Mercedes EQC 400 | What you MUST KNOW about ELECTRIC
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 มิ.ย. 2024
- The Mercedes-Benz EQC is the first EQ branded all Electric car which features an 80kWh battery and boasts an up to 259 mile range (241 - 255 miles on WLTP). It can charge in 40 mins through DC Rapid Charging in public but charging is completed overnight at home through a dedicated Wallbox. It's also compatible with Mercedes me Charge: • What is Mercedes me Ch...
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How on earth have you not got more subscribers ! Your videos are brilliant ! They are informative and non-bias. Keep up the fantastic work. You have answered so many questions that I had about my CLA AMG Premium Plus and more
Thanks Latin Flavorz! 🤓
I’ll try and keep them coming! Ooo a CLA Premium Plus! Very nice 👌🏼
Great job, with this video, Nick! Fantastic intro, BIG improvement on the B-roll in this video (I saw the transition in aspect ratio, nicely done). Amazing job with these videos, this actually made me think about getting an EQC instead of an A250e (which I highly doubt it’ll happen because unfortunately it’s simply too expensive for me). Thank you so much and keep it going!
Thanks Bulaxa! It took me a little longer but certainly worth it!
A special car deserved a special intro!
Ooo I’d love an A250e 👌🏼
Elegant, knowledgeable and delivered with an absolute ease. Pleasure to listen and watch. Highly recommended. Setting benchmark for many others to follow.
Thanks Dr Tanas! Glad you enjoyed it!
Love the lighting effect at the front of the EQC during the intro Nick - very stylish and futuristic 👌Thanks for another great video - I agree about the expensive prices of these vehicles at the moment though.
Thanks Mark! Well a special car deserves a special intro! Glad you liked it! It took ages to film 😅
Love your videos, just discovered your channel...subscribed! You are doing a great job and you take time replying to the questions, that to me sets you apart from all the TH-cam car reviewers! Keep up the good work!👌
Awww thanks Karen!
Thank you, that means a lot. I try and reply to all comments where I can (nice ones though 😉)
I will! Trying to balance reviews of cars with tutorials so have a couple of unique models over the next couple of weeks. I’m feeling another Tips & Tricks is due soon though! We’ll see 😎
Your videos are very good. I will take delivery of a new EQC beginning of May. Feel like I already know the car thanks to your different videos.
Ah awesome thanks Thomas! Very nice! I’d love an EQC myself, they’re rapidly fast and so responsive! Hope you managed to drive one at some point
Factual and informative. I reviewed this video to determine the merits of purchasing the EQC in the summer of 2021. It provided me with all the information I required to make a decision. Well presented.
Awesome thank you Zayn!
Nick once again another great little video well done keep them coming
Thanks Martin! 👊🏼
Will do! Recording the next one tomorrow!
Very Troneesque opening there Nick😉😆 Actually I've learned something new from this video re: charging... so thanks for that mate👍😊
No worries Darren! Ah glad you liked the intro! It took ages to film to get the right shots!
@@npoleary loved the intro!!... kudos for getting a movie style opening for it...
Informative video Nick. Waiting on mine still... they look to have at least 6 months lead time for factory orders
Yes they might well be...in my eyes worth the wait! Such an incredible car 👌🏼
Very interesting. Thank you Nick! 😃👍🏼 - Here in Berlin there are far too few charging stations, which are also often unusable or occupied by CarSharing vehicles. For that reasons, even a plug-in hybrid is not an alternative. 🤷🏻♂️
It will change in years to come! It’s early days, most people who buy them at the moment will charge at home but public charging is growing at a massive pace.
Here in the UK the infrastructure is growing day by day!
From Australia: thanks for explaining the cables and kw in detail...
No problem! 😊
Great video Nick, thank you
Thanks snuggles03! 👊🏼
Got mine late August and this is literally a god send - many thanks
No worries Gary! Slightly jealous, not going to lie!
Mastered all of the buttons yet? 🤓
Nick O'Leary Just about getting there. They way it will change lanes on the motorway for you is slightly surreal!
Ah do you have the Driving Assistance Package? Sounds like you do!
Did you see my in depth guide of that one? It’s such as awesome package!
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Nick O'Leary yeah I ordered the driving assistance pack. It’s the AMG Premium model. My detailer has described the wheels as possibly the worst ever to ceramic coat because of all the spokes 😂
Yeah there are a lot of spokes on those wheels!
Ah very nice!
Best car I’ve owned, and to answer the question it’s easy to live with UK charging network is crap/ unreliable but you adjust love it 👌
Hi Phil, yes I know...I’ll be doing a video on that in the future! Have you checked out Mercedes me Charge that is launching slowly behind the scenes?
Nick O'Leary I have Nick it’s more the amount of chargers that don’t work / have errors on them
Mmm, they’ll get better though over time!
Well at least I hope so! 😅
Very informative thanks
Awesome Glad you liked it!
Great video Nick. I got my EQC four weeks ago and love it.
For anyone on this thread, does anyone know if the car has headlight washers and if so how do they work? Silly I know but this is my first ever Mercedes. I graduated from 21 years of VW :)
Hey Jay, thank you! Glad you enjoyed the video!
How you finding the EQC? I’d personally love one! 👌🏼
When it comes to headlight washers, these are typically only found on cars with Bi-Xenon headlights (in Mercedes anyway)
Now that LED lights have overtaken in light technology, they are very bright so you actually don’t need them anymore.
You forget to mention with range (long journeys) that the number of rapid chargers being installed is vastly fewer in scale to the number of EVs behind produced each year. Currently this is not workable solution. Why would I want to wait 40 min or a few hours for others to finish charging when I can charge my petrol car in 2 minutes?
Another thing that no one mentions, is that car insurance on electric vehicles is more expensive.
Hi Nick
, great videos. As a new EQC customer they’ve been invaluable. Can I ask a question please? The other day I unlocked my car after finishing work but the horizontal light beam didn’t light up as it always does when I unlock my car. It operates fine when I’m driving the car. Any tips as to why or how to resolve it it? Many thanks
Thanks MHM_UK, glad you love the videos!
Ah the light bar, I’ve noticed that before, I think it only comes on with certain ambient light (if it’s dark etc)
Another excellent video Nick. I totally agree that electric is the future particularly with the range which can be achieved and the cost savings on filling up. But electric cars are too pricey at the minute, I'm sure they will come down in time though.
By the way, got my new c class today its absolutely fantastic!
Thanks Sohail! Awesome! Mastered all the buttons yet? 👀
@@npoleary not all of them but I have got the basics down like setting a sat nav destination, setting up android auto and of course the ambient lighting. Got a bit more figuring out to do.
I'm still smiling from ear to ear with it.
Thanks again for the EQC rewiew. How do you add via points in the Mercedes me app. So you can plan a more complete journey? See how many stops you need for charing.
Hi rgry,
Just put your destination in, it'll work it out for you!
As an example, if I put in Fort William, Scotland (other end of the UK for me) it worked out the three stops I needed to complete the journey.
All done in the app and can even be done in the car on MBUX! Very clever!
@@npoleary sorry for not being able to be more precise. If you would visit one place but you take a "detour" to a certain shop on the trip. How to you enter more than one destination in the app?
Ah okay, as far as I’m aware it just point a to point b on the app but you can add intermediate destinations in on the car.
Used , these are looking better by the day ! Ensure a rock solid warranty
Brought one in February - pre reg and only 42k as they have dropped in value like a stone. Absolutely delighted so far
@davidg9057 awesome! How are you getting on with it? 🤓
@@npoleary so far great. Previously in a BMW X3 30D so the lack of noise has taken some getting used to but refinement is excellent and having real buttons instead of just a touch screen is a factor for me. BTW have found your channel very useful - best of luck
@davidg9057 awesome!
Ah thank you! 🙏
Hi Nick,
Please note that the charging power is expressed in kW and not in kWh!
kWh is the amount of charge. The capacity of a battery is expressed in kWh. How fast it’s being charged is expressed in kW.
For example: when you charge a battery with 7,2 kW power during 2 hours, the amount of charge transfers to the battery is 2h x 7,2kW = 14,4 kWh.
I know sorry Daniel! On my next video I’ve rectified this! 😅
By the way, I like your videos very much. Interesting and to the point.
Thanks Daniel! 👊🏼
Nice and great review, thank you. I don't believe that future belongs to electric cars, of course it depends on your life style, as you mentioned, but the price is not reasonable. And finally what is the most expensive and important thing in our life - it is time, and it takes to much. Maybe it will change.
Hi Mindaugas Zemaitis,
Electric will be here in the UK in the year 2040...no car manufacturer will be able to sell a new petrol / diesel engine. It's a long way off yet and as you said it will change. The charge time might get faster but it is certainly useable for most people at the moment!
Stunning car
I know! It's on my Xmas list! 🤞🏼
Nice video
Thanks Newgeneration Nexus!
Hi Nick, Can you find out why Mercedes dont supply the motor cover under the bonnet on the EQC anymore. All the vids on the tube showed the presenters lifting this to show the motor etc below but seems now they dont come with this cover anymore. as mine and someone else`s did`nt.
Regards.
Ian
Hey Ian, that’s strange? I mean I haven’t heard of anything changing with that, have you spoken to your local dealership? See if they have heard anything?
"You'll wake up every day with it fully charged" - My understanding was that you're only supposed to charge it to 80% usually, and 100% when you need the extra range. Something about preserving battery life. I could easily be wrong though, I'm still a noob when it comes to EV's. Either way, good vid, thanks for making it.
True but a100% is not a true 100% as the EQC car software keeps 5-10% back at either end of the charge so a 100% charge is only ever really 90% in reality!
Hi Monsta Munch,
Yes you’re absolutely right, you can set this to do this in the car under the EQ menu. Showrooms like Mercedes-Benz of Poole do this to ensure maximum life expectancy of the batteries mainly because they don’t know when the car will be test driven next.
For you and me charging to 100% over night is fine, but leaving it at 100% for extended periods of time wouldn’t do it that much good so it would a good idea to store the battery with a charge state less than this.
I hope that answers your question!
@@npoleary I have the EQC and the manual recommands to set charge state max to 80% for daily use, and only use 100% when you are traveling far. Great video, but you mix up kW and kWh here and there.
@@woodfordp Phil, respectfully this is incorrect. I double checked this after my post and Mercedes clearly state that you're better off just charging it to 80% as Nick has clarified. Yes, the software prevents the battery from being run out to 0% (it keeps 10%) but there is no limit at the other end.
In any case it seems like a great car and a great step forward for Mercedes.
Monsta Munch nope I’m not the additional buffer should minimize risk of problems and extend the durability of a battery at a cost of reduced range. The terminology that you’ve heard is correct too
Hey, i have the 2020 model eqc. And its the biggest mistake i ever made. For starters. The promised range was at 250 Miles. When i turnes on Ac it went down to 170 miles. And thats not during winter. During the winter season, it charged maximum to 92 miles💀 i thought it might be some problems with the battery so i took it to service at mercedes and they said there's no problem. The employee there said its a generally bad car and you should sell it....
92 miles? I would seriously get that checked
I have driven a Mercedes EQC, range is quoted up to around 250 miles but yes for EV’s that don’t have heat pumps, range will take a hit in the winter but it shouldn’t be that low.
I would estimate that it would be around 160 - 170 under winter driving in most scenarios.
Honest opinion - for a family car, only drive around town with a few 180mile round trips per year, Audi E-Tron or Merc EQC?
Sadly not driven the Audi E-Tron, but can confirm I can fit 5 of me in an EQC comfortably.
Both I imagine would drive very similarly as they’re a similar size 🤓
Did you see the EQ that caught fire in a ladies garage? It was a loaner vehicle while she was getting her vehicle maintenance. It wasn’t charging or anything.
I have been driving an ev for four years. I would never go back to an ice car.
Awesome! Which one do you drive? 🤓
@@npoleary I currently drive a Kia Soul first edition 64kw. In summer I can achieve 315 miles. Now looking to change to either a Nissan Ariya or Merc EQC 😄👍
Ah nice! 👌🏼
Most important factor for range is ambient temperature. Much as I like this car (I'm almost certaintly going to buy one), there is no way you will get 200 miles range in winter. I took a Tesla 3 for 3 days in February (3-6 deg C) and got about 140 miles from a full charge.
No you won't Richard you're absolutely right, if you're like me I'd have the heating on! 🥶
So yes this will use more battery, the pre entry climate control would assist with this to get the car at a warm temp prior to leaving (just like a Tesla!)
@@npoleary It's not just the heating, Nick. The batteries are just less efficient when cold. Thanks for the video - very informative!
Oh I know! Trying to keep the videos as simple as possible especially when talking about hybrids and electric. It’s new technology for some people and some don’t understand how the range can be affected by things like ambient weather etc. But yes you’re absolutely right, range will take a hit even if you don’t use heating.
I know you said you have driven a Tesla, did you take an EQC for a spin? 🤓
@@npoleary I'm still waiting for one to become available for a 2-day test, but I might just order it anyway. I have a BMW 5 at the moment and borrowed a Tesla for 3 days earlier this year. I liked it a lot but it's just not as refined as the BMW's & Mercs. Above 40 MPH, the BMW 5 (with a diesel engine) is simply quieter than the Tesla, which is not particularly well-insulated. Range isn't important to me and I expect to use chargers away from home very rarely. Also, I appreciate the Tesla's minimalist design, but it's a tad Spartan, if I'm honest. Given all that, I think the Merc is the better choice for me.
Hi Nick. Someone posted on the tube that Mercedes were giving the EQC an upgrade with immediate effect for its charging but didnt give much detail, wondering if you could find anything out.
I already know! 😉
I was considering a video on it and I still might for the future but it’s basically an upgrade to the “On-Board Charger” for the Fast Charging also known as the AC Charging System.
The AC charging system is now rated at 11 kW (previously 7kW) and the DC (rapid charging) rated at 110 kW like normal. So it basically means charging when using that connector will be slightly quicker and will shave a few hours off.
Remember though, if you are considering one, there are new cars in stock in the UK pre built. This change will only affect cars going through the factory from Jan onwards.
@@npoleary Thanks for that Nick. My Prem Plus is being built now for an end of December delivery and was wondering when the poster said from immediate effect mine would be built in. Does that mean you would need an 11kW home charger instead of the normal 7.2 one.
I believe you’ll only ever be able to utilise 7kW in the home unless you spent a lot of money upgrading electrics on the whole house. I could be wrong though as my knowledge on that is very limited. Most charging companies I’ve seen only offer 7kW because of this.
It’s been increased so that if you stumble across a charge point that only has the type 2 connector, it will be quicker.
Hope that helps!
80 KWh usable Nick... gross is 85 KWh in order to compare it to the "others"... which state gross not net/usable battery capacity :-)
Yup you’re absolutely right Stian! It is just 5kWh less for the usable side!
I leave air con on all the time and sport mode!
Haha very responsive in that mode!
I hear different opinion about how much one should charge the batteries. Some say if you stop at 80% they will last a lot longer if you always charge to 100% every time. Is there some truth in that?
Hi rgry,
Yes there is, in a nutshell the less time any Lithium-ion spends at 100% the longer it lasts. Going to 100% is fine for daily use / every two days because obviously it’s there to be used but if you plan on going on holiday for a week or two, it’s best not to leave the battery plugged in at 100%.
In this instance I would leave the battery below 80% and have it charged when I get back.
Mr. Nick, does it charge the battery by moving? Or only with its own charger?
Sadly no, you do need to plug electric cars in to charge them back up.
There is however brake recuperation which captures a little bit of the power used and puts it back into the battery 🤓
@@npoleary well, I suggest them to find a better way to recharge. Thanks a lot
Hi Nick, hope you’re well. Quick question if you don’t mind can you reply me either tonight or tomorrow,the reason I am asking you because Thursday I’m taking my car to local Mercedes dealer. As I have asked you before about wireless charging in my car not working. The thing is my son has iphone 11 and his phone charging in the car. But I have iPhone 7plus how come my phone not charging in the car. Is it iPhone 7plus not compatible with that wireless charging. Please let me know if you don’t mind thanks 🙏
Hi Jag,
Only iPhone 8’s and newer charge on wireless charging pads. iPhone 8 came out in 2017 which was the first iPhone which featured wireless charging so no unfortunately iPhone 7’s are not compatible as they were launched the year before.
Good morning Nick, thank you so much for your help. God bless you
No worries! I do believe there are cases you can buy that will give your iPhone wireless charging. You plug your phone into the case and then you have it. Just bear in mind it will add extra bulk to your iPhone 7 Plus as it will be longer and a bit thicker due to the bigger sized case.
Thanks Nick, you always give best advice.
Yet another great video BUT ! When I plug in my 3.7 kW charging lead the car immediately starts to charge. I cannot see how I can delay the charge to take advantage of cheaper night rate electricity. Can you help?
Hi Alan, most electric cars and hybrids start charging automatically to get electricity into them ASAP but there isn’t anything like that on the car. That sort of functionality is primarily down to your charge point at home. Most new ones being installed at the moment are smart ones which have an app etc where you can do this.
Hi Nick Thanks for your reply. My GLA plug-in hybrid manual tells me I can activate pre-entry climate control or pre-timed charging using Mercedes me. I’ve tried but had no success !
Hi Alan,
Yes you can do Pre Entry Climate Control but not a Pre Timed Charge or anything.
Pre entry climate can be done on the car via the menus or via the Mercedes me app.
@@npoleary Many Thanks
@@npoleary Hi Nick - great video; I have just got a a250e and need to charge at night to get the better rate - this must be possible?
No demo of the car in action?
Ah maybe next time Peter! I was aiming this video more at things to consider and things that most petrol and diesel owners haven't seen like charging and costs etc.
I wish i can get one 👍👍👍
Me too!!
👳♂️
I need your help. Just got my mercedes e200 2020 brand new i bought it from Germany and shipped it my country. When i open navigation i get message " please install compatible navigation software from sd card....etc" is it possible to do it myself?
Hi KillyWildlands,
I’ll try! Just bear in mind I’m based in the UK and spec can vary from country to country so my answer might not be 100% accurate.
However in the UK E-Class’s without COMAND arrive like this. Basically there is a small SD card found in the back in plastic bag with the manual. Once inserted into the centre console (where your left elbow would rest when driving) then it will load up.
Just double check the specification on your car, does it come with the SD Card Based Navigation?
Hope that answers your question!
@@npoleary thanks alot nick I will check that up and see. My E200 is from Germany
Bonjour à vous . Je possède un eqc de 2020 je voudrais savoir si on peut programmer ça recharge. Si oui comment procéder merci
Hey! Not sure I understand about programming it to recharge. An Electric car will charge when you plug it in just like a phone. For public charging you'll need to activate the chargepoint first and then plug in. If it's scheduling a charge, that is often done by the chargepoint and not the car. For example my chargepoint at home has smart capability that links with my tariff. The car would not know how to do this. Hope that helps!
Google Translate:
Hé! Je ne suis pas sûr de comprendre comment le programmer pour le recharger. Une voiture électrique se recharge lorsque vous la branchez, tout comme un téléphone. Pour la recharge publique, vous devrez d'abord activer la borne de recharge, puis la brancher. S'il s'agit de planifier une recharge, cela est souvent effectué par la borne de recharge et non par la voiture. Par exemple, ma borne de recharge à la maison dispose de fonctionnalités intelligentes liées à mon tarif. La voiture ne saurait pas faire ça. J'espère que cela pourra aider!
@@npoleary merci pour votre réponse .oui c’est bien pour une recharge planifier.par toute les bornes maison peuvent planifier la recharge .par contre beaucoup de voitures d’autres marques le font. Merci encore.
Tesla already established a charging network esp. in North America including Canada where Im in. The only reason if im buying the EQC would be built quality of European cars! I hv model 3 but really, it drives like a honda civic ride quality but the price of a GLE!
Absolutely right Eric! Tesla have a great charging network for road trips. There are many companies increasing the infrastructure day by day so only time will tell!
Hi. I’m a happy EQC owner, but with the charging I’m disappointed specifically with the Charging Time configurable options.
What I mean is that unfortunately the EQC is only able to charge immediately after plugging in (!!) and a charging based on a departure time, for example very useful at home, is not working. Even when configuring the Departure Time, the car start charging immediately.
That’s double BAD because:
1) not possible to optimize energy costs by charging during the low tariff during the night -> extra unnecessary costs
2) when needed to charge to 100%, car reach 100% SOC much earlier than needed, i.e. remaining on 100% during several hours (even the all night or more) because charging starting immediately even if programmed to be fully charged on departure time 😢 -> higher battery degradation and less available range in the future
Please investigate on this topic please. Mercedes hotline is trying to explain me that this is a correct behavior, even if it is obvious that is a BUG to me.
Congrats for you videos!
Hey Renato,
Glad you like videos! Thank you!
The departure time is for setting your heating to come on at a certain time prior to leaving. Typically most charge points being installed now in homes are smart chargers which you can set at certain times to control when it provides power to the car etc that way you can take advantage of charging overnight etc.
If you're concerned about SOC you can set a maximum charge limit which quite a few electric cars allow you to do. Mercedes-Benz showrooms set the SOC less than 70% to preserve the battery life while it's in showrooms or in storage. But yes you're absolutely right the less time it spends at 100% the longer it will last but this is fine for overnight charging. The EQC's 80kWh battery can take all night to get to 100% due to its large battery. It is recommended that if you know you're not needing to use all of your battery then set the maximum charge limit for less. That way it won't even reach 100%.
@@npoleary Hi Nick. Many thanks for your answer. Although all other EVs give the possibility to program/influence the charging-time with “departure time” or with “charging starting time” -> it’s very disappointing that the EQC only charging option is “immediately” -> this create extra costs (during the day, the energy cost 30-40% more, example of Switzerland) because i want to plugin my car when i arrive home during the day and i don’t want to wake up at 2AM to plug in.
For the same reason, when I really need to charge at 100% (i.e. in winter or because i have to travel on highway trip or family trip or many other reasons), I also want to plug in the day before -> but by so doing, the car will immediately charge until 100%.
Your interpretation of the guideline is the same I received from Mercedes, but let me highlight one fact: Mercedes created two distinctive chapters: one for “Charging the battery at time of departure” and one for “Pre-entry climate control at departure time”.
Additionally, in the chap. “Charging the battery at time of departure”, there is the additional selection “WITH or WITHOUT pre-climate the cabine” (!!) -> this means clearly that the original aims of the chap. “Charging the battery at time of departure” was NOT the pre-climate reason, but the reason which I assume it should be: changing the charging time of the battery, which unfortunately, it’s not working -> now Mercedes updated the wording in their Guides (from 04/2020 manual) by writing that it’s correct that the car start to charge immediately. This is clearly a trick in my opinion, because they know they have a bug in the functionality of “charging the battery at time of departure”. Again, if it would have been as Mercedes want us to believe, why simply not doing just the Chapter “pre-entry climate control at a given time”?
In any case, you can agree or disagree with above arguments, but one FACT remain -> EQC can only charge immediately and no way to charge until departure time! -> and this is double bad (as explained above) and it’s a very stupid-charging-management, even compared with any other EV (even cheaper one can do it... including my wife’s BMW i3 from 2014... !)
There are so many good reasons to charge the battery just in time for departure that even Mercedes should be able to understand 😔
Best Regards
Hi Renato,
I can’t speak on behalf of Mercedes-Benz for not offering this but as this is a first generation electric vehicle, I’d imagine Mercedes-Benz want to make Electric ownership as easy as possible and eliminate any barriers in relation to range & charging.
I fully understand that off peak rates are amazing and greatly reduce running costs not to mention State of Charge benefits for batter longevity.
Reading online there are reports of people who have set timers on their EV’s and then on a different day forgot to turn the timer function off and then found it hadn’t charged just before they needed it the most.
I know Apple do this on the latest iOS Versions where it charges to 80% and then finishes off the remaining 20% just in time before you wake up so not sure what the future holds but I’m sure Mercedes-Benz are working on it!
@@npoleary yes I got you point. Thanks for your time answering me ✌🏼. Let’s hope they put out a SW update with it. BR Renato
Fingers crossed as those features are very useful for EV owners!
salespersons should stop lying about range!
if you're concerned about range, get a passat diesel.
"in real life conditions you always get 200 miles",
hahahaha, in winter in city traffic you can count on 100 miles, rest is bonus, highway at anything above 100 km/h forget 200 miles, headwind, rain, cold, airco/heating, they all take their bite out of that illusionary 250 miles
...and on top of that, when's the last time you actually went down to a range of 10 km on your petrol car?
deduct your own safety margin, too, and you end up with 100-150 miles and only on a good day with super-defensive driving, and a charging station right where you need it, you get 200-220 miles
i love the car,and i know the limitations, but many people will be frustrated, annoyed, just be turned off after their first 2 weeks, if they fell for the range lie, and will never take electric again
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