Releasing Objects
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 มี.ค. 2016
- I explain where objects appear when they are released. There are two main ways to release an object: to throw it and to drop it. When Mario throws an object, it appears at the HOLP + 32 units in the direction Mario's facing. When Mario drops an object, it appears at the HOLP laterally but at Mario's current height. In certain circumstances, an object released out of bounds will appear at Mario's current position due to a failsafe mechanism.
Note: After you watch this video, you should also watch this video: • How Holding Objects Re... . - เกม
Slowed down Chuckya screams are pure nightmares
4:04 Us Heave-Hos aren't good at much, but we are pretty dang skilled at unionizing. That failsafe was a deal-killer. That's also why we're the only ones that have it. You ever see a Skeeter trying to lobby for something? The answer's no, 'cause they always just end up stinging someone.
+Heave-Ho But Chuckyas also have the failsafe, in both throws and drops.
+kkkllleee “mexamexo8” Oops, you're right! Sorry, wasn't thinking; I meant to say Skeeters.
Heave-Ho heave me up to Chuckya
Btw that was a joke comment
SuperNuclearBoss1337 Games, Vlogs and ShoutOuts no shit
"Checkmate non believers!"
Romaji I was getting really annoyed until I saw that in context
1:18
Mario: The man that can't stop working out.
Heave Ho was probably built on behavior copied from another enemy that *can* be grabbed. So rather than being more work to put in a failsafe, it becomes more work to take it out
+Turtles Tortellini Considering both Heave Ho and Chuckya can grab Mario, have the same failsafe properties, and appear in the same level (incidentally Heave Ho's debut, while Chuckya may have been made for TTM first)... That actually makes perfect sense!
That seems like a good hypothesis. It would make sense if heave ho was copied and modified from chuckya's code, and chuckya has the failsafe. Heave ho and chuckya both have an "anchor object" to assist with grabbing/heaving Mario, so it would make sense for the programmers to do that to avoid having to redo all the code.
Yeah, but they forgot to take out the grab feature on Heave-Ho for water grabs. So at least there is a use for the failsafe, glitches or no.
This video absolutely blow my mind in no way any other has in that YOU CAN THROW OBJECTS IN WATER?!!?!
Also, that shape of a halo with a pole going through the middle is nice. The lines centered on all HOLPs denoting where objects can be placed.
That's not allowed.
ComputerCat
Watis?
@@jongyon7192p overanalyzing SM64
I absolutely love your "educational" videos. They are so interesting and clear up anything that I may have misunderstood earlier (like that 32 unit circle I didn't know of). Thanks for making this ^.^ It is definitely appreciated.
Yes, often I use very particular knowledge to accomplish things in videos, and viewers will be confused. Then they'll ask in the comments, and I'll have to reiterate a simplified response. But my making educational videos, I can just link the video as my response, which is very easy for me and provides a very complete response.
Now that it’s been brought to attention, I enjoy Mario's animation where he gently puts down MIPS, Ukiki, and the baby penguin. It’s nice.
As much fun as it is to find a trillion ways to not press the A button, have you ever tried to break any other N64 game?
nope
Is there an a button challenge for donkey knog 64? Maybe if you start on that, the reason of why the game doesn't run without the expansion pack can finally be solved.
DK64 requires the Expansion Pak due to a memory leak that the developers simply couldn't fix otherwise. The Expansion Pak didn't actually fix the problem, it just gave the game enough memory that running out takes ten hours instead of ten minutes, which while I haven't tried myself I read can be sped up significantly by abusing savestates in emulators, including on the Virtual Console.
Super i think oot, mm and goldeneye are already broken enough and these 4 games are the most speedrunned
Just wanted to say thanks for all of the videos, I'm not sure why I find them so entertaining but I watch them frequently. They're a really nice diversion.
I like the word implementation
4:04 maybe because they might fall out of the map when they spawn in or being pushed out with the movable box
but it's not being released
2:28 No i'm not familiar with bobomb dopping.
+ComputerCat That's a typo on Keok's part.
The Bob-omb Doping scandal.
@@MrGOOMBAGUY Keok? who is Keok?
For those who don't know what HOLP is (which I didn't before looking it up):
"HOLP is an abbreviation for Held Object's Last Position. The HOLP is a location or set of coordinates that is modified when Mario grabs any object (except a Crazed Crate) and is constantly rewritten to the position of Mario's hands. The HOLP stops updating when Mario is not holding anything. When a new object is picked up the HOLP works exactly the same with it as the previous object except it tracks the position of the new object. When an object is thrown it spawns at the HOLP. It faces the same direction Mario is facing and is given velocity towards that direction. If the object is dropped by Mario it spawns at the height of Mario's feet and at the lateral position of the HOLP. It also faces the direction of Mario, but it has no velocity. When Mario is holding his cap in his hand, however, the HOLP does not update. This means that objects can be manipulated to spawn where Mario last held an object without holding his cap in his hand. The default HOLP value is (0,0,0), which is a location near the center of the course. The HOLP is a global variable and is the same in all four save files, even if they are switched. The HOLP does not reset even when Mario switches courses or the player switches save files. The only way to reset the HOLP is if the player resets or turns off the system."
The above text is from the Super Mario Wiki and is available under a Creative Commons license. Attribution must be provided through a list of authors or a link back to the original article (which I'm not sure TH-cam will allow me to put in a comment). The article can be found under the title "List_of_Super_Mario_64_glitches".
5:14 NUT
ZePequeno15 take this M
+Alex Attack
Take this Σ.
2:28 "Checkmate, nonbelievers!" 🤣
Also, I'm not sure if I'm familiar with how Bob-ombs are *dopped.*
4:05 I guess they originally planed Heave Ho to be picked up and thrown or dropped, since it has functions to be picked up.
If I didn't believe you 100%, I'd say these extremely specific exceptions and coincidences in programming are justification for what only SEEMS to be overly complicated exploitation of glitches in the real game, but is actually just the utilization of a mod.
But I know you're being truthful, and hella entertaining, too! Keep up the good work, mining the heck out of this game, pannenkoek!
i dunno why but i always love the part where mario places the box in slow motion
I wonder though, is it possible that Mario can hold an object the same way the he holds bowser?
3:30 "mechansim"
:/
It's okay.
2:28 "dopped" too
"I'm learning"
-Ralph
Pannen, if you're in college, what's your major?
+dewero2 sm64; 120 star ABC is his honours thesis
+Zm4rf With a minor in wizardry, because some of these videos are pure frikkin magic.
The parallel universes branch of quantum physics. His minor is proving "henry" haters and nonbelievers.
computer science
UncommentatedPannen I'm not surprised
I didn't realize the failsafe was so complicated. I had the HOLP set in-bounds, but when I crouched to release a Bob-Omb clone, it snapped to my position. Idk what was going on, though.
If you dropped it, then the bob-omb would have appeared at the HOLP laterally but at your current height. So if the position at the HOLP laterally but at your current height is underground, then it would be out of bounds, and trigger the failsafe.
pannenkeok2012 Oh, yeah, that makes sense. I was under the bridge and the HOLP was by the Bob-Ombs across the bridge.
2:12 I am absolutely disgusted and horrified by this information
Thank you
That final chuckya scream is nightmarish
Amazing.
How did you bring King Bob-Omb down there at 2:53
And at 3:00 I didn't even know when Mario dies the Chunkya will still be in his hands, I thought the robot would automatically fall out of Mario's hands and die automatically when Mario dies
How to make objects light: th-cam.com/video/oZ12n5mdAJA/w-d-xo.html
+pannenkeok2012 I bet my life that Heave Ho, was originally intended to be grab-able.
+pannenkeok2012 Do you have a video on light chuckya? I am curious if light chuckya has the failsafe too.
kkkllleee Chunkya becomes light whenever Mario walks into the water while holding him
How to make chuckya light: th-cam.com/video/oZ12n5mdAJA/w-d-xo.html. Chuckya's failsafe mechanics are summarized in the table in the video
It's time to dust off those old disco shoes and get your butt on that dancefloor! The night is young, it's time to do the twist, everyone get down. Turn the volume ^^^^^^ strap yourselves in for a big bad boogie.
2:22 Don't worry.
I always believe in what you say.
I would have *loved* it if you could throw Bowser remotely.
pannenkeok, is sm64 your favorite game off all time?
one thing I dislike about pannekoek is that he sometimes assumes you've seen his videos in order. like how he explained cloning in an old video called "art of cloning", and I didn't know he ever explained it until I saw his "science of cloning" video. Or how here he just assumes you've seen whatever video he has that talks about what a "HOLP" is
mistermavin96 That's a feature of this secondary channel and is intentional. For a better explanation read the FAQ in the about section of this channel.
So a HOLP is where the object will be before flying away from Mario?
4:04 Perhaps at the point they were programmed in, Heave-Hos were meant to be carried around to solve launching puzzles. If I recall correctly, SM64 was the first Mario game with walljumping so that feature would have been made obsolete with the implementation of walljumps.
4:17 How in the world did you figure out the Bowser triggers the failsafe? THERE'S a demo video if one was ever needed!
+mathphysicsnerd nah the more likely scenario is what another commenter suggested: the heave-ho was coded in part by copying code from another enemy. this is extremely common in game and software development; after all, coding something from scratch is a lot more work than copying something that already works and tweaking it.
***** 'Twas merely suggesting it as a possibility.
+mathphysicsnerd Hmm, Bowser doesn't even start his trajectory at the holp... maybe he placed a corkbox at the edge of the level and threw him out of bounds by standing right at the invisible wall?
My hypothesis is that heave ho was copied and modified from chuckya's code, and chuckya has the failsafe, so it was copied over. Heave ho and chuckya both have an "anchor object" to assist with grabbing/heaving Mario, so it would make sense for the programmers to not redo all the code. And I figured out the Bowser failsafe using hacks.
I know how to light-throw a heavy object, but how do you heavy-throw a light object?
+pannenkeok2012 Is it possible to throw bowser out of bounds,or at least really far away from platform using buffered hitstun?
Bowser always appears in the normal place, not a the HOLP
Mood: Chuckya dying in slow motion
I simply cannot believe this. Water throw?? There is a **move** in **Super Mario 64** that **I** didn't know about???
I'm curious, how do the WDW water switches work? Are they indavidually programmed to change the water level to a specific height, or to whatever heght they are? Would cloning and utelizing them have any worthwhile application?
It's whatever height they are.
Ah ok. So then that leads to my next question if there is application in utilizing them as clones?
the water heights they cause are hard coded, and do not depend on the height of the crystal tap
i'm drunk as shit and this is the most confusing video i've ever seen
0:44 what's the music?
4:06 can it be useful for getting to some platforms x0
noice bob-omb battlefield r3m1x
5:16 HHHHOOOOOOWWWW could this happen to me, I've made my mistakes
Name of music remix?
Hey, smg4 used that same remix in one of his vids.
2:22 "how bob-ombs are dopped"
Listen to 5:14 at 0.5 speed.
What is a HOLP?
You also forgot a way to drop an object - to get stuck in ground.
How do you get the clone heavy?
+ComputerCat I think you can't. they are always light, if I remember correctly. (but who knows, pannenkoek finds all kinds of unexpected things)
+Lugmillord You can. If you grab a fake Chuckya (grabbing him as you throw him and he hits the ground), then the clone has the heavy properties that grabbing Chuckya has.
Jeremy Zorek
It does? I was thinking about that afterwards. Man, too much information to keep track of. xD
***** Yeah, it does. Try it if you can ;)
Grab a fake chuckya (which is heavy), then clone a bob-omb.
2:22 dopped
How did you heavy throw the Bob-Omb?
L33T H4X0R5
Gameshark code?
grafimir Gmr despawn a Bob-Omb, grab a Chuckya, drop it off a ledge, get right next to where it'll land, press B 5 or 6 frames before it hits the ground, do some fancy, object slot-manipulating cr*p to hold the first vacant slot, walk far enough for the Bob-Omb to respawn, done.
Don't worry, there are things that are a lot more complicated than this. (also save states and frame advance will make the process a lot less painful)
No, i am _not_ familiar with how bob-ombs are _dopped_.
what's a HOLP
2:28 dopped?
dopped
Can you do a video about mario being out of bounds?
+Jaimentalli He dies.
BrettMKW no shit. But i mean i want to see an explanation video on why and how it happens
+Jaimentalli And why it happens if he goes too high in the course
***** It's a failsafe mechanism, when he's out of bounds the game just kills him because it's not designed to handle him being out of bounds. I doubt there's too much more to it than that. The easiest place to do this is on top of the castle, walk as far into the back right corner as you can, then hang from the ledge and pull yourself up and if you did it right he'll be killed.
+BrettMKW why'd he lose his cap though?
what exactly are HOLPs used for?
wait for the next video
+Christos Karamanos This stuff
+pannenkeok2012 did somebody say hype
+SoulCloset HYPE !!!!!!!!!!!!
+Christos Karamanos Everything
0:16 Throw or not
2:40
surprisingly not*
good vid btw
lincoln pepper "which surprisingly not is a type of drop"
Either that or I'm missing something
spoiler alert: this video is made with science.... and geometry..
nintentroll
2:28 dopped
2:28 dopped?