If I had a choice of only these two EVs, I would pick the Audi. However, I like the styling and performance of the Jaguar EV. If you can overlook fit and finish issues, then the Teslas should also be on anyone's list when it comes to shopping for EVs.
The Merc AMG version all day. Better looking nicer interior. It retains the classic silver button dash combined with the big screen. Outside it looks more muscular. I love the Running Board under the doors and as for those wheels!
I have the etron 55, every morning it’s charged to 80% and shows a range of 138 miles this works out at 172mils fully charged in winter. That’s about 23 miles less than in summer. That’s nearly 100 miles less than claimed. The car is great I just wish they would be more honest with people about the real world range !
i would go for the audi (maybe a little biased meaning, because we just bought the etron, but we tried both eqc and etron the etron just feels better and more spacey) ;)
Mercedes interior is more practical and stylish looking in my opinion, love that there are buttons in it. As for the exterior, Audi etron hands down. I would personally choose Mercedes-Benz, which shouts class 💓
They are both capable of producing something far more appealing... apart from regen and type of drive, there wasn't much said about any other functions...
Tesla is rapidly reducing the price of EVs thanks to economies of scale but unfortunately, Daimler AG (which owns Mercedes-Benz, Smart, Setra, Mitsubishi Commercial Vehicles [not the car business], Thomas Built Buses etc.) and Volkswagen Group (which owns VW, Audi, Skoda [cars not public transport vehicles], Seat, MAN, etc.) have been sleeping for the past 15 years since Tesla's founding and so all they've produced are expensive and not great for the price electric vehicles and thats not to mention the price premium they add to SUVs when compared to their lower ride height cars (like saloons/sedans, hatchbacks etc.) that they add to their vehicles despite only being different looks and a taller vehicle.
EQC is my choice. It drives better. One recommendation, when you talk about EVs, you have to go in depth on ranges, efficiency, charging speed, power management software that kind of things.
Agreed. When the electric cars are really ready, people will be ready for them. Range, price, and charging rates of the current crop just don't fit into most people's needs. I'd need at least 400 miles of range to be able to deal with a busy day, and a much lower price. If I lived in a big city and didn't need to travel, I'd have the Honda E.
MERCEDES.... PLEASE stick to this design... I don't mind the transmission tunnel obstructing a bit in the middle at the rear seats !! The important thing is, that you aspire to the gazillions of people who are FORCED to adapt to the EV market.... and you've hit a soft spot with this car. We really _wanted_ the GLC but realize it is becoming obsolete in the near future and we have to go electric.... but we love that you stick to the design of the fantastic GLC in the EQC !
Audi - the main reason was that they did me the best deal when I wanted to put one against my company to take advantage of the BIK rates. I tested them all and they were that close it came down to who did the best deal. I’m very impressed with it after having it a couple of months.
I own an E-Tron, and am nearing 10,000 miles. It fits my use case perfectly (range and capability to go skiing in hard winters, comfort for day to day) and I am overall pleased with it. That being said, the bluetooth is terrible, and the steering wheel is laid out poorly for one-handed driving (think turning the volume up with your driving hand will sipping a drink, the buttons are on the wrong side for all but you in Britain). I also have a 2nd more fun car in the garage, and if I didn't, I don't think I would be willing to go electric quite yet. I still like the road-trip ability of a gas powered car here in the States. 8/10 I like it because it is the least obtrusive electric car I have found, in terms of it being an electric car. It doesn't shout at you or others about any 'special-ness' EV's may have in some circles. Get in and drive, and for the most part it feels simply like a nice Audi, rather than a gadget like some other makes.
@@lovecarsTV I am very lucky to be able to indulge my passion for cars. The garage car is BMW's first go at making a Supra out of the Z4, a Z4M Coupe. I think Z4 Coupes are a rarer sight here in the States, compared to the UK, which is lucky for you, because in my biased opinion, it is a very pretty modern BMW. Wish there were more on the road.
You don't say anything about the costs...what happens when the batteries worn out? In a diesel if the turbo goes out then you replace the turbo, in a reg engine a pipe bursts you replace the pipe which is not too much trouble but when the batteries for this E tron worn out then what? What would be the cost? How long these batteries run for before they go bust? 2 years? 3 years?
You will not see an issue before 8 to 10 years...BMW has also changed warranty to 8 Years for the I3 since Battery lasts longer than they expected themselves. There is always a Brutto and Netto value of the Battery and this buffer will hide the degradation of Battery for years.
Merc in nicer looking in my eyes both inside and exterior. Would do a straight swap for either against my Cayenne S diesel. Up to 600 miles on a tank full, fills up in less than 5 minutes, and sounds good too.
Drives the Audi in comfort mode and complains that it rolls in the corners, come on! Try atleast to deactivate all the "comfort" in in individual mode and put it in S with boost mode. It doesnt even mather, the Audi looks far better than the eqc.
Hi Paul, well done for proudly wearing the AutOism tee shirt. We have subbed to Leon. Helping raise awareness of Autism is close to my heart as one of my daughters has it. We are a car loving family and have organised a few fun charity fund raising events for the cause. Great channel and it has recently become one of my regular TH-cam favourites!
As a 68 year old, dyed in the wood petrolhead, I would not to want to own either. Driving is such a pain these days anyway, so when you can get on a decent bit of road, you want a car you can properly engage with.....and let's face it, the sound of a decent engine engages you more than most things. Tumbleweed or the sound of a Scalextric car really don't stir the soul. I'll stick with my RSQ3, 5 cylinder sound track thank you and really enjoy my driving when I can.
Driving an electric takes away 90% of the pain. I arrive feeling so much fresher, it's surprising how tiring the mechanical vibrations of an engine and gearbox are. I leave house with a "full tank", so don't have to stop at petrol stations. 1 pedal driving is also much more relaxing than needing to use the brake pedal. Traffic jams are a breeze, actually make my range go up and the car drives itself without any of the intrusion of stop start engines. I then get to cruise around town in the smoothest and quietest way possible. And all this before we even consider the pollution levels for the kids in our streets.
@@ffrrannk When you just need to commute and travel, no warm up time, silence for music, easy in traffic as you say, they're fantastic. To commute I'd have one instantly. They're not engaging though and it's pointless for the chap above to compare it to an RSQ3 .. hardly say that's engaging anyway. EV during the week and something smaller and fun for when you actually want to drive .. or a bike even! Perfect
@@Stator720 yes exactly. The dream would be a fun petrol car "in the garage" for a weekend blast. But by the time I'm in the position for that it wouldn't surprise me if there are some great "weekend" electric options too. The main takeaway is ICE cars are terrible for sitting on our ever more congested roads and EV ownership makes more and more sense. Perhaps we'll see the rise of affordable ICE sports car shared ownership clubs.
@@lovecarsTV Yep, and Front Camera Navigation with directions overlaid. When waiting at traffic lights the camera moves to show the lights. Very useful if at the front of queue, and speed limit signs even temporary ones.
Great review. But the Mercedes for me. Reviewers of cars never go into the fine detail, like the new MBUX multi media nav system on the Mercedes with its augmented navigation and lots more.
EV's are supposed to be all about efficieny, but then why do they make them in SUV form i.e bad aero and heavy weight? You guys should do a long term test with en EV and tell us what it's acutally like to live with :)
We haven’t had any opportunities to have long term loans, however for the EVs we have had at a week at a time we have always really struggled to live with them with what we do. Filming is often a pain as areas we film have very little charging infrastructure making things very difficult. And also just getting about is difficult. We do what we are supposed to, research the routes, the chargers etc however this is often not enough. One charger we visited was supposed to be useable via an app. Turns out the app didn’t know this particular station existed as it was too new. Another didn’t have cables long enough to fit in to the side of the etron. Another one we charged at when the battery was very low, the whole charge station just cut out after 7 minutes and after a long call late at night to support it was deemed there was nothing they could do. Our experience with the infrastructure has been very challenging, especially around Somerset.
Lovecars And those kinds of experiences are definitely something I think you could mention in these videos. Tbh if I was buying an EV, then the ability to fast charge and the real world range would be my two main concerns. Thanks for the reply btw. Love your videos :)
Hmm... An Audi Q7 can hardly be driven bellow 10l /100km...an eTron ist between 25 and 30kwh/100km, which means 2.5 to 3l Diesel as energy equivalent...not that bad? 😉
The future going to be less noise pollution and air pollution. Now they better prepare think of how to recycle those batteries in the future (home energy storage)?
These cars no longer use lead acid batteries, they use lithium ion which are used in phones and laptops so these can be recycled by the companies which recycle cellphone batteries
E-Tron definitely has ventilated and Heated seats on front AND back seats. Additionally, it also has massaging seats on BOTH the driver and passenger side. You probably looked at the base level.
Cheers for the review and presentation of these two E-SUVs guys, good job as always, but no thanks. The most expensive part of owning one of these, is not just the money you'll pay to buy them, but that after a few years of owning and putting miles on them one would need to replace the storage cell/s which tend to loose efficiency over the years and usage, and these cells are pretty expensive. If I had the money and I had to choose between buying one of these and giving it to the poor, I would do the second. As I said no thanks, I will stick to my old school 2003 1000hp evo 8.
@@lovecarsTV Well I'd love to do that, but I would have to put it in a couple of ships first and take it for a little spin to get to you. I live in Cyprus guys. Keep the content of the channel up, it is quality material, on point, well presented and has a certain touch of class in it. It is one of favourite car channels, and deserves a lot more subscriptions and views. The Evo is fully built in all aspects and she is awesome on the road!
Stop lying the average ev has an 8 year 100,000 miles battery warranty to a spec capacity. Some manufacturers such as kia&Hyundai are guaranteeing the battery itself for the life of the vehicle. Gd uninformed lying idiots on TH-cam!
@@benjaminwalker3972 The only misinformed here is you. You are so gullible to believe whatever a manufacturer advertises, especially in regards to electric vehicles. Apart from that, you did not understand what I said. I said after a certain amount of miles,it could be at 40K it could be at 60K, the storage cells start to lose efficiency which it is exactly what happens, their efficiency drops below 80%, and by 100K miles it will be even less, factory spec my ass, if it makes it up to 100k without any other problem that is, which by today's technology it is very possible for a problem to exist you moron. There are reasons , apart from usage, that it could easily fail, like heat and contamination, wrong way of charging. If it is still under warranty and the company accepts your claim without throwing at you the usual bullshit, then good for you, what happens after the warranty ceases to be valid? And its 8 yrs or a 100K, which ever comes first,and it is not for the average EV, it is for any EV a certain manufacturer makes, depending on the manufacturer that might extent to 10 yrs, or 150K, but that's just marketing, reality begs to differ. Personally I do not trust today's electric vehicles, nor any of the statements any manufacturer makes on their electric cars.Now call me a liar one more time bitch and see what happens.
Thanks for the feedback. Will amend the adverts. And the ending was tough... reality is neither were for us, but we really want to embrace and support the EV changes
Lovecars totally get it and it was obvious you don’t have the EV love. So maybe don’t review them? I’m a petrolhead and love my 911, but I also have an i3s that I’m looking to upgrade to an SUV electric car. If you live in London and have dogs an electric SUV is a great choice. I have been looking at the EQC but was disappointed at the lack of really useful insight in your review. I guess you just are not who they are aimed at? Pity, as you could have brought far more detail to the review from two guys who really know and love cars.
Tom Smith but the i3 is completely different. It’s actually quite hard to fault that car and it has a place as a city car and also a car you can comfortably do long journeys in. These don’t quite know their place but we always try and see the best in every car we review though honestly didn’t have a conclusive opinion without perhaps coming across even more negative!!
Lovecars That’s fair but I guess as “real” journalists vice the usual TH-camrs I just expected more? Maybe a bit harsh, but you didn’t help me to workout what to replace my i3 with... Maybe that’s a TH-cam show in the making? All that said, I do enjoy your channel!
Great review but I don’t know why anyone would buy one of these when the Tesla Model X is around. It’s faster, has a longer range and the supercharger network is years ahead
@@lovecarsTV starts at £83K, and you just told us the Audi can go up to £92K. So there has to be at least some cross shopping when you concider the X has more range, more performance, more space, more tech and quite frankly ludicrously flashy doors.
Bryan hi Bryan. 50 years of eating too much and not exercising enough. (Oh and the t-shirt was a gift from Leon who runs the autism car club. I find it better to try and help and be positive than to worry about my gut sticking out). Paul
Hi Ben. Well spotted and thanks for the feedback! We’re a very small production so we don’t have the luxury of hours of filming to choose from. That said, we always try and keep a very watchful eye on the continuity but as you know even Hollywood blockbusters get continuity wrong!
Hey I’m not complaining I just always seem to spot these little things. And your right they happen everywhere. As a car fan I have only recently come across your channel and I love the content you guys are putting out. Great to see Tiff on screen again. Thanks for all the great vids!
No CarPlay/Android Auto from the factory? Yikes. So far it's only the Tesla Model X that does it for me in electric SUVs. And I'm nowhere near being a Tesla fanboy.
@@lovecarsTV Cmon, you didn't get that?! Missed opportunity. He was referring to this amazing piece of art Mercedes ad!---> EQC x The Weeknd Blinding Lights
I feel as if both manufacturers have missed the chance to make something a little different. Unfortunately they both look much like anything else on the road. Shame
So which one would you choose?
I will chose the e tron
Audi has the looks over the merc but quality for is its weak point. I will probably go for the Merc.
Merc! It's beautiful
Neither
SupersaneX you mean Audi has poor quality here compared to eqc?
This makes me feel so happy to see that you’re wearing and supporting me and Autoism Thank you so much and I prefer the Audi
It’s our absolute pleasure Leon! Thanks for watching 🙂
Great to hear thank you very much and no problem at all
Autoism TV exellent to see Paul wearing your tee shirt. I have just subbed to your channel....great name!
Jordan Rivers-Scott It really is
I love the EQC
i went for the e tron, its just a bit better at everything, a bit more expensive though. both are nice cars
Audi E-Tron would be my choice 👌
Good choice!
I think the Audi is nice, but I went with the EQC and I haven't regretted it once.
Hi a year later have you noticed any mileage drop or has the battery held up okay?
I am curious too as I am thinking to buy the EQC this week
@@Seyeraaadid you buy it? I’m considering one as well.
Love my 23 plate eqc
I love the EQC
At around 1:56, Paul is introducing the e-Tron whilst driving the EQC. You can see the Mercedes badge and paddles.
Well spotted. I guess even mega Hollywood movies get continuity wrong, but still an error on our part. Thanks for the feedback 👍
The Audi’s interior and exterior is definitely better imo
It does look smart inside and out.
Gorgeous factory fitted wheels on merc💥
Good looking car all round 👍
If I had a choice of only these two EVs, I would pick the Audi. However, I like the styling and performance of the Jaguar EV. If you can overlook fit and finish issues, then the Teslas should also be on anyone's list when it comes to shopping for EVs.
The Merc AMG version all day. Better looking nicer interior. It retains the classic silver button dash combined with the big screen. Outside it looks more muscular. I love the Running Board under the doors and as for those wheels!
Audi wins hands down for me too i think Paul , Love the banter between Tiff and Paul
Thank you Lee!
I think the etron compares more to the eqe or even eqs in terms of interior quality and size
I have the etron 55, every morning it’s charged to 80% and shows a range of 138 miles this works out at 172mils fully charged in winter. That’s about 23 miles less than in summer. That’s nearly 100 miles less than claimed. The car is great I just wish they would be more honest with people about the real world range !
Interesting, there are so many variables with electric cars!
i would go for the audi (maybe a little biased meaning, because we just bought the etron, but we tried both eqc and etron the etron just feels better and more spacey) ;)
Love the aggressive Audi exterior more but it's always something special about Mercedes that's dragging me towards them lol
2:00 „and now the Audi“ *shows the interior of the merc of him driving it*
Well spotted! 🤫
Mercedes interior is more practical and stylish looking in my opinion, love that there are buttons in it. As for the exterior, Audi etron hands down.
I would personally choose Mercedes-Benz, which shouts class 💓
They are both capable of producing something far more appealing... apart from regen and type of drive, there wasn't much said about any other functions...
Thanks for the feedback.
I think the Audi E-Tron Sportback is better than these two choices
I also think the Honda is cooler. These look like dinosaurs and they are brandnew.
The Honda really won us over!
7:32 my dad when i broke his toy car collection.
hahahhahaha!!
@9:00. You missed a trick. It wasn’t the engines whining... it was you Tiff
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I can’t wait for when they underreport battery/ motor capabilities the way some sports cars have their hp underreported today.
Haha true!
I’m with Tiff. I Pace, all day.
Anthony Dayspring99 nice choice. Though new e tron coupe could be interesting
Great work lads, if this is the future......it looks rather expensive !
A little bit pricey! But then ICE SUVs are not exactly cheap!
Thats the price of future today
Tesla is rapidly reducing the price of EVs thanks to economies of scale but unfortunately, Daimler AG (which owns Mercedes-Benz, Smart, Setra, Mitsubishi Commercial Vehicles [not the car business], Thomas Built Buses etc.) and Volkswagen Group (which owns VW, Audi, Skoda [cars not public transport vehicles], Seat, MAN, etc.) have been sleeping for the past 15 years since Tesla's founding and so all they've produced are expensive and not great for the price electric vehicles and thats not to mention the price premium they add to SUVs when compared to their lower ride height cars (like saloons/sedans, hatchbacks etc.) that they add to their vehicles despite only being different looks and a taller vehicle.
EQC is my choice. It drives better. One recommendation, when you talk about EVs, you have to go in depth on ranges, efficiency, charging speed, power management software that kind of things.
Agreed. When the electric cars are really ready, people will be ready for them. Range, price, and charging rates of the current crop just don't fit into most people's needs. I'd need at least 400 miles of range to be able to deal with a busy day, and a much lower price. If I lived in a big city and didn't need to travel, I'd have the Honda E.
Yep for some people a larger range is needed for sure!
I have seen a decent amount of e-tron's in person since they've come out. I have yet to see an EQC on the road yet though.
Let us know what you think when you see one! 👌😁
@@lovecarsTV Im in Cheshire seen quite a few
Oh if I wasn't poor as heck, I would love to buy one of these.
Quite expensive unfortunately!
MERCEDES.... PLEASE stick to this design... I don't mind the transmission tunnel obstructing a bit in the middle at the rear seats !!
The important thing is, that you aspire to the gazillions of people who are FORCED to adapt to the EV market.... and you've hit a soft spot with this car.
We really _wanted_ the GLC but realize it is becoming obsolete in the near future and we have to go electric.... but we love that you stick to the design of the fantastic GLC in the EQC !
Audi - the main reason was that they did me the best deal when I wanted to put one against my company to take advantage of the BIK rates. I tested them all and they were that close it came down to who did the best deal. I’m very impressed with it after having it a couple of months.
Nice. I'm just going through same process now.
Incredible review! A performance test would be nice to see next time!
Thanks for watching and noted 🙂
I LOVE YOUR AUT ISM! T SHIRT, right steering wheel only
Sorry for my English, I don't know why this channel don't have more subs.
EQC for me
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I own an E-Tron, and am nearing 10,000 miles. It fits my use case perfectly (range and capability to go skiing in hard winters, comfort for day to day) and I am overall pleased with it. That being said, the bluetooth is terrible, and the steering wheel is laid out poorly for one-handed driving (think turning the volume up with your driving hand will sipping a drink, the buttons are on the wrong side for all but you in Britain). I also have a 2nd more fun car in the garage, and if I didn't, I don't think I would be willing to go electric quite yet. I still like the road-trip ability of a gas powered car here in the States.
8/10 I like it because it is the least obtrusive electric car I have found, in terms of it being an electric car. It doesn't shout at you or others about any 'special-ness' EV's may have in some circles. Get in and drive, and for the most part it feels simply like a nice Audi, rather than a gadget like some other makes.
Having the best of both worlds with the EV and something else must be a nice place to be. 🙂
TheSpeedTrap Audi has always gotten steering wheel layout wrong, well for LHD vehicles at least.
@@lovecarsTV I am very lucky to be able to indulge my passion for cars. The garage car is BMW's first go at making a Supra out of the Z4, a Z4M Coupe. I think Z4 Coupes are a rarer sight here in the States, compared to the UK, which is lucky for you, because in my biased opinion, it is a very pretty modern BMW. Wish there were more on the road.
Love your videos and would love more content
You don't say anything about the costs...what happens when the batteries worn out? In a diesel if the turbo goes out then you replace the turbo, in a reg engine a pipe bursts you replace the pipe which is not too much trouble but when the batteries for this E tron worn out then what? What would be the cost? How long these batteries run for before they go bust? 2 years? 3 years?
You will not see an issue before 8 to 10 years...BMW has also changed warranty to 8 Years for the I3 since Battery lasts longer than they expected themselves.
There is always a Brutto and Netto value of the Battery and this buffer will hide the degradation of Battery for years.
Merc in nicer looking in my eyes both inside and exterior. Would do a straight swap for either against my Cayenne S diesel. Up to 600 miles on a tank full, fills up in less than 5 minutes, and sounds good too.
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Drives the Audi in comfort mode and complains that it rolls in the corners, come on! Try atleast to deactivate all the "comfort" in in individual mode and put it in S with boost mode. It doesnt even mather, the Audi looks far better than the eqc.
Hi Paul, well done for proudly wearing the AutOism tee shirt. We have subbed to Leon. Helping raise awareness of Autism is close to my heart as one of my daughters has it. We are a car loving family and have organised a few fun charity fund raising events for the cause. Great channel and it has recently become one of my regular TH-cam favourites!
Thanks for the kind words Jordan and it is our absolute pleasure supporting Leon and the great cause 🙂
The Audi can be charged on both sides of the car in the EU? not the case in the US.
Oh really?! We wasn’t aware of that, thanks for letting us know!
This is an option you have to order
As a 68 year old, dyed in the wood petrolhead, I would not to want to own either. Driving is such a pain these days anyway, so when you can get on a decent bit of road, you want a car you can properly engage with.....and let's face it, the sound of a decent engine engages you more than most things. Tumbleweed or the sound of a Scalextric car really don't stir the soul. I'll stick with my RSQ3, 5 cylinder sound track thank you and really enjoy my driving when I can.
Great choice 👌🏻
Driving an electric takes away 90% of the pain. I arrive feeling so much fresher, it's surprising how tiring the mechanical vibrations of an engine and gearbox are. I leave house with a "full tank", so don't have to stop at petrol stations. 1 pedal driving is also much more relaxing than needing to use the brake pedal. Traffic jams are a breeze, actually make my range go up and the car drives itself without any of the intrusion of stop start engines. I then get to cruise around town in the smoothest and quietest way possible. And all this before we even consider the pollution levels for the kids in our streets.
@@ffrrannk When you just need to commute and travel, no warm up time, silence for music, easy in traffic as you say, they're fantastic. To commute I'd have one instantly. They're not engaging though and it's pointless for the chap above to compare it to an RSQ3 .. hardly say that's engaging anyway.
EV during the week and something smaller and fun for when you actually want to drive .. or a bike even! Perfect
@@Stator720 yes exactly. The dream would be a fun petrol car "in the garage" for a weekend blast. But by the time I'm in the position for that it wouldn't surprise me if there are some great "weekend" electric options too.
The main takeaway is ICE cars are terrible for sitting on our ever more congested roads and EV ownership makes more and more sense. Perhaps we'll see the rise of affordable ICE sports car shared ownership clubs.
AUDI
You mentioned Tesla and Nissan, but not Toyota? 😯 [amusing review, as usual!]
Tiff is a LEGEND!
Not old.
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It’s good that this review of electric cars started in the first second with a loud engine rev. 😅
😂
I drive with the EQC-400, amazing car. I test before Audi ...it's not the same !!
9:47 *No Speed Limit showing on Sat-Nav, it does on mine ?*
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ do you have traffic sign recognition maybe?
@@lovecarsTV Yep, and Front Camera Navigation with directions overlaid. When waiting at traffic lights the camera moves to show the lights. Very useful if at the front of queue, and speed limit signs even temporary ones.
I have now driven both and the Mercedes is hands down the better drive, it’s better looking and faster. No brainer
Merc looks more classy
Love Cars.... where the love goes beyond cars! Great job guys. Good on you for supporting 👏. (Reference...the t shirt)
Thank you 🙏
These are not cars, buddy. They are tin boxes with a pimped hoover motor. Very expesive hoovers, wissen. 🤑
I'm with Tiff, the i-pace would be my choice as well. Nice review, thanks lads.👍
Thanks for watching 🙂
Enjoyed watching the Comparison. I actually like both Models
Thanks for watching and commenting 🙂
EQC hands down
Audi ofcourse
VIZIN you’re not alone there!
Great review. But the Mercedes for me. Reviewers of cars never go into the fine detail, like the new MBUX multi media nav system on the Mercedes with its augmented navigation and lots more.
EV's are supposed to be all about efficieny, but then why do they make them in SUV form i.e bad aero and heavy weight? You guys should do a long term test with en EV and tell us what it's acutally like to live with :)
We haven’t had any opportunities to have long term loans, however for the EVs we have had at a week at a time we have always really struggled to live with them with what we do.
Filming is often a pain as areas we film have very little charging infrastructure making things very difficult. And also just getting about is difficult.
We do what we are supposed to, research the routes, the chargers etc however this is often not enough.
One charger we visited was supposed to be useable via an app. Turns out the app didn’t know this particular station existed as it was too new. Another didn’t have cables long enough to fit in to the side of the etron. Another one we charged at when the battery was very low, the whole charge station just cut out after 7 minutes and after a long call late at night to support it was deemed there was nothing they could do.
Our experience with the infrastructure has been very challenging, especially around Somerset.
Lovecars And those kinds of experiences are definitely something I think you could mention in these videos.
Tbh if I was buying an EV, then the ability to fast charge and the real world range would be my two main concerns.
Thanks for the reply btw. Love your videos :)
Hmm... An Audi Q7 can hardly be driven bellow 10l /100km...an eTron ist between 25 and 30kwh/100km, which means 2.5 to 3l Diesel as energy equivalent...not that bad? 😉
@@josefv-y8m why would I be concerned with energy efficiency? Range and easy charging access are the main priorities for most people I would think :)
The future going to be less noise pollution and air pollution. Now they better prepare think of how to recycle those batteries in the future (home energy storage)?
These cars no longer use lead acid batteries, they use lithium ion which are used in phones and laptops so these can be recycled by the companies which recycle cellphone batteries
The former cto of tesla has already founded a battery recycling company in Cali. It will scale up as the demand does.
Battery recycling is becoming a huge market, and there is so much money to be made I don't think we will ever have a problem with battery waste!
Mercedes Benz EQC AMG edition
Good choice 👍🏻
Mercedes 👍
Good choice!
Audi is my choice!
Good choice.
Hi guys, could you test the Polestar 2? I think it’s a way smarter looking car and a bit smaller. Would be interest to hear your thoughts!,
Would love to. Thanks for the idea
Etron doesn't have ventilated seats. Merc does. For those of us in warmer weather, makes a big difference!
Very good point! Thank you
E-Tron definitely has ventilated and Heated seats on front AND back seats. Additionally, it also has massaging seats on BOTH the driver and passenger side. You probably looked at the base level.
yes the e tron come with ventilation seats
numbers, numbers and more numbers, like a spreadsheet with pretty pics to sweeten the boredom.
Not sure what you were expecting before you clicked on it!
Would be great to see you guys compare the Merc to the Tesla Model X and maybe the Jaguar I pace😁
Possibly in the future 🙂
EQC amg !! Bether interior too. Go too EQC!👍
Obviously aesthetically both are better looking than the Tesla. But is the Tesla’s technology better?
They've done well with the styling of both vehicles!
"When the electric world's ready - i'll be ready"
QED
Hey Tiff , do you remember doing doughnuts around Clarkson with his Ferrari 355?
We’ll have to ask!
I liked the banter more than the cars 😅😅
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Cheers for the review and presentation of these two E-SUVs guys, good job as always, but no thanks. The most expensive part of owning one of these, is not just the money you'll pay to buy them, but that after a few years of owning and putting miles on them one would need to replace the storage cell/s which tend to loose efficiency over the years and usage, and these cells are pretty expensive. If I had the money and I had to choose between buying one of these and giving it to the poor, I would do the second. As I said no thanks, I will stick to my old school 2003 1000hp evo 8.
1000hp evo?! Tell us more, we should get you down to one of our drag races!!
@@lovecarsTV Well I'd love to do that, but I would have to put it in a couple of ships first and take it for a little spin to get to you. I live in Cyprus guys. Keep the content of the channel up, it is quality material, on point, well presented and has a certain touch of class in it. It is one of favourite car channels, and deserves a lot more subscriptions and views. The Evo is fully built in all aspects and she is awesome on the road!
Stop lying the average ev has an 8 year 100,000 miles battery warranty to a spec capacity. Some manufacturers such as kia&Hyundai are guaranteeing the battery itself for the life of the vehicle. Gd uninformed lying idiots on TH-cam!
@@benjaminwalker3972 The only misinformed here is you. You are so gullible to believe whatever a manufacturer advertises, especially in regards to electric vehicles. Apart from that, you did not understand what I said. I said after a certain amount of miles,it could be at 40K it could be at 60K, the storage cells start to lose efficiency which it is exactly what happens, their efficiency drops below 80%, and by 100K miles it will be even less, factory spec my ass, if it makes it up to 100k without any other problem that is, which by today's technology it is very possible for a problem to exist you moron. There are reasons , apart from usage, that it could easily fail, like heat and contamination, wrong way of charging. If it is still under warranty and the company accepts your claim without throwing at you the usual bullshit, then good for you, what happens after the warranty ceases to be valid? And its 8 yrs or a 100K, which ever comes first,and it is not for the average EV, it is for any EV a certain manufacturer makes, depending on the manufacturer that might extent to 10 yrs, or 150K, but that's just marketing, reality begs to differ. Personally I do not trust today's electric vehicles, nor any of the statements any manufacturer makes on their electric cars.Now call me a liar one more time bitch and see what happens.
The running boards on the Merc win it.
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Audi....because where I live requires a proper 4WD. Quattro is king!
Wasn’t a great conclusion and there were way too many adverts. The first advert started after 55 seconds....
Thanks for the feedback. Will amend the adverts. And the ending was tough... reality is neither were for us, but we really want to embrace and support the EV changes
Lovecars totally get it and it was obvious you don’t have the EV love. So maybe don’t review them? I’m a petrolhead and love my 911, but I also have an i3s that I’m looking to upgrade to an SUV electric car. If you live in London and have dogs an electric SUV is a great choice. I have been looking at the EQC but was disappointed at the lack of really useful insight in your review. I guess you just are not who they are aimed at? Pity, as you could have brought far more detail to the review from two guys who really know and love cars.
Tom Smith but the i3 is completely different. It’s actually quite hard to fault that car and it has a place as a city car and also a car you can comfortably do long journeys in. These don’t quite know their place but we always try and see the best in every car we review though honestly didn’t have a conclusive opinion without perhaps coming across even more negative!!
Lovecars That’s fair but I guess as “real” journalists vice the usual TH-camrs I just expected more? Maybe a bit harsh, but you didn’t help me to workout what to replace my i3 with... Maybe that’s a TH-cam show in the making? All that said, I do enjoy your channel!
EQC Better all way !!❤
So brilliant to see Tiff Needell back again.
Love this guys
Great review but I don’t know why anyone would buy one of these when the Tesla Model X is around. It’s faster, has a longer range and the supercharger network is years ahead
Hammertime44 bit more expensive, but very good point
@@lovecarsTV starts at £83K, and you just told us the Audi can go up to £92K. So there has to be at least some cross shopping when you concider the X has more range, more performance, more space, more tech and quite frankly ludicrously flashy doors.
Why didn't you get a T-shirt that fitted ?
Bryan hi Bryan. 50 years of eating too much and not exercising enough. (Oh and the t-shirt was a gift from Leon who runs the autism car club. I find it better to try and help and be positive than to worry about my gut sticking out). Paul
yup i'm going with the Merc
1:58 bad editing. He is driving Audi. External shots are Audi but internal shot shows him behind the wheel of Merc
Hi Ben. Well spotted and thanks for the feedback! We’re a very small production so we don’t have the luxury of hours of filming to choose from. That said, we always try and keep a very watchful eye on the continuity but as you know even Hollywood blockbusters get continuity wrong!
Hey I’m not complaining I just always seem to spot these little things. And your right they happen everywhere. As a car fan I have only recently come across your channel and I love the content you guys are putting out. Great to see Tiff on screen again. Thanks for all the great vids!
Ben Jones didn’t take it as a complaint. It’s brilliant to get feedback on ways to improve. And genuinely impressed with your continuity error spot!!
Where is the engine sound? No fun when it's turn on the "silent mode". Price, range and sound is the main issues of EVs
Both difficult aspects for sure!
I'd go EQC, I think looks better and classier interior but more than likely would never drive neither as I love BMW 😂😂
Merc for sure
Get Tiff back on TV!
BH London soon! But for now there’s lots of him here! 😉
No I-Pace review?
I liked comparing the two similar luxury electric cars. I would choose the EQC, but also agree the I-Pace handles better.
Thanks Steve - and good choice with I-Pace too
No CarPlay/Android Auto from the factory? Yikes.
So far it's only the Tesla Model X that does it for me in electric SUVs. And I'm nowhere near being a Tesla fanboy.
It does tock a fair few boxes.
Tif,where you go.we ll follow you
Lots more with Tiff to come here 👍🏻
Woah, you drive electric?
We drive and test everything 🙂
@@lovecarsTV Cmon, you didn't get that?! Missed opportunity. He was referring to this amazing piece of art Mercedes ad!---> EQC x The Weeknd Blinding Lights
We’ll have to check that out 🙂
@@lovecarsTV Such a good ad!!
@@lovecarsTV Definitely should, its amazing.
Mercedes still King.
EQC any time
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My thoughts exactly, these cars are not ready yet.
Cars are certainly getting better, but our experience of the infrastructure is still a challenge!
For the vast majority of personal transportation use cases they are good enough!
Drag race?
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The Audi looks classier and sharper on the outside. Merc is a bit blobby.
Where’s the I-pace??? I don’t like the Mercedes so it would be between the I-pace and the e-tron or maybe I’d save some money and buy a polestar 2
Polestar certainly looks interesting but we are yet to test it!
I feel as if both manufacturers have missed the chance to make something a little different. Unfortunately they both look much like anything else on the road. Shame
Joe Joe hi Joe. Yes get where you’re coming from. We kind of elude to this in the summary 👍
Please drive with this cars 120 km, with 4 persons and airco or heater. What is the range?. You drive with two persons.
This is the review and testing we carried out 🙂
iPace for the design alone
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