STW #97: Rob Van Dam in the WWE
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- On this episode: ROB! VAN! DAM! This week Bruce examines the entire run of "Mr. Monday Night" for hours on end. From training with the Sheik, to how he got into WCW, to why he left WCW, visiting Japan to fully become Rob Van Dam, finally getting into ECW, and the big break being featured on Monday Night RAW in 1997. You've got to hear Bruce and Rob's take on Paul Heyman's "management style" at the time, the first time Rob met Vince, when the WWF made overtures to sign Rob the first time, who actually arranged the meeting with JR, what the perception of Rob was based on the 1997 run, why Rob got to keep his name in the WWF, why he got the major push in 2001 including a win over Austin, what match changed Vince's perception of him, the little details Rob thought separated the WWF from ECW, who tried to undermine Rob in the back, who Rob had heat with over changing finishes, who Stephanie thought Rob should be more excited about facing, what advice Shane gave him that he thought was basically asking him to kiss ass, when he wanted to play "pick a hand" with Bruce and why, the infamous Tribute to the Troops story, the time Johnny Ace through him out of a meeting, the time he almost slapped Vince, what title Rob misses the most, of course the full rundown of what happened in the car with Sabu when he was champion, what Rob thinks could have been done differently, and how he thinks the company screwed him out of a major check on the way out. Don't miss the hilarious story of Bruce smoking with Rob, who reminds Bruce of Rob Van Dam today, whether or not RVD is a Hall of Famer, and much more! With a show this long, with this much detail, this is indeed the "Whole F'N Show!"
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Skip blah blah 17:20.
Doctor Bastard thanks doc
Doctor Bastard You mean the free plug for the network show. Lol
Na i like to listen too everything
Thx sir.
Thanks
"The rumor and innuendo is that everytime HHH showed up to catering he demanded to pedigree Rob Van Dam" I lost my fucking mind. 😂😂🤣🤣
Peter Sandas Died 😂
You know there’s truth behind that. Trips hated RVD because when he finally joined WWF/E people in the locker room gravitated towards Dam & Trips was jealous. The promo on Raw where Dam rips in to Trips & vice versa was unscripted. I’ve listen to Rob shoot on Trips & yet here Bruce kinda makes out it was just business. Trips is a moron & lets be honest if he wasn’t married to Steph, he’d never have had the run he had from 2001. He returned after 8 months out with his knee injury & came back to a big ovation. But if it wasn’t for marriage by 2005 Trips would have been gone.
Lmao
I like Bruce & believe him on most things. However it really disappoints me to hear people say that RVD "wasn't over". The guy came in to the company as part of a heel group & got some of the best crowd reactions at that time. Before they knew if he was even going to WWE he was put in the first Legends of Wrestling video game, solely based on his ECW career. RVD was over before he even came to the WWE, & its really sad & pathetic for Triple H & Vince to say that he wasn't over enough to be put in certain spots. No one in their right mind would think that. Triple H was jealous of Rob, plain & simple.
Stephanie probably had a real crush on rvd and hhh never has the balls to approach his colleges face to face so yeah he helped bury rvd
Yea what a crock. I was 8 in 2002 and RVD and Rey were the 2 most over non originals.
iirc Legends of Wrestling was supposed to be Acclaim's third ECW game, but then ECW went under during development, and they had to rewrite the game by plugging the leftover free space on the game's roster with alumni wrestlers who weren't signed to the WWF at the time, and RVD was the only notable ECW personnel who was still a free agent during the final stages of the game's development, so Acclaim kept him in after the game was complete and set to release.
Imo he needed to stay heel and needed a mouthpiece..cough** fonzie.
RVD
RVD was so unappreciated by corporate and HHH. Seriously. Him and Booker T just never got that stardom level they deserved.
Facts
"Corporate" wasn't even a thing then you mark ass casual
I think it's funny that you had Austin, Rock, Taker, and Angle among others who seemed to be so giving to Rob, but HHH seemed to be the only one to really have the issue. Says a lot.
Bruce: "what is wrong with looking good?" Conrad: "Well when you figure out how to do that, let me know!" LMFAOOOOOOOOOO... Hilarious!
#savage
Him bringing up so much that hhh booked himself over rvd constantly is killing me haha. Love this stuff
He should have been one of if not the biggest star of WWE in the 2000's. Looking at his matches with Jerry Lynn when he was a younger guy, he showed that if they'd used him with the very top guys he could have had spectacular 30 minute main event matches with the top guys.
RVD vs. Jerry Lynn for the TV title at (I think?) Living Dangerously 99 was one of the best matches I've ever seen...if it's the one I'm thinking of, they go for 20 or 25 minutes with a flawless match and Lynn is declared the winner by decision. Lynn demands for the match to restart because he doesn't want to win by decision and RVD takes it after maybe 5 minutes, and it's incredible. These dudes do not get enough love for their seriously hype series of matches that go way beyond the standard ECW thing.
100%
Yeah, Rob was great. Like a high flying Brett hart. Natural charisma, good catch wrestling, high spots are great.
Aaa!
Pronouns pal…..god damn
RVD my number 2 favorite wrestler of all time only behind Great Muta. When I was a kid I stayed up until 3 AM to watch ECW, that's the only time they showed it. The Whole F'N Show!!!
I would wake up at 3 am to watch ECW too!!! Great times!!
Same here. 2 am on the Spanish channel for me!!
The first moonsault I ever saw was the Great Muta...green mist! Red mist!! Loved watching Muta!! 👍🤢🤮
@@POW1E19 dam that late? I didnt know about ecw until I got older I was watching wwf most of the time cause I only had those networks that showed raw and smackdown
The smoke in the background for RVD is a fantastic touch. In my opinion, Rob is one of the coolest guys the business has ever seen. His promos were always cool. His in-ring work was absolutely world class and as innovative as anyone’s ever has been. Out of the ring he’s funny, personable, charming and one genuinely nice guy. It’s tough to not like him, as seems to be the sentiment of the people that he worked with over the years.
hhh reign of terror
buried rvd!!!!!! raw 2002-2005 dark boring ages of RAW! as hhh on top
The whole fuckin show RVD !
Thanks fellas wasn't too fond of recent topics but you got me back especially on 4/20 lol
The 420 Leg Drop explanation given to Vince and relayed to Cole is probably one of the funniest wrestling stories I"ve ever heard. 4 legs and the combined shoe size is 20 (8 + 12). Hahahahaha. How did Vince believe that?
RVD was the man in the late 90's early 2000's. I still remember being psyched for RVD Jeff Hardy at Invasion and they stole the show. Classic match. Still bugs me that Shane Mcmahon stole the Van Terminator.
I'm glad Conrad calls out HHH in this one. I stopped watching for a while when HHH was always champ. It got way too predictable and the matches weren't that great. WWE fucked up by not pushing more of the WCW and ECW guys instead of burying them.
I could see how the whole weed arrest ruined everything. When I was younger I was a huge fan of the ECW guys and wondered why some like Raven didn't get pushed more. Now I get it. You can't have people all fucked up on drugs as the face of a billion dollar company.
Shawn Michaels was completely trashed on drugs during his time on top - times do change but if someone is good enough - especially back then - their issues would be overlooked and actively suppressed. That said - it was only weed. RVD stopped doing any other drugs long before that.
@Aaron Shane's a queef
This is how you stay in WWE good grace's don't say anything bad about Hunter!
As soon as rvd enters royal rumble hhh pedigree's his ass
I still can't help but laugh at 25:19 when I hear Bruce Prichard say "He was the shiz-nit." about Rob Van Dam.
To this day, that part still makes me laugh...
RVD had a very underrated 2001.
TSC News - The Sports Courier he got wrestler of the year that year. Not that underated
jossoid Oh I recall him getting recognition in PWI in 02. Both great RVD years!
@@jossoid No he didn't.
He was arguably the most over guy on the roster back then.
9Kmkmo
I love these biography shows. Waaaaay better then focusing on payperviews.
47:00 "Has a run with the ECW Title" Uh no he didn't, he had a run with the ECW TV Title for hundreds of days. Never had the world title until it was WWE/ECW
"Why do people vilify Vince?" "Dude, this is gonna screw with my marriage!" "We make MOVIES, DAMMIT!"
Wrestlemania 19 shouldve been hbk vs rvd dream match for the world title......right time for rob van dam crowning moment he was super over had tha 7-11 commercial and 2 RAW commercials and if you ask anybody outside wwe triple h or rvd most are definitely gonna pick RVD.....
Matter fact RVD wasnt even on wm19🤔 wow smh imagine if cm punk was left off wm28
@@GD-1982 his tag team match with Kane was on the card then moved to Heat. By looking at the rest of the card, that was the right call.
However, RVD should have been in a much bigger match at Mania 19.
I hope Bruce Prichard & Conrad Thompson can start recording future episodes of this podcast the way they recorded this one, for example.
I like the smoke background in the video. Nice touch for RVD.
Nobody flies HIGHER than ROB VAN DAM...
God did
I feel like it all comes down to RVD's lack of mic heat.
His character worked, but it had limited range, and he wasn't ever a storyline powerhouse. His push with Rick Flair and HHH was about the best he could ask for, but wasn't able to take his character to the next level.
A perfect example of how in WWE mic skill and character will take you farther than athletic prowess alone.
You can only be a five star athlete for so long. But with great character skill you can become a Rick Flair, or Mick Foley. And that's how you move up on a big way.
Sooner or later your body is going to give out, and if you don't have the mic skills to back it up you have very little future in the company.
The reason Shawn got so far is because when his body couldn't keep up with his old style, he could transition into a storyline powerhouse. Rob just didn't have that.
Probably would have been better for him in Japan, where they really care about the skill and athletic prowess above all.
RVD was resistant to learning how to work with the WWE creative process. Understandable in that he didn't like the storyline ideas they were trying to go with, but ultimately, you have to work WITH them and be less stubborn. IMO he was too stubborn and didn't do his part to help earn their trust.
happy that Daniel Bryant gave ufc fighter diego sanchez credit for stealing that "yes!" chant
Been saying that for year's.
1:32:10
Triple H buried RVD to Vince
Thanks Bruce !!
Id love to have a toke session with "RVD". I bet he has stories for days.
Happy 420 MOTHERFUCKERS. Just about to spark up and listen.
Stony Plain Heatbag Ummm...how old are you? 12? Time to grow up kiddo...
cool orb video on your page Billy. LOL. look everybody. its some pathetic loser on the internet trying to be a sjw.
Stony Plain Heatbag AWWW THE BIG BABY IS TRYING TO BE TRENDY AND RIDE THE WEED BANDWAGON....MAN UP, YOUR TO OLD TO BE TRYING TO SHOW OFF AND SOUND COOL...IT'S NEVER GONNA HAPPEN FATASS, STOP WHINING AND THROWING BABY TAMTRUMS..
Stony Plain Heatbag Hahahaha gonna cry? C'mon, cry for me...hahahha
Stony Plain Heatbag Poor little troll, tried to sound cool and ended up getting a verbal beat down...be glad it's only verbal to...
Funny how Bruce and Conrad seem so much happier and into the podcast back then lol
“The Whole Fucking Show” intro for ECW is one of my favorite intros of all time. Definition of badass
It's clear Paul hated rvd. Paul knew bigger star way more over better all round perform. Sad rvd should of been a 10 time world champ but Paul shove 6 feet of dirt of rvd wwe run and those think Paul will run wwe someday I hope not. Rvd is proof
William Morey
Karen, Kurt’s wife “speaking out” is Kurt’s fault. He needed to get his woman in check. Tf do you know about “working”. You’re just having an emotional reaction to your man getting a little hurt in a WRESTLING match. That doesn’t need to be expressed.
420 leg drop
You heard the story behind that gimmick for him to use it in the WWE? Lol was too funny cause Vince didn't want him calling it 420 due to MJ.
Bruce: take it from an ex-exotic dancer (and current superstar sleeper in self written and performed music and as a kick-ass novelist):
Naked is when you DON'T want to be seen sans clothes.
Nude is when you DO want to be seen (or don't mind being seen) without clothes.
Thus we have "Nude Models" rather than Naked Models and Nudist Camps, instead of Naked Camps, and Nude Beaches*, instead of Naked Beaches.
*And, no. I don't mean "Beeches".
I have a picture with Rob Van Dam from a TNA show in Brooklyn.....
37:44 1st time vs jeff hardy on Raw, Ecw 1st Ppv Mr. Monday night
I love how Bruce immediately clams up when they get to RVD's first Royal Rumble. If you listen very intently with the volume turned up all the way, you can hear his butt hole pucker as he struggles to come up with excuses for why something happened that does not fit at all with the prior trajectory of RVD - after previously stooging himself off by admitting HUNTOR didn't like him.
Chuck Norris was out waaaay before JcVD
JCVD was never on the same level as Stallone . Nor was he ever on the same level martial arts action star wise as Chuck Norris .
He said he was Norris before Norris! Do these guys know how long chuck been out? 🤦🏻♂️
Rob Van Dam smoked me out at my highschool when TNA performed at Amsterdam NY. He talked all about his movie Wrong Side Of Town.
comrad acts like triple h shouldnt win matches cause hes with stephaine at that time he was a great heel champion and worked his ass off to get there it wasnt time for rvd to be the champion and when he did get there he blew it
I find it so funny the people that come on here and complain about a FREE show.........FREE!!! Lol
Dude kenny omega is not even close to the best in the world.. Hes not better then okada or aj..thats just for starters
That was my question @ 3:40:10
Yep, I remember they cheesed RVD out of both belts all because of him getting stopped for some weed. I know it was a publicly traded company and all, but I doubt Vince would've done the same for 1996-1997 Shawn Michaels when he was on all the pills or gimmicks he was taking then. I was mad about that, but whatever.
Perfect timing #Mr.420 #Mr.MondayNight
Happy 420
Sly Carey yay a 420 post where 2 internet bad ass's ain't fighting trying to seem tough 😂
Sly Carey ha
Well looks like I'm getting the WWE network again ... you think maybe Tony and Conrade will get a show also ? #WCW
Chris Deavers No way.
I thought Austin should’ve teamed with RVD at Mania X8 against the Outsiders, their history in 2001 made it an interesting team up and Rob was over enough to hang with the other 3, holding down an obvious star that could make you $$ makes no sense.
the thumbnail picture! to this video! is F'N!! hilarious!!!!!..... Hahahaha!!!.. Lolz!!!.. ; )
Do a WCW invasion show please
Joker they just released the WCW Invasion episode! Check it out. Great Listen!
Only the pvv invasion
I love it when they talk about shit that sucked.
Conrad ask's Who did HHH like @ the time & who did he feel that should go over? The answer is that HHH thought that HHH should be put over. I don't get how HHH & Vince couldn't see that RVD was over. The guy was getting huge pops every match ever since the first time he ever came out in the WWE & putting on great matches. What's not to see?
I think ive said this alot, but Im SOOOO happy I found out about STW w/Bruce! Really enjoy the show and look forward to new content every week, thank guys!
1:44:03 😂😂😂
Chuck Norris was a huge star a decade before anybody had ever heard of Jean Claude Van dam, get your facts straight Bruce..
Amen
RVD was the action hero of wrestling. They dropped the ball in 2001. He could of been a major player.
Bruce and Conrad did everything but ask Mr. McMahon if he wanted them to warm up there lips before they pressed them against his ass...
big fan of the show
Bruce- It’s his team
Conrad- he didn’t lay down
Conrad was really obnoxious in this episode.
bertmustin I mean he’s not wrong though.
*every episode
Hhh just gave me a pedigree
Rob is that you? How you doing, buddy!
😂 Rob ☯️🤼♀️
RVD....one of the best wrestlers I've seen
RVD is not the only wrestler who did not want to Job, it feels like every wrestler ever had an issue with jobbing at one point.
He was big.... he was asian... he was big lol.. he had a good lookin wife...
He was big.. lol
Was that Conrad Thompson saying "Fuck you, Bruce!" at 2:54?...
1:44:03 Bruce gets half hot.
RVD this dabbs for you!!!
👄💨💨💨💨💨💨💨
Nice 👍🏾✌🏾️🌿💨
😤
They should have never put WCW and ECW together during the invasion angle . The Invasion ppv could have been amazing having WWF vs WCW, WWF vs ECW and WCW vs ECW matches. Also WWF should have had a WCW show and ECW show on the air during this time because the fact that both had folded at the time made this angle weak. It was not an invasion it was just guys that WWF picked up.
Idk I'm thinking bruce is covering for Triple H... Stephanie crushing on rob then Rob enters royal rumble at 29, gets pedigree'd then tossed the F*ck out lol..
Jim Cornette impersonation without the word Fuck. Fuck Censorship!!!
R.v.d., stone cold, and trish stratus all have same birthdays
Tyson's hair isn't from picking wtf 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Flair fought Edge at Elimination Chamber PPV for the championship.
Someone from Vancouver please
Is there an out of order jukebox or was everybody messing with Bruce ?
I'm watching you Szatkowski..alllllllways watching!
i am grateful to hear an in-depth breakdown about RvD in the Federation. A lot of Bruce defending, Hunter this is always a great bonus lol. Perfect day to cover Rob thanks guys.
Great
Im glad you guys got on the network , and for everyone asking for watch along episodes im sure the network execs are aware that whatever shows are coverwd on the podcast are among the top viewed on the network ,that bein said i trust you guys have good ideas coming soon
Well they did take dumps in peoples bags so Paul wasn't totally wrong...
Almost 20mins in and yall have been more worried about selling the show than doing the show 😕
3:40:11
"he would've done great in hollywood" i guess you never saw 3 headed shark attack. no, he cant act
Never seen that movie but his acting does indeed suck. Maybe if he got an acting coach and someone plan his fight scenes for him, he could have done okay in his prime. I think RVD was so well liked because he was the action hero of wrestling.
Had to roll up for the rewatch...I know Mr. Monday Night would approve!
HAPPY 420 dayyyy!!!
Well,you know...
RVD should’ve gone thru with the Steph angle
if you're not sixteenth you're last!! greetings from the best city in the world Buffalo
Bills 2 Superbowl
Daniel Bryan stole the yes chant from Diego Sanchez…
Daniel Bryan stole the yes chant from Diego Sanchez…
RVD 4:20 RVD 4/20
RVD 4-20 RVD 420
RVD 4x20
Vince had as much to do with "E-C-Dub!" chants as the moon does with how much your lawn grows.
They had a very weird relationship in the 90's. I'm sure Vince and Friends would like to fellate themselves over ECW's success but that's due almost entirely to the talent and to Heyman's machinations - until he inadvertently helped kill it.
Just as the moon pulls the tides in the oceans, it also pulls upon the subtle bodies of water, causing moisture to rise in the earth, which encouragesgrowth. The highest amount of moisture is in the soil at this time, and tests have proven that seeds willabsorb the most water at the time of the full moon.Aug 23, 2018
@@carolynbuckley8733 I appreciate this comment.
They was pulled over in my hometown of Ironton..
there were no planes bruce. you know that. grip shakes.
Did they ever do a show about the Smackdown after 9/11?
WoW. Love hearing and learning these back stories. Thank You for sharing!
The Van Dam enator was a badass move RVD had ton of talent but his gimmick was corny I think
RVD was the whole fuckin show
Bruce and Conrad still doing it?
These podcasts have become the highlight of my week Keep them coming boy's R.V.D WAS AWESOME
Pat Rose was married to my aunt Karen.
Get the damn hands up 😂 love Rob