you should look into this github paage i found by a guy named dylan raga. called windows hdr srgb to gamma 2.2 or something. I don't hear windows terrible tone mapping being talked about enough, and this fixes that.
@@drunkhusband6257 the heck are you on about? Contrast and max brightness plays a roles. Theres also dimming zones, back light alg and additional input lag (if youre not using oled)
One thing with the image that people dont seem to notice is the absolute uniforminity of the image, every single edge of the screen just displays content without any bleeding backlights, no contrast shifts. It's not really something you think much about until you see it live. I personally am spoiled by just how great the 100% screen image quality is. As for HDR, due to the contrast i think it looks significantly better than mini led. The only thing i liked about mini led was its peak sdr brightness, but bleeding that brightness into HDR(RTX and auto) kind of ruins the effect. ABL on the other hand can be a bother in some instances, but those were rare for me. Shit just blows me away, when the HDR really kicks in. Sime scenes in elden ring, the scenes with proper black levels, or the intro stage in gears 5 when your wakking through a pitch black cave and the brightness of your armors "hey im a friendly" just pop in ways they just cant in sdr.
MSI is going for 900-950 Alienware goes for 999(sometimes) Msi also sells one for 4k165hz for 800 rn (this is US pricing) Same panel for all of these as the Asus, don't scam yourself Also the MSI 27' 1440p360hz are 800 as well
Asus is like 1600-1700$ here in Europe in my region,either Msi or gigabyte 1200-1300 $Alienware is 1000$ for the same panel😂 I picked Aw its really good.
These are in high demand. The fact that he got the full warranty I'd say it's worth it. Although this doesn't change that I think this specific model is overpriced.
@@googlewolly A month ago people were on waiting lists for 32" 4k OLEDs. He didn't mention if stock was why he got his open box, but no doubt that was going to get snatched up quick.
130 bucks less, one of the best OLEDs, 3-year warranty still on it (let's assume Asus will honor it) and its only open box, meaning there's a high likelihood that the previous owner just opened it and return it for any reason besides the monitor itself? Yeah, 130 bucks is enough for the majority. I think that would only apply to LCDs since OLED monitors are in high demand.
The 3 big cons of OLED: 1. Expensive. 2. Burn-in risk. 3. Dimmer full screen brightness, might not look as nice as LCD in day time scenes depending on preference. Outside of the above, OLED is literally better in everything else.
I get the best of both worlds by having a decent 4k 32" monitor for productivity, and a 65" LG C4 as a secondary monitor. Works perfectly for the games I enjoy since I'm no longer super interested in competitive shooters and such. Helldivers 2, Alan Wake, Dead Space have all been a blast and looked amazing on the big screen. All the caveats are kind of expected when you're at the bleeding edge of tech. That being said I fully expect to get at least 5 years of life out of the C4 since my old 55" C7 lasted the same amount of time before it started to show burn in - and today's panels are much more resilient than before.
@@ThisisCitrus Nope. Rting and Hardware Unboxed are both conducting accelerated burn-in tests. They are still present. While Rtings focuses on TVs and often older models, Hardware Unboxed sees burn-in as quickly as 3 months of worse case scenario type stress test on more modern OLED monitors. It is still a risk and care still need to be taken if you want your OLED to last.
@@SashimiSteak Their tests prove its not an issue. They are running the display 24/7 on a static screen without using pixel cleaning and it took years of watch time for burn in to show. Its a non issue.
@@ThisisCitrusThe way I interpret it is if it happens at all, it is a risk. To have to adjust the way you use the screen to minimise that risk, it is still a con.
The biggest thing when looking for oled monitors is sales. All these monitors that are well over a $1000 are constantly on sale. The one I got which is a $1500 one I got on sale for $800 and at that price I think it's absolutely worth getting an OLED and I've even seen some OLEDs as low as just under $600
One aspect often overlooked in the LCD vs. OLED debate is the parallax effect that occurs near the edges of an LCD panel due to its polarization layer. While this issue is mainly noticeable on larger (32"+) flat panels, it can become quite irritating, especially if you use software with very thin or narrow scroll bars. OLEDs don't have this issue at all, next to the pure blacks and insane pixel response times, it's something that instantly stood out to me.
@engjds Bro just stop with nonsense, I've had an oled tv for 6 years no burn in. And a oled monitor for 2 years no burn in. Yes both will eventually go out like any electronic. Guess if your poor it's an issue , if you want the best a 6 or 7 years oled is perfect.
Every time I'm about to hit the purchase button on this monitor, I remember, "Oh yeah. My computer is 20 years old. I don't need to see my graphics card struggling in vivid clarity."
The problem with HDR is that the _games_ often don't implement it well - in fact sometimes games implement it really poorly. TH-cam channels like GamingTech do a lot of game testing and can tell you which games are worth playing in HDR and which can be skipped - and which will look good if you use the settings they found.
Windows also freaks out if you have more than one display in HDR mode. Moving windows to ither virtual desktop workspaces is just flat out broken on all but the main display. It’s such a headache I have decided it’s not worth turning on at all.
This is why you just use RTX HDR and why I wouldn't consider anything but Nvidia with these new panels. I effectively end up with "pretty well done hdr" on all games and all videos.
Any IPS has IPS glow, it's just a function of view point. Move yourself further or use longer focal length camera and it disappears. While bleed is manufacturing problem that doesn't change with viewing position.
Yeah, I would never go IPS again because of the glow. My current monitor is absolutely unusable without the lights and a lamp on or all i can see is the glow at the bottom left lol.
got my 1440p 240hz IPS for 280$ (koorui 27e3qk from amazon) a couple months ago, i aint complaining, cant go wrong with IPS at that price, OLED is such a big price jump, LCD is still best value by far.
I've gone from 1440p tn to 1440p OLED and it is amazing. I've used HDR twice in almost a year though. HDR... is impressive gimmick for now. There is no better SDR monitor than OLED.
i play on a 65" Samsung QN90A QLED......looks very close to OLED, brighter, and peace of mind that ten years from now there will still be no burn in on my expensive display. I can live with the little blooming I get from time to time.
Yeah 43 inch QN90B is working great. It's around 100ppi so text is nice and sharp sitting at the desk and I have a sofa close to it for use as a tv/gamepad games
Il say it straight if you work that much on your PC don't get oled that simple oled r made for mainly entertainment so gaming etc and casual browsing soif you mainly work on it for 8 hrs you will get get burn in with in a year because on the channel monitor unboxed he tried to use a oled monitor for work only so 8 hrs a day so after 3 months or so he all ready got signs of burn in so my guess before he hits 1 year he will get burn in since he uses the monitor for only work so in your case 8 to 10 hrs work is a no go so get a mini LED instead better for what you do until micro OLED comes but that's far away than it's no burn in risk
@@3borsresistance551 yes but it depends how much you work because Tim from monitor unboxed worked on his pc 8 hrs a day for 3 months and he got sign of burn in so you need to be specific because if you don't than your comment has 0 value because some work 3 some less some alot more so you need to be specific but my guess you don't work 8 hrs a day on your OLED if you did you would have signs of burn in all ready that simple since Tim all ready did a 3 months testing
One thing to note that a lot of people miss is that low fps content looks worse on OLED. If you’re in the 30fps range it almost looks like a shutter door since the frames are displayed so quickly, you lose that blur between frames that traditional led monitors produce. I have a hard time playing console titles or on switch in 30fps on my OLED’s even when using motion smoothing features. Just some food for thought.
If you're playing ANYTHING in the 30 fps range when you can afford an OLED monitor, your priorities are messed up and should probably have bought a better graphics card
@@mikaeo23 Yeah I’ll be sure to get a better graphics card for my Switch and PS5 exclusives 🤣 I play on all platforms and don’t limit myself to PC only. My comment is there to educate those who aren’t aware of those cons. I’d be willing to bet I have more experience with OLED and better hardware in my PC than you do.
For the longest time of my life I used PCs I somehow managed to scrap together that where barely running. But I had a great time with friends gaming hours on end. Now I have a 4000€ PC, that ASUS Monitor, VR Headset and so on but only like 5 hours per week to play … adulthood sucks sometimes lol. But when I’m using it I’m always blown away how far gaming tech has come.
love the trend that people move to TVs as monitors! (why place 25" monitors side by side when you can just place a 50" TV on the table, haha) There are little to no drawbacks imo since multiple screens and wider screens became the norm for gaming focused setups. I use my 50" TV often in 21:9 for games like Cyberpunk and it's just plain awesome^^
I think you should buy tv like 42"-48" LG c4. They are cheaper and 42"-48" is better suited for 4k resolution. 32" is super small for 4k. I have 48" LG c1 and it was best thing i have done.
@eduardomartindelcampo4555 Check out these: Gigabyte Aurus FO27Q3 MSI MPG 271QRX Alienware AW2725DF You can probably find one of them on sale, and all come well-reviewed by "Monitors Unboxed". *Warning*: when you see how good these look you might decide to buy a new graphics card (I did.)
@@eduardomartindelcampo4555 Check out these: Gigabyte Aurus FO27Q3 MSI MPG 271QRX Alienware AW2725DF You will probably find at least one of these on sale, and all are reviewed and recommended by "Monitors Unboxed". *WARNING*: After seeing how good these look, you might decide to buy a new graphics card (I did.)
Well yeah once you experience something better that what you're used to you will not want to go back. It's like switching from 720p square screen from 15 years ago to 4K UW this year, ain't no way someone's going back with that.
Depends on how much you value the image quality. I have an LG OLED and IPS panels side-by-side by I mainly use the IPS. I leave the OLED for movies and such. Doesn't really matter in most games, I don't play them for visuals anyways. And text looks sharper on 1440p ips compared to 4k OLED thanks to Microsoft not implementing cleartype for WRGB subpixel layout.
I only care about input lag, Response time, and FPS for Rocket League. I currently have a 280hz IPS LCD from asus abojt 3 years old. How drastic will it be to move to a 360hz 1440p OLED on rocket league?
@@signedupfordoconly4275 I have the 360hz oled, and I would say it's not much of a difference in RL (I play a ton of RL), but in other games like Overwatch, or Valorant, etc where you are whipping your mouse around and snapping on people you can definitely tell a difference.
@@signedupfordoconly4275 I switched from 144hz IPS to 240hz OLED and the difference is amazing. I've heard that the jump from 240hz to 360hz is small but definitely noticeable, but I think in your case the biggest improvement would be the switch to OLED. The quick response times of OLEDs have very little to do with input lag, its just how quickly a pixel can switch from one color to another. Faster response times result in better motion clarity, with less ghosting and motion blur. High refresh rate OLEDs feel so nice to game on because you can see everything clearly, even in fast motion. I will say the longer you can wait, the cheaper and better OLEDs will become. 280hz IPS is still a great monitor and I wouldn't really feel the need to upgrade to a $1000+ monitor right now unless you have the money to spend, and really care about the better motion clarity and contrast ratios.
After using First Gen qd oled, in terms of HDR, the problem is that 1000 nits mode, decreases average picture brightness by half when u reach specific scene brightness (it does it to keep that nit difference), making HDR 450 true black overall brighter minus highlights (as it doesn't dim nearly as much). Still if overall picture is super bright youre so close to it's 250 nits limit, that even SDR at around 100% will look the same. Monitor is just unable to make anything pop when overall scene is too bright. MLA WOLED is better for HDR now for like 1-15% highlights, but... there is no glossy finish which I grew to like. Keep that in mind folks. Can't wait for next gen WOLED but without matte finish, possibly 300 nits at fullscreen white.
I went with 3rd gen QD-OLED because I found the MLA WOLED to look washed out, the white subpixel just seems to wash out the colours unlike the quantum dots.
I bought the first round of 1440p 240hz OLEDs. They are overrated. Is it nice? Yes, but these TH-cam channels sold them like the second coming of christ and it is disingenuous. Hell, most game's implementation of HDR is ASS. Get a quality IPS for half the price.
After tax, I paid just shy of $2000 for my LG 40WP95C-W 40” UltraWide. I have ZERO regrets. I bought it for productivity with a macbook pro but it still has a 75hz refresh rate so it's got a smoother look and feel than any other 60hz screen. The screen itself though is absolutely incredible.
0:45 i know i have it but its still awesome , its 2 1440p oleds mashed together so you can game while having youtube or a guide on the side , but ive never used it this way cause i baby it scared of burn in but yet i know play one game so im making it vulnerable to burn in
That's why I went with a VA panel. Really high contrast, almost pitch black. No ghosting on my particular model at 240hz. It is 1080p but it was 1/10th of the price of this oled monitor. It's also more vibrant than the ips monitors I've used.
I’m coming from a 1080p 144hrtz monitor to a 32in 4k OLED 240hrtz this next week. Got a rtx 4090 and 7800x3d PC coming from a 2070 super. can’t wait :)
@@DerekMoore82 i did it i mean something similar went from 1650 super to 4080 super just work hard and i saved up for years and finally got the setup i wanted
@Paule9511 Why didn't I think of that? I'll just go out and start working for myself tomorrow and be rich, thanks for the advice! You should really tell more people, if everyone knew about this totally doable advice of yours, there would be no poor people, and we'd all work for ourselves! Of course... then we wouldn't have any employees... I guess we'll just have to keep this super convenient advice of yours a secret so we'll have some people left to work for us!
There is a significant difference between OLED monitors and TVs. Usually TVs are brighter and larger which again makes it seem even brighter. To me HDR is a HUGE selling point, and really does make a massive difference in movies and games. The colors, shadows and highlights just stand out so much.
1440p looks sharp on a 27" monitor, if 32" go for 4k would be better. Plus, it also depends on the quality of your 1440p monitor display like panel, color gamut, contrast, etc... Some 1440p IPS panel does comes with low contrast but some looks fine. Of course, it also depends on the "budget"...
@@strider029 👍 I found that those I mentioned above is ideal inches for different resolution, but not super bad. It is because I found that a lot of users said that 1080p is lousy, pixelated, blur, etc. End up they were talking about 27" 1080p😅😅 For 1080p, it looks sharp if go for 23.8" / 24". Same scenario for 27" 1440p and 32" 4k, ideal perception.
Any comment on the QD OLED panel washing out in bright environments? I can (and do) keep my room fairly dark, but how dark is dark enough? I don't wanna spend 1300 to find out, and looking at the screen in a brightly lit showroom probably won't help much.
what screen exactly? look on rtings and see how much brighter it'll be and then you can turn your current screen to the max and see if you got "brightness issues". (can't get bright enough to fight glare, blacks get elevated without darkening the room) If yes I'd say that it might not be the right choice. if you don't get the issue it's worth the try imo, especially if you get them somewhere with a good return policy.
It's noticeable to me in office environments. Wait for a second gen version to get a filter/coating on it to reduce that issue or go with an LG panel. But not those $500 1440p 27in panels. Those aren't very good. Sharpness leaves a lot to be desired. I got one and returned it almost immediately. Too blurry. If you're not in a bright environment then you're fine.
use mine during the day, you will be fine as long as you are not having direct light on the front of it, i even have my blinds completely open, while there is indeed slight black raise that happens, its nowhere near as bad as people make out to be, it could also be how my room is setup as well tho
My room is pretty bright, but unless I play really dark games or watch such movies (like horrors or sth) it's not noticeable at all. And the "washing out" apply only to blacks, because they get slight purple tint - other colors are untouched.
I've had the Alienware AW3423DW since 2022, paid approximately $1300 for it, and I can say with absolute certainty that it is definitely one of the most significant upgrades I've made, and HDR is no joke.
That side by side is huge. I’ve had an oled ultrawide but I’ve never done a side by side like that. Has made me wonder how much better it really is. Seeing it like this I feel validated. That’s side by side is a game changer.
@@LeadSails yeah the real frame gen is awesome and lossless scaling feels is garbage because with the input lag it doesnt even feel like real high frame rate
Personally the cost isn't my problem, my old monitor was $1500 on sale when I got it, it's the brightness. OLED looks great, but the brightness plummets with area of the screen used where over 20% is less than 500 nits and 30% goes into the 200s. My old monitor had FALD so it was already better than 99% of LCD displays so darks aren't that big a benefit. But my monitor was able to hit 1000 nits or 750 full screen. That's just so much more. For me the benefits of the OLED are more the motion clarity and the benefits of a glossy panel, which monitor makes seem allergic to for some reason.
Great video...A friend once tried to convince me to buy one of these, saying that "Eventually you'll need a 240hz 4K monitor as the graphics card technology catches up with higher 4K resolution gaming" but, my main argument is "Why would I buy that 4K high refresh rate OLED monitor right now at over $1,000?...Instead, why not just wait until the price on 200+hz 4K OLED monitors starts to come down once we can actually push the higher resolution graphics up to those 200 plus FPS numbers without having to lower settings to sacrificing the image quality just to reach those higher FPS numbers" :)
There’s a lot of games that i’m getting close to those numbers though, especially with tools such as DLSS 3 Frame Gen + Nvidia Reflex + Boost, and that doesn’t sacrifice image quality in any noticeable way, I personally couldn’t see a difference. For example I was getting like 170 fps in God of War: Ragnarok at 4K Ultra on the 4090. Also with the 5090 about to release in the next couple of months, that’ll take way more advantage of these monitors. Also it isn’t just the framerates but 240hz is nice to have in 4K. The main difference OLED makes is those true blacks and that contrast which is unmatchable.
i see all these oled fans justifying their purchase to themselves by hyping it up by calling it "worth it" ... tell me when it gets below 500 usd... it happened with 240hz ips monitors.
Jokes on you.... I like to have a crosshair from another game permanently burned in to my monitor so I don't have to worry about shitty crosshairs in other games /s
I got the LG 1440p 240hz W-OLED, open box for 800 in 2023, back when it was 1k. I am so glad I did, it's easily the best thing I ever did. Say, if you have a 3080/3070, and you were looking to upgrade your monitor to a 4070ti/4080... don't. Just get the monitor instead. Such an amazing upgrade. Clarity and color is just so good.
2:20 Correction, OLED is generally lit at a sub-pixel level, so a 4K TV might have over 8 million pixels, but it will have at least 24 million individually lit sub pixels, many TVs use multiple sub pixels of the same color to have better control over the brightness of each color so a 4K OLED with only ~8 million pixels, might have as many as 100 million OLEDs AKA individual dimming zones.
@@ozgurkuzu2202 They speak english because it is the only language they know. We speak english because it is the only language they know. The difference.
I bought the GLOSSY !!! 32" Dell AW3225QF. $899 on sale. Incredible. The best picture I have ever seen on my computer, and I have a 32" LG32GQ950 ATW Nano IPS too. Night and day. Love this Dell. The curve is SOOOO slight, you hardly notice it, but it also adds just a little something to games. Very happy. The M28105 Firmware fixes everything from Old reviews.
Fun fact for HDR video recording, if you record with the windows game bar, or take screenshots with it, it will save a SDR tone map version alongside the HDR version
Contrast is normally factory set at a default value and does not require an adjustment on modern monitors. If you adjust it in any direction, clipping happens and you get blown out whites and crushed blacks. If you don't know the default position, reset the monitor to factory settings. If you need better contrast, calibrate your monitor with a good colorimeter to BT.2020.
There really is no going back from OLED. After I got an OLED TV I knew that my next monitor would be OLED too. It just looks stunning compared to other panel types.
I ended up getting this. - Awesome colors without tuning (in my opinion) - 240 hz. Latency and motion clarity feels just like the 27" AQDM, but in 4K! - Very, very decent HDR. Not MiniLED level, but generally adequate and feels much brighter than AQDM and Samsuing G8 OLED. All in all, if the AQDM is a 7/10, this is a 9/10. But too bad it doesn't have 480 hz. Text looks GOOD!
I basically went down the exact same path as you. Got ny first 4k monitor and first OLED at the same time. Got the open box to shave off $200 and still felt sick because of how much I spent. But it literally made my jaw drop when I got home. Worth it.
The change from lcd to oled is the same as going from 60hz to 144hz because the moment you try it you don't want to ever go back (at least in my opinion)
I bought the same screen. It’s one of the first screens that combines 4K + 240Hz + 1000 nits (peak) HDR. And is OLED for deep backs and per pixel HDR. Two years ago you had to pay 3000$ for a 1000 zone local dimming over 1000 nits 32” 144Hz 4K monitor. That monitor had a loud fan. And it had a wobbling halo around your mouse cursor due to too coarse local dimming. It also lacked HDMI 2.1 ports (for consoles). So I wouldn’t be complaining about the price. It’s half the price of a similar two years older monitor and has fixed the haloing issue, no loud fan and higher refresh rate and faster pixels too. Has HDMI 2.1 and has 95W charging over fast USB-C port capable of 4K 240Hz signal for laptop use. And KVM switch for laptop + desktop seamless use. This is the first no-compromise monitor for me. Two years ago I said that I buy a monitor like this if the price halves. And I did. And I got even better monitor too :)
Bought the LG 45 inch OLED monitor. It’s been amazing for ultra wide 1440p and got it open box from Best Buy for 950 bucks. Almost half off msrp. Replaced my LG C2. To me, I love the dark darks. Had the C2 for a few years and no burn after 1000s of hours.
I bought a LG 3440x1440 45" OLED monitor and I love it. Where you were showing 4 k with upscaling at 150ish max. I can get 220-240 in Horizon Forbidden West. Granted I am using a RX 7900 XTX card. Now part of why I wanted such a large monitor is that I keep my eyes over 5 feet away from the monitor.
The TestUFO image duplication problem is because you're using a static camera position, but those parts of the test updated to a new monitor refresh mid-way through your capture. To avoid this you need to either carefully test using a persuit camera (moving on rails at the same speed as the UFO, so that both images stack on top of each other) or you need a shorter shutter speed.
Hey. I have that exact LG model too. I am also extremely pleased with the purchase. One problem I have with it is that sometimes, the USB hub just DOESN'T WANT TO F***ING WORK!!! Biggest improvement to it was peeling off the obnoxiously well glued on g-sync sticker.
I bought a dell u2518d for £60 from my work like a year ago and damn i love this thing. ...thats including my 50% staff discount. to see you spending almost as much for a monitor as i paid for my whole pc makes me feel both awe and a little bit of rage
I picked up the Alienware QD OLED ultrawide during Black Friday last year. Peior to BF, it was $1200. I got it for $800 and its been tbe biggest upgrade I've made to my setup in a long time. It's just completely better than even my high end mini-LED display or anything I've seen since plasma back in the day. It's truly a game changer for gaming on.
I have to say, on my ultrawide OLED, it's not the blacks or the contrast that make the most difference but the screen width. Two full screens with no bezel between them is a real game changer. Dying Light 2 looks spectacular. Watching movies on an OLED is stunning though.
Got my 1440p ultra wide, 240hz, oled monitor for 600 off. I’ve always hated the monitors that I would get over the years because how the colors were just bad, especially if it didnt have a saturation setting. I’m hoping the OLED will solve all of this for me.
Upgrading your monitor gives you headroom. I'm currently running an MG279Q at 144 Hz. That monitor came out in 2015. Back then I could barely achieve 144 FPS in contemporary titles using respectable settings. It's been almost 10 years, now I can hit 300 FPS in Apex maxed out. 200 FPS in Fortnite at a touch higher than competitive settings. I need more monitor. The times have changed, the expectations have changed. Everything has changed
came from a 1080p 360hz 25'' ips panel to a 14'' laptop with a 120hz oled panel with 1800p... honestly i couldnt be happier, its the best panel ive looked at except for 10k€ tvs in electronic stores
I upgraded my 10+ years old 24" 1080p 60Hz tft monitor to a 27" 1440p 180Hz IPS monitor for about 230€ (~250 freedom coins) including 19% sales taxes and I freaking love this upgrade I think I know now why these tech channels say the monitor makes a huge difference if you upgrade like I did But I can't imagine that an upgrade from my IPS panel to any OLED panel would be nearly as impactful to me😊
Good review for casual gamers who don’t care about framerate, input lag, presentation speed, motion clarity/blur, color spaces and accuracy, HDR, ergonomics, etc.
you already had an amazing monitor. I upgraded from a 1080p 60hz monitor........ to a 200hz ultrawide g-sync monitor (with 1000nit brightness, I like to sit next to a large window). and the difference was MASSIVE
The sad thing is, most people watching this video are watching on non-OLED monitor and cannot see the difference OLED offers. You can only appreciate OLED when you look at it from an OLED monitor.
I got the 240hz 2k monitor for like 700 when they where going for like 900 like 8 months ago. I love it. It feels amazing and looks amazing. No permanent burn in yet
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"I Bought a $1,300 Monitor to see if it's Even Worth It" ❌
"I Bought a $1.300 Monitor to see" ✅
to see what
Sorry but in US we only use . To separate dollars from cents, example $1,299.99
@@aaronpalmer7425 Bro missed the joke
@@alecsbizarrememes7862 Not necessarily. He's just correcting your incorrectly used period.
@@googlewolly I am using the period to indicate how most viewers watching are on a cheap monitor
I got an OLED monitor a few months ago, proper hdr really is amazing.
Yeah coming from a 1080 60. The 4k jump and higher framerate are neat but the real game changer is hdr. No doubt.
you should look into this github paage i found by a guy named dylan raga. called windows hdr srgb to gamma 2.2 or something. I don't hear windows terrible tone mapping being talked about enough, and this fixes that.
NO such think as "proper" hdr, there is no standard, and it's all software tech.
@@drunkhusband6257 the heck are you on about? Contrast and max brightness plays a roles. Theres also dimming zones, back light alg and additional input lag (if youre not using oled)
@@MobileEFoxxy You apparently, as most people seem confused by what HDR is...
One thing with the image that people dont seem to notice is the absolute uniforminity of the image, every single edge of the screen just displays content without any bleeding backlights, no contrast shifts.
It's not really something you think much about until you see it live.
I personally am spoiled by just how great the 100% screen image quality is.
As for HDR, due to the contrast i think it looks significantly better than mini led. The only thing i liked about mini led was its peak sdr brightness, but bleeding that brightness into HDR(RTX and auto) kind of ruins the effect. ABL on the other hand can be a bother in some instances, but those were rare for me. Shit just blows me away, when the HDR really kicks in. Sime scenes in elden ring, the scenes with proper black levels, or the intro stage in gears 5 when your wakking through a pitch black cave and the brightness of your armors "hey im a friendly" just pop in ways they just cant in sdr.
MSI is going for 900-950
Alienware goes for 999(sometimes)
Msi also sells one for 4k165hz for 800 rn
(this is US pricing)
Same panel for all of these as the Asus, don't scam yourself
Also the MSI 27' 1440p360hz are 800 as well
Thanks for pointing out these other options :)
Asus is like 1600-1700$ here in Europe in my region,either Msi or gigabyte 1200-1300 $Alienware is 1000$ for the same panel😂
I picked Aw its really good.
@Whreck11 I also got the AW, really happy with this!
@@perezcristian13cp Yes I ended up buying the alienware [partly for the g-sync as well as the price] and it is great.
I wonder how many will burn after 8 years. Forget keeping them that long, disposable monitors I guess
Mate, my LG C1 4K 120 has been a bloody game-changer! I got it for £700 on Black Friday a couple of years back, and it's been an absolute steal.
$700 and you call that a steal? I can get a 60" LED TV for under $400 at Walmart. Insane, absolutely insane. So many consoomers here...
@@robotron1236 You've clearly never had a nice TV if you think that is even comparable. And yes £700, not dollars, is an absolute bargain.
@@Gr00t the euro and the dollar are fairly close in exchange rates.
@@Gr00t my 60” TV also does 4k.
@robotron1236 You're kidding right? Satire?
I wish I was rich enough to buy things to see if it's a scam.
same homie..same
i doubt Vex is LinusTechTips level rich or GamersNexus lmao, and he probably planned this purchase for like a year
I’m not rich but got it in payments with Afterpay 😅 I’ll finish paying it off in November 💪
OLED isn't a scam, go to best buy and see them side by side
@@SimplCupwhy, he got content out of this monitor, he will make this money back with this video
130 bucks isn't worth open box, I think. Should be, at minimum, 350.
These are in high demand. The fact that he got the full warranty I'd say it's worth it. Although this doesn't change that I think this specific model is overpriced.
@@dotxyn Nah, not worth it for a discount of just 130. In that case, may as well go brand new.
@@googlewolly A month ago people were on waiting lists for 32" 4k OLEDs. He didn't mention if stock was why he got his open box, but no doubt that was going to get snatched up quick.
@@dotxyn I'm obviously referring to if a new one is possible. He implied that he did it to save money, so I'm saying that 130 isn't worth it for that.
130 bucks less, one of the best OLEDs, 3-year warranty still on it (let's assume Asus will honor it) and its only open box, meaning there's a high likelihood that the previous owner just opened it and return it for any reason besides the monitor itself? Yeah, 130 bucks is enough for the majority. I think that would only apply to LCDs since OLED monitors are in high demand.
Upgrading from ips to qd oled best decision i made,its visually stunning.
I'll stick with my 4k IPS monitor I have zero reasons to spend $1300 for a monitor lol
yes, especially nvidia has auto RTX HDR, so now you can play with HDR even in games that doesn't support HDR
@qwertyrewtywyterty it looks garbage on my ips display
@@zomberkay because it's IPS, duh
@@qwertyrewtywyterty you don't necessary need RTX HDR for that, you can enable HDR through Special K or Reshade with no performance hit.
The 3 big cons of OLED:
1. Expensive.
2. Burn-in risk.
3. Dimmer full screen brightness, might not look as nice as LCD in day time scenes depending on preference.
Outside of the above, OLED is literally better in everything else.
I get the best of both worlds by having a decent 4k 32" monitor for productivity, and a 65" LG C4 as a secondary monitor. Works perfectly for the games I enjoy since I'm no longer super interested in competitive shooters and such. Helldivers 2, Alan Wake, Dead Space have all been a blast and looked amazing on the big screen. All the caveats are kind of expected when you're at the bleeding edge of tech. That being said I fully expect to get at least 5 years of life out of the C4 since my old 55" C7 lasted the same amount of time before it started to show burn in - and today's panels are much more resilient than before.
Burn-in is vastly over estimated, it's basically not an issue anymore.
@@ThisisCitrus Nope. Rting and Hardware Unboxed are both conducting accelerated burn-in tests. They are still present. While Rtings focuses on TVs and often older models, Hardware Unboxed sees burn-in as quickly as 3 months of worse case scenario type stress test on more modern OLED monitors. It is still a risk and care still need to be taken if you want your OLED to last.
@@SashimiSteak Their tests prove its not an issue. They are running the display 24/7 on a static screen without using pixel cleaning and it took years of watch time for burn in to show. Its a non issue.
@@ThisisCitrusThe way I interpret it is if it happens at all, it is a risk. To have to adjust the way you use the screen to minimise that risk, it is still a con.
I once paid $1700 for a 19" NEC CRT monitor, and you know what, it was worth it, lasted for a decade+ finally got donated when I Switch to LCD
A decade on 19" oooff, you should've spend less and transition earlier to bigger screens, 19" is painful
The biggest thing when looking for oled monitors is sales. All these monitors that are well over a $1000 are constantly on sale. The one I got which is a $1500 one I got on sale for $800 and at that price I think it's absolutely worth getting an OLED and I've even seen some OLEDs as low as just under $600
I went from an ips to an oled, and i have to say. Seeing as ill have my OLED monitor for several years, it is so incredibly worth the price
Only until it burns in. 😂
@@metallboy25 that doesnt really happen though…
@@metallboy25 Any display can get burn in genius.
@@metallboy25 new oleds dont have that issue anymore
17:16 I am confused as to how it's upscaling to 4k all he did was change resolution to 2k, don't you have to change settings or something?
One aspect often overlooked in the LCD vs. OLED debate is the parallax effect that occurs near the edges of an LCD panel due to its polarization layer. While this issue is mainly noticeable on larger (32"+) flat panels, it can become quite irritating, especially if you use software with very thin or narrow scroll bars. OLEDs don't have this issue at all, next to the pure blacks and insane pixel response times, it's something that instantly stood out to me.
Screen burn is the elephant in the room, manufacturers want you to ignore it, but it WILL destroy your image and it doesnt take long either.
@@engjdsIn that case if it's burnt in after 3 years you can file a warranty claim.
Neither does my 10 year old 47" LED TV, or my 32" LCD, or my 60" LED. Some people are so gullible.
@@Alex-tu5vu Good luck with proving you didnt mistreat it, as long as you buy with expectations that it will happen.
@engjds Bro just stop with nonsense, I've had an oled tv for 6 years no burn in. And a oled monitor for 2 years no burn in. Yes both will eventually go out like any electronic. Guess if your poor it's an issue , if you want the best a 6 or 7 years oled is perfect.
Every time I'm about to hit the purchase button on this monitor, I remember, "Oh yeah. My computer is 20 years old. I don't need to see my graphics card struggling in vivid clarity."
The problem with HDR is that the _games_ often don't implement it well - in fact sometimes games implement it really poorly. TH-cam channels like GamingTech do a lot of game testing and can tell you which games are worth playing in HDR and which can be skipped - and which will look good if you use the settings they found.
Windows also freaks out if you have more than one display in HDR mode. Moving windows to ither virtual desktop workspaces is just flat out broken on all but the main display. It’s such a headache I have decided it’s not worth turning on at all.
This is why you just use RTX HDR and why I wouldn't consider anything but Nvidia with these new panels. I effectively end up with "pretty well done hdr" on all games and all videos.
Your ips monitor, old one, has absolutely zero ips bleed/glow. It is insane. Mine lg 27gl850 is full on the edges.
Mine with almost 1300 hours and that I bought used at 11225 has very few to none bleed or glow. It got kinda blurry recently though.
Any IPS has IPS glow, it's just a function of view point. Move yourself further or use longer focal length camera and it disappears.
While bleed is manufacturing problem that doesn't change with viewing position.
That's very rare and expensive OR just recorded right.
Mine2, same model as yours except the 32 inch version.
Yeah, I would never go IPS again because of the glow. My current monitor is absolutely unusable without the lights and a lamp on or all i can see is the glow at the bottom left lol.
got my 1440p 240hz IPS for 280$ (koorui 27e3qk from amazon) a couple months ago, i aint complaining, cant go wrong with IPS at that price, OLED is such a big price jump, LCD is still best value by far.
Where did you find that?
@@DaBrown101 its the koorui 27e3qk, got it from amazon, price is probably even lower by now.
@@DaBrown101 koorui 27e3qk from amzon.
koorui 27e3qk from amazon.
koorui 27e3qk from amzon.
There's nothing like showing both monitors together to really see the difference. Good video my man. I'm actually about to purchase an OLED 4K.
Except he didn't use the most colour accurate settings,
@@MaZEEZaM Also the strong light glare the whole time on the IPS.
Yeah that was my stopping point in the video. I'm surprised this topic was so deep in the comments. This is a very slanted review. Agenda.
Going from a 1080p IPS panel to a 4K OLED was one of the most mind-blowing things ever.
I'm going from IPS to TN 🤣🤣🤣🤣
You could turn on DLDSR or VSR.
I've gone from 1440p tn to 1440p OLED and it is amazing. I've used HDR twice in almost a year though. HDR... is impressive gimmick for now. There is no better SDR monitor than OLED.
I think i need to have my eyes checked. Or i just landed in some kind of cult 😂
Enjoy it until screen burn destroys that image.
i play on a 65" Samsung QN90A QLED......looks very close to OLED, brighter, and peace of mind that ten years from now there will still be no burn in on my expensive display. I can live with the little blooming I get from time to time.
Yeah 43 inch QN90B is working great. It's around 100ppi so text is nice and sharp sitting at the desk and I have a sofa close to it for use as a tv/gamepad games
i did the switch and it is genuinly an experience
my question is what website did you find those used cars on? 👀
Asking the right question.
must have been at Wayback
that shit was cap
I would love to switch to OLED but I'm on my computer 8-10 hours a day for work and I fear it'll burn in.
Yeah fuck that a good monitor with ups panel is good anyway
Il say it straight if you work that much on your PC don't get oled that simple oled r made for mainly entertainment so gaming etc and casual browsing soif you mainly work on it for 8 hrs you will get get burn in with in a year because on the channel monitor unboxed he tried to use a oled monitor for work only so 8 hrs a day so after 3 months or so he all ready got signs of burn in so my guess before he hits 1 year he will get burn in since he uses the monitor for only work so in your case 8 to 10 hrs work is a no go so get a mini LED instead better for what you do until micro OLED comes but that's far away than it's no burn in risk
Been working on an OLED for months now, no issue. Also, according to RTINGS latest tests, LCDs actually have more burn in issues than OLEDs.
@@3borsresistance551image retention is not the same as burn in, image retention is temporary, burn in is permanent 🤷♂️
@@3borsresistance551 yes but it depends how much you work because Tim from monitor unboxed worked on his pc 8 hrs a day for 3 months and he got sign of burn in so you need to be specific because if you don't than your comment has 0 value because some work 3 some less some alot more so you need to be specific but my guess you don't work 8 hrs a day on your OLED if you did you would have signs of burn in all ready that simple since Tim all ready did a 3 months testing
One thing to note that a lot of people miss is that low fps content looks worse on OLED. If you’re in the 30fps range it almost looks like a shutter door since the frames are displayed so quickly, you lose that blur between frames that traditional led monitors produce. I have a hard time playing console titles or on switch in 30fps on my OLED’s even when using motion smoothing features. Just some food for thought.
If you're playing ANYTHING in the 30 fps range when you can afford an OLED monitor, your priorities are messed up and should probably have bought a better graphics card
@@mr.waffles2555 or just stay away from shity unoptimised games.
Well yeah no crap lol
@mikaeo23 u missed the word switch i guess
@@mikaeo23 Yeah I’ll be sure to get a better graphics card for my Switch and PS5 exclusives 🤣 I play on all platforms and don’t limit myself to PC only. My comment is there to educate those who aren’t aware of those cons. I’d be willing to bet I have more experience with OLED and better hardware in my PC than you do.
For the longest time of my life I used PCs I somehow managed to scrap together that where barely running. But I had a great time with friends gaming hours on end. Now I have a 4000€ PC, that ASUS Monitor, VR Headset and so on but only like 5 hours per week to play … adulthood sucks sometimes lol. But when I’m using it I’m always blown away how far gaming tech has come.
i just went all in a while back and bought a 65-inch LG G2 oled. and wall mounted it. main screen for my pc/ps5.
Same got the c3 65
yup, tv not monitor is the better choice right now
love the trend that people move to TVs as monitors! (why place 25" monitors side by side when you can just place a 50" TV on the table, haha)
There are little to no drawbacks imo since multiple screens and wider screens became the norm for gaming focused setups.
I use my 50" TV often in 21:9 for games like Cyberpunk and it's just plain awesome^^
I've been on a 4k 40inch samsung curve since like 2018 and have zero regrets. Monitors are just too small for me
That's what the goats do. I say that cause I use a 55C1 as a monitor 😂
18:12 4k DLSS Ultra performance is 720p
Q=67% of native
B=59% of native
P=50% of native
UP=33% of native
Truly the year of the OLED
@@phm04 the year of consoomers and mouth breathers…
More like cheap ips/va monitor year. Lenovo Legion R27qe for 150 usd that specs used to be 500 2 years ago.
I guess, right now your best bet for a money is Direct LED, Mini-LED IPS with local dimming and HDR.
I appreciate that you're directly comparing the monitor I currently have, to the monitor I want.
Bro is cooming for 24 minutes and 55 seconds straight
Genuinely considering selling my OLED, starts to get old when you realise how often you have to clean the darn thing
@@trinityforce9138 clean OLED? Lmao I only dust it off once a month when I clean everything. Idk what type of cleaning you be doing
@@trinityforce9138 ive genuinely considered selling crack
@@trinityforce9138 Lol why would you need to clean it more than lcd?
@@ilaripori6148 Talking about cooming on the display.
I think you should buy tv like 42"-48" LG c4. They are cheaper and 42"-48" is better suited for 4k resolution. 32" is super small for 4k. I have 48" LG c1 and it was best thing i have done.
I like your comment....x I was thinking 42.5 " and it seems good at that size... Brill
The point of 4K displays is the best pixel density possible, and you just nullify that by having a huge panel?
@@シミズルリ but a huge panel at 1080
Depending on viewing distance. @@シミズルリ
@@S-Fish-yt3ib buy 42 inch LG oled C4. i bought 48 inch same model and it's quiet big for me. Coming from 32 inch gaming monitor.
I'd you were willing to give up 4K you could have gotten 360Hz QD-OLED for $750.
Which one in particular are you talking about?
@eduardomartindelcampo4555 Check out these:
Gigabyte Aurus FO27Q3
MSI MPG 271QRX
Alienware AW2725DF
You can probably find one of them on sale, and all come well-reviewed by "Monitors Unboxed".
*Warning*: when you see how good these look you might decide to buy a new graphics card (I did.)
@@eduardomartindelcampo4555 Check out these:
Gigabyte Aurus FO27Q3
MSI MPG 271QRX
Alienware AW2725DF
You will probably find at least one of these on sale, and all are reviewed and recommended by "Monitors Unboxed".
*WARNING*: After seeing how good these look, you might decide to buy a new graphics card (I did.)
@@eduardomartindelcampo4555 I tried to reply but my reply is just getting auto-deleted.
@@eduardomartindelcampo4555AW2523DF
I heard once you go OLED, you can't go back. Since the price is too high, I'll stick with my crappy 1440p monitor 😅
Well yeah once you experience something better that what you're used to you will not want to go back.
It's like switching from 720p square screen from 15 years ago to 4K UW this year, ain't no way someone's going back with that.
I can confirm this. Now that I have one all other screens in my house look like crap to me hahahahaha
Depends on how much you value the image quality. I have an LG OLED and IPS panels side-by-side by I mainly use the IPS. I leave the OLED for movies and such. Doesn't really matter in most games, I don't play them for visuals anyways.
And text looks sharper on 1440p ips compared to 4k OLED thanks to Microsoft not implementing cleartype for WRGB subpixel layout.
I too have a 1440p 240 hz monitor and I'm happy with the purchase
As an OLED enjoyer, you're 100% right
Went from a 34" VA 100hz to a 45" 240hz OLED. The hype is real.
Oled 100% worth it , i can’t play on lcd after oled , and i will buy another oled fpr 1.500 if my brakes
I only care about input lag,
Response time, and FPS for Rocket League.
I currently have a 280hz IPS LCD from asus abojt 3 years old.
How drastic will it be to move to a 360hz 1440p OLED on rocket league?
@@signedupfordoconly4275 I have the 360hz oled, and I would say it's not much of a difference in RL (I play a ton of RL), but in other games like Overwatch, or Valorant, etc where you are whipping your mouse around and snapping on people you can definitely tell a difference.
@@signedupfordoconly4275 Well, pixel response times are lowest there can be.
@@signedupfordoconly4275 I switched from 144hz IPS to 240hz OLED and the difference is amazing. I've heard that the jump from 240hz to 360hz is small but definitely noticeable, but I think in your case the biggest improvement would be the switch to OLED.
The quick response times of OLEDs have very little to do with input lag, its just how quickly a pixel can switch from one color to another. Faster response times result in better motion clarity, with less ghosting and motion blur. High refresh rate OLEDs feel so nice to game on because you can see everything clearly, even in fast motion.
I will say the longer you can wait, the cheaper and better OLEDs will become. 280hz IPS is still a great monitor and I wouldn't really feel the need to upgrade to a $1000+ monitor right now unless you have the money to spend, and really care about the better motion clarity and contrast ratios.
@signedupfordoconly4275 noticeable difference but not night and day. The jump in image quality though is day and night.
After using First Gen qd oled, in terms of HDR, the problem is that 1000 nits mode, decreases average picture brightness by half when u reach specific scene brightness (it does it to keep that nit difference), making HDR 450 true black overall brighter minus highlights (as it doesn't dim nearly as much). Still if overall picture is super bright youre so close to it's 250 nits limit, that even SDR at around 100% will look the same. Monitor is just unable to make anything pop when overall scene is too bright. MLA WOLED is better for HDR now for like 1-15% highlights, but... there is no glossy finish which I grew to like. Keep that in mind folks. Can't wait for next gen WOLED but without matte finish, possibly 300 nits at fullscreen white.
I went with 3rd gen QD-OLED because I found the MLA WOLED to look washed out, the white subpixel just seems to wash out the colours unlike the quantum dots.
I bought the first round of 1440p 240hz OLEDs.
They are overrated. Is it nice? Yes, but these TH-cam channels sold them like the second coming of christ and it is disingenuous. Hell, most game's implementation of HDR is ASS.
Get a quality IPS for half the price.
Watched the video for a unique take on the ASUS 4K OLED monitor. Stayed for the cat at the end. Well done!
After tax, I paid just shy of $2000 for my LG 40WP95C-W 40” UltraWide. I have ZERO regrets. I bought it for productivity with a macbook pro but it still has a 75hz refresh rate so it's got a smoother look and feel than any other 60hz screen. The screen itself though is absolutely incredible.
0:45 i know i have it but its still awesome , its 2 1440p oleds mashed together so you can game while having youtube or a guide on the side , but ive never used it this way cause i baby it scared of burn in but yet i know play one game so im making it vulnerable to burn in
That's why I went with a VA panel. Really high contrast, almost pitch black. No ghosting on my particular model at 240hz. It is 1080p but it was 1/10th of the price of this oled monitor. It's also more vibrant than the ips monitors I've used.
I’m coming from a 1080p 144hrtz monitor to a 32in 4k OLED 240hrtz this next week. Got a rtx 4090 and 7800x3d PC coming from a 2070 super. can’t wait :)
Did you win the lottery or stumble upon a briefcase full of cash or something?
@@DerekMoore82 i did it i mean something similar went from 1650 super to 4080 super just work hard and i saved up for years and finally got the setup i wanted
@@DerekMoore82work for your self and u Will buy this easy
@Paule9511 Why didn't I think of that? I'll just go out and start working for myself tomorrow and be rich, thanks for the advice! You should really tell more people, if everyone knew about this totally doable advice of yours, there would be no poor people, and we'd all work for ourselves! Of course... then we wouldn't have any employees... I guess we'll just have to keep this super convenient advice of yours a secret so we'll have some people left to work for us!
@@DerekMoore82 stay poor so
You are missing the point. This is not for someone who has a $1000 gaming computer, this is for those of us with a 4090 builds
thanks for not upselling us, u saved me from over spending mate, and nice desk! will give it a look cheers!!
There is a significant difference between OLED monitors and TVs. Usually TVs are brighter and larger which again makes it seem even brighter. To me HDR is a HUGE selling point, and really does make a massive difference in movies and games. The colors, shadows and highlights just stand out so much.
1440p looks sharp on a 27" monitor, if 32" go for 4k would be better.
Plus, it also depends on the quality of your 1440p monitor display like panel, color gamut, contrast, etc...
Some 1440p IPS panel does comes with low contrast but some looks fine. Of course, it also depends on the "budget"...
For me 32 inches is too big for gaming…27 is perfect.
32" with sharpness slightly raised still works tho
@@Mike-jm4gg Yeah, I am having the same thought. But I haven't try on 27" monitor, will try later😄
@@strider029 👍 I found that those I mentioned above is ideal inches for different resolution, but not super bad.
It is because I found that a lot of users said that 1080p is lousy, pixelated, blur, etc. End up they were talking about 27" 1080p😅😅
For 1080p, it looks sharp if go for 23.8" / 24".
Same scenario for 27" 1440p and 32" 4k, ideal perception.
I want more mini-led monitors on the market
Led is ded, piss of kid
20:06 well my pc is around 3500 bucks so the spending a third is kind of an accurate statement!
Maaan, Vex! You had the perfect Galaxy Quest setup, "what a savings"...you almost had it 😂
the msi 1440p, 240hz, 27inch IPS is PLENTY for me
you say this untill you experience oled in person
I have the same one gang 🙌
LG 42” C4 OLED = $1289AUD, 32” OLED = $2200, scratching head…oh it says gaming. Gaming tax = $1000
240Hz?
Yeah that 240hz vs what maybe 120 on the TV?
Any comment on the QD OLED panel washing out in bright environments? I can (and do) keep my room fairly dark, but how dark is dark enough? I don't wanna spend 1300 to find out, and looking at the screen in a brightly lit showroom probably won't help much.
Have the same question
what screen exactly? look on rtings and see how much brighter it'll be and then you can turn your current screen to the max and see if you got "brightness issues". (can't get bright enough to fight glare, blacks get elevated without darkening the room)
If yes I'd say that it might not be the right choice. if you don't get the issue it's worth the try imo, especially if you get them somewhere with a good return policy.
It's noticeable to me in office environments. Wait for a second gen version to get a filter/coating on it to reduce that issue or go with an LG panel. But not those $500 1440p 27in panels. Those aren't very good. Sharpness leaves a lot to be desired. I got one and returned it almost immediately. Too blurry.
If you're not in a bright environment then you're fine.
use mine during the day, you will be fine as long as you are not having direct light on the front of it, i even have my blinds completely open, while there is indeed slight black raise that happens, its nowhere near as bad as people make out to be, it could also be how my room is setup as well tho
My room is pretty bright, but unless I play really dark games or watch such movies (like horrors or sth) it's not noticeable at all. And the "washing out" apply only to blacks, because they get slight purple tint - other colors are untouched.
I've had the Alienware AW3423DW since 2022, paid approximately $1300 for it, and I can say with absolute certainty that it is definitely one of the most significant upgrades I've made, and HDR is no joke.
That side by side is huge.
I’ve had an oled ultrawide but I’ve never done a side by side like that. Has made me wonder how much better it really is.
Seeing it like this I feel validated.
That’s side by side is a game changer.
I was waiting for you to pull out lossless scalings new 4x mode to try hit that 240fps mark, wondering if you've tried it?
Lossless scaling frame generation produces a smoother motion but introduces a lot of artifacts and the game feels less responsive than native
@@Goejiiexactly and if you compare it with the real frame gen from nvidia lossless scaling is a gimmick
@@ImperialCitizenn yep and Nvidia solves most of the issues of frame gen with Nvidia Reflex + Boost.
@@LeadSails yeah the real frame gen is awesome and lossless scaling feels is garbage because with the input lag it doesnt even feel like real high frame rate
Even by watching this video through TH-cam on a phone, I can see a huge visual quality difference between those 2 monitors!
I'm guessing your phone have OLED screen?
@@KingKogarasumaru
Yes, it does. And 1440p resolution too.
my best pg322ucdm, best monitor in the world, 4k QD-OLED IMPRESSIVE
Yeah agree i have both asus and aorus but aorus more brighter.(ps5)But no complaints qd oleds are visually stunning.
Personally the cost isn't my problem, my old monitor was $1500 on sale when I got it, it's the brightness. OLED looks great, but the brightness plummets with area of the screen used where over 20% is less than 500 nits and 30% goes into the 200s. My old monitor had FALD so it was already better than 99% of LCD displays so darks aren't that big a benefit. But my monitor was able to hit 1000 nits or 750 full screen. That's just so much more.
For me the benefits of the OLED are more the motion clarity and the benefits of a glossy panel, which monitor makes seem allergic to for some reason.
Great video...A friend once tried to convince me to buy one of these, saying that "Eventually you'll need a 240hz 4K monitor as the graphics card technology catches up with higher 4K resolution gaming" but, my main argument is "Why would I buy that 4K high refresh rate OLED monitor right now at over $1,000?...Instead, why not just wait until the price on 200+hz 4K OLED monitors starts to come down once we can actually push the higher resolution graphics up to those 200 plus FPS numbers without having to lower settings to sacrificing the image quality just to reach those higher FPS numbers" :)
There’s a lot of games that i’m getting close to those numbers though, especially with tools such as DLSS 3 Frame Gen + Nvidia Reflex + Boost, and that doesn’t sacrifice image quality in any noticeable way, I personally couldn’t see a difference. For example I was getting like 170 fps in God of War: Ragnarok at 4K Ultra on the 4090. Also with the 5090 about to release in the next couple of months, that’ll take way more advantage of these monitors.
Also it isn’t just the framerates but 240hz is nice to have in 4K. The main difference OLED makes is those true blacks and that contrast which is unmatchable.
i see all these oled fans justifying their purchase to themselves by hyping it up by calling it "worth it" ... tell me when it gets below 500 usd... it happened with 240hz ips monitors.
Burn in on a TV is extremely manageable. Burn in on a PC however, no thank you. I’m convinced that mini-led is the sweet spot for PC monitors.
Jokes on you.... I like to have a crosshair from another game permanently burned in to my monitor so I don't have to worry about shitty crosshairs in other games /s
Each to their own, but if purely gaming, the risk is greatly reduced and MSI and Alienware both cover burn-in in their 3 year warranties.
I'll wait for mini LED to get good, can't deal with the fear of burn in on OLED
You needn't. I've had a c1 for years and there is no burn in.
What's your usage "style" ? @@braisedtoast9002
I got the LG 1440p 240hz W-OLED, open box for 800 in 2023, back when it was 1k. I am so glad I did, it's easily the best thing I ever did. Say, if you have a 3080/3070, and you were looking to upgrade your monitor to a 4070ti/4080... don't. Just get the monitor instead. Such an amazing upgrade. Clarity and color is just so good.
2:20 Correction, OLED is generally lit at a sub-pixel level, so a 4K TV might have over 8 million pixels, but it will have at least 24 million individually lit sub pixels, many TVs use multiple sub pixels of the same color to have better control over the brightness of each color so a 4K OLED with only ~8 million pixels, might have as many as 100 million OLEDs AKA individual dimming zones.
I have a with a .
bros wallet is the bottleneck, just like the rest of us
@@00Cubic so true xd
😂😂 zero warranty...
There is a reason why Sony dumped QD-OLED/OLED over Mini-LED.
Qd oled better visually than mini led my friend but i agree its risky for its price,sorry for my poor english.
@@ozgurkuzu2202 my england are very bad too.... its ok brothar
So what's the reason Samsung and LG stopped producing lcd displays completely?
Mini Led doesn't suffer burn in and looks almost as good as OLED, much better for a PC monitor for longevity
@@ozgurkuzu2202 They speak english because it is the only language they know.
We speak english because it is the only language they know.
The difference.
I bought the GLOSSY !!! 32" Dell AW3225QF. $899 on sale. Incredible. The best picture I have ever seen on my computer, and I have a 32" LG32GQ950 ATW Nano IPS too. Night and day. Love this Dell. The curve is SOOOO slight, you hardly notice it, but it also adds just a little something to games. Very happy. The M28105 Firmware fixes everything from Old reviews.
Fun fact for HDR video recording, if you record with the windows game bar, or take screenshots with it, it will save a SDR tone map version alongside the HDR version
i mean who pays 1300$ for a monitor without having 4090 gpu, you should have tested it with 4090
OLED + 4070 > 4090 + IPS. The visual quality is better than any graphics settings. Just add DLSS or lower settings. It will still look way better.
@@Rspsand07for the current prices of Oled, I'd rather get a high end VA like the samsung neo g7 and spend the rest on a better gpu
@@Rspsand07I have a 4k 144hz ips monitor right now with a 4090. Would 1440p oled look blurry to me or not? I'm thinking of getting one.
And still doesn't use dp 2.1 lmao
These people are consoomer NPCs, that do the latest thing the influencer on the screen tells them to. Absolutely wild...
Oled is the best forget everything else.
Contrast is normally factory set at a default value and does not require an adjustment on modern monitors. If you adjust it in any direction, clipping happens and you get blown out whites and crushed blacks. If you don't know the default position, reset the monitor to factory settings. If you need better contrast, calibrate your monitor with a good colorimeter to BT.2020.
There really is no going back from OLED. After I got an OLED TV I knew that my next monitor would be OLED too. It just looks stunning compared to other panel types.
I ended up getting this.
- Awesome colors without tuning (in my opinion)
- 240 hz. Latency and motion clarity feels just like the 27" AQDM, but in 4K!
- Very, very decent HDR. Not MiniLED level, but generally adequate and feels much brighter than AQDM and Samsuing G8 OLED.
All in all, if the AQDM is a 7/10, this is a 9/10. But too bad it doesn't have 480 hz.
Text looks GOOD!
I basically went down the exact same path as you. Got ny first 4k monitor and first OLED at the same time. Got the open box to shave off $200 and still felt sick because of how much I spent. But it literally made my jaw drop when I got home. Worth it.
how do you like the nauseating OLED VVR flicker? I took my OLED back after a few days and only use LCD until QDEL display technology comes out.
@@ImakeTanks I've never noticed it.
@@ImakeTanks If your getting stable frame rates it won't flucker. Also my monitor has a feature to reduce flicker.
The change from lcd to oled is the same as going from 60hz to 144hz because the moment you try it you don't want to ever go back (at least in my opinion)
I bought the same screen. It’s one of the first screens that combines 4K + 240Hz + 1000 nits (peak) HDR. And is OLED for deep backs and per pixel HDR.
Two years ago you had to pay 3000$ for a 1000 zone local dimming over 1000 nits 32” 144Hz 4K monitor. That monitor had a loud fan. And it had a wobbling halo around your mouse cursor due to too coarse local dimming. It also lacked HDMI 2.1 ports (for consoles).
So I wouldn’t be complaining about the price. It’s half the price of a similar two years older monitor and has fixed the haloing issue, no loud fan and higher refresh rate and faster pixels too. Has HDMI 2.1 and has 95W charging over fast USB-C port capable of 4K 240Hz signal for laptop use. And KVM switch for laptop + desktop seamless use.
This is the first no-compromise monitor for me. Two years ago I said that I buy a monitor like this if the price halves. And I did. And I got even better monitor too :)
I expect us to get even better monitor two years later at half the price. But this is the cheapest monitor with these specs today.
Bought the LG 45 inch OLED monitor. It’s been amazing for ultra wide 1440p and got it open box from Best Buy for 950 bucks. Almost half off msrp. Replaced my LG C2. To me, I love the dark darks. Had the C2 for a few years and no burn after 1000s of hours.
I bought this same PG32UCDM, absolute game changer, never going anything lower than 4k.
I bought a LG 3440x1440 45" OLED monitor and I love it. Where you were showing 4 k with upscaling at 150ish max. I can get 220-240 in Horizon Forbidden West. Granted I am using a RX 7900 XTX card. Now part of why I wanted such a large monitor is that I keep my eyes over 5 feet away from the monitor.
The TestUFO image duplication problem is because you're using a static camera position, but those parts of the test updated to a new monitor refresh mid-way through your capture. To avoid this you need to either carefully test using a persuit camera (moving on rails at the same speed as the UFO, so that both images stack on top of each other) or you need a shorter shutter speed.
Hey. I have that exact LG model too. I am also extremely pleased with the purchase. One problem I have with it is that sometimes, the USB hub just DOESN'T WANT TO F***ING WORK!!! Biggest improvement to it was peeling off the obnoxiously well glued on g-sync sticker.
I bought a dell u2518d for £60 from my work like a year ago and damn i love this thing. ...thats including my 50% staff discount. to see you spending almost as much for a monitor as i paid for my whole pc makes me feel both awe and a little bit of rage
I picked up the Alienware QD OLED ultrawide during Black Friday last year. Peior to BF, it was $1200. I got it for $800 and its been tbe biggest upgrade I've made to my setup in a long time. It's just completely better than even my high end mini-LED display or anything I've seen since plasma back in the day. It's truly a game changer for gaming on.
I have to say, on my ultrawide OLED, it's not the blacks or the contrast that make the most difference but the screen width. Two full screens with no bezel between them is a real game changer. Dying Light 2 looks spectacular.
Watching movies on an OLED is stunning though.
Got my 1440p ultra wide, 240hz, oled monitor for 600 off. I’ve always hated the monitors that I would get over the years because how the colors were just bad, especially if it didnt have a saturation setting. I’m hoping the OLED will solve all of this for me.
Upgrading your monitor gives you headroom. I'm currently running an MG279Q at 144 Hz. That monitor came out in 2015. Back then I could barely achieve 144 FPS in contemporary titles using respectable settings. It's been almost 10 years,
now I can hit 300 FPS in Apex maxed out. 200 FPS in Fortnite at a touch higher than competitive settings. I need more monitor. The times have changed, the expectations have changed. Everything has changed
the quaility if your videos man, they just keep improving. i loved this one
came from a 1080p 360hz 25'' ips panel to a 14'' laptop with a 120hz oled panel with 1800p... honestly i couldnt be happier, its the best panel ive looked at except for 10k€ tvs in electronic stores
I can't go back now. I use an LG C1 as a monitor and its just miles ahead of anything else other than WLED.
Thanks for talking my out of upgrading. I’m on a 4K 144hz IPS so I bet that is already pretty damn good. 🙏🏼
Thank you so much for making this video. This convinced me to (barely) not upgrade from my 4k 60hz IPS monitor to a 4k OLED monitor.
I upgraded my 10+ years old 24" 1080p 60Hz tft monitor to a 27" 1440p 180Hz IPS monitor for about 230€ (~250 freedom coins) including 19% sales taxes and I freaking love this upgrade
I think I know now why these tech channels say the monitor makes a huge difference if you upgrade like I did
But I can't imagine that an upgrade from my IPS panel to any OLED panel would be nearly as impactful to me😊
Good review for casual gamers who don’t care about framerate, input lag, presentation speed, motion clarity/blur, color spaces and accuracy, HDR, ergonomics, etc.
you already had an amazing monitor. I upgraded from a 1080p 60hz monitor........ to a 200hz ultrawide g-sync monitor (with 1000nit brightness, I like to sit next to a large window). and the difference was MASSIVE
The sad thing is, most people watching this video are watching on non-OLED monitor and cannot see the difference OLED offers. You can only appreciate OLED when you look at it from an OLED monitor.
Cheaper monitor: 'There's a light shining on it so it looks like sh*t' < thumbs down - I mean cmon!
I got the 240hz 2k monitor for like 700 when they where going for like 900 like 8 months ago. I love it. It feels amazing and looks amazing. No permanent burn in yet