Electric Record Nordschleife | Full Lap Volkswagen ID.R
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- Electric power can be so fast on the Nordschleife! ⚡
Racing driver Romain Dumas set the new electric record on the Nordschleife - 6:05 minutes!
Here is the complete lap of the Volkswagen ID.R!
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Keep Richard Hammond well away from this
And miss all the fun? No way!
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hahaaaaa spot on!
Never heard of her.
@Andrei rRRr The whole crash was very weirdly filmed. Seemed fake.
Max speed limit surely was costly...
Cost 11 seconds just on the straight. Was 35 seconds behind the 919 at start of straight and 46 seconds at the end.
I belive it limited with engine rev limit due to its technology, and transmission set to max acceleration.
@@konstantin88181 transmission? Revs? Lolwut?
@@konstantin88181 transmission? e car¡
@@opus_workshop Dude may you just finish school and go out to the industry and you will understand the difference between electric cars and fuel cars. But you can continue call other stupid you will just make yourselfe look like a mokey if you continue.
The cornering speed is so high, watching the onboard makes it seem the car is on rails 😅
Jeferson Klein it’s so fast yet it looks all calm going 120km on the tightest corners!
If you think this is fast, check out the Porsche 919’s Nordschliefe lap. It smashed the record to 5:15, the onboard footage is outrageous.
@@psychlops924 I don't think I'll be able to sleep after seeing that. The amount of adrenaline pumping through my system just watching that crazy lap ..
@@psychlops924 well yes that car is bonkers but *it has a smaller wing* lol
@@AA-zm9hk id.3 as street car
If Engine-trust {true}
Run_data/sound/mosquitos.mp3
*Violins
*guru meditation* 😂
ever heard a mosquito irl? lel
exception thrown - 'engine_sound.mp3' is missing.
I laughed out loud to hard damn. Bzzzz gang
Average speed was close to 200kph. Having in mind that top speed was only ~250 this laptime is INSANE.
I take it as your point is that the top speed is too low
@@vika0194 but average speed is hella close to top speed and that's crazy
I read somewhere that they had to make the topspeed 250 because the battery cant last a whole lap otherwise
Top speed was 272/3 kph in one of the downhill sections 2:31 but you're right, on the straight it suffered.
An overdrive gear would have seen then smash 6mins easily.
@finlay morrison You think a car that did Pikes Peak, 20kms of hairpins and hill climbing in 7 mins 57 sec hasn't got the battery pack energy density to drive a taller gear reduction ratio or an overdrive to do the Ring in under 6 mins when it's only 5 secs off the mark already?
LMAO
I think the only "beating" you do in your "VW Polo" is beating off.
the fact that it did it in 6:05 while having a top speed of 240 km was impressive
eming 0 very much so.
270+ km/h
it was tops out about 270km/h,,, but maybe because of lower SOC battery or battery overheat,, the electric motor cut down the power/limit the top speed in the last straight line,,,
@@rianrahmanto8069 i think it was SOC, they probably sized the battery to just be big enough for the lap, to save weight. So the battery only has about 2/3 of the voltage in the end.
You didn't watch the full video bro😐
Top speed is 273km/h
nice to know the future of racing will sound like my garage door opening
Stop whining low lifer...
@@iuhshwth1634 cheer up low lifer it was a joke
For real though, future’s looking bleak. It won’t be the same
@@saverlater123 the future is now, old man
@Vinsu Karma I didn´t know that discos play V8 songs.
makes me think how unreal the 919 evo really is
Yeah.
919- 5,19 + 46s(Volks)+35s (GT2 RS MR on street legal tires), That's crazy.
I wonder what if a Senna GTR could match this car.
@@sevach the 919 looks like a car in gran turismo game around the green hell surreal but yeah talking about "real" cars we will starting seeing 6:30s times soon
@@sevach Senna GTR is doing 6:30 at absolute best
A 2019 F1 car is even faster
Filip Olofsson I think not at the Nürburgring
The music really cheapened the experience for me
Totally enhanced.
@@Strakos0 if you're a fan of electric elevator music while racing it must have been great for you🤣
Although an electric motor has a “sound”, it’s nowhere near as dramatic as an engine spinning up. It’s doesn’t have much tonal range.
I think the music compliments this perfectly, and is at just the right level - adding interest but without overpowering the sounds inside the cabin.
What else is there to hear?! The rumbling V8 sound?
I am glad that they included some music. Was about to fall asleep.
Someone know name of this music in 35 seconds?
is there an unedited version without this distracting music and the cut to the helicopter cam? just raw onboard?
u dont want to hear it lol
and at 60fps, not those 25fps suited for technology from the 60s...
Looks like we have to wait for Volkswagen Motorsport uploads..
The only time i ever expect to see a hot lap include chopper cam is on the Isle of Man or Pikes Peak. This vid bugs me more than it should,but that's just not what a hot lap at the nurburg should look like.
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Here it is
Seeing this car top out is humbling shows that there is a lot more to be had from this already amazing time
No, it shows why a transmission is needed. The motor will only spin so fast. After that, there's nothing left. With a 2 or 3 speed, the motor doesn't have to spin a top speed to get up to that velocity, and could possiby do almost TWICE that.
The future is cold and silent
@@eggbirdtherooster Ugh. I hope not. Nothing is more depressing than nothing.
Wait...😳
Bill Cichoke Making a motor that can spin faster without transmission is a better solution than a transmission
You realise electric motors can spin routinely at 30,000 rpm albeit at a smaller scale?
The music and camera changes ruined it completely. I just wanted on board footage.
100%
It's just fine.
The music definitely ruined it.
search for c3w3fVS-SgQ
cannot ruin something that's already ruined
I knew it would beat the Apollo by a mile, but an almost sub 6 minute is on ANOTHER level considering the top speed is so limited
I watched this and suddenly all moskitos from my room went dead..
This is a joke or actual shit? xD
Its better to smoke your room using the combustion out of your car...
All of them would be dead xD
What’s a Moskito?
@@larjkok1184 mosquito
😂
Thanks for the footage in the garage, I LOVE watching people watch a screen and text instead of getting to look at the actual car.
The maximum speed killed the lap.
Really hard track for the ID, beautiful performance nonetheless.
No they had to put downforce to be faster in corners,if they have set up a high top speed they would loose 1 or more minutes in the corners and gain only 4-5 sec on the straight.
@@Wayeseh They had DRS.
@@Wayeseh And top speed is not limited by power requirements from added downforce.
@@yosyp5905 Ohhhh ty btw
Battery temps were probably well into the redline
Lithium cells don't like being any hotter than 60 to 70C (140-158F) or you end up with a fireball as the cells hit thermal runaway
The pack was probably being current limited to prevent the pack from going into thermal runaway and exploding by the time it got to Döttinger Höhe.
Kudos though from one of the engineers who worked on the Nio EP9 battery systems, amazing to see such quick progress in high performance electric :)
the car was not build for highspeed. The accu cells have a own electric cooling unit. EP9 have much bigger accus, means much more weight, with more horsepower and higher speed. More weight means slower acceleration, slower apex speed and you must be earlier on the breaks.
@@muratti72muc Interesting, so went for lower weight over higher power.
Surprised a 2/3 speed box wasn't added to extend the RPM range of the motors in essence instead of 1 single ratio.
I’m Just gonna pretend I know what any of this means
@@daillyarran same here, LOL
some cells are rated for operation a 80°C. I don't know what cells VW uses in the ID.R.
Obviously, we just want onboard camera feed to feel the speed, speed conversion option, no cheap soundtrack.
Its like they were trying the formula e soundtrack to it. Why?
The fuck are you gonna feel the speed? You won’t feel the G’s either.
"The choppers are up in the air" They should've used Helicopters. Motorcycles, even with lengthened forks, aren't great at flying.
dafuq xD
Hahah nice dude!
AK47s dont fly well
epic meme dude
Hehe
Sounds like boiling water on my kitchen
Then go and move ur water
@@dragonraopen2604 how can someone be as stupid as you ?
Then your water could break a record xD
@@arvin6606 🤣🤣🤣
@@autoexpert3 how can someone be as stupid as you ?
Good driving. And a good time.
The music over the driving segment got pretty tiresome though. Is it really needed?
the car doesnt deliver a pleasant sound itself also
@@99Lezard99 you'd better get used to that mechanical whine, in the coming years, you'll only see more and more going faster and faster.
@@lootbox289 yeah youre right. 🤷♂️
The “engine“ sound of the idr sucks anyway. Does not really matter.
@@99Lezard99 I'm still more interested in the sound than the music
Congrats to all involved, and thanks for having the contest on raceroom experience and giving us all a chance to drive that amazing car on that amazing track!
This felt unreal to watch and was absolutely insane. we’re in the future lol
Sounds like the cobalt motor slot cars I used to race when I was young. I guess this is the future, but it makes me glad I lived through the golden age of internal combustion racing.
Yeah, racing in the 1950s was wild!
The car does not have an internal combustion engine. It has 4 Electric motors, 1 per wheel.
@@ninjasiren he referres to the past 50 years........around 1970 u had the first electric toy race cars...
Electro:
Romain Dumas (2019) 6.05,336
Hybrid:
Timo Bernhard (2018) 5.19,546
Internal combustion engine:
Stefan Beloff (1983) 6.11,130
Rip stefan. One
of the greatest ever
Ultimate electric car with no restriction at all (like the Red Bull X2014 concept) => Less than 5 minutes lap time.
@@WlerickBigotOfficial
It.s incredible !!
@@WlerickBigotOfficial yes....with Granturismo on PlayStation
@@andregtsvj1069 No, if this car was real, with state of the art motors and batteries (maybe in few years), it would really break the absolute record on the Nurburgring. But with today technologie, maybe 5min30 I think.
On Granturismo this car physics are totally unreal x'D The pilot would die with such cornerging speed (G force).
the tour is really impressive, congratulations to Romain Dumas and Volkswagen for this new record in the category of electric cars
@@opus_workshop ...not really. Just when you have a 21km long power cable for the electric car ;-)
Problem is that you can't build accu cells who can store more energy with the same weight. Lithium is the best element for store energy they know at the moment. Thats the big problem, more energy or longer distance means more weight and slower car.
First you must find a new chemical element on the planet that will store more energy like Lithium.
A 500kg litihum accu have the same energy like ca. 40kg fuel.
It's like someone edited out the engine sound and kept in the straight cut gears sound
Yea now u say it, that is what It sounds like
No gearbox.
Jack Dren yup, that is exactly what happened.
What a monster. To think this is only the beginning...
When Gran Turismo 4 time attacks become real.. Insane!
with Mazda 787B i did 5min49
@@Fritz2824 according to the guide, someone did a 5 minute lap with the Formula GT car if I remember right
@@tdp2612
ive not finished to race with some cars,
and my purpose isnt to beat record,
just to classify cars with a regular drive
Watch the porsche record video 5:19 absolutely insane car
Fritz2824 i did 5:48 with a fully tuned r34 skyline with qualifying tires
It's a lap on Nordschleife or a chapter of Tale of The Crypt?
In motrorsport you must kill the music!!
@UUU U I love the sound of the electric motor. So called "petrol heads" are so edgy with their engine noise stuffs.
@@endjfcar Tech nerds love EV's because they gravitate to whatever is shiny and new. Petrol heads like cars because of how complicated, and beautiful they are. The engine noise gives the car a soul. BTW the 919 EVO smashes this track time.
You're missing that being in the minority isn't equal to being wrong.
Stop with this stupid nonsense, dipshits.
It's an opinion whether you like it or not.
There's nothing else to hear beside that mosquito-like engine sound. Glad they added some music.
3min30 and he is at the carousel, and goes around the top, plus speed limiter, I smell a sub 6min time soon, great video thank you for uploading
One of my favourite YT videos of all time. Thanks vw
270 at the start and only 240 at the end, dont think he could do 2 rounds in a row,...
Mugoba yep, where they put it on the track. No chance for two laps.
I think heat is a real issue with battery performance. Same as a tesla, first max speed run is higher than the second if you don’t left the batteries cool
Once superconductor are optimized and shrunken down to be portable these cars will be very plausible. It's still impressive how far they have come with electric performance so far.
I noticed it too... In the beginning the max speed reached 272km... But that long straight near the end the max speed was only around 245km...
I don't know what happened...
can anyone explain it???
@@shintapeterson10 Heat or charge inside the battery. If the battery is too hot it has to output less current or it will damage itself. Or it could be that the battery had already lost too much charge, then the output voltage lowers aswell, a higher charge capacity would mean more weight and that's probably why they didn't used it.
Probably a mix of both isues
Sounds like a v10 formula 1car with it's engine rev increase to 50000rpm
Amazing Run, Congratulations 👌🏼
perfect line
165mph down the straight? Hold my gear.
I am so glad they didn't use the emergency alarm this time around like they did in Pikes Peak.
Smooth driving!! Insane skills
Amazing!
Looks like a lot of potential for better time in the future as max speed is 260kph only.
definitely. current battery technology is the limiting factor right now. but thats a very very active area of research.
@@PelycheeaceRA Batteries are, even as much as we've advanced, pretty damned abysmal yeah.
The main issue is coming up with a reaction that both stores a good charge difference and can charge/discharge quickly, without being incredibly volatile in the process. You short an alkaline, it'll just burst and make a mess, you short a nickle, you'll get magic smoke, you short a Li-Po you get flames.
@@DFX2KX battery development is complicated and quite unpredictable throughout.
you might come up with a promising electrochemical system, run computer simulations that show good results, but once you build your prototype almost nothing happens. turns out that during discharge, the metal doesnt deposit on the electrode in neat layers, but forms a weird moss-like structure that inhibits ion transport.
i also remember my lecturer talking about a case where reaction products would form shells around metal particles, leading to unexpectedly steep gradients in pH-value in the reaction zone.
its as frustrating as it is fascinating.
I think it's due to the gearing on the IDR set for acceleration and not top speed. The rimac concept one used a 2 speed gearbox to have essentially the best of both worlds. The IDR will probably need something similar.
3:56 automotive history is being made you dope
Huh...
@@F1ll1nTh3Blanks texting instead if witnessing history
he making sure he do the first tweet 😂
he's watching a 2020 Tesla Roadster animation going into over-heat limp mode at mile 5 at the Ring.
He was there. And where were you? ;)
Really cool!
The acceleration is spectacular!
And imagine that this is barely 5 seconds faster than Stefan Bellof in 1983... What times were those!?
The speed that thing goes through the bends is crazy
Incroyable. Bravo Mr Dumas.
Joris DABIN
Quanto mais eu vejo esses vídeos desse tipo de liquidificador sobre rodas... mais saudade me da do Grupo B de Rally... ali sim são carros e pilotos de verdade!
The time was faster than the legendary lap of Stefan Bellof of 6:11
Great Going
- A Proud Volkswagen Owner
I want see Electric 24H race :D it was like....1h racing -6h charging :D
@Dr.Science in formula e thy change cars, battery changing i dont think its possible. Its not a normal battery
nah they will use like 6 different ccars
Cool sound
Wow amazing stuff well done team VW
Klingt wie ein Tinnitus...
Hört sich doch kaum anders an als die gerade verzahnten Getriebe in den üblichen Rennfahrzeugen.
The noise is really annoying. It sounds like my washer on spin cycle....
Thats how Electric Motors sound. Get used to it there will be more.
get over it, this is the future...
besides tons of people think that sound is super cool
@@fordgalaxiefanclub7733 And for those who want it to make more noise, put someone in the passenger seat :)
@@fordgalaxiefanclub7733 What? Compared to a V8? A flat 12?
Grow up.
Super Driver in Nurburgring Road and it's fantastic creative rider keep it up keep doing with another and have a good day...
Amazing lap, time to be found on the straights!
It's really wonderful how the motorsport industry changed. That car, apart from its incredible aesthetics, was taken advantage of 100% by its pilot. Simply amazing.
I really dont know what you are trying to say.
Ragnotti used 110% of the renault williams rally cars
Colin mc Rae with his subaru
Marquez uses 100% of his honda
Rea 100% of his kawasaki
Every some time, some driver uses or has used 100% of what his vehicle could give.
Ever since racing existed.
and how do you know this was at 100%?? to know what's 100%, you need to go over it once, something Marquez does on purpose in training... so he knows in race and qualify whats 100% at that track with that bike with that weather
@@lillnemo1 "I get up every day and I give 100% of me.", take it that way. We are not all fans of your type and take it easy buddy :v
Yes on the outside the Sound gets kinda lost, cause e-engines are more or less silent, but the inside sound. Love it.
There is no such thing as an E engine its not an engine at all its an electric motor it converts stored electrical energy to rotational force, an Engine manufactures it's own power using Fuel, Air and Ignition source.
those lines though...such beauty to watch
This car is a record breaker and a company saver. This thing rescued the vw racing team and broke this record, pikes peak unlimited overall record, and almost broke the goodwood record. The scream of those motors is like that of a phoenix rising from the ashes.
Imagine the absolutely insane time this could get if something was done about that low top speed. It'd destroy everything else.
Maybe some "more" hydraulic Aero losing some downforce on the long straight - I do not know much about this car so I can't say how adaptable the aero is.
But it was doing more like 253 Km/H on a part on the first section, so perhaps the batteries was somewhat drained at then end straight - idk?.
But darn the corners speeds are nuts.
So... In the end was all about, low tork and high aerodynamic settings.
Oh to be that driver... what a feeling.
Sound good
who else likes to just hear the car without music when racing irl, games, watching vids, etc?
240km/hr along the back straight definitely shows the limitations of current battery technology. Soon as that catches up that thing will be a weapon.
what
Brutal!
I just love the sound of that V8!
lol
By its cornering speeds it would have been on par with the 919 evo if its top speed had been better in straights (I mean, way better) ... Still, beating Bellof's record without even crossing 275 kph is a huge performance
Bellof was just built differently…..
Imagine if it had a higher top speed! It was painfully limited on the straights
I had a feeling it could do sub six-5mins with the speed limit removed
The sound that thing makes is hauntingly beautiful
That’s some insane camera stabilization on that bumpy track.... :)
Why ruin it with the music? Can't keep watching it...
Anibal Cheble cause no engine
@O(∩_∩)O Yes, the fairies are called Electri's. They come from a small city in Germany called Electri City
can't ruin something that's already ruined
Someone knows the name of this music in 35 seconds?
@@nixxxon18 well, I happen to like any kind of mechanical noises, even electric ones. Particularly if they come from something this fast.
Congrats on replacing porsche 956c being 2nd fastest after the porsche 919evo!!!
6.11 vs 6.05 vs 5.19
919evo in not fully electric so ID.R is in another competition.
@@forgettd I'm talking about the literal fastest lap time right now
My New Favorite Car
Never thought that watching a nurb lap could be boring
"Unquestionably the toughest race track in the world"
Snaefell Mountain Course: Hold my 219 corners.
Einfach mega geil!
Riesen Respekt an Romain Dumas!
Das KFZ sieht in der Grünen Hölle so verdammt gut aus.
Wow this would be my dream job.
Thank you Volkswagen,very cool!
Is this a Lupo 3L ?
The squeal comes from 300 mice that pedal real hard inside the "engine" compartment.
the max speed on the straight cost them time but other then that it's the best formula to make a race car : great acceleration ,low center of gravity , lightweight and great cornering abilities JUST WOW , CAN'T WAIT TO SEE WHAT THE FUTURE WILL LOOK LIKE .
Thanks for covering this, and it is fantastic that VW is advancing the engineering sciences, just as the multi-stakeholder co-operative that Porsche Design and the German Labour Front had intended in the 1930s.
1: It seems to use one gear. Is this accurate?
2: What is the horse power and torque?
3: Is the power constant or is there a HP and torque curve??
4: fascinating.
1. There's no need for gears in electric car, it's power is constant
How fast can they do 2 Laps? 2 Hours?
porpably
This may not be the most exciting car but it's definetly the *spookiest*
I was trying out the challenge in raceroom, what a experience!
Battery must have died off it went from doing 272 kph to 242kph what happened there?
If it's anything like the RC cars I used to race, it could either be introduced by heat in the motors, or more likely, a battery saving feature. Heat robs electric motors of power, and a lot of it. Without knowing the battery technology in the car off hand, it could go either way. I do know that with Hybrid racing cars, if you lose that battery power, you lose your acceleration power. Stands to reason it's a battery saving feature intended for longer runs. Notice it was able to hit 260kph after heavy braking which is regenerative on most hybrids and electric cars.
I see electric cars more as 1:1 scale RC vehicles - They use the same concepts and principles, just different technologies and larger parts. If you found a 1:10 scale VW ID.R RC car, 27kph would be the correct scale speed. Though, who wants an RC that does 27kph? 160kph is where it's at. (Rough estimating, I'm from the US so my speed conversion is a little off-center from what it should be; the Traxxas XO-1 RC is capable of 100mph out of the box with option components; I believe a 6s LiPo battery and a massive brushless electric motor and highly durable Electronic Speed Controller to match the car's size and power; the XO-1 is actually roughly 1:7.5 scale.
The motor whine makes me want to shove ice picks in my ears
It's actually most likely gear whine..
@121bham It actually is
@121bham Thats false
Do it.
omg crazy acceleration
honestly after the first 3 corners my unbelieving stare didnt end till the end because of how fast it goes in and out of these corners gg vw
Considering top speed of 250 this is really fast.
250km/h is pretty fast, but it could go well faster
@@daillyarran its actually not fast at all. Most somewhat fast production cars these days can hit that speed. It needs at least another 75 kph
The Porsche 919 Hybrid Evo did it in 5 min 19 s 546 with 369,4 km/h top speed
@@thecrackerboy thats why it was 46 seconds faster lol
@@bruh-uy3vn without it's electric engine the time would be a lot slower
@@semiedgv without its combustion engine it would be a TON slower
enters the curve with a crazy speed .... seems to be on rails: incredible
Dieser Sound :3
That EV sounds like a devil whining. Awesome!
And mad respect to the driver. He shows that he won Lemans 24h 4 TIMES!
Am Ende hat der Akku aber bereits mächtig nachgelassen.
Vlt. ist der auch zu heiß geworden
HOLY CRAP
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