electronic music guy, but I make a huge exception for New Order because they are so musically interesting.
AH maybe !! Check " Sparks " " Number 1 in Heaven " Ace !!!
They were a great band who did not achieve a lot of success at the time but got bigger after the lead singer died. Saw them in 79. Try listening to 'Shadowplay' , 'Decades' or live version of 'New dawn fades' by them to name but 3. I've got all of their records even when they were named Warsaw.
I'm officially jealous that you saw them live. If the T.A.R.D.I.S. ever shows up on my doorstep, I'm going back to 1978/1979 and going to every single JD concert.
Fun fact: this song was written as a direct rebuttal to 'Love Will Keep Us Together' by The Captain and Tenille. Seriously. Google it.
That is fun! Not ashamed to admit that I loved that song (Love Will Keep Us Together). So boppy and optimistic.
Absolutely love the story scene you both created in your heads. Good stuff guys. This is what separates you apart from the rest of the reactors. Your thoughtful insite's and reflections .
I was in a band once, they made me sing it. Never was into this group or genre, but I did it. It didn't change my mind any.
Of course, there was the Furs. To me, this whole genre was The Psychedelic Furs and everyone else trying to sound like them. The Furs were cool, everyone else bored me. But that's just me :)
Alternative/college radio coming on the scene. Danced to this a hundred times.
Joy Dovision will grow on you. Takes a couple listens and then they grip your soul. They have some amazing songs and back in the day, it was like nothing else .
Missed Joy Division at the time and still no nothing beyond just hearing this song. Thanks guys. Will give them more of a listen.
There's a whole context to appreciating Joy Division that new comers will never really have. Having not been there at the time these guys broke onto the scene with their *totally* unique sound, only to then hear of Ian's tragic suicide, it makes the lyrics and music..not only nostalgic...but so much more emotionally impacting.
Andy….you should write short stories! I’m serious. You are so imaginative and can paint a whole backstory with your words. I love it when you do that!
I just wanna say that you guys are so intelligent and perceptive with such amazing analytical minds towards music. And that I really appreciate you both. That is all 🖤
A MUST SEE MOVIE! "CONTROL" a bio picture of Ian Curtis the gifted center vocals of JOY DIVISION.
One of the most influential songs of the post-punk/new wave era. The Smiths, the Cure, Echo and the Bunnymen, U2 and obviously New Order. There is a great segment tribute to this by Bono in his songs that saved my life segments.
yep !!
you've got it.... all what you mention and INXS, The The, Siouxsie and the Banshees, Depeche Mode, OMD, SpandaU Ballet, Blondie, Talk Talk, Simple Minds, XTC, The Jam, China Crisis etc...all different but in the same field so to say, Maybe The Jam was more at Punk
I wish someone would react to Echo and the Bunnymen, one of my all time favorite bands. I’ve seen them so many times live (NYC), from early on through now! Yes they still tour. Love you, Mac!
@@foxandscout Lips Like Sugar, Sugar Kisses...💋💋💋
@@lindakessler8768 yes, this. But also so many more. Like all of the first four albums.
Alex nailed every detail of the setting that made/makes this track work. Listening to it in a vacuum here it seemed pretty threadbare, but it and other new wave faves really depend on setting.
I think of Joy Division as a band where you listen to the entire album, not individual songs. They only have two, but that are awesome. And they all have the same vibe as this song. Ian's vocal style is very unique and sets the tone for sure. Great band. RIP Ian.
It is such a treat when your heads bob in sync. I am looking forward to your ventures into new wave and post-punk, some rich material. New Order, Billy Idol, Souise and The Banshees (I'm drunk), Iggy Pop. Great stuff.
I think this one will grow on you over time. Alex's scenario for the song was a journey on its own.
Check out the live version of Joy Division's "Transmission" from Tony Wilson's TV show -- a seminal moment in Brit Rock. And watch the films "Control" (Ian Curtis biopic) and "24 Hour Power People" (about the aesthetic in Manchester at the time) -- both worthwhile.
"24 Hour Party People"
Alex! Perfect description of the vibe of the song! Wow!
You can hear why so many present and future musicians were inspired by them
Listen to the album Unknown Pleasures, it's a masterpiece of post punk vibes.
Love that album, I still have have my Original Vinyl.
Same :)
So unique and hugely influential to everything that came after.
The bass player, Peter Hook, still performs the music of Joy Division and New Order with his band Peter Hook and The Light. I've seen Peter's band two times recently and his bass playing is God tier. Choices for more Joy Divsion, Disorder and Transmission. New Order Thieves Like Us, Bizarre Love Triangle.
This is definitely the most "radio-friendly" Joy Division song, and as a JD fan for close to 30 years, I do love it. However, it's also not even one of their *best* songs, to me, and I *still* would give it at least an A+. It helped to create a form of thoughtful, moody, synth-dance-rock that still resonates today. New Order came directly out of Joy Division, after Ian Curtis' death, and these two bands influenced so, so many others!
Atmosphere is pretty accessible too, I think.
@@SpuddySpud "Atmosphere" is one of my very favorite songs by them, and it's pretty melodic and hummable. However, and I could be wrong, but I sense that Ian's slightly off-key vocal in that song would really grate on the nerves of a lot of music fans who aren't used to styles of rock and roll that *are not* fairly polished, '60s and '70s radio-ready classic rock. I'd be interested to see Andy and Alex react to it. They might just love it!
@@christianman73 I've been a fan of Joy Division for decades (see what I did there?), but Ian's vocals on "Atmosphere" are absolutely awful. He sounds like Sid Vicious at the beginning of his take on "My Way." The music, of course, is gorgeous.
I would be highly interested in seeing you do a segment exploring more of the 80’s college rock/goth/new wave musical path. The Cure, Echo & the Bunnymen, Concrete Blonde, New Order(which came from Joy Division), Bauhaus, Love and Rockets, Depeche Mode, XTC, Sisters of Mercy, just to name a few. A wide range of musical expression for every mood during that time.
This period in music was full of brooding young English bands, and Joy Division was certainly one of those. Indeed, this song came out a month after the lead singer committed suicide due to relationship problems and ongoing epilepsy treatment that rendered him impotent. I'm surprised you didn't seize on the lyric that opens the song. "
When routine bites hard
And ambitions are low
And resentment rides high
But emotions won't grow
And we're changing our ways
Taking different roads
Then, love, love will tear us apart again
Love, love will tear us apart again
Another fascinating thing in that song that was also characteristic of the music of New Order formed from the remains of Joy Division is the bass line. The bass player Peter Hook says that they couldn't afford proper bass amplifiers in the band's earlier days. As a result, you could not hear the bass at all if he played in the lower register of the bass, so he started playing in the very upper register of the bass just so he could be heard and then kept the style.
Glad to hear this one from JD for sure. I think you'll enjoy Ceremony.
Guys, this, although a great song, is also their most accessible. If you want to get into the gritty and haunting Joy Division songs, try these:
Transmission
Atmosphere
From Safety To Where?
The Eternal
Dead Souls
24 Hours
Passover
Decades
RIP Ian Curtis (1956-1980)
As others have pointed out, for Joy Division,"Love Will Tear Us Apart" is a pop song. You have to dig deeper to get a better understanding of how influential they were. Here's a cool, 6-course musical meal to get a fuller taste: start with the single "Transmission", then album side 2 of Unknown Pleasures, followed by album side 2 of Closer, ending with another single "Atmosphere". For dessert, add two early New Order songs: "Ceremony" (actually a Joy Division song, but never officially recorded) and end with "Dreams Never End", a beautiful final "goodbye" to Ian that launches New Order's first album, Movement.
Dreams Never End. Favourite new order song and one of the coolest intros of any somg ever. Also gives me an opportunity to point out something i forgot to mention in my own comment which was i was really surprised A&A didn’t comment on Hooky’s bass line.
That's pretty hilarious, "Love Will Tear Us Apart" is not a "pop" song lol. Obviously you weren't alive (or paying attention) back in 1980, or maybe you were living in an alternative reality, lol Sorry Alan, Ian croaking out the lyrics, sounding like he's singing from underneath a staircase, and just barely managing to warble the chorus melody in pitch: that was not commercial pop for 1980
@@TTM9691 You have to read ALL the words because context is important. I wrote "As others have pointed out, FOR JOY DIVISION, 'Love Will Tear Us Apart' is a pop song". Those words mean that compared to other bands, "LWTUA" was the equivalent of a pop song, not because it was commercial pop, but because compared to their other songs, it was more accesible and got far more play on the radio. I immediately followed that up with a detailed and knowledgeable recommendation of how to dig deeper into their catalogue. You should try it.
Right on guys. I hope this is the start of a trend to reacting to more 80's ' alternative ' music. New Order, Depeche Mode and The Cure in particular deserve some deep digging.
I keep begging for Depeche Mode and the cure. And inxs Violent Femmes trying to think of new wave alternative bands that have some bangers not just this slow atmospheric music
No matter how many times I listen to Joy Division I can't get into them I've been listening to music since elementary school I loved your reaction to the Kids are alright now there's a band
Now that you've hit The Smiths and Joy Division you NEED to hit Waterfall or I Wanna Be Adored by the Stone Roses!!! that's basically like the two older bands had a baby and that baby took things a step further and made things a step heavier; brilliant songs!
A hugely influential band, and one that is almost more of “a musicians’ musician” kinda’ sound as they never quite got “mainstream” , and had a huge tragedy before fully taking off … they practically invented what would later be known as the ‘post punk’ sound, which bands like the Cure, Depeche Mode, Nine Inch Nails, The Killers, The Faint and a bunch more would be influenced by … it has such huge ripples that you can still hear in the music for Billie Eillish for example.
Imagine being raised on blues-based and jazzy rock with whaling singers/guitarists showing their chops - and walking into a club to hear the driving, droning buzz, jerky rhythms and Ian's sonorous existential word pictures - lives forever changed. Modern music like modern art.
Thanks guys, I would give a C- and would not want to listen to this song again. Hope you have a wonderful weekend!
that's because you no nothing of the context!
Lord bless & keep you Charlie! @@charliegeorge9393
This was amazing! And I hope y’all will consider exploring New Order in the near future. They’ve recorded as recently as 2015 and are still actively touring. Most people would probably recommend “Blue Monday.” Without a doubt, it was a monster hit. But I would recommend “Bizarre Love Triangle” from 1986 as your first N.O. reaction. And their later stuff is equally good. I absolutely love “Regret” from 1993 and “Crystal,” a banger from 2001.
You want atmosphere, hit 'Shadowplay' from their first album - another great is 'She's Lost Control' 'Atmosphere' is also great. What you have to appreciate is like the Sex Pistols' Anarchy in the UK' did for punk - Joy Division did for post-punk & the 2nd British invasion of 80's synth bands - they are one of those 'favorite bands of my favorite bands' - incredibly influential given only the two albums. You should really watch the film about them, 'Control' is really great and helps to understand how they were formed and why Ian Curtis took his life - it's a truly tragic story, and the world lost so much brilliant music when he died. Another really great film, '24hr Party People' that deals with the Manchester (music) scene that grew out of a single, sparsely attended Sex Pistols show in Manchester in 1976 - under 50 people were there, but one formed a record label, Factory Records, and three extremely important bands formed from it; The Buzzcocks, Joy Division and The Smiths.
When after listening, you launch into a very detailed review of the imagery and feelings and senses that the song conjures - that, my friends is art. Art fires up the synapses for better or worse. This song has a different (weird?) production that maybe didn't fully light up your emotions, but it it lit up your brain hard. Nice reaction!
How did I miss the notification on this????? I haven't watched yet, and I'm going to be beyond sad if they do not like it. Joy Division is my absolute favorite band, so the stakes were high for me.
Edit: How cool that Alex's cousins are Joy Division fans. Wow, so amazing you caught the similarity to The Passenger, as Ian loved Iggy. The night he died, he had been listening to The Idiot. And for Andy to use the word "atmospheric" when one of my favorite songs by JD is Atmosphere. My favoritest JD song is The Eternal ever since I heard Hooky perform it live.
U2 are big fans of JD, so hearing U2 in JD is really the reverse. You're hearing JD in U2. 🙂
Additional edit: My avatar here is always Closer, I did not change it to match the content.
That Peter Hook bass line
My beautiful dark twisted gothy 20’s…memory lane! There are so many memories, and such a mood, associated with this song. ❤️
Ack! chat not working for me today. Someone mentioned they hope this opens the door to the Psychedelic Furs. I second that wholeheartedly!!
Edit: I'm thrilled you liked JD as much as you did!!! Thanks, gents!
I remember this song. I like it but never knew who did it. Reminds me of that monotone type singing of other bands from that period. Couldn't understand most of what was being said and never cared enough to look it up. But I still liked it...("it had a good beat and I could dance to it") 😉
Love that they talk about the music and what makes them feel. Too many reacts IMHO dive right into dissecting lyrics and never really discuss the music and what it does to them emotionally.
One of the greatest songs ever written.
you've gotta go to the lyrics,
the starkness of the lyrics is the necessary piece to 'get' the atmosphere...
One of my favorite songs of ALL time. 🙌🏽
And to think that nobody knew or asked Ian what his incredibly melancholy lyrics were about - he was singing about his disintegrating marriage and his awareness of how his epilepsy was dooming his life as the lead singer of a big new wave band…it’s so heartbreaking…and to think he wrote “she’s lost control” way before he was diagnosed with epilepsy…
Learned to play this and found that a lot of JD is easy to get into. Thank you, gentlemen! And watch 'Control' if you get the chance!
Thanks for taking one for the channel fellas. I bailed early lest I drive into a bridge abutment to make it stop.
too bad you didn't keep listening.
@@burmajones803 you’re about as funny as diarrhea in a traffic jam.
@@67pear you aren't even that funny.
Atmospheric is the best description of their music. Listen to the albums in their entirety and you'll understand why they are so great. There was no-one like them before nor after. Very few bands can be considered unique. They are.
Coming out of the 70's into the 80's Joy Division was a HUGE part of creating the new sound of "Post-Punk" - "New Wave"... when you take into account, that they released only two Albums before Ian Curtis committed suicide right before their head off to the first US-Tour, their influence on the 80's music is still so huge... and not only the 80's, up to this day, nearly every Post-Punk Band you can think of refers Joy Division as one of their biggest influences.
I can't believe you guys gave this song an A. Like as if its up there with other songs you gave an A to. Your cred just fell.
Dude the Alex monolog sounded like John Cusack in the movie High Fidelity explaining the logic behind the song . I freaking love it!
Joy Division are one of the all time greats. You MUST listen to “Transmission” and “Disorder.” 💕
You guys have started delving into my favorite music post punk/new wave/dark wave. These guys were so influential in the music world, it's amazing how little time they were around. Please check out Disorder, Shadowplay and Transmission. Looking forward to you guys checking out other bands of the same genre as well. ❤❤❤
Ian Curtis definitely gone too soon! But, New Order carried the torch! Joy Division influenced bands Like U2, Depeche Mode, The Cure... So many epic 80's bands! Alex, you may not be the biggest fan. But, for those of us who "get it" it's the soundtrack of our lives!
Excellent explanation. I love the fact that I have discovered this gem on here.
Depeche Mode: my favorite band! The Cure, OMD, Psychedelic Furs, Alphaville (forever young), INXS, the Smiths, Erasure…..
Depeche Mode omg my favorite band ever actually Dave gahan made a live cover of this song, George Michael also loved it. This song is massive.
Wow…..this sounds SO 90’s to me, Alternative. Never heard it before nor heard of this band. It sounds like it could have come out even in the 2O00’s……to my old ears. No wonder Andy’s cousins like it…..it sounds current.
Great song, great band, tragic story. They were a bridge between post-punk & goth music
Glad to hear you guys are gonna be doing "The Graduate" this month one of my top 5 all time favorite movies. It was voted one of the top 100 films of the 20th century by the American Film Institute, won an Academy award for its then young director Mike Nichols, and made Dustin Hoffman a major star in his first major role. And the soundtrack by Simon and Garfunkel is top notch. A bit dated today (it came out in 1967) but I think you guys will enjoy it. Very funny and thought provoking.
Joy Division helped kill off the pablum that 70’s music became, love them, the opening to this song is immediately, 2 notes, recognizable to people of my generation, s+ tier
I like this song, I don't love it like some here, but it's worth hearing.
It's cool that you guys can appreciate a more raw "underground" kind of song -- Alex's meandering rambling about going into an underground club to hear this is deadly accurate.
Simply one of the greatest songs ever
There are hundreds of songs like this. 1979-86 Alternative rock was the best. Ambient, Ironic, Brilliant.
Start your journey. In addition to Joy Division, check out New Order, The Smiths, Early U2(Album Boy and War), INXS, Men At Work, Early REM (Murmur, Chronic Town), 10,000 Maniacs, Echo and the Bunnymen, The Cure, Tears for Fears, and The English Beat…
Superb rhythm section, amazing orchestration, and deep melancholy over an upbeat background. A joy to listen to.
Simply one of the most important bands of all time. It’s impossible to put into words how much they influenced a generation, but they influenced at least two generations, with Joy Division and New Order. The contrast between the two bands is stark, and that wasn’t an accident. Very few bands can transcend into high art, but that’s what they did, TWICE.
there is a great documentary about this band and lead singer who battled epilepsy when treatment was very lacking. Transmission one of the best long hypnotic grooves from them
Love Joy Division! You must check out Atmosphere, one of the greatest songs in the history of music