There was a 5700 batch series that used a 125w TDP during the first months in Asian countries. Due to the cost of mosfets used they were able to significantly lower the cost of the card at a minimal cost to performance ratio.
You should try using a wall socket power meter and run the PC via that to see what the overall consumption is with either card to see if there is a clear difference. Could come in handy for future videos too and they're cheap
@Gustav Gamer He doesn't even have a overview graph of the different cards he's reviewed lol It's proper amateur hour here, luckily he covers some interesting stuff...
@@kristoffer3000 Honestly it would be nice, but the channel has an overall charm to it that makes me forget he's running the channel like a middle schooler that's starting his TH-cam career. Maybe that is the charm, idk...
Those connector on the back of the card are low key genius! Imagine for a second all the connectors for mobo’s and gpu’s on the back of the pcb and you just plugged them in from holes in the back of the case and never saw any wires at all.
You have to remember that these GPUs and their form factor are mainly decided by the largest customers to install them, and that's the large brand builders and system integrators. The DIY consumer market is tiny in comparison.
Keep in mind tho this card does not have HW-Raytracing, Variable Rate Shading, Mesh Shading and Sampler Feedback. It also cannot accelerate INT8. This means it will age very badly compared to RTX 2000 and 3000 series in upcoming titles that do not release on old consoles.
@@dampflokfreund Don't get me wrong but remember that are people in this world who don't really care about those features, specially HW-RT. And this is coming from someone who had an nvidia card with good rt capabilities and went back to amd, each to their own.
@@Anthonymvpr Developers care though. If you don't have HW-support for these features, it's going to get rough once cross gen is finally over (the reason why games are still running well on RDNA1 is because developers are still programming for the old generation of consoles without these features) UE5 might be saving it a little, as it does some of these things well in software, but not every game will run on UE5 and UE5.1 does implement some features like mesh shading, boosting performance. Just imagine it like Kepler doing DX12, but it will be much worse.
It's potentially possible the card isn't lying about the Wattage if it is essentially factory undervolted. I can bring my card's power draw down by 20-35% without losing performance by undervolting. That said I'm guessing it's still off by at least 25% or so. Would love to see you do more overclocking and undervolting when you test cards!
That's exactly what I was thinking. And in fact, it's not really off by much if you do the math. Regular TDP ≈ 185W Undervolted TDP ≈ 130W 180W › 100% 130W › X% X% = 130×100/185 ≈ 70.3% Overall, it's well in line with usual undervolting practices, especially that it's an AliExpress card that has almost certainly been involved in crypto mining.
@@SierraAAM I read the 4090 can be undervolted down to 70%-ish and only lose around 3% performance, so that would be pretty similar to the numbers you stated. To me, this is just a major win over the reference design, imagine how much less heat that thing is putting out for practically identical performance.
I just picked up a 6600 a couple weeks ago for $220, extremely happy with it. The Swft 210 model, my card is also noisy at full tilt but not terribly. The fans don't even run while doing basic tasks like net surfing, email, etc.
I get very strong "repurposed mining card manufacturing" vibes off of this card. Mismatching faceplate because it was never meant to have one, downward facing power connectors because they aren't going to be slotted directly into a board anyway, factory undervolted bios resulting in lower power consumption and slightly lower performance. Makes sense they would be repurposing their stock back into gaming GPUs.
@@ByVRM20 definitely not bad, but it could be a big gamble. i fetched one of them MLLSE 5700XT not too long ago, and i've been pleasantly satisfied with it's performance, coming from a 1650Super, hopefully it lasts for many years
I think a lot of these cards that tend to pop up on Ali Express from little known brands/sellers have possibly been used in mining rigs etc in the past. They then get pimped up a bit with new coolers and backplates and sold on as a new product.. (this explains some of the shoddy workmanship and non retail boxes) - would also explain the under volting that appears to be going on with a lot of these cards as well as miners usually under volt them - can't prove it though - just a theory! :)
While you're right that some of the cards they sell are ex-mining cards, that's not all of them. Many others are simply mobile GPUs. They put them on PCBs, give them coolers, package them, and sell them. That's why they're cheaper and has lower power draw. The workmanship looks shoddy because, well, you're not supposed to put a shroud on a mobile GPU. Ditto with the boxes.
@@cerberus_uwu @@paullynch6977 maybe but at that point it's obvious and unless they explicitly say the card is 100% new you can safely assume it's been mined with or just ask the seller,you made it seem as though you're uncovering some revelation or underground mystery 😆
Hilarious that you reviewed this now - I ordered this exact card a few weeks back on sale for a hair under $200CAD ($150USD) shipped. I looked for reviews, but couldn't find any reputable ones. It arrived a couple of days ago, and I've spent 2-3hrs messing around with it, here's my experience. -They actually upgraded me from the 2 fan to the 3 fan version, since the 2 fan was out of stock. -Build quality and overall impressions were similar to those in the video; fairly chintzy, but totally functional. -Card had a super annoying death rattle when under load initially. Took a closer look, and it seemed the shroud was loose. Tightened all the screws, and it seems to have disappeared. Quality control definitely isn't ideal for a brand new card, but what can you expect at the price? -Stupid loud at stock settings for sure. Ran very cool (approx. 60C,) so definitely needs a custom fan curve/speed set. -Undervolted all the way down from 1.2 to 1V. Only dropped core 50MHz, and raised memory 60MHz. Set a custom fan curve. After all of these changes, the card runs at acceptable volume, while still having similar temps and performance, and much lower power consumption. Overall, I'm stoked for this card! Basically 6600XT performance for 6500XT price. Corners were definitely cut, but nothing that can't be worked around/lived with. We'll see how it holds up long term, though.
"I remember this reference cooler howling like a banshee with its tail stuck in the door" Dawid never fails to make me laugh. Keep up the quality content man this was a great video.
I have an RX580 from the same brand. Albeit I bought it 2 months used, it still works perfectly and stays below 80c while playing Minecraft on high with complementary shaders at 1080p 60+ fps.
You only need to cool the MOSFETs, memory and GPU. The board is designed to take tons of heat as well. So you don't need to worry if some of the ICs don't touch the cooler
I had a 3700X/5700XT combo, I loved it - The integration was wonderful. The only thing that let me down was the Dell computer around those parts. I miss the AMD software, I feel the presentation is better than Nvidia's GeForce experience and it didn't cause as many problems. It wasn't as efficient, NVEC is definitely a more mature technology, but it worked well enough. I'm glad AMD is doing so well, they aren't just competition - they're good competition.
5700xt is more than enough for 1080. Got somewhere a 1080ti, which is basically the same card ( maybe a tad stronger) and a 2080 s laying around, gotta say both are still amazing for 1080. Used the 1080ti actually for a lot of 1080p titles and all ran 100+ fps
It still blows me away that the market got so screwed up. I bought a reference rx5700 for £250 three years ago (new) and I could still realistically ask for £180 for it even though it's now 2 generations old. Don't get me wrong, it's a great card and I have no plans to get rid of it but pricing is still over where it should be imo
Corsair makes good RAM but the size of those heat spreaders could prove problematic with larger CPU air coolers, e.g. be Quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4. I hope they consider a less height-y version soon!
Can confirm the 5700xt performs pretty close with an rtx 3060. Have a cyberpower pc with an i5-11600kf with an rtx 3060. And recently I bought one of those miniforum mini pcs (B550 one with external GPU dock), picked up a used sapphire 5700xt for $150, and it actually tests about 1k points higher on 3dmark, go figure (the minipc has a ryzen 5700g so i guess it's no that surprising, but its still kind of funny.
I had the same pre-build cyber power I think. Bought it in 2021. Was really happy with it. Anyways I upgraded it last month with new RAM, PSU, cooler and a 6950 xt. I still have my 3060 12gb evga. Loved the card but ya making the jump to AMD though, been wonderful. Will be replacing my cpu next with a Ryzen. Just to go full team red.
Judging from the oil bleed, it is most likely a repurposed ex-mining card with a custom vBIOS. It's probably undervolted for better running cost hence the lower temperature/power usage.
It's not oil bleed, it's leftover flux from soldering. These cards are brand new, but have cosmetic damages that would've made them unfit for sale. These Ali stores buy factory refuse cards for cheaper, slap on their own custom shrouds/coolers and resell.
You seem to have found a very good deal there! I just had to upgrade to an RX 6700 XT 12GB and am extremely pleased with it, except for the price I had to pay courtesy of a dead RX 580 8GB. It runs Horizon Zero Dawn at 1080p60 on a mix of high and ultra settings without ever dropping below 60fps.
I bought a 5700 a few months ago to upgrade my htpc. Listing was for a 5700 xt and it was not an xt model but the performance was still good enough for the price I paid that I didn't really complain about it too much. Still absolutely a nice gpu and an excellent value buying used these days.
I would guess that the card is made from low-binned GPU silicon so it's been slightly underclocked to get it running stable, and that's why it's using less power and why it's cheap. Seems like a great deal tbh.
Hi Dawid if you're a fan of coil whine and blower style GPUs with 2 x 8 pin connectors at the front of the card, go find yourself a Gigabyte RTX 3080 turbo 10GB and do a video on that. I just got rid of mine after many years of enduring high temps and screaming noise from the card. The cards ran so hot I ended getting an 80mm Noctua fan and zip tied it to the front intake of the card which dropped temps by about 10 degrees, and fan speed by 30%. Love your videos, your sense of humour is right up my alley.
That unboxing was like a tech version of pass the parcel. If you’ve ever bought a graphics card that slid into the case with no room at the back as it was touching the fan shroud, you’ll be glad that it had the power connectors on the top and not on the back.
That loose screwhead made me shiver thinking of scenarios where the buyer doesn't check, and it inevitably causes a short after it ends up lodged somewhere it shouldn't.
So it’s an OEM model 5700XT with a nice cooler on top. Honestly not a bad find even after the taxes and shipping applied, it’s still one beast of a card
That's a pretty great deal honestly. I upgraded my gpu to a 5700 xt I got on sale literally like, a month before the gpupocalypse hit, and it's been fantastic for my 1080p high refresh rate setup.
I am actually impressed with this.... You got a bargain there... I was just waiting for it to turn into an RX260x on GPUz etc but it appears it is actually a proper 5700xt.... fair play to the seller, their website looks legit as well...
I bought my RX 5700 (Reference) Several Years ago. I bios modded it with the XT bios, and just recently got ahold of a water cooler for it. It runs everything I throw at it amazingly at 1440p 144hz medium to high settings. I only recent thought of upgrading so I can delegate it to Handbrake conversions in my server lmao.
I have a Sapphire Nitro RX480. It has a power connector on that side too. It was very easy for me to hide the ketchup and mustard power cable when I had a cheap power supply and a case with lots of drive bay. Now I'm still using this card, but with a modern case and better power supply. Still looks great tho.
Ahh, my required dosage of Dawid Does Tech Stuff. However, such an anticlimax (not really), I was all set with popcorn and mead to see how they made a GT450 imitate an AMD card - damn :) I suspect the metal cheese is pyrolysis from the sweat shop (or opium den) where the card was birthed. You’ll need a full body suit soon. Another great video - thanks!
People say GPU prices are dying down but I beg to differ, I couldn't find any AMD cards above the 6800 (non XT) below 800 bucks, same for RTX 3070+. Literally the only hope is to try and get a card off of eBay and hope it isn't a scam.
@@RichardMontgomeryYT there's plenty on eBay, auctions tend to go about £30-40 cheaper than the buy it now listings. I also got one off of Facebook marketplace for £350 and the guy gave me a free 650w PSU!
I got a used Asus ROG Strix one for 210 recently. The seller moded the cooling because Asus F'ed up the VRM contacting. Pretty good deal cost to performance wise. Can't even get a 2070 for less than 300 bucks.
I love how Dawid always manages to sneak at least one tongue-in-cheek line into his sponsored part, like in this instance the "obvious hello e-peen" and very sarcastically sounding "12 ultra-bright capellix RGB LEDs", lol.
I've received my RX5700 XT yesterday from that exact same seller and packaging. When i saw it on Ali, it cost slightly less than yours and since it was a nobrainer i've pulled the trigger for my second rig. After 2 mins of inspection turns out to be a refurbished XFX 5700 XT THICC II withouth the chromed plastics. Heck there was still the original XfX sticker on the fans under the JieShuo one.... I guess yours might have new cooler and backplate, and the same hard mining past as mine. Still can't complain with the price, turns out to be ok as long as it comes back to what it's supposed to be for, GAMING 🤘Cheers from Italy!!!
Dawid Does Tech Stuff : you know what's funny....? That the RX 5700 XT 8GB beats the RTX 2080 8GB Super in Battlefield V which is an Nvidia raytracing 2018 launch title. The irony is surely keeping Jensen awake at night....still :).
You should try the Rx 6600m dawid, it's literally a laptop gpu that they soldered to a PCB and heatsink, it's a surprising good deal with the performance, I recommend you buying on either 51risc or huananzhi, they are legit brands on AliExpress
@@100500daniel Yeah that was with the laptop RTX 3060 in a desktop PCB, which worked quite well and had only 75W power draw.....but it only accepted some janky modded driver from aliexpress....none of the official nvidia drivers worked, sadly.
I just got the RX6600M conversion from the same company - delivered within 2 weeks! Works as it should. Well Packaged and in great condition. No damage, no loose screws did I mention works as it should! 😲 Seems to be upside down, but WORKS AS IT SHOULD! 😲
I'd buy that for a dollar! Robocop reference aside, that seems like a good card. I might finally give up my rx 480 8gb for something like it. Great video with great music. Thanks to you sir.
The sponsored memory kit is nearly $700 which is basically a scam. You can get a G.Skill Trident kit with 6000MHz CL36 and with acceptable timings for around $185.
I bought a RX 5700 (non-XT) with the reference cooler right when the RX 5000-series came out, and while there were some initial driver issues, long-term it feels like I absolutely made the right call. Maybe I got lucky, but can't say I've noticed any coil whine outside of edge cases where the GPU is accidentally allowed to shoot to 600+ FPS in a menu or something, and I can't ever recall the reference cooler going full hair-dryer on me trying to keep cool (maybe due to power draw being backed off a bit relative to the XT?). Cooler is a true two-slot design too, so it doesn't chew up all the expansion slots, and I like the reserved, professional-looking design of the non-XT blower. Three years in and an upgrade to 1440p later it's still going so strong it's really hard to justify an upgrade.
It looks a lot like an OEM card, maybe they are being rebadged and sold off. Also one thing to watch out for with 5700xt's is that they were the most popular card for mining, there must be a huge supply of ex-mined cards out in the wild now.
they WERE very good on ETH mining and ETH changed to be un mineable there is a full fledged business in CHINA to buy dead / return stock and remove the chips and build a NEW card and fit the "old" / salvage processor to the wholly NEW card LOTS of ex server CPU based motherboards like X79 / X99 available CHEAP with a "matching" processor and the previously bought 3060 laptop based desktop GPU
These 5000 series AMD cards are refurb cards and they had been data mined hard, there r plenty of refurb data mined cards in China ecommerce platform like Taobao or Pingduoduo, and some of these card sellers even offer 2-year warranty (not AIB/AIC warranty, replace only).
Mining actually could do less damage to a gpu. They often undervolt and underclock to get better efficiency at lower temps so as to not abuse their bank of gpus. Gaming actually could be harder on a card as you spike temps higher and harder then it's not in use then back to full power. That is bad for a gpu, certainly isn't good to have such drastic changes in voltages and temps.
Actually wish with all the giant GPUs these day more of them have the power connector at the front and not middle, makes the cable management so much better looking
Hey Big D. I wish you would have looked at what the Radeon software reported the metrics to be. The inconsistencies with MSI/RTSS and some AMD cards drove me away. I used it on a 6900 XT and the values would change between runs with the same game one time to the next. In RDR2 using built in benchmark, power use: run 1 58w run 2 181w run 3 138w all from a cold boot of the system. Love the Aliexpress vids, reminds me why I stopped buying from there.
Damn, this seems like a really good price for a brand new 5700xt. However, I got an open-box msi rtx 3060 for only $210 recently and I think that was an even better deal.
@@Stand00 It's a mismatched io shield and the memory modules look like they've been either reballed or overheated. It's also clearly running a weird vBios as can be seen from the power draw. We got so used to shitty prices that it seems like a great deal, but i'd just buy a 6600 brand new over this.
I bought a msi 5700xt gaming x, used, a month and a half ago from Mercari for 150$ Amazing value for an awesome purchase Upgraded from a 1070 So, very happy
I liked it better when there were GPUs with power on the front of the card. The overall build quality for this card was pretty solid considering where it came from
My 5700xt is still serving me well, ive almost had it for 3 years at this point. It was originally supposed to be replaced with a 6800xt in late 2020 but that didnt happen for obvious reasons
As per usual an absolute amazing video from one of the most Blazae youtubers about lol and I mean that in a good way. Love the video style you bring Dawid and you really should have double the amount of viewers ypu actually have.keep them coming my friend
Hey Dawid! Always cool to see your uploads! I love seeing a fellow South African making it successfully in another country! Plus the few SA reverences are always epic. I have been watching your videos for a long time! They are always entertaining. Your sense of humour is always cool. That said - and you can almost hear the cringe moment approaching. There is so much to poke fun at!!! You always seem to find something Jeremy Clarkson-ish and you pull it off. But like I said - here it comes. As a recovered thyroid cancer survivor and someone super selfconscious of my appearance after the thyroidectomy... It seems you can do better than compere a GPU do an person with a thyroid problem. I think you are much better than that - that said thank you for your entertaining content. Keep it lekker. Later bro
Some years ago it was sketchy, when i started to buy there, around 2015, it was like... "buy something cheap and forget... it will probably arrive someday...eventually...", but today we have solid options with quite trustworthy sellers, it is still more risky than buy on your own country with all consumers protections of course, but i have a surprisingly good story with Aliexpress-bought hardware... I have a RX580 2048SP 8GB from that same seller, it works perfectly, i use for scientific applications running at 100% 24/7, it keeps around 67ºC even when ambient temps are around 33ºC, AMD driver works perfectly. I also bought around 8 DDR4 and DDR2 ram sticks from various sellers, all worked fine, with just one exception. I bought from a very cheap seller that i previously bought and worked fine, the stick was fully functioning but it wouldnt work together with a specific CPU(Ryzen 3 4100), worked just fine with all other motherboards and cpus combinations tested.
1:43 Ouch!, I think you bent the shield when you pulled it through the packaging tube, ie, the protruding lugs hooked the plastic as it went through the tight packing.
@file manager Probably the former. Some of these weird Chinese GPUs report 0 power draw and 0 fan speed and 0 frequency on MSI Afterburner sometimes lol.
I got my rx 5700xt from the same seller at aliexpress and it was a used xfx model with jie shuo sticker on the fan. It's running perfectly and I got it at a really good price.
I bot a RX5500XT from the same Aliexpress vendor for $103 total cost (US) and its not far behind the RX5700XT you bot. Good video . The 51RISC company is selling the same cards and at the same prices. I got mine in 3 weeks, a week earlier than they said it would arrive. They are nothing cutting edge but they work and for cheap. That is what I was looking for.
No, the power draw numbers aren't lying. You're looking at a more binned 5700 XT chip on the Aliexpress card compared to the reference one. And don't forget, some manufacturers can tweak the voltage too. If the VBIOS that is on the Aliexpress card is using a lower voltage curve, that'd perfectly explain the lower power draw. You should try taking a look at the voltage readings too if possible. Some VBIOS can and will make a difference in the overall power draw.
There was a 5700 batch series that used a 125w TDP during the first months in Asian countries. Due to the cost of mosfets used they were able to significantly lower the cost of the card at a minimal cost to performance ratio.
i’m actually pretty impressed with this ali express card, connectors on the side are also a nice touch
You should try using a wall socket power meter and run the PC via that to see what the overall consumption is with either card to see if there is a clear difference. Could come in handy for future videos too and they're cheap
@gustavgamer5824waifu cases > wattmeter
Never realized he didn't have one! There's multiple videos on his channel that deal with power usage directly.
@Gustav Gamer He doesn't even have a overview graph of the different cards he's reviewed lol
It's proper amateur hour here, luckily he covers some interesting stuff...
If that's a refurbished mining card as I think, the low power draw could be related to a modded gpu bios. Would be interesting to find that out
@@kristoffer3000 Honestly it would be nice, but the channel has an overall charm to it that makes me forget he's running the channel like a middle schooler that's starting his TH-cam career. Maybe that is the charm, idk...
Those connector on the back of the card are low key genius! Imagine for a second all the connectors for mobo’s and gpu’s on the back of the pcb and you just plugged them in from holes in the back of the case and never saw any wires at all.
Also I think that if you had downward facing connecters on the heatsink side of the card it would also be pretty cool no?
@@captainslow_037 That would be fine for most people, but would interfere with any secondary pcie devices.
I mean Gigabyte is doing this with its Project Stealth stuff.
@@pearce05 yea but most pci devices aren't as long as GPUs now
You have to remember that these GPUs and their form factor are mainly decided by the largest customers to install them, and that's the large brand builders and system integrators.
The DIY consumer market is tiny in comparison.
6:30 that actually makes sense if they want to do a low profile stealthy variant. The cable goes straight towards the cable management slots.
240CAD for a card that rivals a 3060 in performance is a hell of a deal!
Keep in mind tho this card does not have HW-Raytracing, Variable Rate Shading, Mesh Shading and Sampler Feedback. It also cannot accelerate INT8. This means it will age very badly compared to RTX 2000 and 3000 series in upcoming titles that do not release on old consoles.
Its a bit of an indictment of the 3060 pricing as well , this + the newer rx6600 are definitely the goto for price/performance
it is in fact 15-20% faster than 3060 😂
@@dampflokfreund Don't get me wrong but remember that are people in this world who don't really care about those features, specially HW-RT.
And this is coming from someone who had an nvidia card with good rt capabilities and went back to amd, each to their own.
@@Anthonymvpr Developers care though. If you don't have HW-support for these features, it's going to get rough once cross gen is finally over (the reason why games are still running well on RDNA1 is because developers are still programming for the old generation of consoles without these features) UE5 might be saving it a little, as it does some of these things well in software, but not every game will run on UE5 and UE5.1 does implement some features like mesh shading, boosting performance. Just imagine it like Kepler doing DX12, but it will be much worse.
It's potentially possible the card isn't lying about the Wattage if it is essentially factory undervolted. I can bring my card's power draw down by 20-35% without losing performance by undervolting. That said I'm guessing it's still off by at least 25% or so. Would love to see you do more overclocking and undervolting when you test cards!
That's exactly what I was thinking. And in fact, it's not really off by much if you do the math.
Regular TDP ≈ 185W
Undervolted TDP ≈ 130W
180W › 100%
130W › X%
X% = 130×100/185 ≈ 70.3%
Overall, it's well in line with usual undervolting practices, especially that it's an AliExpress card that has almost certainly been involved in crypto mining.
@@SierraAAM I read the 4090 can be undervolted down to 70%-ish and only lose around 3% performance, so that would be pretty similar to the numbers you stated. To me, this is just a major win over the reference design, imagine how much less heat that thing is putting out for practically identical performance.
5700xt were very popular mining cards, which this card might be, there was a BIOS mod which reduced the power draw to make it efficient.
my 5700 xt does well with an undervolt. i just use the radeon auto setting. It doesn't increase fps but it usually improves my lows from 30 to 60 fps.
@@danonsgard4616 Same. I undervolted the core at max boost to 1089 mV and it only draws 120W when boosting.
I just picked up a 6600 a couple weeks ago for $220, extremely happy with it. The Swft 210 model, my card is also noisy at full tilt but not terribly. The fans don't even run while doing basic tasks like net surfing, email, etc.
I have the same card, you gotta set a fan curve and it runs super quiet while staying cool
ANNNDDD?? WHO CARES!!
@@franciscooteiza that's not a nice thing to say :(
@@franciscooteiza clearly, you.
why would gpu fans spin up to check an email?
I get very strong "repurposed mining card manufacturing" vibes off of this card. Mismatching faceplate because it was never meant to have one, downward facing power connectors because they aren't going to be slotted directly into a board anyway, factory undervolted bios resulting in lower power consumption and slightly lower performance. Makes sense they would be repurposing their stock back into gaming GPUs.
i agree but is that a bad thing?
@@ByVRM20 definitely not bad, but it could be a big gamble.
i fetched one of them MLLSE 5700XT not too long ago, and i've been pleasantly satisfied with it's performance, coming from a 1650Super, hopefully it lasts for many years
I think a lot of these cards that tend to pop up on Ali Express from little known brands/sellers have possibly been used in mining rigs etc in the past. They then get pimped up a bit with new coolers and backplates and sold on as a new product.. (this explains some of the shoddy workmanship and non retail boxes) - would also explain the under volting that appears to be going on with a lot of these cards as well as miners usually under volt them - can't prove it though - just a theory! :)
While you're right that some of the cards they sell are ex-mining cards, that's not all of them. Many others are simply mobile GPUs. They put them on PCBs, give them coolers, package them, and sell them. That's why they're cheaper and has lower power draw. The workmanship looks shoddy because, well, you're not supposed to put a shroud on a mobile GPU. Ditto with the boxes.
@@marioprawirosudiro7301 good shout Mario! - i've seen a few 'repackaged' mobile GPU examples as well! LOL! :)
It's not a secret, they say it in the description that these are ex mining cards
@@mehdiahmed7836 lol not all of them say it - that’s clearly the point! 🤦♂️
@@cerberus_uwu @@paullynch6977 maybe but at that point it's obvious and unless they explicitly say the card is 100% new you can safely assume it's been mined with or just ask the seller,you made it seem as though you're uncovering some revelation or underground mystery 😆
Hilarious that you reviewed this now - I ordered this exact card a few weeks back on sale for a hair under $200CAD ($150USD) shipped. I looked for reviews, but couldn't find any reputable ones.
It arrived a couple of days ago, and I've spent 2-3hrs messing around with it, here's my experience.
-They actually upgraded me from the 2 fan to the 3 fan version, since the 2 fan was out of stock.
-Build quality and overall impressions were similar to those in the video; fairly chintzy, but totally functional.
-Card had a super annoying death rattle when under load initially. Took a closer look, and it seemed the shroud was loose. Tightened all the screws, and it seems to have disappeared. Quality control definitely isn't ideal for a brand new card, but what can you expect at the price?
-Stupid loud at stock settings for sure. Ran very cool (approx. 60C,) so definitely needs a custom fan curve/speed set.
-Undervolted all the way down from 1.2 to 1V. Only dropped core 50MHz, and raised memory 60MHz. Set a custom fan curve. After all of these changes, the card runs at acceptable volume, while still having similar temps and performance, and much lower power consumption.
Overall, I'm stoked for this card! Basically 6600XT performance for 6500XT price. Corners were definitely cut, but nothing that can't be worked around/lived with. We'll see how it holds up long term, though.
Just a heads-up, these are NOT new cards. The rebadged brand "Jieshuo", or whatever it's called, repurposes and refurbishes used mining cards.
Does it still run well?
@@LastGoku yeah, I still love it!
@@Gabu_ yeah, that was kinda what I suspected going in.
@@jasonandrews7355 amazing
I can't tell if the dent in the reference card is supposed to be there or not, which really goes to show what a good-looking card it is
"I remember this reference cooler howling like a banshee with its tail stuck in the door" Dawid never fails to make me laugh. Keep up the quality content man this was a great video.
I had a Banshee...it was really quiet. No "Voodoo" involved...it just had no fans.
i love the boat rations
ive 5700XT reference, and that original cooler is quiet
@@wuuduu609 is now.. it was a freaking jet engine on release
I have an RX580 from the same brand. Albeit I bought it 2 months used, it still works perfectly and stays below 80c while playing Minecraft on high with complementary shaders at 1080p 60+ fps.
what the hell is mc
@@TheFalseShepphard oops my bad
I meant Minecraft
Is bellow 72-78 ok temp if im running something like rdr2 for example? Got same card and I am afraid of heat being too much
@@mrpickles7211that's perfectly fine
You know its a good day when Dawid uploads
Nah, its the BEST day.
You know it’s Wednesday or Saturday when dawid uploads 😎
Yup. One of the few youtubers I really enjoy watching.. he doesn't take himself too seriously
erm actually it's not a good day because today is the 15 year anniversary of my father leaving me?
@@jnyc96 you know it's a day when dawid uploads
You only need to cool the MOSFETs, memory and GPU. The board is designed to take tons of heat as well. So you don't need to worry if some of the ICs don't touch the cooler
I had a 3700X/5700XT combo, I loved it - The integration was wonderful. The only thing that let me down was the Dell computer around those parts. I miss the AMD software, I feel the presentation is better than Nvidia's GeForce experience and it didn't cause as many problems. It wasn't as efficient, NVEC is definitely a more mature technology, but it worked well enough. I'm glad AMD is doing so well, they aren't just competition - they're good competition.
You should measure power draw at the wall, it's possible that this is some kind of mobile variant clamped on standard pcb
I was hoping Dawid would rub the thermal paste off of the GPU die so we could see what it said.
The 5700 XT is still a solid card. My nephew has a 5500 XT and it still rocks too
I have a 5500xt 8gb from asrock. It's alright and I got it used for 115 dollars
@@RichardMontgomeryYT that's a good deal!
@@mlthmp shitty card tho
5700xt is more than enough for 1080. Got somewhere a 1080ti, which is basically the same card ( maybe a tad stronger) and a 2080 s laying around, gotta say both are still amazing for 1080. Used the 1080ti actually for a lot of 1080p titles and all ran 100+ fps
@@TheFalseShepphard why do you say that? His 5500 XT still runs everything pretty well
I have no idea what this man's upload schedule is but it's always right on time
It still blows me away that the market got so screwed up. I bought a reference rx5700 for £250 three years ago (new) and I could still realistically ask for £180 for it even though it's now 2 generations old.
Don't get me wrong, it's a great card and I have no plans to get rid of it but pricing is still over where it should be imo
Corsair makes good RAM but the size of those heat spreaders could prove problematic with larger CPU air coolers, e.g. be Quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4. I hope they consider a less height-y version soon!
Can confirm the 5700xt performs pretty close with an rtx 3060. Have a cyberpower pc with an i5-11600kf with an rtx 3060. And recently I bought one of those miniforum mini pcs (B550 one with external GPU dock), picked up a used sapphire 5700xt for $150, and it actually tests about 1k points higher on 3dmark, go figure (the minipc has a ryzen 5700g so i guess it's no that surprising, but its still kind of funny.
How much was the GPU dock?
In overall 5700xt > 3060.
I had the same pre-build cyber power I think. Bought it in 2021. Was really happy with it. Anyways I upgraded it last month with new RAM, PSU, cooler and a 6950 xt.
I still have my 3060 12gb evga. Loved the card but ya making the jump to AMD though, been wonderful.
Will be replacing my cpu next with a Ryzen. Just to go full team red.
Judging from the oil bleed, it is most likely a repurposed ex-mining card with a custom vBIOS. It's probably undervolted for better running cost hence the lower temperature/power usage.
It's not oil bleed, it's leftover flux from soldering. These cards are brand new, but have cosmetic damages that would've made them unfit for sale. These Ali stores buy factory refuse cards for cheaper, slap on their own custom shrouds/coolers and resell.
You seem to have found a very good deal there! I just had to upgrade to an RX 6700 XT 12GB and am extremely pleased with it, except for the price I had to pay courtesy of a dead RX 580 8GB. It runs Horizon Zero Dawn at 1080p60 on a mix of high and ultra settings without ever dropping below 60fps.
I bought a 5700 a few months ago to upgrade my htpc. Listing was for a 5700 xt and it was not an xt model but the performance was still good enough for the price I paid that I didn't really complain about it too much. Still absolutely a nice gpu and an excellent value buying used these days.
just flash dat bitch to a xt bios and you gain 10-15% more performance for free
I would guess that the card is made from low-binned GPU silicon so it's been slightly underclocked to get it running stable, and that's why it's using less power and why it's cheap. Seems like a great deal tbh.
Hi Dawid if you're a fan of coil whine and blower style GPUs with 2 x 8 pin connectors at the front of the card, go find yourself a Gigabyte RTX 3080 turbo 10GB and do a video on that. I just got rid of mine after many years of enduring high temps and screaming noise from the card. The cards ran so hot I ended getting an 80mm Noctua fan and zip tied it to the front intake of the card which dropped temps by about 10 degrees, and fan speed by 30%. Love your videos, your sense of humour is right up my alley.
I recognized that packaging immediately! -From AliExpress but also from Gamestop... They packaged their used consoles in them.
That unboxing was like a tech version of pass the parcel. If you’ve ever bought a graphics card that slid into the case with no room at the back as it was touching the fan shroud, you’ll be glad that it had the power connectors on the top and not on the back.
That loose screwhead made me shiver thinking of scenarios where the buyer doesn't check, and it inevitably causes a short after it ends up lodged somewhere it shouldn't.
not an issue
Fully agree with the front placement of power delivery, the fact no big brands do it is really disappointing.
So it’s an OEM model 5700XT with a nice cooler on top. Honestly not a bad find even after the taxes and shipping applied, it’s still one beast of a card
It’s a Chinese refurbished card, used memory and gpu on new board. No one knows how long it could last
Mining GPU salvaged on new board with bad coil whine....uhm no good deal
That's a pretty great deal honestly. I upgraded my gpu to a 5700 xt I got on sale literally like, a month before the gpupocalypse hit, and it's been fantastic for my 1080p high refresh rate setup.
How is it still faring with you?
I am actually impressed with this.... You got a bargain there... I was just waiting for it to turn into an RX260x on GPUz etc but it appears it is actually a proper 5700xt.... fair play to the seller, their website looks legit as well...
Packaging was pretty good too actually.
i mean the Rx5700xt is a old card ... of course they can sell now new (old) cards instead of ancient cards.
I bought my RX 5700 (Reference) Several Years ago. I bios modded it with the XT bios, and just recently got ahold of a water cooler for it. It runs everything I throw at it amazingly at 1440p 144hz medium to high settings. I only recent thought of upgrading so I can delegate it to Handbrake conversions in my server lmao.
I liked the 5700XT but I sold it at the height of the crypto boom for $900, I recently bought a 5700 on Ebay for $125 that I like .
I have a Sapphire Nitro RX480. It has a power connector on that side too. It was very easy for me to hide the ketchup and mustard power cable when I had a cheap power supply and a case with lots of drive bay. Now I'm still using this card, but with a modern case and better power supply. Still looks great tho.
Ahh, my required dosage of Dawid Does Tech Stuff. However, such an anticlimax (not really), I was all set with popcorn and mead to see how they made a GT450 imitate an AMD card - damn :)
I suspect the metal cheese is pyrolysis from the sweat shop (or opium den) where the card was birthed. You’ll need a full body suit soon. Another great video - thanks!
I've been eyeing those AliExpress cards for a while lmao. Glad you make videos about them.
People say GPU prices are dying down but I beg to differ, I couldn't find any AMD cards above the 6800 (non XT) below 800 bucks, same for RTX 3070+. Literally the only hope is to try and get a card off of eBay and hope it isn't a scam.
that's weird, recently I got a 3070 for £350.
@@yotoprules9361 everywhere on PCPartPicker it's like 600-700 bucks... even at Microcenter they're like 600
@@dragontales1999 3060 ti is the cheapest thing i can find at like £330 second hand
@@yotoprules9361 how I cantfind anything worth it. A few months ago there was a new 6700xt for 330 though. Couldn't afford it at the time sadly.
@@RichardMontgomeryYT there's plenty on eBay, auctions tend to go about £30-40 cheaper than the buy it now listings. I also got one off of Facebook marketplace for £350 and the guy gave me a free 650w PSU!
I feel the overwhelming urge to pop some bubble wrap bubbles now.
I got a used Asus ROG Strix one for 210 recently. The seller moded the cooling because Asus F'ed up the VRM contacting. Pretty good deal cost to performance wise. Can't even get a 2070 for less than 300 bucks.
I love how Dawid always manages to sneak at least one tongue-in-cheek line into his sponsored part, like in this instance the "obvious hello e-peen" and very sarcastically sounding "12 ultra-bright capellix RGB LEDs", lol.
I'm not a big tech junkie, but I enjoy the hell out of Dawids videos, maybe a little short, but keep making them and I'll keep watching.
I've received my RX5700 XT yesterday from that exact same seller and packaging. When i saw it on Ali, it cost slightly less than yours and since it was a nobrainer i've pulled the trigger for my second rig. After 2 mins of inspection turns out to be a refurbished XFX 5700 XT THICC II withouth the chromed plastics. Heck there was still the original XfX sticker on the fans under the JieShuo one.... I guess yours might have new cooler and backplate, and the same hard mining past as mine. Still can't complain with the price, turns out to be ok as long as it comes back to what it's supposed to be for, GAMING 🤘Cheers from Italy!!!
I love the 5700xt its still a beast of a card
I've been waiting for someone to review one of these. Good stuff Dawid
I like this kind of Videos soooo much and generally your Videos are sooo amazing! Keep the good work up! 👍
Dawid Does Tech Stuff : you know what's funny....? That the RX 5700 XT 8GB beats the RTX 2080 8GB Super in Battlefield V which is an Nvidia raytracing 2018 launch title. The irony is surely keeping Jensen awake at night....still :).
You should try the Rx 6600m dawid, it's literally a laptop gpu that they soldered to a PCB and heatsink, it's a surprising good deal with the performance, I recommend you buying on either 51risc or huananzhi, they are legit brands on AliExpress
He already tried I think
Can it use the official drivers?
@@miked5444yes
Is 51Risc an actually trustworthy brand??
@@100500daniel Yeah that was with the laptop RTX 3060 in a desktop PCB, which worked quite well and had only 75W power draw.....but it only accepted some janky modded driver from aliexpress....none of the official nvidia drivers worked, sadly.
I just got the RX6600M conversion from the same company - delivered within 2 weeks!
Works as it should. Well Packaged and in great condition. No damage, no loose screws did I mention works as it should! 😲
Seems to be upside down, but WORKS AS IT SHOULD! 😲
I'd buy that for a dollar! Robocop reference aside, that seems like a good card. I might finally give up my rx 480 8gb for something like it. Great video with great music. Thanks to you sir.
COME QUIETLY OR THERE WILL BE TROUBLE
I bought a 580 8gb for $70 usd of Aliexpress for a friends build, I am excited to get it!
That is 100% a "renewed" mining card.
The sponsored memory kit is nearly $700 which is basically a scam. You can get a G.Skill Trident kit with 6000MHz CL36 and with acceptable timings for around $185.
1:54 you damaged it
I bought a RX 5700 (non-XT) with the reference cooler right when the RX 5000-series came out, and while there were some initial driver issues, long-term it feels like I absolutely made the right call.
Maybe I got lucky, but can't say I've noticed any coil whine outside of edge cases where the GPU is accidentally allowed to shoot to 600+ FPS in a menu or something, and I can't ever recall the reference cooler going full hair-dryer on me trying to keep cool (maybe due to power draw being backed off a bit relative to the XT?). Cooler is a true two-slot design too, so it doesn't chew up all the expansion slots, and I like the reserved, professional-looking design of the non-XT blower.
Three years in and an upgrade to 1440p later it's still going so strong it's really hard to justify an upgrade.
hello dawid try the mingzhou rx 580 8gb from aliex for 70$ and 18k was sold you need to try it
THe red bubble wrap coming out reminded me of that bit when Ace Ventura comes out of the Rhino....
It looks a lot like an OEM card, maybe they are being rebadged and sold off. Also one thing to watch out for with 5700xt's is that they were the most popular card for mining, there must be a huge supply of ex-mined cards out in the wild now.
they WERE very good on ETH mining and ETH changed to be un mineable
there is a full fledged business in CHINA to buy dead / return stock and remove the chips and build a NEW card and fit the "old" / salvage processor to the wholly NEW card
LOTS of ex server CPU based motherboards like X79 / X99 available CHEAP with a "matching" processor and the previously bought 3060 laptop based desktop GPU
These 5000 series AMD cards are refurb cards and they had been data mined hard, there r plenty of refurb data mined cards in China ecommerce platform like Taobao or Pingduoduo, and some of these card sellers even offer 2-year warranty (not AIB/AIC warranty, replace only).
Mining actually could do less damage to a gpu. They often undervolt and underclock to get better efficiency at lower temps so as to not abuse their bank of gpus. Gaming actually could be harder on a card as you spike temps higher and harder then it's not in use then back to full power. That is bad for a gpu, certainly isn't good to have such drastic changes in voltages and temps.
Actually wish with all the giant GPUs these day more of them have the power connector at the front and not middle, makes the cable management so much better looking
Hey Big D. I wish you would have looked at what the Radeon software reported the metrics to be. The inconsistencies with MSI/RTSS and some AMD cards drove me away. I used it on a 6900 XT and the values would change between runs with the same game one time to the next. In RDR2 using built in benchmark, power use: run 1 58w run 2 181w run 3 138w all from a cold boot of the system. Love the Aliexpress vids, reminds me why I stopped buying from there.
Battlefield V at 200 fps it is a monster for the price
Damn, this seems like a really good price for a brand new 5700xt. However, I got an open-box msi rtx 3060 for only $210 recently and I think that was an even better deal.
That card is not brand new. Probably been mined on for two years even.
@@kajurn791 if it works, it works. I'm pretty sure LTT have proved that ex mining cards don't have any detriments
@@Stand00 It's a mismatched io shield and the memory modules look like they've been either reballed or overheated. It's also clearly running a weird vBios as can be seen from the power draw. We got so used to shitty prices that it seems like a great deal, but i'd just buy a 6600 brand new over this.
@@kajurn791 Yeah, I deleted my reply because I thought you were reffering to my 3060.
@@Stand00 Ah that's fine, sorry if i wasn't very clear which card i meant. I do think your 3060 was a good deal.
I bough the regular 5700 not to long after release and still use it to this day, it's still a very capable card
The 5700 and 5700xt are such great cards.
I bought a msi 5700xt gaming x, used, a month and a half ago from Mercari for 150$
Amazing value for an awesome purchase
Upgraded from a 1070
So, very happy
I liked it better when there were GPUs with power on the front of the card. The overall build quality for this card was pretty solid considering where it came from
It was you who bent the io shield when you pulled it through the plastic wrap 😂
You can see from the way you pull it out on camera
I mean, it wasn’t screwed down. So that definitely didn’t help. 😂
@@DawidDoesTechStuff Hey Dawid, You're Definitely right there - It's not exactly high end!
New around here, enjoy the content men :)
Who won the pc?
who did win it?
That's wat I'm trying to figure out
@@bruhhub4203 let’s do it together!
Ok sure
Could you imagine if it was like a one time viewer who’s never coming back and never sees this vid and comment
My 5700xt is still serving me well, ive almost had it for 3 years at this point. It was originally supposed to be replaced with a 6800xt in late 2020 but that didnt happen for obvious reasons
It's so nice that graphics cards are back into the real of reality! Much to Nvidia's chagrin 😅
As per usual an absolute amazing video from one of the most Blazae youtubers about lol and I mean that in a good way. Love the video style you bring Dawid and you really should have double the amount of viewers ypu actually have.keep them coming my friend
I am so proud that last week i did a video on my YT channel about the same GPU at the same price..... only i chose the trio version
Hey Dawid!
Always cool to see your uploads! I love seeing a fellow South African making it successfully in another country! Plus the few SA reverences are always epic.
I have been watching your videos for a long time! They are always entertaining.
Your sense of humour is always cool. That said - and you can almost hear the cringe moment approaching. There is so much to poke fun at!!! You always seem to find something Jeremy Clarkson-ish and you pull it off.
But like I said - here it comes. As a recovered thyroid cancer survivor and someone super selfconscious of my appearance after the thyroidectomy... It seems you can do better than compere a GPU do an person with a thyroid problem.
I think you are much better than that - that said thank you for your entertaining content.
Keep it lekker.
Later bro
this reassured me that this seller won't scam me because i will be buying from them
Aliepress sounds like an awesome new site to order from that isn't at all sketchy
Its sketchy, but still have lots of nice deals.
1:45 wow we witnessed the packaged thing give birth to another packaged thing... it´s great to be alive.
Goddamn! That reference RX5700XT is one sexy looking card.
7:16 after looking to the games you're playing, you have my full respect.
Some years ago it was sketchy, when i started to buy there, around 2015, it was like... "buy something cheap and forget... it will probably arrive someday...eventually...", but today we have solid options with quite trustworthy sellers, it is still more risky than buy on your own country with all consumers protections of course, but i have a surprisingly good story with Aliexpress-bought hardware... I have a RX580 2048SP 8GB from that same seller, it works perfectly, i use for scientific applications running at 100% 24/7, it keeps around 67ºC even when ambient temps are around 33ºC, AMD driver works perfectly. I also bought around 8 DDR4 and DDR2 ram sticks from various sellers, all worked fine, with just one exception. I bought from a very cheap seller that i previously bought and worked fine, the stick was fully functioning but it wouldnt work together with a specific CPU(Ryzen 3 4100), worked just fine with all other motherboards and cpus combinations tested.
I love the missing X in the title
Congratulations 🎊 to the giveaway winner and a new video LES GOOO!
No one knows who's won
@@bruhhub4203 Ofc it will be anonymous so it can not be "Stolen"
Could happen but alright
4:28 Doing the Shatner.
Pretty sure you bent the IO shield pulling it out of the plastic backwards
This is one of the best GPUs to buy used at the moment, I bought one from eBay for only 120.
1:43 Ouch!, I think you bent the shield when you pulled it through the packaging tube, ie, the protruding lugs hooked the plastic as it went through the tight packing.
You should have done a system power draw from the wall test to see if there is a 50 watt difference. just to be sure the discrepancy is accurate.
@file manager Probably the former. Some of these weird Chinese GPUs report 0 power draw and 0 fan speed and 0 frequency on MSI Afterburner sometimes lol.
I love your channel brother, i just watched you getting tazed by Anna LMAO. Also, You motivated me to build a PC.
I got my rx 5700xt from the same seller at aliexpress and it was a used xfx model with jie shuo sticker on the fan.
It's running perfectly and I got it at a really good price.
I bot a RX5500XT from the same Aliexpress vendor for $103 total cost (US) and its not far behind the RX5700XT you bot. Good video . The 51RISC company is selling the same cards and at the same prices. I got mine in 3 weeks, a week earlier than they said it would arrive. They are nothing cutting edge but they work and for cheap. That is what I was looking for.
I only liked this video bc of Dawids "wHOOOOOAuhhh" when undoing the fan clip
Dawid attempting to disconnect the fan connecter inside the gpu makes me sweat
Dawid becoming my fav entertaining tech pc channel.
No, the power draw numbers aren't lying. You're looking at a more binned 5700 XT chip on the Aliexpress card compared to the reference one.
And don't forget, some manufacturers can tweak the voltage too. If the VBIOS that is on the Aliexpress card is using a lower voltage curve, that'd perfectly explain the lower power draw. You should try taking a look at the voltage readings too if possible. Some VBIOS can and will make a difference in the overall power draw.
Maybe the Ali card has a special farming BIOS. Check the wall power draw.
Got a used XFX RX 5700XT for US$150 a month ago for my first ever build. Upgraded from a GT 940m laptop. 😆
I upgraded from GTX 860m laptop to 140W RTX 3060 laptop 2 months back. I was mind blown by the difference lmao.
Honey offers a huge rebate on Corsair RAM. got some for myself. great deal.
This is an RX5700 with overclocked ram it has less stream processors than XT version 2304 vs 2560 but i still ordered one.