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I remember Madeline being upset that alot of her friends didn't show up for her Birthday party I if someone texted them and said party has been canceled.
The parents were very honest and open....and it must have been the hardest thing they have ever had to do!! The shock and heartbreak is so awful and my heart goes out to them!!!
They aren't charging her for it, because they cannot prove it. But they can prove that it was him, and him, alone, that committed her murder. So he's the one that will be paying the piper on this, alone.
@@froggiesilver22 Yes!!! I hated my own CSA abuser but the pain and long lasting anger was even greater for the one who knew and was supposed to be my protector. Mothers should never fail their precious babies in this way. It had a profound effect on how i patented. I was perhaps a bit overly cautious but i didn’t care.
@rhondaalbrec they can prove she neglected to protect her child , that she told her daughter to go upstairs because she needed her sleep altho she didn't even have to work the following day that is child neglect a second degree felony . They can prove she lied under oath on several instances during a crime investigation that's obstruction of justice another felony under Florida law .
I just heard another interview between the mom and a detective where the detective asked her mom if she was aware that Maddie had missed her period the month she died... I can only imagine which way this is going to turn as time goes on 😭🤢
This man is an absolute monster. I gave Jennifer the benefit of the doubt at first, then I heard she SENT Maddie to bed with him!!! Then she told Stephan’s father he needed to call a lawyer AFTER she saw the pictures of what he did to her daughter! She needs to be charged! Thanks for covering this. ❤❤
That’s exactly what I thought at first I thought she was just kind of naive and he took advantage of her because he knew she wasn’t very smart to be honest ! But after I heard her say that she put her in the bed with him and then she told his parents that they should get him a lawyer I couldn’t defend her anymore after that ! I’d forgotten about that picture that she denied knowing who it was ! She’s just as sick as he is they’re both horrible people and I hope they both go to jail for a very long time!
Perfectly said. And I completely agree with you. She was more concerned for the man that’s sexually abused her daughter then she was for what happened to her daughter. I personally think she should be charged.
He sounds so calm and normal. That is scary because you know he has a whole other side. Jeckel l and Hyde. And that poor child had to experience his disgusting evil cruel sick side, over and over . oh man I can never watch more than 2 min of these vids. This case makes me too enraged, cant cope
The whole way he looks, and talks, everything about him, comes across as weird, and has made my skin crawl since the first time I saw him. He just looks like there's something off about him. WTF was she thinking having him there?
@@ellybean5868 They don't need her testimony. They've got pictures and video of this perp assaulting the victim, throwing her belongings away, and lying to police about driving her to school that morning. Jenn is not a credible witness anyway. She looks and sounds slow and/or high.
This is a nightmare. As a single mother with daughters this was one of my biggest fears. So i NEVER HAD A MAN IN MY HOME. I never let any man alone with my girls. I feel nothing but contempt for this alleged mother. She feed her child to a monster.
When my son died his boys were an eight year old and a sixteen month old , and with a widow that young it scared me to death ,, fortunately she is now in a long term relationship and will probably get married but just knowing pedophiles prey on young widows with children missing their daddy , I know I sounded like a paranoid nut but I couldn't help but remind her of it .
I so agree. I was divorced with sons, whose father was deliberately aloof and disengaged, I had a few relationships, but never to the extent of having a man feeling at home in my home, or involving them in my children's lives. Nobody had the freedom of the house, the keys to the door, or access to my kids in my absence. So I find Jen Soto's behavior appalling. incomprehensible.
Jenn skipped her daughter’s birthday to work ONE shift and then kicked her out on her birthday cause she needed to go to bed sooo bad that she couldn’t see her daughter who needs help to get settled, to bed. And then didn’t even wake up to see her to school or to participate in her ‘special birthday breakfast’? And THEN she goes to pick her up and doesn’t even go in to get her when she doesn’t come out of the school. She claims she didn’t want to make the other parents wait but why didn’t she circle around? She didn’t wait cause she knew she was dead.
Exactly. If the teachers & staff saw Jen sitting out there waiting for Maddie, wouldn’t they have approached her to ask who she’s waiting for, & possibly go into the school or call her name over a walkie talkie , especially if she was holding the line up?
Stephen was using his dad's car (because the loser didn't maintain his own on time) this car was used as a "poodle ambulance". It was full of blood, puke etc that couldn't be washed out the car anymore. it was gross. But yeah, I think she was ashamed about him as well.
Not sure it was all shame tho, I'm sure that played a part. I think she wanted to spend as little time as possible in the car w/ Stephen and threw out the first excuse that popped in her head
Jen isa jealous Stephen wants to b with Maddie. More than her.. Jen s anger was directed towards Maddie therefore didn't care what happened to her. Remember she wanted. Maddie out of house at 18
When he wines he's "not a morning person" because he can't explain what he did for 1 1\2 hours after he dropped Maddie off. Plus saying I love you to her and she said it back. The LIES!
@@tvcat3665 also he said she poo pooed the idea of going to McDonald's. She 86ed the idea and the lady cop says what does that mean I was thinking the same thing he's gross 🤢
I’m sorry but what mother encourages their boyfriend to sleep in the same bed as their daughter! Huge red flags 🚩 this mother is just as guilty as he is!
Stephan seems overly invested in Maddie. Even his voice sounds excitable when he talks about Maddie and her likes, dislikes, and habits more than he does about Jenn.
In some of the videos, he talks about her “starting puberty,” and having “PMS.” That’s inappropriate for him to even know about or discuss. Her mother failed her in so many ways. I hope she is arrested for child neglect atleast.
I do NOT understand why they haven't charged Jenn, her neglect and endangerment of her daughter IS criminal. They don't need her testimony against him. They have tons of evidence, and a slam dunk case against him. There is no reason to "spare" her, and by not charging her they're sending an awful message out there to every single parent dating that isn't being vigilant like they should be. I do not understand why they aren't charging her and it's pissing me off quite frankly.
What "tons" of evidence? They would have to prove knowledge of the sexual abuse and/or murder. So far nothing solid has come out. Poor decisions and denial sure, she's a complete failure as a mother. But you need more than that to charge her with a crime.
I lived in Orlando for 20 years, worked in the Orange County School system and am a survivor of incest and other SA. (One tends to lead to the other). This case distresses me on so many levels. I don’t know if he (or she) will go to trial, but if they do, I would really like to attend on behalf of Maddie. So many cases of SA involve a mother who allows herself to be snowed by a sexual predator skilled in grooming & conning. I’m doing my best to reserve judgement of the mother, due to her emotional disabilities and because I know that SAs are extremely skillful manipulators. In addition, Dr. Gary B has confirmed that many victims of complex trauma look like this mother. But best case scenario, Maddie’s needs & safety weren’t her top priorities.😒
Why is the DA not running a case against the mother? She should be on trial for child neglect and/or abuse. Surely they have enough evidence? This is mind-boggling. Children need to be secure and safe, especially at home. This obviously did not happen, and to use the excuse of "they always slept together, as I need sleep" does not make sense. Send her to jail as well, so she has enough "me" time.
There's no hurry in bringing murder charges. Maybe they're hoping he will implicate her in order to get a deal. Makes it a whole lot easier to convict her.
I can bet they do have a case on her but the evidence isn't enough for conviction yet. It took a while for the arrest of the boyfriend because law enforcement waits to arrest until they're sure they have enough evidence that the court will convict. Just because charges haven't been laid out doesn't mean there isn't an investigation.
She knew what was going on. Why would you have your bf over if you don't want to sleep with him? Why did Maddie had to have a "bedroom" that it wasn't even a real bedroom. Your own child doesn't have privacy in her own home, but then, Jen needed to sleep by herself in her king-size bed. I hope they put her in jail. That's for all moms that think their kids need a dad or man in their.lives. They need their mom protecting them. That's what they need. Rest in peace away from these scumbags.🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
Every time I hear him say this (and other phrases that are similar “slips”) I think this. Regardless of whether or not they meant to, the manner in which Stephan, Jenn, and Stephan’s parents word some things to the authorities appears super telling.
Yep I noticed it since I heard it the first time. Edit- he says the kids like to “rendezvous” at the church before school, not “gather” or “congregate”.
This man is an absolute monster. I gave Jennifer the benefit of the doubt at first, then I heard she SENT Maddie to bed with him!!! Then she told Stephan’s father he needed to call a lawyer AFTER she saw the pictures of what he did to her daughter! Then she said his SA against Maddie wasn’t evil!! She needs to be charged! Thanks for covering this. ❤❤
Agree 👍 There is something so inherently evil about this mom 👿 Her job as Maddie's mother was to protect and safe her daughter from people like her and Stephen.
Did I read that Stephan lived with his parents and had NO job? How does he have an Apple Watch? IMHO Jenn is complicit and should probably go to prison too.
This is why I remained single after my divorce. Poor, poor girl, what she must have gone through. And her mother! They need to investigate her for exposure to a predator.
👏👏👏. I agree with your actions to keep your kids safe and giving them the space they need to grow without having to process additional unnecessary life changes. I would do the same. I won't even think about it. Not for a minute. My peace and my solitud while helping my kids to grow is the most important thing. Around here, people seems like they just can't live without someone else. They desperately and spontaneously need a relationship. Between the divorced parents and their new partners poor kids go crazy. How They talk about kids and teenagers so they can have an excuse to feel closer to each other, so they can have something to talk about is awful. Everyone is against the child. These people make their own kids vulnerable because they expose them. But also it's horrible that someone trusts the wrong person.
As a former social worker these situations are not as rare as you think unfortunately, some people are really dysfunctional due to their own upbringing. sexual boundaries are non existent as demonstrated in this case where it was deemed okay for maddie to share a bed with him. They need to look very deeply into the mothers history I would hazard a good guess she comes from one of these families. I had women tell me their mothers knew of their abuse and turned a blind eye. There were families where girls were SA by their own brothers. The job opened my eyes to a world I never knew existed. I’m sorry but with my experience and everything that happened to this poor girl IMO Jen gives me the vibes of this type
and his parents have quite an odd past...his mother was living alone with Stephan when he was little...Chris Sterns was conducting a years long relationship with another woman who he professed to love. Stephan and his mother moved back in with Chris which he seemed at best ambivalent about, he continued his affair throughout. So many families present a false narrative when the reality is messy & dysfunctional.
I didn't let anyone get CLOSE to my girls (3) or my son. And i was very conscious of the " SPACE" that young ladies needed. My in-laws dubbed me " SECRET SERVICE over how protective i was. They are all grown now. No sexual trauma Well balanced College grads Not afraid of men That's why its imperative that you keep your family INTACT. Bio Dad IS A GODSEND. PRISON IS FULL OF BROKEN HOME CASUALTIES. DIVORCE IS DESTROYING OUR SOCIETY. " FOR GOD HATES DIVORCE "
It's EVERYWHERE! Literally every woman I know dealt with this as a child. The "upbringing" is only an excuse if the offender is a child. An adult knows what's appropriate. Also the upbringing isn't every offender. true Pedos new studies show r born that way
Jenn struggled with obesity and depression for decades. She probably was abused herself, so self-harmed with overeating and sedating herself. She never got justice for herself and didn’t take up for Maddie either
Is it possible Jenn was in that type of situation as a kid and therefore doesn’t understand how inappropriate it is. We really don’t know Jenn background. It’s possible she was abused as a child herself. Just playing devils advocate.
So they made good time that morning and left early, but he was also riding her to get in the car because they are already late. They had time to kill, but didn't go back to get their phones. He was going to get her McDonalds, but she refused to get anything when they arrived. He left the house early, but because he is not a morning person, he can barely remember what he did that morning.
@@lindsayb1329 the mother never paid attention to her daughter she was sleeping high or mad She is a terrible mom but I don’t think she knew what she was doing to her daughter. I know it sounds crazy but I think she is that oblivious to what happened she’s so selfish and sedated herself
I agree that a mother always knows, & it's very possible that she had some kind of thought about it, but I think it was more she just didn't care. It seems like being a mother was way down on her list of priorities in life. Anything in Maddies life she probably just couldn't be bothered with, & probably also why Maddie never tried to tell her mother what was going on. She probably had tried to tell her mother lots of things throughout her life that her mother either blew off or ignored, invalidated her in some kind of way. Jen was only a mother biologically, she never nurtured that bond with Maddie.
Yup, thank you for the reminder. Karma is not for us to dole out, but I could never be in the same building as these people. I hope Jenn faces some semblance of legal consequences for criminal negligence.
The same Lord that let all of this happen to this beautiful little girl? Is that the same Lord that's going to take care of this animal? No thanks, I think I'll let Man handle it.
Jenn said she went to pick Maddie up at 2:30. But wasn't seen leaving to get her until 4:30. Her story was as bad as Stern's. Lies on top of lies. Both are dispictable.
Sounds like stephan was destroying evidence at 2:45pm while Jen was gone to pick up a person he already k*//ed, he was sure she was an easy target because she's so unaware of reality
Why would she sleep with her daughter and her boyfriend?? And why would she send her daughter to sleep with a grown as man !! There are no words. This mother is nuts !
I did not count how many times he said the words” had time to kill”. This case is the most heartbreaking case, I’ve ever seen. Justice for madeleine!!!!!!!!!
@@prissypacheco2860to 86 means to ban and or prevent a person from perm rna you entering an establishment ever again…. most commonly used in a bar/restaurant Or an item is out of stock or unavailable.
Right?! I caught that too! When he says Maddie was asleep in the car, it sends chills down my spine. Just the way he describes everything is CRINGE! CRINGE! CRINGE! Lock Stephan and Jenn up and throw away the key. (BTW, I've NEVER missed or WILL EVER MISS ANY of my kids' birthday parties! Like wtf?!) Make it make sense! But you can't cuz it DOESN'T make sense.
She knew it's obvious that she gave her daughter to him. I can bet $ on law enforcement is waiting to arrest because they need enough evidence to convict. If they don't have the concrete evidence she will walk.
Another big leak..when he describes her declining MacDonalds the second time as ‘She wasn’t havin it’ weird phrase to use to turn down Maccas? Maybe she told SS ‘she wasn’t havin it’ ?
I AGREE. DAD TOLD A STORY OF SS HAVING HEAD TRAUMA WHEN HE WAS YOUNGER FROM A TRUCK COLLISION. SAME THING HAPPENED TO MY SON,WHO HAD EXIBITED ODD BEHAVIOR AND BROKE HIS FAMILY APART. HE HAS CALMED DOWN IN THE LAST 30 YEARS BUT HE'S BARELY HOLDING ON. AND BELIEVE ME I WATCH HIM LIKE A HAWK. I HOPE AND PRAY HE COMES OUT OF THIS.
He didn't help anyone! Not only did he sponge off his parents and Jen, he was lazy and made a mess everywhere he went and did nothing to help only hurt.
Pretty much! And then there’s reality: his very not-elderly and former-cop father is practically freelancing with the investigators 🤣 This guy is such a liar
OMG, he used the dog leash to help hold Maddie's body up in the seat! Remember Jen said Stephan woke her up getting the dog leash to take the dog for a walk and told her to go back to sleep.
Not exactly. In his parent’s interview, they explain that this car is used as their poodle “ambulance”. They breed standard poodles and that’s why there’s so many dog seat belts, leashes, blood, vomit, etc. They were already in the car. They said the dogs would get blood all over the car when they docked their tails, gave birth, etc. Although, he probably did use the one in the front passenger seat to wrap around her neck to hold her upright, without her falling in the floorboard. 😢
😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱 I'm haunted!!!! I literally just dropped my phone after reading your comment. 😵💫😵🤕😟😧😰😭 I can't. That was so freaking SICK of him!!!! How maniacal the workings of his brain are!!!! I'm sick 😭😭😭
When he said “had time to kill” multiple times I got chill bumps!! Then him complaining about making rookie mistakes changing his tire and he hurt his finger but it could have been so much worse, was this him covering any defensive marks on his hand/finger??
Wait did he say Jenn was just waking up (10am) when he got back from dropping off Maddie? I thought they missed each other b/c Jenn had a blood appointment that morning. She claimed she didn’t see him till she got back from the appointment and he was sitting at her computer. He didn’t mention Jenn going to an appointment. He just mentions her going back to taking a nap. They’re such liars. Jenn Soto needs to be arrested along w/SS. This pig making believe he’s crying. Maddie was talking to him about her crushes? He’s disgusting! He even mentions her PMS. Justice could not come soon enough. This is an abomination before God. Edit: it’s funny in the 2nd interview he mentions not being sure if Jenn went to her blood appt. but thinks she was still sleeping b/c she was trying to get as much sleep as possible b/c of her new job. He doesn’t know what Jenn said about the appt. So he’s trying to cover all their bases.
This was the same day or the day after. How could he not remember such easy stuff. I think Jen was there when he “got back” the first time but left soon after for the blood appt. She claimed she got up at 9.30 for a 10.15 appointment. He’d have to have remembered whether she was still in bed or getting ready or about to leave or whatever it was. He says he has only taken her to school on his own 2 or 3 times ever yet says things like “ she does that a lot when we are going to school” or “she’s always asking me to drop her a bit away” He was giving so many unnecessary details like what type of danish he gave her and how she liked the cool walks at a certain time. So much was screaming he had killed her.
Jenn is just as culpable. Charge her ass! The fact that he worked at Disney is beyond disturbing as well. This is not talked about enough. I’m a single mother too. No excuses for choosing ANYONE over your child!!!
There's a police officer (sheriff?) called Sheriff Grady Judd who gives updates on criminals caught in his area - so many were working at Disney. It's frightening.
i hope Dr. John touches on Stephan’s parents. during his dad’s interview it seemed like he knew something was wrong with his son but he was in denial or didn’t believe it could get as bad as it truly was. i also think stephan thought he could fool investigators because he THOUGHT his dad was unaware and oblivious so he thought he had him fooled too. (his father is a former cop) i do find it pretty strange that his mother puts a lot of blame on Jenn and talks about them vaping like they’re doing hard drugs but barely mentions the fact her son is a cowardly monster
@@Betsy.Ross76 I agree it’s not but what Dr would prescribe that for some one with Bi Polar issue it’s just another addiction the pair of them liked uppers and downers
That poor baby girl was talking to someone about her trauma or was going to. She was writing about it and processing it. I bet she told Jen or Jenn read her diary and knew she was going to tell and they killed her. I am not convinced Jenn wasn’t part of ber death.
My theory is that he was used to drugging her and abusing poor sweet beautiful MADDIE SOTO. I suspect she simply woke up and confronted him. He panicked and shut her up forever. Im sure he wouldnt have chosen these circumstances if he had premeditated the act. Hes a complete coward who cant even show his face in court, and only felt powerful with a sedated CHILD! The other inmates are waiting patiently for this demon. RIP MADDIE💜JUSTICE FOR MADDIE SOTO 💜✝️🙏🏼
And i think Jnn allowed it, so that the sex focus was off her. She said he wanted to do stuff she didn't want to do, and that they hadn't had sex in about 6 month... How could a mother send her daughter to sleep with this pig!!!!!! She needs to go down as well!!! Children should rely on the parents to protect them not set them up!!! Ugghhhh...So many words I want to say!!!
I totally believe Jenn wanted Maddie to relieve her of sex with SS. She was happy to have SS bother Maddie over herself. This is more common than you think. And I thought this from the beginning.
That was the parents car, and their poodle “ambulance”. They bred standard poodles. That’s why the dog seatbelts, leashes, blood, etc. They says dogs bled in the car from tail docking, giving birth, etc.
I absolutely have to know who saw somebody transferring a body from the car to the trunk and did not call police right away immediately. I need to know this. It is driving me crazy every single time I hear that it blows my mind and drives me absolutely up the wall
@@karenfavreau6673 my 12 year old daughter never takes her phone to school. They have to put them in bins during the school day so she prefers to leave it home. Unless they’re on a field trip then she’ll take it for pics and whatnot. In no way am I defending this POS but it’s not left field to say a young teen girl leaves her phone at home during the school day.
I just can not wrap my head around why, why, why, why someone could even think to harm a child, never mind do it. Buggles my mind, hurts my heart. 😢 He is a special kind of lying monster.🤬😡
I just about threw up in my mouth seeing this monster with NO shirt on. I can only imagine what maddilynn went through by the HANDS OF THIS MONSTER AND MOTHER! No way in H E L L the mother didn't know SOMETHING was not right. For starters LETTING YOUR CHILD SLEEP WITH A STRANGE MAN! Makes me sick!
All this talk about helping his “elderly parents” and “helping Jen” is BS. Did anyone hear his father say SS was useless and lazy. Who cares about his Ativan, tell it to the judge! DP for this creep!
I have heard some arguments over whether or not kids sleep on the way to school. They do and it's not a big deal or a clue that Sterns was lying (outside the likelihood that she was not sleeping but deceased). What is unbelievable is that a teen who was sleeping hard enough to refuse a free McDonald's breakfast would decide she wanted to get out 5 min away from school on a cold morning and walk the rest of the way. That sounds really wrong to me.
Feb. 26 in the morning: Wow, 09:25 he said he came home 10:15 and Jen was waking up at that time. Jen said, she had an appointment at 09:30 and came home 11:00.
Everyone saying the mom "had to of known". She did! I guarantee the detectives are gathering enough evidence for a conviction before the arrest. If they just arrest without enough evidence she will walk. It's very obvious the mother gave her daughter to him to use as a play toy. The problem is court works very differently the daily life. They need concrete evidence.
Such a liar!! His parents aren’t decrepit, and he was back home with mommy because daddy wasn’t paying his rent anymore! Plus help them? He never worked!
I was thinking that her turning 13 could have triggered him. Like he dehumanized her and saw her as too old and of no value to him anymore. He makes me want to puke.
@@0000zer0 I think that is his parents car that they described as the poodle ambulance? If I’m not mistaken. They are odd anyways imo. The lot of them. Poor Maddie🩵
Sickens me how he is fabricating a whole morning routine, and even so far as "narrating" for Maddie, knowing full well the whole time she was never alive to talk to him, to decide her breakfast and meet her friends. He is a sick coward who robbed her of her innocence and in the end her entire life and future. RIH(rot in hell), Stephan. Every day monsters live, while the angels they snuff out are taken from so many forever. Sick of it.
Something just dawned on me that is strange. I’ve heard from Jenns interviews that she asked Stephan to come back to stay with her so he can help with Maddie. Because she got a new job. I found this extremely strange but there we are… then I saw someone comment on another video that she was only working two days a week and that the next day she didn’t have work so there was no reason for her to send them away so she can sleep. Soooooo…… if she’s only working two days a week why on earth did she ask Stephan to come back unless she planned this too, she knew what was going to go down? Which goes along with her changing her story about whether or not she saw Maddie get ready for school, and why they keep saying “we” dropped her off. They have said “we” repeatedly- you don’t say we if it should just be I or He - multiple times.
@@paulaprettypaula4213 I know police don’t believe he now that her initial interview has been released. I can only hope that her “ immunity” is a facade and they’re building a better case.
Jenn makes me sicker than the monster. She was charged with loving and protecting her daughter and she failed at both miserably. They need to dig deeper and get Jenn too.
Having mental illness & constantly being a victim of the circumstances does not have to be the same thing. It was her choice and her daughter became the victim of her choices.
I find it odd that Jenn woke up at 10 am and Stephan said she took a nap at 12pm. That sounds fishy AF to me. Who takes a nap after sleeping for 11 hours? This makes me think he was giving her an alibi.
So he turned around to get his "gate clicker" but not to get Maddie her phone🤔 God, I just cringe when I see his face knowing what he put Maddie through👿
I've never understood the "I forgot my gate clicker" argument... Why would that ever need to leave the car? Is each apartment only given one clicker so you have to move them between cars if you have more than one vehicle? His argument would make more sense if he actually drove a "Hoopdie"- There is absolutely nothing embarrassing about the car he was driving, even for a teenager.
When the gate guy was interviewed he said Stephan had his clicker but told him it wasn’t working so he let him back through with a “sleeping” Maddie in the passenger seat. God knows what his real reason was for returning to the townhouse but it was nothing to do with a “clicker”
He yawns. He’s exhausted. Long day huh Stephan. SA, murder, carrying body around, driving everywhere, flat tire, hiding body, more driving, drive back and forth to north port, interviews
She's not afraid of him. She sold her to him. By way of getting the rent paid. Who else was poor Maddie sold to. It says she was drugged in many if not all the photos
Not afraid. After she saw the pictures of what he had done to HER daughter, she called his parents and advised them they should get HIM an attorney. She was only protecting him. 😤🤬
This scumbag is such a liar. My favorite part of this video was when the female police officer asked him for his phone and he then had to make the statement that he “accidentally” factory reset his phone!! I thought he was going to drop when she later asked if she could keep it. Why do these guys and gals always forget about the cloud? They also forgot that LE knows when they are being BS’d. You creeps out there might as well just confess. If the police have you dead to rights, the best defense attorneys will not get you off. Plead guilty and save the victim’s family and friends more suffering.
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Thank you 🙏
I remember Madeline being upset that alot of her friends didn't show up for her Birthday party I if someone texted them and said party has been canceled.
Wow those deaf old people making end of life plans definitely a shocking lie.
The parents were very honest and open....and it must have been the hardest thing they have ever had to do!!
The shock and heartbreak is so awful and my heart goes out to them!!!
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Abuse enablers are almost worse than abusers. SHAME on you Jen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
They aren't charging her for it, because they cannot prove it. But they can prove that it was him, and him, alone, that committed her murder. So he's the one that will be paying the piper on this, alone.
I don't know about jen being worse but she sat by & turned a blind eye that makes her a monster
@@froggiesilver22 Yes!!! I hated my own CSA abuser but the pain and long lasting anger was even greater for the one who knew and was supposed to be my protector. Mothers should never fail their precious babies in this way. It had a profound effect on how i patented. I was perhaps a bit overly cautious but i didn’t care.
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@rhondaalbrec they can prove she neglected to protect her child , that she told her daughter to go upstairs because she needed her sleep altho she didn't even have to work the following day that is child neglect a second degree felony . They can prove she lied under oath on several instances during a crime investigation that's obstruction of justice another felony under Florida law .
Him talking about Maddie's "PMS mood swings" is beyond disturbing.. He’s grotesque.
@@LeenaDee literally saying the same thing to myself! Why was that even important to note?? Creep!
The child had only had “one cycle”
Agreed! Creep
My thoughts exactly. Makes my stomach turn just hearing his voice. Beyond horrifying.
I just heard another interview between the mom and a detective where the detective asked her mom if she was aware that Maddie had missed her period the month she died... I can only imagine which way this is going to turn as time goes on 😭🤢
This man is an absolute monster. I gave Jennifer the benefit of the doubt at first, then I heard she SENT Maddie to bed with him!!! Then she told Stephan’s father he needed to call a lawyer AFTER she saw the pictures of what he did to her daughter! She needs to be charged! Thanks for covering this. ❤❤
That’s exactly what I thought at first I thought she was just kind of naive and he took advantage of her because he knew she wasn’t very smart to be honest ! But after I heard her say that she put her in the bed with him and then she told his parents that they should get him a lawyer I couldn’t defend her anymore after that ! I’d forgotten about that picture that she denied knowing who it was ! She’s just as sick as he is they’re both horrible people and I hope they both go to jail for a very long time!
Perfectly said. And I completely agree with you. She was more concerned for the man that’s sexually abused her daughter then she was for what happened to her daughter. I personally think she should be charged.
I 100% agree with you!!!!!
DITTO to everything you just said!!!😡
At the very least she should be charged with neglect causing the death of a child. This is such a horrific case.
His voice is just as annoying as the lies.
If it acts like a duck and looks like a duck....
Hear, hear. It’s pathetic sounding.
I agree ... nauseating !!! :(
He sounds so calm and normal. That is scary because you know he has a whole other side. Jeckel l and Hyde. And that poor child had to experience his disgusting evil cruel sick side, over and over . oh man I can never watch more than 2 min of these vids. This case makes me too enraged, cant cope
The whole way he looks, and talks, everything about him, comes across as weird, and has made my skin crawl since the first time I saw him. He just looks like there's something off about him. WTF was she thinking having him there?
I'm anxiously waiting for the day that authorities finally arrest Jen Soto for child endangerment.🤞
They can’t let her get away with this, she belongs in jail with him
If she isn't in jail now, she never will be. They will probably just let her be in exchange for her testimony
She needs to tell the truth (jen) 😢makes my blood boil 😤
@@ellybean5868 They don't need her testimony. They've got pictures and video of this perp assaulting the victim, throwing her belongings away, and lying to police about driving her to school that morning. Jenn is not a credible witness anyway. She looks and sounds slow and/or high.
She was jealous of her didn't cross her mind her daughter is a child get into jail now woman
This is a nightmare. As a single mother with daughters this was one of my biggest fears. So i NEVER HAD A MAN IN MY HOME. I never let any man alone with my girls. I feel nothing but contempt for this alleged mother. She feed her child to a monster.
You are a VERY WISE MOTHER
Not every man is a monster.She new being the mother he was a monster and a pos from the get go.
When my son died his boys were an eight year old and a sixteen month old , and with a widow that young it scared me to death ,, fortunately she is now in a long term relationship and will probably get married but just knowing pedophiles prey on young widows with children missing their daddy , I know I sounded like a paranoid nut but I couldn't help but remind her of it .
Omgggg me toooo!! I could have written this comment myself. Wtg mama!!!
I so agree. I was divorced with sons, whose father was deliberately aloof and disengaged, I had a few relationships, but never to the extent of having a man feeling at home in my home, or involving them in my children's lives. Nobody had the freedom of the house, the keys to the door, or access to my kids in my absence. So I find Jen Soto's behavior appalling. incomprehensible.
Jenn skipped her daughter’s birthday to work ONE shift and then kicked her out on her birthday cause she needed to go to bed sooo bad that she couldn’t see her daughter who needs help to get settled, to bed. And then didn’t even wake up to see her to school or to participate in her ‘special birthday breakfast’?
And THEN she goes to pick her up and doesn’t even go in to get her when she doesn’t come out of the school. She claims she didn’t want to make the other parents wait but why didn’t she circle around?
She didn’t wait cause she knew she was dead.
And they didn’t go search for her because they knew she was dead 💀. Poor Maddie :(💜💚
Exactly. If the teachers & staff saw Jen sitting out there waiting for Maddie, wouldn’t they have approached her to ask who she’s waiting for, & possibly go into the school or call her name over a walkie talkie , especially if she was holding the line up?
Not even a full shift! She worked part time. Like come on 🙄
Totally agree! Many red flags. She is complicit and therefore guilty!!
All I wanna know is why? Why did THEY kill Maddie? Yes. I agree she knew. So sad😢 and SICK!!
I don’t believe them when they say she was embarrassed of the car… she was ashamed of being seen with him - 🤢
Have thought of that as well she probably wanted to keep him away from the other young children to keep them safe
Stephen was using his dad's car (because the loser didn't maintain his own on time) this car was used as a "poodle ambulance". It was full of blood, puke etc that couldn't be washed out the car anymore. it was gross. But yeah, I think she was ashamed about him as well.
@@chacha-Ce83 I thought the same thing
Not sure it was all shame tho, I'm sure that played a part. I think she wanted to spend as little time as possible in the car w/ Stephen and threw out the first excuse that popped in her head
@@JamieDoe472
AMEN
Jenn Soto acting normal and talking to detectives like it’s just another day headed to the mall. She does not care
Denial. She chose him over Madeline long, long ago. Sad.
Just another day in the life of making Stephan happy.
Jen isa jealous Stephen wants to b with Maddie. More than her.. Jen s anger was directed towards Maddie therefore didn't care what happened to her. Remember she wanted. Maddie out of house at 18
@@ruthmyers2397no I didn’t hear that. She wants to left alone with her DRUGS.
i'm a big fan of the woman cop here. how hard must it be to listen to him and not smack him.
When he wines he's "not a morning person" because he can't explain what he did for 1 1\2 hours after he dropped Maddie off. Plus saying I love you to her and she said it back. The LIES!
@@tvcat3665 right?! Pretty sure she wasn't saying I love you when he was dumping her on the side of the road into some weeds and brush.
Great lead detectives from orange county
@@kimberleymclean6293 Absolutely
@@tvcat3665 also he said she poo pooed the idea of going to McDonald's. She 86ed the idea and the lady cop says what does that mean I was thinking the same thing he's gross 🤢
I’m sorry but what mother encourages their boyfriend to sleep in the same bed as their daughter! Huge red flags 🚩 this mother is just as guilty as he is!
Only way mother could keep him coming back. She is disgusting and guilty
💯💯💯💯💯
@@kmars3239 🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩 shame on you Jen Soto, disgusting 🤬
Yeah that’s wild
That was SO awkward!!!!!
I'm having a hard time with Jen's [willful] blindness. Maddie's death was so preventable.
She definitely KNEW . 😡👍
I'm not sure she didn't do it, she's part of it.
Join the club.
She knew exactly what he was doing...
How do you not hear your child fighting for their life in the other room? She was fully aware of what happened.
If his mouth is moving, he is lying.
Direct quote from his own Father.
That's what his father.said@@Modernmeemsshop
He went to the vape store twice. Tried McDonald’s twice… yea everyone normally does this twice when places are closed 🙄
So easily I might add.
Even his father says that.
Stephan seems overly invested in Maddie. Even his voice sounds excitable when he talks about Maddie and her likes, dislikes, and habits more than he does about Jenn.
@@candywilliams3533 facts
Couldn't agree more!!! The mother seems to have ZERO emotion...
And how upset he sounded when he mentioned she had a crush or crushes
Agree
In some of the videos, he talks about her “starting puberty,” and having “PMS.” That’s inappropriate for him to even know about or discuss. Her mother failed her in so many ways. I hope she is arrested for child neglect atleast.
I do NOT understand why they haven't charged Jenn, her neglect and endangerment of her daughter IS criminal. They don't need her testimony against him. They have tons of evidence, and a slam dunk case against him. There is no reason to "spare" her, and by not charging her they're sending an awful message out there to every single parent dating that isn't being vigilant like they should be. I do not understand why they aren't charging her and it's pissing me off quite frankly.
Exactly!
I think they will arrest her but for now they are letting inconsistencies occur over interviews and avoiding shutting down both of them ⚖️
What "tons" of evidence? They would have to prove knowledge of the sexual abuse and/or murder. So far nothing solid has come out. Poor decisions and denial sure, she's a complete failure as a mother. But you need more than that to charge her with a crime.
@@beth6370i think they meant evidence against SS, not Jen
Thank you for covering this. This is in my neck of the woods. Maddie deserved to live her life. This case makes my blood boil! 😡
I feel the same way. I have a 12 year old daughter and this case has shattered me 💔
It makes my blood boil too & absolutely breaks my heart. RIP Maddie 💔🕊️😭
I lived in Orlando for 20 years, worked in the Orange County School system and am a survivor of incest and other SA. (One tends to lead to the other). This case distresses me on so many levels. I don’t know if he (or she) will go to trial, but if they do, I would really like to attend on behalf of Maddie.
So many cases of SA involve a mother who allows herself to be snowed by a sexual predator skilled in grooming & conning. I’m doing my best to reserve judgement of the mother, due to her emotional disabilities and because I know that SAs are extremely skillful manipulators. In addition, Dr. Gary B has confirmed that many victims of complex trauma look like this mother. But best case scenario, Maddie’s needs & safety weren’t her top priorities.😒
Why is the DA not running a case against the mother? She should be on trial for child neglect and/or abuse. Surely they have enough evidence? This is mind-boggling. Children need to be secure and safe, especially at home. This obviously did not happen, and to use the excuse of "they always slept together, as I need sleep" does not make sense. Send her to jail as well, so she has enough "me" time.
There's no hurry in bringing murder charges. Maybe they're hoping he will implicate her in order to get a deal. Makes it a whole lot easier to convict her.
I can bet they do have a case on her but the evidence isn't enough for conviction yet. It took a while for the arrest of the boyfriend because law enforcement waits to arrest until they're sure they have enough evidence that the court will convict. Just because charges haven't been laid out doesn't mean there isn't an investigation.
She knew what was going on. Why would you have your bf over if you don't want to sleep with him? Why did Maddie had to have a "bedroom" that it wasn't even a real bedroom. Your own child doesn't have privacy in her own home, but then, Jen needed to sleep by herself in her king-size bed. I hope they put her in jail. That's for all moms that think their kids need a dad or man in their.lives. They need their mom protecting them. That's what they need. Rest in peace away from these scumbags.🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
@@shampiuAnd SS mom and the roommate both thought there was inappropriate stuff going on.
They need her testimony. They’ll make a deal with her. (What’s moral and what’s legal are two very different things)
"We had plenty of time to kill"...a Freudian slip?
Every time I hear him say this (and other phrases that are similar “slips”) I think this. Regardless of whether or not they meant to, the manner in which Stephan, Jenn, and Stephan’s parents word some things to the authorities appears super telling.
Yep I noticed it since I heard it the first time.
Edit- he says the kids like to “rendezvous” at the church before school, not “gather” or “congregate”.
Wow, well spoken!❤️✡️✝️🙏
I was looking if I was the only one that noticed
OMG OMG 😢
This man is an absolute monster. I gave Jennifer the benefit of the doubt at first, then I heard she SENT Maddie to bed with him!!! Then she told Stephan’s father he needed to call a lawyer AFTER she saw the pictures of what he did to her daughter! Then she said his SA against Maddie wasn’t evil!! She needs to be charged! Thanks for covering this. ❤❤
Agree 👍 There is something so inherently evil about this mom 👿 Her job as Maddie's mother was to protect and safe her daughter from people like her and Stephen.
💯 and I tell you something else, it would be me that needed a lawyer if I found out someone had done that to my daughter.
@@BetPonduewell she didn’t say that,, wait until the trial you ll get the real evidence
I agree , you don’t send your daughter to sleep with your boyfriend
@@BetPondue 💯💯💯 EXACTLY! 💯💯💯
I hope Dr John weighs in on this case… especially on Jenn.
This is one from a couple of months ago with the initial evidence Dr John had access to.
th-cam.com/users/liveupv0Rkd9BxQ?si=ZN_gOZB1XU4Zt9GF
They did a video a couple of months ago.
@@Stella88Iris I was thinking in light of all the new info coming out.
Did I read that Stephan lived with his parents and had NO job? How does he have an Apple Watch?
IMHO Jenn is complicit and should probably go to prison too.
Me too...its hard to believe a mother could feed her child to him. I can't get my head around that at all. I would defend my son with my life. 😊
This is why I remained single after my divorce. Poor, poor girl, what she must have gone through. And her mother! They need to investigate her for exposure to a predator.
Trafficking! They say jen hasn’t committed any crime they can charge her for!?! Trafficking is a CRIME
👏👏👏. I agree with your actions to keep your kids safe and giving them the space they need to grow without having to process additional unnecessary life changes. I would do the same. I won't even think about it. Not for a minute. My peace and my solitud while helping my kids to grow is the most important thing. Around here, people seems like they just can't live without someone else. They desperately and spontaneously need a relationship. Between the divorced parents and their new partners poor kids go crazy. How They talk about kids and teenagers so they can have an excuse to feel closer to each other, so they can have something to talk about is awful. Everyone is against the child. These people make their own kids vulnerable because they expose them. But also it's horrible that someone trusts the wrong person.
Yes, poor child fo Years! D.P.!
And for years she live with the monster her mom provided for her and most probably they both were living off the money that was suppose to be Maddy.
As a former social worker these situations are not as rare as you think unfortunately, some people are really dysfunctional due to their own upbringing. sexual boundaries are non existent as demonstrated in this case where it was deemed okay for maddie to share a bed with him. They need to look very deeply into the mothers history I would hazard a good guess she comes from one of these families. I had women tell me their mothers knew of their abuse and turned a blind eye. There were families where girls were SA by their own brothers. The job opened my eyes to a world I never knew existed. I’m sorry but with my experience and everything that happened to this poor girl IMO Jen gives me the vibes of this type
and his parents have quite an odd past...his mother was living alone with Stephan when he was little...Chris Sterns was conducting a years long relationship with another woman who he professed to love. Stephan and his mother moved back in with Chris which he seemed at best ambivalent about, he continued his affair throughout. So many families present a false narrative when the reality is messy & dysfunctional.
I didn't let anyone get CLOSE to my girls (3) or
my son.
And i was very conscious of the " SPACE" that young ladies needed.
My in-laws dubbed me " SECRET SERVICE over how protective i was.
They are all grown now.
No sexual trauma
Well balanced
College grads Not afraid of men
That's why its imperative that you keep your family INTACT.
Bio Dad IS A GODSEND.
PRISON IS FULL OF BROKEN HOME CASUALTIES.
DIVORCE IS DESTROYING OUR SOCIETY.
" FOR GOD HATES DIVORCE "
It's EVERYWHERE! Literally every woman I know dealt with this as a child. The "upbringing" is only an excuse if the offender is a child. An adult knows what's appropriate. Also the upbringing isn't every offender. true Pedos new studies show r born that way
Jenn struggled with obesity and depression for decades. She probably was abused herself, so self-harmed with overeating and sedating herself. She never got justice for herself and didn’t take up for Maddie either
Is it possible Jenn was in that type of situation as a kid and therefore doesn’t understand how inappropriate it is.
We really don’t know Jenn background. It’s possible she was abused as a child herself. Just playing devils advocate.
That poor child. A blob of a mother and a freeloading predator in the home. Listening to that monster is infuriating.
In photographs Maddie looks stressed and fatigued with dark circles under her eyes, poor child 💔
So they made good time that morning and left early, but he was also riding her to get in the car because they are already late. They had time to kill, but didn't go back to get their phones. He was going to get her McDonalds, but she refused to get anything when they arrived. He left the house early, but because he is not a morning person, he can barely remember what he did that morning.
What a creep!
and said " he went allll the way back to get the gate clicker , but didn't get neither one of their phones .
Yeah, makes total sense. Not.
When you put his testimonies side by side like that...
Yes. You’ve covered it entirely. Makes perfect sense… what a monster!
He is a liar! How can he do what they're saying he did and sit there lying so easily 😡
He is evil personified
And stay soooo calm!!!
This guy gives me the creeps. The mother is disgusting too. She had to have known things. A mother always knows. This poor kid never had a chance 💔
Came for this!
Of course she knew
@@lindsayb1329 the mother never paid attention to her daughter she was sleeping high or mad She is a terrible mom but I don’t think she knew what she was doing to her daughter. I know it sounds crazy but I think she is that oblivious to what happened she’s so selfish and sedated herself
I agree that a mother always knows, & it's very possible that she had some kind of thought about it, but I think it was more she just didn't care. It seems like being a mother was way down on her list of priorities in life. Anything in Maddies life she probably just couldn't be bothered with, & probably also why Maddie never tried to tell her mother what was going on. She probably had tried to tell her mother lots of things throughout her life that her mother either blew off or ignored, invalidated her in some kind of way. Jen was only a mother biologically, she never nurtured that bond with Maddie.
@@alicein1984exactly
This is terrible 😞 I have to remind myself “vengeance is mine said the Lord”
Amen! I do too!
I truly pray for forgiveness for the way that I feel about him and others like him because I absolutely hate people like this monster !
Yup, thank you for the reminder. Karma is not for us to dole out, but I could never be in the same building as these people. I hope Jenn faces some semblance of legal consequences for criminal negligence.
I agree that vengeance is the Lord's. I think in this case, it is perfectly fine to facilitate SS being sent off to meet God.
The same Lord that let all of this happen to this beautiful little girl? Is that the same Lord that's going to take care of this animal? No thanks, I think I'll let Man handle it.
His boxer underwear in Maddie’s hamper (in her makeshift room) makes me so sick 🤢
Jenn said she went to pick Maddie up at 2:30. But wasn't seen leaving to get her until 4:30. Her story was as bad as Stern's. Lies on top of lies. Both are dispictable.
She left at 14:30, that is 2:30 pm not 4:30pm.
Sounds like stephan was destroying evidence at 2:45pm while Jen was gone to pick up a person he already k*//ed, he was sure she was an easy target because she's so unaware of reality
They are the brightest crayons in the box👹👺
Why would she sleep with her daughter and her boyfriend?? And why would she send her daughter to sleep with a grown as man !! There are no words. This mother is nuts !
She belongs in jail too, who sends their 13 yo daughter to bed with her bf? Thats just crazy
She's sick.
This was transactional, whether conscious or unconscious. She makes her kid available and he stays around as her man.
She belong lock up for ever
@@lindalarson5468 "I deserve to be happy"- Mom = A childhood sold
I did not count how many times he said the words” had time to kill”. This case is the most heartbreaking case, I’ve ever seen. Justice for madeleine!!!!!!!!!
Stephen's father also uses this phrase a lot, might be learned behavior, but can also be a freudian slip?
Wow I thought the same as you!
He also said she 86'd the idea. Which is American slang for get rid of..
@@dr.edwardmoskowitz4328 It is so sad.
@@prissypacheco2860to 86 means to ban and or prevent a person from perm rna you entering an establishment ever again….
most commonly used in a bar/restaurant Or an item is out of stock or unavailable.
Now he’s whining behind bars because his mattress is flat, his pillow isn’t nice, he doesn’t get enough coffee and candy…
He’s definitely not the smartest tool in the shed.
Hmmmm. Should have stayed at mommy's house and out of a little girls bed.
@@shayshe1918yes!!! TY for telling the TRUTH
He said “they had plenty of time to kill”. Truer words have never been spoken.
Because that's exactly what he did !!
Right?! I caught that too! When he says Maddie was asleep in the car, it sends chills down my spine. Just the way he describes everything is CRINGE! CRINGE! CRINGE! Lock Stephan and Jenn up and throw away the key. (BTW, I've NEVER missed or WILL EVER MISS ANY of my kids' birthday parties! Like wtf?!) Make it make sense! But you can't cuz it DOESN'T make sense.
@@juliewaite2174Jenn had. Nothing to do with anything. You can wish all u want but LE said. No charges
@@jenreilly8058 There will eventually be charges. Mark my word.
She knew it's obvious that she gave her daughter to him. I can bet $ on law enforcement is waiting to arrest because they need enough evidence to convict. If they don't have the concrete evidence she will walk.
He is leaking information like liars always do. Talking about her crocs; saying “…kill” ~five times, for example.
Another big leak..when he describes her declining MacDonalds the second time as ‘She wasn’t havin it’ weird phrase to use to turn down Maccas? Maybe she told SS ‘she wasn’t havin it’ ?
No one has ever made me so physically ill just looking at them
I AGREE.
DAD TOLD A STORY OF SS HAVING HEAD TRAUMA WHEN HE WAS YOUNGER FROM A TRUCK COLLISION.
SAME THING HAPPENED TO MY SON,WHO HAD EXIBITED ODD BEHAVIOR AND BROKE HIS FAMILY APART.
HE HAS CALMED DOWN IN THE LAST 30 YEARS BUT HE'S BARELY HOLDING ON.
AND BELIEVE ME I WATCH HIM LIKE A HAWK.
I HOPE AND PRAY HE COMES OUT OF THIS.
Same
Could you imagine what those officers were thinking while he was telling his lies??? I bet they were wanting to lose it on him.
They were letting him dig his hole. But I'm sure they knew they had there guy. Be really hard to look him in the eye while you know what he did
He didn't help anyone! Not only did he sponge off his parents and Jen, he was lazy and made a mess everywhere he went and did nothing to help only hurt.
If you let him tell it, he's a golden citizen.
The way he talks about his parents being old my god he makes out they can barely move
Pretty much! And then there’s reality: his very not-elderly and former-cop father is practically freelancing with the investigators 🤣 This guy is such a liar
And he has the NERVE to act like he is helping THEM. Oof!
OMG, he used the dog leash to help hold Maddie's body up in the seat! Remember Jen said Stephan woke her up getting the dog leash to take the dog for a walk and told her to go back to sleep.
Not exactly. In his parent’s interview, they explain that this car is used as their poodle “ambulance”. They breed standard poodles and that’s why there’s so many dog seat belts, leashes, blood, vomit, etc. They were already in the car. They said the dogs would get blood all over the car when they docked their tails, gave birth, etc. Although, he probably did use the one in the front passenger seat to wrap around her neck to hold her upright, without her falling in the floorboard. 😢
Everytime I hear someone talking about them docking tails it just literally makes me want to scratch my skin off. That is so disturbing imo.
This was the comment I was looking for . My thoughts exactly
😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱 I'm haunted!!!! I literally just dropped my phone after reading your comment. 😵💫😵🤕😟😧😰😭 I can't. That was so freaking SICK of him!!!! How maniacal the workings of his brain are!!!! I'm sick 😭😭😭
2? P
I blame the mom every bit as much as him!!!!!!
When he got home around 10 a.m. Jen was just waking up but she had a great night sleep all by herself
When he said “had time to kill” multiple times I got chill bumps!! Then him complaining about making rookie mistakes changing his tire and he hurt his finger but it could have been so much worse, was this him covering any defensive marks on his hand/finger??
Poor girl- What she wrote on the note pad is heartbreaking as well. Breaks my heart! No child should have to go through this.
There r drawings she did also .Not appropriate for all yo see
@@kellidavis2085 :(
Where is the notepad?
What did she write? I missed this part.
@@shayshe1918 they did not show everything she wrote some things were sensitive
Wait did he say Jenn was just waking up (10am) when he got back from dropping off Maddie? I thought they missed each other b/c Jenn had a blood appointment that morning. She claimed she didn’t see him till she got back from the appointment and he was sitting at her computer. He didn’t mention Jenn going to an appointment. He just mentions her going back to taking a nap. They’re such liars. Jenn Soto needs to be arrested along w/SS. This pig making believe he’s crying. Maddie was talking to him about her crushes?
He’s disgusting! He even mentions her PMS. Justice could not come soon enough. This is an abomination before God.
Edit: it’s funny in the 2nd interview he mentions not being sure if Jenn went to her blood appt. but thinks she was still sleeping b/c she was trying to get as much sleep as possible b/c of her new job. He doesn’t know what Jenn said about the appt. So he’s trying to cover all their bases.
Period! You're so right!
This was the same day or the day after. How could he not remember such easy stuff. I think Jen was there when he “got back” the first time but left soon after for the blood appt. She claimed she got up at 9.30 for a 10.15 appointment. He’d have to have remembered whether she was still in bed or getting ready or about to leave or whatever it was. He says he has only taken her to school on his own 2 or 3 times ever yet says things like “ she does that a lot when we are going to school” or “she’s always asking me to drop her a bit away” He was giving so many unnecessary details like what type of danish he gave her and how she liked the cool walks at a certain time. So much was screaming he had killed her.
@@sharonhoward884 I've noticed Stephan has referred to Maddie in the past tense in a couple of interviews. Oopsie!
@@juliewaite2174all Jen does is want to sleep and even slept after daughter missing?
First he said he went back and hung out with Jenn, then he said he can't remember if she was there!!!
Jenn is just as culpable. Charge her ass! The fact that he worked at Disney is beyond disturbing as well. This is not talked about enough. I’m a single mother too. No excuses for choosing ANYONE over your child!!!
This!!!!!!!
Walter Disney company is evil!!!!
There's a police officer (sheriff?) called Sheriff Grady Judd who gives updates on criminals caught in his area - so many were working at Disney. It's frightening.
That’s what Sheriff Grady says. They even arrest people that work at Disney World.
i hope Dr. John touches on Stephan’s parents. during his dad’s interview it seemed like he knew something was wrong with his son but he was in denial or didn’t believe it could get as bad as it truly was. i also think stephan thought he could fool investigators because he THOUGHT his dad was unaware and oblivious so he thought he had him fooled too. (his father is a former cop) i do find it pretty strange that his mother puts a lot of blame on Jenn and talks about them vaping like they’re doing hard drugs but barely mentions the fact her son is a cowardly monster
They were vaping MJ
Mj isn't hard drugs whatsoever.
@@Betsy.Ross76 I agree it’s not but what Dr would prescribe that for some one with Bi Polar issue it’s just another addiction the pair of them liked uppers and downers
True. The dad loves to chat about HImself. And his investment , etc. 😮yes,,, the Mom seems to really hate Jenn,,, 😮
Right. They forget that they are responsible for how they raised him. Silly. Very silly and the hypocrisy is lost on them.
I
Love hearing his breath when she said “we’re keeping your phone”
And then , “no they can call Jen’s phone”. He knew he was fucked.
@@jayrodtracey3465
He will be wene he goes to jail 😏
This case hurts my soul I know from experience what Maddie went through. May God bless her soul
Mr too. Except we are alive today to remember it.
When he says “it became a normal day.” Chilling. Basically just admitted it didn’t start out as a normal day.
That poor baby girl was talking to someone about her trauma or was going to. She was writing about it and processing it. I bet she told Jen or Jenn read her diary and knew she was going to tell and they killed her. I am not convinced Jenn wasn’t part of ber death.
Yes, I totally agree except I am not sure about asking them to read it .Maybe they found it and read it,and it set alarm bells off
Great work- I have heard some of these interviews but haven’t seen the evidence pics. Thanks for putting them into one clip!
0:38 “We had plenty of time to KILL” is a terrible choice of words 😵💫🥴🥴🥴
@@QueenOfEverything69 LOL I had the same
Thought
Right!!!
Ehh..he's so creepy 😳
Leakage
@@QueenOfEverything69 exactly
My theory is that he was used to drugging her and abusing poor sweet beautiful MADDIE SOTO. I suspect she simply woke up and confronted him. He panicked and shut her up forever. Im sure he wouldnt have chosen these circumstances if he had premeditated the act. Hes a complete coward who cant even show his face in court, and only felt powerful with a sedated CHILD! The other inmates are waiting patiently for this demon. RIP MADDIE💜JUSTICE FOR MADDIE SOTO 💜✝️🙏🏼
And i think Jnn allowed it, so that the sex focus was off her. She said he wanted to do stuff she didn't want to do, and that they hadn't had sex in about 6 month... How could a mother send her daughter to sleep with this pig!!!!!! She needs to go down as well!!! Children should rely on the parents to protect them not set them up!!! Ugghhhh...So many words I want to say!!!
I totally believe Jenn wanted Maddie to relieve her of sex with SS. She was happy to have SS bother Maddie over herself. This is more common than you think. And I thought this from the beginning.
Or he was jealous of her crushes on middle school boys who weren't gross old men?
@@shellygoodenoughAnd she knew his “kink” that poor child was abused in so many ways.Its absolutely disgusting.
@@shellygoodenoughshe said Dec of 20122
That leash on that passenger seat is so haunting...
That was the parents car, and their poodle “ambulance”. They bred standard poodles. That’s why the dog seatbelts, leashes, blood, etc. They says dogs bled in the car from tail docking, giving birth, etc.
@@melissamoves8355 I was confused when I saw it. This is so sad
@@erikalivas1218I thought it looked short for dogs, I thought maybe to hold her head up
Disgusts me, needs to be in prison asap. Jenn too.
He is a total monster!! I hope they give him the dp!! And I’m sorry but I think Jenn knew something and turned the blind eye
More than turned a blind eye
I hope the DP doesn’t take decade(s) to actually happen. This monster does not deserve to breath air 👹
Super excited to see you two covering the new (very extensive) document dump for this case!!! ❤🎉❤
Omg the shirtless pics of him……..disgusting he gives me the chills.
Jen lied to the police. I think she knew
Of course she did, I hope they charge her for something
I think she was involved
She definitely knew and I think she was in the car with him at some point because they repeatedly say “we” dropped her off.
@@Makeuplovecultureyes I’m the first interview she said we and then she change theory she said he drop her off
I absolutely have to know who saw somebody transferring a body from the car to the trunk and did not call police right away immediately. I need to know this. It is driving me crazy every single time I hear that it blows my mind and drives me absolutely up the wall
@@dazzlingextremes389 I recall hearing CCTV in the parking garage. He backed in his car, trying to avoid being seen, then moved her.
It was video
Probably cops wanted video on that day.
There’s no way a 13 year old girl leaves her phone at home
@@karenfavreau6673 my 12 year old daughter never takes her phone to school. They have to put them in bins during the school day so she prefers to leave it home. Unless they’re on a field trip then she’ll take it for pics and whatnot. In no way am I defending this POS but it’s not left field to say a young teen girl leaves her phone at home during the school day.
@@karenfavreau6673 and denies McDonald’s breakfast ? Like what
Exactly he left their phones sad
I just can not wrap my head around why, why, why, why someone could even think to harm a child, never mind do it. Buggles my mind, hurts my heart. 😢
He is a special kind of lying monster.🤬😡
I’ve been following this case. Thank you so much for covering this.
That female detective is not entertaining his bullshit. I like how matter of fact she is. Good job detectives!
She loathes him and knows he’s guilty 😮woman’s instinct
Sterns is a monster and I don't even have words for Jenn🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈
Hilarious! His "elderly" parents that needed help. ..LIARx100000
right! I'm around jen's age and I'd never refer to those people as elderly. she's too much.
I expected them to be ancient, they are in better shape than he is!
I think he looks almost as old as his dad 😳
"making end of life plans" he said.... His parents would have been his next victims had he gotten away with this ..
@@PlatinumLemur
That’s what came to mind for me, too😳
I just about threw up in my mouth seeing this monster with NO shirt on. I can only imagine what maddilynn went through by the HANDS OF THIS MONSTER AND MOTHER! No way in H E L L the mother didn't know SOMETHING was not right. For starters LETTING YOUR CHILD SLEEP WITH A STRANGE MAN! Makes me sick!
The pair of boxers on the side of her laundry basket disgusting 😢
@@Shay_Garcia yeah, with her stuff, and he had a basket in his -"in the guest room"
All this talk about helping his “elderly parents” and “helping Jen” is BS. Did anyone hear his father say SS was useless and lazy. Who cares about his Ativan, tell it to the judge! DP for this creep!
Appreciate seeing the evidence photos.
Thank you for sharing this & the evidence pics. RIP Maddie💜🙏🏽💜
I have heard some arguments over whether or not kids sleep on the way to school. They do and it's not a big deal or a clue that Sterns was lying (outside the likelihood that she was not sleeping but deceased). What is unbelievable is that a teen who was sleeping hard enough to refuse a free McDonald's breakfast would decide she wanted to get out 5 min away from school on a cold morning and walk the rest of the way. That sounds really wrong to me.
Good point!
If a child has to sleep on the way to school then something is seriously wrong
@nonaanon3805 I'm not sure why that sleeping on the way to school is a big problem. I did it. My nephew did it. I wasn't a morning person at that age.
Feb. 26 in the morning: Wow, 09:25 he said he came home 10:15 and Jen was waking up at that time. Jen said, she had an appointment at 09:30 and came home 11:00.
She was supposed to be at her appt at 10:15. I wonder if she actually went. Guess we'll find out at trial.
I caught that too
Everyone saying the mom "had to of known". She did! I guarantee the detectives are gathering enough evidence for a conviction before the arrest. If they just arrest without enough evidence she will walk. It's very obvious the mother gave her daughter to him to use as a play toy. The problem is court works very differently the daily life. They need concrete evidence.
Such a liar!! His parents aren’t decrepit, and he was back home with mommy because daddy wasn’t paying his rent anymore! Plus help them? He never worked!
The mother is GUILTY as well. She should be in prison.
Her lack of concern during her interviews said everything
My father Never spoke of or asked Any questions about female issues, I Never saw my father undressed, never saw me undressed never.
Mine either that’s personel red flag 🚩 right there
16:00 Strange that Stephan mentioned Madeline's "PMS". Could it be that he no longer saw her as a 'desirable' child?
interesting point.
I was thinking that her turning 13 could have triggered him. Like he dehumanized her and saw her as too old and of no value to him anymore. He makes me want to puke.
Yes
@@SASkinPro🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
PLEASE PLEASE! WHY ARENT THEY INVESTIGATING AND INTERVIEWING THE ROOMMATES??!! They live there, with a young boy. They HAVE to know something.
No actually they don't have to know something
The roommates have been interviewed by police. One was told that SS had photos of her that were taken under the gap at the bottom of the door.
There are no redeeming qualities in either of these two. They both never need to see sunlight again.
Her little shoe makes me cry.
@@dragonclaws9367 they talk about Mcds and her cross, and Mcds toy now are mini Crocs. Reminds me of her
Love the "don't postpone joy" tattoo on the person taking the pics. 💕
@@bettina868 ooh nice catch, thanks for sharing!
That creep poured paint all over her backpack to try to conceal it. He clearly said on 1st interview it was black with hibiscus flowers on it.
Oh okay I was wondering where that paint came from
Who puts dog collars on the headrest like that????? Never seen it
@@0000zer0 I think that is his parents car that they described as the poodle ambulance? If I’m not mistaken. They are odd anyways imo. The lot of them. Poor Maddie🩵
@@lilirishgrl yah very odd.. wth
@@lilirishgrlno your correct
Sickens me how he is fabricating a whole morning routine, and even so far as "narrating" for Maddie, knowing full well the whole time she was never alive to talk to him, to decide her breakfast and meet her friends. He is a sick coward who robbed her of her innocence and in the end her entire life and future. RIH(rot in hell), Stephan. Every day monsters live, while the angels they snuff out are taken from so many forever. Sick of it.
I can feel your anger & I'm right there with you. I'm so tired of cases like this. We just had to endure this with that monster Dinkins.
😩😱😭😭😭😭
Maddie was abused under her moms roof sorry her moms 🤬🤬🤬🤬
Thank you for covering this case! I was wondering if you would cover it.
I'm sooooo happy you are covering this !
1.01.00 goodbye phone, never to be seen by you again. That female detective knows and can’t hide her disdain for him!
Lauren & Dr John, I need you guys on this one. I am infuriated listening to him. The audacity is incomprehensible.
Something just dawned on me that is strange. I’ve heard from Jenns interviews that she asked Stephan to come back to stay with her so he can help with Maddie. Because she got a new job. I found this extremely strange but there we are… then I saw someone comment on another video that she was only working two days a week and that the next day she didn’t have work so there was no reason for her to send them away so she can sleep. Soooooo…… if she’s only working two days a week why on earth did she ask Stephan to come back unless she planned this too, she knew what was going to go down? Which goes along with her changing her story about whether or not she saw Maddie get ready for school, and why they keep saying “we” dropped her off. They have said “we” repeatedly- you don’t say we if it should just be I or He - multiple times.
Yes she always said we dropped her off by the church Jenn’s not telling the truth I fear
@@paulaprettypaula4213 I know police don’t believe he now that her initial interview has been released. I can only hope that her “ immunity” is a facade and they’re building a better case.
Jenn makes me sicker than the monster. She was charged with loving and protecting her daughter and she failed at both miserably. They need to dig deeper and get Jenn too.
I loathe both Stephan & the mother. They are both vile, despicable creatures. My heart breaks for Maddie.
Me too
Jen - GOAT of sleeping and taking naps.
everything else worse of the worst.
Having mental illness & constantly being a victim of the circumstances does not have to be the same thing. It was her choice and her daughter became the victim of her choices.
This is a sick thought he probably monitor her periods so he knew when to have his way with her what a 😱
I find it odd that Jenn woke up at 10 am and Stephan said she took a nap at 12pm. That sounds fishy AF to me. Who takes a nap after sleeping for 11 hours? This makes me think he was giving her an alibi.
Right. Asleep at 11p, up at 9am with alarm for blood work, than a nap at noon. All while her daughter is missing.
So he turned around to get his "gate clicker" but not to get Maddie her phone🤔 God, I just cringe when I see his face knowing what he put Maddie through👿
HIS gate clicker. I thought he’s going to his other apartment?
I've never understood the "I forgot my gate clicker" argument... Why would that ever need to leave the car? Is each apartment only given one clicker so you have to move them between cars if you have more than one vehicle?
His argument would make more sense if he actually drove a "Hoopdie"- There is absolutely nothing embarrassing about the car he was driving, even for a teenager.
When the gate guy was interviewed he said Stephan had his clicker but told him it wasn’t working so he let him back through with a “sleeping” Maddie in the passenger seat. God knows what his real reason was for returning to the townhouse but it was nothing to do with a “clicker”
Weird he was driving Jen’s car.
Embarrassing with him dropping her off a predator
He yawns. He’s exhausted. Long day huh Stephan. SA, murder, carrying body around, driving everywhere, flat tire, hiding body, more driving, drive back and forth to north port, interviews
You have to understand, he is not a morning person. 😅
He’s so zonked from all the meds
A normal person would be filled with adrenaline and unable to sleep until absolutely exhausted.
I think Jennifer knew all about what this monster has done to her daughter,I think she should be arrested,I think she is afraid of him,
She's not afraid of him. She sold her to him. By way of getting the rent paid.
Who else was poor Maddie sold to. It says she was drugged in many if not all the photos
Not afraid. After she saw the pictures of what he had done to HER daughter, she called his parents and advised them they should get HIM an attorney. She was only protecting him. 😤🤬
I don’t think she’s afraid at all.
How gross him talking about PMS… 🤢👿
She’s a child! He’s twisted!
@@TheEfunk15so twisted
Really 🚩
The Female Detective, she is not buying Stephen's story. The factory reset...I heard alarm bells go off in her head!
All our heads jokes on him it’s stored in the I cloud
This scumbag is such a liar.
My favorite part of this video was when the female police officer asked him for his phone and he then had to make the statement that he “accidentally” factory reset his phone!! I thought he was going to drop when she later asked if she could keep it.
Why do these guys and gals always forget about the cloud?
They also forgot that LE knows when they are being BS’d.
You creeps out there might as well just confess. If the police have you dead to rights, the best defense attorneys will not get you off.
Plead guilty and save the victim’s family and friends more suffering.