STW #8: The Radicalz
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ธ.ค. 2017
- On this episode: In January 2000, Eddie Guerrero, Chris Benoit, Perry Saturn & Dean Malenko shocked the industry when they jumped from WCW to WWE, putting another nail in the coffin for WCW. Bruce and Conrad take you behind the controversial moment that would forever change WWE and WCW.
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"I'm not listening to you cheat on me" cracked me up 😂😂😂
32:44
Thank you
It's funny as hell that they bleeped out Snuka's name..😂
90% chance that WWE asked them to not mention him, 10% it was the family.
The crazy thing is they put him in the hall of fame the hypocrisy is unreal
What Conrad said could be taken as slander. I belive this was recorded before the newer case trial etc . He was stating it as fact vs hear say for example.
@@warwickben can y’all elaborate so I know exactly what to search for
@Fatimah Ockman sure it does lol.
loved when Eddie stole JBL"s rims lol
Thank you for your insight Bruce.
Love the show!! Big fan. Ive loved the business all my life and love getting into the workings of the business and what bruce has done in his career. Its a great show
listening to this in a time where Jeff Jarrett has just done a bit with Elias and Road Dogg, and is also a WWE Hall of Famer. Great call Bruce!
I'm still not sure where the F Conrad gets his massive ego from
son-in-law of flair. has 5 of the most popular wrestling podcasts. holds major events for the industry. i'm not saying he should have an ego but he also isn't some slap dick
@@mox19380 also has a very successful business outside of wrestling. he's a fan who wants answers and tries to get the answers for us listeners too...your right...not a slapdick
I love eddie guerrero hes my all time favorite wrestler .
Hearing you talk about Eddie at the end made me laugh & cry from one minute to the next. Thanks for sharing all that.
A review of the Radicalz first year in WWF
1. Chris Benoit- Won The IC Title three times, had a great feud with Chris Jericho, challenged the Rock for The WWF Title at Fully Loaded and Unforgiven, was an upper mid carder by the end of 2000.
2. Eddie Guerrero- Won the European Title and the IC Title, had a very entertaining run with Chyna, he would break up with Chyna and reform The Radicalz.
3. Perry Saturn- Won the Hardcore Title twice and the European Title, he gets paired with Terri Runnels, and reforms The Radicalz with Benoit, Eddie, and Malenko.
4. Dean Malenko- Won The Light Heavyweight Title twice, had a great match with Scotty Too Hotty at Backlash, he would turn into a ladies man and do jobs for Lita, Ivory, and Jacqueline.
To me, this is the episode that “made” this show. Great stuff.
I agree. This was the first BIG topi that they did that got many viewers to be loyal watchers.
Same here man
I can't wait to hear a full episode of Both Eddie Guerrero and No Way Out 2004!!!!! Bruce talking about Eddie Guerrero when he passed made me cry!!!!! God I miss Eddie Guerrero
Found these old leaked wrestler salaries online just for Conrad:
''Radicals Chris Benoit, Eddie Guerrero, Dean Malenko and Perry Saturn all left WCW in January 2000 and signed three-year contracts with the WWF. Benoit, whom WWF management believed had the most potential of the four, was signed to a $400,000 annual downside guarantee. Benoit certainly earned more then that in 2004 when he held the WWE World Title for five months. At the time of his death, his downside had risen to $500,000 per year. Guerrero, Malenko and Saturn each recieved $250,000-per-annum downsides when they signed with the WWF in January 2000.''
From Powerslam (UK) magazine 10 years ago. Seems like they could be pretty accurate.
Meltzer definitely said “They changed The plans after I reported it” before
Dion Martin Yes he definitely has
Fuck lying Dave meltzer
@@bostonsportsfan9128 not much into reporters are you?
@@snoopyfod1807 He is not a reporter, he has lied and made shit up and he is biased. I hardly call him a actual Journalist who has his favorites.
Meltzer is a total lying douchebag
Did they check with Mike Graham first, to see if they had drawn a dime?
He booked a lot of shit and drew huge in FLA 🍤 dick
Mike Graham couldn’t draw a dime even if he has a pencil and paper
Well the evidence shows he was right, not just in WCW either but also the WWF. Out of the group shown here Eddie had the most potential though. He had some color, the other 3 though, especially Dean and Saturn couldn't become draws period.. Benoit was an A+ wrestler though, and Eddie was an A or A-
love how Conrad just blows off HHH finishing a match with a blown quad, The pain would be immense and HHH deserves huge credit for his level of dedication, look how Nash reacted to the same injury (which is how 99% of people would react though lol)
Conrad is just jealous Flair likes HHH better thats all.
@feelings Are Not Arguments too much muscle with weak tendons.....a sign of roid usage.
RIP Nancy and Daniel Benoit. Shit still devastates me to this day.
May they rest in piece and Chris burn in hell
Benoit is a tricky subject, however I try to separate the ills of the person vs the entertainer when talking about a Hall of Fame. To keep a talent like Benoit out of the WWE HOF is to damage the HOF because it clearly becomes not about actual careers, but what people will look the other way on personally with a guy vs another guy. I think our understanding of mental health, in combination with drug use, may have us viewing people like Benoit in a different light in a decade or so...I would say similar to the way we look at drug addicts today vs 30 years ago. Sad situation all the way around and certainly a deal that puts things into perspective even years later.
He deserves to go in
I can separate chris Benoit the wrestler and chris benoit the human being. I have no problems at all watching his matches. He undoubtedly was 1 if the best of all time. A damn shame he did wat he did In his last few days of his life and tarnished his legacy.
Been 13years and i still tear up.
eddie guerrero probably will go down as one of the most entertaining and excellent workers ever. pound for pound he may be the greatest worker/entertainer ever. inventive, imaginative, always progressing, never leaning on old gimmicks
Who would've thought we'd see Dominic again over a decade later?
I did, I called it on the day of the event. I said 'One day, that boy will be fighting Seth Rollins at Summerslam in his debut match' and unbelievably, it came true.
500 extra points for Bruce giving the Charlie Chan reference when talking bout Konan..all but 5 people got it including me haha.
Sometimes Bruce is full of shit. But you can tell how much he loved Chris and how hard it is for him to talk about it. He wanted to just change the subject so bad
Jokers Improviganza Conrad is really an asshole at times and this episode proves it
More Meltzer hits at the start, pushes this 4 star subject to 5 stars, great solid show 5/5
Saturn was the only tattooed wrestler to pull off wearing a dress 👗
And droz
No, no they didn't! Santino Marella, Gold Dust all got over doing that crap, look at their careers, joke
@@kendallfleming5858 Goldust never wore a dress. You're thinking of Brian Pillman.
@@FIREBALLER100 images.app.goo.gl/TiRJhJqYdvPrfqCS7
@@FIREBALLER100 No sir, I just provided a link proving he must certainly did wear a dress. Now he didn't wear it as a consistent gimmick, but he did on more than 5 different occassions. Vince essentially buried Santino and Saturn when this took place. Gold dust got away with it because it fit his gimmick over all. Saturn was a good wrestler but the dope was his down fall. Santino was good but he was too small for Vince
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Papa bless 🙌
Thank you
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Thanks
Perry Saturn is one of my favorite wrestlers of all time. Was an Army Ranger too.
Dominators were great
He also saved a girl from getting raped
He was on of my favourites to growing up but go look at him now it’s sad wouldn’t be surprised within the next year he’ll be dead
At that height really?
Hall of fame if Trump can get in Saturn can he was in a bad place would love wwe to help these guys out a bit doing that for him would mean the world guy was great yes wasn't massive in wwe but played a part in the radicalz yes it's a shame that group won't get inducted for benoits actions shame on ttyhe other 3
I had always thought that Vince was wearing the neckbrace because that was not long after Nailz was stopped from strangling him. Seriously.
And, Jeff Jarrett is in the hall of fame, haha.
A rib on all the guys who deserve it more
Triple H burying Benoit and also Tazz is so obvious. Conrad is spot on with that observation.
Vince, macho Man, dusty, Bruce has got the best impressions
His Cornette and Heyman impressions are awesome too
The beep is Jimmy Snuka
Benoit was given a perfectly fine title run, Mania til Summerslam isn’t a short run in modern wrestling and he had Triple H and Shawn to share the load of carrying Raw while he was asked to represent the title by doing what he did best - wrestle so his weaknesses on the mic weren’t highlighted. Realistically that’s the best he and his fans could’ve hoped for.
Eddie’s run, in comparison, was done dirty.
I agree
I've seen people complain about Benoit only having the belt 5 months. Steve Austin's longest title reign was 5 months.
We need to put a bow on this and get to the Radicals...Dave Meltzer says...
I love this episode. Conrad was pushing the shit out of Bruce when it came to Dave M. Lmao. Classic
Not sure how thats entertaining. I came to hear Bruce's view on his career, not have some snot nose kid that married Ric Flairs daughter push his head futher up Dave Meltzers ass lol.
@59:50
Whose name are they beeping out?
used to see perry at the gym on long island alot with taz...prob around 96 /97...perry was perry...(not a bad thing) ...they trained hard
That story with Eddie's mom, talk about working yourself into a shoot lol
I CAN SAY THIS.....
I WAS IN ATTENDANCE BOTH TIMES BENOIT WON THE "BIG GOLD" BELT.....
SOULED OUT 2000 (CINCINNATI)
WRESTLEMANIA 20
(NEW YORK)
I can say this: cap lock is not your friend.
1:44:00. Conrad is dumbfounded that the door isn't shut on someone like a Jeff Jarrett and can't fathom Vince would ever welcome him back. Bruce says the door is never shut on anyone. And, the 2019 Rumble #2 entrant, Double J.
Conrad said, "he's dead" lmao!!
I'm very excited that Bruce was rehired for creative.
It's hard to believe that August will be 3-years that the show has been on. It doesn't seem it.
Their is a really insane but intriguing theory that Kevin maybe possibly had some to do with a certain persons death
all legends especially Benoit
1:43:58
And Double J has came back now 🤣
enough about Benoit.. Eddie was hands down the best wrestler among them.. Benoit would have even said that..
sinnizster Eddie had the best mic skill's and charisma of all of them too
I think Malenko was the best wrestler, but i think that Eddie and Chris were better overall entertainers
@@skincarver1797 Eddie did have it all he had some of the best facial reaction's. The other 3 were good technically but pretty boring otherwise. There's a lot of musician's who are great technically but don't make good music.
Nope gotta disagree with you there. As much as I love Eddie and he's one of my all time favorites alongside Benoit, Chris was just much more technically proficient and could wrestle like no one else's business. In Eddies book, he praises Benoit so much and viewed him as a brother and a mentor of sorts who taught him a lot in the ring. Benoit was the better wrestler, but the reason why Bruce Prichard says Guerrero emerged as the biggest star of the 4 was because he was a great entertainer. Don't get me wrong he was amazing in that ring and once again he is one of my influences to get in the business, but Eddie could captivate an audience like no one else's business and he was so fucking good at making you love him or hate him. Basically he was the overall package whereas Benoit as mentioned on this podcast was a wrestler's wrestler; one of the greatest to ever lace a pair boots and a person who got shit done in that ring and I guarantee you that if it wasn't for the tragedy, he would be viewed the same way or maybe even in higher regard than Eddie is being viewed as now.
Great podcast and episode!
How did they fight from underneath when they joined DX after they all got beat
Thanks to Bruce and Conrad for touching on Chris. You can feel Bruce's uncomfortableness (if that's a word) and i'm glad when that part of the show ended. RIP to the Benoit Family.
Get the the Radicalz dammit LOL 😆
I can't friggin wait for Conrad and Bruce to have Meltzer on the show. Wait no, that'll be a handicap match. I know they say they don't have guests, but get Meltzer and Tony Schiavone on. Can't friggin wait.
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Shane Douglas would have been a perfect mouthpiece for these guys.
I just started listening to these recently and have been listening to 83 weeks for awhile now as well. Idk about anyone else but it’s really annoying to me when Conrad will drill into Bruce or Eric for the smallest detail they get wrong or accuse them of making stuff up or lying etc…..yet he never calls out his best buddy Dave Meltzer for basing his entire “news” letter off of second hand info, gossip, and his own opinions/agenda. Dave has blatantly lied, got stuff wrong, printed some of his “inside sources” opinions as factual info for his entire career. Conrad will quickly gloss over or completely ignore something that Dave gets 100% wrong or some opinion that Dave has but basically states it as a “known fact backstage”. It’s really scummy the kinda stuff dave has done for years. He’s negatively impacted careers and reputations, ruined angles, created false narratives and drama, all while calling himself a journalist 😂. He’s a gossip columnist who claims to be an expert in a business he’s NEVER been in. He’s proven what Eric and Bruce have always said about him is true with how he’s covered AEW. Verbally blowing Tony Khan, the young bucks, Kenny Omega, Chris Jericho, Moxley and the company in general. They name moves after him and treat him like a real sport journalist, so he glorifies their AWFUL writing, booking, and wrestling. He viciously attacks anyone who says negative stuff about his AEW butt buddies and he buries people like CM punk or Cornette and Bischoff for telling the truth about the juvenile EVPs and the way that company is ran. When Bischoff supposedly let talent run the show, Dave blasted him for his inexperience and said the inmates ran the asylum. When that same thing but worse is happening in AEW, Dave says Tony is a creative genius and mostly everything they do is amazing. Meltzer is a dirtbag who gives bad reviews to/prints lies and rumors about the people who don’t give him the time of day. Meanwhile…For all his “friends”, he’s gives them 5 star match ratings and writes stories to make them look good and bury their competitors. I wish Conrad would grow some balls and stop being such a Meltzer fanboy.
they should put what min mark they actually start talking about the main topic. on this podcast it was like 30 mins in until they did 🤦♂️
Eddie Torres but they talk about a lot of good shit in those first 30 minutes
@@TheScottchristophers no they don't.
Just follow up on the previous episode. Sometimes it's a few minutes sometimes its longer
Waaah
Well we want to hear about the questions from the week before not all bout u lol
were saturn and eddie supposed to beat the NAO?
Ok well Conrad is calling bullshit bc they all lost didn’t go over well I agree with Bruce bc look at flip side WCW had 2 superstars that were not hogan that were not sting or flairs level of superstar level but shook entire roster up with baseball bats... dude u can’t shit in both ways of bringing in new talents
Triple wasnt drawing during his reign of terror. So why is he a 14x champion?
He married to the boss daughter so yeah Vince is going to push his son in law.
Bruce cannot defend the fact that the WWF did take pleasure in killing WCW & ECW top guys when they first came in. If Eddie and Benoit had come in strong it wouldn't have taken so long to build them back up.
Yeah, I think Booker T and RVD's popularity caught them offguard and they had to stop killing those guys' pushes.
Wow half these are dead. RIP... one of the others is a recovering addict and the other has dropped off the face of the Earth.
ok Eddie and Chris are the dead ones...Saturn is the recovering addict...you DO know Dean works for WWE ....right?
Nice Link yes I know but he's not in the spotlight or even on camera. That's what I meant.
Not on camera?! Gosh, the poor bloke. As good as dead, I'd say...
Seriously, don't be so lurid.
James40000 ok. I'll put it on a different way... NOT IN THE PUBLIC EYE. You ok with that??? Jeez touchy much?
Yes, You do seem a bit touchy- it's all that extra punctuation; makes me think you've got a vein bulging from your neck. Perhaps you should take a long bath or have a lie down with some herbal tea?
the monday between was taped so the couldnt debut until the next live monday
I love Conrad, he's a great host and really grills Bruce sometimes, but he can also be argumentative just for the sake of stirring the pot.
From out wards Bruce is very unlikeable but listen to him his honest story's from inside the wwe makes me understand Bruce. I don't have wwe network. Its tapes and DVD. Don't care what David thinks
Free thinking knows wwe sucks now but listen to them is more funny more entertaining than wwe. Thanks
William morey
Meltzer has that annoying upward infection in his voice that makes everything he says sound like a question. He also has these awkward pauses in his senteces that just make me cringe. Nothing against the guy or his dirt sheets,I just can't stand listening to him talk.
Seamus McBass ugh you’re right he has the Millenial upspeak which is what almost all millennial do and pretty much all Democrats.
It’s that whole I am smarter than you so I talk like an arrogant valley girl & know so much more than you even though I have zero qualifications or real knowledge of whatever subject lol
Fuck Dave Meltzer and all Liberals
he also says like non stop like a 13 year old girl
I can't stand his response to Bruce, immediately labeling him a loser because of who he's worked for and his sheer loyalty.
@feelings Are Not Arguments that was two years ago. It doesn't matter.
Besides, Meltzer IS infectious
44:14 Dean Malenko is not a shoot name 😂😂
benoit actually left the wcw belt in the ring at the ppv so he couldnt have brought the belt with him anyhow
Wwf smashed every guy that came in from wcw
Bob Bagel except for stonecold and Jericho 👍😎
I do agree with your comment as a whole though ☝️️
That Brother Love music is top quality shit....👌🏻
Maybe it was just me , but when they were talking about Mike Bell's brother making the documentary Conrad said "He has a new documentary about addiction... prescription drugs...you should check it out." Made it sound like Bruce is on pills and should watch it to help him out. That's just me though, I'm sure it wasn't what it was.
God that first 30 minutes was so annoying and pointless
I always skip an hour in, especially if it's about a specific event
Eddie's last PPV was also his birthday.
Snuka bleeped out?
sammy sole didn't get that either huh? What Benoit did was far more monstrous I believe anyway.
The difference is that Benoit isn't going to be able to sue them.
Brundlefly neither will Jimmy
I think you missed my point.
his daughter still works there
interesting how right bruce was about jeff jarrett here
Christ. Conrad makes it so damn hard to listen sometimes.
Conrad is akin to JR in the golden era of raw, and Bruce is in the role of lawyer. Without Conrad the show wouldn’t flow or have pacing.
@ 1:26:00 Saturn needed something to embellish his personality? Then Bruce, explain Bautista? Useless that's how I'd explain Dave.
tazz debuted against jerry lawler lol
Jerry Jarrett's Johnson
What happend when....The Radicalz came to WWF
Bruce claims he wasn't towing the company line, but now he's back in WWF....LOL
Just because he got rehired doesn’t mean he was towing the company line. Listen to more of these podcasts. He talks shit about Stephanie a few times.
This has to make the network unedited its bullshit what ive seen so far edited alot of benoit out cant we just say hes the greats professional at the time n thats that
Benoit was a TRASH wrestler
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4:59 not saying he did but that sounds like Bruce just sniffed some drugs
He did a big bipper!!!! A lil drip at the end.
Eddie Guerrero and Art Barr were awesome
Around the 2:18:00 mark they talk about the 4 of them being the biggest exodus in wrestling without there being a buyout (WWE buys WCW), but that isn't true. Misawa taking almost everyone in All Japan with him to start up NOAH would get that honor.
shane douglas was supposed to join them
I love when Bruce gives a bullshit answer and Conrad calls him out Bruce gets all pissy about it
Strange how there are plenty of people here saying Eddie and benoit never drew a dime.... Pretty sure they have made more money then any of you have though?
It's a response to some bs that Mike Graham had said because he didn't like Benoit and his friends.
JURASSIC DANGEROUS DINOSAUR J. D.D. they're mostly making a joke except for a wannabe tough guy known as "NWOWolfpacTV:
Malenko was too NWA to get over in the modern era
Going back and trying to listen to this one was literally unbearable...conrad trying to get Bruce mad and talking about shit meltzer for over 20 minutes made me tap out. Any of con's newer podcasts have become unlistenable for me due to the LONG ad-reads every 20 minutes, as well as he has never evolved from basing everything he knows and asks off of dirt sheet rumors. I really thought I loved this podcast, but going back to relisten is making it very clear that I REALLY dislike conrad and his ways of talking to people. I loved these shows and kept listening because Bruce is an amazing story teller, really funny, and at the end of the day has a lot of good values he stands for. I was listening in spite of con's constant disgusting behavior. Time to move on and find something new. After all these years, I feel I've grown out of this podcast. Sad to say goodbye, but I wish Bruce good luck in everything he does.
If Vince had gone to jail the wwe wouldn't be in business today.
Vince said he was planning to run it from jail if it came to that
Vince: "Come on Bruce jab it in my-ass!"
Bruce: "But Vince I have never given anyone steroids!"
Vince: "Who said anything about steroids Pal?"
Bruce: "I ... LOooooooove Youuuuuuu....."
Yep.😁 😁 😁
Oh jimmy Abuja probably huh?
who got bleeped?
M Ran probably Snuka..
What's so hard to understand about the fact that benoits brain was melting when he did that? But snuka tho..lol ok.
This was such a rushed podcast. Could have went into a lot more detail about Eddie.
Troll God i dont think Bruce coulda took much more talking about him
Well the topic was about their jump to wwe. Not their entire careers there
It always takes them for ever to get to the topic...it jumps around to much...
1 of the reasons I lost interest. Should be an hour podcast, takes 3 to 4. Way too long.
Who was accused of murder? They beeped out the name, obviously to protect themselves from a lawsuit lol. But seriously want to know who they’re talking about. Anyone know? & no they weren’t talking about Benoit.
Jimmy Snunka
@@ricsims Jimmy "murder murder" snuka
What makes someone drink diet coke
Fat asses.
Hooker Love same thing how someone drinks Pepsi. They like the taste
8:40 ummmmm, well..... we'll just see about that.......