As you perhaps review more larger and heavier electric vehicles, it would be good to give attention to energy efficiency. It seems that everyone only cares about range, and considers an electric vehicle to be environmentally friendly by its electric merit alone. That's gotta change at some point.
Yup. The actual range on this SUV seems to be about the same as my old Chevy Bolt, despite the battery here being 50% bigger. Then there's the electric Hummer...
EVs rn are only "green" in the marketing material except for the citroen oli, and that's only a concept car Too much nonsense that will only turn into e waste (like the 3000 screens) A joke in repairability hindering their long-term usage, and as you mentioned, the weight
It's because the "best" ev's right now don't even come close to the range of petrol or diesel cars. Which for city people isn't an issue but for people that travel alot or like me have to somtimes drive 400 - 800 km a day, EV's are not an option. range is a killer for all EV's worry about energy efficiency when EV's can do petrol/diesel ranges and the energy doesn't get created with coal power plants
That's only really a concern if you live somewhere that doesn't use lots of renewable energy. In the PNW we mostly use hydropower, so the energy efficiency of a car is not a huge concern.
@@Gay-is-_-trash How in the hell is covering EVs propaganda? Did you know that the first electrically driven vehicles were made around 1832? EVs have technically been around since the first few "cars" ever built.
@Master_Frag Why do you think they failed. And barely anyone knew about them until the woke administrations grabbed them and used them to push the climate change garbage. And they're sponsored by the electric companies
is that hard to make a door handle that doesn't have the potential to lock you out if the car loses power or in case of an accident and the people inside are unable to respond, it would be awesome if someone from the outside was able to open the door even when there's no power to the door
well, why bother? if there was accident and there is someone unconscious trapped inside ev theres a chance that the battery is already burning and no one from the outside will be able to help
@@kahtyman7293 burned down cars per 100k sales: Gas 1529,9 / EV 25,1 - seriously, cut the crap. The inly cars i see burning on the side of the road are normal gas cars, i have to see an EV yet. Yes, EVs are harder to put out IF they burn. But they don’t use a highly flammable liquid that might roast you alive as an aerosol. The firewall of every EV protects you much, MUCH longer than any flimsy fuel-hose full of flammable stuff near your hot exhaust under your car ever can…
YO! I programmed part of the production line that makes the battery packs for GM! So crazy seeing something that I had a hand in show up on this channel. Are you guys going to do any videos on PLC programming? It's a huge field that I don't feel gets covered very much, and it's super cool!
Why would they do a video on plc programming lol, that is almost completely unrelated topic to their channel, and probably nobody on their team knows how to do that (well mabe some lab guys do idk)
The audio in this video recorded inside the car sounds horrible when played at 1.5x speed in Google Chrome, which is very strange, since it sounds great at 1x. I've never noticed that happen on other videos; I wonder what is different.
I wish automakers would move away from piano black plastics. They photograph well, but in real world use so many other finishes would look far better. Also, I find it off that some luxury cars, like this Cadillac, will opt for more cumbersome or less intuitive methods of interacting with the car for the sake of being different. Like the exterior door handles, when a single operation could suffice as is normal with most vehicles, this car require multiple actions to do something as simple as entering the car.
i literally wonder, who thought it would be a good idea to have the "glovebox" attached to an electronic actuator that is accessed though a tough capacitive button that is berried in a menu on a screen. yes, i know that was a chore to read and that's exactly how it probably feels to use.
Kind of funny seeing someone talk about EV makers embracing being a boat.. Caddy’s have been boat since they started, the De ville, Fleetwood, Calais, CTS, CT5, ect all feel very boatish when driving them.
na i work at a GM dealership I promise you that ain't no preproduction issues. they'll ship like that and fix it later with a sps update at your dealer
I am not a fan of those funky light layouts. I find them distracting when encountering such vehicles on the road. It has come so far that on some "high-end" vehicles I have completely overlooked the brake lights and in this case the rear blinkers aren't quite as visible as I'd like them to be.
batteries probably a lower voltage system, power=torque*rpm iirc.. if rpm is low it needs to draw insane current and will melt wires in the motor iirc. probably limited in software or at inverter for this reason. Higher voltage battery allows greater power flow for a given current/conductor/rpm. p=t*rpm is basically Watts=Volts*Current per second. HV requires HV components though, I think Kia or possibly Hyundai are using like 600V packs where this is likely a 200V hence around 2-3x acceleration times? Also electric motors have torque curves just like engines and draw very significant power moving from a standstill/stall condition.
I find it incredibly interesting no one has done a charging speeds video on this car. The Nissan Arya can charge 0 - 90% in less than an hour. The Nissan Arya went on sale AFTER the Lyriq. It's all very suspicious. I suspect the charging speeds are atrocious
The doorhandles and the glovebox are a dealbreaker. Manufacturers like to shake it up a bit by making things worse that have previously worked perfect for DECADES. Door handles do not need to be reinvented. A handle?? on the glovebox??? did not need to be reinvented with fucking software... Ohhhh my god I've seen this pattern with tech for the last 10 years and it's fucking infuriating.
If cars want to take advantage of the Tesla network I wish they would just put the damn charge port so everyone can use a charger with out jacking up the parking situation. How hard is it to just agree on a port location?
Cant wait for the electric powered charging door to fail... Sigh. Theres places where smooth fancy tech is cool, but one of THE MOST USED PLACES should probably be strictly mechanical to reduce failure rate
Would love for these expensive "products" to be reviewed by at least two people just to get two opinions. I remember some car video (I think on LTT main channel) where Alex was really positive about the car, but then Jake came in with his opinion and gave a different perspective on it and didn't rate everything so positively. It's nice to get a different perspective on things, especially for something that costs like $60k.
I really, really hope that GM gets a lot of pushback on their phasing out of Car Play and Android Auto, because those are huge features for a lot of folks, and it's really rare for OEM to get software right
Also, I've never truly understood why they would spend so much money on Sat Nav systems, custom apps etc. when someone can just plug in their phone. Surely the right way to go is phasing IN full phone integration? Almost everyone has a decent smartphone that can run Android Auto, and if for some reason they don't, add in an optional extra for a tablet or basic android device that can just permanently sit plugged in to handle features like Maps and Spotify etc.
@@rbae This right here is probably the biggest one. Some bean counter piped up and said, "Hey, we can save $12.50 per vehicle if we stop including Car Play and Android Auto!" (Not actual prices)
Because in cars "luxury" is shit you don't need and usually end up costing money to fix down the line or that you end up forgetting about and never use anyway
You think you guys could start adding practical, identifiable things to your reviews of the cargo spaces? Like how LTT uses the banana for scale, how about a typical 55" or 65" TV in the box, maybe an ATX tower, or a 210lbs 34" HD CRT? Y'know, things that we can relate to.
ปีที่แล้ว +14
In the past, Alex used corpses as a measuring unit, but he stopped using it for some reason.
I dunno man, but you don't seem to be a metric person. How many liters volume the trunk has should be enough for you to do a rough comparison to another car. And by looking at the shape then a rough estimation on what you could fit in it. Maybe an effective w,h,l measurement would be good.
Attention all car manufacturers. Just because you make an electric car, does not mean you have to go out of your way to re-invent the wheel with everything else. I just want to see a normal car with a good electric powertrain. I don't want these weird, awkward door handles, give me a normal interior with physical buttons, give me a normal glovebox. No one wants any of the manufacturers proprietary infotainment system, just leave it to Google and Apple. TLDR: Take a normal car like a Toyota Rav4 and replace the engine with a big elecrtic motor.
Alex liked this car so much that after the initial disclaimer of the car having only 1 downside (that was the janky charging section lid), the list continued to expand one item at a time.
One of my favorite things about EVs is how the front end can be such an open canvas for designers to play with. This Cadillac is actually pretty stylish!
@@ArensLive He seems to be some kind of anti-EV activist, shouting about 'propaganda' without putting forward any real thought or argument. Just another shill shilling shillings.
I’m a mechanic at a Cadillac dealer. We delivered our first one to a customer a few months ago. Nothing is intuitive to use. Plastic trim panels were loose fitting and rattled. It was already towed back three times with drive motor issues, radio and dash electronic issues etc. GM had us replace the drive motor and was towed back three days later. GM doesn’t know what’s wrong and keeps sending out engineers to assist with diagnosis to no avail. Never buy the first generation of a new vehicle.
It's an EV made in China. What did you expect. I suggest you tell your boss to let you do the work, and you should stop these from getting to customers
After a week with the vehicle it becomes intuitive if you have only ever been in one for two minutes (lousy pdi times and no test drive) how can you ever think you would be in a position to judge this vehicle?
@@racepnd For something to be intuitive, you shouldn't need much if any time to know how to use it. Intuitive design means anyone should know how to use it quickly without prior contact or use. For example a kettle, which often has easily identifiable features and functions (handle/lid/power/etc)
It would be nice if you were able to review the smaller and lighter european EVs with 400km+ range. It's laughable that this car has a 100kWh battery, but can barely eek out more range than my own car with a 64kwh battery.
I miss my buttons, levers, switches and beep-boops. You could always find them and didn't have to worry about activating bunch of stuff because of a touchscreen.
I'm surprised more people haven't gotten into a wreck because they were just trying to turn down the ac down while having to go through 15 different submenus with a laggy and unresponsive touchscreen
@@squidwardo7074 I don't think most people can yet afford these cars; these are considered "premium" features. Wait until they trickle down to cheaper cars and become more widespread.
I don't even know a lot about electric cars, but I'm still just flabbergasted by how much they seem to over-complicate basic things. Like, why do you have to press the door handles like buttons, then grab onto another random bit of plastic (that isn't there on the back doors)? Why is the charging port power-open instead of spring-loaded? Why is there a confusing arbitrary mix of physical and capacitive buttons on the steering wheel? And the glovebox is just astonishing. They just seem to want to make everything electric, even if it really shouldn't be.
It’s weird because none of these things have anything to do with the source of power for the vehicle. And yet for some reason they insist on making more things that are unintuitive, unsafe, and more breakable.
You could tell how much Alex loved that thing because he was so chill there at the end. He was truly enjoying himself and honestly that warms my heart.
I work at a Cadillac dealership in Sudbury, Ontario. We've delivered one Lyric so far and had to replace the charge port door already because someone forced it not knowing how to use it. I didn't get the chance to play with all the features but I will agree, it is one hell of a car. We are expecting two more in the next few weeks. I can't wait to drive the Hummer we have coming in the next week or two.
I really hate how cars like this are removing simple reliable handles/latches and replacing them with motorized contraptions that will inevitably break. Such a stupid design to open the door.
Why does every company that makes an electric car thinks they have to reinvite the door handle. Stop with the full tv screen for gauges and use real buttons.
My dad just got one a few months ago. Hadn’t bought an American car in 40 years. He loves it. Dealership experience sort of C- but GM knocked it out of the park on product. There are some kinks they are working out. OTA was supposed to be working but still had to bring to dealer to get the 360 camera activated. But overall he loves it.
It kinda miffs me that the door buttons are in the shape of door handles, are at the spot where you would expect door handles to be, but they... aren't the handles? They're just buttons and the actual handles are somewhere else?
Would love to see a video about the BMW i4, especially the non-M50 variants like the edrive40 or edrive35. There are so many M50 reviews out there, while the edrive is the variant most people will go for.
I actually work along the supply chain for the lyriq. Due to this, I got to see one of these in person a few weeks ago. It is truly a great looking car, just way too big for me.
For 60k and those specs, I think this might be the only electric car I would consider if I had the money to spend on one. It's competitively priced with ICE luxury SUVs and offers a ton for the money.
@@Gay-is-_-trash The car is not made in China. The vehicle is made in Spring Hill, TN, and the batteries are made in Lordstown, Ohio. In the earliest stage of production a few cars had batteries imported but from Korea (LG), not China. While GM is making Lyriqs in China, those are for the Chinese market and use a totally different battery solution from the one sold in the US. The quality issues in the US are stemming from a completely ground-up new platform, and are predominately software issues they are slowly patching.
the amount of times i heard "...the only thing i have a problem with..." followed by multiple unrelated examples of "...it's really stupid" 🙄 make up your mind, Alex...
So many bits and pieces like this giant buttons on the doors that will just break or become un-waterproof and let water anywhere inside in a few years... pure madness what manufacturers send into the world nowadays. Love your car reviews! Please more and propably with some older cars? Can recomend to do it on a mk4 Golf :D Greets from germany :P
@@Elektroreisen good luck opening your door with the wet and completely gunked electronics inside this buttons in future then. I had to change some doorlocks a few times now on my mk4 Golf and it was always a chip/sensor inside that gave up. There is allways a wire or a connector that gets moist and what not, i can't imagine how they made sure this buttons will be secure in 10-20 years. I don't want to say that it should be all mechanical, but i think (from the looks of how they are moving i did not see it close up and never touched them) this mashy buttons on the outside will not last very long and the failures would be awesome and a full list off. Maybe your door will just open randomly, not open at all or your heated seats will be always on... You know what i mean :D And yes, i think a car should last longer then 20 years, the bigger it is the longer it should last or at least you should get the option to get new tech inside if for example the engines gives up or your seats or what ever. This short-term selling selling and selling is messing up with so much...
while one pedal driving may be a "feature" for some, EVERYONE else on the road hates it. Climb a hill behind someone with one pedal driving while using any automatic or manual car. It's lazy and creates bad driving habits (like promoting auto-braking, just be a better driver)
I’m old fashioned. For as much as I’m amazed at the technology in cars I think touch screen controls is just stupid. It’s next best to impossible to accurately find, and operate, touch controls whilst driving. Give me a lot of proper buttons instead. With proper buttons you can feel, then memorise, buttons functions and locations making far easier to find, and push, whilst on the move. I not a big fan of digital dashboards either, I prefer the “old fashioned” analog dials.
confusing review. the car is "awesome", but the doors are terrible, back seats lack headroom and comfort, power delivery not optimised, it's only rwd, it handles poorly in corners, infotainment problems lurking in the near future, poorly engineered charging port that looks flimsy etc. but it looks like a batmobile, awesome!!! not a serious car review, unfortunately.
I can never tell if it's just the camera or that they drive/position themselves in certain ways just for these shoots, but they always drive ON the line or seemingly randomly drift over yellow lines in these videos and it always has me concerned; like buddy, can you please stay in your lane?? I assume everyone is paying full attention and the roads are clear and it's all intended to give exciting/informative footage but it always bugs me lol
So hold up. GM just straight up copied Ford's door design of the plunger inside the door, the winglet on the front doors, grabby inside of the rear doors, but made it worse by moving the "button" as far from the grabby parts as possible?
All I can see is redundant motorised parts.. bet they will rake In the bills with dealership servicing. Because you know this car will have problems after a year max😅 they build them to break 🤓
This is so unbelievably ugly I can't even. Also, you should show how responsive one pedal driving is for other drivers (does it give break lights when you decelerate)
Getting rid of apple CarPlay and android auto is an extreme deal breaker I don’t want to learn a crappy car UI and have to login to music accounts I just want everything to work and all my apps to work right out of the box . Chevy trying to reinvent to wheel is not it at all
As a viewer, some serious pain points are casually glossed over like the fact the rear headroom is so terrible you hit your head, but is dismissed as "as long as you don't lean back." As in, sit in the seat? Or that the headrest speakers blasting your head were so uncomfortable you had to turn it off, etc. I feel like the tone is a little too enthusiastic for the major flaws that were found, and to be a serious reviewer of cars I feel you should be as critical of this as you would a computer product.
This is why I have a Volt... It's a normal car with an electric drivetrain.... Wish GM had made a full size sadan with the voltec drivetrain.. or even the Colorado..
When google plans to remove carplay then i wouldnt consider any android automotive car, Siri has its flaws but in the language i use it it is way better than the google assistent, google isnt even capable of understanding my request for Crab Rave
I understand you might've had to be a little nicer than usual since its a pre production car, but do you seriously trust this thing droving itself on the highway more than tesla using autopilot? like you said it yourself the forward collision isnt even working lol
i thought cars have been around long enough for people to have already figured out the design fundamentals and at the very least get the basics right, and then there's stuff like this where the door handle and charging port cover are unnecessarily over-engineered or having some kind of utterly moronic design.
As an improvement to your car reviews. Use the same frequency response equipment to record the noise floor of the vehicle while driving. (perhaps pick a stretch of road for car to car comparisons for similarity) Because the noise floor of the vehicle in motion adds greatly to the sound system quality, and also the general ride comfort.
My problem with the GM getting rid of carplay and Android Auto is for the Android automotive you presumably need to buy an internet plan through them and OnStar plans are overpriced And the cell phone company they use has terrible signal where I live.
True, on star plans are outrageously overpriced, however, the "unlimited" data plan in socal is $15 a month. The data plan is actually quite reasonable.
@@igeekone Yes, but the connected vehicle plan includes a bunch of extra stuff beyond just unlimited data. GM has said that all you would need is the unlimited data plan at $15 per month because the rest (google maps and assistant) would be included for 8 years.
@@andrewhaan1156 $15 a month is still a lot of money in my opinion it should be more like $5 a month (the same price my cell phone carrier charges for IOT devices).
About that battery plant, I’m glad it is on hold! They are building on an aquifer and are refusing to have a plan for contamination. There’s a strong push by local developers and the electrical union but residents of the area are worried.
![CAMPปลิ้น | EP.82[1/2] แก๊ง 3 สาวเพื่อนซี้บุก CAMPปลิ้นครั้งนี้ห้ามเสียอาการ](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/_6WUjXHe1TM/mqdefault.jpg)
As you perhaps review more larger and heavier electric vehicles, it would be good to give attention to energy efficiency. It seems that everyone only cares about range, and considers an electric vehicle to be environmentally friendly by its electric merit alone. That's gotta change at some point.
Educated viewpoint right here^
Yup. The actual range on this SUV seems to be about the same as my old Chevy Bolt, despite the battery here being 50% bigger. Then there's the electric Hummer...
EVs rn are only "green" in the marketing material except for the citroen oli, and that's only a concept car
Too much nonsense that will only turn into e waste (like the 3000 screens)
A joke in repairability hindering their long-term usage, and as you mentioned, the weight
It's because the "best" ev's right now don't even come close to the range of petrol or diesel cars. Which for city people isn't an issue but for people that travel alot or like me have to somtimes drive 400 - 800 km a day, EV's are not an option. range is a killer for all EV's
worry about energy efficiency when EV's can do petrol/diesel ranges and the energy doesn't get created with coal power plants
That's only really a concern if you live somewhere that doesn't use lots of renewable energy. In the PNW we mostly use hydropower, so the energy efficiency of a car is not a huge concern.
Need that dedicated car channel now
I would sub to an Alex and Jake car channel so fast
NO MORE PROPAGANDA! Stop covering EVs!!
@@Gay-is-_-trash Sir, this is a Wendy's
@@Gay-is-_-trash How in the hell is covering EVs propaganda?
Did you know that the first electrically driven vehicles were made around 1832? EVs have technically been around since the first few "cars" ever built.
@Master_Frag Why do you think they failed. And barely anyone knew about them until the woke administrations grabbed them and used them to push the climate change garbage. And they're sponsored by the electric companies
is that hard to make a door handle that doesn't have the potential to lock you out if the car loses power or in case of an accident and the people inside are unable to respond, it would be awesome if someone from the outside was able to open the door even when there's no power to the door
well, why bother? if there was accident and there is someone unconscious trapped inside ev theres a chance that the battery is already burning and no one from the outside will be able to help
@@kahtyman7293 what the actual fuck is this take
I presume the doors automatically pop out in the event of an accident, Tesla door handles do for example.
@@kahtyman7293 burned down cars per 100k sales: Gas 1529,9 / EV 25,1 - seriously, cut the crap. The inly cars i see burning on the side of the road are normal gas cars, i have to see an EV yet. Yes, EVs are harder to put out IF they burn. But they don’t use a highly flammable liquid that might roast you alive as an aerosol. The firewall of every EV protects you much, MUCH longer than any flimsy fuel-hose full of flammable stuff near your hot exhaust under your car ever can…
The woke mind virus is just that idiodic
YO! I programmed part of the production line that makes the battery packs for GM! So crazy seeing something that I had a hand in show up on this channel. Are you guys going to do any videos on PLC programming? It's a huge field that I don't feel gets covered very much, and it's super cool!
What plc family did you use?
@@petrosrz8990 Allen-Bradley
So you're the person to call when these things start blowing up. I'm glad you incriminated yourself, criminal. You're a murderer.
@@solace669 I had a research project using a plc. Bless you for being able to handle structured text. That was the bane of my existence
Why would they do a video on plc programming lol, that is almost completely unrelated topic to their channel, and probably nobody on their team knows how to do that (well mabe some lab guys do idk)
I hate how car companies are trying to reinvent the door handle. They’re getting too complicated for no reason.
We need an LMG Alex and Jake car review channel!!!!
".. but at the same time" drinking game! :D
The audio in this video recorded inside the car sounds horrible when played at 1.5x speed in Google Chrome, which is very strange, since it sounds great at 1x. I've never noticed that happen on other videos; I wonder what is different.
car go zoom. also I actually loves this type of video so much and Jake is goat
Like how he says: The charger is the only janky thing and then starts ranting about … the rest.
I can't help but see E.T. in those headrests at 7:01
@1:09 What sucks is these sorts of doors DO NOT work in freezing weather.
One of my customers at work just got a Lyriq, its absolutely gorgeous!
"A bit more than a snuggle" hahahahaha. I'm using that now.
I wish automakers would move away from piano black plastics. They photograph well, but in real world use so many other finishes would look far better. Also, I find it off that some luxury cars, like this Cadillac, will opt for more cumbersome or less intuitive methods of interacting with the car for the sake of being different. Like the exterior door handles, when a single operation could suffice as is normal with most vehicles, this car require multiple actions to do something as simple as entering the car.
Can u guys also review ICE cars too? Would like to see your thoughts on hot hatches like the Civiv Type R and GR Corolla/Yaris since u drive a Golf
15:44 Damn, those are some giant fingerprint smudges
i literally wonder, who thought it would be a good idea to have the "glovebox" attached to an electronic actuator that is accessed though a tough capacitive button that is berried in a menu on a screen. yes, i know that was a chore to read and that's exactly how it probably feels to use.
4:50 At least it probably keeps the cops out
With that sponsor segue, I think Alex has been sending too much time with Linus making janky engineering experiments. 😂😂😂
Kind of funny seeing someone talk about EV makers embracing being a boat.. Caddy’s have been boat since they started, the De ville, Fleetwood, Calais, CTS, CT5, ect all feel very boatish when driving them.
na i work at a GM dealership I promise you that ain't no preproduction issues. they'll ship like that and fix it later with a sps update at your dealer
Great video Alex & Co.
Cadillac Lyric summary: it's weird but you'll get used to it
I am not a fan of those funky light layouts. I find them distracting when encountering such vehicles on the road. It has come so far that on some "high-end" vehicles I have completely overlooked the brake lights and in this case the rear blinkers aren't quite as visible as I'd like them to be.
batteries probably a lower voltage system, power=torque*rpm iirc.. if rpm is low it needs to draw insane current and will melt wires in the motor iirc. probably limited in software or at inverter for this reason. Higher voltage battery allows greater power flow for a given current/conductor/rpm. p=t*rpm is basically Watts=Volts*Current per second. HV requires HV components though, I think Kia or possibly Hyundai are using like 600V packs where this is likely a 200V hence around 2-3x acceleration times? Also electric motors have torque curves just like engines and draw very significant power moving from a standstill/stall condition.
0:42 say hello to “most replayed”
You should really do a moose test for handling, be scientific and accurate in these reviews
GM getting rid of android auto and apple carplay is the dumbest thing ever
I WANT ONE!!!! Super cool car.
I find it incredibly interesting no one has done a charging speeds video on this car. The Nissan Arya can charge 0 - 90% in less than an hour. The Nissan Arya went on sale AFTER the Lyriq. It's all very suspicious. I suspect the charging speeds are atrocious
Jump in the Cadillac girl let’s put some miles on it
@tommyinnit
caac
@@Mr.Pufferfish. shhhhh
@@WillUlt1mate11 ok
Someone likes to drive on the middle line...
The doorhandles and the glovebox are a dealbreaker. Manufacturers like to shake it up a bit by making things worse that have previously worked perfect for DECADES. Door handles do not need to be reinvented. A handle?? on the glovebox??? did not need to be reinvented with fucking software... Ohhhh my god I've seen this pattern with tech for the last 10 years and it's fucking infuriating.
Aptera, you need to get an Aptera. It's likely a 21st-century Delorean, but if it isn't...
Tell me about the Quirks and Features.
There's an annoying rumble in the sound when you're driving. I didn't notice anything similar with other EVs you've reviewed.
Volume in freedom units is ft^3
If cars want to take advantage of the Tesla network I wish they would just put the damn charge port so everyone can use a charger with out jacking up the parking situation. How hard is it to just agree on a port location?
when is labs gonna get a dyno?
Cant wait for the electric powered charging door to fail... Sigh. Theres places where smooth fancy tech is cool, but one of THE MOST USED PLACES should probably be strictly mechanical to reduce failure rate
2:28 tho
Would love for these expensive "products" to be reviewed by at least two people just to get two opinions. I remember some car video (I think on LTT main channel) where Alex was really positive about the car, but then Jake came in with his opinion and gave a different perspective on it and didn't rate everything so positively. It's nice to get a different perspective on things, especially for something that costs like $60k.
I think the video was with Volvo SUV. It was one of the best car review and nothing came close since then
@@marekklucka4407 Hmm could be. I would have to go and check it to be sure, but I liked that review because it wasn't biased by a single person.
If someone is dropping that much on a car I hope they are looking at more then one channel for information.
60k is "cheap' now days sadly.
yes!
I really, really hope that GM gets a lot of pushback on their phasing out of Car Play and Android Auto, because those are huge features for a lot of folks, and it's really rare for OEM to get software right
Also, I've never truly understood why they would spend so much money on Sat Nav systems, custom apps etc. when someone can just plug in their phone. Surely the right way to go is phasing IN full phone integration? Almost everyone has a decent smartphone that can run Android Auto, and if for some reason they don't, add in an optional extra for a tablet or basic android device that can just permanently sit plugged in to handle features like Maps and Spotify etc.
@@AFriskyPigeon they just don’t want to have to rely on outside companies/ be responsible for them.
@@djplonghead5403that and the licensing costs are expensive in the long run
Yeah extreme deal breaker apple CarPlay and android auto are just better and more convenient than any crappy car UI
@@rbae This right here is probably the biggest one. Some bean counter piped up and said, "Hey, we can save $12.50 per vehicle if we stop including Car Play and Android Auto!" (Not actual prices)
I would gladly swap 5% of the cars battery to get normal door handles. Why do all EVs feel like they need to reinvent the wheel?
it helps with aerodynamics thus extending range
@@nicholaswilks580 Yes, I'd still prefer normal door handles.
Because in cars "luxury" is shit you don't need and usually end up costing money to fix down the line or that you end up forgetting about and never use anyway
You think you guys could start adding practical, identifiable things to your reviews of the cargo spaces? Like how LTT uses the banana for scale, how about a typical 55" or 65" TV in the box, maybe an ATX tower, or a 210lbs 34" HD CRT? Y'know, things that we can relate to.
In the past, Alex used corpses as a measuring unit, but he stopped using it for some reason.
@ Probably too much variation...
Ikea blue bag full of shopping?
I dunno man, but you don't seem to be a metric person. How many liters volume the trunk has should be enough for you to do a rough comparison to another car. And by looking at the shape then a rough estimation on what you could fit in it.
Maybe an effective w,h,l measurement would be good.
yeah that would be great, cause liters is good, but having the visual and the actual dimensions would be better, wouldn't it?
Attention all car manufacturers. Just because you make an electric car, does not mean you have to go out of your way to re-invent the wheel with everything else. I just want to see a normal car with a good electric powertrain. I don't want these weird, awkward door handles, give me a normal interior with physical buttons, give me a normal glovebox. No one wants any of the manufacturers proprietary infotainment system, just leave it to Google and Apple.
TLDR: Take a normal car like a Toyota Rav4 and replace the engine with a big elecrtic motor.
Alex liked this car so much that after the initial disclaimer of the car having only 1 downside (that was the janky charging section lid), the list continued to expand one item at a time.
One of my favorite things about EVs is how the front end can be such an open canvas for designers to play with. This Cadillac is actually pretty stylish!
BMW: we put our trash, big grill even on an electric car
STOP IT with the PROPAGANDA
@@Gay-is-_-trashwhat are you on about?
@@ArensLive He seems to be some kind of anti-EV activist, shouting about 'propaganda' without putting forward any real thought or argument. Just another shill shilling shillings.
I’m a mechanic at a Cadillac dealer. We delivered our first one to a customer a few months ago. Nothing is intuitive to use. Plastic trim panels were loose fitting and rattled. It was already towed back three times with drive motor issues, radio and dash electronic issues etc. GM had us replace the drive motor and was towed back three days later. GM doesn’t know what’s wrong and keeps sending out engineers to assist with diagnosis to no avail. Never buy the first generation of a new vehicle.
It's an EV made in China. What did you expect. I suggest you tell your boss to let you do the work, and you should stop these from getting to customers
After a week with the vehicle it becomes intuitive if you have only ever been in one for two minutes (lousy pdi times and no test drive) how can you ever think you would be in a position to judge this vehicle?
@@Gay-is-_-trashno need to show everyone your stupidity - for the American market, Lyriq is made in the USA.
Good old GM, always one step forward and two steps back. Never change GM, never change 👏 👏 👏
@@racepnd For something to be intuitive, you shouldn't need much if any time to know how to use it. Intuitive design means anyone should know how to use it quickly without prior contact or use. For example a kettle, which often has easily identifiable features and functions (handle/lid/power/etc)
It would be nice if you were able to review the smaller and lighter european EVs with 400km+ range. It's laughable that this car has a 100kWh battery, but can barely eek out more range than my own car with a 64kwh battery.
I imagine the issue is finding the euro EVs in the greater vancouver area
Use your brain. How can they get access to Euro exclusive Evs in Vancouver? Think idiot.
Yeah but how heavy and large are they?
I miss my buttons, levers, switches and beep-boops. You could always find them and didn't have to worry about activating bunch of stuff because of a touchscreen.
Ok boomer.
@@mavfan1 lame
@@mavfan1nah, buttons are infinitely better for basic features
I'm surprised more people haven't gotten into a wreck because they were just trying to turn down the ac down while having to go through 15 different submenus with a laggy and unresponsive touchscreen
@@squidwardo7074 I don't think most people can yet afford these cars; these are considered "premium" features. Wait until they trickle down to cheaper cars and become more widespread.
I don't even know a lot about electric cars, but I'm still just flabbergasted by how much they seem to over-complicate basic things. Like, why do you have to press the door handles like buttons, then grab onto another random bit of plastic (that isn't there on the back doors)? Why is the charging port power-open instead of spring-loaded? Why is there a confusing arbitrary mix of physical and capacitive buttons on the steering wheel? And the glovebox is just astonishing. They just seem to want to make everything electric, even if it really shouldn't be.
It’s weird because none of these things have anything to do with the source of power for the vehicle. And yet for some reason they insist on making more things that are unintuitive, unsafe, and more breakable.
You could tell how much Alex loved that thing because he was so chill there at the end. He was truly enjoying himself and honestly that warms my heart.
I work at a Cadillac dealership in Sudbury, Ontario. We've delivered one Lyric so far and had to replace the charge port door already because someone forced it not knowing how to use it. I didn't get the chance to play with all the features but I will agree, it is one hell of a car. We are expecting two more in the next few weeks.
I can't wait to drive the Hummer we have coming in the next week or two.
I'll NEVER understand why EVERY SINGLE one of these new EVs just seemingly need to reinvent the door handle.
I really hate how cars like this are removing simple reliable handles/latches and replacing them with motorized contraptions that will inevitably break. Such a stupid design to open the door.
i dont understand cutting out Carplay, thats like 50% of customers gone because they dont have that option
I would never buy a new car without CarPlay. What a stupid fucking decision. GM, you’re dumb.
I'm thinking it may have to do with GM collecting your data instead of it going to Apples servers. Then they sell your data to 3rd parties for money
Why does every company that makes an electric car thinks they have to reinvite the door handle. Stop with the full tv screen for gauges and use real buttons.
My dad just got one a few months ago. Hadn’t bought an American car in 40 years. He loves it. Dealership experience sort of C- but GM knocked it out of the park on product. There are some kinks they are working out. OTA was supposed to be working but still had to bring to dealer to get the 360 camera activated. But overall he loves it.
It kinda miffs me that the door buttons are in the shape of door handles, are at the spot where you would expect door handles to be, but they... aren't the handles? They're just buttons and the actual handles are somewhere else?
Yeah, that's kind of annoying
Would love to see a video about the BMW i4, especially the non-M50 variants like the edrive40 or edrive35. There are so many M50 reviews out there, while the edrive is the variant most people will go for.
Same. Especially with the recent announcement of the i4 xDrive40.
I thought this came out a while ago? I was trying to convince my dad to get it instead of the Model Y.
Ok subhuman. Stop with the woke propaganda. We're tired of you
@@Gay-is-_-trashseek therapy
I thought so too!!
Quit with the LGBT mind virus, and maybe people might take you seriously 😒
I actually work along the supply chain for the lyriq. Due to this, I got to see one of these in person a few weeks ago. It is truly a great looking car, just way too big for me.
Did anybody actually ask for these “new” door handles?
For 60k and those specs, I think this might be the only electric car I would consider if I had the money to spend on one. It's competitively priced with ICE luxury SUVs and offers a ton for the money.
The batteries are going to catch on fire in less than a year. And they're made in China, so crappy Quality
@@Gay-is-_-trash made in china means crappy quality?
@@Gay-is-_-trash The car is not made in China. The vehicle is made in Spring Hill, TN, and the batteries are made in Lordstown, Ohio. In the earliest stage of production a few cars had batteries imported but from Korea (LG), not China. While GM is making Lyriqs in China, those are for the Chinese market and use a totally different battery solution from the one sold in the US. The quality issues in the US are stemming from a completely ground-up new platform, and are predominately software issues they are slowly patching.
@E T H E A R N O S Yeah where have you been the past 20 years
@@JoshuaDavenport Batteries are not made in ohio. Ohio is too smart to let people make time bombs in their state
the amount of times i heard "...the only thing i have a problem with..." followed by multiple unrelated examples of "...it's really stupid" 🙄 make up your mind, Alex...
What happens if the door is covered with ice? I doubt that plunger is capable of breaking through a sheet of ice.
So many bits and pieces like this giant buttons on the doors that will just break or become un-waterproof and let water anywhere inside in a few years... pure madness what manufacturers send into the world nowadays.
Love your car reviews! Please more and propably with some older cars? Can recomend to do it on a mk4 Golf :D
Greets from germany :P
I'm pretty sure they almost exclusively review new electric vehicles, but I'd love for another channel to cover it
100%...been saying for a few years now that all these cars are going to be worthless, broken hunks of e-waste in a few years.
@@rmp5s if they don't explode before then😂😊
Doors aren't waterproof and haven't been waterproof in the past. So the buttons don't even need to be watertight
@@Elektroreisen good luck opening your door with the wet and completely gunked electronics inside this buttons in future then. I had to change some doorlocks a few times now on my mk4 Golf and it was always a chip/sensor inside that gave up. There is allways a wire or a connector that gets moist and what not, i can't imagine how they made sure this buttons will be secure in 10-20 years. I don't want to say that it should be all mechanical, but i think (from the looks of how they are moving i did not see it close up and never touched them) this mashy buttons on the outside will not last very long and the failures would be awesome and a full list off. Maybe your door will just open randomly, not open at all or your heated seats will be always on... You know what i mean :D
And yes, i think a car should last longer then 20 years, the bigger it is the longer it should last or at least you should get the option to get new tech inside if for example the engines gives up or your seats or what ever. This short-term selling selling and selling is messing up with so much...
This car is Sick Keep making this Kind of stuff great work on these different Videos
Finally holy shit after 2 fucking years they released it. Long enough wait lmao
How do you f*ck up the glove box and opening the doors?
while one pedal driving may be a "feature" for some, EVERYONE else on the road hates it. Climb a hill behind someone with one pedal driving while using any automatic or manual car. It's lazy and creates bad driving habits (like promoting auto-braking, just be a better driver)
I’m old fashioned. For as much as I’m amazed at the technology in cars I think touch screen controls is just stupid.
It’s next best to impossible to accurately find, and operate, touch controls whilst driving.
Give me a lot of proper buttons instead.
With proper buttons you can feel, then memorise, buttons functions and locations making far easier to find, and push, whilst on the move.
I not a big fan of digital dashboards either, I prefer the “old fashioned” analog dials.
confusing review. the car is "awesome", but the doors are terrible, back seats lack headroom and comfort, power delivery not optimised, it's only rwd, it handles poorly in corners, infotainment problems lurking in the near future, poorly engineered charging port that looks flimsy etc. but it looks like a batmobile, awesome!!!
not a serious car review, unfortunately.
I just wish somebody would make an EV without all the bullshit "luxury" features (and knobs instead of a fucking touchscreen) and price it decently
I can never tell if it's just the camera or that they drive/position themselves in certain ways just for these shoots, but they always drive ON the line or seemingly randomly drift over yellow lines in these videos and it always has me concerned; like buddy, can you please stay in your lane?? I assume everyone is paying full attention and the roads are clear and it's all intended to give exciting/informative footage but it always bugs me lol
So hold up. GM just straight up copied Ford's door design of the plunger inside the door, the winglet on the front doors, grabby inside of the rear doors, but made it worse by moving the "button" as far from the grabby parts as possible?
All I can see is redundant motorised parts.. bet they will rake In the bills with dealership servicing. Because you know this car will have problems after a year max😅 they build them to break 🤓
This is so unbelievably ugly I can't even.
Also, you should show how responsive one pedal driving is for other drivers (does it give break lights when you decelerate)
Capacitive buttons on the steering wheel?!.. WHYYY!!
2 door handles? That’s GM junk right there
Getting rid of apple CarPlay and android auto is an extreme deal breaker I don’t want to learn a crappy car UI and have to login to music accounts I just want everything to work and all my apps to work right out of the box . Chevy trying to reinvent to wheel is not it at all
As a viewer, some serious pain points are casually glossed over like the fact the rear headroom is so terrible you hit your head, but is dismissed as "as long as you don't lean back." As in, sit in the seat? Or that the headrest speakers blasting your head were so uncomfortable you had to turn it off, etc. I feel like the tone is a little too enthusiastic for the major flaws that were found, and to be a serious reviewer of cars I feel you should be as critical of this as you would a computer product.
cant wait for the charger door to be STUCK all the FREAKINg TIME
This is why I have a Volt... It's a normal car with an electric drivetrain.... Wish GM had made a full size sadan with the voltec drivetrain.. or even the Colorado..
When google plans to remove carplay then i wouldnt consider any android automotive car, Siri has its flaws but in the language i use it it is way better than the google assistent, google isnt even capable of understanding my request for Crab Rave
I understand you might've had to be a little nicer than usual since its a pre production car, but do you seriously trust this thing droving itself on the highway more than tesla using autopilot? like you said it yourself the forward collision isnt even working lol
LINUS, hire CAR GUY to host these video. this is painful. Lil bro sounds like he takes a bus to work. lol
Don't know why but this car looks a lot like a daddy toyota hyryder/ suzuki grand vitara
Indians here agree? 🇮🇳
i thought cars have been around long enough for people to have already figured out the design fundamentals and at the very least get the basics right, and then there's stuff like this where the door handle and charging port cover are unnecessarily over-engineered or having some kind of utterly moronic design.
As an improvement to your car reviews. Use the same frequency response equipment to record the noise floor of the vehicle while driving. (perhaps pick a stretch of road for car to car comparisons for similarity)
Because the noise floor of the vehicle in motion adds greatly to the sound system quality, and also the general ride comfort.
My problem with the GM getting rid of carplay and Android Auto is for the Android automotive you presumably need to buy an internet plan through them and OnStar plans are overpriced
And the cell phone company they use has terrible signal where I live.
True, on star plans are outrageously overpriced, however, the "unlimited" data plan in socal is $15 a month. The data plan is actually quite reasonable.
@@BubbaBearsFriend The cheapest Onstar plan that allows use of "In-Vehicle Apps," is the Connected Vehicle Plan for $24.90/mo or $299.90/yr.
@@igeekone Yes, but the connected vehicle plan includes a bunch of extra stuff beyond just unlimited data. GM has said that all you would need is the unlimited data plan at $15 per month because the rest (google maps and assistant) would be included for 8 years.
@@andrewhaan1156 $15 a month is still a lot of money in my opinion it should be more like $5 a month (the same price my cell phone carrier charges for IOT devices).
@@matthewshields True, Tesla's pricing is $10 per month, so I would prefer they match that to be competitive.
How is a car that is that big, still so shit in the rear seats? And the ISOfix having that big lump and hard plastic covers?
I can't wait for when one of these goes up in the basement of a high rise residential building at 2am. Better still a carpark full of them.
What would happen if you lived somewhere and that church door was ice up because sometimes that happens with my fuel filidor
I'm pretty sure those are called wheels Alex, not rims. Maybe I'm wrong, someone here will correct me.
this guy doesnt really have any standards, right? everything is amazing. maybe there is keyboard flex?
I want a review of the VW ID.4 (or ID.3 or ID.5 or ID.Buzz). Would be great!
About that battery plant, I’m glad it is on hold! They are building on an aquifer and are refusing to have a plan for contamination. There’s a strong push by local developers and the electrical union but residents of the area are worried.