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JENNIFER SOTO: Disturbing Evidence of Sleeping Arrangements & Police Interviews | Madeline Soto Case
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It seems that we are being desensitized to censorship.
The mother put Madeline in the grasp of her abuser and KILLER👹 and acted like she did NOTHING WRONG
CHARGE her too
This all happened today. It takes her THAT LONG to answer simple questions, it's weird.
@@annvassallo2604 i hear that
Love how the lady detective didn't take sht from JS and that other creeeeep, SS. I don't even like saying their names. Also, I don't like how MALE detectives in law enforcement potentially get off seeing child crime pics. I also think it's a bit cringe that our society allows MALE doctors to look at female bodies...including GYN/Obstetrics. There needs to be legislation on these issues.
If you needed a good night's rest so bad, tell him to go home. You DO NOT send yOuR mAn to sleep in the same bed as your daughter!!! 😡😡
I'm a mother and I just can't imagine I'd sleep very well knowing my little girl was behind closed doors, over night in a twin sized bed with a 38 year old man. And remember, Jen has known this man for 7 years at least. It's safe to say she probably has an idea of what kind of man he is. She should have come up with a better story bc this whole I needed a good rest nonsense narrative really just shows how guilty she actually is.
@@Jireh0309 I find it odd how 13 year old Maddie ALWAYS sleeps in the bed with them. That's an age where kids demand boundaries
@@QuietQueenie could be multiple reason if you talking Maddie perspectives, groomed, id imagine sleeping in the a open space room with zero lock next to a sliding door alone in the darks quite scary for a young girl, I remember me at 11 12 and getting my own room for the first time took me a month or more at least to not be scared of nothing now compared that to a living space. And when he isn't there she still sleep with her mom in a room.
A TWIN BED ALSO.🤬🤬🤬
@QuietQueenie it's just an excuse for SS to sleep with Maddie and make the whole sleeping matter, accepted by outsiders
As a former child protection investigator there are any number of red flags from the mother’s statements. On that jumped out to me was the mother saying her daughter was “forgetful”; that Madeline would “lost track of time” and take showers over an hour long. No mom, she was obsessively washing off the filth that she experienced from the sexual abuse. This is a common behavior of abused children and teens.
How could a mother be so completely ignorant unless it’s willful? It goes against every basic instinct built into the fibers of a mother. “No Jenn, your daughter is in the shower because your boyfriend can lock her in the bathroom with him for an hour.” 😠 Poor Madeline, nobody was protecting her. Not even her own mother.
Also spending a long time in the bathroom where maybe she could be safe and not in that bedroom 😢
Agreed
Her insistence on listing Maddie’s “issues” are a HUGE red flag. She’s maximizing these to cover up her own enormous criminal flaws. No decent mom would ever discuss this when their child is missing and in presumed harm.
Why was there clothes together in the basket it’s almost like they were a couple huge red flag !! Jenn is guilty
Please please please put Jen Soto in jail. She handed her daughter to a pervert. Charge her with neglect and child endangerment please
Jenn is complicit in her daughter's redrum.
did you watch the video where it shows that she suggested sexual abuse was "not evil"?
@@SueP-jg9vx I didn't see that one.. this lady knew... ( USING THE TERM LADY VERY LOSLEY) SHE NEEDS TO BE LOCKED UP!!
@@katrinaschuster6341 yes. i mean its complicated because there are thousands and thousands of mothers who look the other way or stay in denial and they never get jail time. I couldn't watch much of this case cuz it was too disturbing but some have said that the mother sounds "slow"...so perfect storm for that pervert. The police won't charge the mom if she is a little "off" and seems easily manipulated or somehow "meek". Also, they would have to prove that she knew 100% what was going on and Maddie is not here to testify
@@SueP-jg9vx I have not seen any of the footage, so I don't really know if she is complicit. What I DO know is the predators look for these types of overwhelmed mothers, simply so they CAN prey on their children.
One thing I didn't hear in this police interview was no urgency in mom's voice. Absolutely none. Mind blowing!!!!
Right? Like I did my blood work Yay! And then I came back, yay! Really odd behavior knowing what she knows in that moment that her daughter is missing. She gives exact times and can recall perfectly phone calls and “I dropped her off” then says “err we dropped her off”
No urgency, no grief, no terror
Absolutely
She seemed nervous like she may have known he did it or was involved too
@@Theresa443 on too many meds.
I cried for two days when my 37 year old son moved 400 miles away and she hasn’t been seen to cry AT ALL about her 13 year old CHILD.
Same here. I cried for a week when my 18 year old son took a bus to Yellowstone to work for the summer as a Chef. Something is off with this Woman. Where are the tears, the worry, and emotion?
I live at a distance from my home town, and my mum still worries about me. She especially likes to know that I’m home safe in the evening. I’m 45! 💕😁
Two days?
400 miles?
That’s a long way.
And a choice .
@@nowirehangers2815 What kind of a response is this to what she said? Are you trying to imply her son moved 400 miles away because of her? I guess I just don't understand what point you're trying to make...
I’m furious!! Can you imagine the child sleeping in an open area in the house? That mother did not provide her child any privacy, protection, or love!! That poor child was FAILED miserably by every single adult in her life. How do you not notice for 5 years that a child in your family is uncomfortable around somebody? Like what the hell. The poor girl had dark circles under her eyes. That doesn't just happen for no reason.The more I hear about Jen in documents the more I'm disgusted at her.That poor child, Jenn did not care for her, not one bit!!!
She needed a room with a lock on it....not just some flimsy room partition in the living room.
Maddie didn't sleep in the partitioned area in the living room. She slept with her Mom or Stephan or both. JS is a compulsive liar. She has excuses for SS's deviant behavior of 7 years. Sadly, Maddie didn't want McDonald's because she was deceased. RIP Maddie💜
She needs to be charged with the same as that monster. People need to learn.
So far as we know they have video evidence since 2022 so 2 years doesn't make anything better or worse...but it was for 2 years not 5 or 7
@@orianjuarez3074totally 5 yrs. codependent drugged up mother. Pair of them utterly disgusting. Poor wee girl , if it turns out maddie told people then how sad. Did she have anyone really looking out for her ? Don’t think so. Tragic.
How is this woman not in CUFFS??? She served her daughter on a silver platter to this predator. She failed Maddie in the worst way 😡😭💔
Can we do a citizens arrest? 😮
EVERYONE IS SAYING THAT RIGHT NOW!!!!! She needs to go to jail!
HOW MANY MOTHERS SEND THEIR 12YR OLD UP TO BED W/A PERVERT? 😳
SO SHE CAN SLEEP? 😳
ARE U EFIN KIDDING ME?
😭😭😭😭
R.I.P. MADDIE ❤
I agree...I am furious hearing that monster speak. It's truly unbelievable.
I literally have been grinding my teeth listening to this!!! The woman( because she doesn’t deserve the title of “Mother”) should be locked up! I’m wondering why Dad didn’t have joint custody which might have protected her?
What “mother” with a straight face can say “I sent them to the guest room to bed because I needed some good sleep”? This woman is so disgusting and I can’t believe they haven’t charged her. Her lies make me sick.
yeah, she needed a good night's sleep for a part-time job she wouldn't even go to that day WTF
Honestly, I doubt she "wanted good sleep" but rather she "had a headache" and wanted him to "occupy" himself with her daughter.
I'm not happy to even consider this, but human (or INhuman) nature is just too common.
A shocking number of parents p*mp their kids out.
I'm convinced that she knew and allowed her bf to hurt her daughter.
She didn't even attend her daughters party, and "sent them to bed" together half an hour after she got home and couldn't get up in the morning to see her off to school after not seeing Maddie ALL weekend
@@DamePiglet I agree 💯
And she didn't even have to work the next day so she could have gotten more sleep the next day if she needed to.
This is one of the worst mothers I’ve ever seen. This baby wasn’t autistic or adhd, it was the abuse Jenn was allowing to happen that made her have “issues”. I’ve never heard a mother blame their child of so much, while missing none the less! If my baby were missing there’s no way I could even form the words to blame or be critical of anything about my child. She doesn’t miss this child, she assisted in her abuse and death. Jen needs to be charged. End of story.
Great comment. I completely agree.
My husband said to me, “babe you were more distraught when our dog was missing than JS is when her only child was missing”
She almost seems glad to be rid of her “competition”
Sick sick woman
How can she confidently say she sent her child to bed in a small twin with one pillow, lube, a loaded gun, a tripod, several locks and a grown ass man and not be completely embarrassed?? Does she not hear herself??
Her meds ment way more to her than her own child . Anyone taking the sheer amount of drugs Jenn was taking can not be a vigilant parent and shouldn't be driving either .
She knew that man was sexually abusing her child, why else would a grown man want to sleep with a 13 year old? She let this happen in order to keep her man. She needs to be charged also.
@@rebeccanorris8687 ‼️‼️‼️💯
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Oh yes she knew maybe to keep the boyfriend
I am sick and tired of seeing these so called “mothers” choosing their boyfriends over their own children. I’m just sick of it.
Keep a watch over single mothers with young children that have boyfriends. We have to start watching out for these kids. This Stephan character was drugging Maddie. Someone somewhere had to have seen something.
I am tired of mothers getting away with everything. They have special rules that apply to them that do not apply to fathers.
Years ago my daughter's friend was always at our house,and I mean always,she wanted to spend the night at the girls house,never meeting the mother,I said,I have to see the house meet the mom. They lived in a one bedroom apt,I asked where the daughter sleeps,she pointed to a roll out couch,red flag one, why didn't the daughter have the room? Her and her boyfriend had the bedroom,red flag two. Her daughter desperately needed braces,but the mom joked she got new breast,red flag three,you'd rather have boobs than braces for your buck toothed daughter,who was picked on for? Priorities matter to me. The tattoo guy was overtly affectionate with the mom in front of me red flag four. I told my daughter I forgot an early morning breakfast we were to go to,and got to the car and explained I don't trust those people,and she was never to be there ever. Their friendship dwindled,and I often wonder what happen to her,but I can't save the world,but I can protect my child.
She IS a mother. The definition of mother is a woman who had one or more children.
There are too many bad mothers out there, sadly.
@@helenstockman3499100% I used to work at my local YMCA (I retired after 15 years during the pandemic), and one of the trainings that ALL Y employees have to take is called Darkness to Light, and it's to help you catch signs that a child maybe physically or SA'ed. Too bad something like that isn't available for the general public.
What woman tells her boyfriend to sleep in the same bed as her child it's disgusting.
@@ChristyKlossAlso a little while after they are talking about that, they are talking about how she didn't even have work that day, so I am really not understanding why it was so important that she get such a good night's rest, that she couldn't have her daughter or boyfriend in the room with her and they had to sleep together in a separate room, so that she could make sure she slept well. 🙄 It sounds like a rather poorly thought up excuse for an inexcusable situation.
I can't believe they're saying she hasn't broken any laws!! She gave her t a predator how is that not a crime???
@@ripley8aliensmom72 unfortunately it happens far too often. I have an ex friend who let that happen. Those poor kids. Cps was called numerous times. She always got her kids back and continued to let things happen. The system really fails these kids.
28:08 HIS boxers are in Maddie's bedroom clothes hamper. What in the world?! That poor girl. Not a safe space in that home. And who were these ROOMMATES?!
An evil selfish one that’s who
The officer wasn’t believing her from the start.
She doesn’t hesitate for a second when it comes to explaining why Maddie got in trouble, but she can’t recall anything about her daughter’s location, habits, etc.
The dog getting nervous is a clear and only clue we needed. They can sense peoples energy.
I was thinking the same.
Yes!!!!!
I Had the Same Thought!
@@leesoo9037 the dog probably sensed the killing or death 😭.
Yes, but don't think that just because a dog exhibits excitement or submissive urination that it _automatically means they're being abused or "sensing someone's negative energy."_ It's actually quite a common behavior in many dogs, especially puppies and then with the right training, they grow out of it, but some never do. You can Google excitement/submissive urination in dogs.
I'm saying this as a certified dog trainer with over 20 years of continued education and experience. I just don't want y'all to think that someone is a "bad person" because their dog exhibits a common behavior for dogs. This guy was a monster no doubt, but some dogs just have this urination behavior naturally. Some breeds are very prone to having it like Cocker Spaniels for example.
Maddie didn’t have ADHD, she wasn’t borderline Autistic. She was traumatized by Jenn Soto giving Stephan Sterns access to Maddie! The victim blaming is shocking! 😡
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I agree, I’ve listened to hours of police interviews with many different people and am convinced, it was trauma. When he left, her grades got better, she was happier in school and got Student of the Week! She slept most days at school, who kept her up all night? Oh, and she got herself off her drugs for 2 months after he left and she was thriving. Poor baby girl.
Exactly! It's heartbreaking hearing her teachers talk about how much anxiety she had. Her forgetfulness, anxiety, trouble sleeping, etc, is a trauma response. She suffered so much.
saying Maddie didn't even know she'd been in the shower for a whole hour....that poor girl didn't WANT to get out of the shower because of what was waiting for her, @mmklaar6948 I totally agree with you it really is non-stop victim blaming throughout every interview and the sighing at each question and the "I'm going to say like..." if sx crimes was interviewing me about my missing daughter I would have been ugly crying since the moment they said she hadn't turned up at school and frantic with worry. Poor Maddie :(
@@celticrose2148 Can't wash away that kind of sh*t . . .
I'm in Orlando, and the entire community I know is stunned that nothing has been done in the way of charges. We're all hoping justice is served, but we don't want charges to be rushed to be subsequently dismissed. What's done in the dark will, eventually, come to light. Absolutely heartbreaking.
SHE NEEDS TO BE ARRESTED!!!!! She caused this.
@@jenx818oh I believe she will be
Charges will be coming they just need to make sure they have everything they need to make a solid case. No one wants a mistral.
@@jonaeflure 100%. You only get one bite at the apple, they're just gathering everything together. 💚
I’m glad he’s in Florida, he’ll get some good punishment.
Chomo won’t last long in jail.
Jenn needs to be arrested
I speculate that JS will be charged with child endangerment. After SS is convicted & sentenced.🤷♀️
@@orianjuarez3074 I damn sure hope so!💔
Agree. 😢
They said the other day there will be no charges.
@@orianjuarez3074 They done said the other day no charges.
When Jennifer asked the cop if he was going to keep Madeline's phone"forever" made me sick. She 100% knew her daughter was not coming back, the officer said well no, I'll give it back to her when she hopefully comes home. She is disgustingly guilty of allowing this man to take full violation of sweet innocent soul Madeline... her journal entry was says it all.... 🥺😣😭
@@MissTaleah I thought the exact same thing it was a very odd and suspicious thing to say. Mom was involved and soon Stephan will start telling police.
@amirahk3860 right?! I was in disbelief listening to her talk as if it was an everyday conversation!
@@MissTaleah yeah
But you're explaining about your daughter being dropped off when you clearly asked your boyfriend to drop your daughter off. So wouldn't you be upset with the police and asking the police? Why don't you ask him? He dropped my daughter off last and you're not seeing any of that. And then you said your daughter has ADHD and other learning disability problems. So why were you so hard on her and putting her on the punishment when clearly it's a disability she's dealing with. So you would have been more caring as a mom knowing she had these disabilities but yet you were hard on her . Then you let her sleep in the bed with your boyfriend. How do you think her father would have felt knowing this?
@@amirahk3860he can't without implicating himself if he is trying to say he didn't do it
This thing about "Room 4" -- this was a torture chamber for this child.
When Jenn says "I sent them upstairs to sleep so I could get some rest" (or words to that effect), the meaning seems quite clear: She's sending her child to be tortured.
The way Jenn qualifies so many of her answers with, "I'm gonna say.." gives me pause. It's like, there is the truth of what happened then there is what Jenn is "gonna say".
Wording matters. I've thought that same thing!! 💥 🎯
@@cosmicshy637 The good thing is that it serves to highlight the areas where she appears to be giving a rehearsed story rather than an organic truth. When asked about other things like how long Maddie has had ADHD, she always answers fluidly without that qualifier.
@@TheJilly1337totally agree
@TheJilly1337 👍 🎯🎯 You nailed it!👏👏
Good point!
This woman is a terrible liar. She should not be given immunity if she happens to testify against this monster. She needs to be held accountable
prosecution doesn't need Jen's testimony
@@izzy-qq4xsWas going to say the same thing. You would think they would rather charge Jenn for her involvement rather than cut her a favorable deal...
Agree!! Tired of women getting special treatment in our criminal systems. MEN2 Movement
Right absolutely
@@BridgetStaats Seriously!! I'm with you. The criminal justice system going soft on our fellow women continues to send a message that they are entitled to be so selfish and unhinged and won't be held accountable.
1. Why the heck did this child not have her OWN bed?
2. Why the heck did this women not only allow, but ENCOURAGE her boyfriend to sleep in the same bed with her daughter?
3. Why, at no point in the interviews does she break down or show any emotions? She said she “panicked” at one point but can calmly tell the story twice without being upset in the least?
4. Why the heck did her daughter have a birthday party at a time when neither her mom or her mom’s boyfriend could make it to her OWN party???
@@samanthaquant7411 - and WHERE is her biological father???! I know she has one & is a few hours away & even that she would visit him, although, not often at all. But that’s it!! Where is/was HE this whole time??!
The father lives in Houston texas@@k.ohalloran8758
@@k.ohalloran8758 I wondered the same. The mother is obviously neglectful AT BEST, that is obvious to everyone. But where the hell is her father?? And how the hell is he ok with his daughter's living arrangements? Why hasn't he taken her to live with him, or at least been more involved?
She offers up info about going to Mcdonald's and throws in "but she didn't want to go and he kept insisting". I would be a complete wreck and not able to talk or hold it together with this investigator. She is way too calm.
@@k.ohalloran8758we have an idea of what her taste in men is like. Bio Dad is definitely gonna have his special defects.
This sweet child never was seen, heard, taken care, listened or loved by nobody in her short life. Heartbreaking... Shame, shame of them. Unbelievable!!
As a mother myself there would be no way I would be missing at my child's 13th birthday party, it's a milestone age, becoming a teenager. She had plenty of time to arrange the day off with work!!
@@linzisouthernwood482 my parents did not have jobs that they could easily take off of for things like that. Even if we were sick, my grandmothers had to pick us up from school. So it's not necessarily a case of neglect there.
@FourEyedRaven88 I disagree, she had plenty of time to arrange a day off from work. My parents worked too, so did I, I wouldn't have missed a milestone birthday but we all have our own opinions 🤷♀️
No way if your still in training is your employer going to let you take off for a birthday party.
@LisaAlways-f2g well over here in the UK when you start a new job your employer has to honour any time off that you have planned beforehand and I would certainly plan that day off.
@@Lisa-r6u1wwas just going to say the same thing. She did have a new job.
It’s not against the law to have your teenage daughter sleep with your boyfriend in the same bed?
Child endangerment?!
I don’t even know what to say..
Did this child not have her own room?!
The more I hear the more livid I get.
It's not against the law..but it's common sense! And I never slept with my mom as a child. Even if I had a bad dream or thunderstorm my mother would comfort me until I fale asleep
@@lynnfitzpatrick528 My mother slept with me on/off till I was about 5 or 6. I had breathing problems when I came into this world. I finally out grew it.
Most men would say absolutely not
Where were the families? They HAD to have known what was happening in that apartment.
@ivonna.tinkle apparently she had a portioned off area as a bedroom. Why wouldn't you just send her to her own area and him to the guest room?
Jenn literally said the SA stuff isnt evil... She needs to be in jail. She is one of the worst mothers I've ever heard of. She makes me sick! Every time I look at her I'm filled with rage! Poor Maddie..
@@VictoriaMarch13 due to that answer, was she sa when she was young and throughout her childhoodhood.
Did she tell the police it was not evil? I'm trying to find the source of this information.
@@VictoriaMarch13 can you put a time stamp so we can hear it I’ve been fast forwarding a lot cuz she’s full of crap
@@hope4all366No....That was an investigators interpretation. Not in quotes like her other statements
You are not alone, There Both Discusting neither had any business being responsible for a child,
Jenn really has the nerve to say that the main reason Maddie gets in trouble is because she's messy and disorganized... Has she seen her own room/closet/bathroom??? Maddie's small room area was way more clean and organized than Jenns. Man, she makes me sick!
Wtf she had no room, what pre teen doesn't have there own room! This b better go down!
The mother should be arrested also , she put her child in grave situations
That house was a Freaking Mess!🌹
Lock Jenn up!
Also she says she’s forgetful and a slow learner at school, well if you were drugged with heavy sedation meds Miss Jen mother of the year you too would be forgetful and have trouble learning. That poor child.
I hate how JS says Maddie’s friends/the school told her “Maddie never made it to school” a friend would say “Maddie didn’t come to school today” or “wasn’t at school” saying never made it implies someone took her before she could reach school
I've seen big houses, houses with many rooms, mansions... but I've never seen anyone number their own spare room before. And it's interesting that when they ask to take Maddy's phone, Jen asks "forever?" The detective corrects her and has to remind her that there's supposed to be the possibility of her coming back. Awkward.
@@readdeeply9278 😵😵
I'm a former Child Protection Supervisor in WA state. My opinion is that mom should be charged with child endangerment- at the very least. Bad. Bad, bad choices!! It's so sad to know that people continue to put others in danger- even though there is a constant flow of information educating on how to be safe, DV issues, mental health, trafficking, etc. And then there is this mom who lets her daughter sleep alone in a bed with her grown up boyfriend. Then mom goes to sleep elsewhere. WTF. I'm shaking my head in disbelief. Poor girl- poor girl. It's a very sad story. 😢
@@DeDe-AyurvedicLiving apparently all the resources in the world are useless if you have zero morals and care only for yourself
If Jenn didn't want her child, she should have let her go live with her father and stepmother in Texas. They wanted her. But no, Jenn used Maddie to keep enticing Stephan to come back and spend time with her in the condo, no matter the cost to Maddie. Jenn is most likely mentally ill but should be arrested.
Madeline’s safe place is supposed to be her mother. When she threatened to send her to her fathers she locked the door on Madeline telling her what Stefan was doing. Jen made it clear that Madeline’s needs and issues were SECONDARY to Jens needs. Jen gets the private master bedroom with a king size bed. If Madeline had to sleep in her bed it would be in the middle of all the traffic in the living room. Her daughter’s grades tanked, she was sleeping in class- and Jen needed a good nights sleep. Jen was moving Stefan in and out being manchilds mother and neglecting the very basic needs of her daughter. I don’t buy Jens demeanor AT ALL. She’s a covert narcissist with bipolar disorder. IMO
What happened between 11pm and 7:30 am ? How do you strangled a 13 year old to death with no noise? Were the roommates home? I thought her father still lived at that apartment?
Child endangerment sounds like it wasn't on purpose. I believe it was all intentional.
She should go to jail, for a very long time.
She doesn't care! No tears, no worries, no care in the world, for her own daughter.
You are right though, at the very least, child endangerment.
How many adults (roommates) are living in this apartment with this child? No real bedroom for Madeline? What? No emotion. Another parent that acts like parenting is an inconvenience.
I can understand situations where maybe the mom and daughter would share a bedroom because finances are tight and they have roommates taking up all the other rooms. What I think is inexcusable is her sending a grown a$$ man to go sleep with her daughter because she wanted the king size bed all to herself. It’s like, why is her boyfriend not sleeping with her and then Maddie sleeps in the bedroom upstairs by herself? There’s no way this mom didn’t know it was happening.
I just dropped my last child off to college this past weekend and I wish I could go back and have a few more years ya know? I can’t believe some women have been so degraded in their thinking. It’s like everyone is possessed 😞
Mother stated in a police interview she had 2 female roommates. Not seen any interviews with those roommates.
@@denisewilson9783 Probably won't see them.
100 percent ❤
When she says sleepy in the car Madeline was actually dead. So sad that little girl was killed right after her birthday and not one tear from mom. I cant wait to see her in jail.
why go to school if she is sooo tired . if jenn had day off to sleep why not maddie . mom said she only spent 1/2 hr when she home from work to spend time with maddie . geesh on her bday and made stephan take her to school while she is tired . my goodness. they both say she has adhd when asked on phone - sound pre pemeditated statements
She couldn't sleep with her 13 yr old daughter?!!😢😢😢 Maddie wasn't a newborn nd start crying every hr ...why acting like Maddie wS a baby?!
They say they have nothing to arrest her for. Unbelievable
Sleepy in the morning at school hour ? That Stephen is really crazy
@@ellybean5868they actually say she’s been cleared & has been cleared this entire time. They have found zero wrong doing, has not committed any crimes, knew nothing whatsoever of what Stephen was doing or what he did, & that she is a victim, which they have been saying this the entire time. It’s been the media & creators thag have been lying & now many are being sued & the LE & FBI are going to be behind Jenn for the way she’s been treated.
As a mother, Jen sounds like she is telling the detective how her vacation was. She doesn't sound like a distraught mother whose daughter is missing!
The insanity of driving a dead Madeline around in the front seat of the car makes me sick! Stephan Sterns is evil. Horrific!
Seeing everything in Madeline’s backpack made me want to cry. No more school for Madeline. No more friendships, birthdays, graduations. No more life.
I don’t care what Jen’s mental health status is or IQ or personal history with sexual abuse. Bringing Stephan in the house and letting her daughter sleep in the same bed with him is outrageous! She can play innocent, bat her eyes, play helpless all she wants. She is a rotten person.
Absolutely monstrous !!!!
A 13 y/o girl does not need help getting ready for school. The mother has some serious issues!
From what they say, it seems like they treated her much younger than she was. If they were infantilizing her, that’s a form of child abuse. They weren’t letting her build any autonomy which is what should happen naturally as a person progresses into adulthood. Doing this would have made her question her own ability to do the most basic things - things she was completely capable of doing. It’s a form of emotional and psychological child abuse. Some people refer to these parents as “lawn mower parents.”
Or " for bed! " And i don't think they were infantalizing her, i think they were hanging around letching after her
And if supposedly he was supposedly helping to get her ready for school then why did she forget her phone and why did he forget his phone also ?
We know why.
My daughter is 14 and still needs me to wake her up and help her get ready. I have to make sure she's up and out the door by 6:15am. My daughter has ODD, ADHD, and OCD.
So it's a possibility that she did need help. However, her mother should've been helping her, not Stephan Stearns!
She also shouldn't have been sleeping in the same bed as Stearns either!
Or bed for that matter!!!!
She doesn't sound the least upset by her daughter missing.I wouldn't be able to stop crying to answer questions.
She even laughed a couple of times.
@@psychokitty7268yep she sounds happy at time by her tone and the way she's replying, like she in a play
@@psychokitty7268I was gonna post the same response. How the Hell can she laugh under the circumstances?!
I noticed that as well and was just going to comment how disturbing and infuriating it is to hear how calm and giggly she is while her daughter is missing.
She wasn't bonded with her daughter. If she was indeed autistic, the bonding process may be more difficult. Children with autism are also abused and neglected at much higher rates than neurotypical children.
There’s nothing wrong with having roommates but why wasn’t her own daughter given priority to have her own bedroom? It’s like she is treating her like another pet.
@@cpeace3172 that part but had a whole fucking guest room. Don't make no sense
Jenn seemed to be more concerned with her dog’s needs
@@rdw2457I noticed that too…
Who has a guest room but not a room for her own kid is what is racking my brain. And to send her daughter in a room with a grown man is beyond crazy who even does that.
I have a sneaking suspicion Jenn was p1mping Maddie out.
Even Stephen's mother mentioned it in leaked jailhouse convos between the 2 of them.
If this mother is not charged 😤, there is no justice in this world 😢
That was not a normal mother. It was an enabler.
That poor young child didn't have a chance in life.
May Madeline's soul rest in eternal peace.
More than just peace; that baby girl is with her Father who has wiped away all her tears. All of her pain is forgotten and she is so overwhelmed by the music that there is room for nothing else but joy.
This mom is more upset about her apartment and her meds than her daughter
She’s so complicit
So you’re telling me Jen left her house at 2:30pm to wait in the parent pick up line for an hour and a half? Then ONLY waited 10 minutes for Maddie after the bell rings? and then went to the Office to find out she wasn’t there all day and then drove around? She doesn’t even seem concerned You have got to be kidding me there is something seriously wrong here she’s lying and covering for herself.
She's aloof
Does not know her child.
SMH
She left. She didn't go into the school.
Yep that’s exactly what happened.. she’s full of s… no way a mother is not going to know when things like this happened. She knew and was fully ok w it.. she even said her (Jenn) and Stephan sex life was nonexistent and he didn’t have a job.. why is he even there.. hell has a special place for “mothers” like this
I think they planned this together. Something is so off about them
She needs to be arrested NOW!!
I agree! She needs to be charged with trafficking and accessory to murder.
Child neglect and endangering the welfare of a child? Idk whatever the cops have evidence to support.
Yes, she needs to be charged with something or try to change the law to have these mothers charged with trafficking of some kind. This is horrible how she fails her beautiful little girl.😢😢😢😢
SHE SERVED HER DAUGHTER TO HER BOYFRIEND. THIS ISNT NORMAL WTF
Alot of woman are in prison for this type of crime. THIS IS A CRIME TO SERVE YOUR BOYFRIEND
My mother always said she'd never leave my brother's or I alone with a grown man when I was a child, even uncles or anything. It didn't matter, only exception was my father and even than she always said no one is to touch us. It's a mother's responsibility to care for a child. What right mind allows this.
She flat out lied about dropping her daughter off at school. First she said I dropped her off, then we dropped her off. So many things in what she says and how she says them gives me pause.
So disturbing. This grown man had no job. And what mother says "we were all going to sleep together"? That's messed up! IMO, she is complicit. I'll guess that Maddie told him, no more. She was sick of the abuse
That “mom” better be charged with SOMETHING. 🤬
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It was obvious to me from the beginning this callous woman didn't just fail to protect her child. She hated her. She obviously knew what was going on, didn't give a flying f*** about her daughter, and frankly sounds relieved that a "rival" is gone.
What leaps out to me is when the detective asks JS if he can have Maddie’s phone to check it and JS says “”Are you going to keep it forever?”
This is that first night after reported missing… when you think your child is just missing… why you ask that??
Its not normal
I really hope they bring charges on the mother! Because she is the main reason this precious child is gone!!!!
This “mother” didn’t get her a present, or go to her birthday party. Her grandmother bought her a dress and gave her the party. Jenn couldn’t attend, she was too tired, and didn’t get time off of work for her 13th Birthday.
Sad ..she probably die thinking her mom didn't love her
Yeah, who does that?
@@nessa3792That hurts my heart so much.
@@nessa3792I thinks ,it's sad that she thinks she does love her.
You wouldn't know her daughter is missing. any other mother would be in tears
Where is the father in all this? Why/ wasn't he checking to make sure Maddie was okay?
They’d have to sedate me-I’d go insane!!!
I definitely wouldn't be able to talk. 100% i would have to be sedated.
Lots of victims of S.A trauma take long showers to cry, was off the dirt they feel from the perpetrator and privacy. I’m also surprised the safe school arrival didn’t go into alert. Thank you Hidden True Crime for telling M story .
Yes that is true about taking long showers. Even after 20 years. It never goes away !
The fact that Jenn is not charged for child neglect is infuriating!
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I can’t even imagine not kissing my child goodbye every morning before school. In America with all these school shootings? Absolutely not. I don’t believe a word out of this woman’s mouth. She knew she was gone.
I have to share this personal story. When my daughter was around 14 she told me that her dad was picking her up to spend time with her over at his apartment. She went outside to wait for him. I was waiting up for her and it was getting very, very late. I called her father to ask him when he was going to take her back home and he told me that he didn’t see her this evening. So, he suggested I call the police.
I was beside myself. Not far after I called the police she came in the door.
I remember just being hysterical with her because this never happened before.
Based on her age and my reaction I can’t believe how calm and unfazed her mother is.
My daughter never lied to me about this type of thing again but I was scared!!!
People say that Jenn was on meds, but there are no meds in this world that would stop a mom from going into a complete panic mode when her child is in danger.
Any time a child is missing, even for a few minutes in the store, the feeling of fear is explosive. I remember being JCP and there was a Code Adam. Every single person was looking everywhere. My heart was racing and it wasn’t even my kid! He was found safe but had wandered out into the mall.
This. Comment of the day! This is how normal mothers would react
I would be the very same myself this mother is just nonchalant I just can’t understand why she not charged
My mum would be the same, even now in my 40s.
Two despicable adults that failed to protect this precious child. May she rest in peace without trauma and pain 😢
More than two! All those relatives and roommates, too!
Where were all those people who claim to know this guy????
THEY FOUND PIX ON STERNS PHONE ENGAGED “IN ACTS”
W/THIS VICTIM! 😭
@@Ad-Lodefinitely
Don't forget her bio father, he absolutely failed her too.
Her mother doesn’t sound like she liked her daughter at all.
Don’t you just hate the victim blaming! Maddie doesn’t know her addy, she couldn’t find her way out of a paper bag the this MONSTER describes her child! It’s shocking! 😡😡😡
She reminds me of lori Vallow daybell sickning
Maddie was apparently her rival
I think she saw her daughter as competition.
Your sentence doesn't make sense
We care more about Madeline more than Jen ever did.😢
MOM: "Will you take her phone forever?" That raises a lot of questions. Did she know she was dead already and want to keep her memories? Guilty....so unbelievable. Maddie clearly wrote she has severe trauma when encountering males.... Jesus, may her soul rest in peace.
Great catch. Does speak volumes of what JS knew about Maddie never coming home so early on.
Every time I hear her say I sent them upstairs to sleep together my blood boils & just want to scream !
Same when I hear her talk about the McDonald's nonsense...
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"She doesn't even realize when she's been in the shower for an hour"
That hits so hard. Poor Baby
Because she high on ativan
@@danielleburke87 Because she's trying to wash Stephens filthy touch away
@@debbiemohekey1509You are right on the button unfortunately 😞
@@TinfoilHatThoughts that was her place of freedom
@@debbiemohekey1509 Poor baby couldn't feel clean
She wasnt embarrased of his car, she was embarrased of him.
He wasn't even driving that Buick he was using his dad's car .
Yes I thought the exact same thing, she felt shameful being seen with him because of what he was doing to her
I thought that too. Plus when the interviewer asked Jennifer about how Maddie had expressed the embarrassment of the car she replied all the time..when they suggest him taking her or picking her up…except she said he only took her maybe one other time. How’s that al the time..
Put this so-called "mother" behind bars and throw away the key.
There was a “guest bedroom” but Maddie had no room of her own?!! The mom seems so unconcerned even when she says she doesn’t think Maddie is gone on her own and must have been taken.
I would not be able to get through an interview like this without UTTERLY breaking down in tears frequently.
@@samanthaquant7411 if you were innocent you would be inconsolable…not her!😡
How this is not child abuse ENABLEMENT is beyond my understanding 😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡
jen said she yelled at Maddie for not cleaning her room , she didn't have a room
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My 3 teenagers and I had to make do with a small 2 bedroom apt for a few months once.
My daughter got the smaller bedroom to herself , the two boys shared the bigger bedroom.
I took the couch.Obviously .
Poor Maddie 😢
Not to mention , why would she, that house was a disorganized nightmare! What a hypocrite she is!!
To a mother, this would be the worst day of her life... But this one... My God, the calmness in her voice...
It was the awkward chuckle when saying "we usually sleep in the same bed" she laughed because she knows it's ridiculous 😡
I think Jenn helped SS dispose of her body which means she most likely knew about the abuse because if I had come home or found out my bf killed my daughter, he'd be dead, and I would call for help. Her not calling the police that morning to report a homicide in her home tells me everything I need to know about her involvement. I think charges will be coming her way in time.
She likely helped him because she knew it was going to come back on her because of how she’d been allowing him to abuse her child.
I think Maddie might have been pregnant and he ended up strangulating her to death or something because he would be found out as the monster he is !!!! Rest in heaven Maddie girl forever 13 ❤
She knew he was abusing her because she allowed him to !! That’s a fact
@@lalaescobarrI’ve wondered that.
Let's not make excuses for JS. She is just as guilty as he is! why isn't she charged???? She lies and swears to it! I have never seen one tear! Not even on the extended family! Disgusting, vile, and gross! But don't worry God will get you! IMO
Agree!! Its strange isnt it? Something is not right here..with Jennifer.
I agree with your opinion.
Not one tear. I'd be crying a river..
She'll get charged their just getting their ducks in a row...
@@debijo5288doubt it
I cant shake the feeling he took that little girls life because she had a crush on someone her own age... that's just so sick
I agree,he was wifing maddie up.
This is beyond bizarre.
Jen has got to go.
Or maybe she had threatened to tell someone about his sexual abuse!? Someone who cared.. (like a teacher or counselor)…. NOT her ‘mother’.. 😡
@@chrissieroxba2949the egg donor...
Seriously! when Jen mentioned the recent crush and the texts the hairs on the back of my neck went straight up.
All because of an implied " CRUSH ".
Might not have even been real.
Now the little girl is GONE.
We must as a society ADDRESS MENTAL ILLNESS.
SO many problems in AMERICA.
Lauren, it baffles me how the mom is reacting so calm with a missing 13-year-old daughter! Really need Dr.John's perspective on this...🤔
Messy house. Speaks volumes. To live in a mess means there s also a mess in this persons head.
Please continue to follow this horrific, disgusting story. Justice for precious Maddy!
Horrible woman, let alone “mother.” Complicit and guilty as hell. My heart breaks for what Madeline endured in her short life. 😞❤
She knew he was molesting her child. She didn't care. Disgusting!
The fact she didn't seem to react very strongly when she was told the sex crimes division was taking over... telling...
His mother knew and I think Jenn's family knew.
Had one person stepped up to expose what was going on Maddie would still be alive.
Cus she was doing it too,
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So Maddie, who was living in an abusive and filthy environment, clutter everywhere and daily torture, was concerned about the car she would be seen in. Sounds believable Jen. The more new information that comes out about this the more I’m convinced Jen was a willing participant and it makes my stomach turn. Rest in peace Maddie. She had her whole life to live and yet the two pigs responsible are still breathing.
How specific is she when she says to the cop,” When he called me at 10:18”, but when you ask what time she left…a pause…she says,” l’m going to say around 9:30.”
I believe Maddie didn't have ADHD and that she was medicated for no reason. She was traumatized. This sweet little girl was going through literal hell. 😢 Rest in peace, Maddie. My God, it just breaks your heart.
Is it confirmed that she was on medication?
I so agree.
@@chilo8187 didn't SS tell the detective that her medication was on her nightstand? I could be wrong though.
@@SerenDipity64711 I was asking about Maddie not Jen. Jen was talking about her own medications not her daughters
I think they stole her medication to abuse themselves
Uuggg gross and sad. No sheets on the beds and he Madeline’s notebook says “I have severe trauma responses when I encounter all males”
So Jennifer sends her 13-year-old traumatized child to sleep with her boyfriend?! How is this ok Jen?!
I hope she’s prosecuted. I hope she’s been a lot of time in prison.
With the same man who have been traumatizing her 😮
That was JS writing practice for her disability application
The scribbled out part says "that resembles my perpetrator" 😮😮😮😮
Love your name😂😂😂
The fact that this sweet little girl was given this tiny space in the living room where HIS BOXERS are in the laundry basket sickens me.
Her mother sent her into that bedroom with the locks on the door to sleep with this disgusting pig. The mother needs to be held accountable. There’s no way she didn’t know something was happening.
I reckon she knew.
I've literally nearly chipped a tooth from clenching my teeth listening to this so called mother..who the hell sends a child to go to bed with their own friggin boyfriend? Never in my life have I heard of anyone openly admitting to this. This poor poor girl.
The contempt in literally everything Jennifer has to say about Maddie in the first hours she was missing…tells me everything I need to know about her. This little girl had nobody in her corner.
As a paralegal for my County DA, I’ve pretty much seen it all. But….this case. Oh my goodness. HEARTBREAKING 💔. GOD BLESS MADELINE 🙏🙏🙏
Why isn't the mother arrested??? Child Neglect and Endangerment. She caused this!
@@jenx818 Exactly!! It’s infuriating 😡. And to answer your question, I haven’t a clue. It makes absolutely ZERO sense. Child endangerment & child neglect at the very LEAST. I cannot imagine what they’re waiting for.
And it absolutely cannot be that they need her to testify to prove the allegations against him bcuz there is an insurmountable amount of proof. 🤔
@@truecrimeparalegal4421I have a feeling they’re building a case against her. I’ve heard these things can take time. I hope they arrest her because something g sure seems fishy about this mother. I’m sure there’s more to come
@@jennAllen212 I’m with u on that. That is the only possible & REASONABLE possibility in my mind at this point. Any “mother” on this planet that literally instructs her boyfriend and THIRTEEN year old DAUGHTER to go upstairs and sleep in the same bed totally ALONE is guilty of neglect & endangerment at the very least, like I had said. In my humble opinion, I believe she’s guilty of far, far more. This case really is so stomach turning, gut wrenching and totally & completely heartbreaking 💔
The last official statement from law enforcement was “She is not being charged with anything (At This Time)”. If they are building a case against her there is no need to rush, and they are not going to make any more public statements until they have an airtight case.
As a mother of two daughters… HOW is Jenn able say the words “ I think she was taken by someone” without sobbing?!!! I know exactly where my kids are and the thought of someone kidnapping them takes my breath away and makes me cry just thinking it could ever happen!!! I just don’t get it
Because she doesn’t give to effs.
Exactly. Jenn and Stephen are psychopaths.
I said the same thing: if I thought for one second someone took one of my kids I’d loose it. I’d be a complete mess. Or if they says were with sex crimes.. I’d be like why what’s happened why? Not okkkk. 😡
She tries to sell the abduction narrative EVERY SINGLE interview - every single 1. There's "no hope" in the eyes of Jenn.
@@carrielynch177 exactly!! I just couldn’t imagine being able to get those words out of my mouth without breaking down and losing my shit!! Also, after she found out that the sex crime unit was involved and showed evidence of him violating her daughter… she text his dad and said get him a lawyer ASAP. Who the fuck does that after hearing your baby has been violated by that monster?! As of now they are saying she hasn’t committed any crimes but I hope she faces justice at some point
Disturbing! I do not understand this mother!? How could she allow her BF to sleep near Madeline.
Something is very weird about this.
Poor Madeline. She deserved better.
Praying for justice for her. Sadly, even justice doesnt bring her back. 😢
If Jenn was not even dating Stephan then why did he show up practically out of nowhere? They act like they are coparenting. And like their house runs like a well oiled machine. Why didn’t either one of them go to Maddie’s party? What did they give Maddie for her birthday? What was so special that brought Stephan over? Even an iou is something better than nothing for a gift. I get times are tough but she could have wrote her note. Something anything. I think maybe Maddie was feeling more strength to put a stop to her abuse. Maybe she fought back and wasn’t that submissive child she once was. I think they maybe started to worry about the truth coming out. I bet she was more adult than either one of her so called parents.
I hope they are working towards charges against Jenn. If it takes time to build evidence, I can be patient but I pray this woman is charged.
she will be....I'm sure of that.
Is this mother being charged with anything? Sending her 13-year-old to sleep with her boyfriend in the same bed. All 3 sleeping in the same bed. To me this is very strange and poor decision making.
"I want to say..." Is an unacceptable answer.
What kind of woman does not protect her child? This whole thing reeks. She has done plenty wrong. She was complicent in the death of her daughter. I refuse to call this woman a mother.
I love that the second investigator is asking for times to compare to previous interview.
Listening to the "mother" talk to investigators about her missing child as if it is just another day and talking about any normal subject makes me sick. Where is the concern, empathy, saddness, beating down doors to get help (like any mother who did not know their man did this) would be doing. She needs to be behind bars. No immunity, no plea deals. "I dropped her off, i mean we dropped her off by the school". " will you take her phone forever" that is a ended statement that she knew her daughter wasn't comming back. Her diary about severe trauma when encountering any male broke my heart. Mom not protecting her has gone on for a very long time. Stephen may not have been the first that mom was trafficking her daughter up to men. Your concern should be your daughter NOT how you are going to find a place to stay while the crime tech go in to take pictures. "I don't know, I fell asleep" your daughter is missing but you went to bed. This woman infuriates me.
Maddie’s room looks like an Asian massage parlor, no bedroom for a child! Dear God, please help us all! 🥺😢💔💔💔
Definitely
Yet Stephan had one. Good Lord!
I guess the rent money from the other roomies was more important than her daughter having her own room. If I was renting a room from someone and found out their daughter didn't have a room I would tell them I could no longer live here. I heard her mention that one of the roomies has a son that lives there more than half of the time I wonder if he shared a room with his mom or had his own room. I'm in complete disbelief as I listen to this woman, unbelievable!
She said that the creep had only dropped Maddie off 1 or 2 times then she said that Maddie had complained MULTIPLE times about being dropped off in SS car. That sounds off.
She was sleeping late that morning but "we" took her to school. Really poor cover up.
"we" watched Maddie walk towards the school
How is she not in jail 😡
@@sarahjane8949 she will be...I just know that LE is building a case.
I cannot believe they are not charging her mother with any crimes. She clearly permitted sexual abuse.. No mother would ever allow a grown man to sleep in bed with their daughter EVER. for any reason. Just disgusting.
First she calls him step dad in previous interviews, now she states hes only been there 2 times in half a year. Yet comes home to directly sleep in your daughters bed in a different floor. OK LADY and we should sit here and think your not capable to understand what the fuxk he was doing to your child?
She knew exactly what was going on
@@Blahblahblah-b2d i know how sickening