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Over 10 years ago, I went to jail for 4 months for something I really didn't do. At the time, I had complete faith that all I had to do was tell the truth, and everything would be fine. Well, it wasn't. I have never been in trouble before or after. Now, over 10 years later, I still can hardly leave my house, answer my phone, or open my door. I'm in weekly counseling and on medication. Nothing bad happened to me in jail, but now I know that people in higher positions can do whatever they want and the truth doesn't matter.
What evidence did they have to keep you in jail? Were you sentenced to 4 months or just charged and then charges dropped and you were released? I’m curious how innocent people are arrested and why.
I feel horrible for the people who found their bodies. I don’t imagine you ever really recover from that. God please protect the mothers, fathers and families of these two sweet best friends.
I pray for closure after this dragging on so long for the families. I pray that they get to see the person who murdered their daughters (whoever that is) jailed for life, at the very least.
@JustMomHere the guy who found the bodies should have been investigated not saying he is guilty of anything but if you look to alot of cases of murder in the past sometimes the murderer is the one to find the bodies plus there was something suspicious about this guy also look into it you'll see what I'm saying sus
I've been following this case from Germany several years now and I have to say, this is the best summary of the context that I've seen so far. Very informative and easy to understand. This is my first time on your channel, but I immediately subscribed. Great work. Thank you very much.
I so appreciate that you just present information in a straightforward manner without continuous interjections of emotional judgementalness. Thank you.
@@Betty-qz5zd that's what Emma Kenney does and I had to unsubscribe because she took FOREVER to get to a point because of the emotional pauses and unnecessary commentary
Have followed this case closely from the start and always found it so messy and confusing with all of the evidence and different theories. This presentation was so streamlined and managed to give an accurate, in depth account without all the fluff. Fantastic work 👏🏼
Read your comment before writing similar. Lauren revealed details that I’d never heard of plus it was extremely balanced & very sympathetic to Libby & Abby, may they forever be friends watching over their loved ones ❤️❤️
And regarding the case of Bryan Kohlberger in Idaho, Xana’s mom was a drug addict and became a drug informant and many went to prison!! I think this was a drug hit !
My visceral reaction has always been that Ron Logan knew what happened either by being "bridge guy" or he played a part in what happened to Libby and Abby. There's more to this than what meets the eye. I don't like how this case has been handled. I can't imagine how the families of Abby and Libby feel. 😔
I also believe Ron Logan had something to do with it. When I saw the video his ex girlfriend made. She was 100% positive that HE was the culprit. She knew this man. She knew his voice. She knew he was evil. How well did they look at him as a suspect?
@@moniqueratelle-babin2155 I always believed Logan was the one the BG brought the girl to murder them. The sorry F troop police messed up the investigation.
The FBI was suspicious of Logan. Isn't strange that we learned in court that Delphi authorities cut off working with the FBI. Was the FBI getting too close to home?
This is such a hard case to summarize. I’m really looking forward to you covering it. There are so many suspicious ppl involved this story but few are as sus as LE.
yes another man who has been in prison for 22 years in New York for a crime he didn't commit has just been released. This happens more often than most of us know.
@@JudyF-zu4irI have the feeling that RA’s “confessions” are deeply suspicious, and I think he could have been suffering with delusions because of his poor health conditions.
@@ErinAbou I agree but the other possibility is that he was threatened or his family was threatened, if he didn’t confess. I would usually stand by the prosecution but this case is not being allowed to be transparent. If the prosecution has nothing to hide, then why are they be so shady. I’m seeing more and more videos where the police and law enforcement have been proven to have lied, suppressed the truth, used illegal tactics… etc. But why the hell not? It’s not like any of them will ever face any consequences.
He was monitored 24/7 nobody threatened him or else it would be on film. Not to mention if you actually read the footnotes of the Franks Memo the Defense actually state that no threats _actually_ occured lol The prison psychologist has already testified that she along with many DOC officers believed Allen to be exagerrating and performing many of his symptoms, malingering if you will. But the bottom line is, of the 60+ times he confessed [audio recorded on the phone, signed written letters also] he included information that was withheld from the by public by investigators. They absolutely have the right guy.
I can’t believe in this day and age that this trial is being shielded from the public, especially with all of the misconduct we’ve heard about. I will definitely been listening for my notification bell daily to hear what happened in court every day of this trial, thank you Lauren and Mr. M for bringing it to us. Fantastic recap video also, it’s been so long I actually forgot all about Delphi yet again!
Yep if I were the family of the victims - or even the accused - I wouldn't want graphic details of the crime aired to the world while the Defense showboat their way to a book deal or two. Or having psycho podcasters turning up to harass the families outside. It needs to have controlled decorum to do these girls justice.
WOW Lauren, I was just watching your guided walk along the “bridge” where the girls were just before they were murdered. All of a sudden I’m on this video weeks earlier . I just want to thank you for taking us “gems” along to the scene of the crime! You’ve really crossed every T and dotted every I covering this case! You are indeed an OUTSTANDING JOURNALIST 👍🏻❤️
This has been an outstanding synopsis of the case to date. We always get the best professional coverage and opinion from Lauren and Dr. John. I’m looking forward to both of your impressions of Richard Allan and the judge. You are truly the best!
Thank you, Lauren and Dr. John. So thankful you two plan to attend this trial. It is absolutely necessary you both attend to find out what is really going on and report it to we the people.
Oh I am so grateful to hear you guys are going to be covering the trial. It’ll be nice to hear about it coming from people I trust and respect. I have tried not to have any judgement so far as there is so much evidence that has not been made public. I look forward to your coverage.
They may be long videos, but they are extremely thorough! I’ve followed this channel since 2019, and I’ve been a paid subscriber for a year and a half. They are the best! ❤
Can we also remember the four sisters Keyana, Keyara, Kerriele and Kionnie who were murdered the same year and just short distance away in the town of Flora? The same police department have been quiet about it and have failed to find the perpetrator.
That fire was two months after an insurance policy was taken out on the house. The owner of the house was the boss of the fire investigator. It's beyond smelly.
I am so pleased you are going to be covering this case. I’m a sub from the UK and feel that this is one of the most important cases at this time, not just in America but globally. The transparency has been non existent and the corruption and games have been truly mind blowing. I really hope you both dig in your heels and get stuck into it, like only you two can. Are all jurors disabled and easily confused by the way? Asking for a friend. Sending love from over the pond. 😘
This is such a complicated and difficult case. You did an excellent job of summarizing it, Lauren. So glad that you are going to the trial. Too much has been hidden for too long. Even if RA did commit the crime, he has been treated deplorably!!! Can’t wait to hear your views on Judge Gull!
Uh... he's been treated appropriately and was placed under a safeguarding order according to a legal agreement that's been in place since 2016 in Indiana, regarding detainees with mental health requirements.
Judge Gull is doing her job, his Defense team are not. They keep misfiling things, they've missed deadlines, failed to supply any evidence of any third party culpability to meet any legal thresholds set out in law, then act surprised like its the courts fault lol Trust me they absolutely knew from off the bat that this Defense strategy wouldn't work - they are Attorneys after all, right? I'd like to think they were aware of what the requirements for a Third Party Defense were.... and if they didn't? Well. Perhaps they are as incompetent as Gull said they were 😂
@@nevadatan7323compare to how Brian K has been treated. Not necessary to shackle RA and not provide him with nice suit to attend court. They want him to look like a criminal and guilty with no proof
I’m so glad you are covering this case. I have been following this case since it started. I don’t know what to believe in this case. What I do know is whether RA did it or not, he has been treated awful. Putting him in a prison and denying almost every motion the defense has made tells me there is something being covered up. The judge in this case is horrible and needs to be taken off the case. Something stinks! Justice for Libby and Abby.❤️⚖️
@@ITZCHELSEA2244 That is not true, did you missed the part that even the prison warden said he was treated worst than anybody else ever? How is that protecting? If you are ok with the violation of constitutional rights, don’t complaint when it happens to you.
@@lhr8833 I thought the warden said the opposite also I don't live in America here in NZ we don't have the same rights as you guys do when my dad went to trial he got a suppression order that basically means no one not even the media is alowed to talk about his case or himself
You just wrote exactly what I was thinking! That judge is very suspicious and Allen has received cruel and unusual punishment! Here’s my question, how can this judge and the Indiana legal system get by with this bull💩??? If Allen were my loved one, I would’ve raised so much he$$, they probably would’ve arrested me. If Allen is innocent, which I firmly believe, those 2 precious girls will not get justice! What is wrong with these people? I wish there were something I could do.
Regardless of whether RA is truly the killer or not, the amount of errors, fumbling and outright lies (?) by LE is astonishing. I’m as anxious for answers from the police and prosecutors as I am to hear from RA and the defense attorneys.
He put himself on the bridge dressed the same as bridge guy... and the eyewitness timeline puts him there just ahead of the girls..what's the odds it isn't him?
@@brianaldridge905 Better question: What are the odds that you, with your very limited information, know more than the professionals working tirelessly on this case? Lmao
As new details emerge I can’t imagine what these poor baby girls went thru, Libby’s a hero catching him on video rip and justice I pray comes to these families.
Something really bothers me about this case and the way it’s been handled since the beginning. I definitely don’t like that not even audio is allowed for the trial. It’s like a Federal trial. Idk…just everything seems sus, but then again, I’ll wait for facts & evidence in the trial I won’t be able to watch! Thank you for your hard work!
Yah agree! I want to trust law enforcement, but something does seem off. At first it made sense that LE just wanted to protect the integrity of the case by not releasing a lot of information; but after all this time, so many things do not add up, and then not to allow any recording in the trial? It seems pretty obvious that the bodies were moved, staged and that more than one person had to be involved. If there's a cult thing going on, and there are members actually in law enforcement, I wonder if we will ever really know what happened.
I find it sus that Richard Allen was arrested almost immediately after the sheriff was condemned by someone running against him in the election for having made no progress on the case.
I totally agree. I watch a lot of true crime and this case is just OFF. I think it is a small town and LE bumbled the investigation from day one. The sheriff has made this personal and the insistence by LE of keeping everything sealed is a huge red flag
Ihooe that Joe who was on TH-cam he had been following this case had a lot to say hope he comes back on he thinks RA is inocent I will be watching every one wants the right person who did this for Abby and Libby also for the family's ❤❤❤❤
I love that you tell all sides of the tragedy. You stay very unbiased, and it's great to see someone who focuses on relaying the facts completely and in detail. Great work!
Wow! I just finished watching and am again reminded what an amazing channel Hidden True Crime is. Thank you for your incredible journalism regarding this horrific crime. Hopefully the families and victims will receive the justice they so deserve soon.
It's Carroll County, they are the "good old boys" and they all cover for each other and have grew up together, married into others families etc. Heck, one judge got into trouble for meeting young girls in Tippecanoe County (Lafayette)
I cant be the only one that thinks Doug Carter himself is a bit strange and shady! He has a weird, aggressive demeanor, and seems to have a chronic sniffing problem.
I think they are just trying to put someone away to cover for all the mess ups. Im not convinced Richard did it. The evidence they have is fleeting at best. Too many shady things going on in US police these days.
Indiana is notorious for not being transparent in their court proceedings. As a consistuent, y'all should be demanding better from your elected judicial officials. You shouldn't need someone to report it to you to know what the justice system is doing, you should be able to see it clearly as a citizen.
I'm not so sure they have the right guy. I don't know, but it seems like public pressure led them to make an arrest. Something doesn't "feel" right about the suspect being the killer...
I definitely agree, tons of evidence missing and other possible suspects. I think they need an outside review of the case before they convict an innocent man.😢
Thank you for this pre-trial recap. I am looking forward to your coverage and finding out how much evidence the prosecution actually has against Richard Allen.
@cytobl98 isn't that what everyone wants? Unfortunately I don't think they're going to get it. Hopefully they'll be satisfied with a conviction even if it's not the right person
If I'm going to trust the objective reports or insightful psychological analyses on the Delphi double-murder case, I trust Hidden True Crime implicitly. 💎
Wow, you put this all together so well! I’ve followed the case since it happened because something didn’t sit right with how tight lipped they were from the beginning.
I'm new to your channel I've never seen this before till tonight. Glad I found your channel I just subscribed. I am a true Delphi case follower since 2017 when the girls were murdered. I like the way you're presenting everything so clear and precise. No cursing going on in this video like a lot of these TH-cam channels have. We need Justice for Libby and Abby and some type of closure for their families. Justice will prevail soon. 🙏🙏💚🦋💜 Keep up the good work and I will be sharing this in the group I'm in on Facebook Looking forward to your next video.
I live 2 hours away from Delphi. And my father in law grew up there, so we spent time up there. We would visit his brother several times a year. Seeing the signs and posters, all the faces of people was devastating... Seeing the CVS and not knowing who was inside is chilling to me now. His brother has passed now, but when I drive past Delphi I always think of those poor girls. I don't even think of the time spent there. What's worse I'm 30ish minutes from Rushville!! And a coworker of mine knows the person who is talked about in the files. My coworker has had to listen to me talk her ear off about this case. So when the name was dropped, she came running to me. I've deep dived this case...and I dont think Allen did the killings, but was involved. But my gut tells me there's others. And I think they are people who could make others keep quiet.
@@sandyd4922 Ron Logan was on probation, that's why he lied about driving, PART of his probation was HE WAS NOT ALLOWED TO DRIVE! ALSO, many murderers "TRY AND HELP THE POLICE" this is Criminology 101, they teach you they do it for multiple reasons, "tryna see" what the police know is JUST 1 REASON why murderers, "step up" and say "hey I was at the crime scene".... Wake up, dude killed those 2 babies.... NOBODY ELSE WAS EVEN OUT THERE, THIS ISNT THE MIDDLE OF MANHATTAN, ITS IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE!!!
This is such a compelling story and it has haunted so many of us for all this time. The footage of the suspect, in prison (not a county jail), in the middle of a severe mental health crisis, is also compelling. I hope the truth will be complete and justice will also be complete for these young girls at long last.
He was placed in protective custody in a prison for HIS SAFETY! Even the inmates here hate him. PC will mess with your psyche and his attorneys told him to act like that and chew on paper.
He was under a safeguarding order. They had to place him in facilities that could attend to his mental health requirements, and thats been a legal agreement since 2016 in indiana. Plus they would probably stove his head in if he was placed in Gen Pop. Listen to the testimonials from the Pretrial Hearings. Particularly the psychologists Testimony. She believed him to be faking or exagerrating many of his symptoms...
@@BrandyinIndy Putting this man in max prison is punishment before he's found guilty,smacks of intimidation . Protective custody is possible in a county jail. Something about this case stinks. One expert getting arrested for falsifying records, evidence going missing.
Lauren, I hope you can do shorthand or have someone with you who can. I'll be following your updates. Great to know we have a totally unbiased couple in the courtroom reporting on a case we have absolutely no way of following. Thanks for that.
There are power stations, trained citizen search and rescue units, local EMT's and police officers on duty for citizen safety, "tracking dogs" owned by private citizens, citizens with many flashlights and cold weather clothing, so, my question is; WHY STOP AN OFFICIAL INITIAL SEARCH WITHIN 24 HOURS?.
What a awesome coverage of this heinous crime..Your hard work doesnt go unnoticed, Thank you. I truly hope Abby & Libby's family will finally find closure one day..🙏
You truly have given the most comprehensive review of events leading up to this trial. I’ve never seen a better one. Thank you for providing the information.
Delphi is the real deal in the genre of a whodunit case. It’s the most interesting case of 2024. Indianas refusals to be transparent during the trial is a major concern imo. The redacted transcripts are sus as well.
@bugsea54 it's the good old boys system there. Always has been and always will. Unless you were born there, you will always be on the outside. Heck, one of the judges got in trouble for meeting young girls in Lafayette. Sick stuff there.
@@TSUNAMI-MAMI I agree with you, but this trial there were transcripts that weren’t ordered or released to counsel that were reported by a stenographer (or some other means) and redacted. To say a stenographer wasn’t present when the stenographer was present or to not want a stenographer to transcribe after ordered is sus imo, allegedly.
We haven't seen all the evidence yet but i tend to believe the FBI US Marshal's State & local police more than Defense lawyers. Plus he's confessed over 60 times. Justice For Abby & Libby 🙏
@@kittygirl133 but innocent until proven guilty and this guy has endured horrible conditions and wasted a lot of time in jail so far. I wonder if they’re even still trying to find other possible suspects. The only thing I’ve seen as far as evidence is that the bullet found near the scene is one that goes with his rifle? Idk look at Bryan kohberger..I’m not convinced he’s the if not only suspect involved and he’s not enduring the same awful treatment in prison
@@Laffy_Taphy50818 yes innocent until proven guilty. But that doesn't mean he shouldn't have to be in jail until the trial begins. Remember, a judge reviews the arrest warrant to make sure the police have enough evidence to make sure there is probable cause that the arrested has committed the charged crime. I don't know where you heard that BK has been having a rough time in jail, but I haven't. It's certainly better conditions than the prison he will go to if he's convicted. Jail is cushy compared to that. And it's not supposed to be comfortable. Edited to add: if RA has been wasting time in jail it is mostly because of the delays caused by the filings of his defense team. Otherwise the trial would have happened already. Same with BK for that matter.
@@kittygirl133 I’m not saying the suspect shouldn’t be in jail I’m just giving my opinion. And I’m saying BK as another suspect that I’m not convinced about isn’t being treated as horribly as Richard Allen but that’s just what I’m getting from what we’re being shown
Amazing recap Lauren - thank you! This is yet another crazy case...I'm so glad you're going to go!!! Your voice is so trustworthy and fair and I look forward to watching your court reports.
Lauren you are so good at breaking down the details of a case. I really appreciate it! Thank you for being our eyes and ears in the trial as I know you have our backs!!! Good luck and please take care of yourself
So glad to hear you’ll be there covering this case! I live in nearby Lafayette and this case haunts us here. I’ve been a sub for awhile and followed all your coverage of Chad and Lori’s trials. Hope we get lunch lives for this one. Sounds like it’s gonna be very tight quarters for press and public. 5 seats I hear, for press. And not being allowed any single piece of technology when this case needs transparency the most is just beyond.
Doesn’t seem like a case can get much crazier than this one. Seems like not every small town LE, prosecution and court may be up to the challenge of handling a crime such as this.
WOW! I've seen coverage of this case but never heard all this stuff you shared Lauren! It really made me look at this case through a different perspective. I will definitely keep watching your updates on this Thank You!
Yep. Every other "True Crime " afficionado without major conflicts of interests, and who can actually write a coherent sentence without sounding like 50 Shades of Grey
I get so sick of the media and public thinking they need to know every detail of these type of murders. Why can’t you understand telling something’s could compromise the case, but y’all don’t care you just want to be nosey for no other reason than to get a story to report.
I agree. People think it's some weird conspiracy, but information is held back for good reasons. They don't want to compromise the case by telling everything they know. It's done quite often in murder cases.
I can’t wait to hear you and John. I think there was a lot of cover up. Thank you and John for all the information you put out there for people like me who are not able to attend. Aloha from Hawaii.
excellent job ! I’ve followed this case. One important fact, that was proven was, 2 of the prison guards that were guarding Richard had patches on their uniforms that said “In Odin We Trust” they ended up having to remove them. One other thing is that a prison inmate wrote a letter to the judge because he was so distressed about the abuse he was witnessing to Allen by these guards. This judge has been very biased also. She should not be hearing this case. To much reasonable doubt if the jury was able to hear ALL the evidence. I suspect many in this town are Odonists. He should have never been in that prison considering innocent until proven guilty. I’m so happy you will be going to watch and report first hand. Thank you 🙏
O phleeeeease about that Odin. We have them in Finland they fight against moslem immigrants they DO NOT commit any ritualistic murders. Especially children. They re just white supremacists, nothing ritualistic .
This isn't Hollywood. We're you also aware that Todd Click who was investigating the Odinist angle was previously arrested for falsifying documents - he was charged with official misconduct, forgery and falsifying information lol
Missing children searches are 5 - 10 mile radius ++ lasting weeks even --- Yet their bodies were found 1/2 mile away the next day...? How did that happen in a high search zone! This alone is highly SUSPICIOUS strongly suggesting 'an authority figure' was shady...!
@@ErinAbou The interview with Ron Logan's former girl friend was significant. Definitely makes me think he was involved. Wouldn't we like to know if he had ties to the Odin cult they are talking about.
Were you aware that the majority of tips that come in to unsolved cases are from disgruntled ex partners. Ron Logan was a geriatric who had lived on the property for 50 years. Why, at the ripe old age of 80, would he suddenly decide to run two sporty girls down a hillside and then just LEAVE their bodies on his own property. The height estimates were vastly different too for a start. Not to mention he was on film elsewhere and had an alibi. He was thoroughly investigated by police and cleared. Cmon ppl... little more critical thinking here
I can't help but feel that the local authorities assigned blame for these murders to alleviate the pressure that they were under. There is a serious lack of communication with the public, and they're still not forthcoming with details. Nothing smells right.
Lauren and John here at hidden true crime are the real deal. They center victims first and foremost. They continue to provide in-depth and researched analyses of criminals, including their backgrounds and traumas, that help the general public make sense of such heinous crimes. Lauren and John’s work has led me to multiple invaluable resources that have changed my parenting and personal wellness approaches for the better. I’m ready for Dr John’s input on this case. Together, Lauren and John illuminate the MO and origins of dangerous actors, to the benefit of us regular folks who desire to see justice and goodness in our world.
Dang idk...Logan sounds like bridge guy and walks like him too (18:20). Man, I wish this case had cameras in the court room. Good coverage by the way. First time watching your channe. Subscribed 😊l
I hadn’t followed this tragedy in detail. You have done a fantastic job of explaining what has happened to date. It’s amazing the trial is only expected to take only one month given all that f the twists and turns this case has taken so far. I look forward to your future coverage.
Best breakdown of the case available... thank you for utilizing your investigative skills to bring us this unbiased look at the case. Looking forward to hearing " Dr John's insights on the behaviors of the different individuals involved.
Lauren, I appreciate the way you do these videos. Your calm telling of the facts helps me to understand the facts of the case. I am so glad you are going to the trial. If there was ever a case that needs sunshine, it's this one. ❤
You are doing a fabulous job reporting on this horrible crime, in Australia and we are not immune from this sort of crime. Love the report without unnecessary drama, great job❤logan doesn't fit description and allen had a very distingtive beard. I feel they just got someone just to satisfy the family
I am really looking forward to hearing Dr. John’s analysis, and both your input on this case. Lauren, no one can outline a case as well as you can. No spinning whatsoever, but true reporting. You both are so gifted in your work, and it shows every time. The most trustworthy true crime podcast to date. ❤
I’m so glad you’re covering this. As others have stated, this case is incredibly messy, leaving so many of us confused. I would love to know your thoughts on legal representation on both sides and the myriad of concerns with Judge Gull. Thank you so much for all you do! I will be watching.
I want Abby and Libby (and their family’s) to get justice. I’m honestly so torn on this one. Too many things don’t seem right about the arrest of RA. Keeping him in prison pre trial is wrong. He should be in jail where his attorneys can visit him. I just don’t trust the judge or prosecutors in this case. Between this case, Sandra Birchmore and Karen Read my trust in certain police departments is lacking. I back good policing, like the police in Rexburg, Idaho who worked on the Daybell case. We need more of them and fewer Michael Proctor’s in law enforcement. There are too many questions and I hope we get answers during the trial.
@@LibraInSeattle they had to put RA in a safe place for everybody, remand is way worse place to be then state of corrections. He gets way more then if he was in delphi area jail
thank you for doing this deep dive! I like many people watched the early investigation and then never knew what came of it! To find out all this stuff all these years later 🤯All I can say is, I'll be watching and you got a sub from me..
This case is perhaps even more chilling than one could imagine. Thank you for such meticulous and professional journalism. I now have a much clearer view of how this case unfolded.
If you're into the backstories and case videos we’ve been digging into lately, let us know in the comments or like this video - it helps more than you know!
@@HiddenTrueCrime I just became a renewed member. Do you have an email public address you could send me❓❓
The backstories are so well done! Thank you
All your backstories are wonderful❤ The cases closest to my heart are Dan Markel and Madeleine Soto.
Can you please look into the Sebastian Rogers case?
I have followed this case from day 1.
Over 10 years ago, I went to jail for 4 months for something I really didn't do. At the time, I had complete faith that all I had to do was tell the truth, and everything would be fine. Well, it wasn't. I have never been in trouble before or after. Now, over 10 years later, I still can hardly leave my house, answer my phone, or open my door. I'm in weekly counseling and on medication. Nothing bad happened to me in jail, but now I know that people in higher positions can do whatever they want and the truth doesn't matter.
@@jewelofgod4262 I pray God will free you from your trauma and pain.
I am so sorry for what happened to you and your continued dealing with such awful trauma. For what it's worth, I sympathize.
What evidence did they have to keep you in jail? Were you sentenced to 4 months or just charged and then charges dropped and you were released? I’m curious how innocent people are arrested and why.
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Yes, I'm curious that too
@@jewelofgod4262 correct
What is truly sickening is how, when you look around, there are so many monsters among us.
Right!!?? It's so freaking scary😢
RIP LIBBY🙏❤
RIP ABBY🙏 ❤
That's why I'm a stauch supporter of the 2nd Amendment!!!
@@cet6237 ya that's why America is such a safe place to live.
It’s scary. Sadly it’s a reason I stay in more than I ever used to.
Compared to the population as a whole, monsters are few.
I feel horrible for the people who found their bodies. I don’t imagine you ever really recover from that. God please protect the mothers, fathers and families of these two sweet best friends.
I pray for closure after this dragging on so long for the families. I pray that they get to see the person who murdered their daughters (whoever that is) jailed for life, at the very least.
How many times did they wish they could turn back time to save the girls?
Especially since this wasn’t an every day occurance in that area. The community wasn’t numb to these occurrences like they are in the bigger Cities.
@JustMomHere the guy who found the bodies should have been investigated not saying he is guilty of anything but if you look to alot of cases of murder in the past sometimes the murderer is the one to find the bodies plus there was something suspicious about this guy also look into it you'll see what I'm saying sus
Maybe god could have done his protection a little earlier.
I've been following this case from Germany several years now and I have to say, this is the best summary of the context that I've seen so far. Very informative and easy to understand. This is my first time on your channel, but I immediately subscribed. Great work. Thank you very much.
Thank you so much! Welcome :)
I so appreciate that you just present information in a straightforward manner without continuous interjections of emotional judgementalness. Thank you.
I also follow Grizzly/ Giesala
And she interjects wasaaay too much!
@@michellefregeau321if you don’t like Grizzly’s channel you don’t have to watch.
No reason to talk crap about a creator on someone else’s channel.
@@Betty-qz5zd that's what Emma Kenney does and I had to unsubscribe because she took FOREVER to get to a point because of the emotional pauses and unnecessary commentary
Have followed this case closely from the start and always found it so messy and confusing with all of the evidence and different theories. This presentation was so streamlined and managed to give an accurate, in depth account without all the fluff. Fantastic work 👏🏼
Thank you @greenthumbgardener229! 💕
Thank you, Lauren! I have never heard such a specific professional journalistic review of what happened to these two children 🙏🙏
Read your comment before writing similar. Lauren revealed details that I’d never heard of plus it was extremely balanced & very sympathetic to Libby & Abby, may they forever be friends watching over their loved ones ❤️❤️
And regarding the case of Bryan Kohlberger in Idaho, Xana’s mom was a drug addict and became a drug informant and many went to prison!! I think this was a drug hit !
What I love about Lauren is that she brings real journalism to life...the 5 w's. real data. thank you, Lauren!
Hahaha. Love your sarcasm.
Wow. What a mess. Didn't know a thing about this case, it's amazing how you organize so much information on a coherent timeline, Lauren!
My visceral reaction has always been that Ron Logan knew what happened either by being "bridge guy" or he played a part in what happened to Libby and Abby. There's more to this than what meets the eye. I don't like how this case has been handled. I can't imagine how the families of Abby and Libby feel. 😔
I also believe Ron Logan had something to do with it. When I saw the video his ex girlfriend made. She was 100% positive that HE was the culprit. She knew this man. She knew his voice. She knew he was evil. How well did they look at him as a suspect?
I think so too.
I DIDN'T KNOW RON WAS THE BRIDGE GUY!! IS THAT THE PICTURE ON THE GIRLS PHONE?
@@moniqueratelle-babin2155 I always believed Logan was the one the BG brought the girl to murder them. The sorry F troop police messed up the investigation.
The FBI was suspicious of Logan. Isn't strange that we learned in court that Delphi authorities cut off working with the FBI. Was the FBI getting too close to home?
This is such a hard case to summarize. I’m really looking forward to you covering it. There are so many suspicious ppl involved this story but few are as sus as LE.
@Petty_Mason thank you so much! Sooo good to see you! ❤️
@@HiddenTrueCrime I’m usually in the comments until we get to 1000. I can’t keep up then.
I tend to believe the FBI US Marshal's State & local police more than Defense lawyers. Hopefully we'll find out soon. Justice For Abby & Libby 🙏
@@juniorjohnson5961 I couldn't agree more.
Does that include Todd Click the Odinist theorist cop who has a history of falsifying signatures lol
These girls and their families deserve justice, but the right person/people need to be held accountable!
yes another man who has been in prison for 22 years in New York for a crime he didn't commit has just been released. This happens more often than most of us know.
@@JudyF-zu4irI have the feeling that RA’s “confessions” are deeply suspicious, and I think he could have been suffering with delusions because of his poor health conditions.
@@ErinAbou I agree but the other possibility is that he was threatened or his family was threatened, if he didn’t confess.
I would usually stand by the prosecution but this case is not being allowed to be transparent. If the prosecution has nothing to hide, then why are they be so shady. I’m seeing more and more videos where the police and law enforcement have been proven to have lied, suppressed the truth, used illegal tactics… etc. But why the hell not? It’s not like any of them will ever face any consequences.
@@donnasalvador678absolutely!
He was monitored 24/7 nobody threatened him or else it would be on film.
Not to mention if you actually read the footnotes of the Franks Memo the Defense actually state that no threats _actually_ occured lol
The prison psychologist has already testified that she along with many DOC officers believed Allen to be exagerrating and performing many of his symptoms, malingering if you will.
But the bottom line is, of the 60+ times he confessed [audio recorded on the phone, signed written letters also] he included information that was withheld from the by public by investigators.
They absolutely have the right guy.
I can’t believe in this day and age that this trial is being shielded from the public, especially with all of the misconduct we’ve heard about. I will definitely been listening for my notification bell daily to hear what happened in court every day of this trial, thank you Lauren and Mr. M for bringing it to us. Fantastic recap video also, it’s been so long I actually forgot all about Delphi yet again!
@@MCBoftheDMV It's become such a mess with the Defense i believe the judge is trying to keep this from becoming even bigger mess.
This isn't reality TV.
The judge has basically told them don't drive your Clown car to the courthouse.
@@juniorjohnson5961 FACT
Yep if I were the family of the victims - or even the accused - I wouldn't want graphic details of the crime aired to the world while the Defense showboat their way to a book deal or two.
Or having psycho podcasters turning up to harass the families outside.
It needs to have controlled decorum to do these girls justice.
WOW Lauren, I was just watching your guided walk along the “bridge” where the girls were just before they were murdered. All of a sudden I’m on this video weeks earlier . I just want to thank you for taking us “gems” along to the scene of the crime! You’ve really crossed every T and dotted every I covering this case! You are indeed an OUTSTANDING JOURNALIST 👍🏻❤️
This has been an outstanding synopsis of the case to date. We always get the best professional coverage and opinion from Lauren and Dr. John. I’m looking forward to both of your impressions of Richard Allan and the judge. You are truly the best!
Thank you, Lauren and Dr. John. So thankful you two plan to attend this trial. It is absolutely necessary you both attend to find out what is really going on and report it to we the people.
@@bbrd876 Agree
Satanic rituals are done in every state, and country in the world. 😢
Oh I am so grateful to hear you guys are going to be covering the trial. It’ll be nice to hear about it coming from people I trust and respect. I have tried not to have any judgement so far as there is so much evidence that has not been made public. I look forward to your coverage.
So close to 200k. Honestly can’t believe it hasn’t been hit a long time ago. One of the best channels on TH-cam
I know, right?
That’s great for them. I think I only started to watch them early this year when they had around 50K subscribers.
Agreed!
Agree. Their videos are long. I’ve noticed the ones that do longer videos are the slowest ones to grow.
They may be long videos, but they are extremely thorough! I’ve followed this channel since 2019, and I’ve been a paid subscriber for a year and a half. They are the best! ❤
Can we also remember the four sisters Keyana, Keyara, Kerriele and Kionnie who were murdered the same year and just short distance away in the town of Flora? The same police department have been quiet about it and have failed to find the perpetrator.
@@vintagesoup79 I never heard of these 4 girls ! Oh, how horrible
That fire was two months after an insurance policy was taken out on the house. The owner of the house was the boss of the fire investigator.
It's beyond smelly.
@@JoRiver11was insurance a variable in this
@@Obiahjones I don't know, but it sure looks bad.
@@JoRiver11😮
I am so pleased you are going to be covering this case. I’m a sub from the UK and feel that this is one of the most important cases at this time, not just in America but globally. The transparency has been non existent and the corruption and games have been truly mind blowing. I really hope you both dig in your heels and get stuck into it, like only you two can. Are all jurors disabled and easily confused by the way? Asking for a friend. Sending love from over the pond. 😘
This is such a complicated and difficult case. You did an excellent job of summarizing it, Lauren. So glad that you are going to the trial. Too much has been hidden for too long. Even if RA did commit the crime, he has been treated deplorably!!! Can’t wait to hear your views on Judge Gull!
Uh... he's been treated appropriately and was placed under a safeguarding order according to a legal agreement that's been in place since 2016 in Indiana, regarding detainees with mental health requirements.
Judge Gull is doing her job, his Defense team are not.
They keep misfiling things, they've missed deadlines, failed to supply any evidence of any third party culpability to meet any legal thresholds set out in law, then act surprised like its the courts fault lol
Trust me they absolutely knew from off the bat that this Defense strategy wouldn't work - they are Attorneys after all, right?
I'd like to think they were aware of what the requirements for a Third Party Defense were.... and if they didn't? Well. Perhaps they are as incompetent as Gull said they were 😂
@@nevadatan7323compare to how Brian K has been treated. Not necessary to shackle RA and not provide him with nice suit to attend court. They want him to look like a criminal and guilty with no proof
I’m so glad you are covering this case. I have been following this case since it started. I don’t know what to believe in this case. What I do know is whether RA did it or not, he has been treated awful. Putting him in a prison and denying almost every motion the defense has made tells me there is something being covered up. The judge in this case is horrible and needs to be taken off the case. Something stinks! Justice for Libby and Abby.❤️⚖️
The judge was trying to protect Richard Allen from retribution in jail
The judge needs to be removed and disbarred
@@ITZCHELSEA2244 That is not true, did you missed the part that even the prison warden said he was treated worst than anybody else ever? How is that protecting? If you are ok with the violation of constitutional rights, don’t complaint when it happens to you.
@@lhr8833 I thought the warden said the opposite also I don't live in America here in NZ we don't have the same rights as you guys do when my dad went to trial he got a suppression order that basically means no one not even the media is alowed to talk about his case or himself
You just wrote exactly what I was thinking! That judge is very suspicious and Allen has received cruel and unusual punishment! Here’s my question, how can this judge and the Indiana legal system get by with this bull💩??? If Allen were my loved one, I would’ve raised so much he$$, they probably would’ve arrested me.
If Allen is innocent, which I firmly believe, those 2 precious girls will not get justice! What is wrong with these people? I wish there were something I could do.
Regardless of whether RA is truly the killer or not, the amount of errors, fumbling and outright lies (?) by LE is astonishing. I’m as anxious for answers from the police and prosecutors as I am to hear from RA and the defense attorneys.
You won't hear from Richard allen.
You will......on the prison phone calls
@@Naturefan354 He isn't
He put himself on the bridge dressed the same as bridge guy... and the eyewitness timeline puts him there just ahead of the girls..what's the odds it isn't him?
@@brianaldridge905 Better question: What are the odds that you, with your very limited information, know more than the professionals working tirelessly on this case? Lmao
As new details emerge I can’t imagine what these poor baby girls went thru, Libby’s a hero catching him on video rip and justice I pray comes to these families.
Thank you Lauren & Dr John for going to this trial, trust your reporting & opinions more than anybody else’s on YT.
Excellent recap and reporting!! You are the gold bar standard for factual information on True Crime.
Not in this case! She IS only re-capping.....how about disecting the bizzare Interviews of Family members?
Something really bothers me about this case and the way it’s been handled since the beginning. I definitely don’t like that not even audio is allowed for the trial. It’s like a Federal trial. Idk…just everything seems sus, but then again, I’ll wait for facts & evidence in the trial I won’t be able to watch! Thank you for your hard work!
Agree!
Yah agree! I want to trust law enforcement, but something does seem off. At first it made sense that LE just wanted to protect the integrity of the case by not releasing a lot of information; but after all this time, so many things do not add up, and then not to allow any recording in the trial?
It seems pretty obvious that the bodies were moved, staged and that more than one person had to be involved.
If there's a cult thing going on, and there are members actually in law enforcement, I wonder if we will ever really know what happened.
I find it sus that Richard Allen was arrested almost immediately after the sheriff was condemned by someone running against him in the election for having made no progress on the case.
I totally agree. I watch a lot of true crime and this case is just OFF. I think it is a small town and LE bumbled the investigation from day one. The sheriff has made this personal and the insistence by LE of keeping everything sealed is a huge red flag
Ihooe that Joe who was on TH-cam he had been following this case had a lot to say hope he comes back on he thinks RA is inocent I will be watching every one wants the right person who did this for Abby and Libby also for the family's ❤❤❤❤
I love that you tell all sides of the tragedy. You stay very unbiased, and it's great to see someone who focuses on relaying the facts completely and in detail. Great work!
Well, not quite. It's a clearly biased and opinionated presentation.
Wow! I just finished watching and am again reminded what an amazing channel Hidden True Crime is. Thank you for your incredible journalism regarding this horrific crime. Hopefully the families and victims will receive the justice they so deserve soon.
thank you so much!!
@@HiddenTrueCrime ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
When Richard was first arrested I didn't believe he was the killer and as of now, I am still not sure.
It's disgusting that this judge seems to have no interest in seeking justice in this case 😡
It's Carroll County, they are the "good old boys" and they all cover for each other and have grew up together, married into others families etc. Heck, one judge got into trouble for meeting young girls in Tippecanoe County (Lafayette)
He is guilty af
Richard Allen did it
@@TSUNAMI-MAMI Maybe 🤔
@@TSUNAMI-MAMI genuinely curious as to why your so sure of that.
This case is shady as heck.
I agree 💯
I cant be the only one that thinks Doug Carter himself is a bit strange and shady! He has a weird, aggressive demeanor, and seems to have a chronic sniffing problem.
I think he took Abby and Libby's case personal. I'm sure it kept him up at night. @@lorenfulghum2393
I think they are just trying to put someone away to cover for all the mess ups. Im not convinced Richard did it. The evidence they have is fleeting at best. Too many shady things going on in US police these days.
what ever happened to the Kegan Kline connection?
This case has so many red flags. I am grateful that you guys are going to attend and cover it. ❤
THANK YOU for reporting the trial events to us, the people of IN. We deserve to know what our justice system is doing 👍
Indiana is notorious for not being transparent in their court proceedings. As a consistuent, y'all should be demanding better from your elected judicial officials. You shouldn't need someone to report it to you to know what the justice system is doing, you should be able to see it clearly as a citizen.
So happy to hear you will be attending the trial! I always come to you and Dr John for all the latest info and analysis!
I'm not so sure they have the right guy.
I don't know, but it seems like public pressure led them to make an arrest. Something doesn't "feel" right about the suspect being the killer...
I agree.
I definitely agree, tons of evidence missing and other possible suspects. I think they need an outside review of the case before they convict an innocent man.😢
I think they have the right guy hopefully we'll find out soon. I tend to believe the FBI, US Marshal's, State& Local police more than Defense lawyers.
The guy on video isn't as fast as Ron. Dude has a huge beer belly, the guy walking Inn the video doesn't, and appears younger.
Yes!!!!!
Thank you for this pre-trial recap. I am looking forward to your coverage and finding out how much evidence the prosecution actually has against Richard Allen.
You and me both!
I keep thinking they have to have more than they are telling us.
@@EmilySmith-m9j I don't think they do
I want the girls and their families to have the justice they were promised.@CW1971
@cytobl98 isn't that what everyone wants? Unfortunately I don't think they're going to get it. Hopefully they'll be satisfied with a conviction even if it's not the right person
If I'm going to trust the objective reports or insightful psychological analyses on the Delphi double-murder case, I trust Hidden True Crime implicitly. 💎
Wow, you put this all together so well! I’ve followed the case since it happened because something didn’t sit right with how tight lipped they were from the beginning.
I'm new to your channel I've never seen this before till tonight. Glad I found your channel I just subscribed. I am a true Delphi case follower since 2017 when the girls were murdered. I like the way you're presenting everything so clear and precise. No cursing going on in this video like a lot of these TH-cam channels have. We need Justice for Libby and Abby and some type of closure for their families. Justice will prevail soon. 🙏🙏💚🦋💜
Keep up the good work and I will be sharing this in the group I'm in on Facebook
Looking forward to your next video.
I live 2 hours away from Delphi. And my father in law grew up there, so we spent time up there. We would visit his brother several times a year. Seeing the signs and posters, all the faces of people was devastating... Seeing the CVS and not knowing who was inside is chilling to me now. His brother has passed now, but when I drive past Delphi I always think of those poor girls. I don't even think of the time spent there.
What's worse I'm 30ish minutes from Rushville!! And a coworker of mine knows the person who is talked about in the files. My coworker has had to listen to me talk her ear off about this case. So when the name was dropped, she came running to me.
I've deep dived this case...and I dont think Allen did the killings, but was involved. But my gut tells me there's others. And I think they are people who could make others keep quiet.
Have you seen the timeline? He trapped the girls, held them at gun point, and he acted alone.
It's always interesting to me to hear from locals. If you don't mind sharing what are your thoughts on KK?
Thank you! Someone willing to recognize a grey area
@@BrandyinIndy the timeline is pretty much made up by LE
@@BrandyinIndythat’s not true. Lol. It’s not even possible.
I LOVE when you summarize the cases thank you for all your time and effort you put into these videos!❤
Ron Logan lied because he was driving when he shouldn't have been.
Exactly
Libby’s dad Derrick was driving with a suspended license but they didn’t put him in jail. Why?!
I guess that makes him a liar as well
@@sandyd4922 did Libbys dad lie about it during a murder investigation?
@@sandyd4922 Ron Logan was on probation, that's why he lied about driving, PART of his probation was HE WAS NOT ALLOWED TO DRIVE!
ALSO, many murderers "TRY AND HELP THE POLICE" this is Criminology 101, they teach you they do it for multiple reasons, "tryna see" what the police know is JUST 1 REASON why murderers, "step up" and say "hey I was at the crime scene"....
Wake up, dude killed those 2 babies.... NOBODY ELSE WAS EVEN OUT THERE, THIS ISNT THE MIDDLE OF MANHATTAN, ITS IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE!!!
Wow, just wow!
Lauren, Thank you for your crystal clear, concise update on this case. I will continue to follow any updates you have during this trial.
I would never leave two young girls on their own in that location! How foolish.
I’m sure the older sister regrets that sadly for letting them go there.
This is such a compelling story and it has haunted so many of us for all this time. The footage of the suspect, in prison (not a county jail), in the middle of a severe mental health crisis, is also compelling. I hope the truth will be complete and justice will also be complete for these young girls at long last.
He was placed in protective custody in a prison for HIS SAFETY! Even the inmates here hate him. PC will mess with your psyche and his attorneys told him to act like that and chew on paper.
@BrandyinIndy i want it to be true.
He was under a safeguarding order.
They had to place him in facilities that could attend to his mental health requirements, and thats been a legal agreement since 2016 in indiana.
Plus they would probably stove his head in if he was placed in Gen Pop.
Listen to the testimonials from the Pretrial Hearings. Particularly the psychologists Testimony.
She believed him to be faking or exagerrating many of his symptoms...
@@BrandyinIndy Putting this man in max prison is punishment before he's found guilty,smacks of intimidation . Protective custody is possible in a county jail. Something about this case stinks. One expert getting arrested for falsifying records, evidence going missing.
@@BrandyinIndyyou’re using common sense and people don’t like that.
The Odinites are far more “interesting” than the heinous truth.
Lauren, I hope you can do shorthand or have someone with you who can. I'll be following your updates. Great to know we have a totally unbiased couple in the courtroom reporting on a case we have absolutely no way of following. Thanks for that.
Your summary was so well presented, albeit devastating! I will be paying close attention to this horrific case! Thanks Lauren!
There are power stations, trained citizen search and rescue units, local EMT's and police officers on duty for citizen safety, "tracking dogs" owned by private citizens, citizens with many flashlights and cold weather clothing, so, my question is; WHY STOP AN OFFICIAL INITIAL SEARCH WITHIN 24 HOURS?.
The fact that they didn't have a dog/s searching is 🤯!
What a awesome coverage of this heinous crime..Your hard work doesnt go unnoticed, Thank you.
I truly hope Abby & Libby's family will finally find closure one day..🙏
You truly have given the most comprehensive review of events leading up to this trial. I’ve never seen a better one. Thank you for providing the information.
Delphi is the real deal in the genre of a whodunit case. It’s the most interesting case of 2024. Indianas refusals to be transparent during the trial is a major concern imo. The redacted transcripts are sus as well.
Yes what or who are they covering up? It's very clear there is a cover up.
@bugsea54 it's the good old boys system there. Always has been and always will. Unless you were born there, you will always be on the outside. Heck, one of the judges got in trouble for meeting young girls in Lafayette. Sick stuff there.
Redacted transcripts are very, very common in any criminal case with public interest.
@@TSUNAMI-MAMI I agree with you, but this trial there were transcripts that weren’t ordered or released to counsel that were reported by a stenographer (or some other means) and redacted. To say a stenographer wasn’t present when the stenographer was present or to not want a stenographer to transcribe after ordered is sus imo, allegedly.
We haven't seen all the evidence yet but i tend to believe the FBI US Marshal's State & local police more than Defense lawyers. Plus he's confessed over 60 times. Justice For Abby & Libby 🙏
I’m not convinced they have the right guy
Same. A minor player, but 5%
That's what a jury of his peers gets to decide when they've heard all the evidence (which we haven't heard all of yet).
@@kittygirl133 but innocent until proven guilty and this guy has endured horrible conditions and wasted a lot of time in jail so far. I wonder if they’re even still trying to find other possible suspects. The only thing I’ve seen as far as evidence is that the bullet found near the scene is one that goes with his rifle? Idk look at Bryan kohberger..I’m not convinced he’s the if not only suspect involved and he’s not enduring the same awful treatment in prison
@@Laffy_Taphy50818 yes innocent until proven guilty. But that doesn't mean he shouldn't have to be in jail until the trial begins. Remember, a judge reviews the arrest warrant to make sure the police have enough evidence to make sure there is probable cause that the arrested has committed the charged crime.
I don't know where you heard that BK has been having a rough time in jail, but I haven't. It's certainly better conditions than the prison he will go to if he's convicted. Jail is cushy compared to that. And it's not supposed to be comfortable.
Edited to add: if RA has been wasting time in jail it is mostly because of the delays caused by the filings of his defense team. Otherwise the trial would have happened already. Same with BK for that matter.
@@kittygirl133 I’m not saying the suspect shouldn’t be in jail I’m just giving my opinion. And I’m saying BK as another suspect that I’m not convinced about isn’t being treated as horribly as Richard Allen but that’s just what I’m getting from what we’re being shown
Amazing recap Lauren - thank you! This is yet another crazy case...I'm so glad you're going to go!!! Your voice is so trustworthy and fair and I look forward to watching your court reports.
Lauren you are so good at breaking down the details of a case. I really appreciate it!
Thank you for being our eyes and ears in the trial as I know you have our backs!!! Good luck and please take care of yourself
I'm so glad you will be at this trial. I wouldn't trust anyone else to give us the details!
Thanx for the back story. Your the best! Can’t wait for Dr Johns perspective on this. ❤
So glad to hear you’ll be there covering this case! I live in nearby Lafayette and this case haunts us here. I’ve been a sub for awhile and followed all your coverage of Chad and Lori’s trials. Hope we get lunch lives for this one. Sounds like it’s gonna be very tight quarters for press and public. 5 seats I hear, for press. And not being allowed any single piece of technology when this case needs transparency the most is just beyond.
Yes, please get to the trial and report what you have learned. I like your reporting, factual and to the point. Keep it coming.
Thank you so much for all this background info before the trial starts.
Doesn’t seem like a case can get much crazier than this one. Seems like not every small town LE, prosecution and court may be up to the challenge of handling a crime such as this.
I think some predators count on this as well
WOW! I've seen coverage of this case but never heard all this stuff you shared Lauren! It really made me look at this case through a different perspective. I will definitely keep watching your updates on this Thank You!
Is there anyone who does it better than Lauren?! Seriously, such a talent for all to gain from! So succinct and covers it all.
Yep. Every other "True Crime " afficionado without major conflicts of interests, and who can actually write a coherent sentence without sounding like 50 Shades of Grey
This is a very well done piece. You present things chronologically which in this case I haven’t seen before. Appreciated
I get so sick of the media and public thinking they need to know every detail of these type of murders. Why can’t you understand telling something’s could compromise the case, but y’all don’t care you just want to be nosey for no other reason than to get a story to report.
I agree. People think it's some weird conspiracy, but information is held back for good reasons. They don't want to compromise the case by telling everything they know. It's done quite often in murder cases.
I can’t wait to hear you and John. I think there was a lot of cover up.
Thank you and John for all the information you put out there for people like me who are not able to attend. Aloha from Hawaii.
Ya something is definitely not adding up here
excellent job ! I’ve followed this case. One important fact, that was proven was, 2 of the prison guards that were guarding Richard had patches on their uniforms that said “In Odin We Trust” they ended up having to remove them. One other thing is that a prison inmate wrote a letter to the judge because he was so distressed about the abuse he was witnessing to Allen by these guards. This judge has been very biased also. She should not be hearing this case. To much reasonable doubt if the jury was able to hear ALL the evidence. I suspect many in this town are Odonists. He should have never been in that prison considering innocent until proven guilty. I’m so happy you will be going to watch and report first hand. Thank you 🙏
O phleeeeease about that Odin. We have them in Finland they fight against moslem immigrants they DO NOT commit any ritualistic murders. Especially children. They re just white supremacists, nothing ritualistic .
This isn't Hollywood. We're you also aware that Todd Click who was investigating the Odinist angle was previously arrested for falsifying documents - he was charged with official misconduct, forgery and falsifying information lol
CHANGE OF VENUE!!
Greetings from Canada! Thank you Lauren for the very informative episode. I will follow your channel as you and your husband cover this trial
Thank you for your support!! ❤️
Missing children searches are 5 - 10 mile radius ++ lasting weeks even --- Yet their bodies were found 1/2 mile away the next day...? How did that happen in a high search zone! This alone is highly SUSPICIOUS strongly suggesting 'an authority figure' was shady...!
Corruption or incompetence? I can't wait to find out.
Incompetence ALWAYS
Both. It's both in this case.
Ron Logan had plenty of time to stage a scene and destroy any evidence. He had the history of violence. Conveniently, he is deceased.
@@ErinAbou The interview with Ron Logan's former girl friend was significant. Definitely makes me think he was involved. Wouldn't we like to know if he had ties to the Odin cult they are talking about.
Were you aware that the majority of tips that come in to unsolved cases are from disgruntled ex partners.
Ron Logan was a geriatric who had lived on the property for 50 years. Why, at the ripe old age of 80, would he suddenly decide to run two sporty girls down a hillside and then just LEAVE their bodies on his own property.
The height estimates were vastly different too for a start.
Not to mention he was on film elsewhere and had an alibi.
He was thoroughly investigated by police and cleared.
Cmon ppl... little more critical thinking here
No cell phone pings but the phone was found under her body? Seems sus.
@@janicel.johnson1683 yeah you would think that he or they would’ve got rid of the cell phone or phones
Hi Lauren Mathias! Thank you for your coverage on this tragedy those poor kids and their grieving parents and their loved ones❤
I can't help but feel that the local authorities assigned blame for these murders to alleviate the pressure that they were under. There is a serious lack of communication with the public, and they're still not forthcoming with details. Nothing smells right.
You're so good at your job, Lauren! Thank you.
Lauren and John here at hidden true crime are the real deal. They center victims first and foremost. They continue to provide in-depth and researched analyses of criminals, including their backgrounds and traumas, that help the general public make sense of such heinous crimes. Lauren and John’s work has led me to multiple invaluable resources that have changed my parenting and personal wellness approaches for the better. I’m ready for Dr John’s input on this case. Together, Lauren and John illuminate the MO and origins of dangerous actors, to the benefit of us regular folks who desire to see justice and goodness in our world.
Dang idk...Logan sounds like bridge guy and walks like him too (18:20). Man, I wish this case had cameras in the court room. Good coverage by the way. First time watching your channe. Subscribed 😊l
You’re right, Ron seems to have the same gait and the way his pants fit him looks identical to bridge guy!
@@mtaylor1498I think its Richard Allen he looks just like Allen
wow lots of reasonable doubt in this short response.
I've listened over and over and over with 10 second rewind and holy shit I got shivers. Has this not ever been analyzed?!
@@MizDawncrazy isn't it? Voice analysis is done al the time. Not here..
You did an awesome job on this Lauren Thank you
Love you Lauren!! Thanks for all you do! 🫶🏼💕
Thank you for covering this in detail. Those precious girls need justice.❤
Delphi case by Hidden True Crime❤ Yay! Thank you Lauren.
Lori daybell goes to a mental institution and is pampered, yet a man whos guilt is in question is treated like an animal. Unbelievable!
Hes put away for his safetly yk people with his charges dont fare well in jail
@@ITZCHELSEA2244the abuse has been inflicted by jail employees not other inmates.
@@Safiyyah.610 he's at risk of worse treatment by other inmates tho
@@ITZCHELSEA2244I agree he might not be alive if he was held in the county's jail.
@@juniorjohnson5961 the judge is only trying to keep that from happening
You do an incredible job ❤ Thank you so much for this coverage (and all the others!)
Good video, thank you. There is some misinformation provided within, but very informative overall.
I hadn’t followed this tragedy in detail. You have done a fantastic job of explaining what has happened to date. It’s amazing the trial is only expected to take only one month given all that f the twists and turns this case has taken so far. I look forward to your future coverage.
Best breakdown of the case available... thank you for utilizing your investigative skills to bring us this unbiased look at the case. Looking forward to hearing " Dr John's insights on the behaviors of the different individuals involved.
Lauren, I appreciate the way you do these videos. Your calm telling of the facts helps me to understand the facts of the case. I am so glad you are going to the trial. If there was ever a case that needs sunshine, it's this one. ❤
You are doing a fabulous job reporting on this horrible crime, in Australia and we are not immune from this sort of crime. Love the report without unnecessary drama, great job❤logan doesn't fit description and allen had a very distingtive beard. I feel they just got someone just to satisfy the family
Thank you all this information and for going to be at the trial to give us updates.
I am really looking forward to hearing Dr. John’s analysis, and both your input on this case. Lauren, no one can outline a case as well as you can. No spinning whatsoever, but true reporting. You both are so gifted in your work, and it shows every time. The most trustworthy true crime podcast to date. ❤
I love these deep dives! Puts all the facts in one story!❤
Glad this is going to go to trial finally!
Do you know what day?
Thank you for your honest in-depth analysis of the testimony .
Thank you Laren for all you do and how well you cover this case.
I’m so glad you’re covering this. As others have stated, this case is incredibly messy, leaving so many of us confused. I would love to know your thoughts on legal representation on both sides and the myriad of concerns with Judge Gull. Thank you so much for all you do! I will be watching.
I want Abby and Libby (and their family’s) to get justice. I’m honestly so torn on this one. Too many things don’t seem right about the arrest of RA. Keeping him in prison pre trial is wrong. He should be in jail where his attorneys can visit him.
I just don’t trust the judge or prosecutors in this case. Between this case, Sandra Birchmore and Karen Read my trust in certain police departments is lacking. I back good policing, like the police in Rexburg, Idaho who worked on the Daybell case. We need more of them and fewer Michael Proctor’s in law enforcement.
There are too many questions and I hope we get answers during the trial.
@@LibraInSeattle they had to put RA in a safe place for everybody, remand is way worse place to be then state of corrections. He gets way more then if he was in delphi area jail
Thank you once again for reviewing this case. I'm looking forward to your coverage. RIP Abby & Libby ❤
thank you for doing this deep dive! I like many people watched the early investigation and then never knew what came of it! To find out all this stuff all these years later 🤯All I can say is, I'll be watching and you got a sub from me..
Roar! I am so sick and tired of corruption within law enforcement. 😓
This case is perhaps even more chilling than one could imagine. Thank you for such meticulous and professional journalism. I now have a much clearer view of how this case unfolded.