Really good video, as always. For all the same reasons, and that my current set up is an a6400 system, I'm looking at the FX-30 as my next purchase. I don't want to solve problems that don't need solving. I have good lenses, mics, lights, recording monitor, gimbal etc that will work seamlessly with the FX-30 and my biggest expense after the body purchase will be (probably) 2 Anton Bauer Titon kits for the FX-30 and a6400 to power the set up all day and a few more Crucial SSDs for my Ninja V. Moving up to the FX-3 is down the road when the time is right.
Very informative! The FX6 definitely has its place, it's just not in my world yet at least :D I think, if you do more serious gigs, maybe music video productions or actual filmmaking, then it makes sense, but honestly, I feel the same way. I can get a lot done with my FX3, big variety of shooting styles, and my A7IV always comes handy as a B-cam.
This might be a long post but I've used both cameras and feel like I want to make a few counter arguments. For anyone trying to decide between the two cameras here are my thoughts: As someone (a professional videographer) who has used both the fx3 and the fx6 in a multitude of professional settings, including events, corporate, fitness and so on, in all kinds of setups too from handheld to tripod, I personally found that I enjoyed shooting on the fx6 way more! The ergonomics of my camera is something I have overlooked so much in my career so far and using the fx6 showed me just how big of a difference it makes. Switching back to using the fx3 after the fx6 really made me realise although its a much better design than other mirrorless cameras, it's still a mirrorless camera, that really doesn't have appropriate ergonomics for shooting video comfortably for long periods. The lack of shutter angle in the fx3 is something that I find infuriating, everything just feels slower and clunky when using the fx3, changing basic settings on the fly feels like an effort, whereas with the fx6 everything is accessible on the side of the camera. I used to always look for ibis in my cameras but when I moved from the gh5 to the bmpcc 4k that soon became less of an issue. I've learned how to tuck my arms in, push the back of the camera into my chest and get stable shots, and with my experience using the fx6, the lack of ibis has never been a problem. Yes, with a light setup you will get some micro jitters but that's nothing a simple bit of stabilisation in DaVinci can't fix. The internal nd filters have become an integral part of shooting video for me, I hated having to screw filters on and off when changing lenses and in my opinion the internal nd is one of the most if not the most useful features for run and gun shooting. The size of the fx6 has also never been a negative, in fact more of a positive thing. Firstly, as much as we don't want to accept it, it looks way more professional and makes a much bigger impact on the client. This is something we're all used to hearing online but I've now experienced it for myself. I recently did a fitness shoot and a relatively famous personal trainer was there (1 million followers on instagram famous) he took a liking to my rig, commented about how professional it looked and asked lots of questions about it, he then followed me on instagram and said he would be in touch when he needs a videographer. All because of the size of my camera rig! Secondly, as we also all know building a rig helps to get those stable shots but also is supposed to make our cameras more comfortable to shoot with, that's why you see people rig out mirrorless cameras with side handles etc but the fx6 is ready to go out of the box, I love the side grip and the top handle is way better than the top handle on the fx3. I don't know about you but I simply cannot do professional work using the small lcd screen on any camera, especially the fx3, so using an external monitor is essential. Trying to find a place to mount a monitor on the fx3 while using the xlr handle is the biggest challenge, you can't do it without it being extremely imbalanced or very uncomfortable to hold. External power is my next problem with the fx3, I hate using the small batteries on long shoots, I always get range anxiety and since switching to v mounts I just can't go back. Now, where is the most suitable place for a v mount? At the back, but where are most of the controls and the screen for the fx3 placed? At the back. The battery baseplate Chris uses seems like a good option but for me looks uncomfortable to hold and makes the camera bottom heavy. I love being able to use BPU 60 or 90 batteries natively on the fx6 for pretty much all day battery. These sony batteries can, as Chris mentioned be expensive and hard to find but core swx make a great one with d-tap and usb a out, which is great so you can power your monitor as well and are significantly cheaper than the sony ones. One more thing to add is the fx6 can be powered via mains, something I love for those long interview / studio setups. To summarise I think Chris made some good points and if you are like him and predominately shoot either weddings or real estate the fx3 probably is the better option. But, if you are like myself and you shoot across a wide variety of video genres I personally would say the fx6 is the better way to go. I also think that the fx6 is a far better long term investment, just look at the recent fx30 release, basically an aps-c fx3 with just as many features and for half the price. But how many cameras are on the market with internal nd's and a professional body design with sdi and timecode? not many, cinema cameras don't change anywhere near as quick as mirrorless do. It also gives you more longevity in your career to progress to higher places, working on bigger sets with bigger crews, I know in the UK the fx6 is slowly becoming one of the most commonly used cameras in the low-mid range commercial space, and are used all the time by major sports media teams alongside the fx9. If I could only by one to fulfil all my needs as a video shooter, to help me tackle whatever a client may throw at me that day, I would pick the fx6 in a heartbeat.
Appreciate you and sharing your insight, this is great knowledge for people to be aware of. I think sometimes people forget every video everyone on TH-cam makes is their experience and thus their results/thoughts. All I’m ever doing is sharing mine based on what I use it for but always down for counter arguments, especially as yours are very well constructed. Again Thankyou for sharing. Let’s hope this makes its way to the top of the comments so others can see too the other side of things too ✌🏻
@@chrisbrockhurst much appreciate you taking time to reply Chris. I completely understand your point that you're just sharing your experience with a camera. I think it was an important video for you to make as often people just think oh the more expensive camera will be better without actually considering the ins and outs of owning / using it. Im also in the position where im trying to decide between the two as the ones I've used belong to a friend / work partner. I guess im trying to put my thoughts down so I can convince myself haha
@@chrisbrockhurst and @Sean : Really appreciate both of your insights on this! I've been trying to pull the trigger over the past year on the Fx6 and I think I'm leaning towards the fx6 mainly because I believe the best value camera is the Sony a7s3. The a7s3 imo, pound for pound is a better value especially with the addition of S-Cinetone. Yes you do lose some features out of the box, but a fully rigged a7s3, paired with the atomos ninja turns the camera into a monster! The jump from a7s3 to Fx3 (or Fx30) isn't that great. Going from the Fx3 to the Fx6, there's a stark difference, especially with the ND filters. Overall, I think you just have to ask yourself, what are you using the camera for to justify the purchase. All in all, thank you both for the content and providing value as always :).
Slam dunk on this. I own the fx6 and used the FX3 on a few projects. The user interface on the FX3 felt clunky and abysmal. VNDs on the front of the FX3 can never match up to the FX6s electronic vnd as there will always be color shift. It's just a camera designed for professionals. Most cine cameras don't have ibis so I get the point owning every oss lens sony makes myself for that reason...however almost all cine cameras don't really have ibis. The codec selection is because most people using this camera shoot the highest one by default because it's already a much more compressed format than raw. If I'm using a lens like the EZ-22-60 Zoom...not really very straightforward to rig that to the FX3 either.
I think glancing over the d tap equipped sony batteries out there is also an unfair oversight. You don't NEED v locks on the fx6. Using the built in battery slot is properly using all of its advantages.
I really wanted to love the FX6 and I ended up returning it and getting 3 FX3's instead. Aside from the lack of built in ND Filters I can do everything much faster on FX3 at half the cost and weight. Time = Money and FX6 slows me down.
Wow, I totally thought the opposite - I can just pick up the FX6 and shoot without any rigging. Still adore the FX3 .. just wish it didn’t overheat when shooting interviews for longer than 60 minutes and let you turn off noise reduction (also ridiculous Sony didn’t include shutter angle or proper exposure tools on a “cine-line” camera) - I think if Sony could take care of those shortcomings and make an FX3 style camera with electronic VND and no IBIS we’d have a nearly perfect camera
Wow some really great points about the FX6 such as the lack of codecs that I didn't know about! A lot of these reasons are why we went for the FX3 over the FX6, I love the FX6 form factor, as we also used to have an FS5 however I remember with that camera that even though its larger, its still hard to have a stable shot above 50mm due to lack of IBIS. The other issue I've had in the past with the FS7 was the monitor port breaking, because its hard to pack down I've also been a bit worried about the monitor cable or port breaking in transport. I think we all want an FX6 because it looks more 'pro' and has dials and form factor we think we need however after using an FS7 and FS5 for years I can tell you the FX3 is such a joy to use and pretty much the perfect camera (minus ND filters).
Dude, I totally agree on this. I have an FX6 and 2 FX3s but mostly do weddings at this point and the FX3 is SO much better for that purpose. Yeah, if I were doing more on-set jobs at this point maybe the FX6 would be better, but I'm really considering getting rid of it and getting 2 FX30s as extra cameras. Great video!
My production partner and I bought one of the first FX6s in Canada. At the same time, we both had A7Siiis. After 4 years of ownership, our FX6 has about 100 hours of use on it, and we shot a whole feature film on the A7Siiis. I know this video is a year old, but Chris, your observations are right on the money.
I have an FX6 and FX3 and never use IBIS on the FX3. I know a lot of people love the Sony IBIS but for me there’s something off about the motion cadence. In my experience, it’s better to take out the micro jitters naturally using a good shoulder rig or EasyRig, or just building the camera up so it’s heavier. Then you still have the option to use Catalyst Browse or throw a 1% warp stabilizer on to clean up any little imperfections. The end result is much more pleasing and natural than using IBIS. Although I recently learned that the unpaid version of Catalyst Browse can only export 8-bit footage so that’s a deal breaker.
Bought the FX3 last year to compliment the fx6. You just hit the nail on it's head. I didn't expect it but it turns out I grab the FX3 much more often than the FX6. Although I love operating the FX6 it's just not worth the hassle in most situations. Really funny how this works 😛
@@adamouellette5971 True, and comming from an fs7 and before that cameras like ex3 and ex1 the fx6 is a great compact camera with an amazing set of possibilities. Still the fx3 is an amazing little sister that goes in my travel bag a lot.
Respectful disagree. These are two completely different cameras. One is almost double the price of the other. People who buy an FX6 are not looking into buying something like an FX3. Interesting video but I’ll take an FX6 over an FX3 any day but I respect your perspective.
I bought fx6 in July as it popped up as in stock.. sold it few weeks later after realizing my fx3 is more than good enough and more convenient for me. Great video.
I remember I purchased a fx6 and was so exciting about it, but after some time of use, I was so pissed by that huge top and side handle, they r just so massive, and as you mentioned the no ibis was painful because I use a lot of cinema lens. One day, I tried my friend's c70, and was amazed by how it just got everything inside that body, no need to rig it up, no massive accessories, electronic stabliz was awsome, and 2 slr on the side of camera, the camera can easily fit in any bag. DGO sensor was great. the only thing I was consider as trouble was s35 sensor size. but simply use wider lens, problem solved, and s35 lens are way smaller. so I sold my fx6 and get a c70, happy with it for many jobs ever after. I also purchased fx3 for gimble and personal use because it's so small. I agree wityh your opionion, fx3 can do pretty much anything fx6 can do , the biggest advantage for fx6 currently in my opinion, is "pro looking" lol. FX6 is not consider a bad camera at all. but it's just way too much trouble to use it. If I really need a big or pro set up, I simply hire more crew and use arri or red.
Had absolutely 0 issues balancing an FX6 on the RS2 with a sennheiser wireless mic reciever, monitor and BPU-35 battery. Only needed one 100g counter weight. So would have thought the RS3 would be better! I have 2x35 and 2x60 batteries and that keeps me going through long filming days. I used a friends FX3 for a while waiting for my FX6 and I am so much happier with the FX6. Hated using the FX3.
I just directed a Netflix series that used both FX6 and FX3, each camera used for their strengths. The FX6 as our A & B Cams, FX3 as our C & D cams. They all look great. The FX6 had larger lenses and naturally the footage looked more high end than the FX3. But both great! Frustrating as a bmpc6k pro owner. I love that cam, but no image stabilization.
I went through a lot of the same stuff when I had my FX6 last year. I totally get it. Thanks for breaking it down for everyone who might be thinking about this upgrade.
The FX3 can provide the "EXACT" same end result image quality...and more...that the FX6 does. The biggest advantage that the FX6 has that the FX3 cannot compete with?....is that the FX6 looks sooooooooo damn COOL to paying customers. Let's face it,...the "show" factor of an FX6 vs FX3 is something we HATE to admit but it's a REAL thing when money is involved.
After testing and experiencing FX 6 for hand-held and run&gun style; I would say thanks for your advice, I was quiet not sure for switching to FX 3, however now I'm convinced to give it a try. Thanks
But he is saying for his use case "click baity title be damned" It's like saying how your off road truck isn't matching top speed with your sports car. I mean they have wheels right? So why not compare them in only one specific use case and say its "better".
@@danielstassen813 I own both cameras and can tell you just like the OP said, its not a "better" camera, its different for a different type of consumer or aspiring film maker. Over all there is a price difference for a reason and Chris made a whole video ignoring the applications of why you as a professional would be getting this camera. You're not getting an FX6 to do the jobs that he is stating. It's not that you cant do it but the question is why? The body is the biggest factor as to why you're also getting the camera but here it's presented as a negative, again its complaining about things that make 0 sense in context to what the camera is and who its for.
@@yusei151 I rented both and ended with way more and better footage from the FX6. It’s an amazing tool. I was frustrated and disappointed in the FX3. I now own the FX6 and couldn’t be happier. I don’t do handheld so the internal stabilisation is useless to me.
Chris, thanks so much for this down to earth comparison that helped me to reconsider my "yearning" for the fx6's NDs and "pro look". Small is beautiful.... All the best ! Mike
It took me 9 months to get the FX6. It just came in two weeks ago. I came from a GH5. It is one of the best cameras I’ve used. It has created so many different opportunities. IBIS is incredible with it. I just shot two weddings with the FX6. Not having IBIS like the GH5 is very interesting, but with the setup I have, it is still somewhat stable. I have the Tilta Kit with a CoreSWX 150W Battery and the SmallHD 702 Touch on hot shoe on the handle. It has worked out a bit. The main problem I have with the FX6 is the codec. I wish there was an option to switch an .MOV or .MP4 codec like the FX3 and A7SIII. For weddings and fast projects, a smaller 10-bit format would be great. I hope a firmware update comes to correct it.
Well, for the main target audience of the FX6 (which is broadcast or bigger productions), the IBIS is pretty much unwanted. FX3 is more for the youtuber crowd or run&gun solo operators like weddings. But anything bigger budget, show up with an FX3 and you'll be laughed at since you are missing basics like SDI. Don't know why nobody addresses this, but HDMI is nothing more than a prosumer standard and will not got far on set.
Finally someone who knows what their talking about. I too am in the broadcast world so sdi out and high bit rate is a must, something the fx3 cannot do.
Every video editing software has the ability to stabilize in post… Been doing that since the FS5mkii. Unless your recording on a mountain bike riding down a trail you can get smooth footage from post stabilization.
@@ChrisParayno Hi, would you mind elaborating on why you would need the SDI out? I'm considering getting the fx3 and fx6 and trying to weigh all the pros and cons that I may not even know about :)
Good testimony, thanks! I, as many FX6 users, have come to the same issue / stab. However I still love that camera, Auto ND filters & Shutter angle +++ I'm quite recent in video world, shooting docs essentially and I'll try to persevere for a while. Burano seems the answer but beyong reach 🙂
I absolute don't agree! The FX6 not only has the build in ND filter with the bokeh control, but the better looking picture, the way better handling and the much more professional look. For the benefits of the FX3 I use an A7IV instead which has the sharper picture because of its 7k to 4k downsampling, a great photo quality with its 33mp sensor and even a better look than the FX3 which matches perfectly to the FX6. Just look at all of the comparison videos on TH-cam! And it is cheaper than the FX3. With the combination of the FX6 and the A7IV you can leave the A7IV mounted on a gimbal with wideangle lenses and use the FX6 on a tripod or handheld wit telephoto lenses.
We just bought 2 FX3's, and they're freaking amazing. We've never personally used the FX6 but we've heard from users that the FX3 (with the latest firmware upgrade) it's just as good as, if not better than an FX6.
Don't forget about cache highlight recording up to 30 secs - this thing is savior of footage. Working with FX6 also feels much more professional. It all depends if user can handle it the right way and both cameras are amazing - no debate. My first experience was BMPCC4K without IBIS/AF which became a great lesson - I learnt everything to do myself from stabilizing to focusing manually. The problem is from what I've seen that many people don't even know how to properly move with camera and that's crucial thing in my opinion. From my POV shaky footage wasn't bad at all. Sometimes shaky footage feels much more better than static footage - to be fair, not in this case. But I must say showing 135mm focal length isn't the best example. It just shows that FX3 active stabilization is great. FX6 handles 25-75mm handheld job brilliantly and that's something people should see. In the end - best thing is to own one of each.
Good one, Chris, thanks. I didn‘t even want to see this video, when reading its title, as I am an FX6 user, and love it. But, hey, true! We are working around problems, we should not have.
Love the video. The Fx6 and Fx3 definitely are two different cameras for two different users. If you coming from the song alpha line of cameras the fx3 is gonna offer a very familiar feel. While the Fx6 is for operators that are looking to take their first jump into cinema cameras.
I love my fx6 whilst it might be a slower setup - i can’t help feel that it’s image looks more organic than the fx3 - also I love the ergonomics of the fx6 :)
The more professional and expensive look of the FX6 does impress clients more apparently. It can get more work and higher pay. Just depends how you can use it effectively for the type of work you do. Seems more suited to static corporate work like on-stage events, interviews and documentaries.
I've been weighing the ND vs stabilization compromise in my head for about a year now 😅 With Sony's decision to rely on IBIS rather than adding it to their lenses as well, it seems it becomes more and more essential to have a body which features it. I'm getting pretty comfy with a VND now but having something automatic while maintaining IBIS would be the dream. Great breakdown Chris!
Hi Chris, I appreciate your videos and your great work. I must agree to disagree on this one though. I rented both for a couple of days and ended up with WAY more amazing shots using the FX6 rather than the FX3. The ease of use of the FX6 makes taking amazing footage so easy. To me the FX6 is a much better tool and is a different league compared to the fx3. Comparing these two cameras may actually be misleading to people who haven’t tried them. My advice for anyone considering either one is to rent both for a couple of days and then decide which one you prefer. One cannot base a purchase decision by watching reviews. Try them then decide. I tried both and ended up buying an FX6. I mostly use my FX6 on a tripod and don’t shot handheld. For that use the FX6 is better than the FX3. If handheld shooting is your thing then the FX3 is probably better. Anyway stop reading comments and watching review and rent both of them to make a better informed decision.
Very informative video and also very interesting. It just makes the FX3 that much more of a camera than I thought it was. I really want one but I’m sticking with my a7S3. Great video!
This is a very helpful video cause I was always in the same mindset like "I want that vnd😱 and cine cameras don't have ibis either" but damn it's so shaky without stabilisation and I don't know why people try to talk everyone out of having ibis. I'm a solo shooter and don't have the equipment and crew to stabilize my heavy cam setup. That's the same reason why I am struggling getting the blackmagic cameras. They are lovely but these micro jitters 🥲
Why not just using a good tripod? I have the sachler flowtech 75 with an aktiv 8 fluid head for my fx6. It’s easy to carry around and quick to deploy and move around
@@danielstassen813 yeah a really lovely tripod and on my wish list but i kinda like the freedom you get with handheld shooting. Tripod is just a different type. An option would also be a Monopol I think
I couldn't agree with you more. I've shot doc work and commercial content on an a7s3 for the last two years and rented an fx6 to try it out on a job. I saw some really nice things out of it, but for the most part I kept thinking "there's nothing wrong with the setup I was using before." I didn't really feel like I got a lot of the extra bang that the FX6 was supposed to bring. Glad I'm not crazy and you're sort of saying the same thing.
Whatever you said is right for wedding and some kinda run and gun situation.. but if it’s a controlled situation then fx6 is the way.. especially with the inbuilt ND.
Idk man.. with a lighter rig like the fx3, you get even more shake and jitters. And now you need to get duplicate NDs for each lens, remember each ND, buy an XLR jack which starts balacing upwards, then a potential monitor which also stacks even higher. Now you're holding enough pieces to create your frankenrig as long as you don't forget any of the detachable parts.
They both have there place.I do believe however that the FX 6 falls in to the professional camera category.The FX3 is a great B camera wich is very portable.Either way,you can’t go wrong with either one (or both) of them.Having invested in a lot of GM lenses I’m committed to Sony regardless.
This is a really really good video! I was day dreaming purchasing the fx6 but now i won’t. Already have the fx3 with this video if i need it just buy another fx3. Thank you!!!
Aha, I JUST got the FX6! I'm actually leaning towards those Shape/Hawk-Woods batteries that have 2 dtaps on them, 98wH. But I, too, will be buying them used. I sold my A7S III and one of my A7 IVs for the FX6 so pretty good trade. Still got the FX3 and another IV as well. Just don't think I really wanna do photography anymore, at least t weddings. But really, I want to get into the commercial space....just trying to figure out how to get going as I have 0 commercial work in my portfolio.
Shooting fiction, I like to use fx3 with fx6. together. in fiction it is necessary have the camera on for a long time (so camera technicians, designers and assistants can monitoring). There are times when the fx6 is on a tripod while people working on the set. The FX3 should not be on for long periods on because it overheats and little batteries inside. FX6 really is PRO while FX3 look like pro.
As someone who has both, definitely FX6 is better imo. The ONLY thing I like the fx3 for is the accessibility to take it with me everywhere with ease in case I can get some good shots whereas to take the fx6 I have to do some planning and can’t just pull it out to shoot real quick. But still, Fx6 is better overall imo
Fx3 family over here… Still a beginner to it all, but loving it so far. Fx6 is way too much camera for me… size alone I couldn’t do it. 🤣 thanks for another great video!
This is totally subjective to what you shoot. For my needs, the FX6 is the better option (specifically because of the VND). Also, shooting 135 mil handheld is such an odd example cause no sane production would ask for that. You’re on sticks every time. I do have an A7siii and enjoy using it, but it’s always reserved as a B cam or gimbal cam.
I contacted Sony Cine support about this. They said the codec limitations are an issue with the MXF container. For some reason you can have 1080p 10-bit in Long-GOP, but not 4K 10-bit in Long-GOP. It's quite disappointing that it's lacking a 4K 10-bit Long-GOP option. Add onto that, the internal variable ND doesn't work with CPL filters, which I rely upon a lot. Then there's the audio... the FX3 has 4 channels of audio built into the handle, and an ⅛" on the body... it's frustrating that the FX6 only has 2 inputs via the handle (not including the built in scratch mic). Then, there's the issue that the FX6 cannot be remotely triggered via bluetooth or USB-C like the FX3, so while on a gimbal you have to manually press record on the camera instead of using a button on your gimbal.
I'm thinking about getting an FX6 but listening to what people say about the FX3 or FX30. The main problem I found, with that form factor, is the inability to see what is going on. On a sunny day you can't see what is on that little screen. You can't see what is in focus, what the exposure is framing nada. You need a video camera to film video. To make them usable you need to rig them u to look like a cinema camera.
That’s exactly what I experienced when I rented an FX3! The little screen is difficult to see in sunlight. And, the touch focus on such a little screen is frustrating. No issue with the screen of the FX6. I never miss a shot with it. With the fx3 I found myself struggling to get the shot trying to touch focus with my big fingers on a hard to see screen. Rent the FX6 you will likely love it unless you shoot weddings and real estate
Have you tried using your FX6 on a monopod? I shoot all my weddings with a monopod and it's the best way to have a steady stationary shot and still be mobile. I haven't used a cinema body that's about the size of the FX6 on one however, so I'm curious to know if it's feasible on a monopod
Fx6 auto ND’s are a game changer. Unless you’re using your fx3 without panning or tilting. You cannot get perfect exposure on the fx3 if you are moving the camera around. The exposure will immediately change when lighting conditions vary.
Very helpful, thank you! I was thinking of an FS6, Will wait for a7s5 to come out in the future with the a7r5 features but better filter and moire and rolling shutter. In the meantime... what to do!!!
If you need to use any telephoto lens for an extended period of time handheld (100-400, 70-200mm) the fx6 on the shoulder is the only option. If you run 24-70mm or 24-105mm or primes most often, and are not doing long takes, then fx3, a7s3, etc are the way to go. Different cameras for different purposes. But still the dream is ibis plus EVND....someday..and probably not too far away.
still wish the darn cable on the LCD screen of the FX6 was longer so I could get the camera further back on my shoulder. Any engineers out there who want to make me a custom extension cable for sony LCDs, hit me up! I do realize I could get a HDMI or hd-sdi monitor, but I don't wan to then have to power that with batteries adding more weight and chargers and hassle.
I love my fx6, it’s not for everyone. It’s a professional camera. You have to educate yourself on it. I’m only upgrading up. The Venice is my next stop. Now if I was a casual run and gun just want to have fun videographer I’ll say get the fx3 but if you are doing professional work then the FX6,FX9 or the Venice is your money maker.
Hey Mark, If your focus is videography, than I'd recomend saving up for a A7SIII, or an FX3. The FX30 is fine, but the super 35 sensor might throw off the focal length when paired with full frame glass (Not really an issue, just something to note before filming). The A7IV is great if you plan on shooting both photo and video, but ONE thing to note is that the A7IV has insane rolling shutter and I wouldn't recomend using it for movement shots. Hope this helps.
I would not recommend the FX6 for solo wedding shooters like yourself. That’s a definite. For light-carry, tight quarters, on and off gimbal, dodging people on the dance floor sorts of video, the FX3 does work fairly well. However, if you’re looking to break into corporate and agency work where you want to look the part and provide a low latency feed to a director or work with a focus puller and have multiple output feeds (on and on) then you’re going to struggle to pull that off with an FX3. And in that case the FX6 is a cost effective choice for building a kit for more complex shoot environments.
I just watched someone give up on the Red Komodo for the FX6. Now it’s giving up the FX6 for the FX3. Someone needs to make one where they just do all their production with an iPhone 😂
I have one essential question. Do you see the difference in image quality between the two cams regarding the Codecs and file sizes? What do u think is the minimum of file size for a 10bit 422 24p 4k Codec you should have? Is 200mbps enough? And why are the files so huge on the fx6? Thx for the answers and nice video!
200mbps in what codec is the question. Generally 200mbps is bare minimum you want for UHD 10b. Especially in LOG. If shooting higher frame rate you must multiply the bitrate.
Automatic win for the FX3 since it can fit on a small gimbal. Former RED owner and always having to use sticks or shoulder mounts sucks. Give me a small camera on a gimbal all day. The FX3 with the 24-70 GM, gimbal, and Nici True Color Variable ND is all you need.
This is such an incredibly weird video. It's like somebody buys a race car but they only drive in the city and they complain how the car is not really made to be driven in the city...
7:20 I can fit my FX6 with big 190wh vLock and 28-135mm, and a bunch of extra batteries, monitor etc. in a real camera bag, a boxy one, easily! You need to have real and correct tools for the job. And trust me, that fx6 is SMALL, compared to some setups I've been to in tv series shoots...
Your complaints seems so trivial. I can take the FX6 in your configuration and just put it on the passenger seat next to me if I drive somewhere else. I like both cameras for different reasons. Yes the only downside I see in the FX6 is the shakiness. But then a lot of mirror less camera‘s are also very shaky. Having both cameras, as you seem to do, solves all the problems.
FX3 Owners, this ones for you!
Love my FX3. Really enjoyed the video Chris.
Really good video, as always. For all the same reasons, and that my current set up is an a6400 system, I'm looking at the FX-30 as my next purchase. I don't want to solve problems that don't need solving. I have good lenses, mics, lights, recording monitor, gimbal etc that will work seamlessly with the FX-30 and my biggest expense after the body purchase will be (probably) 2 Anton Bauer Titon kits for the FX-30 and a6400 to power the set up all day and a few more Crucial SSDs for my Ninja V.
Moving up to the FX-3 is down the road when the time is right.
FX3 vs BMD 6K Pro.... thoughts?
Very informative! The FX6 definitely has its place, it's just not in my world yet at least :D I think, if you do more serious gigs, maybe music video productions or actual filmmaking, then it makes sense, but honestly, I feel the same way. I can get a lot done with my FX3, big variety of shooting styles, and my A7IV always comes handy as a B-cam.
What variable ND did you use for your FX3?
This might be a long post but I've used both cameras and feel like I want to make a few counter arguments. For anyone trying to decide between the two cameras here are my thoughts:
As someone (a professional videographer) who has used both the fx3 and the fx6 in a multitude of professional settings, including events, corporate, fitness and so on, in all kinds of setups too from handheld to tripod, I personally found that I enjoyed shooting on the fx6 way more! The ergonomics of my camera is something I have overlooked so much in my career so far and using the fx6 showed me just how big of a difference it makes. Switching back to using the fx3 after the fx6 really made me realise although its a much better design than other mirrorless cameras, it's still a mirrorless camera, that really doesn't have appropriate ergonomics for shooting video comfortably for long periods. The lack of shutter angle in the fx3 is something that I find infuriating, everything just feels slower and clunky when using the fx3, changing basic settings on the fly feels like an effort, whereas with the fx6 everything is accessible on the side of the camera.
I used to always look for ibis in my cameras but when I moved from the gh5 to the bmpcc 4k that soon became less of an issue. I've learned how to tuck my arms in, push the back of the camera into my chest and get stable shots, and with my experience using the fx6, the lack of ibis has never been a problem. Yes, with a light setup you will get some micro jitters but that's nothing a simple bit of stabilisation in DaVinci can't fix. The internal nd filters have become an integral part of shooting video for me, I hated having to screw filters on and off when changing lenses and in my opinion the internal nd is one of the most if not the most useful features for run and gun shooting.
The size of the fx6 has also never been a negative, in fact more of a positive thing. Firstly, as much as we don't want to accept it, it looks way more professional and makes a much bigger impact on the client. This is something we're all used to hearing online but I've now experienced it for myself. I recently did a fitness shoot and a relatively famous personal trainer was there (1 million followers on instagram famous) he took a liking to my rig, commented about how professional it looked and asked lots of questions about it, he then followed me on instagram and said he would be in touch when he needs a videographer. All because of the size of my camera rig! Secondly, as we also all know building a rig helps to get those stable shots but also is supposed to make our cameras more comfortable to shoot with, that's why you see people rig out mirrorless cameras with side handles etc but the fx6 is ready to go out of the box, I love the side grip and the top handle is way better than the top handle on the fx3. I don't know about you but I simply cannot do professional work using the small lcd screen on any camera, especially the fx3, so using an external monitor is essential. Trying to find a place to mount a monitor on the fx3 while using the xlr handle is the biggest challenge, you can't do it without it being extremely imbalanced or very uncomfortable to hold.
External power is my next problem with the fx3, I hate using the small batteries on long shoots, I always get range anxiety and since switching to v mounts I just can't go back. Now, where is the most suitable place for a v mount? At the back, but where are most of the controls and the screen for the fx3 placed? At the back. The battery baseplate Chris uses seems like a good option but for me looks uncomfortable to hold and makes the camera bottom heavy. I love being able to use BPU 60 or 90 batteries natively on the fx6 for pretty much all day battery. These sony batteries can, as Chris mentioned be expensive and hard to find but core swx make a great one with d-tap and usb a out, which is great so you can power your monitor as well and are significantly cheaper than the sony ones. One more thing to add is the fx6 can be powered via mains, something I love for those long interview / studio setups.
To summarise I think Chris made some good points and if you are like him and predominately shoot either weddings or real estate the fx3 probably is the better option. But, if you are like myself and you shoot across a wide variety of video genres I personally would say the fx6 is the better way to go. I also think that the fx6 is a far better long term investment, just look at the recent fx30 release, basically an aps-c fx3 with just as many features and for half the price. But how many cameras are on the market with internal nd's and a professional body design with sdi and timecode? not many, cinema cameras don't change anywhere near as quick as mirrorless do. It also gives you more longevity in your career to progress to higher places, working on bigger sets with bigger crews, I know in the UK the fx6 is slowly becoming one of the most commonly used cameras in the low-mid range commercial space, and are used all the time by major sports media teams alongside the fx9.
If I could only by one to fulfil all my needs as a video shooter, to help me tackle whatever a client may throw at me that day, I would pick the fx6 in a heartbeat.
Appreciate you and sharing your insight, this is great knowledge for people to be aware of.
I think sometimes people forget every video everyone on TH-cam makes is their experience and thus their results/thoughts. All I’m ever doing is sharing mine based on what I use it for but always down for counter arguments, especially as yours are very well constructed.
Again Thankyou for sharing. Let’s hope this makes its way to the top of the comments so others can see too the other side of things too ✌🏻
@@chrisbrockhurst much appreciate you taking time to reply Chris. I completely understand your point that you're just sharing your experience with a camera. I think it was an important video for you to make as often people just think oh the more expensive camera will be better without actually considering the ins and outs of owning / using it.
Im also in the position where im trying to decide between the two as the ones I've used belong to a friend / work partner. I guess im trying to put my thoughts down so I can convince myself haha
@@chrisbrockhurst and @Sean : Really appreciate both of your insights on this! I've been trying to pull the trigger over the past year on the Fx6 and I think I'm leaning towards the fx6 mainly because I believe the best value camera is the Sony a7s3. The a7s3 imo, pound for pound is a better value especially with the addition of S-Cinetone. Yes you do lose some features out of the box, but a fully rigged a7s3, paired with the atomos ninja turns the camera into a monster! The jump from a7s3 to Fx3 (or Fx30) isn't that great. Going from the Fx3 to the Fx6, there's a stark difference, especially with the ND filters. Overall, I think you just have to ask yourself, what are you using the camera for to justify the purchase. All in all, thank you both for the content and providing value as always :).
Slam dunk on this. I own the fx6 and used the FX3 on a few projects. The user interface on the FX3 felt clunky and abysmal. VNDs on the front of the FX3 can never match up to the FX6s electronic vnd as there will always be color shift. It's just a camera designed for professionals. Most cine cameras don't have ibis so I get the point owning every oss lens sony makes myself for that reason...however almost all cine cameras don't really have ibis. The codec selection is because most people using this camera shoot the highest one by default because it's already a much more compressed format than raw. If I'm using a lens like the EZ-22-60 Zoom...not really very straightforward to rig that to the FX3 either.
I think glancing over the d tap equipped sony batteries out there is also an unfair oversight. You don't NEED v locks on the fx6. Using the built in battery slot is properly using all of its advantages.
I really wanted to love the FX6 and I ended up returning it and getting 3 FX3's instead. Aside from the lack of built in ND Filters I can do everything much faster on FX3 at half the cost and weight. Time = Money and FX6 slows me down.
I remember you saying exactly this, it’s so true and really only one of those things you realize once you’ve tried it.
Wow, I totally thought the opposite - I can just pick up the FX6 and shoot without any rigging. Still adore the FX3 .. just wish it didn’t overheat when shooting interviews for longer than 60 minutes and let you turn off noise reduction (also ridiculous Sony didn’t include shutter angle or proper exposure tools on a “cine-line” camera) - I think if Sony could take care of those shortcomings and make an FX3 style camera with electronic VND and no IBIS we’d have a nearly perfect camera
@@kazlepek6552 your FX3 is defective if it’s overheating.
🤓3 months later and I bought an FX6
@@mondobytes Once you get used to that form factor it’s hard to go back 🤠
Wow some really great points about the FX6 such as the lack of codecs that I didn't know about! A lot of these reasons are why we went for the FX3 over the FX6,
I love the FX6 form factor, as we also used to have an FS5 however I remember with that camera that even though its larger, its still hard to have a stable shot above 50mm due to lack of IBIS.
The other issue I've had in the past with the FS7 was the monitor port breaking, because its hard to pack down I've also been a bit worried about the monitor cable or port breaking in transport.
I think we all want an FX6 because it looks more 'pro' and has dials and form factor we think we need however after using an FS7 and FS5 for years I can tell you the FX3 is such a joy to use and pretty much the perfect camera (minus ND filters).
Dude, I totally agree on this. I have an FX6 and 2 FX3s but mostly do weddings at this point and the FX3 is SO much better for that purpose. Yeah, if I were doing more on-set jobs at this point maybe the FX6 would be better, but I'm really considering getting rid of it and getting 2 FX30s as extra cameras. Great video!
Do you shoot Hollywood weddings? lol seems like they bring in the big bux
My production partner and I bought one of the first FX6s in Canada. At the same time, we both had A7Siiis. After 4 years of ownership, our FX6 has about 100 hours of use on it, and we shot a whole feature film on the A7Siiis. I know this video is a year old, but Chris, your observations are right on the money.
I have an FX6 and FX3 and never use IBIS on the FX3. I know a lot of people love the Sony IBIS but for me there’s something off about the motion cadence. In my experience, it’s better to take out the micro jitters naturally using a good shoulder rig or EasyRig, or just building the camera up so it’s heavier. Then you still have the option to use Catalyst Browse or throw a 1% warp stabilizer on to clean up any little imperfections. The end result is much more pleasing and natural than using IBIS. Although I recently learned that the unpaid version of Catalyst Browse can only export 8-bit footage so that’s a deal breaker.
Bought the FX3 last year to compliment the fx6. You just hit the nail on it's head. I didn't expect it but it turns out I grab the FX3 much more often than the FX6. Although I love operating the FX6 it's just not worth the hassle in most situations. Really funny how this works 😛
what hassle? The ergonomics are soooo much better!
@@adamouellette5971 True, and comming from an fs7 and before that cameras like ex3 and ex1 the fx6 is a great compact camera with an amazing set of possibilities. Still the fx3 is an amazing little sister that goes in my travel bag a lot.
Respectful disagree. These are two completely different cameras. One is almost double the price of the other.
People who buy an FX6 are not looking into buying something like an FX3.
Interesting video but I’ll take an FX6 over an FX3 any day but I respect your perspective.
Ahhh glad to see you watched the video .
@@chrisbrockhurst I updated my comment 🥲
I bought fx6 in July as it popped up as in stock.. sold it few weeks later after realizing my fx3 is more than good enough and more convenient for me. Great video.
and there we go! thankyou for sharing. Theres so little content out there about this so really wanted to share the knowledge
Bro what’s best FX3? FX6?
I remember I purchased a fx6 and was so exciting about it, but after some time of use, I was so pissed by that huge top and side handle, they r just so massive, and as you mentioned the no ibis was painful because I use a lot of cinema lens.
One day, I tried my friend's c70, and was amazed by how it just got everything inside that body, no need to rig it up, no massive accessories, electronic stabliz was awsome, and 2 slr on the side of camera, the camera can easily fit in any bag. DGO sensor was great. the only thing I was consider as trouble was s35 sensor size. but simply use wider lens, problem solved, and s35 lens are way smaller. so I sold my fx6 and get a c70, happy with it for many jobs ever after.
I also purchased fx3 for gimble and personal use because it's so small. I agree wityh your opionion, fx3 can do pretty much anything fx6 can do , the biggest advantage for fx6 currently in my opinion, is "pro looking" lol. FX6 is not consider a bad camera at all. but it's just way too much trouble to use it. If I really need a big or pro set up, I simply hire more crew and use arri or red.
Had absolutely 0 issues balancing an FX6 on the RS2 with a sennheiser wireless mic reciever, monitor and BPU-35 battery. Only needed one 100g counter weight. So would have thought the RS3 would be better! I have 2x35 and 2x60 batteries and that keeps me going through long filming days. I used a friends FX3 for a while waiting for my FX6 and I am so much happier with the FX6. Hated using the FX3.
I just directed a Netflix series that used both FX6 and FX3, each camera used for their strengths. The FX6 as our A & B Cams, FX3 as our C & D cams. They all look great. The FX6 had larger lenses and naturally the footage looked more high end than the FX3. But both great! Frustrating as a bmpc6k pro owner. I love that cam, but no image stabilization.
As someone who was on the fence between these two, this was very helpful thank you!
I appreciate this video. I’ve felt camera envy for an FX6, but for the amount of air travel I do, having two a7sIII bodies I can carry on is clutch.
That’s exactly why I made this, I felt that envy too
I went through a lot of the same stuff when I had my FX6 last year. I totally get it. Thanks for breaking it down for everyone who might be thinking about this upgrade.
Thanks for getting me the FX6 😘
@@chrisbrockhurst You're welcome dude! I did try and talk you out of it a year ago... We made a video about it, right? Haha!
The FX3 can provide the "EXACT" same end result image quality...and more...that the FX6 does. The biggest advantage that the FX6 has that the FX3 cannot compete with?....is that the FX6 looks sooooooooo damn COOL to paying customers. Let's face it,...the "show" factor of an FX6 vs FX3 is something we HATE to admit but it's a REAL thing when money is involved.
False, different tools for different jobs.
After testing and experiencing FX 6 for hand-held and run&gun style; I would say thanks for your advice, I was quiet not sure for switching to FX 3, however now I'm convinced to give it a try. Thanks
as an fx6 and fx3 owner the fx3 is not better lol
But he is saying for his use case "click baity title be damned" It's like saying how your off road truck isn't matching top speed with your sports car. I mean they have wheels right? So why not compare them in only one specific use case and say its "better".
Everyone’s experiences will vary. Just sharing mine, thanks for your insight and the watch though fella
Saying that the FX3 is a better camera than the FX6 is like saying a BMW is better than a Ferrari. It only makes sense if you own the BMW
@@danielstassen813 I own both cameras and can tell you just like the OP said, its not a "better" camera, its different for a different type of consumer or aspiring film maker. Over all there is a price difference for a reason and Chris made a whole video ignoring the applications of why you as a professional would be getting this camera. You're not getting an FX6 to do the jobs that he is stating. It's not that you cant do it but the question is why? The body is the biggest factor as to why you're also getting the camera but here it's presented as a negative, again its complaining about things that make 0 sense in context to what the camera is and who its for.
@@yusei151 I rented both and ended with way more and better footage from the FX6. It’s an amazing tool. I was frustrated and disappointed in the FX3. I now own the FX6 and couldn’t be happier. I don’t do handheld so the internal stabilisation is useless to me.
I do own fx9 and 3 and pretty lucky with that combo for almost every job I have to get done.
Chris, thanks so much for this down to earth comparison that helped me to reconsider my "yearning" for the fx6's NDs and "pro look". Small is beautiful.... All the best ! Mike
Literally, I was a second from purchasing it, as it's back in stock. Thanks for saving me ;)
It took me 9 months to get the FX6. It just came in two weeks ago.
I came from a GH5. It is one of the best cameras I’ve used. It has created so many different opportunities. IBIS is incredible with it.
I just shot two weddings with the FX6. Not having IBIS like the GH5 is very interesting, but with the setup I have, it is still somewhat stable. I have the Tilta Kit with a CoreSWX 150W Battery and the SmallHD 702 Touch on hot shoe on the handle. It has worked out a bit.
The main problem I have with the FX6 is the codec. I wish there was an option to switch an .MOV or .MP4 codec like the FX3 and A7SIII. For weddings and fast projects, a smaller 10-bit format would be great. I hope a firmware update comes to correct it.
I still use the gh5 for wedding vids. I was thinking of a canon c70 or fx3. I think the fx6 might be tough on a gimbal.
@@manilamartin1001 DJI RS3 Pro works
FX-6 first choice. (would never give up the EVND) FX30 B-cam for hh or stable rigs.
Well, for the main target audience of the FX6 (which is broadcast or bigger productions), the IBIS is pretty much unwanted. FX3 is more for the youtuber crowd or run&gun solo operators like weddings. But anything bigger budget, show up with an FX3 and you'll be laughed at since you are missing basics like SDI. Don't know why nobody addresses this, but HDMI is nothing more than a prosumer standard and will not got far on set.
Finally someone who knows what their talking about. I too am in the broadcast world so sdi out and high bit rate is a must, something the fx3 cannot do.
Every video editing software has the ability to stabilize in post…
Been doing that since the FS5mkii. Unless your recording on a mountain bike riding down a trail you can get smooth footage from post stabilization.
@@ChrisParayno Hi, would you mind elaborating on why you would need the SDI out? I'm considering getting the fx3 and fx6 and trying to weigh all the pros and cons that I may not even know about :)
Good testimony, thanks! I, as many FX6 users, have come to the same issue / stab. However I still love that camera, Auto ND filters & Shutter angle +++ I'm quite recent in video world, shooting docs essentially and I'll try to persevere for a while. Burano seems the answer but beyong reach 🙂
Take a monopod when shooting with the FX6 - its quick and stabile. In addition use Catalyst Browse for more stabilisation...
I absolute don't agree! The FX6 not only has the build in ND filter with the bokeh control, but the better looking picture, the way better handling and the much more professional look. For the benefits of the FX3 I use an A7IV instead which has the sharper picture because of its 7k to 4k downsampling, a great photo quality with its 33mp sensor and even a better look than the FX3 which matches perfectly to the FX6. Just look at all of the comparison videos on TH-cam! And it is cheaper than the FX3. With the combination of the FX6 and the A7IV you can leave the A7IV mounted on a gimbal with wideangle lenses and use the FX6 on a tripod or handheld wit telephoto lenses.
We just bought 2 FX3's, and they're freaking amazing. We've never personally used the FX6 but we've heard from users that the FX3 (with the latest firmware upgrade) it's just as good as, if not better than an FX6.
never heard that one lol
Don't forget about cache highlight recording up to 30 secs - this thing is savior of footage. Working with FX6 also feels much more professional. It all depends if user can handle it the right way and both cameras are amazing - no debate.
My first experience was BMPCC4K without IBIS/AF which became a great lesson - I learnt everything to do myself from stabilizing to focusing manually. The problem is from what I've seen that many people don't even know how to properly move with camera and that's crucial thing in my opinion. From my POV shaky footage wasn't bad at all. Sometimes shaky footage feels much more better than static footage - to be fair, not in this case. But I must say showing 135mm focal length isn't the best example. It just shows that FX3 active stabilization is great. FX6 handles 25-75mm handheld job brilliantly and that's something people should see. In the end - best thing is to own one of each.
Good one, Chris, thanks. I didn‘t even want to see this video, when reading its title, as I am an FX6 user, and love it. But, hey, true! We are working around problems, we should not have.
Love the video. The Fx6 and Fx3 definitely are two different cameras for two different users. If you coming from the song alpha line of cameras the fx3 is gonna offer a very familiar feel. While the Fx6 is for operators that are looking to take their first jump into cinema cameras.
I love my fx6 whilst it might be a slower setup - i can’t help feel that it’s image looks more organic than the fx3 - also I love the ergonomics of the fx6 :)
I have coveted the FX6 since it came out but now you got me feeling some type of way😅
The more professional and expensive look of the FX6 does impress clients more apparently. It can get more work and higher pay. Just depends how you can use it effectively for the type of work you do. Seems more suited to static corporate work like on-stage events, interviews and documentaries.
Omg i have been considering these two for the longest time and after watching your video I'm pretty much sure which to get!
I've been weighing the ND vs stabilization compromise in my head for about a year now 😅 With Sony's decision to rely on IBIS rather than adding it to their lenses as well, it seems it becomes more and more essential to have a body which features it. I'm getting pretty comfy with a VND now but having something automatic while maintaining IBIS would be the dream. Great breakdown Chris!
ND all the way.
You now have IBIS in the Burano that was just announced! lol
4:00 ever hear of this amazing invention called a shoulder mount? Yeah…I hear it’s pretty good.
Hi Chris, I appreciate your videos and your great work. I must agree to disagree on this one though. I rented both for a couple of days and ended up with WAY more amazing shots using the FX6 rather than the FX3. The ease of use of the FX6 makes taking amazing footage so easy. To me the FX6 is a much better tool and is a different league compared to the fx3. Comparing these two cameras may actually be misleading to people who haven’t tried them. My advice for anyone considering either one is to rent both for a couple of days and then decide which one you prefer. One cannot base a purchase decision by watching reviews. Try them then decide. I tried both and ended up buying an FX6. I mostly use my FX6 on a tripod and don’t shot handheld. For that use the FX6 is better than the FX3. If handheld shooting is your thing then the FX3 is probably better. Anyway stop reading comments and watching review and rent both of them to make a better informed decision.
Yup. I had an FS7 and liked the ease of a bigger body. Not sure what to replace it with yet. I shoot corporate and a little wedding jobs.
@@manilamartin1001 the fx6 is an absolute joy to shoot with. It never fails me
Great Video Chris. Sticking with the FX3 for the next year or two.
Wow, I thought I wanted the FX6 for the same reason, but I'd hate it for the same reasons XD thanks for this Chris.
Very informative video and also very interesting. It just makes the FX3 that much more of a camera than I thought it was. I really want one but I’m sticking with my a7S3. Great video!
use the fx6 with an easyrig; miles better than IBIS
100% agree, been testing that out recently. Different beasts though, massive size differences. Each has their pros and cons!
@@chrisbrockhurst It would be great to see you do a video on easyrig and fx6 Chris. Your experience would be valuable.
This is a very helpful video cause I was always in the same mindset like "I want that vnd😱 and cine cameras don't have ibis either" but damn it's so shaky without stabilisation and I don't know why people try to talk everyone out of having ibis. I'm a solo shooter and don't have the equipment and crew to stabilize my heavy cam setup.
That's the same reason why I am struggling getting the blackmagic cameras. They are lovely but these micro jitters 🥲
Why not just using a good tripod? I have the sachler flowtech 75 with an aktiv 8 fluid head for my fx6. It’s easy to carry around and quick to deploy and move around
@@danielstassen813 yeah a really lovely tripod and on my wish list but i kinda like the freedom you get with handheld shooting. Tripod is just a different type. An option would also be a Monopol I think
I couldn't agree with you more. I've shot doc work and commercial content on an a7s3 for the last two years and rented an fx6 to try it out on a job. I saw some really nice things out of it, but for the most part I kept thinking "there's nothing wrong with the setup I was using before." I didn't really feel like I got a lot of the extra bang that the FX6 was supposed to bring. Glad I'm not crazy and you're sort of saying the same thing.
Whatever you said is right for wedding and some kinda run and gun situation.. but if it’s a controlled situation then fx6 is the way.. especially with the inbuilt ND.
Great job on the video Chris! Thanks for making it.
Idk man.. with a lighter rig like the fx3, you get even more shake and jitters. And now you need to get duplicate NDs for each lens, remember each ND, buy an XLR jack which starts balacing upwards, then a potential monitor which also stacks even higher.
Now you're holding enough pieces to create your frankenrig as long as you don't forget any of the detachable parts.
Every tool has their purpose. For weddings an fx6 maybe overkill but for broadcasting it's great.
They both have there place.I do believe however that the FX 6 falls in to the professional camera category.The FX3 is a great B camera wich is very portable.Either way,you can’t go wrong with either one (or both) of them.Having invested in a lot of GM lenses I’m committed to Sony regardless.
This is great. I sold my FS7 last year and will probably sell my c100ii. I still am not sure what to replace everything with.
This is a really really good video! I was day dreaming purchasing the fx6 but now i won’t. Already have the fx3 with this video if i need it just buy another fx3. Thank you!!!
Glad it helped, exactly why I made it!
Aha, I JUST got the FX6! I'm actually leaning towards those Shape/Hawk-Woods batteries that have 2 dtaps on them, 98wH. But I, too, will be buying them used. I sold my A7S III and one of my A7 IVs for the FX6 so pretty good trade. Still got the FX3 and another IV as well. Just don't think I really wanna do photography anymore, at least t weddings. But really, I want to get into the commercial space....just trying to figure out how to get going as I have 0 commercial work in my portfolio.
Shooting fiction, I like to use fx3 with fx6. together. in fiction it is necessary have the camera on for a long time (so camera technicians, designers and assistants can monitoring). There are times when the fx6 is on a tripod while people working on the set. The FX3 should not be on for long periods on because it overheats and little batteries inside. FX6 really is PRO while FX3 look like pro.
Great video Chris, thanks for the clear explanation!
I’m coming from primarily shooting red for years. The fx6 is so convenient by comparison
Wow so many eye openers, gonna save some money and get the FX3, thanks!
As someone who has both, definitely FX6 is better imo. The ONLY thing I like the fx3 for is the accessibility to take it with me everywhere with ease in case I can get some good shots whereas to take the fx6 I have to do some planning and can’t just pull it out to shoot real quick. But still, Fx6 is better overall imo
Fx3 family over here… Still a beginner to it all, but loving it so far. Fx6 is way too much camera for me… size alone I couldn’t do it. 🤣 thanks for another great video!
just a little insight for anyone thinking about it, not a ton of videos out there so had to be made.
Wow no one talks about this! Great video! I'll be interested to see which camera gets the axe from your kit when you get FX30
This is totally subjective to what you shoot. For my needs, the FX6 is the better option (specifically because of the VND). Also, shooting 135 mil handheld is such an odd example cause no sane production would ask for that. You’re on sticks every time. I do have an A7siii and enjoy using it, but it’s always reserved as a B cam or gimbal cam.
Exactly!!
I contacted Sony Cine support about this. They said the codec limitations are an issue with the MXF container. For some reason you can have 1080p 10-bit in Long-GOP, but not 4K 10-bit in Long-GOP. It's quite disappointing that it's lacking a 4K 10-bit Long-GOP option. Add onto that, the internal variable ND doesn't work with CPL filters, which I rely upon a lot. Then there's the audio... the FX3 has 4 channels of audio built into the handle, and an ⅛" on the body... it's frustrating that the FX6 only has 2 inputs via the handle (not including the built in scratch mic). Then, there's the issue that the FX6 cannot be remotely triggered via bluetooth or USB-C like the FX3, so while on a gimbal you have to manually press record on the camera instead of using a button on your gimbal.
I’ve used the fx6 multiple times and man.. frustrating and quirky is an understatement. Chris downplayed it more than I would 😂
haha its a solid camera, just a time and a place.
You could have used a monopod to stabilize those wedding shots that were shaky.
3:48 Sony should do with catalyst what GoPro did with reelsteady which is you can batch stabilise and export footage instead of clip by clip
I'm thinking about getting an FX6 but listening to what people say about the FX3 or FX30. The main problem I found, with that form factor, is the inability to see what is going on. On a sunny day you can't see what is on that little screen. You can't see what is in focus, what the exposure is framing nada. You need a video camera to film video. To make them usable you need to rig them u to look like a cinema camera.
That’s exactly what I experienced when I rented an FX3! The little screen is difficult to see in sunlight. And, the touch focus on such a little screen is frustrating. No issue with the screen of the FX6. I never miss a shot with it. With the fx3 I found myself struggling to get the shot trying to touch focus with my big fingers on a hard to see screen. Rent the FX6 you will likely love it unless you shoot weddings and real estate
Have you tried using your FX6 on a monopod? I shoot all my weddings with a monopod and it's the best way to have a steady stationary shot and still be mobile. I haven't used a cinema body that's about the size of the FX6 on one however, so I'm curious to know if it's feasible on a monopod
I havnt, it would work though. More mobile. I used to use monopods a ton for weddings
I have neither camera nor do i understand many of the settings lol great video though i enjoyed it
Consider a shoulder rig for the fx6!
This has made me think about this more. I already own an fx3 and love it but have wanted an fx6 to feel more like a cinematographer lol
camera tech is getting better and more efficient - the "pro look" of a big rig may not be as big of a deal in 5-10 years.
Fx6 auto ND’s are a game changer. Unless you’re using your fx3 without panning or tilting. You cannot get perfect exposure on the fx3 if you are moving the camera around. The exposure will immediately change when lighting conditions vary.
Use Auto ISO
Very helpful, thank you! I was thinking of an FS6, Will wait for a7s5 to come out in the future with the a7r5 features but better filter and moire and rolling shutter. In the meantime... what to do!!!
I need built in ND and proper XLR ports. If you don't sure why not.
Thanks for your video. Really helpfully!!
Thanks so much for your video! It was just the right amount of useful informations for my kind of work!🙏☮️
This is a great video!! I use the ibis all the time!!!
Agree 100% proud FX3 owner here 🙌🏼
I would love to have both but the fx6 is better of course
If you need to use any telephoto lens for an extended period of time handheld (100-400, 70-200mm) the fx6 on the shoulder is the only option. If you run 24-70mm or 24-105mm or primes most often, and are not doing long takes, then fx3, a7s3, etc are the way to go. Different cameras for different purposes. But still the dream is ibis plus EVND....someday..and probably not too far away.
still wish the darn cable on the LCD screen of the FX6 was longer so I could get the camera further back on my shoulder. Any engineers out there who want to make me a custom extension cable for sony LCDs, hit me up! I do realize I could get a HDMI or hd-sdi monitor, but I don't wan to then have to power that with batteries adding more weight and chargers and hassle.
I love my fx6, it’s not for everyone. It’s a professional camera. You have to educate yourself on it. I’m only upgrading up. The Venice is my next stop. Now if I was a casual run and gun just want to have fun videographer I’ll say get the fx3 but if you are doing professional work then the FX6,FX9 or the Venice is your money maker.
Love it! Great video 🧡
Thanks Lisa!
What chokes me about the FX6 are no HDMI 2.0 and the LCD touch screen is not viewable in daylight.
Hey Chris - A74 or FX30 for wedding videography - they are roughly both the same price here in the UK at this moment in time.
Depends entirely on your lens collection.
Hey Mark, If your focus is videography, than I'd recomend saving up for a A7SIII, or an FX3. The FX30 is fine, but the super 35 sensor might throw off the focal length when paired with full frame glass (Not really an issue, just something to note before filming). The A7IV is great if you plan on shooting both photo and video, but ONE thing to note is that the A7IV has insane rolling shutter and I wouldn't recomend using it for movement shots.
Hope this helps.
I would not recommend the FX6 for solo wedding shooters like yourself. That’s a definite. For light-carry, tight quarters, on and off gimbal, dodging people on the dance floor sorts of video, the FX3 does work fairly well. However, if you’re looking to break into corporate and agency work where you want to look the part and provide a low latency feed to a director or work with a focus puller and have multiple output feeds (on and on) then you’re going to struggle to pull that off with an FX3. And in that case the FX6 is a cost effective choice for building a kit for more complex shoot environments.
I just watched someone give up on the Red Komodo for the FX6. Now it’s giving up the FX6 for the FX3. Someone needs to make one where they just do all their production with an iPhone 😂
Their called influencers 🤣🤣
I was torn between the two because of the form factor of fx6 for handheld. But if the footage is to shaky then what’s the point! Thanks.
ZVE-E1 for the win!
What about warp stabilization in post? Genuinely curious if it could help with the shaky footage
Great Video. But 2 Late. I love my FX6. Ill work on getting a FX3 This Summer coming up.
Fx3 seems more convenient for run and gun. I'd still rather show up on a professional set with an fx6 and an a1 combo.
I shoot with a Ursa g2 shaky footage is not a problem for me
I have one essential question. Do you see the difference in image quality between the two cams regarding the Codecs and file sizes? What do u think is the minimum of file size for a 10bit 422 24p 4k Codec you should have? Is 200mbps enough? And why are the files so huge on the fx6?
Thx for the answers and nice video!
200mbps in what codec is the question. Generally 200mbps is bare minimum you want for UHD 10b. Especially in LOG. If shooting higher frame rate you must multiply the bitrate.
@@marcusthompson666 ah thx
In a cockney accent: it has quirks, like options, features, Built-In usable accessories. The list goes on all those funny quirks
Automatic win for the FX3 since it can fit on a small gimbal. Former RED owner and always having to use sticks or shoulder mounts sucks. Give me a small camera on a gimbal all day. The FX3 with the 24-70 GM, gimbal, and Nici True Color Variable ND is all you need.
This is such an incredibly weird video. It's like somebody buys a race car but they only drive in the city and they complain how the car is not really made to be driven in the city...
Mr chris i bought a fx 3 and a7cr i need to film myself for school i didnt them so im still in the return policy should keep them or get the fx 6 sir
can u pls tell which camera is good for low ligght , dark shoots,fx3 or fx6??????
really informative, thanks!
You're welcome!
7:20 I can fit my FX6 with big 190wh vLock and 28-135mm, and a bunch of extra batteries, monitor etc. in a real camera bag, a boxy one, easily! You need to have real and correct tools for the job. And trust me, that fx6 is SMALL, compared to some setups I've been to in tv series shoots...
Your complaints seems so trivial. I can take the FX6 in your configuration and just put it on the passenger seat next to me if I drive somewhere else. I like both cameras for different reasons. Yes the only downside I see in the FX6 is the shakiness. But then a lot of mirror less camera‘s are also very shaky. Having both cameras, as you seem to do, solves all the problems.