I would love to see you do a comparison of Coleens behavior vs the xomg pop scandal where jojo and her mom were shading the girl with a disability in her group.
I just thought of it but a defamation class action lawsuit against Colleen. Do you have any to you about her net worth? You can also ask for a judge to give consequences like she's no longer allowed to do certain things not just monetary sanctions you might be able to keep her from the Internet
Hi I wasn't fully aware of the extent of jojo and Rachel's relationship until this video make me do some searching, the first video I clicked on has shocked me it's called coming out to eachother jojo s1 ep4 on Rachel's podcasts channel, I feel like this needs to be made aware its really creepy and I'm not sure how you could play it off as it just being uncensored, how is she so comfortable talking about that kind of stuff like in the first few seconds of the video
Jojo was groomed , she defends groomers, but people forget she’s an adult so she probably also becoming a groomer considering her fans are kids she hangs out with little kids etc
@kateregan8738 I was fr thinking the same thing earlier today. She surrounds herself in this type of environment so much that I wouldn't be surprised of future allegations. Hopefully she realized she's a victim before turning others into victims as well.
@@khaleesireyna731they’re probably freaking out because they likely didn’t expect sweet ole howie to bring it up but they must bit don their research well because he’s had a hard stance against Colleen this entire time lol
Jojo is the definition of groomed as a kid. She has been in the public eye being used by the adults im her life, and now she thinks it's fine. She is way too close to see how fucked this really is. I feel sorry for her, but she is responsible for her words and actions. She is an adult now. And adults have consequences, sooner or later.
not to mention that she is in a position where she can influence todays youth, and by saying what she’s saying and associating with people like james and colleen it’s sending a really bad message to her kid and teenage audience, she’s a victim but she’s also an adult and irresponsible with her platform
exactly. she's normalizing these kinds of inappropriate relationships and interactions to her young fans by standing by people like colleen and james. @@ultimatequeenofdeath666
I've been talking about this elsewhere but it's important. PSA for the girls and young women out here: if you have someone much older than you around telling you how you're sooooooooo mature and all that.... You aren't. They want something from you and you need to do everything in your power to say far away from that person. This is an extremely common manipulation (g-r-o-o-m-i-n-g) technique used on young girls. It's normal that you feel alienated-the world is especially cruel to you-of course you can't wait to grow up, and that attention from older people makes you feel good... But they are not your friend, that cool older guy who flirts with you is a LOSER creep, and they are not your escape from the cruel misogyny directed at young girls and women. You're enough, protect yourself 💜
This is all so sad. Jojo needs therapy. I wouldn't trust my kid around Jojo. She doesn't know what appropriate behavior with children looks like. And now she's the adult.
"but they were nice to me" is such a shit take. even serial killers were nice to some people while they were still on their killing spree, it doesnt change the fact that they were still killing people. like wtf. just because they were nice to you doesnt mean they can be excused from their actions
It’s more I think she can’t comprehend it at all since ‘she’s been so nice to her’ which was just grooming along with so many other adults in the last 10years that have groomed and exploited her. She will only realise how wrong these relationships she had were when she’s 24/25.
Huh! The reason Danny Masterson got convicted was because he r**word ed famous actresses whom society actually takes seriously! 😒 😐 hope to not victim-name Jane Doe 2 or victim-naming here but… now it makes SENSE!!! Bye bye Danny.
Jojo Siwa 1000000% has the ability to possibly groom other children in her adulthood. She thinks this it totally normal and that this behavior is fine and okay. This is exactly what the cycle of abuse looks like. It's sad, and part of me wants to feel sorry/bad for her, but at some point there has to be a moment when she needs to wake tf up. She's still young and I'm hoping she will realize it, but the whole situation just frustrates me.
Definitely agree. Onison and his partner, Kai, immediately come to mind. Kai was a victim of Onision till they became an adult decided to repeat that behavior and bring minors into their relationship. Now Kai has their own victims.
This is the smartest comment I’ve read. I also have lots of empathy for her relationship with toxic adults but she is almost my age. It’s time to own our shit.
@@bribri9680 Not the point at all, but that's very sweet of you to say 😅 I've studied psychology a lot since my teen years so thank you! It's just frustrating when she's literally SO close to realizing that she's being groomed by saying things like "Well, she's my idol and my situation is different because we're REAL FRIENDS." Like honey, you are 🤏THIIIIIIIS🤏 close.
@@ChiZillaaa yeahhhh I’ve been interested in that field for years. Getting my social work degree now and after seeing all this there NEEDS to be reform on how entertainment industry, especially online, exploits and profits off children. Probably why jojo thinks this is normal. She’s been the breadwinner and a mini adult since before she was a teenager.
Props to you and Trisha for communicating maturely. You being able to voice when you're upset with her without attacking her character, her being able to email you explaining her disclaimer and apologising for not meaning for it to cause you to recieve hate. Adults make mistakes like these, and it's about being able to rectify them, I hope more people can look to how you handle conflict. Amazing job, Adam
People don't give Trisha credit for her boundaries and what she's learned since she was early/mid 20s. As a former HS teacher, I ABSOLUTELY knew the types of groomers she discusses. The fact that it's NOT illegal is disgusting, because we can't *DO* anything about it w/o legislation.
That's why it is crucial to an open line of communication with your children where you speak about these things often. I'm a candidate attorney and what we do when this happens is issue protection orders immediately halting any type of contract the fucker has with the child.
@@siracastori01 And you know what, you'll do the same for your kids if you have any or your nieces or nephews because them being irritated or awkward with the constant discussions as opposed to traumatized is perfect.
One particularly unsettling thing is that Jojo is now an adult and has put herself in a mentorship/teaching role with MANY young children through her dance groups. Alarming that someone who clearly has not unpacked the grooming she experienced herself, and who has such a skewed idea of boundaries and what constitutes a “normal” relationship between adults and kids, is currently in such a position of power with access to young kids herself.
As a fellow bpd sufferer I’m so proud of her tremendous growth. The maturity and emotional regulation she’s exhibited during this horrific situation is truly beautiful and amazing and I hope she finds actual friends who care about her instead of just using her
omg Trisha has BPD? Yo Adam try to be more patient with Trish, it's really hard for people who suffer from that to stop fixating on criticism. You may have only done like 1 or 2 videos where you criticized her for claiming ignorance to your situation, but her perception will blow that up. The comment from her seems like it comes out of nowhere for you, but Trish probably thought a lot about the things you've said. I'm glad you both are handling your rapport with each other privately. We're all on the same side here.
@@Jasmine-lj1ou I believe Trisha herself has talked about being diagnosed and has mentioned it a few times. Maybe Katie’s video came out first and Trisha decided to get it checked out because of it but I’m almost 100% positive she herself has discussed it
Trisha said in her first video addressing the Colleen situation that she was diagnosed with BPD. She’s been in therapy to figure out why she was acting the way she was when she was doing her kitchen floor videos, and when she was diagnosed she developed ways to regulate her emotions and to think before making a video reacting to things.
trisha calling it a banishment is so yasssssssss. cancel has lost its meaning completely and truly banishment is such a good word for it i love that so much. 💀💀
There is a big difference between being a mentor and being a friend. My daughter gardens with the elderly female neighbor and it’s precious. That’s an instance children can be friends with an adult…it’s another type of friendship. Colleen was trying to be besties with Jojo which is creepy and groomy.
Was coming to say something along these lines. I think it is important for kids to have other trusted adults in their lives that they can go to if they can't talk to their parents about something (this is especially important for lgbtq+ kids or any kid who might be in an unsafe home situation), and that can't be limited to teachers or other authority figures that the kid thinks might get them in trouble if they go there either. I get where people are coming from when they're like "No adult should be friends with a kid EVER" but I do think it can be dangerous to swing too far in that direction. Kids and adults can be friends, but a different type of friendship, like you were describing. The adult needs to know what boundaries to draw and what is and isn't appropriate to do/talk about.
@@leslienope I agree with this. I'm not sure if it's quite safe to make children afraid of EVERY adult, ofc stranger danger and caution should be advised, but every child should be made aware what friendships that are healthy and what friendships that aren't look like between an adult and a minor.
@@bobtheball5384exactly, and also, teaching them what those healthy and unhealthy dynamics look like will serve them a lot better as they grow up and enter adulthood than just teaching them to be afraid.
@@bobtheball5384 Exactly? I'm a 16 year old and I have an 11 y/o cousin. I am aware she is way younger than me. But the difference is we do innocent things like hang out and talk about normal things. Colleen was almost two decades older than her victims and talked way too much about her life and dumped everything onto her victims. Like why are you talking about your divorce with a bunch of children? Why are you talking about adult things with children?!
I only hope that Jojo soon realizes that given the specifics of the situation that there is a HUGE difference between "I've known Colleen since I was 12" (inappropriate) Versus "I've known OF Colleen since I was 12" (appropriate).
I don’t see your logic here. They are both celebrities. Jojo was someone famous at a young age. And Colleen is someone famous also. They both collab’d on a video when Jojo was 12 on a Miranda Sings video. Quit reaching.
@sambugos4237 the problem is the weird dynamic outside of the collab. Colleen was trying to act like a "bestie" to her despite the big age difference. I don't think anyone would complain about a harmless collab.
We all know that Colleen put Jojo up to doing that interview. She uses who ever she can ,to try change the narrative .Colleen needs to be held accountable for these things. More then she is. Adam im so sorry you're childhood was hurt by that creep. 💔
This is so true! She has literally children defending her online and now she sent a former child star to defend her name. Colleen is so lame and we can all see that now.
Amen!!! And the sad truth is. That Colleen started this weird attraction to children even before Jojo. She met and became friends with Ariana Grande first. Colleen as Miranda did a guest appearance on Sam and Cat. Was because of Ariana. Colleen is a menace to society. She needs to be held accountable for what she’s doing.
It's the tactful manipulation. Colleen would have just garnered pity and sympathy, got JoJo on her side and made JoJo believe that Colleen was the victim, so that JoJo is doing this 'of her own accord'. Saying things to manipulated JoJo's mind like, '"You wouldn't let anyone say that stuff about me, right? You know me. We're best friends. I have your back and you have mine, right?"
yes grooming doesn’t have to be sexual but let’s not forget that colleen would often make things sexual while talking to minors. she may not have wanted actual sex with them but she was also sexually grooming them.
The whole “but they were nice to ME” argument is insane. This happens all the time (I’m Asian) when I mention that a mutual acquaintance has done/said racist things and the person I’m telling goes, “oh well I’VE never seen them do that.” Well of COURSE you haven’t Karen. You’re white…. 🙄
People even do it was SA/SH, “ well he wasn’t a creep or touch me !” Okay 😐 but he did do something to me/them? It’s not about you it’s about the victim ?!?..
I’ve definitely felt this as a non-binary person too. Someone will continuously disrespect my pronouns but my friends will be like “they’ve never done that to me” when they literally use binary pronouns like she/her or he/him
As someone who never had a childhood due to truama. I cannot stand people who think it's good to have "mature children" mature children means something very traumatic happened. I had to grow up fast to survive. I was making my own meals at like 5/6. I learned how to safely use the stove..and take "care" of myself.. obviously I wasn't taking great care of myself. But it was enough to survive. My mom was checked out and my dad not around. I lost my only bff at 9.. I was so emotionally disconnected from my peers. It felt like I was the only one it was okay to bully and harass mentally and physically. Even teachers and teachers aids joined in. No one understood me in my peer group because they where all having actual childhoods..
Mature children are traumatized children. Some healthy, well-adjusted children are comparatively responsible or intelligent, but kids who aren’t just nurturing, but parental, who aren’t just well-read, but worldly, who aren’t just articulate, but seem adult-that’s not a mature child, it’s a hurt child. I’m so sorry you didn’t get to have a childhood. It wasn’t fair, and it’s so wrong that adults who should have protected you joined in on the bullying. I wish you healing, freedom, and joy in your adulthood. ❤️🩹
I’m so sorry you went through that. I went through similar trauma as a child and I wouldn’t wish that kind of pain/hurt on anyone. No child deserves to have their innocence ripped away from them. The saying “all kids deserve parents, but not all parents deserve kids” is the truest thing. Hope you’re doing well now
Exactly! A “mature” child is a child that has endured a lot of trauma. My parents divorced when I was five and my narcissist mother (who also has other untreated mental illnesses) was checked out when she wasn’t abusing us so I had to teach myself how to cook, clean, do laundry, etc. to take care of myself and my two younger sisters. Add onto that my uncle (my mother’s brother) molesting me from age 3 and my mother allowing it to continue when I went to her after it first happened. I had to grow up quickly and I was way more mature than a majority of my peer group as well. I too have had to deal with having my best friend pass away. It has taken me a lot of therapy, EMDR, etc. to get to the point that I am not constantly triggered, but this isn’t something I would wish upon any child. Not having the opportunity to have a childhood was brutal. And I am so sorry to hear that you experienced something similar to me growing up. 💔 I wish you all of the best on your healing journey. 💞
@fukaikokoro I grew up a mature child because my parents loved and taught me to respect people, my parents expected well behavior from all of us growing up or else there would be consequences. You and everyone agreeing with you need to change their mindset on "mature" children, didnt have anyone to guide you so you took the initiative to lead yourself, thats willpower thats not being traumatized. Keep an open mind that your childhood is just YOUR childhood. Everyone goes through trauma but not everyone becomes mature after the trauma they go through, some people go through a hell amount of trauma as kids and some of those same kids are now the most immature adults in the world right now, they are also deemed by the government "undeveloped" !! @sngray11
I know Jojo was young when she meet these people, but she is an adult know should be able to look at the mountain of evidence and see when someone is is the wrong, using kids for your own selfish gain is wrong.
she's still deep in the manipulation. it took Adam being out of the friendship to realize just how bad it was and how much he was groomed and manipulated. Jojo, right now, is still in it and thinks the "good" side Colleen is presenting to her is her real self and who knows what Colleen is telling her behind the scenes, playing the victim. plus when you're in your early 20's, you're still immature and Jojo has definitely some stunted growth due to her lifestyle. give it time and Jojo will eventually see what we all see and come to terms with it and realize Colleen has used her too. when you only see someone's good side, its hard to believe when you hear bad things about them until, a lot of the time, you're out of the friendship or they show their true colors to your face.
@@HelloXrancidkittehI mean yeah, this maybe excuses her for Colleen. But it doesn't excuse her for promoting James Charles and literally every other predator on TH-cam.
@@HelloXrancidkitteh Yes and unfortunately a big part of what has stunted her growth is that she has spent her life in an adult environment so she thinks that she is mentally older than other people her age. In some ways she is, not everyone can pull off a tour at 16 and already have yourself as a brand before that. There is something missing though or they would have been able to replicate that with XOMG Pop and so far they haven't figured that out.
Just because you're an adult does not mean you are rid from abuse, gas-lighting, and grooming that shaped you into literally what you are. That takes years and usually therapy. That's the exact same as victim blaming. She can be called out and held accountable without jabbing a finger in her face of "you should know better". She was never taught better and being an adult doesn't give you magical knowledge of how deeply you were abused.
Good to know that Trisha is actually changing her behavior and handling situation in a more mature and classy way. Also pretty sad that Jojo has been groomed and used her whole childhood and not even her parents were standing up for her. But now it's so hard to feel bad for her now thats she an adult and even helping others groom her audience of children.
Agree with everything. Hoping Trish stays on this trajectory. Hopefully Jojo can grow and do better, too. She's gonna have a lot to unpack in therapy someday.
It's honestly sad, like Jojo has been adopted into so many terrible friendships with adults that end up being Groomers/predators. Anytime someone comes out about her "friends" she gets defensive because "They were super nice to me."
the sexual jokes colleen did in her “skit” with jojo is beyond vile. i cannot imagine how sick you have to be to sexualize a child, even as a joke. it happened to me all my life, & i’m not even remotely famous. i was sexually abused as a child & these “jokes” by family members made me think feeling this uncomfortable in my body & so “dirty” was normal, that when i got fucking raped it was OK because it wasn’t a stranger. i’m not saying ANY of this is happening to jojo or any child affiliated with these youtubers but i just wish people knew how harmful making sexual jokes about children. it can remove their sense of autonomy. it can desensitize them, make them hyper-sensitive, blah blah… it can go so far as to make a child not speak out about a crime committed against them because they don’t understand that they deserve basic boundaries. truly vile.
I was a child actor. I grew up around adults, I grew up around predators. Jojo needs to really find a good therapist who will help her analyse some of the stuff that has happened in her life, or she is going to end up excusing predators for the rest of her life-- or worse, learning from them.
"Am I gonna be 21 and think, 'Holy shit, I knew nothing at 20.'?" I'm 22 and the answer is yes, and it will never stop. That's the beauty of the human experience baby!! We get to grow and change and mature and learn. The sooner we accept that we know jack shit about ourselves and the world, the sooner we open up to real understanding. Hope you're well kiddo!!!!
I'm 26 and second this 🥴 tho I will say around when I turned 25 I got hit with a huge wave a mental clarity and things have kind of mellowed out since then. I was able to look back at a ton of things I've done/that were done to me and finally see them for what they are and forgive myself, which was nice
I have so much more respect for her for the way she’s handled this situation so seriously and the way she’s speaking up when it would maybe be easier to “forget about all this,” or to move on after her first video addressing it
it’s terrifying that the biggest person speaking out in support of colleen is potentially the one who’s been groomed the deepest by the entire family, in the darkest ways that we don’t even know about yet.
Trish & I were pregnant to the day together with our first babies. It was actually kinda funny. Same due dates. Same days pregnant. I really changed completely as a person. And watching that also happen to her in ways has been another funny coincidence of it all. And i’m happy it has changed her. The difference is: Colleen was a new mother sending nudes around. Trisha was a new mother finding out her friend had done that.
I wouldn’t say she changed, I’d give her some time tbh. It could just be a phase she’s trying 😅. That’s just how I approach people like her, give it some time. Hope I’m wrong!
@@FabiolaMacabrechill. i’m not out here saying she’s a saint. i said she’s changed in some ways. she’s still incredibly immature in others. but i’m not foolish enough to sit here and act like i know anyone personally off videos. or make anyone list the pros and cons of a person.
@@FabiolaMacabreI personally believe that malibu is the reason she isn't trolling and being a shit head anymore just because mailbu brings in the money. She hasn't made many videos with her now because she is getting money from talking about all the drama, bur once that all blows over and views get low. She'll start making tons of videos containing malibu bi really feel like she hasn't changed she just had something else making her money now.
I have a friendship with my 13 year old niece. But like...boundaries are a thing. I mostly encourage her to keep doing art, not wanting to be her bestie and in her group chats lmao. She's an awesome young person, but there are such things as just being an encouraging aunt or outsider and then moving on with your day. Not creating group chats with them and their friends, that's just weird.
Well, you're her aunt. So it's okay to hang out with her. As long as you still act like an adult around her and not a getting involved in all of her kid group. Not insinuating you are
yeah, def not getting involved in kid group chats or friend groups. That would be weird. she's a cool kid. I can't understand how people would hurt kids.@@personincognito3989
That's your niece though x it's like how I feel like my daughter is my best friend but I'm also her parent and set boundaries and keep a look out for her safety and wellbeing
I'm very close with my 12 year old niece. She trusts me and talks to me about everything including the boy she likes. I have never met her friends or wanted to spend time with them. I take my niece out shopping or whatever but it's totally not creepy like this. Children do need adults they trust as long as you have boundaries. I try to make sure she has self worth and won't fall into peer pressure bc she's had a hard life. I got her to safety 2 years ago finally but I'm aware the damage is done. That's why I probably do have a closer relationship with her than I normally would've but the poor girl has to know she's cared for. But it's not like I go to her sleep overs or her middle school football games or any of those things. I go to the sports games she plays in or events for her but it's still a separate thing. I follow her on tiktok but not any of her friends and I never comment bc I don't want to engage with anyone but my niece who is my family. She lived with me until she was 3 so it would be weird to not have a relationship with her. That's not what any of this is about.
And to add, there's a big difference between having a close relationship with your niece and sending nudes and talking about your sex life with them. Big no.
I’m so glad Trisha reached out in a private and mature way to try and smooth things over between her and Adam. I hope they can really become cool with each other.
Justice for you, Becky, Oliver, Alex, Ella and everyone who chooses to remain anonymous during this. We won't be quiet about child abuse, online or off. The only thing in common between Colleen and JoJo is their viewership. All the Ballingers want is cross-pollination of fans on the internet, and now they're trying to use JoJo as a character witness, because they need someone to say that Colleen didn't outright abuse them, instead of handling this situation legally like they're supposed to.
@@JosephsCloudthat’s valid, she can’t expect to be a poop head in the past and people just forgetting. You can be kind and continue holding people accountable.
@@JosephsCloudyou’re allowed to criticize bad actions/ lies that a creator has done, whilst still acknowledging that you’re civil with each other. Just because you’re at peace with someone doesn’t mean you should just turn a blind eye and ignore the bad things they do
@@JosephsCloud he is a fricken commentary channel. Trisha can’t expect him NOT to talk about the stuff going on, simply because they “made up” it’s not like he’s shit talking her and calling her a hot ass mess like he used to. He commentates while also being respectful towards her. But she expects drama channels to not talk about her at all if she befriends them. Thats just not how it works.
if colleen genuinely cared about Jojo she would have warded her away from defending her publicly, because she must have known she was going to take Jojo's career out with her.. i just had a realisation, what if colleen wants Jojos career to fail because hers is. What is more worrying is who is in Jojo's life that doesn't support Colleen?
One thing I really want to give Adam credit for is the fact that his stance doesn't change based on whether or not he likes the person he's speaking about. It's SO easy to get caught up in bias when we think about various situations, but I've noticed that he stays very consistent and fair by not letting personal feelings override his original stance on a matter. Huge props to you for that Adam, I think that shows strong integrity :)
The whole Dance Moms thing was just extended through other people as well, and their relationships with these girls were all inappropriate. I've noticed people aren't talking very much about Sia. Her relationship with Maddie Ziegler always seemed weird to me too. I just hope these girls can finally realize what kinds of people they've been dealing with and can finally remove themselves from these situations.
I saw lots of people talking about it when the movie Music came out especially with some of the things that Sia said while she was promoting it. Would be interesting to know what their relationship is these days as she isn't someone that you hear the Ziegler's talking about anymore (if they have I haven't seen it)
If you want to see the effects of children having adult friends and the damage that it can do… look at Drew Barrymore. It is insane. Her life as a very young child , was unbelievable.
The same thing happened to Tatum O'Neill. What happened to her was just like what happened to Drew. Tatum's father and mother were considered Hollywood royalty and she grew up in an environment where she was not treated like a child and was allowed to go to adult Hollywood parties both at home and at the homes of other actors. She has spoken up about it up until her death, about how Hollywood preys on the young.
She only gave Trish an apology because she was hoping if she did that she wouldn't actually talk about it. It would be a it's okay I forgive you and sweep it under the rug.
As someone who was preyed on as a 12 year old by a guy who preyed on other people my age, I see where JoJo is coming from. I have been able to unravel how f*cked what happened to me was, but another girl my age married my abuser and had a child with him. It triggered me very much when I happened across her on social media and thought “I wonder how her life is going!” and had to see her hospital pictures with my abuser and their child… but she’s still stuck under his control and I am not. Like we keep saying, there are no perfect victims. Unfortunately, JoJo is still stuck under Colleen’s control, and she may be for a long time. Considering her continued defense of ALM, I think it might take a drastic event and some very intensive therapy for her to finally see she’s been used and groomed by nearly every adult in her life. I don’t think she realizes that it’s okay to admit people helped to get you where you are while also disavowing them as a person. It’s obvious she feels beholden to these people for her fame and success. It’s really so sad
She isn't lying about her feelings about children cause if u go back in the day and watch her video with her and JoJo collaboration...she wasn't liking the fact that there wouldn't be another adult in JoJo's house with the 2 of them...she keeps asking if her mom was there...she acted very paranoid about being alone with someone underage, so I believe her
Jojo has been groomed to please adults all her life. TV executives, dance coaches and hell even her parents! She was easy pickings for Colleen to attack. She's never been allowed to just "be" an ordinary kid!
15:47 Omg… OBVIOUSLY they’re going to be “nice to you”. I hate that mentality. Abusers don’t just start cussing you out and manipulating you on the get. They act nice to you, get to know you, use your weaknesses against you. Thats why its hard to break from an abusers cycle. Jojo was only a stepping stone for Colleen. She was only a means to reach an audience, and use her platform for her to say “she was nice to me”.
This situation with Jojo is an example of *successful* grooming. Building on the power dynamic, becoming the idol, creating such closeness that it blinds the victim from truth. The loyalty is so strong and that is the goal of the abuser. It’s really sad and I hope that there can be a perspective shift for jojo because she is young and she is also a victim of Colleen. This interview supports your story, Becky’s story, Oliver’s story and every person affected by the Ballinger family- more than it may feel right now.
as disappointed as i am to see jojo invalidate the victims, i can now see why she would. you couldn't have designed a better dissenter. she's been groomed her whole life, I'm sure people are still telling her "youre so mature for your age" even all that aside, she was not in any position to comment on the situation at all
Trisha has been very understanding and ive actually enjoyed watching her sometimes now. Regardless of her past, she is very smart. Its a love hate relationship with me. I have hated some of her videos, then i like some. I appreciate her sticking up for whats right.
@personincognito3989 I haven't seen much of her daughter since she and Moses announced her birth, is she making a bunch of content centered around her daughter or just posting a picture or video of her every now and again (genuinely asking)?
@@KaseyNlopez not enough to tell Colleen Ballinger off when they were posting TH-cam videos together and she was 12. If you as a parent are just like "OK sweetie, have fun making videos with the 32 year old woman that you met on the internet" and you DON'T step in when said 32 year old woman does weird videos, such as SHOWING JOJO SIWA HER VIDEO OF HER GIVING BIRTH (that was an actual reaction video they did together btw)... I'm sorry you're not being a responsible parent for taking you're kid out of that situation. Period. If her mother isn't stepping in on the serious shit like that, but they're making cute little tik toks, that sounds like mom wants to be besties with her daughter instead of parenting her 12 year old (at the time).
@kharper0527 The point I'm trying to make is that a parent who decides to vlog their children don't have to get hate all because the internet has so many pedos!!! I try to keep my son safe every second. We live in the times of social media and the internet. Regardless if we try to keep our kids on the internet, it does not eliminate the possibility of having pedos and sick people around our children while out and about.
It’s seriously been so amazing watching Trisha grow as a person over these past few years, and especially after she had her daughter. You can tell she has become MUCH more mature and mentally-sane, and I’m honestly so proud of her and what she has accomplished. She has truly been through so much growth, and I hope she is happy that she seems to be in such a good place right now, despite everything that has been going on around her recently. It just makes me really glad for her and her little family that she has turned into a much better person than she used to be, and I’m excited to continue watching her change and realize how much her past actions have negatively affected people. I’m happy to hear that you and her have come to some sort of middle-ground as well. You and her being able to have an adult conversation and her being able to apologize for indirectly causing you to get hate is great to hear about!
@@JosephsCloud I thought he speaks of her relatively highly, while still respectfully disagreeing with her on some situations. I respect Adam's approach.
@@ember9361not a fan of trisha but she’s clearly made an effort to change i don’t think it’s fair to keep seeing a changing person as their past fuck ups
@@JosephsCloudhe’s just speaking his mind. They aren’t friends nor really like one another, but he’s been respectful and given her tons of props where, idk if she deserves it yet considering she still wants to be a family vlogger. I’m not sure if this situation has changed her stance, but I doubt it.
Trisha is unstable, but she is aware of it, and she's getting help. So it makes sense things would be confusing between you. But it's great that she contacted you and wanted to make it up to you.
Banishment is the perfect word for it! It essentially means she’s been told to go away and means “the action of getting rid of something unwanted” which is exactly the truth 🤷🏽♀️ might be the new word for cancelled 😂🤣
The Dance Mom kids were just prepped for being taken advantage of with that show... Sia had a weird fixation on Maddie Ziegler for awhile too that seemed really creepy at the time, going beyond just featuring her in some videos...
PSA. If someone older than you tells you they want to hangout with you and like you because "you are so mature for your age". You aren't. You are not cooler or more mature than the kids your age. If the person you look up to doesn't have friends their age it is a major red flag. Nobody would be caught dead hanging out with a 12 year old and unironically call them their friend. It's not normal, it's weird and that person has problems. I wish someone had told me that and it took me way too long to realize it.
i saw that and i really didn’t think it was true. i think she thinks you don’t like her and she’s sensitive about it. what she says about Jojo is 100% true and very similar to what your reaction to the Howie podcast was.
honestly if people are saying that you've been too harsh on trisha in this situation they clearly haven't watched any of your videos. you've been very fair and have shown a lot of compassion to her imo.
A year ago I would have never thought I could ever have an ox of respect for anything Trisha did. I still hate a lot of her past, but I’m glad to have encountered a situation that I can say “hey, yeah, people are nuanced and complicated and I can respect this person in this instance”
She's honestly one of the rare cases of a very problematic person actually reflecting on the trouble they caused, admitting to it, and taking a step back to work on it. Regardless of how you feel about her, it is hard to ignore the genuine growth she's gone through and I really wish more TH-camrs did this. We don't want you to be perfect, we just want to know you are trying.
@@AshChiCupcakwhen has she admitted to her lies that have harmed other people ?? I’m curious maybe I missed it, I could have since I’m not subbed to her channel and it’s been ages. I’ve always hoped she would see the light and just be honest.
@@FabiolaMacabreshe never hurt or harmed anyone. She was a literal troll on the internet yes she did fucking horrible things but she never hurt anyone. She’s grown so much and people need to let go of the past she wasn’t the only one it was TH-cam culture everyone did shit like that.
@@FabiolaMacabre I don't regularly consume her content either, but I watch a lot of people who do and have seen her address a lot of her problematic behavior in podcasts and other places. I'm sorry I can't be more specific. The only thing I haven't seen her specifically apologize for was the whole DissociDID drama where she claimed they didn't have DID but I feel like Kya has moved past that cuz they have other serious issues they've been dealing with recently. She was just a very unsavory character on the internet, if she's trying to do better, she should be allowed to prove that she's not that person anymore.
You would have thought that Jojo learned from the Christi lukasiak situation. Not to invalidate someone else's experience just because she had a good one.
I think its important to point out that JoJo Siwa has a net worth of at least 20 million dollars and at the time of most of these collabs was even more. Its not that JoJo was profiting off of these collabs it is the people she was collabing with that were the ones grappling for the profits. Jo Jo was the one being used and its sad that she cannot recognize that. She cannot recognize it because she has been used as a tool for profit her entire life. No matter how sweet her family may seem we also need to remember that her family are the ones that expolited her at such a young age for PROFIT. Jo Jo defends these people because she only knows these types of people and thinks that their attention equals love for her.
Yes every new person in her life is her best friend and other adjectives that mean someone who is really close and meaningful to you. Both Jess and JoJo will cut someone if they feel that they have been wronged though and they openly say it. It must be a chaotic way to live.
@@Emmae62 As far as JoJo goes her mum Jess seems to have been the driving force. She has said that she saw something special in JoJo since she was a toddler and her aim was to make JoJo a star. Don't know what age JoJo was when she decided that she wanted it too. Jess started dyeing JoJo's hair from the age of 2-3 years old. She also put in the audition tape for Abby's Ultimate Dance Competition without asking JoJo if she wanted to do it (JoJo was the youngest her season at 9). From when they were on Dance Moms onwards Jess and JoJo moved to LA and for a few years Tom and Jayden were still in Omaha (they moved when Jayden was in year 12). I will give Jayden that he has decided that he wants to have a 'normal' life, has moved out etc.
I will say there is only ONE excuse for being friends with a child; being their older sibling. My youngest sister and I are 11 years apart, and I'm 24. I cannot imagine talking to her about the things Colleen talked to you and the others about. It's absolutely disgusting
right? i’m only 8 years older then my only sister and now as a teenager and i’m in my twenties we are a lot more close now but like i would never ever ever talk to her like that before she was mature enough to handle it and never the way colleen did ever. not that. that’s never okay.
I'm so glad Trisha brought up that apologies are owed by Colleen. We all know that Colleen probably won't ever feel sorry for the things she's done/said. *But* she NEEDS to feel sorry for how she's made her victims feel and the hurt she's caused.
I think this entire situation with Jojo will possibly have flipped with time. Jojo will definitely wake up to what’s happened to her one day. I do believe that. And if she doesn’t, she is susceptible of repeated behaviors of the people who taught her. i do have sympathy that jojo is close to getting it, but the victims speak louder.
Tbh Trisha is lucky you didnt go in harder on her esp in regards to her claiming shes not like colleen when she ignored trevi moran when she said trisha was inappropriate with trevi in the video with shane, plus trisha ignoring the many many times she herself has been predatory with minors, idk about her being 'mature' now cus i feel like shes glad colleens taking all the heat now, deservedly but so should trisha What colleen did to trisha was horrible but at the same time trisha could also have addressed and taken accountability for her past instead of vaguely saying shes a different person now. Trisha has also bullied minors in the past and blanketing everything with a general 'i dont do bad things anymore' is so disingenuous
Adam mentioned with the Kory photo it was Colleen testing the waters if it was safe to come back. That was a few weeks ago. Was this attempt number 2 to come back? Probably. How did it go? It completely backfired into the community trying to educate Jojo that she quite possible has been groomed.
If Trisha got an email from Colleen apologizing for sending her nudes to fans, that means she has hard evidence of Colleen admitting to sending explicit photos to minors. Just sayin'. 👀
I think also with Jojo saying “well she’s been nothing but nice to me” that it’s not being taken into account that maybe she was treated so well because she was already famous, and Adam was a “nobody”. She would be dumb to treat jojo like she did Adam when jojo already had such a huge platform at the time and Adam did not.
I do have a little grace for Jojo still. Her whole life has been about adults treating her like an adult. She doesn't know yet just how wrong it is. I had a 24 year old man befriend me at 14. I defended him right up until I was 24, and realized how young 14 year olds are. I'm hoping as she gets older and sees it, she'll be able to heal from all the adults that have taken advantage of her
This is the most accurate anyone has said. I said this about Adam too. When you’re groomed or abused, you’re not seeing things the way you would normally at 20 and 21. Jojo is still speaking as a child who was groomed and still hasn’t realized her trauma. It could take decades. It’s abuse!
I had a similar thing when I was 17 and he was 21. I was always like "well at least it wasn't THAT big of a gap" but once I was 21 and onward I was like, holy hell, 17 year olds are babies and I'd NEVER want to have that intimate of a friendship with someone that age! Ugh. I hate how sometimes it takes you being that persons age to have enough clarity on it. I hope JoJo gets that clarity before then, hopefully by her mid-20s when the brain is supposedly done forming and things become clearer
Trisha did it with Peter Monn, too. She was super upset that he made some negative content about her after she tried to be friendly with him. She very much seems to think that if she's nice to you that you cannot criticize her. May be a hard behavior to break.
Rachel talks opening about sex constantly with Jojo. On the podcasts. It’s something I always thought was weird because Rachel literally watched her grow up. I couldn’t imagine as an adult talking about my sex life with my nieces and nephews. The sex talk… ok I’ve done that because I did have a huge hand in raising them but to ever speak on my sex life. That’s traumatizing just thinking of doing that.
JoJo’s been groomed her entire life in one way or another, and that’s why the arrogant snot can’t wrap her mind around it. JoJo is a special beast, she’s self-made, actually talented, but has been raised her entire life by being pushed and praised by adults. Her childhood was robbed from her, look at her rn- her mannerisms and everything is of a 40yo. Then to say an abuser was nice to her, must mean all victims of nice abuser should be nothing but lies. JoJo will not learn from this until a huge deep dive into her life under the guidance of therapy.
I’m going through something similar. I blew a whistle and stories started poring out. But for some reason I’m the only one being attacked. “Don’t listen to one little person/ one little story” except it’s not. The defenders are so quick to say “That’s not true because it didn’t happen to me” well good for you. That doesn’t take away from the rest.
It’s even worse when they say shit like “that didn’t happen to you though” full on gaslighting you into thinking you’re wrong when you’re actually right. It’s so fucked up.
@@InfiniteCookie3-jo2bb yea i didnt even specifically accuse. Just said a name & told others to be aware. Not only did people come forward but apparently there is some ch!ld trfkng involved. Much bigger than my story. But still you have those who will defend because it didnt happen to them. Smh.
jojo just should've said "that wasn't my experience but i can't speak to other people's experiences". that is all she had to say. it's not hard at all to defend someone - within the parameters of your own experience with them- while acknowledging that you only know that person in the context of your experience with them and thereby avoid undermining victims.
One thing I don't understand is why Rachel Ballinger is getting left out of all of this. She has just been posting like normal as if nothing has happened
Trisha has had experience and now she’s a Mother she knows she’d NEVER let her child be friend with an adult. Parents who let their children have these relationships are disgusting.
I think adults and children can be "friends" (for lack of a better word) to an extent, but there needs to be WAY more boundaries than a friendship between two adults or two children. There are family friends of mine that I've been friends with since I was a child, but they never talked to me about adult subjects or anything inappropriate as a child.
As a 27 y/o (who was emancipated at 16) i felt this feeling and recognized the growth each year until about 24ish. Each year felt exponential in comparison then after that there is a feeling about age, wisdom, and nostalgia that you sit with. It’s not a bad place to be if you take care of yourself. If you struggle, you learn that priority is you. Formative years are intense but not forever, dont worry 🫶
trisha's growth is just beautiful and amazing. since her becoming a mom, I feel like there's an undeniable growth she's had. She's on point, everything she said
My jaw dropped when she said you continued to make hate videos on her because I feel like you have been NOTHING but kind, supportive, respectful and understanding.
"am I gonna think that next year?" As someone who is 27? You're going to continue to think that way every year, until your mid to late twenties at the least. I still look back at early twenties and look at the ways my brain was clearly underdeveloped. I'm sure I'll think the same when I'm in my thirties but can confirm, it doesn't end. ( I dont go "oh I was so young" looking back at when I was 26 or 25 tho. Currently the cut off has been pre-25)
Adam, I'm 25, and I think of myself at 21 as a baby 😂 hope you have/had a great 21st birthday and keep fighting back against the four horsemen of TH-cam
like she is 100% right in what she is saying and people are allowed to criticize things that are wrong even if they have done themselves…but girl don’t act like you’re a beacon of morality when u did weird stuff too
wait what happened w trevi moran??? i looked her up & even included "controversy" and "groomer" and i got nothing??? i was never a big fan and really only know of her by association
For people who don't know/don't want to look it up : Rachel Ballinger is 12 years older than JoJo, which means they were 12 and 24 when they first started hanging out (through Coleen, I presume?). Extremely creepy and weird.
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I would love to see you do a comparison of Coleens behavior vs the xomg pop scandal where jojo and her mom were shading the girl with a disability in her group.
Just subbed to the second channel✌️😎✌️
I just thought of it but a defamation class action lawsuit against Colleen. Do you have any to you about her net worth? You can also ask for a judge to give consequences like she's no longer allowed to do certain things not just monetary sanctions you might be able to keep her from the Internet
Look up “Jojo’s Juice Game” scandal. Super inappropriate game, asking kids >3+ about them being naked…
Hi I wasn't fully aware of the extent of jojo and Rachel's relationship until this video make me do some searching, the first video I clicked on has shocked me it's called coming out to eachother jojo s1 ep4 on Rachel's podcasts channel, I feel like this needs to be made aware its really creepy and I'm not sure how you could play it off as it just being uncensored, how is she so comfortable talking about that kind of stuff like in the first few seconds of the video
also, jojo saying "there's grooming and there's REAL grooming" is SO johnny-core
Colleen really needs to stop using "openly admitting to 'lesser' crimes" as a defence tactic.
Johnnycore I can’t 💀
Jojo was groomed , she defends groomers, but people forget she’s an adult so she probably also becoming a groomer considering her fans are kids she hangs out with little kids etc
@kateregan8738 I was fr thinking the same thing earlier today. She surrounds herself in this type of environment so much that I wouldn't be surprised of future allegations. Hopefully she realized she's a victim before turning others into victims as well.
Not johnnycore 😂
Trotting out your little friend that you groomed from childhood to defend you is, frankly, stupid.
So true
Nailed it. It’s even more creepy.
Whoever is Jojo's PR person (probably her mom/manager) NEEDS to be fired.
@@khaleesireyna731they’re probably freaking out because they likely didn’t expect sweet ole howie to bring it up but they must bit don their research well because he’s had a hard stance against Colleen this entire time lol
exactly. i don’t know if she thought that having jojo-someone she befriended when they were TWELVE 😑 would help her case ??? it doesn’t 😭
Jojo is the definition of groomed as a kid. She has been in the public eye being used by the adults im her life, and now she thinks it's fine. She is way too close to see how fucked this really is. I feel sorry for her, but she is responsible for her words and actions. She is an adult now. And adults have consequences, sooner or later.
not to mention that she is in a position where she can influence todays youth, and by saying what she’s saying and associating with people like james and colleen it’s sending a really bad message to her kid and teenage audience, she’s a victim but she’s also an adult and irresponsible with her platform
One can face backlash standing up to the internet, which truly shows bravery. The internet isn’t reserved for just the popular opinion.
exactly. she's normalizing these kinds of inappropriate relationships and interactions to her young fans by standing by people like colleen and james. @@ultimatequeenofdeath666
I've been talking about this elsewhere but it's important. PSA for the girls and young women out here: if you have someone much older than you around telling you how you're sooooooooo mature and all that.... You aren't. They want something from you and you need to do everything in your power to say far away from that person.
This is an extremely common manipulation (g-r-o-o-m-i-n-g) technique used on young girls. It's normal that you feel alienated-the world is especially cruel to you-of course you can't wait to grow up, and that attention from older people makes you feel good... But they are not your friend, that cool older guy who flirts with you is a LOSER creep, and they are not your escape from the cruel misogyny directed at young girls and women. You're enough, protect yourself 💜
@sambugos4237 are you defending Jojo defending Colleen 💀
This is all so sad. Jojo needs therapy.
I wouldn't trust my kid around Jojo. She doesn't know what appropriate behavior with children looks like. And now she's the adult.
True. Well said
Agreed
Such a scary thing to think about "and now she's the adult" really puts things in perspective so very disheartening
This is so true and sooo unsettling.
Yep. The cycle will repeat with Jojo. I’d be interested to see if she’s got group chats happening.
Jojo pulling the "I was groomed and I turned out fine!" on the other victims nooooo 😱😱💀
She said that???
she came outta the gate calling it all a lie
But she didn’t come out fine if she thinks grooming was okay even Abbey in dance moms grooming her
That was exactly her angle
I wonder what pics did Colleen send trista that made her felt very disturb
Jojo Siwa was trained to please adults. point blank. who knows all of the effects on a developing brain!
you took the words right out of my mouth. It's sad really. I want her to learn her boundries. I think shes a good person underneath all the grroming.
@@tired.5565 Who tf groomeec her? Was she assaulted or raped? You've used the word so much, you don't even know what it means.
Exactly, especially the first 7 years of developing
She thinks she’s defending Colleen when she’s really just proving the existence of her grooming. And she has no idea.
Even worse. She was trained to please adults _by dancing and posing for their cameras._
"but they were nice to me" is such a shit take. even serial killers were nice to some people while they were still on their killing spree, it doesnt change the fact that they were still killing people. like wtf. just because they were nice to you doesnt mean they can be excused from their actions
This was exactly my take too. She kept saying how “nice they were” to her so they can’t be bad people. How ignorant can you be like??
“but they were nice to me”- Ashton Kutcher and Mila Kunis about their good friend the r4pist
edit: **convicted** r4p1st
It’s more I think she can’t comprehend it at all since ‘she’s been so nice to her’ which was just grooming along with so many other adults in the last 10years that have groomed and exploited her. She will only realise how wrong these relationships she had were when she’s 24/25.
💯💯 Bad people do nice things all the time, but it’s always self-serving. People should know this by now.
Huh! The reason Danny Masterson got convicted was because he r**word ed famous actresses whom society actually takes seriously! 😒 😐
hope to not victim-name Jane Doe 2 or victim-naming here but… now it makes SENSE!!!
Bye bye Danny.
Jojo Siwa 1000000% has the ability to possibly groom other children in her adulthood. She thinks this it totally normal and that this behavior is fine and okay. This is exactly what the cycle of abuse looks like. It's sad, and part of me wants to feel sorry/bad for her, but at some point there has to be a moment when she needs to wake tf up. She's still young and I'm hoping she will realize it, but the whole situation just frustrates me.
Definitely agree. Onison and his partner, Kai, immediately come to mind. Kai was a victim of Onision till they became an adult decided to repeat that behavior and bring minors into their relationship. Now Kai has their own victims.
This is the smartest comment I’ve read. I also have lots of empathy for her relationship with toxic adults but she is almost my age. It’s time to own our shit.
now she mentors her own girl group.
@@bribri9680 Not the point at all, but that's very sweet of you to say 😅 I've studied psychology a lot since my teen years so thank you!
It's just frustrating when she's literally SO close to realizing that she's being groomed by saying things like "Well, she's my idol and my situation is different because we're REAL FRIENDS." Like honey, you are 🤏THIIIIIIIS🤏 close.
@@ChiZillaaa yeahhhh I’ve been interested in that field for years. Getting my social work degree now and after seeing all this there NEEDS to be reform on how entertainment industry, especially online, exploits and profits off children. Probably why jojo thinks this is normal. She’s been the breadwinner and a mini adult since before she was a teenager.
Props to you and Trisha for communicating maturely. You being able to voice when you're upset with her without attacking her character, her being able to email you explaining her disclaimer and apologising for not meaning for it to cause you to recieve hate. Adults make mistakes like these, and it's about being able to rectify them, I hope more people can look to how you handle conflict. Amazing job, Adam
People don't give Trisha credit for her boundaries and what she's learned since she was early/mid 20s. As a former HS teacher, I ABSOLUTELY knew the types of groomers she discusses. The fact that it's NOT illegal is disgusting, because we can't *DO* anything about it w/o legislation.
This. This is why I’m pursuing a career in law. In my lifetime this will change. Stay strong. Stay aware. 🫶
That's why it is crucial to an open line of communication with your children where you speak about these things often. I'm a candidate attorney and what we do when this happens is issue protection orders immediately halting any type of contract the fucker has with the child.
@@sheinakinn2936 It's what my mum successfully did and to this day, 21, it still works. I may be starting to annoy her...
@@siracastori01 And you know what, you'll do the same for your kids if you have any or your nieces or nephews because them being irritated or awkward with the constant discussions as opposed to traumatized is perfect.
@KittyTink you go!! Make this world a better place ❤ good luck with your studies xx
One particularly unsettling thing is that Jojo is now an adult and has put herself in a mentorship/teaching role with MANY young children through her dance groups. Alarming that someone who clearly has not unpacked the grooming she experienced herself, and who has such a skewed idea of boundaries and what constitutes a “normal” relationship between adults and kids, is currently in such a position of power with access to young kids herself.
Bullseye 🎯
yep, and that’s how we get so many predators….
Oh god. The cycle of abuse in action.
Major red flags 🚩🚩🚩
OMG You actually predicted it
As a fellow bpd sufferer I’m so proud of her tremendous growth. The maturity and emotional regulation she’s exhibited during this horrific situation is truly beautiful and amazing and I hope she finds actual friends who care about her instead of just using her
omg Trisha has BPD? Yo Adam try to be more patient with Trish, it's really hard for people who suffer from that to stop fixating on criticism.
You may have only done like 1 or 2 videos where you criticized her for claiming ignorance to your situation, but her perception will blow that up. The comment from her seems like it comes out of nowhere for you, but Trish probably thought a lot about the things you've said. I'm glad you both are handling your rapport with each other privately. We're all on the same side here.
@@pdspear1this is a v old thing most people know and I wouldnt put her actions always under the BPD range when you dont know the person
She has never been diagnosed with BPD. An online therapist telling her she thinks she has some symptoms is not a diagnosis.
@@Jasmine-lj1ou I believe Trisha herself has talked about being diagnosed and has mentioned it a few times. Maybe Katie’s video came out first and Trisha decided to get it checked out because of it but I’m almost 100% positive she herself has discussed it
Trisha said in her first video addressing the Colleen situation that she was diagnosed with BPD.
She’s been in therapy to figure out why she was acting the way she was when she was doing her kitchen floor videos, and when she was diagnosed she developed ways to regulate her emotions and to think before making a video reacting to things.
trisha calling it a banishment is so yasssssssss. cancel has lost its meaning completely and truly banishment is such a good word for it i love that so much. 💀💀
banishment sounds borderline medieval but i think that's cool as fuck
There is a big difference between being a mentor and being a friend. My daughter gardens with the elderly female neighbor and it’s precious. That’s an instance children can be friends with an adult…it’s another type of friendship. Colleen was trying to be besties with Jojo which is creepy and groomy.
Was coming to say something along these lines. I think it is important for kids to have other trusted adults in their lives that they can go to if they can't talk to their parents about something (this is especially important for lgbtq+ kids or any kid who might be in an unsafe home situation), and that can't be limited to teachers or other authority figures that the kid thinks might get them in trouble if they go there either. I get where people are coming from when they're like "No adult should be friends with a kid EVER" but I do think it can be dangerous to swing too far in that direction. Kids and adults can be friends, but a different type of friendship, like you were describing. The adult needs to know what boundaries to draw and what is and isn't appropriate to do/talk about.
@@leslienope I agree with this. I'm not sure if it's quite safe to make children afraid of EVERY adult, ofc stranger danger and caution should be advised, but every child should be made aware what friendships that are healthy and what friendships that aren't look like between an adult and a minor.
@@bobtheball5384exactly, and also, teaching them what those healthy and unhealthy dynamics look like will serve them a lot better as they grow up and enter adulthood than just teaching them to be afraid.
I think it was straight up using her for her fame
@@bobtheball5384 Exactly? I'm a 16 year old and I have an 11 y/o cousin. I am aware she is way younger than me. But the difference is we do innocent things like hang out and talk about normal things. Colleen was almost two decades older than her victims and talked way too much about her life and dumped everything onto her victims. Like why are you talking about your divorce with a bunch of children? Why are you talking about adult things with children?!
I only hope that Jojo soon realizes that given the specifics of the situation that there is a HUGE difference between
"I've known Colleen since I was 12" (inappropriate)
Versus
"I've known OF Colleen since I was 12" (appropriate).
Sry, but the way you capitalized "of" made it seem like an acronym, and the first acronym I thought of was... you know XD /j
@@krazykookie23 yeah, I realized that after posting and was hoping it'd go unnoticed. Fail. Lol
I don’t see your logic here. They are both celebrities. Jojo was someone famous at a young age. And Colleen is someone famous also. They both collab’d on a video when Jojo was 12 on a Miranda Sings video. Quit reaching.
@@sambugos4237 Far from reaching. In fact, no extension has been made at all.
@sambugos4237 the problem is the weird dynamic outside of the collab. Colleen was trying to act like a "bestie" to her despite the big age difference. I don't think anyone would complain about a harmless collab.
We all know that Colleen put Jojo up to doing that interview. She uses who ever she can ,to try change the narrative .Colleen needs to be held accountable for these things. More then she is. Adam im so sorry you're childhood was hurt by that creep. 💔
This is so true! She has literally children defending her online and now she sent a former child star to defend her name. Colleen is so lame and we can all see that now.
Amen!!! And the sad truth is. That Colleen started this weird attraction to children even before Jojo. She met and became friends with Ariana Grande first. Colleen as Miranda did a guest appearance on Sam and Cat. Was because of Ariana. Colleen is a menace to society. She needs to be held accountable for what she’s doing.
It's the tactful manipulation. Colleen would have just garnered pity and sympathy, got JoJo on her side and made JoJo believe that Colleen was the victim, so that JoJo is doing this 'of her own accord'. Saying things to manipulated JoJo's mind like, '"You wouldn't let anyone say that stuff about me, right? You know me. We're best friends. I have your back and you have mine, right?"
yes grooming doesn’t have to be sexual but let’s not forget that colleen would often make things sexual while talking to minors. she may not have wanted actual sex with them but she was also sexually grooming them.
The whole “but they were nice to ME” argument is insane. This happens all the time (I’m Asian) when I mention that a mutual acquaintance has done/said racist things and the person I’m telling goes, “oh well I’VE never seen them do that.” Well of COURSE you haven’t Karen. You’re white…. 🙄
“but they were nice to me” - Ashton Kutcher and Mila Kunis about their good friend the convicted r4pist
Of course they're nice to you, you're not their target demo.
Felt this as a black person
People even do it was SA/SH, “ well he wasn’t a creep or touch me !”
Okay 😐 but he did do something to me/them? It’s not about you it’s about the victim ?!?..
I’ve definitely felt this as a non-binary person too. Someone will continuously disrespect my pronouns but my friends will be like “they’ve never done that to me” when they literally use binary pronouns like she/her or he/him
As someone who never had a childhood due to truama. I cannot stand people who think it's good to have "mature children" mature children means something very traumatic happened.
I had to grow up fast to survive. I was making my own meals at like 5/6. I learned how to safely use the stove..and take "care" of myself.. obviously I wasn't taking great care of myself. But it was enough to survive. My mom was checked out and my dad not around.
I lost my only bff at 9..
I was so emotionally disconnected from my peers. It felt like I was the only one it was okay to bully and harass mentally and physically. Even teachers and teachers aids joined in.
No one understood me in my peer group because they where all having actual childhoods..
Mature children are traumatized children. Some healthy, well-adjusted children are comparatively responsible or intelligent, but kids who aren’t just nurturing, but parental, who aren’t just well-read, but worldly, who aren’t just articulate, but seem adult-that’s not a mature child, it’s a hurt child. I’m so sorry you didn’t get to have a childhood. It wasn’t fair, and it’s so wrong that adults who should have protected you joined in on the bullying. I wish you healing, freedom, and joy in your adulthood. ❤️🩹
I’m so sorry you went through that. I went through similar trauma as a child and I wouldn’t wish that kind of pain/hurt on anyone. No child deserves to have their innocence ripped away from them. The saying “all kids deserve parents, but not all parents deserve kids” is the truest thing. Hope you’re doing well now
Exactly! A “mature” child is a child that has endured a lot of trauma. My parents divorced when I was five and my narcissist mother (who also has other untreated mental illnesses) was checked out when she wasn’t abusing us so I had to teach myself how to cook, clean, do laundry, etc. to take care of myself and my two younger sisters. Add onto that my uncle (my mother’s brother) molesting me from age 3 and my mother allowing it to continue when I went to her after it first happened. I had to grow up quickly and I was way more mature than a majority of my peer group as well. I too have had to deal with having my best friend pass away. It has taken me a lot of therapy, EMDR, etc. to get to the point that I am not constantly triggered, but this isn’t something I would wish upon any child. Not having the opportunity to have a childhood was brutal. And I am so sorry to hear that you experienced something similar to me growing up. 💔 I wish you all of the best on your healing journey. 💞
@fukaikokoro I grew up a mature child because my parents loved and taught me to respect people, my parents expected well behavior from all of us growing up or else there would be consequences. You and everyone agreeing with you need to change their mindset on "mature" children, didnt have anyone to guide you so you took the initiative to lead yourself, thats willpower thats not being traumatized. Keep an open mind that your childhood is just YOUR childhood. Everyone goes through trauma but not everyone becomes mature after the trauma they go through, some people go through a hell amount of trauma as kids and some of those same kids are now the most immature adults in the world right now, they are also deemed by the government "undeveloped" !! @sngray11
I know Jojo was young when she meet these people, but she is an adult know should be able to look at the mountain of evidence and see when someone is is the wrong, using kids for your own selfish gain is wrong.
She's gonna look back at this when she's older and recognise it, I think. I remember my early twenties thinking I was so mature, and frankly? I wasn't
she's still deep in the manipulation. it took Adam being out of the friendship to realize just how bad it was and how much he was groomed and manipulated. Jojo, right now, is still in it and thinks the "good" side Colleen is presenting to her is her real self and who knows what Colleen is telling her behind the scenes, playing the victim. plus when you're in your early 20's, you're still immature and Jojo has definitely some stunted growth due to her lifestyle. give it time and Jojo will eventually see what we all see and come to terms with it and realize Colleen has used her too. when you only see someone's good side, its hard to believe when you hear bad things about them until, a lot of the time, you're out of the friendship or they show their true colors to your face.
@@HelloXrancidkittehI mean yeah, this maybe excuses her for Colleen. But it doesn't excuse her for promoting James Charles and literally every other predator on TH-cam.
@@HelloXrancidkitteh Yes and unfortunately a big part of what has stunted her growth is that she has spent her life in an adult environment so she thinks that she is mentally older than other people her age. In some ways she is, not everyone can pull off a tour at 16 and already have yourself as a brand before that. There is something missing though or they would have been able to replicate that with XOMG Pop and so far they haven't figured that out.
Just because you're an adult does not mean you are rid from abuse, gas-lighting, and grooming that shaped you into literally what you are. That takes years and usually therapy. That's the exact same as victim blaming. She can be called out and held accountable without jabbing a finger in her face of "you should know better". She was never taught better and being an adult doesn't give you magical knowledge of how deeply you were abused.
Good to know that Trisha is actually changing her behavior and handling situation in a more mature and classy way. Also pretty sad that Jojo has been groomed and used her whole childhood and not even her parents were standing up for her. But now it's so hard to feel bad for her now thats she an adult and even helping others groom her audience of children.
Agree with everything. Hoping Trish stays on this trajectory. Hopefully Jojo can grow and do better, too. She's gonna have a lot to unpack in therapy someday.
yup i agree
Not holding my breath, but maybe this pushback is the wake-up call she needs to see how effed everything has been for her.
Still waiting on Trisha to apologize and to stop monetizing her baby ⏰
It's honestly sad, like Jojo has been adopted into so many terrible friendships with adults that end up being Groomers/predators. Anytime someone comes out about her "friends" she gets defensive because "They were super nice to me."
the sexual jokes colleen did in her “skit” with jojo is beyond vile. i cannot imagine how sick you have to be to sexualize a child, even as a joke. it happened to me all my life, & i’m not even remotely famous. i was sexually abused as a child & these “jokes” by family members made me think feeling this uncomfortable in my body & so “dirty” was normal, that when i got fucking raped it was OK because it wasn’t a stranger. i’m not saying ANY of this is happening to jojo or any child affiliated with these youtubers but i just wish people knew how harmful making sexual jokes about children. it can remove their sense of autonomy. it can desensitize them, make them hyper-sensitive, blah blah… it can go so far as to make a child not speak out about a crime committed against them because they don’t understand that they deserve basic boundaries. truly vile.
I was a child actor. I grew up around adults, I grew up around predators. Jojo needs to really find a good therapist who will help her analyse some of the stuff that has happened in her life, or she is going to end up excusing predators for the rest of her life-- or worse, learning from them.
"Am I gonna be 21 and think, 'Holy shit, I knew nothing at 20.'?" I'm 22 and the answer is yes, and it will never stop. That's the beauty of the human experience baby!! We get to grow and change and mature and learn. The sooner we accept that we know jack shit about ourselves and the world, the sooner we open up to real understanding. Hope you're well kiddo!!!!
I'm 26 and second this 🥴 tho I will say around when I turned 25 I got hit with a huge wave a mental clarity and things have kind of mellowed out since then. I was able to look back at a ton of things I've done/that were done to me and finally see them for what they are and forgive myself, which was nice
@@eanneikin that pre-frontal cortex finished developing I reckon, that's about the age where it happens of a lot of ppl. can't wait for that to be me
Let’s all acknowledge how absolutely adult trisha is being. It’s a breath of fresh air.
I have so much more respect for her for the way she’s handled this situation so seriously and the way she’s speaking up when it would maybe be easier to “forget about all this,” or to move on after her first video addressing it
Absolutely not. 😂
She doesn’t deserve praise.
@@jennanoftell9102 fully agree. ❤️
Yeah, I know she's had her controversy but I'm glad she's being a decent person.
@@vibrantgleam decent!? 🤡
it’s terrifying that the biggest person speaking out in support of colleen is potentially the one who’s been groomed the deepest by the entire family, in the darkest ways that we don’t even know about yet.
Trish & I were pregnant to the day together with our first babies. It was actually kinda funny. Same due dates. Same days pregnant. I really changed completely as a person. And watching that also happen to her in ways has been another funny coincidence of it all. And i’m happy it has changed her. The difference is: Colleen was a new mother sending nudes around. Trisha was a new mother finding out her friend had done that.
I wouldn’t say she changed, I’d give her some time tbh. It could just be a phase she’s trying 😅. That’s just how I approach people like her, give it some time. Hope I’m wrong!
@@FabiolaMacabrechill. i’m not out here saying she’s a saint. i said she’s changed in some ways. she’s still incredibly immature in others. but i’m not foolish enough to sit here and act like i know anyone personally off videos. or make anyone list the pros and cons of a person.
@@FabiolaMacabreI personally believe that malibu is the reason she isn't trolling and being a shit head anymore just because mailbu brings in the money. She hasn't made many videos with her now because she is getting money from talking about all the drama, bur once that all blows over and views get low. She'll start making tons of videos containing malibu bi really feel like she hasn't changed she just had something else making her money now.
Not something to brag about 😷
@@allison257girl huh
I have a friendship with my 13 year old niece. But like...boundaries are a thing. I mostly encourage her to keep doing art, not wanting to be her bestie and in her group chats lmao. She's an awesome young person, but there are such things as just being an encouraging aunt or outsider and then moving on with your day. Not creating group chats with them and their friends, that's just weird.
Well, you're her aunt.
So it's okay to hang out with her. As long as you still act like an adult around her and not a getting involved in all of her kid group. Not insinuating you are
yeah, def not getting involved in kid group chats or friend groups. That would be weird. she's a cool kid. I can't understand how people would hurt kids.@@personincognito3989
That's your niece though x it's like how I feel like my daughter is my best friend but I'm also her parent and set boundaries and keep a look out for her safety and wellbeing
I'm very close with my 12 year old niece. She trusts me and talks to me about everything including the boy she likes. I have never met her friends or wanted to spend time with them. I take my niece out shopping or whatever but it's totally not creepy like this. Children do need adults they trust as long as you have boundaries. I try to make sure she has self worth and won't fall into peer pressure bc she's had a hard life. I got her to safety 2 years ago finally but I'm aware the damage is done. That's why I probably do have a closer relationship with her than I normally would've but the poor girl has to know she's cared for. But it's not like I go to her sleep overs or her middle school football games or any of those things. I go to the sports games she plays in or events for her but it's still a separate thing. I follow her on tiktok but not any of her friends and I never comment bc I don't want to engage with anyone but my niece who is my family. She lived with me until she was 3 so it would be weird to not have a relationship with her. That's not what any of this is about.
And to add, there's a big difference between having a close relationship with your niece and sending nudes and talking about your sex life with them. Big no.
I’m so glad Trisha reached out in a private and mature way to try and smooth things over between her and Adam. I hope they can really become cool with each other.
@@JosephsCloud I don't think he is criticizing her just sharing his feelings and has spoken neutral if not positive. They both are working it out.
Pataz is a literal sex offender, what are you on about? You've all gone mad.
Justice for you, Becky, Oliver, Alex, Ella and everyone who chooses to remain anonymous during this. We won't be quiet about child abuse, online or off.
The only thing in common between Colleen and JoJo is their viewership. All the Ballingers want is cross-pollination of fans on the internet, and now they're trying to use JoJo as a character witness, because they need someone to say that Colleen didn't outright abuse them, instead of handling this situation legally like they're supposed to.
You’ve been very gracious towards Trisha throughout this entire situation!
Yes!!!
He really has.
@@JosephsCloudthat’s valid, she can’t expect to be a poop head in the past and people just forgetting. You can be kind and continue holding people accountable.
@@JosephsCloudyou’re allowed to criticize bad actions/ lies that a creator has done, whilst still acknowledging that you’re civil with each other. Just because you’re at peace with someone doesn’t mean you should just turn a blind eye and ignore the bad things they do
@@JosephsCloud he is a fricken commentary channel. Trisha can’t expect him NOT to talk about the stuff going on, simply because they “made up” it’s not like he’s shit talking her and calling her a hot ass mess like he used to. He commentates while also being respectful towards her. But she expects drama channels to not talk about her at all if she befriends them. Thats just not how it works.
if colleen genuinely cared about Jojo she would have warded her away from defending her publicly, because she must have known she was going to take Jojo's career out with her.. i just had a realisation, what if colleen wants Jojos career to fail because hers is.
What is more worrying is who is in Jojo's life that doesn't support Colleen?
Colleen is a narcissist so will never see herself at fault. She truly believes the victims are wrong
One thing I really want to give Adam credit for is the fact that his stance doesn't change based on whether or not he likes the person he's speaking about. It's SO easy to get caught up in bias when we think about various situations, but I've noticed that he stays very consistent and fair by not letting personal feelings override his original stance on a matter. Huge props to you for that Adam, I think that shows strong integrity :)
The whole Dance Moms thing was just extended through other people as well, and their relationships with these girls were all inappropriate. I've noticed people aren't talking very much about Sia. Her relationship with Maddie Ziegler always seemed weird to me too. I just hope these girls can finally realize what kinds of people they've been dealing with and can finally remove themselves from these situations.
I saw lots of people talking about it when the movie Music came out especially with some of the things that Sia said while she was promoting it. Would be interesting to know what their relationship is these days as she isn't someone that you hear the Ziegler's talking about anymore (if they have I haven't seen it)
@@amandamandamands I remember that. I hope that means she isn't around the family anymore.
She slept in a bed with maddie and still didn’t cancelled for it
@@AmyAberrant It's bizarre. Truly.
If you want to see the effects of children having adult friends and the damage that it can do… look at Drew Barrymore. It is insane. Her life as a very young child , was unbelievable.
The same thing happened to Tatum O'Neill. What happened to her was just like what happened to Drew. Tatum's father and mother were considered Hollywood royalty and she grew up in an environment where she was not treated like a child and was allowed to go to adult Hollywood parties both at home and at the homes of other actors. She has spoken up about it up until her death, about how Hollywood preys on the young.
This! Such a good insight because she’s an adult now talking about things she wished she could’ve changed
She only gave Trish an apology because she was hoping if she did that she wouldn't actually talk about it. It would be a it's okay I forgive you and sweep it under the rug.
THISS!
As someone who was preyed on as a 12 year old by a guy who preyed on other people my age, I see where JoJo is coming from. I have been able to unravel how f*cked what happened to me was, but another girl my age married my abuser and had a child with him. It triggered me very much when I happened across her on social media and thought “I wonder how her life is going!” and had to see her hospital pictures with my abuser and their child… but she’s still stuck under his control and I am not. Like we keep saying, there are no perfect victims. Unfortunately, JoJo is still stuck under Colleen’s control, and she may be for a long time. Considering her continued defense of ALM, I think it might take a drastic event and some very intensive therapy for her to finally see she’s been used and groomed by nearly every adult in her life. I don’t think she realizes that it’s okay to admit people helped to get you where you are while also disavowing them as a person. It’s obvious she feels beholden to these people for her fame and success. It’s really so sad
She isn't lying about her feelings about children cause if u go back in the day and watch her video with her and JoJo collaboration...she wasn't liking the fact that there wouldn't be another adult in JoJo's house with the 2 of them...she keeps asking if her mom was there...she acted very paranoid about being alone with someone underage, so I believe her
Jojo has been groomed to please adults all her life. TV executives, dance coaches and hell even her parents! She was easy pickings for Colleen to attack. She's never been allowed to just "be" an ordinary kid!
Like Michael Jackson 😢
15:47 Omg… OBVIOUSLY they’re going to be “nice to you”. I hate that mentality. Abusers don’t just start cussing you out and manipulating you on the get. They act nice to you, get to know you, use your weaknesses against you. Thats why its hard to break from an abusers cycle. Jojo was only a stepping stone for Colleen. She was only a means to reach an audience, and use her platform for her to say “she was nice to me”.
Even IF she apologized, it wouldn't be genuine. It wasn't for Trisha, it was to try to keep her quiet
This situation with Jojo is an example of *successful* grooming. Building on the power dynamic, becoming the idol, creating such closeness that it blinds the victim from truth. The loyalty is so strong and that is the goal of the abuser. It’s really sad and I hope that there can be a perspective shift for jojo because she is young and she is also a victim of Colleen. This interview supports your story, Becky’s story, Oliver’s story and every person affected by the Ballinger family- more than it may feel right now.
as disappointed as i am to see jojo invalidate the victims, i can now see why she would. you couldn't have designed a better dissenter. she's been groomed her whole life, I'm sure people are still telling her "youre so mature for your age" even all that aside, she was not in any position to comment on the situation at all
Trisha has been very understanding and ive actually enjoyed watching her sometimes now. Regardless of her past, she is very smart. Its a love hate relationship with me. I have hated some of her videos, then i like some.
I appreciate her sticking up for whats right.
She just needs to keep her baby off the internet if she says she doesn't tolerate pedos
@personincognito3989 I haven't seen much of her daughter since she and Moses announced her birth, is she making a bunch of content centered around her daughter or just posting a picture or video of her every now and again (genuinely asking)?
@kharper0527 she makes a lot of tik toks with her daughter. You can tell she really loves her daughter. ❤️
@@KaseyNlopez not enough to tell Colleen Ballinger off when they were posting TH-cam videos together and she was 12. If you as a parent are just like "OK sweetie, have fun making videos with the 32 year old woman that you met on the internet" and you DON'T step in when said 32 year old woman does weird videos, such as SHOWING JOJO SIWA HER VIDEO OF HER GIVING BIRTH (that was an actual reaction video they did together btw)... I'm sorry you're not being a responsible parent for taking you're kid out of that situation. Period. If her mother isn't stepping in on the serious shit like that, but they're making cute little tik toks, that sounds like mom wants to be besties with her daughter instead of parenting her 12 year old (at the time).
@kharper0527 The point I'm trying to make is that a parent who decides to vlog their children don't have to get hate all because the internet has so many pedos!!! I try to keep my son safe every second. We live in the times of social media and the internet.
Regardless if we try to keep our kids on the internet, it does not eliminate the possibility of having pedos and sick people around our children while out and about.
It’s seriously been so amazing watching Trisha grow as a person over these past few years, and especially after she had her daughter. You can tell she has become MUCH more mature and mentally-sane, and I’m honestly so proud of her and what she has accomplished.
She has truly been through so much growth, and I hope she is happy that she seems to be in such a good place right now, despite everything that has been going on around her recently.
It just makes me really glad for her and her little family that she has turned into a much better person than she used to be, and I’m excited to continue watching her change and realize how much her past actions have negatively affected people.
I’m happy to hear that you and her have come to some sort of middle-ground as well. You and her being able to have an adult conversation and her being able to apologize for indirectly causing you to get hate is great to hear about!
As a long time Trish fan, I have appreciated the way you’ve treated her during this entire process
Trisha has done a lotta fucked up stuff and not addressed it though so i get it. but i could also be mistaken about the “not addressed it” part
@@JosephsCloud I thought he speaks of her relatively highly, while still respectfully disagreeing with her on some situations. I respect Adam's approach.
@@JosephsCloud she's a bad person who did shitty things.
@@ember9361not a fan of trisha but she’s clearly made an effort to change i don’t think it’s fair to keep seeing a changing person as their past fuck ups
@@JosephsCloudhe’s just speaking his mind. They aren’t friends nor really like one another, but he’s been respectful and given her tons of props where, idk if she deserves it yet considering she still wants to be a family vlogger. I’m not sure if this situation has changed her stance, but I doubt it.
You did a good job explaining your feelings I’m glad you two connected and feel good about the resolution.
Trisha is unstable, but she is aware of it, and she's getting help. So it makes sense things would be confusing between you. But it's great that she contacted you and wanted to make it up to you.
Trisha is not unstable.
Banishment is the perfect word for it! It essentially means she’s been told to go away and means “the action of getting rid of something unwanted” which is exactly the truth 🤷🏽♀️ might be the new word for cancelled 😂🤣
Plus it’s just so much more colonial sounding like “Colleen, thou hast been banished from this land!!” which makes it fun
The Dance Mom kids were just prepped for being taken advantage of with that show... Sia had a weird fixation on Maddie Ziegler for awhile too that seemed really creepy at the time, going beyond just featuring her in some videos...
PSA. If someone older than you tells you they want to hangout with you and like you because "you are so mature for your age". You aren't. You are not cooler or more mature than the kids your age. If the person you look up to doesn't have friends their age it is a major red flag. Nobody would be caught dead hanging out with a 12 year old and unironically call them their friend. It's not normal, it's weird and that person has problems. I wish someone had told me that and it took me way too long to realize it.
i saw that and i really didn’t think it was true. i think she thinks you don’t like her and she’s sensitive about it. what she says about Jojo is 100% true and very similar to what your reaction to the Howie podcast was.
honestly if people are saying that you've been too harsh on trisha in this situation they clearly haven't watched any of your videos. you've been very fair and have shown a lot of compassion to her imo.
I hope Trisha continues to mature, take accountability, and grow as a person. I'm always rooting for someone bettering themselves.
Lol you’re a chump.
A year ago I would have never thought I could ever have an ox of respect for anything Trisha did. I still hate a lot of her past, but I’m glad to have encountered a situation that I can say “hey, yeah, people are nuanced and complicated and I can respect this person in this instance”
@@MilesMilesCrocodiles girl pull the wool from your eyes you’re being played 🤡
Adam, you’re a class act. Your deleted tweet was perfect, and I love how you took the high road.
A class act isn’t scapegoating using your ethnicity as an apology because you choose to make unnecessary digs at a an unborn child.
What was the tweet?
@@alohataye2566It was literally misinterpreted
@@alohataye2566 girl he messed up by not adding context, he was shitting on the dead queen
he’s already addressed this and he said it wasn’t abt trisha 😭 what r u on?
I am so proud of trisha for being mature about what happened she's growing as a person
She's honestly one of the rare cases of a very problematic person actually reflecting on the trouble they caused, admitting to it, and taking a step back to work on it. Regardless of how you feel about her, it is hard to ignore the genuine growth she's gone through and I really wish more TH-camrs did this. We don't want you to be perfect, we just want to know you are trying.
@@AshChiCupcak yes I agree, yes she's fucked up multiple times but she admitted and has grown..... unlike toxic gossip girl
@@AshChiCupcakwhen has she admitted to her lies that have harmed other people ?? I’m curious maybe I missed it, I could have since I’m not subbed to her channel and it’s been ages. I’ve always hoped she would see the light and just be honest.
@@FabiolaMacabreshe never hurt or harmed anyone. She was a literal troll on the internet yes she did fucking horrible things but she never hurt anyone. She’s grown so much and people need to let go of the past she wasn’t the only one it was TH-cam culture everyone did shit like that.
@@FabiolaMacabre I don't regularly consume her content either, but I watch a lot of people who do and have seen her address a lot of her problematic behavior in podcasts and other places. I'm sorry I can't be more specific. The only thing I haven't seen her specifically apologize for was the whole DissociDID drama where she claimed they didn't have DID but I feel like Kya has moved past that cuz they have other serious issues they've been dealing with recently. She was just a very unsavory character on the internet, if she's trying to do better, she should be allowed to prove that she's not that person anymore.
jojos gonna come out with Toxic Gossip Train pop edition (with dance)
You would have thought that Jojo learned from the Christi lukasiak situation. Not to invalidate someone else's experience just because she had a good one.
“This is a banishment” 👏👏👏
Agree. Jojo only proved the point everyone was making!
Yes, she quite distinctly described grooming. I hope 1 day she will realize what happened to her and how her adult behavior will have consequences.
I think its important to point out that JoJo Siwa has a net worth of at least 20 million dollars and at the time of most of these collabs was even more. Its not that JoJo was profiting off of these collabs it is the people she was collabing with that were the ones grappling for the profits. Jo Jo was the one being used and its sad that she cannot recognize that. She cannot recognize it because she has been used as a tool for profit her entire life. No matter how sweet her family may seem we also need to remember that her family are the ones that expolited her at such a young age for PROFIT. Jo Jo defends these people because she only knows these types of people and thinks that their attention equals love for her.
Yes every new person in her life is her best friend and other adjectives that mean someone who is really close and meaningful to you. Both Jess and JoJo will cut someone if they feel that they have been wronged though and they openly say it. It must be a chaotic way to live.
Well her dad is a chiropractor so it does make sense that he loves to exploit vulnerable people for money lol
@@Emmae62 As far as JoJo goes her mum Jess seems to have been the driving force. She has said that she saw something special in JoJo since she was a toddler and her aim was to make JoJo a star. Don't know what age JoJo was when she decided that she wanted it too. Jess started dyeing JoJo's hair from the age of 2-3 years old. She also put in the audition tape for Abby's Ultimate Dance Competition without asking JoJo if she wanted to do it (JoJo was the youngest her season at 9). From when they were on Dance Moms onwards Jess and JoJo moved to LA and for a few years Tom and Jayden were still in Omaha (they moved when Jayden was in year 12). I will give Jayden that he has decided that he wants to have a 'normal' life, has moved out etc.
I will say there is only ONE excuse for being friends with a child; being their older sibling. My youngest sister and I are 11 years apart, and I'm 24. I cannot imagine talking to her about the things Colleen talked to you and the others about. It's absolutely disgusting
right? i’m only 8 years older then my only sister and now as a teenager and i’m in my twenties we are a lot more close now but like i would never ever ever talk to her like that before she was mature enough to handle it and never the way colleen did ever. not that. that’s never okay.
I'm so glad Trisha brought up that apologies are owed by Colleen. We all know that Colleen probably won't ever feel sorry for the things she's done/said. *But* she NEEDS to feel sorry for how she's made her victims feel and the hurt she's caused.
I think this entire situation with Jojo will possibly have flipped with time. Jojo will definitely wake up to what’s happened to her one day. I do believe that. And if she doesn’t, she is susceptible of repeated behaviors of the people who taught her. i do have sympathy that jojo is close to getting it, but the victims speak louder.
Colleen’s banishment 💀 like begone wench
Tbh Trisha is lucky you didnt go in harder on her esp in regards to her claiming shes not like colleen when she ignored trevi moran when she said trisha was inappropriate with trevi in the video with shane, plus trisha ignoring the many many times she herself has been predatory with minors, idk about her being 'mature' now cus i feel like shes glad colleens taking all the heat now, deservedly but so should trisha
What colleen did to trisha was horrible but at the same time trisha could also have addressed and taken accountability for her past instead of vaguely saying shes a different person now. Trisha has also bullied minors in the past and blanketing everything with a general 'i dont do bad things anymore' is so disingenuous
okay now let’s pull up the podcast where rachel and jojo talk about coming out to each other and count the red flags, adam can take a shot for each 🚩
Adam mentioned with the Kory photo it was Colleen testing the waters if it was safe to come back. That was a few weeks ago. Was this attempt number 2 to come back? Probably. How did it go? It completely backfired into the community trying to educate Jojo that she quite possible has been groomed.
If Trisha got an email from Colleen apologizing for sending her nudes to fans, that means she has hard evidence of Colleen admitting to sending explicit photos to minors. Just sayin'.
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I think also with Jojo saying “well she’s been nothing but nice to me” that it’s not being taken into account that maybe she was treated so well because she was already famous, and Adam was a “nobody”. She would be dumb to treat jojo like she did Adam when jojo already had such a huge platform at the time and Adam did not.
I do have a little grace for Jojo still. Her whole life has been about adults treating her like an adult. She doesn't know yet just how wrong it is. I had a 24 year old man befriend me at 14. I defended him right up until I was 24, and realized how young 14 year olds are. I'm hoping as she gets older and sees it, she'll be able to heal from all the adults that have taken advantage of her
This is the most accurate anyone has said. I said this about Adam too. When you’re groomed or abused, you’re not seeing things the way you would normally at 20 and 21. Jojo is still speaking as a child who was groomed and still hasn’t realized her trauma. It could take decades. It’s abuse!
I had a similar thing when I was 17 and he was 21. I was always like "well at least it wasn't THAT big of a gap" but once I was 21 and onward I was like, holy hell, 17 year olds are babies and I'd NEVER want to have that intimate of a friendship with someone that age! Ugh. I hate how sometimes it takes you being that persons age to have enough clarity on it. I hope JoJo gets that clarity before then, hopefully by her mid-20s when the brain is supposedly done forming and things become clearer
Oh hun you have all of us backing you up we got you
get a life
This!! 🥰😚💯👏👏👏👏
fr!!
Yessss! Team Adam!
yup
I love that Trisha called it a banishment
JoJo just casually telling her MINOR AUDIENCE ‘hey kids, grooming’s fun if it’s not naughty naughty grooming!’
Trisha did it with Peter Monn, too. She was super upset that he made some negative content about her after she tried to be friendly with him. She very much seems to think that if she's nice to you that you cannot criticize her. May be a hard behavior to break.
That’s so emotionally immature. But I get it. I’ve noticed she seems very insecure about rejection, it might come from that.
I suspect it might be related to her BPD, but I’m no expert. I know rejection sensitive dysphoria is a thing… maybe that’s at play here
Jojo has talked about have the maturity of an older person, and wanting to date older women....I don't think she sees any of this as wrong
It's strange because I found her very naive and very immature
Rachel talks opening about sex constantly with Jojo. On the podcasts. It’s something I always thought was weird because Rachel literally watched her grow up. I couldn’t imagine as an adult talking about my sex life with my nieces and nephews. The sex talk… ok I’ve done that because I did have a huge hand in raising them but to ever speak on my sex life. That’s traumatizing just thinking of doing that.
Yeah idk why Rachel has a “friendship “ with Jojo at all. It’s creepy af. 🤢
You don’t stop learning ever, the best thing is learning something new everyday and opinions or thought’s evolving. The beauty of life.
Also, Jojo, really shot herself in the foot with this interview... 🥴🥴
JoJo’s been groomed her entire life in one way or another, and that’s why the arrogant snot can’t wrap her mind around it. JoJo is a special beast, she’s self-made, actually talented, but has been raised her entire life by being pushed and praised by adults. Her childhood was robbed from her, look at her rn- her mannerisms and everything is of a 40yo. Then to say an abuser was nice to her, must mean all victims of nice abuser should be nothing but lies. JoJo will not learn from this until a huge deep dive into her life under the guidance of therapy.
I’m going through something similar. I blew a whistle and stories started poring out. But for some reason I’m the only one being attacked. “Don’t listen to one little person/ one little story” except it’s not. The defenders are so quick to say “That’s not true because it didn’t happen to me” well good for you. That doesn’t take away from the rest.
It’s even worse when they say shit like “that didn’t happen to you though” full on gaslighting you into thinking you’re wrong when you’re actually right. It’s so fucked up.
@@InfiniteCookie3-jo2bb yea i didnt even specifically accuse. Just said a name & told others to be aware. Not only did people come forward but apparently there is some ch!ld trfkng involved. Much bigger than my story. But still you have those who will defend because it didnt happen to them. Smh.
jojo just should've said "that wasn't my experience but i can't speak to other people's experiences". that is all she had to say. it's not hard at all to defend someone - within the parameters of your own experience with them- while acknowledging that you only know that person in the context of your experience with them and thereby avoid undermining victims.
Trisha’s video was so well done and incredibly mature and grounded and she did her due diligence knowing the facts going in. I like this Trisha
One thing I don't understand is why Rachel Ballinger is getting left out of all of this. She has just been posting like normal as if nothing has happened
Trisha has had experience and now she’s a Mother she knows she’d NEVER let her child be friend with an adult. Parents who let their children have these relationships are disgusting.
I think adults and children can be "friends" (for lack of a better word) to an extent, but there needs to be WAY more boundaries than a friendship between two adults or two children. There are family friends of mine that I've been friends with since I was a child, but they never talked to me about adult subjects or anything inappropriate as a child.
"YES GALAXYCOLLEEN!! *deeply - you know your lore*" killed me
Hello Adam,
Don’t forget we learn all our life.
I am in my fifties and I still continue to learn.
Love what you do.
As a 27 y/o (who was emancipated at 16) i felt this feeling and recognized the growth each year until about 24ish. Each year felt exponential in comparison then after that there is a feeling about age, wisdom, and nostalgia that you sit with. It’s not a bad place to be if you take care of yourself. If you struggle, you learn that priority is you. Formative years are intense but not forever, dont worry 🫶
Jojo's parents didn't protect her. They exploited her, handed her over to groomers all in the name of $$$
Eww, if people thought I was dating a minor, even as a joke, I would not be seen with them anymore.
26. That’s the age when I stopped thinking “oh I was so young”
trisha's growth is just beautiful and amazing. since her becoming a mom, I feel like there's an undeniable growth she's had. She's on point, everything she said
My jaw dropped when she said you continued to make hate videos on her because I feel like you have been NOTHING but kind, supportive, respectful and understanding.
i'm assuming she didn't watch them
"am I gonna think that next year?" As someone who is 27? You're going to continue to think that way every year, until your mid to late twenties at the least. I still look back at early twenties and look at the ways my brain was clearly underdeveloped.
I'm sure I'll think the same when I'm in my thirties but can confirm, it doesn't end. ( I dont go "oh I was so young" looking back at when I was 26 or 25 tho. Currently the cut off has been pre-25)
Adam, I'm 25, and I think of myself at 21 as a baby 😂 hope you have/had a great 21st birthday and keep fighting back against the four horsemen of TH-cam
i just don’t understand how trisha can say she “can’t even fathom” doing something like this… girl we remember ur videos with trevi moran
like she is 100% right in what she is saying and people are allowed to criticize things that are wrong even if they have done themselves…but girl don’t act like you’re a beacon of morality when u did weird stuff too
trisha is also a victim in this tho and i don’t want to discredit that. just rubs me the wrong way. peace and love peace and love
wait what happened w trevi moran??? i looked her up & even included "controversy" and "groomer" and i got nothing??? i was never a big fan and really only know of her by association
@@maxhansen3480 there were super weird videos with shane, trisha, and trevi. i would search all of their names together.
@@maxhansen3480trevi was underage and she was the victim dw
The longer i watch this video i find adam is kind of mean?
I met Adam today
He is such a brave survivor and down to earth so refreshing thank you for giving me your time today keep sparkling ✨😊
For people who don't know/don't want to look it up : Rachel Ballinger is 12 years older than JoJo, which means they were 12 and 24 when they first started hanging out (through Coleen, I presume?). Extremely creepy and weird.