Over the GT Dark Horse has More HP Forged connecting rods Different rod bearings Different cams Uniquely Balanced crank Different engine tuning Different springs and shock tuning Tremec Oil cooler Diff cooler Trans cooler Different aero, different front bumper with actual non fake vents and a splitter, upgraded spoiler with gurney flap 6 piston brembo brakes with notorious blue paint Bigger sway bars Unique wheels Trefeo RS tires Hand painted stripes Custom color Dark horse badging and illuminated Darkhorse projection at night Titanium shift knob Black, larger exhaust tips Upgraded interior with dark accents and indigo stitching Exclusive approach lighting
Definitely you can hear the difference in cams it's slightly bigger than the GTs but now on my Darkhorse I put my new exhaust the outlaws from flow master and you can hearing some loping sounds really good. !
Plus Recaro seats save 36 pounds between the 2 seats compared to the seats that are heated and cooled. If you watched the S650 reveal back in the Fall of 2022 they stated that the Recaro seats were coming equipped with heated/cooled capabilities. However the car was becoming way too heavy so they ditched those seats to save 36 pounds.
As a diehard Ford fan and soon-to-be customer, I love that the gauge clusters look something right out of one of the Need for Speed games I played as a kid back in the early 2000s lol. So can't wait to get this bad girl myself one of these days, whether new or used!!!
The only thing I can think of as to why someone would get the DH instead of the GT is strictly for resale value. The GTs will be a dime a dozen in a few years and if you have a specialty model like the DH or the previous gen’s Mach1 it depreciates way less than just a regular production model. But I mean it’s 70K so might still be too much 🤷🏻♂️
exactly why I ordered a DH here in Europe, even though my 2015 GT still had a good resale value of 29k (for 45k miles). I weant for the DH as it is more likely to hold its value better, especially with stronger emission regulations here.
If you also look very closely at the bottom of the back windshield you'll notice all the generations of the Mustang up until now being displayed on there. Yet another really wicked cool little member berry / detail in the Dark Horse. Really makes this feel like Ford's own version of Chevy's 'Collector's Edition' Camaro variant!
4:28 I'm 6 foot with long legs and I'm fine in my 2020 mustang... Though I'm used to much smaller cars like a 200X tundra back seats, 2009 CR-V, 2021 RAV4 and jyes even a 2003 Suberban... Like you can back the front seats of a mustang all the way and have rolls roche levels of leg room or have the front seats much closes similar to those other vehicles and still have as much room as a suberban.
I think it all depends on what you want to do with the car. I recently test drove the Base GT, GT Premium with the Performance Pack, and the Dark Horse. Budget wise go with the Base and refine it to your likes. All in good with the Dark Horse it is amazing car despite people beating up on it, yes a bit pricey but look to the new Shelby prices. Mid range the Premium with Performance Pack and other key options is a good value. The DH manual trans is what I liked.
It is obvious that you didn’t do enough homework on this car before you accomplished this biased review!!! You barely touched on the significance of the upgraded engine; components that are not even in the GT-350. This is a performance sports car and you compared it to a luxury Lexus LC500. Night and day difference between the cars. The LC 500 will be broken in a few areas after 10 laps at 9/10th of power racing the car. Save your comments for manual verses auto tranny. Try commuting in Washington DC where the walkers pass you by in stop and go traffic twice per day. I am betting that you are younger than 45 years old. Many reasons to get the automatic when one is older. Do you understand the history of the Mustang regarding the ability to customize the interior lighting? Have you ever owned a Mustang? There is zero weight savings in having or not having the heated steering wheel as opposed to saving 36 pounds on the Recaro seats w/o heated/cooled seats. Do you understand why Ford built the Mach E Mustang? CAFE laws allowed building the V8 engine that doesn’t meet CAFE requirements due to the offset by offering the Mach E Mustang. That’s why Ford is still offering the V8 unlike GM & Dodge. The Mach E saved the V8. Try building cars with the Government on your back!!! The fix to the seat belt is to remount the plastic guide upside down and then it will hold the seat belt. The most enhanced MOD on a Mustang over its history is the exhaust. The majority owners replace the suitcase resonator with a $300 dollar H-pipe or X-pipe. It was very difficult to listen to your review. More background information/homework required to properly review the Dark Horse. You should have read up on the automatic 10R80. A combined design by FORD & GM for track use. You left out the coolers that allow you to drive the DH all day in hot weather on the track. Something that my Corvettes have difficulty doing. Screw Lexus, it does last at all if you drive it hard like us Mustang owners drive our GT cars, etc.
You sound like a 12 year old who is clueless about cars. Do research and understand the engine first. Talk to really good performance shops as well. For somebody claiming or implying on buying a dark horse and then dropping 10k on it, you sound clueless and ignorant.
Sad you didnt get one with a manual. Get a red dark horse manual if you can some time. That is the spec I would want. The manual transmission in the Dark Horse is superior to the one in the GT, honestly I wish they did not offer the auto in the Dark Horse. The manual Dark Horses will hold their value better sadly when I want to get a used one in 10-20 years.
I’m glad they offer a auto cause personally I sometimes just want to chill and not have to worry about shifting and if I want to have fun I can shift with the back paddles, plus the manuals don’t come with remote start or remote rev😢
I'm not sure why we can't have it all with American manufactureers. With this car, no DCT automatic? Even the Korean Elantra N offers an amazing DCT. If you go to the C8 Stingray, you get that DCT. Butthen you have the old pushrod V8 unless you pay 150k for the Z06. The Mustang offers that dual independent variable cam timing coyote engine and the darkhorse gives you the Tremmec MT while the GT has the MT-82, which is okay, not great or awful. Pick a good option and know you don't get it all with any American car unless you are spending a lot of money. For me, the delers mark the darkhorse up 5k or more while the GT can be had a few k under sticker so it is GT Premiup performance pack loaded with mag ride and suspension aftermarket upgrades and a whipple kit. I will only be 80k into the build getting what I want...still no Tremmec.
T h a n k s f o r s h a r i n g. Ford did well with this one and all the mustangs since 2015. It’s fast. Sounds awesome. Comfortable. Convenient as a daily.
Hmmmm.. Lexus exhaust note is thinner and wispy.. a bit 12 cylinder almost. DH has a much more deep and fatter exhaust note and better for me. Finally got my DH after 9 months (live in Dubai and they're only shipping autos here, I persuaded them to special order a manual but had to wait!!) and it is great. Handling is super, manual box is really really satisfying and the brakes are just phenomenal 😛 It is a bit overpriced in my opinion but, I just can't stop smiling when I drive it and it may well be the last of the V8s before we're all forced into driving iPhones on wheels so, I'm taking it while I can!!!
The Pirellis keep it GLUED to the road. They don't even squeal. Watch Throttle House where the Dark Horse outperforms the Mach 1 on their track. Please stay informed.
You should buy two cars! Get this in a six speed manual and get a Miata six speed manual and that way you can learn on the Miata and then when you’re ready, you can start driving the dark horse! Problem solved!😂
Their lower end stuff like the Fiesta, Pinto and even the Focus yeah I couldn't agree more haha! But not their higher end models like the F-150, Raptor, Mustang, etc. Those are the cream of the crop. It's a common misconception, but unlike their true lower end models like the Fiesta and Focus, Ford trucks and Mustangs can actually last a very, VERRY long time with minimal issues other than your usual average maintenance problems. If you take the proper care of those cars, you'll have only little problems with them, just like almost any other car out there. Fords can also last a lifetime if given that essential care and respect.
Over the GT Dark Horse has
More HP
Forged connecting rods
Different rod bearings
Different cams
Uniquely Balanced crank
Different engine tuning
Different springs and shock tuning
Tremec
Oil cooler
Diff cooler
Trans cooler
Different aero, different front bumper with actual non fake vents and a splitter, upgraded spoiler with gurney flap
6 piston brembo brakes with notorious blue paint
Bigger sway bars
Unique wheels
Trefeo RS tires
Hand painted stripes
Custom color
Dark horse badging and illuminated Darkhorse projection at night
Titanium shift knob
Black, larger exhaust tips
Upgraded interior with dark accents and indigo stitching
Exclusive approach lighting
Definitely you can hear the difference in cams it's slightly bigger than the GTs but now on my Darkhorse I put my new exhaust the outlaws from flow master and you can hearing some loping sounds really good. !
No heatimg or cooling in the seats because you jave recardo seats in orginal there is.
@@Johndoe-qn9jr I have heated and cooled seats in my Dark Horse the seats still have the blue accents and stitching and so on.
What about gt performance ?
Hell, yes! Let's be friends! 🐐😎🎉
Nights like this you must love your job! May the ICE Mustang live forever!!
It doesn't have ventilated/heated seats because it's recaro racing seats. everything seat wise is manual.
Plus Recaro seats save 36 pounds between the 2 seats compared to the seats that are heated and cooled. If you watched the S650 reveal back in the Fall of 2022 they stated that the Recaro seats were coming equipped with heated/cooled capabilities. However the car was becoming way too heavy so they ditched those seats to save 36 pounds.
@@gordydexter2615 save money mostly
AMERICAN muscle. Forget a freakin' Lexus.
"This looks like a video game to me"
It was made in a video game engine, literally
Fantastic looking car. Wish Lexus had interface as sleek as this.
No wonder it looks just like it came right out of one of the newest Need for Speed titles! I love that haha
The reason you don’t have heated seats it’s because you have Recaro seats my friend. Recaro seats are not heated or cooled.
The STIs had heated and cooled Recaro seats and they started at 40k
@cpal1871 Recaro does have heated and/or cooled seats. Just not here.
@@steve8803 correct
Another reason why I like my Darkhorse it has heated and cooled seats !
I like this trim more than the mach 1 we had in the previous gen
I love my 24 GT with the performance package. Once you drive one you'll fall in love with it.
As a diehard Ford fan and soon-to-be customer, I love that the gauge clusters look something right out of one of the Need for Speed games I played as a kid back in the early 2000s lol. So can't wait to get this bad girl myself one of these days, whether new or used!!!
I’m now 16 years old and i want my future car mustang dark horse and i hope i can get it in future when i’ll be 18🙏🏻
(sorry for my bad english)
The only thing I can think of as to why someone would get the DH instead of the GT is strictly for resale value. The GTs will be a dime a dozen in a few years and if you have a specialty model like the DH or the previous gen’s Mach1 it depreciates way less than just a regular production model. But I mean it’s 70K so might still be too much 🤷🏻♂️
Also if you just want your car stock.
exactly why I ordered a DH here in Europe, even though my 2015 GT still had a good resale value of 29k (for 45k miles). I weant for the DH as it is more likely to hold its value better, especially with stronger emission regulations here.
@@NicoMCH666 that’s smart and cheers man enjoy your new car! 🚗
@AustinBruner still waiting on it 😅 ordered back in February, the first ones are arriving at the delearships now.
The reason is tremac 6 speed. The only reason. It’s the only mustang with it and will be a special item someday
Can wait for more American made reviews, Kirk 👍🏻
If you also look very closely at the bottom of the back windshield you'll notice all the generations of the Mustang up until now being displayed on there. Yet another really wicked cool little member berry / detail in the Dark Horse. Really makes this feel like Ford's own version of Chevy's 'Collector's Edition' Camaro variant!
The dash display looks like you're day trading😂 for a sports car this is not a look you want
For me, definitely. It’s targeted to the younger generation. Wasn’t alive to live the old mustang layout😂
You can’t get heated seats with the optional Recaro bucket seats.
4:28 I'm 6 foot with long legs and I'm fine in my 2020 mustang... Though I'm used to much smaller cars like a 200X tundra back seats, 2009 CR-V, 2021 RAV4 and jyes even a 2003 Suberban... Like you can back the front seats of a mustang all the way and have rolls roche levels of leg room or have the front seats much closes similar to those other vehicles and still have as much room as a suberban.
They should have framed the Dark Horse face with a horseshoe.
I think it all depends on what you want to do with the car. I recently test drove the Base GT, GT Premium with the Performance Pack, and the Dark Horse. Budget wise go with the Base and refine it to your likes. All in good with the Dark Horse it is amazing car despite people beating up on it, yes a bit pricey but look to the new Shelby prices. Mid range the Premium with Performance Pack and other key options is a good value. The DH manual trans is what I liked.
When switching from automatic to manual mode can you shift plus and minus on the center gear shifter or only on the steering wheel paddles?
I would assume you can cause if I recall most cars do it that way, but I don’t know for sure
Not to be a troll cause i am not!! The Bullitt 19-20 has the mt-82 getrag. So you must have liked it when you drove that Bullitt. Look it up.
Yup! Thanks
Mach1 and gt350 have Bullitt. So getrag is decent enough!
The recardo seats aren’t heated
Mach one with tremec is the thing to buy now
It is obvious that you didn’t do enough homework on this car before you accomplished this biased review!!! You barely touched on the significance of the upgraded engine; components that are not even in the GT-350. This is a performance sports car and you compared it to a luxury Lexus LC500. Night and day difference between the cars. The LC 500 will be broken in a few areas after 10 laps at 9/10th of power racing the car. Save your comments for manual verses auto tranny. Try commuting in Washington DC where the walkers pass you by in stop and go traffic twice per day. I am betting that you are younger than 45 years old. Many reasons to get the automatic when one is older. Do you understand the history of the Mustang regarding the ability to customize the interior lighting? Have you ever owned a Mustang? There is zero weight savings in having or not having the heated steering wheel as opposed to saving 36 pounds on the Recaro seats w/o heated/cooled seats. Do you understand why Ford built the Mach E Mustang? CAFE laws allowed building the V8 engine that doesn’t meet CAFE requirements due to the offset by offering the Mach E Mustang. That’s why Ford is still offering the V8 unlike GM & Dodge. The Mach E saved the V8. Try building cars with the Government on your back!!! The fix to the seat belt is to remount the plastic guide upside down and then it will hold the seat belt. The most enhanced MOD on a Mustang over its history is the exhaust. The majority owners replace the suitcase resonator with a $300 dollar H-pipe or X-pipe. It was very difficult to listen to your review. More background information/homework required to properly review the Dark Horse. You should have read up on the automatic 10R80. A combined design by FORD & GM for track use. You left out the coolers that allow you to drive the DH all day in hot weather on the track. Something that my Corvettes have difficulty doing. Screw Lexus, it does last at all if you drive it hard like us Mustang owners drive our GT cars, etc.
That color and black are the only two colors that look good with the dark horse.
Red
Black is not good for a summer car. Everybody loves mine in Vapor Blue Metallic.
Red would be a very close second, but even that looks a little off putting. Black is the best!
That’s exactly what I said, that black plastic looks horrible unless it’s those colors I mentioned in my earlier comment! Bam!
Can the engine and transmission handle it if i do some adjustments buy one of the pakage for 10k that gives me 800horsepowers ? Thank you
You sound like a 12 year old who is clueless about cars. Do research and understand the engine first. Talk to really good performance shops as well. For somebody claiming or implying on buying a dark horse and then dropping 10k on it, you sound clueless and ignorant.
The Tremec manual makes the Dark Horse upgrade worth it to me at least.
I saw a couple of police on the left…lol
So, You are saying that WE should Buy a Manual, Overall 🤣😀? Better Driving impressions 😎😍.?!!
Mustang needs to make a 6.2L coyote supercharged V8
Sad you didnt get one with a manual. Get a red dark horse manual if you can some time. That is the spec I would want. The manual transmission in the Dark Horse is superior to the one in the GT, honestly I wish they did not offer the auto in the Dark Horse. The manual Dark Horses will hold their value better sadly when I want to get a used one in 10-20 years.
I’m glad they offer a auto cause personally I sometimes just want to chill and not have to worry about shifting and if I want to have fun I can shift with the back paddles, plus the manuals don’t come with remote start or remote rev😢
The wide wheels are the best part.
You have to know to haggle with dealerships.
I got a deal on my dark horse 60 k out the door but I put 19.5k down from my trade it and made out with a 45k loan on my dark horse
I prefer the Mach 1 over this any day.
I'm not sure why we can't have it all with American manufactureers. With this car, no DCT automatic? Even the Korean Elantra N offers an amazing DCT. If you go to the C8 Stingray, you get that DCT. Butthen you have the old pushrod V8 unless you pay 150k for the Z06. The Mustang offers that dual independent variable cam timing coyote engine and the darkhorse gives you the Tremmec MT while the GT has the MT-82, which is okay, not great or awful. Pick a good option and know you don't get it all with any American car unless you are spending a lot of money. For me, the delers mark the darkhorse up 5k or more while the GT can be had a few k under sticker so it is GT Premiup performance pack loaded with mag ride and suspension aftermarket upgrades and a whipple kit. I will only be 80k into the build getting what I want...still no Tremmec.
I am getting a ford mustang dark horse base model not the premium with recaro seats for 56k
The Recaros are awesome. Just remember to reach LOW for the seatbelt (with your left hand). Have fun!!
@@mikemet1744 thank you. I plan on getting it this year in Christmas or beginning of next year.
It’s a lot of powa!
The raccoon comment cracked me up
T h a n k s f o r s h a r i n g.
Ford did well with this one and all the mustangs since 2015.
It’s fast. Sounds awesome. Comfortable. Convenient as a daily.
That break is for drifting
That's not a normal parking brake it's a drift brake
Hmmmm.. Lexus exhaust note is thinner and wispy.. a bit 12 cylinder almost. DH has a much more deep and fatter exhaust note and better for me. Finally got my DH after 9 months (live in Dubai and they're only shipping autos here, I persuaded them to special order a manual but had to wait!!) and it is great. Handling is super, manual box is really really satisfying and the brakes are just phenomenal 😛 It is a bit overpriced in my opinion but, I just can't stop smiling when I drive it and it may well be the last of the V8s before we're all forced into driving iPhones on wheels so, I'm taking it while I can!!!
You were🥶at 13:00 with 🚔🚓👍🏼. I’d rather a LC500 with the top down to cruise. 💯 21:34
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race seats dont have heaters duh
Cool
Damn should have gotten a manual transmission 😢
Kirk, those "cool" animations are massively annoying when trying to switch modes quickly. there's a ton of lag between gauge cluster settings
Nope. Mine is immediate.
Might have to get yours re-calibrated then. See what Ford can do, if anything brotha!
I’d get the lc500 over the dark horse automatic but not over the manual or if it still exists, the Shelby gt500.
A ford!
Xo it
Styling wise this is a huge downgrade compared to a gt350 or even a mach1. Hard pill to swallow
255s/275s are WEAK for this car....my Mach 1 HP has 325s/305s
The Pirellis keep it GLUED to the road. They don't even squeal. Watch Throttle House where the Dark Horse outperforms the Mach 1 on their track. Please stay informed.
Hp mach 1?
Handling Package
I would pick an IS500 any day I think over a Mustang.
This car needs to go on a diet and get to 3400lbs. That would fix the handling so it doesn’t feel like a Mazda SUV
Handling was great. The steering feel is numb.
hi all, watch MikeCarInfo videos on the Dark Horse, far way better video and informative than this video, this review is not the greatest.
Im so tired of hearing people refer to "Batman" are you 11? Like, huh. That sounds so stupid and cringe.
You should buy two cars! Get this in a six speed manual and get a Miata six speed manual and that way you can learn on the Miata and then when you’re ready, you can start driving the dark horse! Problem solved!😂
Mustang is not more difficult to drive. It is actually easier because revmatch on manual. Just need to learn to control right foot lol 😊
Nope, slower and cost more than my m2😂
This thing is faster than the M4 on VIR last I checked. Also if I’m not mistaken the slower Camaro 1le also runs circles around the m2 🤷🏾♂️
Ford is trash 😂 period
Their lower end stuff like the Fiesta, Pinto and even the Focus yeah I couldn't agree more haha! But not their higher end models like the F-150, Raptor, Mustang, etc. Those are the cream of the crop. It's a common misconception, but unlike their true lower end models like the Fiesta and Focus, Ford trucks and Mustangs can actually last a very, VERRY long time with minimal issues other than your usual average maintenance problems. If you take the proper care of those cars, you'll have only little problems with them, just like almost any other car out there. Fords can also last a lifetime if given that essential care and respect.