Not likely 2024. Its doing too well. I heard some of the professional FX models will get a refresh however, so maybe that will trickle down to the FX3 next year perhaps. But what do any of us know LOL
The benefit of using an A7S3 was that when I was doing a hybrid shoot and found a good frame, I could snap a photo before recording without any hassle. Being able to send high-resolution stills with identical framing is a great touch for the clients. But if I were to pick a permanent set-up, the FX3 all the way.
Ohhh there is a new FX3 camera for sure…..a few of these FX3 long term reviews videos showing up recently. A perfect time for a mk2. Fingers crossed a new A7Siii mk2 as I need the price to come down on the current one. Great video and collective fingers crossed! Cheers
Right there with you. Have had my fx3 for a few years too. My asks for a new one are simple:). 6k, open gate, 32 bit float audio, better ibis, and dare I say... Improved color science. oh and the menu. lol
This camera absolutely rocks!!! Bought mine 2 years ago for travel vlogs and as you said, it’s perfect to catch ‘those moments’. The footage is insanely good, even when I mess up, a great image can be found in color grading. Feels good in the hands and intuitive to use. Case in point, went from a camcorder to the FX3, I feel Sonys design, both through the user menus and the camera itself made the transition much easier. Of course , there was the university of TH-cam to fill in knowledge gaps. Agree with some of your upgrade suggestions, but will probably hang onto my FX3 for a good while.
Fx3 is still my goal, just have been waiting for the updated version to come so prices drop. Had a few opportunities, but just gotta wait for planets and dollars to align.
Still a dream cam for many. Actually upgraded/downgraded/swapped in (however you want to see this) my Sony A7Siii for the ZV-E1 for more vlog style content and light weight carry and then also got the A7Cii for photography but also as a second body for video, though I would stilll like to maybe pick the FX3 up one day as a main dedicated Video camera, maybe if the new one comes out I'll get that or grab this if the price comes down.
@Chris Brockhurst Referring to 10:44 I'm almost 100% sure the low base native ISO of the FX3 is not 640 but 800. I even just fact checked it with my colleague and googled it. So.. if you had this for years and been using it at 640 low base ISO... Edit: The 640 low base ISO is only for the A7SIII not FX3. I truly hope you havent been doing that all these years
Thanks for the nice video. Fully agree, both the FX3 and FX30 are (still) great cameras. The only groundbreaking development they could really do, is combine a stabilized sensor with their auto-ND filter. That would be awesome! The FX4 and FX40? In that sense I quite like the new Z200 and NX800 camcorders Sony just released, which for the first time bring the auto-ND to cameras of USD 4000 and USD 3300 respectively. Though their sensors are 1", it shows that it would be possible to offer this in a USD 4500 - 5000 full-frame camera.
bought mine 2 months ago for an amazing price of 3700 euro which is like 1k less than usual here in europe. obviously im a little scared about the newer versions and all the quircks its gonna have but honestly it has all i need (for now). i made enough excuses in my life to buy gear i really didnt need. the fx3 now will be my cam for atleast the next 3 years i hope
The first Sony I bought was the A1 (last year as I switched from the Nikon to Sony ecosystem) but that sucker would overheat in 20 minutes in a cool studio 🤬 so I bought the camera either the fan and haven’t had a problem since! Looking buy one more FX3 and relegate the A1 to coverage and stills (esp multipixels) and don’t need anything else for my studio shooting! I keep the audio XLR plugged in with a Sony mic (even though my audio recording is off camera using boom, lavs plugged into a Zoom F8n) for quality scratch sound… and it really gives me a good “atmosphere” audio track to keep the room sound honest. And, yeah, I got it fully rigged up with V-Mount, Ninja and Matte box to sit on my Sachtler or RS2 gimbal or Rhino… full array of GM lenses and I’m “happy as a pig in mud!”
Hey Chris, great content. I find cine ei, especially when to lower the ei and having a preview on the monitor that is not the same as the recorded footage very confusing. You said you use flexible quite a lot and was curious when you use each?
honestly its purely a personal preference thing, if you find one works better for you than the other don't be fooled into thinking you have to do it the other way because everyone else says thats the 'right' way
Common question but it will be good to know your point, I do photo and video and need to update from a73 so I want to buy new gear should I ZV-E1 and A74 or better to but only fx3?
Yup. It’s fire forsure. I can’t even think what a mark 2 will look like. Since already the fx3 comes so close to the Burano. There’s no way a mark 2 could be better than the Burano so what can Sony even do with a mark 2 fx3. Give us built in nds and maybe no crop 120? Maybe triple base iso if that’s even possible lol.
@@chrisbrockhurst I'd like the fx3ii to body to be a tad more boxy with a bigger screen and much brighter... 4k up 120 downsampled off a 6k sensor... off a dual stacked sensor to minimize rolling shutter . open gate up to 60fps ... latest greatest Sony AI auto focus. Better ibis , triple base ISO with the ability to turn off noise Reduction in camera... false color , wave forms and shutter angle ....and last but not least some type of internal raw ..
Dope video as always Chris, quick question though, have you updated to the new firmware? Coz apparently it’s really bad and caused a lot of issues for a lot FX3 and a7siii owners, especially with overheating, Bluetooth and wifi issues, internal sound issues, autofocus glitching. It’s just crazy, coz I love my sony a7siii and fx3 but haven’t updated yet coz of these issues I see guys having after updates.
The sony a7s iii and the fx3 are going to be spoken of in the same terms as the canon 5D mark ii. With regards to how revolutionary and impactful they were to the industry when they were introduced. I wish Sony bypassed the a7s iii amd just made the fx3, because i had no need for the hybrid aspect of the a7s iii. I just shoot videos with it. But with that aside, if you are better off buying a new version of a camera because the used version is only $200 cheaper, you know the market still regards the camera highly.
@@jamesmitchell5 It seems you are correct. Though it's a rather confusing finding as I've just done a search which stated the A7SIII dual base is indeed 640 & 12,800. But FX3 is 800 & 12,800. Despite having the same sensor in essence. Thank you for sharing.
Personally I think adding built-in ND's to this camera would change the form factor too much and would sacrifice something like ibis, which is one of the biggest selling points for me. Sony already has a camera with ibis and built-in ND's... The Burano, which is partially why that camera is huge. You need all of that room in order to have both of those systems. Or just look at the Canon C70. It has built-in ND's with no ibis and terrible/ unusable digital IS and is a lot bigger of a camera than the fx3. I would love to see it and welcome it, but not at the risk of making a bigger camera. Here's my wishlist: The better screen design and resolution from the A7rV. A 6K sensor and a global shutter. An option to record open gate and internal raw, or raw lite, via the Type A cards. Scopes (not just zebras) for monitoring including; false color, or EL-Zone internally. Triple base ISO, like the new Canon C400. All of the new Sony AI Autofocus features and advancements. An MI shoe removable EVF. An option to record externally to an SSD via the USB ports, like what Blackmagic and now the C400 does. Shutter Angle! This absolutely needs to be included right out of the box on launch. We should not have had to wait all these years to get that feature when others make it standard (and technically still waiting for at this point). Indie filmmakers have always embraced the smaller form factor camera for their work, but now that Hollywood is starting to see the benefits (The Creator), I think we are closer than ever to finally getting an updated fx3... Which is why we are finally getting Shutter Angle. This is in part due to (basically) the overnight popularity of this camera after The Creator was released. Everyone wanted to know more about it and why they went with the fx3 That film is what peaked my interest in purchasing one. Really getting to see what's possible in the real world, not just for a TH-cam production, but a fully realized professional feature film with proper funding and studio backing... I truly believe we are going to be seeing a lot more from the fx3 and it has a long life a head of it thanks to The Creator.
Probably. I remember last year, every TH-camr was raving about the Leica Q2. Every budding photographer then goes and buys the Q2, only for Leica to release the Q3 about 2 months later. 😄
Any body fell victim to Sony and bought the A7SIII without knowing the fx3 coming out? When the A6300 was released, months later they released the A6500. I'd buy the FX3 again. Don't be in a rush to buy the latest and greatest. I remember seeing people sell their A7SIII for the FX3.
I used old cameras. I find you really don’t need the best camera just make sure your settings are set correct for the subject your filming. I have canon mirrorless old camera to Nikon d5000 d7000. And others. Canon t5I to cannon 40D and 60 and 70d. Nikons j1. Twice. And all go pros. I find the settings has to be correct.
i am considering the fx3,the only downside is that it would hurt my bank account, but if it wasnt for the fx3 it would be another lens which would do the same, i have the a7iv for stills, it also produces nice video, but i hate that i can either shoot video or take photos and not switch fast between vid and photo, but if i have both i could leave the fx3 kinda rigged in my bag, which is a shimoda x70, so plenty of space and dont have to fiddle around with rigging my a7iv up
Internal ND's will always be worth the drawbacks of the FX6 in choosing it over the FX3. No internal NDs? Not a cinema camera: despite what their marketing team tells you. Period.
Lol, open gate would be such a waste for a camera in this price range. And for Sony to not go up to full 8K, they'll completely fall behind their competitors. These should be obvious.
The short answer is no! No 6k, no open gate, bad ibis worse noise than any other full frame camera up to iso 1200y no photo mode. and its much to expensive for what it is of course. I probably would not even consider it for half the price.
I hate how good this camera is.
See you soon!
I hope there’s a pool table.
And protein shakes
Me too, for not having it… :(
@@chrisbrockhurstwhy are u lying to people the fx3 and fx30 are not cinema cameras… true cinema cameras don’t need updates to make it cinema cameras…
So funny I literally just dropped my 3 year review today, we literally said very similar things haha! Great minds think alike.
Great minds indeed!!
Buying this camera 2 years ago was my best decision I ever made.
Yep
With all these FX3 reviews on youtube lately, I have a good feeling FX3 ii will come before end of the year.
Not likely 2024. Its doing too well. I heard some of the professional FX models will get a refresh however, so maybe that will trickle down to the FX3 next year perhaps.
But what do any of us know LOL
do you still feel that way or do you eat poop
Love the lighting man, good job !
🙏🏼 appreciate that, been learning and trying to get better so that means a lot
Sick background! 🫢
🙏🏼
The benefit of using an A7S3 was that when I was doing a hybrid shoot and found a good frame, I could snap a photo before recording without any hassle. Being able to send high-resolution stills with identical framing is a great touch for the clients. But if I were to pick a permanent set-up, the FX3 all the way.
I thought I’d miss the viewfinder and I did for a whilst but no looking back now
A7s3 and fx3 a/b cameras is such a perfect combo.
Ohhh there is a new FX3 camera for sure…..a few of these FX3 long term reviews videos showing up recently. A perfect time for a mk2. Fingers crossed a new A7Siii mk2 as I need the price to come down on the current one. Great video and collective fingers crossed! Cheers
Right there with you. Have had my fx3 for a few years too. My asks for a new one are simple:). 6k, open gate, 32 bit float audio, better ibis, and dare I say... Improved color science. oh and the menu. lol
This camera absolutely rocks!!! Bought mine 2 years ago for travel vlogs and as you said, it’s perfect to catch ‘those moments’. The footage is insanely good, even when I mess up, a great image can be found in color grading.
Feels good in the hands and intuitive to use. Case in point, went from a camcorder to the FX3, I feel Sonys design, both through the user menus and the camera itself made the transition much easier. Of course , there was the university of TH-cam to fill in knowledge gaps.
Agree with some of your upgrade suggestions, but will probably hang onto my FX3 for a good while.
Yeh no reason to leave this camera unless something special comes out. This satisfies every need for video right now
Hi Chris, if I am not wrong the first native base ISO is 800 and not 640 as you have mentioned in your video @10:45, please confirm, thanks
Correct. 800 is the base
I got an FX30 recently due to budget constraints, but I'm really loving it. Just wonder how better the FX3 could be
As an owner of an fx3 I regret not going fx30 or even zve10
basically a huge ISO difference
What did you use for this talking head segment i love the look !!
Gotta know lens and cam combo!!
I hear you but I’m rocking the Sony A7 IV. If I do get another camera, it will be the FX3.
Fx3 is still my goal, just have been waiting for the updated version to come so prices drop. Had a few opportunities, but just gotta wait for planets and dollars to align.
I’d be curious to know your thoughts on the ZVE1, same image quality, smaller and cheaper, better AF + better photo functionality
sadly no double sd card slot :/
Still a dream cam for many. Actually upgraded/downgraded/swapped in (however you want to see this) my Sony A7Siii for the ZV-E1 for more vlog style content and light weight carry and then also got the A7Cii for photography but also as a second body for video, though I would stilll like to maybe pick the FX3 up one day as a main dedicated Video camera, maybe if the new one comes out I'll get that or grab this if the price comes down.
I'd love them bring a good repositionable and scaleable WFM (Waveform monitor) like Panasonic has had since the GH5.
Great camera. Was a little sad I jumped the gun in buying the a7siii, but then again. Its still worth it 4 years later as well 😅
@Chris Brockhurst Referring to 10:44 I'm almost 100% sure the low base native ISO of the FX3 is not 640 but 800. I even just fact checked it with my colleague and googled it. So.. if you had this for years and been using it at 640 low base ISO...
Edit: The 640 low base ISO is only for the A7SIII not FX3. I truly hope you havent been doing that all these years
It used to be 640 and then a firmware update changed it, just in the habit of still saying it
My most favorite camera ever. Any suggestions of affordable full frame cine lenses without breaking the bank?
There’s tons of options these days. I haven’t tried a lot but Kofi does, I’d suggest watching his channel!
Hey! I’m a kofi!
The Nisi Athena primes are your best option 😉
@@_rhapsodistthey are nice! I reviews those 🥰
Thanks for the nice video. Fully agree, both the FX3 and FX30 are (still) great cameras. The only groundbreaking development they could really do, is combine a stabilized sensor with their auto-ND filter. That would be awesome! The FX4 and FX40?
In that sense I quite like the new Z200 and NX800 camcorders Sony just released, which for the first time bring the auto-ND to cameras of USD 4000 and USD 3300 respectively. Though their sensors are 1", it shows that it would be possible to offer this in a USD 4500 - 5000 full-frame camera.
Fingers crossed we get that ND. I didn’t see that in the new camcorders, gunna go take a look!
@@chrisbrockhurst They have the auto-ND, but only digital stabilisation, no mechanical stabilisation
20:45 open gate and a external viewfinder
bought mine 2 months ago for an amazing price of 3700 euro which is like 1k less than usual here in europe. obviously im a little scared about the newer versions and all the quircks its gonna have but honestly it has all i need (for now). i made enough excuses in my life to buy gear i really didnt need. the fx3 now will be my cam for atleast the next 3 years i hope
OMG that is such a great deal. I am looking here in France and its about 4400... for americans, FYI that includes the sales tax.
The first Sony I bought was the A1 (last year as I switched from the Nikon to Sony ecosystem) but that sucker would overheat in 20 minutes in a cool studio 🤬 so I bought the camera either the fan and haven’t had a problem since!
Looking buy one more FX3 and relegate the A1 to coverage and stills (esp multipixels) and don’t need anything else for my studio shooting!
I keep the audio XLR plugged in with a Sony mic (even though my audio recording is off camera using boom, lavs plugged into a Zoom F8n) for quality scratch sound… and it really gives me a good “atmosphere” audio track to keep the room sound honest.
And, yeah, I got it fully rigged up with V-Mount, Ninja and Matte box to sit on my Sachtler or RS2 gimbal or Rhino… full array of GM lenses and I’m “happy as a pig in mud!”
Hey Chris, great content. I find cine ei, especially when to lower the ei and having a preview on the monitor that is not the same as the recorded footage very confusing. You said you use flexible quite a lot and was curious when you use each?
honestly its purely a personal preference thing, if you find one works better for you than the other don't be fooled into thinking you have to do it the other way because everyone else says thats the 'right' way
Great points! Man this set looks so good on a big 4K Sony TV lol 😂
Common question but it will be good to know your point, I do photo and video and need to update from a73 so I want to buy new gear should I ZV-E1 and A74 or better to but only fx3?
Get the A74, one of the best hybrid cams out there. A couple of friends have it and I used it too. Is a great choice if you do both.
Any comment on the update issues? What firmware are you using?
Hi I am looking to buy a lens for the sony fx3 can you recommend which lens would be best for someone looking to film product videos.
Red Komodo x has a baked in desqueeze to me that was the coolest feature ever lol
Yup. It’s fire forsure. I can’t even think what a mark 2 will look like. Since already the fx3 comes so close to the Burano. There’s no way a mark 2 could be better than the Burano so what can Sony even do with a mark 2 fx3. Give us built in nds and maybe no crop 120? Maybe triple base iso if that’s even possible lol.
Triple base would be wild. I’d love a mid 4K ISO
How is the fx3 vs a7rv?
It's an amazing Camera, the LCD unfortunately sucks . Can't always lug a monitor every where ...
Needs a better screen for sure
@@chrisbrockhurst I'd like the fx3ii to body to be a tad more boxy with a bigger screen and much brighter... 4k up 120 downsampled off a 6k sensor... off a dual stacked sensor to minimize rolling shutter .
open gate up to 60fps ... latest greatest Sony AI auto focus. Better ibis , triple base ISO with the ability to turn off noise Reduction in camera... false color , wave forms and shutter angle ....and last but not least some type of internal raw ..
Do you miss having an EVF on it?
Dope video as always Chris, quick question though, have you updated to the new firmware? Coz apparently it’s really bad and caused a lot of issues for a lot FX3 and a7siii owners, especially with overheating, Bluetooth and wifi issues, internal sound issues, autofocus glitching.
It’s just crazy, coz I love my sony a7siii and fx3 but haven’t updated yet coz of these issues I see guys having after updates.
Interesting. I haven’t updated it for a whilst so maybe I’ll hold off
The sony a7s iii and the fx3 are going to be spoken of in the same terms as the canon 5D mark ii. With regards to how revolutionary and impactful they were to the industry when they were introduced. I wish Sony bypassed the a7s iii amd just made the fx3, because i had no need for the hybrid aspect of the a7s iii. I just shoot videos with it. But with that aside, if you are better off buying a new version of a camera because the used version is only $200 cheaper, you know the market still regards the camera highly.
When is new version coming out
Is it 640 or 800 base ISO I keep hearing both
640 - 12800. Other cameras with more MP have 800 - 3200.
It’s 800.
@@jamesmitchell5 It seems you are correct. Though it's a rather confusing finding as I've just done a search which stated the A7SIII dual base is indeed 640 & 12,800. But FX3 is 800 & 12,800. Despite having the same sensor in essence. Thank you for sharing.
Personally I think adding built-in ND's to this camera would change the form factor too much and would sacrifice something like ibis, which is one of the biggest selling points for me. Sony already has a camera with ibis and built-in ND's... The Burano, which is partially why that camera is huge. You need all of that room in order to have both of those systems. Or just look at the Canon C70. It has built-in ND's with no ibis and terrible/ unusable digital IS and is a lot bigger of a camera than the fx3. I would love to see it and welcome it, but not at the risk of making a bigger camera. Here's my wishlist: The better screen design and resolution from the A7rV. A 6K sensor and a global shutter. An option to record open gate and internal raw, or raw lite, via the Type A cards. Scopes (not just zebras) for monitoring including; false color, or EL-Zone internally. Triple base ISO, like the new Canon C400. All of the new Sony AI Autofocus features and advancements. An MI shoe removable EVF. An option to record externally to an SSD via the USB ports, like what Blackmagic and now the C400 does. Shutter Angle! This absolutely needs to be included right out of the box on launch. We should not have had to wait all these years to get that feature when others make it standard (and technically still waiting for at this point). Indie filmmakers have always embraced the smaller form factor camera for their work, but now that Hollywood is starting to see the benefits (The Creator), I think we are closer than ever to finally getting an updated fx3... Which is why we are finally getting Shutter Angle. This is in part due to (basically) the overnight popularity of this camera after The Creator was released. Everyone wanted to know more about it and why they went with the fx3 That film is what peaked my interest in purchasing one. Really getting to see what's possible in the real world, not just for a TH-cam production, but a fully realized professional feature film with proper funding and studio backing... I truly believe we are going to be seeing a lot more from the fx3 and it has a long life a head of it thanks to The Creator.
if you love a7SIII press like
Its a beast.
Is some else going to tell him or should I that there’s the alpha logo on the front?
I thought the base ISO was 800 and 12800 on the FX3
It is. It used to be 640/12800 back in the older firmware days.
If you can record straight to a ssd would be great
I bought one a month ago, and now I'm selling all my Canon gear.
It’s kinda crazy how Sony just leaps frogs the camera industry in technology
Interested how they gunna make this better
so im guessing fx3 m2 is around the corner, you are the 3rd youtuber that makes the same video 🤔
You know as much as me
Probably. I remember last year, every TH-camr was raving about the Leica Q2. Every budding photographer then goes and buys the Q2, only for Leica to release the Q3 about 2 months later. 😄
The dual native ISO... it seems that TH-camrs don't all agree exactly what those two values are. I'm hearing a few differing opinions on this topic.
Couple of variables at play here. It’s changed with a firmware update and then there’s the Cine EI vs Flexible ISO argument too
I need 6K and 12 bit. That would do it for me.
Any body fell victim to Sony and bought the A7SIII without knowing the fx3 coming out? When the A6300 was released, months later they released the A6500. I'd buy the FX3 again. Don't be in a rush to buy the latest and greatest. I remember seeing people sell their A7SIII for the FX3.
Honestly, the original A7s with an external recorder is still worth it. (Just don't expect usable AF)
FX3 is a best.
FX3 mII should have.... Open Gate and 6K and possibly a fixed (squeaky) handle.
I used old cameras. I find you really don’t need the best camera just make sure your settings are set correct for the subject your filming. I have canon mirrorless old camera to Nikon d5000 d7000. And others. Canon t5I to cannon 40D and 60 and 70d. Nikons j1. Twice. And all go pros. I find the settings has to be correct.
So this must mean the FX3ii is coming 😉
I hope so!
You and @armando in the same groupchat today huh lmao
Ha. I haven’t checked TH-cam in 2 days but ima guess he just dropped the same thing 😂
@@chrisbrockhurstyepp he did
Sony has electronic internal ND tech now, so space constraint isn't an excuse anymore.
i am considering the fx3,the only downside is that it would hurt my bank account, but if it wasnt for the fx3 it would be another lens which would do the same, i have the a7iv for stills, it also produces nice video, but i hate that i can either shoot video or take photos and not switch fast between vid and photo, but if i have both i could leave the fx3 kinda rigged in my bag, which is a shimoda x70, so plenty of space and dont have to fiddle around with rigging my a7iv up
Why all the FX3 vids on the same day?
Internal ND's will always be worth the drawbacks of the FX6 in choosing it over the FX3. No internal NDs? Not a cinema camera: despite what their marketing team tells you. Period.
I want a skin colour recognition tool that tell me I chose the right WB. Too much to ask? LOL
Shoot everything at 5500 and let it look real, that’s my take
Uploaded 26 seconds ago. Had to be first
My man
Sony a7?
Yes, the fx3 will still be worth it 15 years later. No need to say anything about it still being worth it when its still worth it in 15 years
Open gate 😢😢😢
Alright guys…you can stop playing. Literally 20 other creators made a similar video in the past month. We know you’re holding out on the FX4.
😎🤝
this camera has atleast 10 years left in it hands down, aint even watching the video finna like tho
Lol, open gate would be such a waste for a camera in this price range. And for Sony to not go up to full 8K, they'll completely fall behind their competitors. These should be obvious.
Sigma tried... Sony succeeded
no it is not, buy the ZV-E1
Why??
The short answer is no! No 6k, no open gate, bad ibis worse noise than any other full frame camera up to iso 1200y no photo mode. and its much to expensive for what it is of course. I probably would not even consider it for half the price.
Just no.