Cheap Vs Expensive: Gaming Monitors
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 มิ.ย. 2024
- I compare two monitors at very different price points to what you get for your money.
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"You can just put this one on a box, which helps a lot..." Oh Dawid, you truly understand my cheapness.
Being cheap great no burn in from OLED display if you pause your single player game 😂
@@powerfulshammy You'd have to pause your game for like 4 days straight to get burn in my friend lmao
Maybe even the box it came in...
The monitor even comes in a box. Very handy. 😂
@@Dorraj nah more like a whole ass year (*points at the nintendo switch, wulffden did a video on it*)
4:33 “the 1080 🅱️enis of it”
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The subtitles done us dirty though, it's spelled Pness there lmfaoo. Someone had to have manually added those subs to avoid that problem
Your profile picture fits your comment real well.
😂
What about 3:18 "not fully erect", just after describing that stand as "Brad Pitt".
Whow
More expensive monitors are obviously better, but you really can't beat the value of a $100 monitor. Monitors in this price range are just too good, the market is just amazing right now.
Yeah, a basic 1080p 60hz office monitor used to cost more than that.
Absolutely! There is a huge segment of the market that craves these great, value-filled deals. It's great that manufacturers are still making decent stuff.
I love my dual 27" 1080p sansui monitors. You get ips panels, hdr, multiple port functionality, decent enough built in speakers which helps with multimedia settings plus the usbc. And the best part were both were bought and left money in my pocket after selling my 32" ultragear because my eyes personally cant see much difference between 1080p and 1440p when you have proper colour settings applied and stable frame rates throigh proper optomization
@@twiztedclownthat HDR is not real hdr and looks like ass, IPS displays have awful contrast which is generally fine because the colors and viewing angles make up for it, but pretending that the HDR is usable is hilarious. Ask me how I know.
@@inherentlyflawed IPS displays have better color range and are close to VA for even most of the budget panels now. your just not getting as deep of blacks.
4:34 Wait a minute
3:18 Hold up...
@@seoulglo1999just so much going on
Glad i'm not the only one who noticed this lol
Came to the comments to say something about this, I'm sure he did it on purpose.
i haven't watched a ytp in a long time 🤣 this reminds me of them
Budget monitors can work well! You just need to make sure you know what you're buying. Cheaper IPS displays are not too hard to come by, if you're willing to put another ~$50 down on it.
As for the stand: You can always buy an aftermarket monitor arm. Budget-but-solid ones are way cheaper than Dawid implied. Mine were about $50 each, and have held up for the past 4 years without incident!
Thanks for the in-depth video!
I picked up a Pixio PX7 Prime ~4-5 years back for about $300 and I'm SUPER happy with it. Just read a bunch of reviews and did some research and made sure I could return it, but apart form having lousy HDR, I'm very happy with it for what I could afford at the time. Now I'm looking at a replacement 4K OLED 32" and looks like I need to spend ~$1300 to jump up. Sheesh.
There have been some decent MSI 1080p monitors on sale lately for about the same price as the Koorui budget monitor in the video. You just have to shop around. As for the arm, my son bought mine for Father's Day a couple years ago on sale on Amazon for about $35. I haven't had any issues with it.
I actually have 2 Koorui monitors at 1440p 144hz with IPS panels. They are great. I think koorui is one of those brands where you gotta make sure you do your research before buying.
For sure! So many great budget options an available at the moment. 😃
@@DawidDoesTechStuff Right? Now if only NVMe prices started trending back down again... That would be fantastic!
You can get a VESA monitor stand for way less than $100. It doesn't have to be a swing arm masterpiece.
You can even get a decent VESA swing arm for $30-40 (USD), sometimes less.
I think mine was around $30, and it works fine. The adjustment is a b-word, but once it's set to your liking it isn't really much of an issue anymore.@@TheGumpyGump
Yeah, and if you don't want that, then I've seen some really good monitor stands for the money that give you more storage space on your desk for pens, cables, flash drives, etc.. I just got new 165Hz 24in IPS panels, and thinking of going this route instead of monitor arms.
@@CommodoreFan64 I just got a new 27in IPS. I'm trying to decide between an arm or a stand.
@@TheGumpyGumpI have a Odyssey Neo G8 4k 34 incher and a AW3423DW ultrawide OLED and a dual arm mount. I haven't mounted them yet because this seems like a really stressful way to possibly destroy one or two $1,500+ monitors. :
Just bought a new budget monitor and Dawid uploads on the same day! How lucky 🙂
Nice timing
I have that very same Koorui monitor and I can't fault it, superb value for money, even better as I got it free from Amazon, they sent the monitor with no stand, PSU or cables, I called them to let them know and the nice lady said I can keep it, just buy the bits you need, all told it cost me £30 for it :)
So you paid full price for the monitor, and ended up spending extra for components they forgot to provide you? And you're still happy with that? That is some wild consumer behavior right there.
@@Dorraj didn't you read what he typed out? He got it for free from amazon
@@hazzmati Amazon doesn't just send you free stuff.
@@Dorraj Amazon Vine Program.
It's called getting a refund
Thank you for identifying your monitor measurement tools. I would certainly like to see more videos around monitor benchmarking as it relates to player experience versus cost. Thanks for the great content!
There a few 240 Hz VA monitors that have good response times and don't have ghosting/blurring.
5:16 a 32" 1440p monitor has the same ppi as a 24" 1080p one, so it looks alright.
32 inches is where 4K as a necessity starts for me. 27 inches is the 1440p sweet spot, and 24 1080p..
my eyes aren't good enough to benefit from 4k on a 32 inch screen. I'm old and my eyes are terrible so I bought a big 1440p 32 inch screen so I could see what's on the screen at all. A guy I used to work with was legally blind and he had a 32 inch 1080p TV on his desk as a monitor for a similar reason beck when the rest of us were stuck with 17 inch dell TFT screens at 768p
@@lanelesicWhat you said makes no sense. Having 32 inches at 1440p is exactly the same pixel density as a 24 inch at 1080p. So if you don't like 32 inches at 1440p, you don't like 24 inches at 1080p either.
Understandable, 1440p at 32 inches is better than 1080p. I used a 30 inch 1920x1200 monitor decade and more ago and thought it was the best thing ever compared to my 19" crt 1280x1024 Belinea :D @@misterthegeoff9767
Thats not how it works@@kadrix732
I bought a reasonably expensive "colour accurate" monitor from Benq a couple of years back. I've not really noticed all that much more colour accuracy from it - but I've definitely noticed the light bleed from the back light in a couple of the corners. Nice!
(it's the PD2700Q for anyone interested)
Yeah my most recent monitor that I've had for like 3 or 4 years now has absolutely awful backlight bleed. I will never buy IPS again, I cannot stand how much bleed it has.
Regardless of price, putting a VA panel against an OLED is a ridiculously unfair comparison. Comparing the cheap monitor to something with a VA or IPS panel would be a much more useful comparison.
Definitely. Unless you have the 2 side by side, the average consumer can never tell the difference.
He just comparing the price to what you get.
That 100% sRGB and decent colour accuracy says Dawid should do some Tech Stuff and test the Koorui against an entry level “art” monitor.
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The UFO test is so COOL! 6:25
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@@peterdean653Yes She Does
@@peterdean653 she does what now ?
@@Selvanii You sweet summer child😅.
@@erk_048322 y/o child, but yes
Thanks for the content. Always enjoy your vids. Is there any chance you Could do a video comparing desktop speaker set ups cheapest vs most expensive or something like that?
This was a nice comprehensive video!
the best kind of comparisons
Thanks for answering my question!
Just Dawid being Dawid. He's a silly guy!
He's just never changed it since this was a tiny channel. I like that he stuck with his original one honestly.
I had no idea it was an actual song made by human beings until I heard the words. It's awful but at this point it's his thing
Jesus christ, these people have no respect. Let Dawid use his title card peacefully (which he has been using for years).
The title card makes the video feel homemade, not some corp garbage.
There was a one monitor with VA panel and almost none smearing. It was holy grail of VA panels. And it was old Samsung Oddysey G7, 240Hz, 1440p, VA with Quantum Dots, it was good monitor for good price.
I tried OLED PG27AQN monitor for a few weeks and hated it big time. My room is quite sunny and during the day I had problems seeing the monitor, there is a way to max out brightness, but then in the evening it burns retina. Went with good ol trusty IPS Acer XB3 4k 144hz. it was also $400 cheaper!
3:53 attach the power brick below your desk. Out of the way, doesn't add to bulk of the monitor, doesn't add to heat generation inside monitor case. Latter results in more and more often occurring active cooling, which is annoying as all heck in a silent room
How? With duct tape?
@@samoerai6807 idk what the English word for it is. Tin stripe with holes, rolled up. Cut to desired length, bend shape to power brick and screws to both sides
Great muxic at the end of the video. As usual, great content, sir.
hay Dawid! great video as always! what watch do you have?
Nice video nice explaining
They both work great
Yay a new dawid video
Watching Dawid’s hair grow out is the anime arc I never knew I needed
I've been in the market for a new monitor for a while and was wondering just that. Thanks for the awesome video Dawid!!!!
I watched this video on a monitor. Very educational!
Thanks Dawid!
another Dawid banger video! love to see it.
Great video! I noticed your keyboard in the background. What and where can I find one? Thanks!
Great video Dawid. I'm just curious- you hated the matte coating on the LG 27GR95QE. Even though the Corsair doesn't go quite as bright, it's the same panel- do you have the same problem with whites and the coating on the Corsair? Thanks again for the great video!
nnice perfect timing .... i was just thinking to buy one ... lets peep this out
I have a 1440p curved 32 inch monitor and it looks perfectly fine. I mean sure you will see pixels if you get too close and try to spot them, but if you’re just using it normally then it’s perfectly fine.
Im currently using a Cooler Master GA271. Fantastic monitor for the money, 27" 1440p VA, colours are brilliant, ghosting doesnt seem to be an issue over 30hz. None adjustable stand, but it is eye level where i sit so all good, £140 new, bargain monitor, should give it a shot
I own the corsair monitor and it's fantastic, looks amazing and really smooth.
I tried the GN03. I was impressed by the panel even tho it's also a VA. I played on a older ASUS VA panel 4 years ago and the difference is there. New VA have really improved over the years and it's nice to see really cheap gaming monitor using a good panel.
Great video as usual. Just curious what games did you use to feature the monitors? Looks awesome.
I saw a lot of Helldivers 2
I have a Koorui 27E6QC and I’m very happy with it
For $120 USD, I got a Pixio PX248 Prime, which is a 24" 1080p 120hz monitor. I think it's really good for the price. It's an IPS panel and has decent motion performance, especially compared to the VA monitor in the video. The only thing is I had to return it twice to get one without dead pixels. Would definitely recommend it over the KOORUI 24E6C if you can get one without any defects lol
That just means inevitably you'll end up with dead pixels on this monitor as well lol
@@huskers1278, I hope not lol. Hopefully just manufacturing defects
@GoodGamer3000 *Knock on wood* your good bro 👌
But we can put sonething like a long box at the bottom of the monitor stand and put some long spiker at the front, that might also work.
4:14 That is a nice picker 😜
Im currently rocking a Dell 27" 1080p 165Hz ips display and despite the limitations of that technology and the resolution, im absolutely inlove with the quality of this monitor!!
I live in a very bright part of the world and even despite having my desk right next to a huge window, I almost never use my monitor at 100% Brightness, I keep it at 50% at max, its jst too bright...what makes that even more weird is this isnt even a HDR display.
To clarify, im no fan boy of Dell or any brand, but this display really has surpassed my expectations and until I upgrade my graphics card, I doubt ill be upgrading any time soon.
Hi Dawid, would you consider doing a video on gaming keyboards, some of them out there are silly money (least in the UK they are) and it would be noce to know what to look out for when buying one
I bought an Acer VGO VG240Y M3 with 1080p res, IPS level display and 180hz refresh for about 100 US dollar and honestly I am impressed and I can easily compare it with a monitor with similar specs and costs wayy too much then the one i mentioned. Pretty happy with my purchase.
I've had the same 24 inch monitor for 25 years.
Used to video edit weddings, birthdays, etc. For family and friends.
Still got my spyder too!
1080p forget frame rate, but spent lots of game time over those years.
Can't afford $1,000 for a monitor.
But it keeps me happy. My eyes are older too, so I don't know if I could see the difference... But my gaming laptop is 1080 with 144hz refresh rate. I use that you my gaming now.
I used to use this 32 inch LG Ultragear VA monitor and it had notable smearing issues. Now I have an Odyssey G9 which is also VA but it has no smearing issues that I notice.
I had a 32 inch 1440p VA display from 2019 until 2022. I didn't notice the blurriness that much until I heard Dawid mention it lol. Now I have a 1080p 360Hz IPS screen and sometimes use my 65" 4K 120Hz OLED TV with keyboard and mouse. Love them both! 360Hz is soooo smooth but the OLED is still far more gorgeous
I've had issues with my spyderx on my OLED laptop as well, I think the higher end spyder models support hdr/oled, im not sure that the entry level ones do unfortunately.
I really appreciate the discussion around PPI, because that is a great indicator of how you will perceive the display in general usage. I just started looking at 4K OLEDs and had pretty much determined that 29.5" to 33.5" was about where I wanted to be for my aging eyes. Just got the 4080 Super and my 5 year old 1440p 27: HDR 165Hz panel is starting to be outmatched by my system 78800X3D) and I like pretty games.
I bought 10I bought a 1080p 27” Backlit LCD monitor with 75hz display from Acer for console gaming and it’s pretty good. Especially my table is pretty long, so no ppi problems and it produces amazing colors too.
Honestly it would have been better same panel types were compared. For a cheap ips monitor vs a expensive ips monitor.
Maybe you do have it on your channel already, but I really think it would be good to see a comparison like this between two monitors with the "same" specs but with different price ranges. Typical IPS/VA 1080p/1440p 144hz monitors that you can find with a lot of different prices and no big difference on specs
I think best would be to add cheap, mid range and high end one as usually midrange is where you get the best value and would be interesting to see if there is actually a point of the high end monitors when the midrange offers so much
Bought 2 AOC 24G2U monitors in 2021 for 150GBP each and IPS, 144hz, 24" fits on my desk, great stands for the price adjusts height and rotate, USB HUB, and make me feel confident that I can get some good years out of my 3060ti which i bought around the same time, before worrying about upgrading because 1080p.
I will probably swap to 1 ultrawide higher res display when i next upgrade but I will probably build a whole new pc when i next upgrade too so balance hey. if things go together you can have a good time.
i got that corsair monitor, seem to be the best overall oled in many regards(the new 360hz version probably is a same price replacement.), but only worth it if you use the hdr and you can be in hdr mode all the time on this one.
best value buy i did was 500 dollar 4k 28" ips, cost me a third of what i played for the corsair oled.
ips still is great at input lag and pixel response time, nothing to gain there.
from what i remember there is another koorui monitor similar to this that does have a ips display at a similar price
Monitors are something SOOOO many people overlook, so many people with high end pcs stick with 144-165hz 1440p IPS monitors at most, go to 4k or ESPECIALLY OLED for god sake, its worth it.
No way am I paying $5k for a high end PC and then another $2k+ for a 4K oled..I’d be happy with a high end 1440p ips monitor for less than $1k. The increase in graphic quality does not justify the doubling in price.
@@velocitymg
I think these new 4K OLED 240hz moniters are around $1400, American.
The thing is that's pretty pricey compared to TVs of a similar caliber.
I'm currently using a 4K 120hz OLED 55in TV. It has all the gaming features like all kinds of VRR, amazing image quality, 1ms input lag, and a dedicated PC monitor mode.
Freaking incredible for a TV.
The new monitors cost MORE than my current TV. Sure they are 240hz but that's kind of the only notable improvement. And at a fraction of the size and less features than a TV I don't know why monitors are overpriced in comparison.
I want a dedicated monitor of a similar caliber to my TV, but I just don't think the price on them is worth it. And I also don't want a display with worse image quality than I'm already using. So guess I'll continue just using the TV 😂.
I purchased a cheap 27-inch 1440P monitor with a 165Hz refresh rate on Amazon for my son, and I’m astounded by the quality. Although I currently use a 50-inch TV, the exceptional quality of this affordable monitor has me considering a switch for myself. The display is vibrant and smooth, with deep blacks that are impressively dark, especially given the monitor’s price range.
P.S.: The smearing issue isn’t as pronounced as what’s shown in your video.
Can I ask what model you bought him? And possibly a link?
@@Finwolf29 MG27H7QB it's advertised as 144hz but to our surprise it was actually 165hz.
Great video as always. It depends what do you want to do with your monior and what are your system specs? I have a Samsung Odyssey G7 27" VA QLED curved monitor with 240Hz refresg rate. It has 1ms response time and motion blur reduction(MBR) function. It's perfect for fps games(left 4 dead 2, war zone 2.0 etc). Also it has beautiful colors. I bought for ~$500 and I love it.
Samsung QLED Oddyssey monitors are the only exception to VA having horrible motion performance. In fact, they beat most of the competition with them at the time of release & are still LCD chart toppers.
Would prefer more display ports over hdmi imo
Would be interesting to see you use the Koorui 24E3, it's a 24" 165Hz 1080p monitor but it's IPS and its the same price
I have the OLED Corsair monitor in the video and it was worth every penny. I love watching content on it too.
Another banger from yo boi Dawid, with dat hair smoother than rendering 1080p videos on a 4090.
i have the 27e6qc which is just bigger and 1440p its great for what i needed at the time i intend to grab a better monitor with hdr to main and use it as my backup
I've been using a 24" 1080p pixio VA monitor and I've enjoyed it a lot. 1080p still looks great when the display isn't the size of a movie theater screen
1:48 This is a groundbreaking test that Dawid comes out for rage-quit gamers. Manufacturers should pay abit more attention to this so that when gamers get angry, rage-quit, then bang table, their monitor height won't be affected.
I've found the corsair oled has a slight issue in that the HDMI port doesn't support full 2.1 bandwidth. So running 1440p@240 HDR requires DSC.
I work all day on a 1440p koorui 27" Its actually quite good. I just purchased the 31.5" koorui GN01. Its quite good!!
external monitor power supplies are kind of nice cause you can replace just that part if it goes bad.. but not sure how many people bother to do that vs just buying a new monitor.
Nice! I'm watching this on one of those Xeneon!
The biggest downsides to me are BY FAR the non-uniform greys (try Windows file explorer in dark mode) and judder at lower framerates like 30fps movies.
I don't care about the stand at all though and it's still in the packaging, because I have mounted it on a VESA monitor arm with gas spring.
I tiewrapped the powerbrick to the arm, close to the monitor, so that's nicely tucked away and bought a long IEC cable to run it all the way from the brick through the internal arm cable routing all the way to the outlet.
Oh and about cost of those arms: they are about 100 bucks, but never get obsolete and will last you many different displays over the years: buy once cry once!
3:18 "not fully erect"? Yikes! that's quite the insult for "Brad Pit" 🤣🤣🤣
I have a koorui 27 inch 1440p 144hz monitor. I got it for the same price you got the 24 inch for. It's only a secondary monitor and it lies in the ad about HDR, it literally doesn't have it and it's just a brightness setting on the monitor itself. It's ok though for the price.
I've heard the SpyderX doesn't work well with OLED panels because it doesn't have a correction profile for OLED.
Also, their software sucks and the colorimeters aren't that accurate. I have two SpyderX's and when measuring the same monitor, the first one measures 6200K and the second one 6700K color temperatures...
you should do this again but add in TVs
That was a lot of words to get to the answer of "YES".
could you do a review on the AOC Q27G3XMN or the Cooler Master Tempest GP2711 against the Corsair monitor Xeneon 27QHD240?
I purchased one of these about a year and a half ago: Pixio PX248 Prime Advanced 24" 144Hz FHD 1080p 1ms GTG Fast Nano IPS Gaming Monitor. It's a pretty damn good 1080p monitor that doesn't cost much at all, currently for $120 US on Amazon and it appears to be a heck of a lot better than the Koorui in this video.
can't wait to get my hands on a 42 inch lg c3 next month
I got the 1st one ! I don’t mind it for casual gaming
An informative video? This is new. Was hold my breath for the GT1030 the whole time.
I have the aorus fv43u 144hz 4k VA panel and having a 27inch 75hz IPS 1440p the VA panel without overdrive has little smering IPS never even at almost half refresh rate but with little overdrive I love the monitor special for the 520euro I paid for it on a deal normal price is 750euro a for that price not. Has freesync pro , vrr HDMI 2.1 X2 DP 1.4 and USB c ports playing PS5 and xsx and pc on the display very happy with the purchase.... If I had the money would have brought a OLED 40"+ display but I don't have the money to pay triple and have burn in after a while juist like my S20
It would be good to see how well you can game at the cinema - if you can plug your PC into their projector that is and you can wireless control!
I apologize for the off topic question, but it seems your desk cause the monitors to wobble for just a bit of force. Do you have any trick to get rid of that vibration? (Mine cant even handle a bit more forcefull typing and it's quite nauseating.)
Have you seen the ASUS ROG Swift OLED PG34WCDM? What do you think about it?
It checks every single aspect I was looking for in a gaming monitor
Last year, I snagged an LC UltraGear QHD 27" 27GL83A-B for around $250. Sure, there's a lot better out there, but for the price, I'm very happy with the size and performance.
Fit check, Dawid looking drippy today.
4:33 I see what you did there 😂
Dawid, what would you recommend for 1440p on a budget?
I feel this comparison was stacked from the start as the monitors are 2 different resolutions. You should compare cheap vs expensive in the same weight class to be fair.
Koorui also makes a very good IPS panel for around the same money. The 24E3 that tests *very* well on the UFO motion test and has pretty good color accuracy. I bought it for a traveling LAN build and it did very well.
Side note, anyone recognize the keyboard he has there? Looks like maybe an Akko?
I named my youngest OLED, actually. Figured I'd beat Elon to naming his 23rd child. 😂
That guy is getting flamed
Some context as to what paying more nets you.
27''' is more expensive than 24''' You get a bigger screen. also 1440p is nice on a 27''' which is much nicer than 1080p on 27'' or 24''
1080p is what most consider the bare minimum. 1440p needs a more powerful graphics card especially for gaming to achieve decent fps (something like an AMD Radeon RX 7800 XT is sufficient). for 4k, you need the best graphics card which costs a bomb at current market price which most of us can agree is currently overpriced.
Then you got IPS vs Oleds. Oleds cost more than ips, but tend to have better contrast and HDR. For IPS, you would need good local dimming which many don't have, so HDR crown tends to be won by the oled monitors. For example in midrange ips monitors, you tend to see a lot of fake hdr. There is one exception which is a particular AOC monitor with decent HDR capability, albeit you get the inherent cons of a VA panel as trade off, but still impressive for a mid range price monitor.
Next is high refresh rates. 144hz, 180hz, 240hz and above. The higher you go, the less perceptible benefit. Some studies claim 240hz is still a noticeable difference compared to lower.
Build quality e.g. panel etc and extra features. Does the monitor have issues or not? This is the most important before you even buy the monitor you are looking at. Check the reviews first.
Burn in is a risk especially for oleds. But if you look at MSI monitors, they have features to prevent/reduce the chances of burn ins. So i wouldn't be too worried, but would also advice to be mindful not to do stuff that would cause burn ins over time.
personally i'm more budget minded, so i will get something good which is a good value, and not wade into excessive extravagance especially at insane prices. So i got a mid range 27'''180hz IPS monitor. But if you have the means, go for it e.g. oled 240hz+ 27''' 4k resolution.
The most important thing, is know what exact you are buying, whether it's the improvement you want/need, check if it's worth the price increase and whether it fits into your existing budget.
nice video but i think it would be better to compare displays with the same technology, like cheap va vs a good one.
I'm searching for a replacement monitor that has some kvm features, Once saw one that could split the screen or even have PIP. Hard to find and even moreso when on a budget.
I'm quite happy with my Asus TUF gaming 27" curved monitor, which I've had for almost two years, and it was only 128 bucks. I did spring for the warranty though.
Oh guy, my 34" curved model is awesome 😮 it was expensive but hey its awesome 😊
I was lookin at Koorui when my old monitor started to zombiefy. Then I did see mentions of it dying in reviews and decided to just borrow some money to get a Viewsonic 75hz one for slightly more.
I mean my old monitor was LED 60hz so a IPS 75hz was a big difference.