If any adult tells a child "This is our little secret" or "Shhh don't tell your parents", they are 99.9% grooming that child and I don't mean brushing their hair!!😡😡
I feel like he is truly remorseful by his actions and deeply hurting for the whole situation. I was so sad when he said he could loose it all once again, and the fact that he cannot enjoy his entertainment talent due to the trauma is so sad.
@@TamaraAlvarez5lose what exactly? it’s not like he has a huge internet following nor did he before outside his relationship with colleen. yeah colleen wasn’t a great partner but he wasn’t perfect either and it seems like he’s taking advantage of the situation of attention on the young colleen fans to try to regain an internet following
@@twilit he’s already stated that’s not what he’s doing, time will tell but I think it’s just his chance to tell his side. Because he never got to after their divorce. As a fan of Colleen I remember having these feelings but taking it at face value. Hearing Josh’s story wasn’t shocking, it was something we had all watched happen but were led to believe differently.
A parent could do everything right and their child could still be hurt or groomed by a predator. She earned the trust of those children's parents, painted herself as a friend and used that to victimize countless minors. Colleen is 100% responsible for her actions alone
@@starchannel123 a child could also trust their parents fully and still be groomed. Children are often tricked into these situations, and if they trust the predator they're talking to they probably won't think there's any reason to tell their parents, or the parents might not realize something is wrong. They end up keeping secrets without realizing it because that's what the predator wants
@@starchannel123 Totally. Not even close. But many parents don't even check up on their kids to see what they're doing. They do the very minimum and then say things like "you can't know what your kid is doing 24/7." Umm guess what? Yeah ya can and it's your responsibility to.
@@zenobiaookpikits hard though, hes very young and this has been surrounding him since he was a child, so of course it's hard to let go for him. plus, it's actually a current issue and topic of conversation (parasocial youtube relationships, family channels, and grooming) within the youtube space. this is also one of the biggest stories right now. above all, this woman has had a severe impact in his life so he has the right to discuss it as much or as little as he wants ❤
@@zenobiaookpikkeep in mind that he went through this for years as a child and he was believed to be lying for almost three years. I fully understand why he’s still talking about it
When you speak the truth it always finds a way to shine threw even if it’s dark at first I’m glad Adan was and is strong enough to get threw that dark time
I used to watch JustKidding news a lot but stopped coz their views are really problematic sometimes - micro-racism, sexism, rape apologists. I'm not surprised they're blaming others instead of the real devil here.
Dude, yes! I just had my son 3 months ago. Every time I hear about Adam and his mom, it really makes me strive to have this kind of relationship with my son in the future. I was never that close with either of my parents.
Adam, and his parents if they happen to read this, I just want to say that as a victim of sexual grooming as a teenager, it is NOT always the parents’ fault when their child becomes a victim of grooming. I have two amazing parents who tried so hard to protect me, but my groomer was one of my older sister’s male friends. People seem to forget that teenagers are sneaky when it comes to hiding things, and as a teenager being groomed, you can be VERY good at hiding what your parents wouldn’t approve of from your parents, especially when you’re being manipulated by an older person. The ONLY person to blame is the groomer.
I have a family member who was sexually groomed by a much older male when she was 12. Her parents however were not paying close enough attention. And when the guy got scary and was making threats, she was afraid to go to her parents. She didn't trust her parents to protect her. And to this day, her parents don't know. Adam clearly was very open to his parents because they were loving and supportive. I'm so sorry you went through this, my family member still struggles 10 years later, she's still afraid to tell her parents. I don't doubt at all that even good parents can miss things, the groomers know to isolate their victims and tap into the teenage tendency to push their parents away a bit. But in all cases, like you say, it is not your fault, you were a child, this is 100% on the groomer no matter what the child did or didn't do. I hope that you continue to heal. I shared what you said with my family member, thank you for being brave and helping others cope with their own trauma. I wish you all the best.
@@iolitelight Thank you so much for your kind words, it really means a lot. I’m so sorry that your family member went through that, I hope she finds healing ❤️ It’s been ten years since my grooming ended and I still feel like I’m healing from it at 27 years old. It lasted from when I was 14 to 17 and he was eight years older than me. I think it really affected my mental development, being constantly at the whim of an adult man when I was a teenager. Even now, I have trouble standing up for myself and saying no to people, especially men. But I’m now in a healthy long term relationship with a great guy (only two years older than me 😂) and I just really feel like it’s important to warn young people about these sick sick predators. They will make kids/teens feel special, and like they’re mature for their age. Like they’re “different” than other people their age, and so they should feel like it’s something to proud of, being in a relationship with someone older. When really, they are taking advantage of how inexperienced, young, and maybe even rebellious, the young person is and using it for their own sick desires.
@@jessicareiser659 Thank you again for sharing your story, I want my niece to see she's not alone, that she wasn't a fool and that she can heal and grow. The man that groomed my niece was in another country even, she observed him slapping his own mother on camera, and she lived in fear of this man. He terrorized her and threatened to kill her when she cut him off. But she did cut him off and finally came to me. She is now getting counseling but she often tells me that she still feels like she's twelve and very scared. She's afraid of men and feels she's worthless. So I shared your words with her again, you are an inspiration. I wish society at large understood just how damaging grooming is and how healing is hard and painful. It's not talked about enough, so when I saw your posts, I literally had tears. I try to talk to her openly, I want her to know that others do care and do understand. She still feels her parents will blame her. I can only say to you and her, you are stronger than you know, I don't think I could have survived abuse like that but you are survivors and these groomers are not worth your time and tears. Stay strong and beautiful! Your words are making a difference for a very tormented girl. 💗💗💗
@@iolitelight Oh my goodness, poor girl. I never experienced violence with him other than sexual abuse, but I cannot imagine how much physical threats would take it to another level of pain and fear. I feel for her, trauma like that really can make you feel like you’re stuck at that age when it happened and feel mentally/emotionally stunted. You saying that my post brought you tears brings tears to my eyes. You’re so sweet, and I can tell that you are a great aunt to your niece. I send you both my love ❤️
Thank you same here. It’s heart breaking when people say this because my mom would do ANYTHING for me and I’m sure it’s the same for you. I’m so sorry you also went through that. All love for you and your family
yeah because ever victim ever has that thought, over and over, as a way of convincing themselves they're overreacting so that they don't have to feel bad, until they find a way to say "oh, yeah, it WAS bad enough to cause me years and years of trauma... it didn't need to be worse for me to feel like it was bad." The "lucky" people are the ones who weren't groomed at all! weird fucking taking from this guy.
I'm so tired of people blaming your parents. Kids WILL find a way! Period. To drink, smoke, have relations, do dangerous things on the internet; KIDS WILL FIND A WAY. And it's always the kids with the most involved hover parents that are the SNEAKIEST. I had a second facebook that I kept hidden from my mom and one day she found it somehow when I was about 13. I got grounded for MONTHS. Well guess what? My friend gave me her old phone, I figured out how to use the WPS button on the wifi router, and I kept it on my person on school days, and times when I had to hide it, I put it between my mattress and box spring. I'm now 20 and to this day my mom still has no clue! And I was still talking to strangers and adults on the internet. Of course I now know how truly dangerous that was, but no matter how much my parents explained to me the dangers of it, I never listened! Point being, kids are negligent to their own safety because they think they are invincible, and kids will find a way no matter what!
i agree, i did crazy shit on the internet all the time when i was a minor and my parents were really good parents, involved and monitoered a lot but even they didn't know i saw someone comment on swoops video the other day saying 'why are we blaming johnny's parents and not adam's' as if it's not obvious but either way, unless the parents actively knew everything and didn't care/encourage it i don't see the point in blaming the parents for something they didn't know like i get WHY people have this take because obviously parents shouldn't let kids do this but they fail to realize just how hard it is to constantly monitor their kids while also giving them enough privacy and space that they need as a teenager and not treating them like a prisoner i want everyone with this take to think of what they were like as a teenager or kid and ask yourself if you hid shit from your parents and would say your parents are 'bad' because they didn't know obviously some people genuinely have bad parents but i'd like to think in most cases that's not the case but if that is the case just say you can't comment on that lol, not every parent is bad because their kid hid stuff
@@lanax7922same. lmfao i feel so validated, never thought anyone else experienced this. We are all similar in age it seems so this was all the same time frame… let me guess for y’all it was also 2011-2015 LMFAO
The SWOOP interview really made me feel for Josh. My heart broke just seeing the way he went still and stared wide-eyed as SWOOP validated the abuse he experienced from Colleen, praised him for speaking out against his abuser, and when she agreed with Josh that there is a double standard for men who are victims of domestic abuse. You could just tell he really needed to hear that. 😭💔
Don’t come for the mama. Mom, you did the best you could with the information you had at the time. You also did waaaaay more than most. You trusted your gut, and kept your kiddo safe. ♥️
Exactly, I mean kids get sexually abused by people the parents trust, all the time and the parents don’t know about it. To blame the parents is pretty deplorable. So to blame Adam’s mum when she did her best to protect, Adam is really nasty. Kids hide stuff from their parents all the time.
My parents were pretty strict but the adults manipulating me taught me how to be sneaky. Taught me things my parents didn’t know at the time. When you’re naive/people pleaser sometimes they’ll make you the person they are searching for.
@@personincognito3989 yep. I still remember the first time a stranger tried to get me (like 11yrs old) to send them nude photos. They eventually started leaving voicemails on my parents phones because I used parents phone, but didn’t have the voicemail password.
Reminds me of when the Click found out mid-recording that the troll that has been harrassing him and his friends with allegations about him for YEARS was actually illuminaughtiii’s sock puppet account.
So glad Josh feels supported. He really went through it. Side note, this is why I think Colleen is so stupid. She was so sloppy when she was telling/texting people horrible things about Josh. She never stopped to think that it would wind up biting her in the ass! P.S.- we all think you are a well spoken young man😊.
So when a 30 year old man gets caught communicating with a 12 year old girl secretly however he is communicating with her whether it’s text, email, chats, social media the world is outraged and automatically 100% blames the disgusting 30 year old man. Why is it that every time it’s a woman predator people want to blame the child’s parents?
Patriarchy. Men are always praising boys who get groomed or assaulted by adult women saying they’re lucky or some other shit. They also believe women are too weak and innocent to commit crimes which is why women criminals don’t get the book thrown as hard at them
Because unfortunately misogyny is something that negatively impacts EVERYONE, not just women. If there's a pervasive cultural belief that women are too "soft", "maternal", "weak", and "incapable" of committing heinous crimes like DV, SA, or in this case, gr00ming, the justice system (and sometimes even the general public) doesn't hold them accountable for their actions and instead finds ways to blame their victims for not doing more to "prevent" the abuse being inflicted upon them. It's so gross.
Adam, it’s absolutely okay that you toot your horn because you’ve been telling the truth for years! And for those of us that have been in similar situations, when we are finally validated. It means so much to heal our ptsd! 🥰
I’ve been following your vids this year and really respect how brilliantly you’ve handled everything and put it all together, but it was so funny and caught me off guard to see my boyfriend from JK news pop up on here hahaha!! (The bearded dude Ryan) Also they were wearing ugly tracksuits as a joke but it’s hilarious that it was this video they’re wearing them in 😂
It's kind of funny how they are discussing such serious topic in these suits, not gonna lie. Out of context, it just looks like they are wearing their usual outfits, haha
When parents control everything their child does, everything they watch, everything they do online, everyone they talk to, those parents get criticized and called helicopter parents. When parents aren’t watching or controlling everything their children do, they’re called bad parents. People will always have something to say. Regardless of whether or not Adam’s parents are at fault- I am 100% sure that they feel the guilt. I am 100% they blame themselves at times. Because if I was a parent in that situation, I’d blame myself as well. I think any parent would blame themselves when their child gets hurt. It’s just a natural part of being a mother, a father, a guardian- taking the blame for what happens to our children. People need to stop trying to find people to point fingers at and focus on the persons that did the actual harm.
Let's be clear here. No matter what kind of parents someone has it's not the parents fault. The parents are actually victims as well. Imagine this child you nurtured and looked after and guided. And this horrendous thing happens to them. It's not the parents fault. Parents go through hell when they're child is abused in any way. They live with a guilt and say what if this, what and they live with the feelings of failure as a parent cause they fail to protect their child.
Never thought I'd see Adam watch JKNews, two of my favorite worlds colliding, side note Steve goes in whenever he is in that chair (presenter) he tends to be on the sideline giving an unbiased opinion if he can and will clarify if he was involved in anyway as he did in that video
My heart was breaking listening to Josh’s interview with Swoop, especially when he talks about his voice being silenced for the last decade or so. It’s just so sad that he’s never been able to speak on his experiences with the relationship n the abuse he went through. I’m so glad Swoop gave him her platform to speak on, the safe space she made for him, n the compassion she showed him throughout everything.
Your right Adam,, I’m a parent, and it’s SO hard to monitor Everything!!! I’m a strict parent and there’s still stuff that I don’t know about!! It’s NOT your parents fault and you can’t understand that until you are a parent of social media savvy kids!!
Colleen Ballinger was “the Mr. Rogers of TH-cam”?! Okay, granted I don’t get out much, and yes, I’m an old lady who remembers Mr. Fred Rogers, but I don’t ever recall him asking his little neighbors, in his little accent, what their favorite positions were. This is an awful comparison to make. I mean, I’m sort of okay with the world forgetting that German accented William Alexander invented the “happy little roads” long before Bob Ross ever frizzed out his hair-but this. This is slanderous, you guys. Love your show, Adam. Seriously never knew any of this happened to you before this summer. Happy you’re being validated at last.
From what your mom did do though, like waiting for you a bit away from where you were supposed to meet up with Colleen. To stopping what she did know about. You got a good mom!!! Just wait till these guys have teens, kids always know how to hide shit from their parents. I always told my mom half truths to hide shit and it worked a lot of the time. She knew something was off but could never prove what exactly... And teenagers especially always find a way to hide shit!
35:06 adam, you made such a great point here. Kids will be sneaky BUT the adult responsible for creating a secret environment to talk to kids is the one who deserves the hot seat. We love mama McIntyre
Those of us who are adults now who grew up in the 2000s know just how easy it was to hide the bad shit we were a part of online. Its hard to blame our parents because how were they supposed to know? Especially when they trusted us and thought we had enough education on internet safety.
Exactly! Life360 and parental controls weren’t a thing, or the parental controls that were a thing were very confusing for parents who were not tech savvy.
Misunderstanding the nature of grooming and its methods often results in wrongly placing blame on the parents when a child has been groomed. One of Groomers primary objective is to maintain secrecy, particularly from parents. The full responsibility lies with the adult groomer, not the parents. I’m sorry your parents had to deal with this situation.
Colleen is the real life Regina George Yknow that one scene in the mall where she pretends to like a girl's skirt and then immediately makes fun of it when the girl leaves? Yeah sounds like that's exactly how Colleen is
When I was 14, I went above and beyond to hide internet things from my very strict and overbearing parents. Parents don't have as much control over their kids as kidless people think. You're excellent at keeping your composure and cracking jokes. Happy to see you succeeding
Might be worth sending video links to them so they can get this straight. Your mum is absolutely not responsible! Abusers always try and divide and isolate people from even the most wonderful parents! Both your parents are not to blame - that kind of gaslighting to parents and victims isn’t OK. Please send them this video
one thing i’ll add to defend mama mcintyre: we are finally at an age where parents are cognizant of what their children are watching on the internet. my parents had no fuckin idea what me and my brothers were up to on the internet, it was so dangerous. they are just now catching up with instagram and youtube (my dad doesn’t even have socials) i feel like time adds to the context i’ll say i’m impressed he managed to summarize everything pretty quickly and accurately. i wonder what he thinks about the trishyland situation
I’m glad you talked about how you all had secret accounts. I think it’s very telling how systematically she had all of you under her umbrella of control right under the noses of everyone’s parents. It’s frightening as the very same tactics could and have been used by other abusers to keep even the most attentive parents in the dark.
When he was explaining how Colleen told people how embarrassing Josh was to her, i want to give the round of applause to the guy that said "then why is was she with him?" Further shows she just wanted a punching bag.
I don't really understand the "where were the parents" argument.... the idea of toxic parasocial relationships is still so new. I don't know that a lot of parents would even understand the difference between a tweet vs a dm vs a group chat 🤷♀️
Parasocial relationships have been studies since they 50s. They aren't new. Also, the parents ARE partially to blame. Although Colleen bears most of the responsibility, you can't deny Adam's parents needed to do a better job monitoring him. They literally dropped him off at her shows. Who does that? All parties need to be held accountable.
@@TRex9068 Social media and influencer culture and the affect it has on the mind of children is still a very new thing. The idea of being in close, inappropriate contact with a "celebrity" in group chats is not something that was even fathomable a little more than a decade ago. I'm not a parent and would never judge someone's parenting based on hindsight knowledge and information. What I do know is their minor child was purposefully traumatized by an extremely unhealthy adult and they've had to handle that for many years and my heart goes out to them. There were plenty of adults in the situation that actually had knowledge of wtf Colleen was doing and let it continue, yet somehow placing the blame on parents who likely didn't fully understand social media and influencer culture is ridiculous in my opinion.
@@amyandaugust I'm not excusing Colleen's actions though. I agree with you in that what she did was inappropriate and traumatizing. However, I disagree with the fact that 0 blame should be on the parents. I don't know how old you are, but chat rooms have been around since the 90s. Even if they didn't understand social media, adults understand the concept that strangers can talk to each other on the internet. There have been plenty of horror stories. I'm not saying they should be arrested or anything, I just believe they should've done a better job. This is a teachable moment. Also, for the Taylor Swift situation, I can't judge. I have no idea what safety measures those dads have in place.
I don't think people understand fully how crafty teenagers can be about hiding their lives from their parents. We've seen this happen unfortunately in way worse situations as well, where the parents do feel a lot of guilt because they didn't know, even if they took all the devices from their kids and the abusers would buy them new ones. There's only so much a person can do, parents included. And when our minds don't go to the bad places automatically, it's hard to take every possible scenario into account when protecting ourselves or our loved ones. This is why people say "How could I have been so blind" or "Why did I not see this coming", the reality is that when you're not sick like that, your mind does not see these things as a possibility most of the time. Adam, your mum did great with the information she had and that is all any of us an do.
I think the parent blaming narrative is being pushed because a lot of people that are commenting are very young and a lot of people don't have teenage kids. Just wait, They will do things you never thought they would do no matter what kind of parents you are.
yea i started going online a lot when i was 14 because i was depressed and stuff and my parents had no idea what i was looking at and i didn‘t wanna talk about it either cause that would have meant opening up. in my case it was harmless stuff but it was still unhealthy because looking for validation online just is unhealthy.
Can you imagine how traumatizing that day Steve confronted him would have been? I can’t imagine unexpectedly having all your fears confirmed and you KNOW your life is over as you know it
It’s not about “being smart.” It’s that she didn’t think there would be consequences. She was privelaged & she couldn’t fathom anyone saying anything to her. She was on top of the world, bringing everyone down around her with ease. People who don’t wanna get caught are sneaky. She didn’t even think she needed to be sneaky, she felt like everything she did was flipping amazing.
Abusers can have another side to them so they can keep up the facade and make their victims look “crazy.” I’ve been through it. I was like Josh years ago: I wanted love but I never had a good model on what that meant until later. Abusers prey on people and they know who’s vulnerable. It makes me sick that victims are not believed. 💔
Yeah I liked what they had to say until they blamed your parents. Disgusting. Lots of kids with loving parents end up abused but thats why they’re told to keep it a secret. To say kids who get abused have bad parents is gross. My mom would have an aneurysm if she knew the amount of strangers I talked to on the internet lol.
@@aschofield687 It's almost like abusive celebrities make it an exciting thing to hide the abusive conversations for the victims. You're delusional if you believe you can 100% control your kid's life without some form of abuse all on its own.
Where were your parents? THIS is what grooming is!!! Isolating the child and teaching them to keep secrets. This is 100% on Colleen! AND I feel certain your parents HAVE said sorry to you.
Adam, I am so glad that more and more people are coming forward and validating Josh and your stories. CB and her vindictive pawns abhorrent behaviors have come to light and they can’t bury the truth anymore! 🙌 I really hope that everyone that was victimized, used, and abused by CB and her cohorts is able to heal from the trauma and abuse that she put them through. 💞
I'm impressed at how much research he had done and only spoke of things that he was sure of but how could he totally gloss over the Trisha nudes? Especially when they asked him if there were any crimes or not.
Damn I never been this early So far from what I've seen, Josh is being supported and validated and it makes me happy. Glad that his story is not being misconstrued.
Loving all your videos, wishing you all the healing and red bulls you deserve it all after all you've been through. been watching you for years, so happy to see all the support you've been getting
I loved Steve and Nicki so much back when I also watched all the horrible TH-camrs who are now cancelled.. so it’s nice to see SOME of the TH-camrs I watched everyday were actually authentic people, with morals. Props to Steve 🫡
It is never the parents fault if a child is groomed. Groomers are good at what they do. Especially that many years ago when grooming wasn't as known. I am 8 years older than Adam and talked to many grown adults on the internet starting when I was around 9 or 10 and my parents still do not know that to this day. I teach my 10 year old about grooming, but that doesn't mean it could never happen to her. I hope Adam's parents hold no guilt for what happened!
Well, I wouldn't say never, especially since I was groomed by my parent. And I have seen situations where the neglectful attitude of parents has left a friend of mine way more vulnerable to grooming. But overall I agree with the sentiment of your post - a parent can do their best to prevent that from happening but you can never 100% prevent this from happening.
Its fascinating how your mind works. Your basically saying no parents can out-smart a groomer and protect their kid. How is it not their fault?? They're to blame as well.
@@spicesandstories1they can’t outsmart a groomer if they don’t even know a groomer exists, which is what happens during the grooming process when a kid slowly gets told the groomer is more trustworthy than their parents and if their parents found out something bad would happen, Adam has also spoken about the context of his life outside of Colleen at the time where he was having a difficult time w connecting to his family anyway bc of bullying and internalised homophobia where he says his mum was basically trying her best to give him the space to decide how much he told her while also making sure he always knew she supported and loved him His parents tried their best and only now in 2023 do they know the full extent of what happened, Adam was made to feel such shame and humiliation for what happened to him that he kept it from them even after coming out about how Colleen treated him in 2020
Yeah the concept of child predators and dangerous people on the internet wasn't known by the general public til the 2010s. Lol. They knew she sent their kid bra and panties. His parents have so many wrongdoings in this as well. And that doesn't take the pressure off of Colleen at all. At. All. He says lot of it happened at school. Well then those teachers are to blame as well. I find it unfortunate for Adam that if he didn't came up with a joke tweet that led to his downfall with Colleen, all the manipulation done by Colleen would have continued because his parents had no influence about discouraging him from stopping being a fan. It was the downfall as well as Adam himself growing up and realizing like holy shit all the things she's done to me are so wrong for this and this reasons. He himself realized all that, his parents were not the ones waking him up when they should have been.
@@spicesandstories1 girl be so for real right now the teachers would’ve only been able to act on anything if he reported it and they weren’t going to know the details of how much of a fan of her he was, they would’ve been in violation of his privacy and safeguarding if they went digging into his shit You’re also missing the part where they told him the underwear was inappropriate and took it away, the fact that his mum waited outside while he met her in Dublin, and once again the fact she tried to have conversations w him to see if he was ok. She cannot know what he isn’t telling her and as a child being groomed he’s not going to tell her he’s being groomed, stop trying to pin shit on his parents when the only way for them to know was to violate his boundaries and privacy and potentially push him further into colleen’s manipulation bc he would feel less inclined to trust them
when you're a typically trustworthy kid, it's easy to keep something big from your parents (or downplay it), especially when you have an adult advising, helping, and enabling you along the way.
Their whole take was so on point until they blamed the parents for not knowing about it. Kids hide things all the time, and then when they found out, they stepped in and took action to protect their kids. Even when Colleen had her own kids, she didnt realise how her actions were so toxic and wrong towards these kids who were victims of her.
Also, what do these people expect some kid's mother to do to take down a celebrity who's being hurtful? I'm struggling to see what these people believe is possible for common folk to do that could end the cycle of abuse of a popular influencer.
It's very wrong to assume that any parent can know everything that goes on with their teen. Kids have ALWAYS kept secrets from their parents. I kept secrets. It is never the kids fault or the parents. If those guys would have stopped for a minute and thought about it they would have realized how much THEIR parents didn't know.
something i like about Adam is that he criticizes people in such a good and kind way like isnt an asshole about it ever and also isnt afraid to share what he thinks
From the standpoint of someone who has a loved one who was a victim of grooming, it really isn't a black or white "you guys should have done this" we did everything, we took her phone away, her computer, we communicated to her teachers that she needed to be monitored while she was at school but despite all of this she still gained access to her groomer. This predator knew what he was doing, my relative wasn't his first victim, and it took her seeing her friends who he also groomed who met him through her for her to have that aha moment. It was difficult afterwards, the two of us had been so close, but the lies and manipulation she had directed towards me throughout the years that she was talking with this man had created a wedge in between us- he made her hate my family at one point, he wanted her to feel completely isolated in our family when before she'd met him she was like a little sister to me and all of our cousins. We still haven't really talked about it, it's been nearly ten years but it's still such a fresh wound, and it was only in the last few years that she and I started talking again. I've gone to therapy over this, the amount of guilt I feel still for not being able to protect her still weighs on me. I have to constantly remind myself that he was the one who groomed her, but there's always that little part nagging in the back of my head that I should have done this, should have done that- it used to eat me up inside. At the end of it all, she's moved on, she's getting married to her bf who's pretty cool and we're able to talk again which is all I could ever hope for- I will say, if I ever meet that creep in person he better run, I don't hate anyone really except for that evil motherfucker and his wife.
I'm so glad that you fully explained how sneaky kids can be when they are hiding things from their parents. My daughter is 15 and though I feel like I am well aware of what she is doing, I know that there are many things that she (possibly) has hidden from me. And that's ok, because she's figuring herself as I do my best to lead by example. You divulging the lengths you kids went through to maneuver around your parents reminded me of my high school days when pagers were a thing (if you were 'cool') and we thought we were clever using coded #'s.
I'm so happy that you and all other victims she and her friend hurt are continuously validated. She needs serious M.H. help. Adam you're a strong person.
35:30 yeah I absolutely agree, Adam. If I’m a parent and I find out that my kid is talking to another grown adult in an inappropriate way… I’m not going to be upset at my impressionable kid, I’m mostly going to be questioning the other ADULT in the situation who should clearly know better ?? Hello ??? 🤔🤔
How Josh explained it. it was Steve Greens now wife that said that they were told they should hate Josh not Steve. Josh said how Steve was trying to get his now wife not to talk about it. from swoops video unless i listened wrong
Thanks for speaking and keeping all of us updated on this horrible, and criminal. When are legal action going to take place. Adults being gross with minors are EVERYWHERE now day!! Hollywood, music, social media, etc.. It’s so hard to talk about and listen to also but we need to, if anything is going to happen or brought a light to people true actions and person they are! What’s going on in this world? Like in every aspect of the world it’s messed up, users, unkind, very dark, and hateful…. Makes me sad. You only have control over yourself. I have to remind myself,and just try to be better then my past self!!!!❤❤❤ Thank you!!!
That last bit was a wild take. Can you imagine on how to catch a predator if the culprit was like this is the parents fault your honor for not monitoring their child’s computer so therefore I should get a lighter sentence or when something horrific happens to an actual child people told the parents you deserved it bc you didn’t watch your child enough 🙄
It's beyond me how easily people are to want to share blame with the victims parents. Like were they never a kid or teen that hid shit from parents or adults? Colleen is solely responsible full stop.
dude the tampon thing freaked me out the most, the video she shared with children in the chats of her inserting a tampon in her mouth and wiggling it around is literally disturbing.
I think there's a major disconnect with older millennials/younger gen x, where they had some exposure to tech growing up, but they don't understand how fast that landscape changed. I used to work in schools and zoomers are leagues more tech-savvy than their parents, because their parents didn't have anything like this growing up. Millennials understand it because it started gaining traction when they were younger, but for a lot of zoomers' parents this stuff didn't come out until they were fully adults. When I was in high school there were firewalls and banned content to protect us, but most of the students knew how to circumvent it. Most of the teachers didn't even know it *could* be circumvented, let alone that we were doing it. How are parents supposed to track their child's computer or social media activity when that child knows infinitely more about computers, apps, etc. than the parent does? That's difficult enough to navigate in a regular situation, it becomes even harder when another adult is secretly coaching those kids on how to trick/hide things from their parents. There are for sure some parents that just hand their kids an ipad and check out, but even a caring, involved parent can miss things in a situation like this.
Regarding the ‘your parents are to blame’ argument while sure I can see how it gets brought up 1. Grooming breeds in secrets. They go hand in hand 2. Teens know how to hide things, especially as it involves technology, even with the best of parents!!
If Adam never decided to become a content creator I don't think she would have ever been called out. Bet she hates a kid she took advantage of was the catalyst to her demise. Sweet karma
To compare her to Shane. He apolgized and went away. She made UKELELE SONG that goes down in history , this story cant ger away cause her response will always be memed and refrenced for years to come
@@liesbeneathoureyes to be clear, Shane is disgusting inside and out, and I found his content super boring. I'm not defending him in any way, but Colleen response is the most insane thing that ever was on TH-cam so everyone will never forget, even in my world of games and anime fandoms EVERYONE knows about it and meme it.
@@wyrdpink2549 again . I could not care less about Shane hes disgusting man . Its not about it. Its about the fact that Colleen response is a world wide meme that goes down in history.
@@wyrdpink2549 because Adam compared them and gave points. So i response by saying that its not the action itself , but the UKELELE resonse that got the media attention to the story
I’m a younger millennial who has taught Gen Z teens and I’m getting tired of older millennials with this take of “Adam’s parents failed by not knowing the true nature of his relationship with Colleen.” It’s impossible for parents to know *everything* about their children. My students told me all the time that they kept things from their parents. I know for a fact they kept things from me even when they told me they trusted me more than their parents. There are just some things that children & teens will never share with their parents or the authority figures in their lives. The only person to blame for the inappropriate nature of Adam & Colleen’s relationship is Colleen. She was an adult who fostered & encouraged the relationships she had with children while discouraging parent involvement. That screams red flag to any adult.
Tbf... it doesn’t seem exclusive to older millennials, we got gen x and boomers with the same take, the people who birthed us and helped raise us, I’d say milenials in general were the first generation to break away from the ”blame the parents” talked bc we had the internet and knew damn well how easy it was to hide sh*t.
@@sjworrier0613 yeah, I know it’s not exclusive to older millennials; those are the just the people I’ve been seeing talk about this on their platforms, so that’s why I specified that I’m tired of it. There’s just a very clear difference between younger millennials/gen z who grew up alongside the rise of the internet and the older millennials who were already adults when it was growing to what it is now. I know Gen X and Boomers don’t get it either, but I haven’t seen any Gen X or Boomers invested in this topic and blaming Adam’s parents so that’s why I didn’t include them 🤷🏼♀️
I'm sorry but seeing such a like... "home grown American man" (idk how else to describe him) know so much about what happened is such a whiplash but in a positive way LOL. Like he stumbles a bit here and there but other than that he's doing his best, love him for that
them saying you were lucky because it wasn’t more predatory…wtf? that’s like telling someone who was groped “at least you weren’t raped”. like yeah obviously but does that somehow make the groping less of a horrible thing that has happened??
@adam McIntyre I just want you to know you are validated to speak your truth and I believed you before other people spoke up and I am happy you made it through this situation better off now and you deserve justice ☮️💜
Yeah the ending lost me which goes to show they did not follow it close enough. I used to be the person who would place blame on parents but the more I listened, I am learning that there's only so much parents can do! So the blame is solely on the groomer and no one else.
I was a kid/teen once. One of the best examples I can think of about doing something my mom didn’t want me to behind her back was when I was 10/11 years old and family guy and American dad were in the height of popularity and my mom told me I wasn’t allowed to watch them because they were inappropriate. Well, all the kids at school were watching, so obviously I had to watch those too so I could keep up with my classmates. I would snakily watch it behind my moms back or at friends houses so my mom didn’t know. My mom made the rules really clear but I went behind her back.
This makes me mad. If it was sexual grooming, Adam’s parents wouldn’t get dragged. It was Colleen’s fault. No one is perfect and Adam’s parents did their best with the information that they had. Also a lot of parents don’t know the extent of social media and do try to learn but it’s really hard to keep up with the different platforms. Also if an adult is saying don’t tell your parents because I’ll stop talking to you or trusting you etc and that person is your idol, YOUNG kids are going to do what their idol says. Ridiculous.
You clarified the “responsibility on the adult” piece really well. It seemed like he was lightly defending the image “good person” (cauldron badlinger) he once knew instead of the guilty adult that she is. They talked about how people should not release information (such as the tampon story) because it “distracts” from the story, when doing so brings context and establishes a pattern of inappropriate behavior with children. Also, It’s wild to tell people to pick and choose what to information to release when the harm was done to THEM. Lol “they had 24min of amazing takes” ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Colleen telling you not to tell your parents is literally a part of the grooming..
And not victim blaming, maybe more of a self-reflection, what tween/teen is telling their parents what they're doing online?? Habbo generation here :p
Also your parents should be inherently believing their children are safe.
If any adult tells a child "This is our little secret" or "Shhh don't tell your parents", they are 99.9% grooming that child and I don't mean brushing their hair!!😡😡
@@MissMollyCohenabsolutely !
I’m glad Josh is getting his story validated
I waaaaaayyyyy misread this.
I feel like he is truly remorseful by his actions and deeply hurting for the whole situation. I was so sad when he said he could loose it all once again, and the fact that he cannot enjoy his entertainment talent due to the trauma is so sad.
And Adam!!!
@@TamaraAlvarez5lose what exactly? it’s not like he has a huge internet following nor did he before outside his relationship with colleen. yeah colleen wasn’t a great partner but he wasn’t perfect either and it seems like he’s taking advantage of the situation of attention on the young colleen fans to try to regain an internet following
@@twilit he’s already stated that’s not what he’s doing, time will tell but I think it’s just his chance to tell his side. Because he never got to after their divorce. As a fan of Colleen I remember having these feelings but taking it at face value.
Hearing Josh’s story wasn’t shocking, it was something we had all watched happen but were led to believe differently.
A parent could do everything right and their child could still be hurt or groomed by a predator. She earned the trust of those children's parents, painted herself as a friend and used that to victimize countless minors. Colleen is 100% responsible for her actions alone
You didn’t do everything right if your child doesn’t trust you
@@starchannel123 a child could also trust their parents fully and still be groomed. Children are often tricked into these situations, and if they trust the predator they're talking to they probably won't think there's any reason to tell their parents, or the parents might not realize something is wrong. They end up keeping secrets without realizing it because that's what the predator wants
@@starchannel123that's the thing with grooming, the groomer turns the victim against their support network
I'm a parent and don't agree with this at all. You're not doing everything right if this happens to your kid. PERIOD!
@@starchannel123 Totally. Not even close. But many parents don't even check up on their kids to see what they're doing. They do the very minimum and then say things like "you can't know what your kid is doing 24/7." Umm guess what? Yeah ya can and it's your responsibility to.
I’m so glad that more people are speaking out about Colleen because it continues to validate Adam.
He's been validated, now he needs to get over it! It's not healthy to keep harping on it for months.
@@zenobiaookpikits hard though, hes very young and this has been surrounding him since he was a child, so of course it's hard to let go for him. plus, it's actually a current issue and topic of conversation (parasocial youtube relationships, family channels, and grooming) within the youtube space. this is also one of the biggest stories right now. above all, this woman has had a severe impact in his life so he has the right to discuss it as much or as little as he wants ❤
And Josh too
@@zenobiaookpikkeep in mind that he went through this for years as a child and he was believed to be lying for almost three years. I fully understand why he’s still talking about it
When you speak the truth it always finds a way to shine threw even if it’s dark at first I’m glad Adan was and is strong enough to get threw that dark time
it's crazy clear to anyone who watched your whole story that your mom 1000% had your back.
Literally.
So true. Adam's Mom is one of the true MVPs of the story
I used to watch JustKidding news a lot but stopped coz their views are really problematic sometimes - micro-racism, sexism, rape apologists. I'm not surprised they're blaming others instead of the real devil here.
Dude, yes! I just had my son 3 months ago. Every time I hear about Adam and his mom, it really makes me strive to have this kind of relationship with my son in the future. I was never that close with either of my parents.
I love Adam's mom, I don't even know anything about her, but the way she's been 100% there for him tells me everything I need to know about her.
Adam, and his parents if they happen to read this, I just want to say that as a victim of sexual grooming as a teenager, it is NOT always the parents’ fault when their child becomes a victim of grooming.
I have two amazing parents who tried so hard to protect me, but my groomer was one of my older sister’s male friends. People seem to forget that teenagers are sneaky when it comes to hiding things, and as a teenager being groomed, you can be VERY good at hiding what your parents wouldn’t approve of from your parents, especially when you’re being manipulated by an older person. The ONLY person to blame is the groomer.
I have a family member who was sexually groomed by a much older male when she was 12. Her parents however were not paying close enough attention. And when the guy got scary and was making threats, she was afraid to go to her parents. She didn't trust her parents to protect her. And to this day, her parents don't know. Adam clearly was very open to his parents because they were loving and supportive. I'm so sorry you went through this, my family member still struggles 10 years later, she's still afraid to tell her parents. I don't doubt at all that even good parents can miss things, the groomers know to isolate their victims and tap into the teenage tendency to push their parents away a bit. But in all cases, like you say, it is not your fault, you were a child, this is 100% on the groomer no matter what the child did or didn't do. I hope that you continue to heal. I shared what you said with my family member, thank you for being brave and helping others cope with their own trauma. I wish you all the best.
@@iolitelight Thank you so much for your kind words, it really means a lot. I’m so sorry that your family member went through that, I hope she finds healing ❤️ It’s been ten years since my grooming ended and I still feel like I’m healing from it at 27 years old. It lasted from when I was 14 to 17 and he was eight years older than me. I think it really affected my mental development, being constantly at the whim of an adult man when I was a teenager. Even now, I have trouble standing up for myself and saying no to people, especially men. But I’m now in a healthy long term relationship with a great guy (only two years older than me 😂) and I just really feel like it’s important to warn young people about these sick sick predators. They will make kids/teens feel special, and like they’re mature for their age. Like they’re “different” than other people their age, and so they should feel like it’s something to proud of, being in a relationship with someone older. When really, they are taking advantage of how inexperienced, young, and maybe even rebellious, the young person is and using it for their own sick desires.
@@jessicareiser659 Thank you again for sharing your story, I want my niece to see she's not alone, that she wasn't a fool and that she can heal and grow. The man that groomed my niece was in another country even, she observed him slapping his own mother on camera, and she lived in fear of this man. He terrorized her and threatened to kill her when she cut him off. But she did cut him off and finally came to me. She is now getting counseling but she often tells me that she still feels like she's twelve and very scared. She's afraid of men and feels she's worthless. So I shared your words with her again, you are an inspiration. I wish society at large understood just how damaging grooming is and how healing is hard and painful. It's not talked about enough, so when I saw your posts, I literally had tears. I try to talk to her openly, I want her to know that others do care and do understand. She still feels her parents will blame her. I can only say to you and her, you are stronger than you know, I don't think I could have survived abuse like that but you are survivors and these groomers are not worth your time and tears. Stay strong and beautiful! Your words are making a difference for a very tormented girl. 💗💗💗
@@iolitelight Oh my goodness, poor girl. I never experienced violence with him other than sexual abuse, but I cannot imagine how much physical threats would take it to another level of pain and fear. I feel for her, trauma like that really can make you feel like you’re stuck at that age when it happened and feel mentally/emotionally stunted. You saying that my post brought you tears brings tears to my eyes. You’re so sweet, and I can tell that you are a great aunt to your niece. I send you both my love ❤️
Thank you same here. It’s heart breaking when people say this because my mom would do ANYTHING for me and I’m sure it’s the same for you. I’m so sorry you also went through that. All love for you and your family
They just said she didn’t break the law but she did when she sent porn to a minor. That is a felony. She should be on a list.
I hope the police department set their eyes on her
This podcast is from a couple of months ago, it doesn’t seem like the trisha stuff was out there yet
We need to leave Mister Rogers out of this. God rest his cardigan covered soul.
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Ditto!
Fred rogers is a treasure.
That's right!❤
She doesn’t even compare by a crumb!!!
"This child should feel lucky that the person that groomed them wasn't worse" is an INSANE THING FOR AN ADULT TO SAY, OUT LOUD, ON PURPOSE.
yeah because ever victim ever has that thought, over and over, as a way of convincing themselves they're overreacting so that they don't have to feel bad, until they find a way to say "oh, yeah, it WAS bad enough to cause me years and years of trauma... it didn't need to be worse for me to feel like it was bad."
The "lucky" people are the ones who weren't groomed at all!
weird fucking taking from this guy.
As an aside, Josh was at nikki and Steve’s wedding. Colleen was not. And never would’ve been.
im glad josh was able to speak about his story
He's hot so I'm glad too tbh!
@@knight8513chief that is not the takeaway from this
@knight8513 "he's hot" is that all you care about this is serious stuff
@@knight8513we’re talking about abuse, get a grip
I'm so tired of people blaming your parents. Kids WILL find a way! Period. To drink, smoke, have relations, do dangerous things on the internet; KIDS WILL FIND A WAY. And it's always the kids with the most involved hover parents that are the SNEAKIEST. I had a second facebook that I kept hidden from my mom and one day she found it somehow when I was about 13. I got grounded for MONTHS. Well guess what? My friend gave me her old phone, I figured out how to use the WPS button on the wifi router, and I kept it on my person on school days, and times when I had to hide it, I put it between my mattress and box spring. I'm now 20 and to this day my mom still has no clue! And I was still talking to strangers and adults on the internet. Of course I now know how truly dangerous that was, but no matter how much my parents explained to me the dangers of it, I never listened! Point being, kids are negligent to their own safety because they think they are invincible, and kids will find a way no matter what!
Didnt know clutch friend giving you an old phone when you’re grounded would be something I’d find in common with someone 😭 stay safe out there!
@@lanax7922 Me either! How random!😂 Same to you!!
i agree, i did crazy shit on the internet all the time when i was a minor and my parents were really good parents, involved and monitoered a lot but even they didn't know
i saw someone comment on swoops video the other day saying 'why are we blaming johnny's parents and not adam's' as if it's not obvious
but either way, unless the parents actively knew everything and didn't care/encourage it i don't see the point in blaming the parents for something they didn't know
like i get WHY people have this take because obviously parents shouldn't let kids do this but they fail to realize just how hard it is to constantly monitor their kids while also giving them enough privacy and space that they need as a teenager and not treating them like a prisoner
i want everyone with this take to think of what they were like as a teenager or kid and ask yourself if you hid shit from your parents and would say your parents are 'bad' because they didn't know
obviously some people genuinely have bad parents but i'd like to think in most cases that's not the case but if that is the case just say you can't comment on that lol, not every parent is bad because their kid hid stuff
@@lanax7922same. lmfao i feel so validated, never thought anyone else experienced this. We are all similar in age it seems so this was all the same time frame… let me guess for y’all it was also 2011-2015 LMFAO
This is so important! It's not the parents' fault, it's not the kids' fault, it's the fault of the adult who crossed lines and acted inappropriately.
The SWOOP interview really made me feel for Josh. My heart broke just seeing the way he went still and stared wide-eyed as SWOOP validated the abuse he experienced from Colleen, praised him for speaking out against his abuser, and when she agreed with Josh that there is a double standard for men who are victims of domestic abuse. You could just tell he really needed to hear that. 😭💔
Don’t come for the mama. Mom, you did the best you could with the information you had at the time. You also did waaaaay more than most. You trusted your gut, and kept your kiddo safe. ♥️
Exactly, I mean kids get sexually abused by people the parents trust, all the time and the parents don’t know about it. To blame the parents is pretty deplorable. So to blame Adam’s mum when she did her best to protect, Adam is really nasty. Kids hide stuff from their parents all the time.
My parents were pretty strict but the adults manipulating me taught me how to be sneaky. Taught me things my parents didn’t know at the time. When you’re naive/people pleaser sometimes they’ll make you the person they are searching for.
Yes they are opportunists, it is never the parents fault.
@@personincognito3989 yep. I still remember the first time a stranger tried to get me (like 11yrs old) to send them nude photos. They eventually started leaving voicemails on my parents phones because I used parents phone, but didn’t have the voicemail password.
Everything new I learn about this situation just makes me feel so much worse for Josh. Hope he’s doing okay.
Reminds me of when the Click found out mid-recording that the troll that has been harrassing him and his friends with allegations about him for YEARS was actually illuminaughtiii’s sock puppet account.
Makes me realize Colleen is done. Karma always comes around.
He's married to a wonderful woman. Things might be hard with everything coming up again, but I have every confidence together, they'll be ok.
@@aekellythis comment!! His wife seems so freaking supportive and I love that he’s with someone that will support him.
So glad Josh feels supported. He really went through it. Side note, this is why I think Colleen is so stupid. She was so sloppy when she was telling/texting people horrible things about Josh. She never stopped to think that it would wind up biting her in the ass!
P.S.- we all think you are a well spoken young man😊.
She's sloppy because she's got a huge narcissistic ego! It was never about a cunning orchestrated plan for her, it was always about being cruel.
So when a 30 year old man gets caught communicating with a 12 year old girl secretly however he is communicating with her whether it’s text, email, chats, social media the world is outraged and automatically 100% blames the disgusting 30 year old man. Why is it that every time it’s a woman predator people want to blame the child’s parents?
Preach it!
Sexism. The justice system is very soft on female criminals. It just isn’t called sexism because it benefits women.
Patriarchy. Men are always praising boys who get groomed or assaulted by adult women saying they’re lucky or some other shit. They also believe women are too weak and innocent to commit crimes which is why women criminals don’t get the book thrown as hard at them
This!!! Gender equally in crimes is also very very important
Because unfortunately misogyny is something that negatively impacts EVERYONE, not just women. If there's a pervasive cultural belief that women are too "soft", "maternal", "weak", and "incapable" of committing heinous crimes like DV, SA, or in this case, gr00ming, the justice system (and sometimes even the general public) doesn't hold them accountable for their actions and instead finds ways to blame their victims for not doing more to "prevent" the abuse being inflicted upon them. It's so gross.
Adam, it’s absolutely okay that you toot your horn because you’ve been telling the truth for years! And for those of us that have been in similar situations, when we are finally validated. It means so much to heal our ptsd! 🥰
Agreed. Toot your horn because you took the brunt of being the first one to break through and tell your story and suffer the backlash
ikr fr im not crazy and what ive been threw is real thank the lort
I’ve been following your vids this year and really respect how brilliantly you’ve handled everything and put it all together, but it was so funny and caught me off guard to see my boyfriend from JK news pop up on here hahaha!! (The bearded dude Ryan) Also they were wearing ugly tracksuits as a joke but it’s hilarious that it was this video they’re wearing them in 😂
It's kind of funny how they are discussing such serious topic in these suits, not gonna lie. Out of context, it just looks like they are wearing their usual outfits, haha
When parents control everything their child does, everything they watch, everything they do online, everyone they talk to, those parents get criticized and called helicopter parents. When parents aren’t watching or controlling everything their children do, they’re called bad parents. People will always have something to say. Regardless of whether or not Adam’s parents are at fault- I am 100% sure that they feel the guilt. I am 100% they blame themselves at times. Because if I was a parent in that situation, I’d blame myself as well. I think any parent would blame themselves when their child gets hurt. It’s just a natural part of being a mother, a father, a guardian- taking the blame for what happens to our children. People need to stop trying to find people to point fingers at and focus on the persons that did the actual harm.
Let's be clear here. No matter what kind of parents someone has it's not the parents fault. The parents are actually victims as well. Imagine this child you nurtured and looked after and guided. And this horrendous thing happens to them. It's not the parents fault. Parents go through hell when they're child is abused in any way. They live with a guilt and say what if this, what and they live with the feelings of failure as a parent cause they fail to protect their child.
@@personincognito3989 I don’t fully agree with everything you said- but I do agree that the person we need to focus on is Colleen.
Never thought I'd see Adam watch JKNews, two of my favorite worlds colliding, side note Steve goes in whenever he is in that chair (presenter) he tends to be on the sideline giving an unbiased opinion if he can and will clarify if he was involved in anyway as he did in that video
frrrrr jknews or jkfilms was such a blast from the past
Same 😂😂
REAL AND TRUE
yessss i know right!!!! hahaha @@neonbuns8584
@@neonbuns8584I know!! I’ve been a fan for years so it was surreal to see him watching them
My heart was breaking listening to Josh’s interview with Swoop, especially when he talks about his voice being silenced for the last decade or so. It’s just so sad that he’s never been able to speak on his experiences with the relationship n the abuse he went through. I’m so glad Swoop gave him her platform to speak on, the safe space she made for him, n the compassion she showed him throughout everything.
Your right Adam,, I’m a parent, and it’s SO hard to monitor Everything!!! I’m a strict parent and there’s still stuff that I don’t know about!! It’s NOT your parents fault and you can’t understand that until you are a parent of social media savvy kids!!
Colleen Ballinger was “the Mr. Rogers of TH-cam”?!
Okay, granted I don’t get out much, and yes, I’m an old lady who remembers Mr. Fred Rogers, but I don’t ever recall him asking his little neighbors, in his little accent, what their favorite positions were.
This is an awful comparison to make. I mean, I’m sort of okay with the world forgetting that German accented William Alexander invented the “happy little roads” long before Bob Ross ever frizzed out his hair-but this. This is slanderous, you guys.
Love your show, Adam. Seriously never knew any of this happened to you before this summer. Happy you’re being validated at last.
The guy was saying that that was the perception of her before this. People who knew of her but didn’t watch her saw her as a children’s entertainer.
From what your mom did do though, like waiting for you a bit away from where you were supposed to meet up with Colleen. To stopping what she did know about. You got a good mom!!! Just wait till these guys have teens, kids always know how to hide shit from their parents. I always told my mom half truths to hide shit and it worked a lot of the time. She knew something was off but could never prove what exactly... And teenagers especially always find a way to hide shit!
Agreed strict mom of 2 adult sons! I thought I knew what was going online and found out recently what they hid from me! Your mom is awesome!
35:06 adam, you made such a great point here. Kids will be sneaky BUT the adult responsible for creating a secret environment to talk to kids is the one who deserves the hot seat. We love mama McIntyre
Those of us who are adults now who grew up in the 2000s know just how easy it was to hide the bad shit we were a part of online. Its hard to blame our parents because how were they supposed to know? Especially when they trusted us and thought we had enough education on internet safety.
Exactly! Life360 and parental controls weren’t a thing, or the parental controls that were a thing were very confusing for parents who were not tech savvy.
Misunderstanding the nature of grooming and its methods often results in wrongly placing blame on the parents when a child has been groomed. One of Groomers primary objective is to maintain secrecy, particularly from parents. The full responsibility lies with the adult groomer, not the parents. I’m sorry your parents had to deal with this situation.
4:57 what an awful time to be alive, someone comparing Colleen to mr Rogers?? 😅🥲 absolutely NOT 😂
Right?? Unacceptable lol
Yep.
Props to Becky for making this more known. Love it when all the pieces of the puzzle fit together
Colleen is the real life Regina George
Yknow that one scene in the mall where she pretends to like a girl's skirt and then immediately makes fun of it when the girl leaves? Yeah sounds like that's exactly how Colleen is
"She didn't break the law"
Ohhhh but she did
Sending adult content to a minor is a federal offense :))
Regina George, if Regina George never had any character development at the end of the movie.
My friend called Colleen and Korey "a match made in hell"
They truly are soulmates
Black rotten souls
When I was 14, I went above and beyond to hide internet things from my very strict and overbearing parents. Parents don't have as much control over their kids as kidless people think.
You're excellent at keeping your composure and cracking jokes. Happy to see you succeeding
Might be worth sending video links to them so they can get this straight. Your mum is absolutely not responsible! Abusers always try and divide and isolate people from even the most wonderful parents! Both your parents are not to blame - that kind of gaslighting to parents and victims isn’t OK. Please send them this video
one thing i’ll add to defend mama mcintyre: we are finally at an age where parents are cognizant of what their children are watching on the internet. my parents had no fuckin idea what me and my brothers were up to on the internet, it was so dangerous. they are just now catching up with instagram and youtube (my dad doesn’t even have socials) i feel like time adds to the context
i’ll say i’m impressed he managed to summarize everything pretty quickly and accurately. i wonder what he thinks about the trishyland situation
As a child in the early I can attest to the fact that parents don’t know
I’m glad you talked about how you all had secret accounts. I think it’s very telling how systematically she had all of you under her umbrella of control right under the noses of everyone’s parents. It’s frightening as the very same tactics could and have been used by other abusers to keep even the most attentive parents in the dark.
When he was explaining how Colleen told people how embarrassing Josh was to her, i want to give the round of applause to the guy that said "then why is was she with him?"
Further shows she just wanted a punching bag.
It is so great that Josh is getting the support he needs because he deserves to be validated.
I don't really understand the "where were the parents" argument.... the idea of toxic parasocial relationships is still so new. I don't know that a lot of parents would even understand the difference between a tweet vs a dm vs a group chat 🤷♀️
Parasocial relationships have been studies since they 50s. They aren't new. Also, the parents ARE partially to blame. Although Colleen bears most of the responsibility, you can't deny Adam's parents needed to do a better job monitoring him. They literally dropped him off at her shows. Who does that? All parties need to be held accountable.
@@TRex9068 Social media and influencer culture and the affect it has on the mind of children is still a very new thing. The idea of being in close, inappropriate contact with a "celebrity" in group chats is not something that was even fathomable a little more than a decade ago. I'm not a parent and would never judge someone's parenting based on hindsight knowledge and information. What I do know is their minor child was purposefully traumatized by an extremely unhealthy adult and they've had to handle that for many years and my heart goes out to them. There were plenty of adults in the situation that actually had knowledge of wtf Colleen was doing and let it continue, yet somehow placing the blame on parents who likely didn't fully understand social media and influencer culture is ridiculous in my opinion.
@@amyandaugust I'm not excusing Colleen's actions though. I agree with you in that what she did was inappropriate and traumatizing. However, I disagree with the fact that 0 blame should be on the parents. I don't know how old you are, but chat rooms have been around since the 90s. Even if they didn't understand social media, adults understand the concept that strangers can talk to each other on the internet. There have been plenty of horror stories. I'm not saying they should be arrested or anything, I just believe they should've done a better job. This is a teachable moment. Also, for the Taylor Swift situation, I can't judge. I have no idea what safety measures those dads have in place.
I don't think people understand fully how crafty teenagers can be about hiding their lives from their parents. We've seen this happen unfortunately in way worse situations as well, where the parents do feel a lot of guilt because they didn't know, even if they took all the devices from their kids and the abusers would buy them new ones. There's only so much a person can do, parents included. And when our minds don't go to the bad places automatically, it's hard to take every possible scenario into account when protecting ourselves or our loved ones. This is why people say "How could I have been so blind" or "Why did I not see this coming", the reality is that when you're not sick like that, your mind does not see these things as a possibility most of the time. Adam, your mum did great with the information she had and that is all any of us an do.
I think the parent blaming narrative is being pushed because a lot of people that are commenting are very young and a lot of people don't have teenage kids. Just wait, They will do things you never thought they would do no matter what kind of parents you are.
yea i started going online a lot when i was 14 because i was depressed and stuff and my parents had no idea what i was looking at and i didn‘t wanna talk about it either cause that would have meant opening up. in my case it was harmless stuff but it was still unhealthy because looking for validation online just is unhealthy.
Can you imagine how traumatizing that day Steve confronted him would have been? I can’t imagine unexpectedly having all your fears confirmed and you KNOW your life is over as you know it
It’s not about “being smart.” It’s that she didn’t think there would be consequences. She was privelaged & she couldn’t fathom anyone saying anything to her. She was on top of the world, bringing everyone down around her with ease.
People who don’t wanna get caught are sneaky. She didn’t even think she needed to be sneaky, she felt like everything she did was flipping amazing.
Abusers can have another side to them so they can keep up the facade and make their victims look “crazy.” I’ve been through it. I was like Josh years ago: I wanted love but I never had a good model on what that meant until later. Abusers prey on people and they know who’s vulnerable. It makes me sick that victims are not believed. 💔
Yeah I liked what they had to say until they blamed your parents. Disgusting.
Lots of kids with loving parents end up abused but thats why they’re told to keep it a secret. To say kids who get abused have bad parents is gross.
My mom would have an aneurysm if she knew the amount of strangers I talked to on the internet lol.
@@aschofield687Sorry it's not your fault if something happens. Your kids will do stuff you never expected them to do just wait
@@aschofield687 It's almost like abusive celebrities make it an exciting thing to hide the abusive conversations for the victims. You're delusional if you believe you can 100% control your kid's life without some form of abuse all on its own.
Where were your parents? THIS is what grooming is!!! Isolating the child and teaching them to keep secrets. This is 100% on Colleen! AND I feel certain your parents HAVE said sorry to you.
Adam, I am so glad that more and more people are coming forward and validating Josh and your stories. CB and her vindictive pawns abhorrent behaviors have come to light and they can’t bury the truth anymore! 🙌 I really hope that everyone that was victimized, used, and abused by CB and her cohorts is able to heal from the trauma and abuse that she put them through. 💞
I'm impressed at how much research he had done and only spoke of things that he was sure of but how could he totally gloss over the Trisha nudes? Especially when they asked him if there were any crimes or not.
33:11 through 34:15
one of my biggest flex is supporting Adam since early 2020
She is way too dangerous to forget! Keep talking Adam!!❤
Damn I never been this early
So far from what I've seen, Josh is being supported and validated and it makes me happy. Glad that his story is not being misconstrued.
Loving all your videos, wishing you all the healing and red bulls you deserve it all after all you've been through. been watching you for years, so happy to see all the support you've been getting
I loved Steve and Nicki so much back when I also watched all the horrible TH-camrs who are now cancelled.. so it’s nice to see SOME of the TH-camrs I watched everyday were actually authentic people, with morals. Props to Steve 🫡
It is never the parents fault if a child is groomed. Groomers are good at what they do. Especially that many years ago when grooming wasn't as known. I am 8 years older than Adam and talked to many grown adults on the internet starting when I was around 9 or 10 and my parents still do not know that to this day. I teach my 10 year old about grooming, but that doesn't mean it could never happen to her. I hope Adam's parents hold no guilt for what happened!
Well, I wouldn't say never, especially since I was groomed by my parent. And I have seen situations where the neglectful attitude of parents has left a friend of mine way more vulnerable to grooming. But overall I agree with the sentiment of your post - a parent can do their best to prevent that from happening but you can never 100% prevent this from happening.
Its fascinating how your mind works. Your basically saying no parents can out-smart a groomer and protect their kid. How is it not their fault?? They're to blame as well.
@@spicesandstories1they can’t outsmart a groomer if they don’t even know a groomer exists, which is what happens during the grooming process when a kid slowly gets told the groomer is more trustworthy than their parents and if their parents found out something bad would happen, Adam has also spoken about the context of his life outside of Colleen at the time where he was having a difficult time w connecting to his family anyway bc of bullying and internalised homophobia where he says his mum was basically trying her best to give him the space to decide how much he told her while also making sure he always knew she supported and loved him
His parents tried their best and only now in 2023 do they know the full extent of what happened, Adam was made to feel such shame and humiliation for what happened to him that he kept it from them even after coming out about how Colleen treated him in 2020
Yeah the concept of child predators and dangerous people on the internet wasn't known by the general public til the 2010s. Lol. They knew she sent their kid bra and panties. His parents have so many wrongdoings in this as well. And that doesn't take the pressure off of Colleen at all. At. All. He says lot of it happened at school. Well then those teachers are to blame as well. I find it unfortunate for Adam that if he didn't came up with a joke tweet that led to his downfall with Colleen, all the manipulation done by Colleen would have continued because his parents had no influence about discouraging him from stopping being a fan. It was the downfall as well as Adam himself growing up and realizing like holy shit all the things she's done to me are so wrong for this and this reasons. He himself realized all that, his parents were not the ones waking him up when they should have been.
@@spicesandstories1 girl be so for real right now the teachers would’ve only been able to act on anything if he reported it and they weren’t going to know the details of how much of a fan of her he was, they would’ve been in violation of his privacy and safeguarding if they went digging into his shit
You’re also missing the part where they told him the underwear was inappropriate and took it away, the fact that his mum waited outside while he met her in Dublin, and once again the fact she tried to have conversations w him to see if he was ok. She cannot know what he isn’t telling her and as a child being groomed he’s not going to tell her he’s being groomed, stop trying to pin shit on his parents when the only way for them to know was to violate his boundaries and privacy and potentially push him further into colleen’s manipulation bc he would feel less inclined to trust them
when you're a typically trustworthy kid, it's easy to keep something big from your parents (or downplay it), especially when you have an adult advising, helping, and enabling you along the way.
It's not for shock value. More and more and more keeps coming out. More victims feel comfortable saying their truth
People who say "where were the parents, why aren't we blaming the parents" simply DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT GROOMING IS
I’m glad josh got to speak his truth
Their whole take was so on point until they blamed the parents for not knowing about it. Kids hide things all the time, and then when they found out, they stepped in and took action to protect their kids. Even when Colleen had her own kids, she didnt realise how her actions were so toxic and wrong towards these kids who were victims of her.
Also, what do these people expect some kid's mother to do to take down a celebrity who's being hurtful? I'm struggling to see what these people believe is possible for common folk to do that could end the cycle of abuse of a popular influencer.
It's very wrong to assume that any parent can know everything that goes on with their teen. Kids have ALWAYS kept secrets from their parents. I kept secrets. It is never the kids fault or the parents. If those guys would have stopped for a minute and thought about it they would have realized how much THEIR parents didn't know.
love u adam, hope ur doing well through all of this, i know it must be hard having to repeat ur story so much to so many people. stay save
something i like about Adam is that he criticizes people in such a good and kind way like isnt an asshole about it ever and also isnt afraid to share what he thinks
The fact that Shane Dawson said she talked shit about everyone should’ve been a bigger red flag at the time
From the standpoint of someone who has a loved one who was a victim of grooming, it really isn't a black or white "you guys should have done this" we did everything, we took her phone away, her computer, we communicated to her teachers that she needed to be monitored while she was at school but despite all of this she still gained access to her groomer. This predator knew what he was doing, my relative wasn't his first victim, and it took her seeing her friends who he also groomed who met him through her for her to have that aha moment. It was difficult afterwards, the two of us had been so close, but the lies and manipulation she had directed towards me throughout the years that she was talking with this man had created a wedge in between us- he made her hate my family at one point, he wanted her to feel completely isolated in our family when before she'd met him she was like a little sister to me and all of our cousins. We still haven't really talked about it, it's been nearly ten years but it's still such a fresh wound, and it was only in the last few years that she and I started talking again.
I've gone to therapy over this, the amount of guilt I feel still for not being able to protect her still weighs on me. I have to constantly remind myself that he was the one who groomed her, but there's always that little part nagging in the back of my head that I should have done this, should have done that- it used to eat me up inside. At the end of it all, she's moved on, she's getting married to her bf who's pretty cool and we're able to talk again which is all I could ever hope for- I will say, if I ever meet that creep in person he better run, I don't hate anyone really except for that evil motherfucker and his wife.
I hope Steve sees this so he can understand how your parents were not at fault here
Josh took accountability for things instead of blaming other people and I was so sad what happened to him too he was also a victim
I'm so glad that you fully explained how sneaky kids can be when they are hiding things from their parents. My daughter is 15 and though I feel like I am well aware of what she is doing, I know that there are many things that she (possibly) has hidden from me. And that's ok, because she's figuring herself as I do my best to lead by example.
You divulging the lengths you kids went through to maneuver around your parents reminded me of my high school days when pagers were a thing (if you were 'cool') and we thought we were clever using coded #'s.
I'm so happy that you and all other victims she and her friend hurt are continuously validated.
She needs serious M.H. help. Adam you're a strong person.
35:30 yeah I absolutely agree, Adam. If I’m a parent and I find out that my kid is talking to another grown adult in an inappropriate way… I’m not going to be upset at my impressionable kid, I’m mostly going to be questioning the other ADULT in the situation who should clearly know better ?? Hello ??? 🤔🤔
How Josh explained it. it was Steve Greens now wife that said that they were told they should hate Josh not Steve. Josh said how Steve was trying to get his now wife not to talk about it. from swoops video unless i listened wrong
Correct.
Holy ! 7 seconds of the video being live! Hellloooo mother mucker! Love how much you’re grown since 2020 ❤️❤️
Thanks for speaking and keeping all of us updated on this horrible, and criminal. When are legal action going to take place. Adults being gross with minors are EVERYWHERE now day!! Hollywood, music, social media, etc.. It’s so hard to talk about and listen to also but we need to, if anything is going to happen or brought a light to people true actions and person they are!
What’s going on in this world? Like in every aspect of the world it’s messed up, users, unkind, very dark, and hateful…. Makes me sad.
You only have control over yourself. I have to remind myself,and just try to be better then my past self!!!!❤❤❤
Thank you!!!
That last bit was a wild take. Can you imagine on how to catch a predator if the culprit was like this is the parents fault your honor for not monitoring their child’s computer so therefore I should get a lighter sentence or when something horrific happens to an actual child people told the parents you deserved it bc you didn’t watch your child enough 🙄
I’ve been subbed to this page since junior high and I’m 26 now this is wild
It's beyond me how easily people are to want to share blame with the victims parents. Like were they never a kid or teen that hid shit from parents or adults? Colleen is solely responsible full stop.
Oh man, I thought the guy in the thumbnail looked familiar lol. I was such a big fan of just kidding news back in 2020.
Queen, toot that horn for everyone to hear. You deserve it. ❤ youve been real and authentic since day 1.
dude the tampon thing freaked me out the most, the video she shared with children in the chats of her inserting a tampon in her mouth and wiggling it around is literally disturbing.
I haven’t watched justkiddingnews since I was in high school so its kinda wild to see you just watching them lol
Lol same
not high school for me but it has been a while. When Joe was with Jess lol
I think there's a major disconnect with older millennials/younger gen x, where they had some exposure to tech growing up, but they don't understand how fast that landscape changed. I used to work in schools and zoomers are leagues more tech-savvy than their parents, because their parents didn't have anything like this growing up. Millennials understand it because it started gaining traction when they were younger, but for a lot of zoomers' parents this stuff didn't come out until they were fully adults. When I was in high school there were firewalls and banned content to protect us, but most of the students knew how to circumvent it. Most of the teachers didn't even know it *could* be circumvented, let alone that we were doing it. How are parents supposed to track their child's computer or social media activity when that child knows infinitely more about computers, apps, etc. than the parent does? That's difficult enough to navigate in a regular situation, it becomes even harder when another adult is secretly coaching those kids on how to trick/hide things from their parents. There are for sure some parents that just hand their kids an ipad and check out, but even a caring, involved parent can miss things in a situation like this.
Damn, Steve is almost as thorough as Swoop’s team!
JUST KIDDING NEWSSSSSSSSSS I used to watch them in middle school what a flash back
Regarding the ‘your parents are to blame’ argument while sure I can see how it gets brought up 1. Grooming breeds in secrets. They go hand in hand 2. Teens know how to hide things, especially as it involves technology, even with the best of parents!!
If Adam never decided to become a content creator I don't think she would have ever been called out. Bet she hates a kid she took advantage of was the catalyst to her demise. Sweet karma
To compare her to Shane.
He apolgized and went away.
She made UKELELE SONG that goes down in history , this story cant ger away cause her response will always be memed and refrenced for years to come
Shane absolutely did not “apologize and go away” he is still drawing in millions of views on TH-cam and his content is still reprehensible
@@liesbeneathoureyeshe still get views but not as big as before his cancelation
@@liesbeneathoureyes to be clear, Shane is disgusting inside and out, and I found his content super boring.
I'm not defending him in any way, but Colleen response is the most insane thing that ever was on TH-cam so everyone will never forget, even in my world of games and anime fandoms EVERYONE knows about it and meme it.
@@wyrdpink2549 again . I could not care less about Shane hes disgusting man . Its not about it. Its about the fact that Colleen response is a world wide meme that goes down in history.
@@wyrdpink2549 because Adam compared them and gave points.
So i response by saying that its not the action itself , but the UKELELE resonse that got the media attention to the story
every time you do the Kelly Osbourne bit, I’m dead lmfaoo
If she took accountability this will alllll be over. Look how howbgood it worked in joshs favor, the truth will set u free.
I used to LOVE steve green! he’s an OG and it’s so nice to see him validating Adam
I hate when people say this has gone on long enough (hell no!) and blaming the parents 😱👀
FINALLY. Someone who researches and gets all the details before telling another group of people/making a video on the subject.
I’m a younger millennial who has taught Gen Z teens and I’m getting tired of older millennials with this take of “Adam’s parents failed by not knowing the true nature of his relationship with Colleen.” It’s impossible for parents to know *everything* about their children. My students told me all the time that they kept things from their parents. I know for a fact they kept things from me even when they told me they trusted me more than their parents. There are just some things that children & teens will never share with their parents or the authority figures in their lives. The only person to blame for the inappropriate nature of Adam & Colleen’s relationship is Colleen. She was an adult who fostered & encouraged the relationships she had with children while discouraging parent involvement. That screams red flag to any adult.
Tbf... it doesn’t seem exclusive to older millennials, we got gen x and boomers with the same take, the people who birthed us and helped raise us, I’d say milenials in general were the first generation to break away from the ”blame the parents” talked bc we had the internet and knew damn well how easy it was to hide sh*t.
@@sjworrier0613 yeah, I know it’s not exclusive to older millennials; those are the just the people I’ve been seeing talk about this on their platforms, so that’s why I specified that I’m tired of it. There’s just a very clear difference between younger millennials/gen z who grew up alongside the rise of the internet and the older millennials who were already adults when it was growing to what it is now. I know Gen X and Boomers don’t get it either, but I haven’t seen any Gen X or Boomers invested in this topic and blaming Adam’s parents so that’s why I didn’t include them 🤷🏼♀️
I'm sorry but seeing such a like... "home grown American man" (idk how else to describe him) know so much about what happened is such a whiplash but in a positive way LOL. Like he stumbles a bit here and there but other than that he's doing his best, love him for that
them saying you were lucky because it wasn’t more predatory…wtf? that’s like telling someone who was groped “at least you weren’t raped”. like yeah obviously but does that somehow make the groping less of a horrible thing that has happened??
@adam McIntyre I just want you to know you are validated to speak your truth and I believed you before other people spoke up and I am happy you made it through this situation better off now and you deserve justice ☮️💜
Josh changed and changed again. It's called mistakes leading to growth. Good for the honesty of Josh being illuminated
Yeah the ending lost me which goes to show they did not follow it close enough. I used to be the person who would place blame on parents but the more I listened, I am learning that there's only so much parents can do! So the blame is solely on the groomer and no one else.
I was a kid/teen once. One of the best examples I can think of about doing something my mom didn’t want me to behind her back was when I was 10/11 years old and family guy and American dad were in the height of popularity and my mom told me I wasn’t allowed to watch them because they were inappropriate. Well, all the kids at school were watching, so obviously I had to watch those too so I could keep up with my classmates. I would snakily watch it behind my moms back or at friends houses so my mom didn’t know. My mom made the rules really clear but I went behind her back.
This makes me mad. If it was sexual grooming, Adam’s parents wouldn’t get dragged. It was Colleen’s fault. No one is perfect and Adam’s parents did their best with the information that they had. Also a lot of parents don’t know the extent of social media and do try to learn but it’s really hard to keep up with the different platforms. Also if an adult is saying don’t tell your parents because I’ll stop talking to you or trusting you etc and that person is your idol, YOUNG kids are going to do what their idol says. Ridiculous.
You clarified the “responsibility on the adult” piece really well. It seemed like he was lightly defending the image “good person” (cauldron badlinger) he once knew instead of the guilty adult that she is. They talked about how people should not release information (such as the tampon story) because it “distracts” from the story, when doing so brings context and establishes a pattern of inappropriate behavior with children. Also, It’s wild to tell people to pick and choose what to information to release when the harm was done to THEM. Lol “they had 24min of amazing takes” ¯\_(ツ)_/¯