The video clip of Trish going off on Josh - was within a week or so of Colleen and Trish making a muk bang together on Colleen's channel and at one point Colleen said to Trish after coming back from a short bread in filming and said " so now you know the truth about our breakup Trish" so yeah Colleen fed her info - then Josh made a video not aimed at anyone and Trish took it personal like he was talking about her. I really did and do not think he was thinking of Trish but she sure assumed so and let loose with a bunch of things that could have only come from Colleen and were not true. Colleen has used her from the start of their "friendship" I stopped watching Colleen there and then.
I'm a day late so I don't know if you'll see this but I think Jonny's end goal could be just to relate to people to the point where he could have friends and that those friends wont leave. Like Jonney got bullied in school to the point where he dropped out and one of the ways that people cope with it is by making friends and being the bigger person so that they wont leave them. Jonny got left behind by everybody (Josh, colleen, school friends etc) so them having the one up/ struggling with worse things than their 'Friends' they would be the most important and not overlooked. Idk its just my quick idea
Swoop deserves a vacation after all the work she did. Her and her team did an amazing job. You don't see many channels put that much effort into what they did
Swoop deserves for someone to figure out how to clone another Swoop so that the origional Swoop could take a month long vacation on a beach without feeling guilty about her channel, her community and her team being left hanging for so long.
Johnnys goal was to make himself a victim. Because the victims are the ones getting the attention. And as disgusting as it sounds, thats what Johnny wanted.
I think that he also wants a job as a content creator or in show business, big time. The level of rage he expressed was frightening in one of his videos about Colleen and how it is, somehow, her fault that he is a bartender.
Yep. When Ethan and Olivia said "Oh, he IS a TH-camr...or he's trying to be," I could just imagine how that probably burned him. He's so butthurt that Josh didn't make him famous, and I think he's just jumping on the Ballenger hate train to try to get revenge against Josh for 1) not making him famous, and 2) not returning his obviously inappropriate feelings of attachment. It really stuck out to me how he and his family kept turning up at his place of work. That's stalker behavior.
I think they meant more what’s the end goal to all of it, including making himself a victim. What did he want to gain out of trying to be a victim and lying? Most likely, attention and sympathy
@@bludbrat It was on John's channel - one of the video's where he was basically copying Adam's format. I'm sorry I don't know exactly which one or if it is still posted.
Josh isn’t perfect nor has he said he is, but he is a good person and did not deserve any of the hate or awful, horrible, sad thoughts he had which led to him drinking. So glad he is doing better now.
Yea, i mean even the things he did do that i would call weird, he definitely changed and grown since then.. it makes me wonder if the things hes previously has done is only because of colleen
We are NOT going to put time limits on when victims are “allowed” to speak about what happened to them. We will not be like John. We will be better and we will do better. Trisha and every other victim has every right to talk about their stories as much or as little, as long or as briefly as THEY want to. Part of victimization is losing control of what happens to you. Sharing your story however, whenever, and to whatever extent you want is part of taking that power back and mitigating (NOT erasing) the harm done.
While Swoop and D'Angelo Wallace have some similarities in the sense that they both create captivating deep dives into situations, Swoop's content is more of an investigation, where D'Angelo's content is more of a video essay. I'd say they're in different lanes, but there are parallels and both make fantastic content.
In my opinion (based on what I’ve seen) I think Johnny was either obsessed with Josh or extremely infatuated by him. He also saw two TH-camrs who could help him build his brand. School didn’t work out for him and he wanted to be a big TH-camr too. When he didn’t get the attention he wanted he felt slighted. But it’s not that cut and dry because Josh made big mistakes too. He probably saw this young “depressed” kid and felt for him (we know he struggled with his own depression). Now that the Toxic Gossip Train is rolling through the station he (Johnny) thought he could jump aboard and kill two birds with one stone (vengeance against Josh and to chase that big TH-camr dream). I think he was hoping that Josh would admit to “grooming” him or his following would get to whatever size he wanted and then just continue make up and talk about drama. Idk let me know what y’all think. *made some edits to the original post because people made a good point of not calling it love but an obsession with Josh!
Right from the first video I saw of Johnny, that was the vibe I got. Him talking about Josh's apology and acting like it was not enough when it was probably the best apology any TH-camr would give any fan was ridiculous and showed Johnny's true vendetta. It was the same way you act towards an ex who left you for someone else or a crush who never gave you the attention you wanted
Okay, this is the best take I've seen. 💯👏🏾 It totally seemed like John was hoping Josh would reciprocate his feelings for him. And falling out with Colleen just presented the perfect opportunity to exploit.
I remember watching the interview that Do We Know Them did with Johnny, and I distinctly remember Johnny casually glossing over things like "yeah so Josh posted a picture and I could figure out the restaurant that he was at from the background in the photo so I tracked down his location or whatever". Like he would talk about all of these interactions that he had with Josh but any time they asked him "oh, so like how did you guys meet up? Did he ask you to meet?" he would stutter and would super quickly gloss over the fact that he tracked his location down, and did it multiple times. I watch every single one of their podcasts and I love Jessi and Lily, but that was the first podcast that I was never able to finish. I thought that I was crazy for feeling weird about Johnny because everyone was so on board with his story and I didn't want to be on the wrong side of a victim situation so I never said anything about it. But looking back now, I feel so validated lol!
Swoop did an awesome job on her doc. I was fully captivated, and I didn't realize it was almost 4 hours long.. i was actually upset when it ended.. and am excited for the next. She and her team are so detail oriented and thorough.
I believe that Johnny's end goal was to be on top. He clearly has a strong desire for attention, and if he'd been in the Colleen/Miranda fandom longer than you had then it would possibly cause him to feel betrayed when Colleen's attention turned toward you. Additionally, the attention was still on you after you came out to speak about your experiences with Colleen. Granted that it wasn't good attention considering you weren't believed and were slandered in 2020, but to people like Johnny, any attention is good attention. And now when things are turning around and the entire internet is speaking about Colleen, you're getting attention again. I know that fame may not have been his only goal but it certainly was the driving force behind him creating false stories and piggybacking off of real experiences.
His exact words regarding Josh was that he wanted power right? I'm pretty sure that's just what Johnny wants is power and he'll do whatever he can to get it.
@@jordandupree420I believe this too, he seems to layer his lies with his own reality. calling josh a mentor when he was calling is OWN relationships with children „mentorships“, talking about power, how it would be „cleancut“ if it was sexual only, talking about confidence in his sexuality and not wanting girls but boys… so many Freudian slips in that interview alone!
Can we point out that people like Colleen are really just the "middle men" for the pr3dat0ry people. They give them content and targets. Trisha is right about the ring of people talking to other people, and it's scary to actually think about how far that world spreads.
Why is trisha acting like her hating Josh isn't solely because colleen got in her head and filled it with bullshit? I still remember when colleen told her josh proposed with the same ring. Which again was a proven lie.
Exactly, but her admitting that is to admit that she was “close” to Colleen. She keeps claiming she didn’t have a close friendship with her up until she became a mother. She was also on stage at Miranda shows. I feel bad for Trish with they way Colleen treated her, because Colleen treated her as a joke and kept her around so she could feel superior. But I don’t get way she’s lying on the closeness of their friendship
@@yingyang2838 as much empathy as I can give her is she might be lying to herself about it too and isn’t ready to deal with the reality of it. But if she’s been honest before that’s a little less clear :/
Yes! I remember how pissed I was when she was riding hard for Colleen and talking so bad about Josh. She needs to accept that Colleen fooled her the way she fooled all her young fans and brainwashed her. Trisha owes Josh an apology too. He was manipulated by a woman he loved, got cheated on, was silenced and he STILL has to deal with this bs. She needs to have a little more grace for the guy.
I get high school mentality off of all of them. IIRC he mentioned being bullied really badly in school. Well now he gets to be one of the “cool kids” and he gets off on that
I agree, and it's also why he wasn't thinking clearly and made so many mistakes that anyone with a well devised plan would not make. When he's getting his fix, like in the Swoop interview, it's like he becomes euphoric and feels unstoppable and can't maintain the presence of mind to keep track of his story. That being said, my impression is also that he's riddled with self-loathing and anxiety, but in a way that he is largely suppressing. And he's trying to erase his unhappiness by fixating on these external sources of validation, without ever addressing the actual internal source of the problem. He probably doesn't feel like he CAN look inside because it's such a scary void of identity and a swirl of so many negative judgments about himself. So he just projects everything outwards and sources his entire self esteem externally, leaving him in precarious emotional situations.
I’m glad you brought up how Trisha dragged Josh. I never forgot about that. He didn’t deserve that. She definitely needs to add him to her list of people to apologize to.
Adam said she was clearly manipulated by Colleen, we don't need to see the outcome of that, that needs to be resolved privately between them. Besides, it was just insta stories, she didn't end his career, they were just fighting.
@BrandanTheBroker lmao so dramatic 😭 she doesn't know us, it's an internet celebrity, they're not meant to have such a deep impact on our everyday lives lol
Yes!!! She deserves way more subscribers than she currently has. Whenever I watch a video of hers, I’m always freshly surprised that she doesn’t 1M+ subscribers.
@@yuffduf It’s currently at 2.2M!!! I believe it’s her most viewed video to date which is WELL deserved. I really hope she got her monetization back on it. The fact that she and her team put in so much work on this and then YT took that away is honestly absurd. Having to put up with John for 6+ hours… she deserves every single cent possible.
Its like Johnny never truly left the fandom mentality right? Harass, discredit, lie, use people, be relentless and ruthless. He never left the Colleen fandom mentality, he never grew as a person. He just recognized that he could use the same tactics to benefit himself instead of others.
My partner and i always watch Swoops docs together, and even this one we were standing for most of it (we both have anxiety and are pacers😂) and after we watched it together, i rewatched all 3 just to make sure i didnt miss stuff. And i have ADHD and am unmedicated and usually watch everything ok 2x, and i had to watch Swoop docs on 1.5 so i could have more time to process everything😂 swoop is talented and clearly cares about her work. Ive been watching her since 2019 and im always impressed with how much effort she ALWAYS gives🙌
I feel like the situation with Johnny is A LOT simpler than people are realizing. What happened between J and J was a parasocial relationship.. Johnny was obsessed with Josh and wanted to be close to him and the easiest way was to pursue a business relationship and started trying to get Josh's attention any way he could. Once he did have his foot in the door it spiraled in his mind that he was finally close personal friends emotionally, even though Josh only gave him his phone number in the presence of his parents, at a work event, and discussed it as finally breaking into the industry. There was no point Josh tricked him he wanted more from him. Johnny realizes hes not actually going to get special attention and goes scortched earth. Josh has no clue Johnny expected more from him because that wouldve been inappropriate and hes being abused by his spouse. Its literally not even on his radar. This was a completely parasocial relationship. Josh never thought johnny was his friend, he was offering to give him business advice and Johnny tried to pervert it. Johnny has openly stated he stalked Josh multiple times now. Its not some huge mystery, johnny is an obsessed fan and feels scorned by someone he desperately believed should be in his life.
My theory on Johnny and what he wanted from this whole situation: The obvious was attention But I think it's way more than that. I am in the kpop side of fandom and I have seen highly obsessive people not get the attention they want from their idols and turn on them. They create a hate campain on that person. I think it's the same thing. He was (still is) obsessed with Josh, and he got cut off from this person he was crushing/obessing over and he took that as a massive slight against him. I think he has been sitting on this obsessive anger for years and saw his chance to take other people's trauma caused by Colleen and use it to try and take down the man who was married to her. Makes it easy for people to think if Colleen is like that, he husband could be too. He ran with it.
I knew Colleen was goating Trish into her rant against Josh! It’s wild that you confirmed that she was in the group chat telling you guys to go watch it. I think it’s interesting Trisha isn’t acknowledging this, it goes against her claims that she wasn’t “close” with Colleen. Who goes on a rant against someone’s ex out of the blue if you weren’t close to them?
@@LM.312 Trisha admitted she will do anything for money. She sees the views she gets with having Colleen in the title. Moses sent images of Trisha to a 22 year old and body shamed her and said her kitty stank. She married him!! She don’t give an F! How are people this gullible??? 😂😂😂
@@SLD-bz9so Trisha has banked off gullible people for 16 years. People have made fun of her OF for years. She loves it. She’s using this to be victim and promote her OF. Follow the money. She married a man that did exactly what Colleen did. She MARRIED the man. She don’t care. But be gullible
I’m so happy Swoop is getting all of this positive recognition. I’ve watched her for years and would binge her docs while at work and she always kept me mentally occupied. I always thought that she deserves way more than what she is given, and I hate that people don’t give things a chance when they see the duration of videos. The work she puts in is incredible and her delivery is just as amazing. I’m glad she’s speaking against these monsters.
As a woman with attachment issues (not a personality disorder but-) it’s just really nice to see Trisha’s progress. Her comment at 28:35 may seem like giving jonny an excuse, but I’m happy to see Trish explore the gray areas, the nuances, the explanations, but still holding jonny accountable, rather than black or white thinking/splitting.
I’m shocked and pissed that swoops video got demonitized. After all the hard work she and her team did for a good period of time! I’m so glad I bought a shirt and a hoodie from her. I didn’t know who she was until I saw the Johnny video. I’m a new fan of her now. Plus, I immediately fell in love with the graphic design of her new merch collection as I’m a big fan of meaningful and beautiful graphic designs of clothing.
Adam, your demeanor that you hold during these things is incredible. Not a single living international diplomat has the balance in the moment of importance that you have. You're wonderful. Genuinely
I think Johnny wants to be included and noticed. He's talked about how lonely he was in school and the Colleen fandom gave him a tribe. I think he was really shattered to have it fall apart, and he does feel like a victim. He just needed to make himself an actual victim to be included and get the attention in this that he was craving, as well as the revenge on the people that he feels hurt him.
Hey Adam, I’m never early so I thought I would comment. Your content has become something I look forward to daily, it’s so nice to see someone my own age compose themselves so maturely on the internet. Your coverage of every topic is always fair, sensible and appropriately humorous. Wishing you the best as you heal and grow 🤍
I realllyyy enjoy her podcast , Oscar is wonderful and he nevigate the topics perfectly and let her shine and speak while having the right key points , you should really watch the other episodes too this is a fun ride 💖💗
Thank you for keeping me company while I clean and getting me through the hardest part of my life. Everything is coming apart and I really appreciate you being there in your own little way.😊
Johnny gives me scorned lover vibes, like he was pissed that Josh didn’t give him the attention he wanted, and so he tried to retaliate. Plus he was mad at Swoop for not buying his B.S. after she found out about his lies. And think he tried to retaliate against Josh by leeching off of Adam. And what kills me is that Johnny screams how it’s inappropriate for adults to interact with minors, yet he was in group chats with minors, and still in group chats with minors. That is a textbook example of hypocrisy. But shout out to Swoop for doing an amazing job, like she deserves a long break after all the work she and her team put in. But it worries me that he might try to retaliate against Swoop
I just got done rewatching swoops series, and i know ive said this a hundred times probably, but my God, Adam. You really are such a strong person, and youre still a thoughtful, loving, empathetic person despite everything youve been through. Especially so much recently, i just cant even imagine the strength it would take to go through what you have❤❤❤ I found you in 2020 when you first came out about this whole shit show, and its been hard to watch all this so i cant even begin to imagine what it would be like to go through. You deserve soo much better, im so sorry so many people have let you down. ❤❤
Colleen was fueling that tirade Trisha had against Josh!! She admitted that it was because of what she "knew" from colleen! She said it in a mukbang I think? Im glad someone remembers that, Trisha was absolutely awful and it led to one of Josh's bigger meltdowns. Like she does owe him a huge apology for all that she did to torment him. Like at one point during the back and forth she even threatened HIM that she could spill the things she learned from Colleen but was only holding back bc she asked her not to! Like nah, its bc it was lies that Josh could have actually clocked and cleared his name sooner.
Yep exactly!!! Josh isn’t perfect nor has he said he is, but he is a good person and did not deserve any of the hate or awful sad thoughts he had which led to him drinking. So glad he is doing better now.
@@J97736 I've always had the softest spot in my heart for Josh over these years. As an abused person myself, sometimes you can just tell when someone is dealing with the same shit as you. He had every hallmark of an authentic victim lashing out. I was so fucking happy when he found sobriety, he deserves it 🥰
100 percent. She went to the mukbang with Colleen right before she made that rant against Josh. And that was when Trisha found out Colleen was pregnant. They for sure talked shit about Josh and Colleen told her he used the same ring for his current wife (a complete lie)
@@Ashleymhsuf927 EXACTLY!!! I was going to mention that it was the mukbang that we found out later that Colleen told Trish she was pregnant! I couldnt remember 100%, omg thank u for saying that
Because she already has like 10 videos apologizing to her on TH-cam and tiktok. Move on. When someone shows EXTREME regret and apologizes multiple times, it's time as a viewer to move on.
I never even realized swoop’s video was 4 hours because I was so into it and just never looked. I was so tired and had to make myself pause it to go to sleep lol first thing in the morning that’s the first video I clicked on to finish. When it was over my first thought was that I hope part 4 comes out quick. Such a good video, the way she laid everything out, the way she talks, her passion.. all of it. I’ve been watching swoop for a few years now and she really outdone herself with this one. I’m so happy she’s getting the praise she has deserved for so long.
7:38 Johnnys end goal was to ruin Josh. He was very obviously obsessed with Josh. He had an unrequited love that he couldn’t make work. He had likely always wanted to “get back” at Josh somehow for (truthfully, accidentally) leading him on, and this situation gave him an opportunity to do it. It’s similar to the situation between Kodee and Kory (in the way of wanting “revenge”) but Johnny actually had contact with Josh and was in love with him.
Trisha saying she doesn’t understand why more people aren’t talking about it or paying attention to the situation is wild to me. She was JUST saying in her last video how she didn’t want to pay attention and she stays out of drama. This involved her and she still wanted nothing to do with it.
She's kinda specifies in this that it's not just drama, because there are real victims. So it's not really a contradiction, more so she's also considered this just some drama. And now she doesn't understand how many people writing this situation off as just drama, now that she's invested in it.
OMG right. It is horrible that Swoop's video got demonetized. That video was SO much work. As soon as I get so extra scratch, I am going to get one of her hoodies. The girl deserves support. She takes what she does seriously, and she works hard. Love her!
Being an old fan of miranda and then being so fond of colleen when i found her doing her life in a days, this story destroyed my younger years. I was an 18-19 year old who thankfully never found the fandom! My heart goes out to all of the young adults and kids who have been traumatized by this situation. Youre an inspiration adam!! Stay strong! And swoop!😊
swoop did an amazing job so empathetic and understanding my heart broke in the first video seeing how small you were and how happy you were to be taking a picture with "Miranda" may you and your heart heal from everything that you have gone through. ❤
Colleen totally fueled that tirade that Trisha made about Josh, imo. She knew she was feeding info to someone who was mentally unhinged and that it was going to trigger her to attack him viciously. That whole thing with the engagement ring he gave his wife being the same as hers , I wholeheartedly believe that information was from Colleen.
And for people who do not know Swoop, ALL of her research and videos is top-tier. She is extremely powerful and has such tact. You should deep Dive her if you get the chance
I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again: Swoop deserves your attention. Just because you don’t want to “watch” a four hour video there’s not really an excuse for not being able to listen to it instead. She’s just as easy to listen to as she is to watch. Please give her your time.
John seems desperate enough to have done this to show Colleen- look how loyal I am I'll take the attention off you. He just seems like a very broken nasty person.
I think the thing that is special about D’Angelo is that his Shane video was one of the first of its kind in terms of impact and depth at the time. He did that video before Swoop started similar content. Her first video that matched the level of D’Angelo’s was her “Goodbye Mykie” video. D’Angelo was first.
I've experienced someone who absorbed sob stories and psychological jargon, and weaponised it into getting what they wanted. Which was part getting attention/sympathy, part getting away with stuff. Johnny went about things the exact same way. Absorbing other people's stories to be a sympathy vampire.
Trauma doesn’t have a time on it, this is a part of your story and it’s your channel to do as you want. From someone who experienced grooming multiple times as a child I’m so happy for you that you are talking, it’s not as easy as people realise, and it’s something that sits with you for life. So you talk as much as you want, your maturity, honesty and empathy is so apparent and it’s awesome to see ❤️❤️
The fact that Colleen is a narcissist Trish was being her flying monkey not realizing that's exactly what she was doing so I agree with u Adam I believe Trish didn't realize what Colleen was having her do to hurt Josh and talk down about him!
Swoop is known for her very long length content and she knows how to keep all people engaged and you can tell the the pride she has in her content. I think Trisha with all in all, Trisha has evolved so much. Maybe Malibu has helped her understand empathy and not trolling others or going on a rage posting incomprehensible videos. I am so proud of you and talking this out in detail but in your way, and I love her AITA videos and going back to your regular posting.
Honestly to me it seems like Johnny's end goal was to jump start his social media career. And he specifically clung onto Adam's coattails and paralleled their stories as much as possible to gain traction with Adam's audience and build a following. Clearly that didn't work out for him because he's not as smart as he thinks he is. He just thought he could talk his way through it and no one would ever question him. And when Adam didn't give him the attention he wanted, he turned to Trisha's nudes as plan b to get attention I guess
I bought three of her hoodies. The dedication of our favorite petty queen is unreal. She is an amazing person inside and out, her hard work, her over all message and her ability to bring the petty when it's absolutely deserved is pure gold. ❤ And her crew my lord, they are unbelievably amazing. I send swoop so much love.
I had a medical procedure and was home yesterday… between my naps (meds), I watched beginning to end. It was so well done… it made me wish there was an award to give her… true researcher, reporter and so well put together. Adam, proud of you!
I stumbled on this entire topic by accident. I'm old, I don't follow pop culture, but I'm PISSED at what has been done to Adam and the other victims and so, now, I'm all over this topic. Colleen, cheated on her husband and gaslit her audience and anyone else who would listen into thinking that Josh was the bad guy. It worked. Everyone fell for it. She did the same thing to Adam and it worked again...both times she was in the wrong and everyone believed her lies and manipulation. She didn't even have the decency to have a parting of ways with Adam, she just ghosted him and released the hounds to attack him, relentlessly. Adam reminds me, so much, of my friend who I lost when we were young during the AIDS crisis: smart, funny, and FIERCE! Colleen: Manipulation time is OVER.
i may be wrong, but, it had me thinking when Adam mentioned what’s the goal Johnny had for all this mess he created and for some reason i thought “what if Colleen reached out to Johnny to help her out to get the spotlight away from her?” since he’s acting kind of like the way Colleen did when the divorce was happening and talking nonstop about Josh. idk maybe i’m thinking about it too much >.
I did not realise it was four hours long. I watched the whole damn thing. I had stuff to do and literally postponed everything because Swoop’s video never got boring. I didnt even twig that it was four hours long. Jesus Christ.
Here's my hypothesis about Johnny; I believe Johnny was a parasocial fan of Colleen and then Josh, to the max. (For example, him showing up to shows, constantly messaging him, etc.) People who have a parasocial fixation on someone at the level Johnny appears to have will do anything they can to tie their name to the person they're fixated on, and they'll do everything they can to get acknowledgment from that person. When Josh (Again, in my opinion) perhaps recognized how attached Johnny was and distanced himself, Johnny maybe felt betrayed. Johnny accusing Josh of this incredibly heinous thing will forever tie their two names together. and not only that, Johnny gets revenge for being "abandoned", and he did get a response from Josh, he got several apologies (Not blaming Josh, of course.) I also genuinely think he never thought anyone would look at his story with the scrutiny and investigation that Swoop did, thus get away with such lies without being pressed on them. I also think fame was part of it too. He saw the traction this story was getting, and he saw that you Adam have a TH-cam channel and a Twitch stream, which (I assume) has grown somewhat since this story broke out again this year. I think he thought he could get the fame he always wanted through this story and grow his social media presence. Need it be said, I'm just a guy on the internet saying his opinion, with no qualifications in this sort of stuff, I could be completely wrong. It's just my two cents on the matter :/.
Yeah but D'Angelo was about a million times more clear about his argument. He didn't need new interviews because we have over a decade of shaen behaving grotesquely. That's why it's powerful. No one on TH-cam will be anything close to D'Angelo even to this day because he goes beyond so and so is problematic
my opinion on johnny’s motivation was that once he noticed colleen was being called out, he wanted validation for the hurt he felt (from josh not being his bff/colleen not being his ticket) and at, was kinda just dumb about the understanding of grooming, thought maybe he was a victim and this was his chance for validation, then got caught up in the whirl and of it all. i bet he realized long ago he isn’t actually a victim but felt trapped by all he had said previously. it’s just cowardly behavior resulting from insecurity
I was already a fan of Swoop, but when I saw that 4-hour video, I cringed. I figured I'd have to watch it in increments, but I actually watched every.single.second. and gave it my full attention. It didn't seem to take four hours at all. I actually caught myself talking back to the computer, lol. I think that her empathy towards the people she interviews, and even those people like Johnny is what makes her so unique and watchable. Her openness and honesty and her little injections of humor into things make her infinitely watchable. I liked her very much before this...now I flat-out _Stan_
Hi Adam!! I’m at 7:59 at the moment but I wanted to chime in on the topic of Johnny’s intention. This is entirely from what I have understood from this situation, along with my opinion so of course please correct me if I have something wrong about the story! Anyways, I’ve seen this kind of response happen before with certain people I know who have unhealthy and manipulative ways of interacting. They would be or feel victimized in some way and instead of being able to understand that another’s victimhood does not take anything from theirs, they see it as a kind of threat to their story and validity(Likely from trauma related to being repetitively invalidated). This manifested in such occurrences as having friends who had gone through things no one should go through, being met with a friend explaining their struggle with the same thing only to be shot down because they “didn’t have it as worse as them” for whatever reason. From what I was able to evaluate, it seemed like these individuals felt their status as a victim was so fragile and easily invalidated that they clinged to it any way they could, even by lying or manipulating relationships so that they could feel righteous in their victimhood.
After watching swoop's video I started thinking, what if Johnny is pushing so hard on the josh narrative to deflect the attention from Colleen so people will stop talking about her? I wonder if those two still communicate... IDK
Crazy thing is if Johnny had just let up on everything, he'd be fine right now. If he'd stopped after the first apology and moved on, I'm sure things would've been fine
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The video clip of Trish going off on Josh - was within a week or so of Colleen and Trish making a muk bang together on Colleen's channel and at one point Colleen said to Trish after coming back from a short bread in filming and said " so now you know the truth about our breakup Trish" so yeah Colleen fed her info - then Josh made a video not aimed at anyone and Trish took it personal like he was talking about her. I really did and do not think he was thinking of Trish but she sure assumed so and let loose with a bunch of things that could have only come from Colleen and were not true. Colleen has used her from the start of their "friendship" I stopped watching Colleen there and then.
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Allegedly he was or is moving. Ad revenue? $$$
I also think there's limerence for Josh.
I'm a day late so I don't know if you'll see this but I think Jonny's end goal could be just to relate to people to the point where he could have friends and that those friends wont leave. Like Jonney got bullied in school to the point where he dropped out and one of the ways that people cope with it is by making friends and being the bigger person so that they wont leave them. Jonny got left behind by everybody (Josh, colleen, school friends etc) so them having the one up/ struggling with worse things than their 'Friends' they would be the most important and not overlooked. Idk its just my quick idea
Swoop deserves a vacation after all the work she did. Her and her team did an amazing job. You don't see many channels put that much effort into what they did
People are already begging for pt4 😑
Swoop deserves for someone to figure out how to clone another Swoop so that the origional Swoop could take a month long vacation on a beach without feeling guilty about her channel, her community and her team being left hanging for so long.
@@daylight1992 Swoop shouldn't feel guilty at all and enjoy a well earned rest 🤗
@dandelion_official4812 of course they are! She heavily promoted it at the end of her doc 😂
@@erikah207 internet is so impatience 😏🤣
Johnnys goal was to make himself a victim. Because the victims are the ones getting the attention. And as disgusting as it sounds, thats what Johnny wanted.
I think that he also wants a job as a content creator or in show business, big time. The level of rage he expressed was frightening in one of his videos about Colleen and how it is, somehow, her fault that he is a bartender.
@@amykru not a bartender looking down on a car salesman 😑😑😑
Yep. When Ethan and Olivia said "Oh, he IS a TH-camr...or he's trying to be," I could just imagine how that probably burned him. He's so butthurt that Josh didn't make him famous, and I think he's just jumping on the Ballenger hate train to try to get revenge against Josh for 1) not making him famous, and 2) not returning his obviously inappropriate feelings of attachment. It really stuck out to me how he and his family kept turning up at his place of work. That's stalker behavior.
I think they meant more what’s the end goal to all of it, including making himself a victim. What did he want to gain out of trying to be a victim and lying? Most likely, attention and sympathy
@@bludbrat It was on John's channel - one of the video's where he was basically copying Adam's format. I'm sorry I don't know exactly which one or if it is still posted.
petition to start a gofundme to pay for a vacation for swoop and her team cause girl deserves it
And kittie treats ❤❤❤❤❤
@@dethmetelchik for the billing department 🐈⬛️
Buy her a double’s massage for her & her cat 😂
Yes!!!!
I think Josh deserves a vacation for all he has been through.
Swoop's 4 hour video was truly captivating and I'm glad to see that she even won over the "casual" viewers. Top Tier shit right there.
I literally power cleaned my house listening to it
@@madisonrose1576I finished a long crochet project listening to it
I played video games and watched it. It was so good i was surprised when it was over.
I was able to braid my hair to it
and micro braids take a long time 😭
Literally started watching it as I eat my breakfast and almost finishing half of what I need to do for the day when it finished lol
Josh isn’t perfect nor has he said he is, but he is a good person and did not deserve any of the hate or awful, horrible, sad thoughts he had which led to him drinking. So glad he is doing better now.
Yea, i mean even the things he did do that i would call weird, he definitely changed and grown since then.. it makes me wonder if the things hes previously has done is only because of colleen
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My sleep deprived ass thought you typed Johnny I was like EQUEEZE ME?! Hahaha nap time.
@@KelseyDrummer We stan Josh here
@@KelseyDrummer i’ve been up since 4 AM I went to bed at 1:30 AM and it is 10:30pm and I can say with 100% certainty, Same 😭😭😭😭😭
We are NOT going to put time limits on when victims are “allowed” to speak about what happened to them. We will not be like John. We will be better and we will do better.
Trisha and every other victim has every right to talk about their stories as much or as little, as long or as briefly as THEY want to.
Part of victimization is losing control of what happens to you. Sharing your story however, whenever, and to whatever extent you want is part of taking that power back and mitigating (NOT erasing) the harm done.
Very well put, thank you for sharing❤
LOVE this comment, so trauma-informed and more people need to understand this!! 💜💜
While Swoop and D'Angelo Wallace have some similarities in the sense that they both create captivating deep dives into situations, Swoop's content is more of an investigation, where D'Angelo's content is more of a video essay. I'd say they're in different lanes, but there are parallels and both make fantastic content.
Swoop also has a whole team. D'Angelo does this alone. That is quite a big difference in production.
In my opinion (based on what I’ve seen) I think Johnny was either obsessed with Josh or extremely infatuated by him. He also saw two TH-camrs who could help him build his brand. School didn’t work out for him and he wanted to be a big TH-camr too. When he didn’t get the attention he wanted he felt slighted. But it’s not that cut and dry because Josh made big mistakes too. He probably saw this young “depressed” kid and felt for him (we know he struggled with his own depression). Now that the Toxic Gossip Train is rolling through the station he (Johnny) thought he could jump aboard and kill two birds with one stone (vengeance against Josh and to chase that big TH-camr dream). I think he was hoping that Josh would admit to “grooming” him or his following would get to whatever size he wanted and then just continue make up and talk about drama. Idk let me know what y’all think.
*made some edits to the original post because people made a good point of not calling it love but an obsession with Josh!
Yes! I agree .
i believe johnny was Obsessed w josh. love doesnt make you do something so life-ruining as this :(
Right from the first video I saw of Johnny, that was the vibe I got. Him talking about Josh's apology and acting like it was not enough when it was probably the best apology any TH-camr would give any fan was ridiculous and showed Johnny's true vendetta. It was the same way you act towards an ex who left you for someone else or a crush who never gave you the attention you wanted
@@x-gate-gate-gateyes!
Okay, this is the best take I've seen. 💯👏🏾 It totally seemed like John was hoping Josh would reciprocate his feelings for him. And falling out with Colleen just presented the perfect opportunity to exploit.
Everytime Adam says that Johnny was in love with Josh, a puppy is born.
LOL 😂
I am so glad that Swoop is getting the credit she deserves for the work she is doing! I am a long ti.e fan and absolutely love her!
Me too, and I love seeing her get her laurels
This is a hard earned wave of support for her and the victims she stands for and bolsters back up! We love to see it 🎉
She did amazing, she deserves recognition for her incredible work ❤
Babe wake up Adam posted
Literally, period ❤
I’m barely awake but I’m here 🫠
So real
It’s 1am but sleep can wait
IM UP IM UP
Milo interview starts at 8:05🐈🐈
Thank you, the best interview I've ever witnessed
Hard hitting stuff! Lol
Goat🙌
🔥🔥opinions
Milo has very important things to say 😺😺😺
I remember watching the interview that Do We Know Them did with Johnny, and I distinctly remember Johnny casually glossing over things like "yeah so Josh posted a picture and I could figure out the restaurant that he was at from the background in the photo so I tracked down his location or whatever". Like he would talk about all of these interactions that he had with Josh but any time they asked him "oh, so like how did you guys meet up? Did he ask you to meet?" he would stutter and would super quickly gloss over the fact that he tracked his location down, and did it multiple times. I watch every single one of their podcasts and I love Jessi and Lily, but that was the first podcast that I was never able to finish. I thought that I was crazy for feeling weird about Johnny because everyone was so on board with his story and I didn't want to be on the wrong side of a victim situation so I never said anything about it. But looking back now, I feel so validated lol!
I LOVE SWOOP. She is sincere and works so hard to cover as much content as possible. In an honest heartfelt way and intelligent way.
She is so very human in the way she approaches her topics, it’s so refreshing to see this handled with the empathy it was always meant to be given
obsessed with milo's input. literally no one has put it better. thank you so much king
Swoop did an awesome job on her doc. I was fully captivated, and I didn't realize it was almost 4 hours long.. i was actually upset when it ended.. and am excited for the next. She and her team are so detail oriented and thorough.
As someone who is in recovery… damn… Josh is just trying to make the best amends he could to a complete asshat. I feel so bad for him.
I believe that Johnny's end goal was to be on top. He clearly has a strong desire for attention, and if he'd been in the Colleen/Miranda fandom longer than you had then it would possibly cause him to feel betrayed when Colleen's attention turned toward you. Additionally, the attention was still on you after you came out to speak about your experiences with Colleen. Granted that it wasn't good attention considering you weren't believed and were slandered in 2020, but to people like Johnny, any attention is good attention. And now when things are turning around and the entire internet is speaking about Colleen, you're getting attention again. I know that fame may not have been his only goal but it certainly was the driving force behind him creating false stories and piggybacking off of real experiences.
His exact words regarding Josh was that he wanted power right? I'm pretty sure that's just what Johnny wants is power and he'll do whatever he can to get it.
@@jordandupree420I believe this too, he seems to layer his lies with his own reality. calling josh a mentor when he was calling is OWN relationships with children „mentorships“, talking about power, how it would be „cleancut“ if it was sexual only, talking about confidence in his sexuality and not wanting girls but boys… so many Freudian slips in that interview alone!
Can we point out that people like Colleen are really just the "middle men" for the pr3dat0ry people. They give them content and targets. Trisha is right about the ring of people talking to other people, and it's scary to actually think about how far that world spreads.
So true. So, so, so true
Why is trisha acting like her hating Josh isn't solely because colleen got in her head and filled it with bullshit? I still remember when colleen told her josh proposed with the same ring. Which again was a proven lie.
Exactly, but her admitting that is to admit that she was “close” to Colleen. She keeps claiming she didn’t have a close friendship with her up until she became a mother. She was also on stage at Miranda shows. I feel bad for Trish with they way Colleen treated her, because Colleen treated her as a joke and kept her around so she could feel superior. But I don’t get way she’s lying on the closeness of their friendship
@@yingyang2838 as much empathy as I can give her is she might be lying to herself about it too and isn’t ready to deal with the reality of it. But if she’s been honest before that’s a little less clear :/
@@yingyang2838karma is funny like that bc Trisha also treated ppl this exact same way
Yes! I remember how pissed I was when she was riding hard for Colleen and talking so bad about Josh. She needs to accept that Colleen fooled her the way she fooled all her young fans and brainwashed her. Trisha owes Josh an apology too. He was manipulated by a woman he loved, got cheated on, was silenced and he STILL has to deal with this bs. She needs to have a little more grace for the guy.
Trisha talks SO fast. It’s really quite impressive.
Anyone else think that Adam is so pretty? Like a wood nymph or something.
Yesss, I agree like an ethereal being, idk how to explain it 😂. His momma is very pretty, so I’m not surprised
Yes…his eyes!
Literally he could dress as an elf from lord of the rings
Re: Johnny - there was no end goal. I truly believe the attention and notoriety is like a drug for him. And an addicts only goal is the high.
this is THE best way to explain it
I get high school mentality off of all of them. IIRC he mentioned being bullied really badly in school. Well now he gets to be one of the “cool kids” and he gets off on that
Only thing I would add is he wanted to ruin Josh. I think at one point he even talked abt Josh going to jail.
I agree, and it's also why he wasn't thinking clearly and made so many mistakes that anyone with a well devised plan would not make. When he's getting his fix, like in the Swoop interview, it's like he becomes euphoric and feels unstoppable and can't maintain the presence of mind to keep track of his story.
That being said, my impression is also that he's riddled with self-loathing and anxiety, but in a way that he is largely suppressing. And he's trying to erase his unhappiness by fixating on these external sources of validation, without ever addressing the actual internal source of the problem. He probably doesn't feel like he CAN look inside because it's such a scary void of identity and a swirl of so many negative judgments about himself. So he just projects everything outwards and sources his entire self esteem externally, leaving him in precarious emotional situations.
I'm absolutely LOVING how talkative Milo has been lately 😭❤️
omg hi! i see you in H3 chat!!!
I’m glad you brought up how Trisha dragged Josh. I never forgot about that. He didn’t deserve that. She definitely needs to add him to her list of people to apologize to.
Adam said she was clearly manipulated by Colleen, we don't need to see the outcome of that, that needs to be resolved privately between them. Besides, it was just insta stories, she didn't end his career, they were just fighting.
@BrandanTheBroker lmao so dramatic 😭 she doesn't know us, it's an internet celebrity, they're not meant to have such a deep impact on our everyday lives lol
I've been watching Swoop for years, I'm so happy to see new people discovering her ❤
Same 💙
Yes!!! She deserves way more subscribers than she currently has. Whenever I watch a video of hers, I’m always freshly surprised that she doesn’t 1M+ subscribers.
@@beathinks Did you see that part 3 has almost 2M views? 🤯
@@yuffduf It’s currently at 2.2M!!! I believe it’s her most viewed video to date which is WELL deserved. I really hope she got her monetization back on it. The fact that she and her team put in so much work on this and then YT took that away is honestly absurd. Having to put up with John for 6+ hours… she deserves every single cent possible.
Its like Johnny never truly left the fandom mentality right? Harass, discredit, lie, use people, be relentless and ruthless. He never left the Colleen fandom mentality, he never grew as a person. He just recognized that he could use the same tactics to benefit himself instead of others.
My partner and i always watch Swoops docs together, and even this one we were standing for most of it (we both have anxiety and are pacers😂) and after we watched it together, i rewatched all 3 just to make sure i didnt miss stuff. And i have ADHD and am unmedicated and usually watch everything ok 2x, and i had to watch Swoop docs on 1.5 so i could have more time to process everything😂 swoop is talented and clearly cares about her work. Ive been watching her since 2019 and im always impressed with how much effort she ALWAYS gives🙌
Im the happiest that everyone is realizing how amazing Swoop is, every video she makes I find mezmerizing, but at the cost of something truly heinous
I feel like the situation with Johnny is A LOT simpler than people are realizing. What happened between J and J was a parasocial relationship..
Johnny was obsessed with Josh and wanted to be close to him and the easiest way was to pursue a business relationship and started trying to get Josh's attention any way he could. Once he did have his foot in the door it spiraled in his mind that he was finally close personal friends emotionally, even though Josh only gave him his phone number in the presence of his parents, at a work event, and discussed it as finally breaking into the industry. There was no point Josh tricked him he wanted more from him.
Johnny realizes hes not actually going to get special attention and goes scortched earth. Josh has no clue Johnny expected more from him because that wouldve been inappropriate and hes being abused by his spouse. Its literally not even on his radar. This was a completely parasocial relationship. Josh never thought johnny was his friend, he was offering to give him business advice and Johnny tried to pervert it. Johnny has openly stated he stalked Josh multiple times now. Its not some huge mystery, johnny is an obsessed fan and feels scorned by someone he desperately believed should be in his life.
Very well said!
My theory on Johnny and what he wanted from this whole situation:
The obvious was attention
But I think it's way more than that. I am in the kpop side of fandom and I have seen highly obsessive people not get the attention they want from their idols and turn on them. They create a hate campain on that person. I think it's the same thing. He was (still is) obsessed with Josh, and he got cut off from this person he was crushing/obessing over and he took that as a massive slight against him.
I think he has been sitting on this obsessive anger for years and saw his chance to take other people's trauma caused by Colleen and use it to try and take down the man who was married to her. Makes it easy for people to think if Colleen is like that, he husband could be too. He ran with it.
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No because when I was watching the doc, I thought the exact same thing. I just didn't know how to put into the right words
So it’s like love and hate at the same time
I knew Colleen was goating Trish into her rant against Josh! It’s wild that you confirmed that she was in the group chat telling you guys to go watch it. I think it’s interesting Trisha isn’t acknowledging this, it goes against her claims that she wasn’t “close” with Colleen. Who goes on a rant against someone’s ex out of the blue if you weren’t close to them?
Does Trish try to impress people? For validation?
@@KagomeYasha023100% and I feel like she desperately wanted it from Colleen
Im sure Swoop will give Josh the voice he has long deserved.
She mentioned she's doing a full interview with Josh
I love that Trish is speaking on this. I can tell that this situation messes with her on a personal level :(
Newsflash- everything bothers Trisha and has for at least 16 years on the internet. That girl has never made any progress on herself
@@ilovemayo123 I disagree, you simply sound biased against her to not acknowledge any sort of growth.
@@LM.312 Trisha admitted she will do anything for money. She sees the views she gets with having Colleen in the title. Moses sent images of Trisha to a 22 year old and body shamed her and said her kitty stank. She married him!! She don’t give an F! How are people this gullible??? 😂😂😂
@@SLD-bz9so Trisha has banked off gullible people for 16 years. People have made fun of her OF for years. She loves it. She’s using this to be victim and promote her OF. Follow the money. She married a man that did exactly what Colleen did. She MARRIED the man. She don’t care. But be gullible
@@ilovemayo123she’s made such a change in her life. you clearly don’t keep up with her or her progress
I’m so happy Swoop is getting all of this positive recognition. I’ve watched her for years and would binge her docs while at work and she always kept me mentally occupied. I always thought that she deserves way more than what she is given, and I hate that people don’t give things a chance when they see the duration of videos. The work she puts in is incredible and her delivery is just as amazing. I’m glad she’s speaking against these monsters.
As a woman with attachment issues (not a personality disorder but-) it’s just really nice to see Trisha’s progress.
Her comment at 28:35 may seem like giving jonny an excuse, but I’m happy to see Trish explore the gray areas, the nuances, the explanations, but still holding jonny accountable, rather than black or white thinking/splitting.
I’m shocked and pissed that swoops video got demonitized. After all the hard work she and her team did for a good period of time! I’m so glad I bought a shirt and a hoodie from her. I didn’t know who she was until I saw the Johnny video. I’m a new fan of her now. Plus, I immediately fell in love with the graphic design of her new merch collection as I’m a big fan of meaningful and beautiful graphic designs of clothing.
Adam, your demeanor that you hold during these things is incredible. Not a single living international diplomat has the balance in the moment of importance that you have. You're wonderful. Genuinely
I think Johnny wants to be included and noticed. He's talked about how lonely he was in school and the Colleen fandom gave him a tribe. I think he was really shattered to have it fall apart, and he does feel like a victim. He just needed to make himself an actual victim to be included and get the attention in this that he was craving, as well as the revenge on the people that he feels hurt him.
Hey Adam, I’m never early so I thought I would comment. Your content has become something I look forward to daily, it’s so nice to see someone my own age compose themselves so maturely on the internet. Your coverage of every topic is always fair, sensible and appropriately humorous. Wishing you the best as you heal and grow 🤍
Isn't he wonderful? I'm 27 and he's even inspiring to me at this age.
This is such a sweet comment 🤍
right!! when i remember i’m the same age as adam i’m like “…damn, he’s a better man than i” so much respect to adam fr
I realllyyy enjoy her podcast , Oscar is wonderful and he nevigate the topics perfectly and let her shine and speak while having the right key points , you should really watch the other episodes too this is a fun ride 💖💗
He wanted fame. Thats it. He saw how famous you got, whether it was good attention or bad. And he wanted that. Hes SOOOO jealous of you Adam lol.
Thank you for keeping me company while I clean and getting me through the hardest part of my life. Everything is coming apart and I really appreciate you being there in your own little way.😊
I didn’t realize swoops video was 4 hours until I was like 2 hours in 😂 it was an amazing video and so much work went into it!
i love that milo gave his own take on the situation, he's so well spoken 8:38
Johnny gives me scorned lover vibes, like he was pissed that Josh didn’t give him the attention he wanted, and so he tried to retaliate. Plus he was mad at Swoop for not buying his B.S. after she found out about his lies. And think he tried to retaliate against Josh by leeching off of Adam. And what kills me is that Johnny screams how it’s inappropriate for adults to interact with minors, yet he was in group chats with minors, and still in group chats with minors. That is a textbook example of hypocrisy. But shout out to Swoop for doing an amazing job, like she deserves a long break after all the work she and her team put in. But it worries me that he might try to retaliate against Swoop
Lmao, I appreciate you giving your cat a moment to voice their opinions 😂
I just got done rewatching swoops series, and i know ive said this a hundred times probably, but my God, Adam. You really are such a strong person, and youre still a thoughtful, loving, empathetic person despite everything youve been through. Especially so much recently, i just cant even imagine the strength it would take to go through what you have❤❤❤ I found you in 2020 when you first came out about this whole shit show, and its been hard to watch all this so i cant even begin to imagine what it would be like to go through. You deserve soo much better, im so sorry so many people have let you down. ❤❤
And hilarious too 🤣
Colleen was fueling that tirade Trisha had against Josh!! She admitted that it was because of what she "knew" from colleen! She said it in a mukbang I think? Im glad someone remembers that, Trisha was absolutely awful and it led to one of Josh's bigger meltdowns. Like she does owe him a huge apology for all that she did to torment him.
Like at one point during the back and forth she even threatened HIM that she could spill the things she learned from Colleen but was only holding back bc she asked her not to! Like nah, its bc it was lies that Josh could have actually clocked and cleared his name sooner.
Yep exactly!!! Josh isn’t perfect nor has he said he is, but he is a good person and did not deserve any of the hate or awful sad thoughts he had which led to him drinking. So glad he is doing better now.
@@J97736 I've always had the softest spot in my heart for Josh over these years. As an abused person myself, sometimes you can just tell when someone is dealing with the same shit as you. He had every hallmark of an authentic victim lashing out. I was so fucking happy when he found sobriety, he deserves it 🥰
@@CaBobProductions honestly me too
100 percent. She went to the mukbang with Colleen right before she made that rant against Josh. And that was when Trisha found out Colleen was pregnant. They for sure talked shit about Josh and Colleen told her he used the same ring for his current wife (a complete lie)
@@Ashleymhsuf927 EXACTLY!!! I was going to mention that it was the mukbang that we found out later that Colleen told Trish she was pregnant! I couldnt remember 100%, omg thank u for saying that
thank you for letting milo speak
Milo took accountability
Why does Trisha act like she didn’t bully 16 year old Charli d’amilio online for weeks not that long ago?
Because she already has like 10 videos apologizing to her on TH-cam and tiktok. Move on. When someone shows EXTREME regret and apologizes multiple times, it's time as a viewer to move on.
How ironic that Johnny got from Josh what Adam wanst from Colleen... a private apology and a public one.
I never even realized swoop’s video was 4 hours because I was so into it and just never looked. I was so tired and had to make myself pause it to go to sleep lol first thing in the morning that’s the first video I clicked on to finish. When it was over my first thought was that I hope part 4 comes out quick. Such a good video, the way she laid everything out, the way she talks, her passion.. all of it. I’ve been watching swoop for a few years now and she really outdone herself with this one. I’m so happy she’s getting the praise she has deserved for so long.
7:38 Johnnys end goal was to ruin Josh. He was very obviously obsessed with Josh. He had an unrequited love that he couldn’t make work. He had likely always wanted to “get back” at Josh somehow for (truthfully, accidentally) leading him on, and this situation gave him an opportunity to do it. It’s similar to the situation between Kodee and Kory (in the way of wanting “revenge”) but Johnny actually had contact with Josh and was in love with him.
Thank you for letting milo speak their truth.
Trisha saying she doesn’t understand why more people aren’t talking about it or paying attention to the situation is wild to me. She was JUST saying in her last video how she didn’t want to pay attention and she stays out of drama. This involved her and she still wanted nothing to do with it.
She is the contradiction queen
She's kinda specifies in this that it's not just drama, because there are real victims. So it's not really a contradiction, more so she's also considered this just some drama. And now she doesn't understand how many people writing this situation off as just drama, now that she's invested in it.
@@mariaosina2778 genuinely, your comment does not make sense. Idk what you’re trying to say.
No because Milo had a point.
OMG right. It is horrible that Swoop's video got demonetized. That video was SO much work. As soon as I get so extra scratch, I am going to get one of her hoodies. The girl deserves support. She takes what she does seriously, and she works hard. Love her!
Being an old fan of miranda and then being so fond of colleen when i found her doing her life in a days, this story destroyed my younger years. I was an 18-19 year old who thankfully never found the fandom! My heart goes out to all of the young adults and kids who have been traumatized by this situation. Youre an inspiration adam!! Stay strong! And swoop!😊
swoop did an amazing job so empathetic and understanding my heart broke in the first video seeing how small you were and how happy you were to be taking a picture with "Miranda" may you and your heart heal from everything that you have gone through. ❤
Colleen totally fueled that tirade that Trisha made about Josh, imo. She knew she was feeding info to someone who was mentally unhinged and that it was going to trigger her to attack him viciously. That whole thing with the engagement ring he gave his wife being the same as hers , I wholeheartedly believe that information was from Colleen.
Not only did swoop keep my attention for 4 hours, I’ve rewatched a few different times to make sure I really absorbed all that information lol
And for people who do not know Swoop, ALL of her research and videos is top-tier. She is extremely powerful and has such tact. You should deep
Dive her if you get the chance
I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again: Swoop deserves your attention. Just because you don’t want to “watch” a four hour video there’s not really an excuse for not being able to listen to it instead. She’s just as easy to listen to as she is to watch. Please give her your time.
John seems desperate enough to have done this to show Colleen- look how loyal I am I'll take the attention off you. He just seems like a very broken nasty person.
The part where you had your cat meow into the mic made all my cats gather around the tv! 😂
I think the thing that is special about D’Angelo is that his Shane video was one of the first of its kind in terms of impact and depth at the time. He did that video before Swoop started similar content. Her first video that matched the level of D’Angelo’s was her “Goodbye Mykie” video. D’Angelo was first.
Out of the 100s and 100s of lies, sometimes she tells the truth. When it benefits her anyway.
😂 EXACTLY
True 💀
And only partially and vaguely but with many words so the truth is indistinguishable from the lies - recipe for TRISHsess
@@dandelion_official4812 That's why she talks so fast. People don't catch all the BS lol
I've experienced someone who absorbed sob stories and psychological jargon, and weaponised it into getting what they wanted. Which was part getting attention/sympathy, part getting away with stuff.
Johnny went about things the exact same way. Absorbing other people's stories to be a sympathy vampire.
This describes Trisha Paytas to a f’in T tho. She does this with every other person she’s ever been close to
@ilovemayo123 you took the words right out of my mouth! Trisha is notorious for this. People are so quick to forget
Trauma doesn’t have a time on it, this is a part of your story and it’s your channel to do as you want.
From someone who experienced grooming multiple times as a child I’m so happy for you that you are talking, it’s not as easy as people realise, and it’s something that sits with you for life. So you talk as much as you want, your maturity, honesty and empathy is so apparent and it’s awesome to see ❤️❤️
The fact that Colleen is a narcissist Trish was being her flying monkey not realizing that's exactly what she was doing so I agree with u Adam I believe Trish didn't realize what Colleen was having her do to hurt Josh and talk down about him!
Swoop is known for her very long length content and she knows how to keep all people engaged and you can tell the the pride she has in her content. I think Trisha with all in all, Trisha has evolved so much. Maybe Malibu has helped her understand empathy and not trolling others or going on a rage posting incomprehensible videos. I am so proud of you and talking this out in detail but in your way, and I love her AITA videos and going back to your regular posting.
Such an amazing statement by Milo☺️
Honestly to me it seems like Johnny's end goal was to jump start his social media career. And he specifically clung onto Adam's coattails and paralleled their stories as much as possible to gain traction with Adam's audience and build a following. Clearly that didn't work out for him because he's not as smart as he thinks he is. He just thought he could talk his way through it and no one would ever question him. And when Adam didn't give him the attention he wanted, he turned to Trisha's nudes as plan b to get attention I guess
I bought three of her hoodies. The dedication of our favorite petty queen is unreal. She is an amazing person inside and out, her hard work, her over all message and her ability to bring the petty when it's absolutely deserved is pure gold. ❤ And her crew my lord, they are unbelievably amazing. I send swoop so much love.
I had a medical procedure and was home yesterday… between my naps (meds), I watched beginning to end. It was so well done… it made me wish there was an award to give her… true researcher, reporter and so well put together. Adam, proud of you!
I stumbled on this entire topic by accident. I'm old, I don't follow pop culture, but I'm PISSED at what has been done to Adam and the other victims and so, now, I'm all over this topic. Colleen, cheated on her husband and gaslit her audience and anyone else who would listen into thinking that Josh was the bad guy. It worked. Everyone fell for it. She did the same thing to Adam and it worked again...both times she was in the wrong and everyone believed her lies and manipulation. She didn't even have the decency to have a parting of ways with Adam, she just ghosted him and released the hounds to attack him, relentlessly. Adam reminds me, so much, of my friend who I lost when we were young during the AIDS crisis: smart, funny, and FIERCE! Colleen: Manipulation time is OVER.
Oof so well said! ❤
I don't have the bandwidth to set for a 3-hour movie but Swoop’s investigative docs never feel bloated or stretched out!
Colleen ended up being the true mentor…. He found someone who’s values aligned with his, and then learned from the best 🤷🏻♀️
i may be wrong, but, it had me thinking when Adam mentioned what’s the goal Johnny had for all this mess he created and for some reason i thought “what if Colleen reached out to Johnny to help her out to get the spotlight away from her?” since he’s acting kind of like the way Colleen did when the divorce was happening and talking nonstop about Josh. idk maybe i’m thinking about it too much >.
I did not realise it was four hours long. I watched the whole damn thing. I had stuff to do and literally postponed everything because Swoop’s video never got boring. I didnt even twig that it was four hours long. Jesus Christ.
Here's my hypothesis about Johnny;
I believe Johnny was a parasocial fan of Colleen and then Josh, to the max. (For example, him showing up to shows, constantly messaging him, etc.) People who have a parasocial fixation on someone at the level Johnny appears to have will do anything they can to tie their name to the person they're fixated on, and they'll do everything they can to get acknowledgment from that person. When Josh (Again, in my opinion) perhaps recognized how attached Johnny was and distanced himself, Johnny maybe felt betrayed. Johnny accusing Josh of this incredibly heinous thing will forever tie their two names together. and not only that, Johnny gets revenge for being "abandoned", and he did get a response from Josh, he got several apologies (Not blaming Josh, of course.) I also genuinely think he never thought anyone would look at his story with the scrutiny and investigation that Swoop did, thus get away with such lies without being pressed on them.
I also think fame was part of it too. He saw the traction this story was getting, and he saw that you Adam have a TH-cam channel and a Twitch stream, which (I assume) has grown somewhat since this story broke out again this year. I think he thought he could get the fame he always wanted through this story and grow his social media presence.
Need it be said, I'm just a guy on the internet saying his opinion, with no qualifications in this sort of stuff, I could be completely wrong. It's just my two cents on the matter :/.
Yeah but D'Angelo was about a million times more clear about his argument. He didn't need new interviews because we have over a decade of shaen behaving grotesquely. That's why it's powerful. No one on TH-cam will be anything close to D'Angelo even to this day because he goes beyond so and so is problematic
I was EXCITED it was 4 hours. I knew she had a long video for a darn good reason.
this situation just keeps going and going 😭
Milo’s comment was so valid!
my opinion on johnny’s motivation was that once he noticed colleen was being called out, he wanted validation for the hurt he felt (from josh not being his bff/colleen not being his ticket) and at, was kinda just dumb about the understanding of grooming, thought maybe he was a victim and this was his chance for validation, then got caught up in the whirl and of it all. i bet he realized long ago he isn’t actually a victim but felt trapped by all he had said previously. it’s just cowardly behavior resulting from insecurity
Hi Adam, just wanted to let you know that I wait for your posts everyday and they’re my favorite. Have a great day 💛
But wait didnt Trisha Paystes also try to ruin Ethan Kleins life with SA accusations?
I was already a fan of Swoop, but when I saw that 4-hour video, I cringed. I figured I'd have to watch it in increments, but I actually watched every.single.second. and gave it my full attention. It didn't seem to take four hours at all. I actually caught myself talking back to the computer, lol. I think that her empathy towards the people she interviews, and even those people like Johnny is what makes her so unique and watchable. Her openness and honesty and her little injections of humor into things make her infinitely watchable.
I liked her very much before this...now I flat-out _Stan_
Didn’t Trish accuse josh of using the same ring he gave Colleen to Pamela. That was definitely fueled by Colleen.
Trisha owes Josh an apology. Period.
Trisha owes dozens of people apologies. She never will though
@@rachelr9594 so true
Was watching this to see if she apologized to josh. She draaaagggged him. She definitely owes him a huge apology.
Swoop could be ranked up there with journalists of our time like Australia Liz Hayes. Compassionate but hard hitting as well when needed
8:12 i wasn't looking at the video and started looking for my cats everywhere thinking it was one of them ahsjdjd
i have adhd and i paid attention to the swoop video the WHOLE time i was sad when it ended too😭😭😭
Hi Adam!! I’m at 7:59 at the moment but I wanted to chime in on the topic of Johnny’s intention. This is entirely from what I have understood from this situation, along with my opinion so of course please correct me if I have something wrong about the story! Anyways, I’ve seen this kind of response happen before with certain people I know who have unhealthy and manipulative ways of interacting. They would be or feel victimized in some way and instead of being able to understand that another’s victimhood does not take anything from theirs, they see it as a kind of threat to their story and validity(Likely from trauma related to being repetitively invalidated). This manifested in such occurrences as having friends who had gone through things no one should go through, being met with a friend explaining their struggle with the same thing only to be shot down because they “didn’t have it as worse as them” for whatever reason. From what I was able to evaluate, it seemed like these individuals felt their status as a victim was so fragile and easily invalidated that they clinged to it any way they could, even by lying or manipulating relationships so that they could feel righteous in their victimhood.
After watching swoop's video I started thinking, what if Johnny is pushing so hard on the josh narrative to deflect the attention from Colleen so people will stop talking about her? I wonder if those two still communicate... IDK
I was thinking that too! Like if he quit his job like he said he did... where his money coming from?👀
I have questions!
I love you Adam!!! Your uploads make my day ❤️❤️❤️
Sitting with my cat watching your videos, I’m going through a really hard time and your videos help :)
Crazy thing is if Johnny had just let up on everything, he'd be fine right now. If he'd stopped after the first apology and moved on, I'm sure things would've been fine