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Yeah my mum had both me and my sister via c-section- and she is 100% my mum. If I have kids I'm opting for a c-section. Unconditional love and support. - Keep other peoples birth plans out ya damn mouth!
I was an emergency c section baby. I almost killed my mom and I almost didn’t make it too. I’m not even sure how this ties in because I just started but man that’s crazy
I wish the public was better educated on how C-sections work because it is not an easy process. Especially knowing that a good amount of them happen due to extenuating circumstances that are out of one’s control.
It’s SUPER common. Natural birth people feel superior to C-section birthers. Especially in the Latino community. It’s ridiculous. They both brought life into the world which is beautiful. There is no competition.
my mother had 4 C-sections, including me. that part where you said colleen believed her natural birth was "better" than trisha's C-section made me SEETHE.
That thought process in general pisses me off so damn much. My mom had 5 c-sections including me. Iirc, when she was having my oldest sister, she was having birthing complications and that led to the c-section. Me and my siblings wouldn't be here without those procedures.
It’s okay to like someone but also see their wrongs and hold them accountable. It’s also possible and okay to respectfully dislike someone. It’s really not that difficult at all.
@@littlebuggy886I agree, it’s just difficult when you think about everything she’s done but I have to say that Trisha has changed a lot since her daughter was born and it’s nice to see her so happy and different
It is difficult for someone relatively normal like you because of the emotional and moral factors. You see someone playing nice and getting along well with someone, and it makes you ponder if she's actually this nice, but you have to remember she has raped a couple of men, abused them on top of that and is really not a great woman. You can dislike her all you want. You have seen time and time again she has one narrative and that's herself.
It really is and I've always disliked her. I was put off by how she exploits her kids before I knew about anything else. While this may seem unfair, her face looks mean. It really does.
i'm actually shocked at how mean Colleen is/was... She hits a lot of the stereotypical mean girl notes, she kept Trish around to boost her own confidence so she could be the 'skinny pretty' one but theres something really sinister in it all I can't quite put my finger on
Agreed, there is something really evil about this. Sometimes I can't believe what I'm seeing! How could anyone be so malicious? Look at all the people she's hurt!
I think Colleen lived through Trisha. Colleen is prude prude prude! Trisha doesn’t give a fuck and does what she wants and Colleen is jealous about that. On the other hand Trisha is jealous of Colleens following. It’s a weird unhealthy dynamic
Remember when Trisha was saying she was sad she had a C-section because all she wanted was to experience them laying her baby on her chest after giving birth and then a few minutes later Colleen highlighted the fact that she loved when they laid Flynn on her chest after giving birth. Awful awful awful woman. Homegirl has some demons
14:39 Colleen inviting Trisha over to rub in her face “ I have what you want” brought me to tears. I’m in that place as Trisha, it’s really vulnerable and makes one feel crazy, both wanting a relationship/a baby before it’s “ too late”. This truly would have me curl up and die inside
Oh no! Get away from them. It’s abuse. You deserve to be happy, and you can be. And later, they will be so upset that you are actually happy. They are never happy, they think hurting others and money and having all the romances will fill the evil pit that is their hearts. Yeah, it’s sad, but they are still evil, and not worth another second of your time.✌️♥️
@@tegantalks9612 that’s really so lovely of you to say. I hope so too. I’m trying to accept that it may be just me, myself, my dog and a kid through immaculate conception or otherwise, but I also really hope so.
ive hated joey for years now. a while back he posted a video crying that he just learned an old friend had unalived themselves a year before and said that s*icide was "selfish." i instantly unfollowed everywhere and forgot he existed. like what a gross opinion. i pray he never knows what it feels like to go to sleep every night praying not to wake up the next morning.
If you go to bed with that thought in your head, please don't forget that you are here on this planet for a reason. Although we don't always realise it, somebody would miss us, and the rest of their lives would be a lot sadder without us in it. Sending you a virtual hug.
Suicide is selfish though. As someone diagnosed BPD, anxiety, ptsd, suicide is selfish. I’ve been so suicidal many times. Unaliving yourself just takes your pain and spreads it to your loved ones.
@@babygirrrl5147yeah, it's a really difficult topic to navigate tbh. It's incredibly painful to have to live every day when you really don't want to and being told that it's selfish to finally end it really fucking sucks. But then I experienced being on the other side of things where I have been terrified that I'd wake up to find a loved one dead and watching someone in hospital being on the verge of death multiple times. It's a pain you can't really conceptualise until you experience it, especially so when you're hurting so much. I now view it like you're carrying a bomb of pain that'll explode and spread to people who love you (including people you'd never even consider would be affected by your death) but it can (and will) eventually go away or become easier to live with over time and therapy. That idea kept me alive in my worst time when my literal first thought of the day was of killing myself. I have a lot more complicated feelings about my sister's current suicidality that do include being angry at her "selfishness" but realistically, it's just a really shitty situation for everyone involved and it's a type of "selfishness" that I have to forgive. Like there's different degrees/ types of selfishness with some being worse than others and some being more understandable than others so it's really complicated. To the original commenter, I'm really sorry to hear that you have to live with this. It's really fucking difficult but life can always get better. Even if there's a 1% chance things will improve, it's better than the guaranteed 0% chance that suicide causes. But I do truly hope it gets better sooner rather than later for you.
@@babygirrrl5147 It might be selfish in a way, but we are allowed to look after our own mental health first. If someone doesn't see any way to get better, nobody cares about them and actually actively helps them in the way they need to feel better, the suffering whether it be mental or physical can become so much with no way out or ever feeling okay again and nobody who is there for them. It's a relief for them - the only way to feel better again or end the pain/nightmare they live. And people close to them that care will understand and be "happy" for them in a way knowing they are in a better place now. Death is always said in a way as someone you were familiar with or even cared about is suddenly gone. But keeping someone from ending their suffering is just as selfish as you let them be tortured just because you would be missing them from your life.
@babygirrrl5147 As someone with autism, BPD, anxiety, OCD, PTSD, Myasthenia Gravis, and possible fibromyalgia while also being alloromantic asexual (see we all have something, it doesn’t make our opinion more right), I’ve been suicidal as well. The selfishness thing is always thrown around. And you know what else is selfish? Person A wanting Person B to stick around no matter how unhappy they are, just to make Person A feel better. See? The selfish card can be played both ways.
Oh my God- that is so freaking deranged that Colleen would invite Trisha over to rub in her face that she had a baby!!!? That's so sick and is incredibly cruel.
keep in mind that’s adams interpretation and most likely not true. much more likely colleen invited trish for a mukbang because trish was known for them and she thought it would bring the views.
Adam supports women more than Colleen….an actual woman. That says a lot about what a hypocrite she is, and what a great feminist icon Adam is honestly ❤🎉
Oh yes nothing says feminism more than supporting two toxic women that talk trash about other women, racist, antisematic, xwnophobic ect. Very feminsit of him
@@owenronit took me 80000 reads but I think she means Adam supports women more Colleen who is a woman herself, supports women. Colleen is not a girl's girl but Adam is. Just bad wording I think!
I'm rooting for Trisha to turn her shit around and not be problematic honestly. I was rooting for her to turn it around before any of this. Tana is the last person she needs in her life if she's going to do that.
I think she’s been doing pretty great recently imo, she seems like shes matured a lot and I genuinely feel bad for her when it comes to all the Colleen stuff. She’s doing a great job when it comes to her staying out of/creating controversy.
I get the ick when people talk down on c-section moms. Recovering from surgery while caring for a newborn is rough. And nobody says to fathers “you’re not a real parent because you didn’t go through horrible pain!” So why say that about c-section moms?
C-section moms just go through a different kind of horrible pain. Having a major surgery and then having to do physical therapy so you can have proper abdominal function and get your abdomen back to how it's supposed to be. Ridiculous.
C-sections are even recomended by doctors because is safer in some contries c-setions are more comon than “natural” birh people who shame c-section moms are so stupid
Trisha (one of the biggest liars on the internet) telling Tana (also one of the biggest liars on the internet) that Tana is honest to a fault while Tana agrees is, coincidentally, another lie.
maybe she meant lacking in discretion to a fault. ie sharing every detail of one’s sex life and doxxing of actual professional women because she was too lazy to learn about wine
I'm going to be real though, the timing of it being right after Colleen gave birth is no coincidence. You know she was having some kind of weird crisis and probably having her body image issues get worse because of her post birth body. I am sure that she saw Trisha as an easy target because she is plus sized but I also think that Colleen certainly resented that Trisha was a bombshell and sex symbol while Colleen probably did NOT feel attractive at that time.
I'm just gonna go back to something I've said before about Colleen... how tf does this woman have a net worth of 15 million and NOT get a therapist for her issues.
Colleen is messy, divorced and bitter and is so jealous of everything Trisha has. She always looked down on Trisha and doesn't want to believe that Trish is a better person and thriving. Trisha didn't have to do anything but be a good friend, and Colleen dug her own grave.
My mom tried to give natural birth with me for 12 hours until she went unconcious. And I am so grateful she did because if she tried few minutes longer I would have suffocated. After that she was scared to give natural birth, so both my siblings were also delivered through C-section… cant believe someone would be so cruel to say a way to DELIVER A CHILD is worse or better than the other way
Tana will call out anyone and everyone. Anything to keep the attention off of her so people don’t remember all the awful shit she’s said and done, even recently. Edit: I’ll keep speaking out against her because she’s SO harmful for young kids and teens online, and that’s her primary audience, I’m sick of seeing her platformed by creators.
Yeah i saw her fans attacking someone and all their profile pics looked like 12 year olds that were left in the microwave too long. OOF like sloth from the goonies with high pony tails. Just leave them there they need something to grab onto.
I like to call her a chameleon, the "body of work" stays the same but her opinions and who she sides with change like that to fit the person she's aligning with at the moment
@kat_emu constant false accusations and adding to the stigma around victims is never a good look, she's constantly glorifying skinniness (she said looking at Eugenia Cooney makes her want to stop eating) promoting scams (just like Tana), she is a literal family channel - idk this whole "she gave birth, back onto the pedestal she goes" thing people are doing is weird af, and I know Trisha from back in the day. When she was doing Hello Kitty hauls. Her behavior has been consistent
Tana, the very woman who tried to get Cynthia fired, threatened to kill her and doxxed….calling out Colleen? I don’t know how….but that feels very hypocritical to me.
The very last still of you in this recording is so wholesome. You look so happy. I really hope you are happy and doing well! Take care of yourself. Sending you and anyone reading this all of my love and best wishes!
The idea of bringing a person around your husband and child SPECIFICALLY to rub it in that person’s face that they don’t have what you have is so beyond disgusting I actually can’t even believe it. Like I believe it but I can’t conceptualize it. Holy shit.
Trisha: "you're honest to a fault!" Also Trisha: goes on a rant about how she & Tana "lie for fun" Which one is it girl? Can't trust a word she says, but I'm glad she's enjoying her life. What Colleen did to her was disgusting.
I think it's that both of them have literally no filter, so whatever they think they just say (hence "you're honest to a fault"), but they both also enjoy telling little white lies which involves some forethought. It's almost like when little kids lie about certain things concerning themselves to be cool like "I go to bed at midnight". It's not true, but ultimately the lie isn't hurting anyone lol. This is just my take. I've never been a fan of Trisha, but I'm very into her motherhood/mentally healthy era
@@marliewarhaftit’s for suuure a bit of that little kid mindset, as someone with a terrible childhood and cptsd, that’s obvious loll but also i think that that original comment was Trisha poking fun at Tana for getting drunk and being terrible to the wine lady and the Instagram dm girlfriend person bc now that they are both in their healing era, it’s not quirky it’s embarrassing and she’s gently attempting some accountability in the form of a joke 😂😂❤ I’m curious to see how these two get through this tbh
Have you seen the needle that they use for a spinal for a c-section? That sucker is a solid 6-9 inches long. It’s massive, and if you move you can become paralyzed. Trisha is *SO* fucking strong to be able to go through that, and then having to deal with Colleen’s betrayal on top of struggling to be get pregnant again. She deserves the friend that she thought Colleen was
The second you flashed Colleen having Trisha over to talk about her birth story I thought “oh that’s hateful to do to someone who repeatedly mentioned not being able to have children at that time”. SO nasty of Colleen.
Tana calling Coleen c*** in Trisha’s presence is so comforting and healing 😌😌😌💕💞🌸🦋🩵 I love love LOVE this podcast , I love Oscar , I love the guests , Trisha is glowing and so funny , we all loved frenemies and Trisha will always will be incredible podcaster , I want to see her thrive and Colleen should CHOOOKKKK
I genuinely hope Trisha manages to turn things around and leave the toxic reputation she had behind. I feel like some part of her really craves having a female friend to the point where she turns to people like Colleen and Tana. I just really hope she finds her way to become her best self.
I've always loved Trisha. Despite the issues. I just get her and I just can't help it. She might be messy at times but she's so honest. She does apologize when she does wrong even if people miss it lol. I love to see how she's grown! I love to see her thrive and kick ass. Colleen did her so dirty but even seeing how she's handling all this shows her growth.
Same. For some reason I can’t help but to root for her. I don’t I’ve felt like I’ve grown up with her. Or watching her life unfold with all the break ups with friends and family. And all her eras. Chicken nugget era, music video era, eating in the kitchen floor era and now she finally got her happy e era. And She always knows how to pivot if something fails.
Honestly, Trisha is kinda growing up on me...yes she needs to admit that she didn't want to call out someone she looked up to, but she is doing better as a person and I'm here for it!!
there really is nothing worse than finding out somebody you were super genuine with & thought liked you back, actually hated you the whole time. that's happened to me so many times & it's what makes me feel the worst for trisha. that kind of shit REALLY messes with your trust, it's almost like cheating tbh. even if it's just a friendship, too, it fucks you up BAD.
My opinions that have stood since I’ve seen these people: -Joey Graceffa has always given me mean girl vibes to the point I hated seeing him -Colleen has been unfunny since I turned 12 - tana has always given me mean girl who is “so real”. I feel like tana isn’t terrible like the other LA people but she’s def bitchy. -I’ve weirdly always loved trisha, I think she’s done terrible shit but she reminds me of my mom, like if me and my mom were a person it would be trisha - trisha and Colleen videos always gave me weird vibes cause Colleen didn’t seem as relevant in the TH-cam space that Trisha was in. Example: if Ryan Reynolds and a Disney star collaborated, they are in totally different playing grounds and is just odd.
As someone who has had 3 natural births I couldn't imagine how hard it is having a c section poor mums get put down I feel blessed I didn't need a major surgery and to the mums who did get a c section are so strong to care for a baby straight after a major surgery
That’s so messed up that Colleen invited Trish over to rub her baby and husband in her face. I’m so glad Trisha finally got her baby. I pity Colleen’s children.
It’s funny how Trisha acts like she doesn’t believe that Tana is face tuning. She talked shit about Tanas face tuned pictures on Frenemies like crazy! They are both such liars! 😂 I wouldn’t believe a word they say.
Seeing the videos of Colleen and Trisha, and Colleen trying to always have the better story to tell, reminds me so much of the mukbang she did with Rachel (her sister) at the end of 2019 or at the start of 2020. It was their recap of 2019. Colleen was not at all interested in hearing about Rachels highlights of the year, and she just wanted to brag about what she had done herself. It's so bad to see how Colleen was towards Trish, but to know that she can be like that with her own family, its not that shocking to see the mukbangs she had with Trish.
The problem with Tana is, she did the same with James Ch. or David D. and all of a sudden she was on pictures with them. She has no back bone imho. 🤷🏻♀️
I hope Gabbie is doing well too. I’m happy she seems to be staying off the internet and working on herself. I would love to see if she releases anymore songs in the future because some of them are pretty good.
Omg - the more you reveal about what “ Voldemort (CB)” said about Trisha is absolutely heartbreaking, and the fact that she thought it was okay to be friends with her in person is beyond me. 😢
🫣 I was 20 when ETN came out, and I watch it once a year, I feel the chaos was what made it great. The moment Gabby and Tana died in the last season I lived for it. XD
As an abuse and trauma survivor myself, it did break my heart for Trish when she mentioned the shame and embarrassment over this. I am glad people are reinforcing to her that it was Colleen’s wrong-doing.
As a mother who had to have a c section because i wasn't breaching. And than to loose my daughters 16 days after birth. F U Colleen for thinking your birth was better. A birth is a birth regardless!!!
😂 I love everything you said about Escape The Night. Such a waste of time 😂 Honestly glad you were shit talking him. It sucks because I love his ex, Daniel, but how can I trust him with everybody he surrounds himself around??
Without any words Colleen shows what kind of person she is by doing the podcast. Proving everything she is. I feel a sociopath.people with feelings,empathy don’t and couldn’t do that,knowing what you did to someone.she never thought it would come out. It always does.
Wait okay I only ever saw escape the night recently as an adult and I LIKED IT but only cause it gave me the warm fuzzies to see all the old TH-camrs from my childhood 😅
Tana hops on whatever trend or idea that is convinient for her. She is a constant problem and is in no position to speak on any issue because of her behavior. I appreciate anyone speaking out about Colleen, but i don't trust her as far as I can throw her.
I wouldn't really assume that Trisha right now is happy, sure, she can be but since we have no idea what's happening behind the scenes, just that based on the fact that she hit Moses and kinda fetishizes the shit out of him being Jewish, I'm not so confident saying that they're happy with each other. Just my 2 cents tho
So before this year I had no idea who Colleen, Josh, Johnny, or you were. Once the drama started is where I first started seeing you, I’ve been watching your videos for a while and just subscribed today. I LOVE seeing you in a position to enjoy this backlash towards Colleen. Instant fan of the petty. So glad to see Swoop covered this.
I don't think Tana will be repeating history. She has been a great friend to Jeff, and you can see how she treats Trisha the same. It's real, valuable, respectful, deep connection. I can see how genuinely Tana feels about Trish, and it's not even close to how shallow it was with Colleen.
Oh my god Adam, yay! I found your channel finally! I've watched the Swoop Docs and my ADHD brain never wanted to let me focus enough to find you the first time. Much love and support for you telling your story. Hope you're well. PS I love the Jack and Sally!
I feel for trish so so much in this. Any time i make a female friend, something happens where we are no longer friends. Like, just in my adult life, one tried to sleep with my boyfriend (and did) AND sleep with me/SA'd me, another i was so excited to find a friend to hula hoop with...she left our first real hang out to do hard drugs (?!) With some guy and eventually ran away from her trouble (?!) and got arrested (i really know how to pick them wtf) and in jail. And ofc there's several more. Most recent one she moved before i got a chance to hang out with her outside of work, thank god tbh. I have my lifelong female bff and my bestie whos also my husband and thats good enough now lmao.
Just wanted to say your Vlog out on the balcony yesterday really made me go outside and enjoy the night sky. Having a hard few mental days…❤ the scenery was nice.
Like many other people out there, I wouldn’t be here if not for an emergency C-section. Many others wouldn’t be here if not for scheduled c-sections. It saves lives. It’s gross to shame that.
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Man, it’s so gross how she shamed her birth. I can’t stand Colleen. C-sections saves lives.
Yeah my mum had both me and my sister via c-section- and she is 100% my mum. If I have kids I'm opting for a c-section. Unconditional love and support. - Keep other peoples birth plans out ya damn mouth!
This! My kids and I would've died if I didn't have c-sections.
and what woman wants their hooha stretched out and potentially ripped from childbirth. lol sorry to be so gross.
I was an emergency c section baby. I almost killed my mom and I almost didn’t make it too. I’m not even sure how this ties in because I just started but man that’s crazy
I wish the public was better educated on how C-sections work because it is not an easy process. Especially knowing that a good amount of them happen due to extenuating circumstances that are out of one’s control.
Tana was honestly spitting when she went off about Colleen. 100% justified reaction about someone who would be so horrible.
The last line sent me!!!!!!
Imagine undermining and shaming a mother how she gave birth 😳
As a mom, the online Mommy Wars are vicious
Then to have twins via C-section at around 24 weeks a few years later.. karma.
It’s SUPER common. Natural birth people feel superior to C-section birthers. Especially in the Latino community. It’s ridiculous. They both brought life into the world which is beautiful. There is no competition.
This is wild to me.. how sad they must be to feel like they have to do this to others.. just shows how extremely unhappy and insecure they are lol
Gives the same vibe as people who feel superior for breastfeeding
my mother had 4 C-sections, including me. that part where you said colleen believed her natural birth was "better" than trisha's C-section made me SEETHE.
That is messed up. C-sections save lives in certain cases and also, more doctors seem to be recommending them more to new mothers since it is safer.
Its not a competition likeee 😭😭 such a weird way for her to try and put trisha down
That thought process in general pisses me off so damn much. My mom had 5 c-sections including me. Iirc, when she was having my oldest sister, she was having birthing complications and that led to the c-section. Me and my siblings wouldn't be here without those procedures.
Imagine thinking getting CUT OPEN is inferior like… they’re both god awful in different ways
Your poor mother, that was so risky for her. She must be an incredibly strong woman.
Trisha is such a difficult person to have an opinion on
People can change and grow
It’s okay to like someone but also see their wrongs and hold them accountable. It’s also possible and okay to respectfully dislike someone. It’s really not that difficult at all.
It's also ok to just like certain aspect of a person and dislike or disagree with others
@@littlebuggy886I agree, it’s just difficult when you think about everything she’s done but I have to say that Trisha has changed a lot since her daughter was born and it’s nice to see her so happy and different
It is difficult for someone relatively normal like you because of the emotional and moral factors. You see someone playing nice and getting along well with someone, and it makes you ponder if she's actually this nice, but you have to remember she has raped a couple of men, abused them on top of that and is really not a great woman. You can dislike her all you want. You have seen time and time again she has one narrative and that's herself.
Seeing Colleen is triggering! She is so sickening and mean. What a a two-faced, evil person. It's good to see you smile Adam!
Can’t imagine how it feels for Adam :/
She’s not sickening and mean she’s just rude and disgusting
She has absolutely ZERO redeeming quality.
It really is and I've always disliked her. I was put off by how she exploits her kids before I knew about anything else. While this may seem unfair, her face looks mean. It really does.
i'm actually shocked at how mean Colleen is/was... She hits a lot of the stereotypical mean girl notes, she kept Trish around to boost her own confidence so she could be the 'skinny pretty' one but theres something really sinister in it all I can't quite put my finger on
The problem is, Colleen is not pretty and Trisha is.
Absolute narc behavior. She's seriously sick.
Agreed, there is something really evil about this. Sometimes I can't believe what I'm seeing! How could anyone be so malicious? Look at all the people she's hurt!
You must’ve not known Trisha for that long bc she’s done just as bad AND WORSE to females in the past. Including ‘friends’ she had.
I think Colleen lived through Trisha. Colleen is prude prude prude! Trisha doesn’t give a fuck and does what she wants and Colleen is jealous about that. On the other hand Trisha is jealous of Colleens following. It’s a weird unhealthy dynamic
Remember when Trisha was saying she was sad she had a C-section because all she wanted was to experience them laying her baby on her chest after giving birth and then a few minutes later Colleen highlighted the fact that she loved when they laid Flynn on her chest after giving birth. Awful awful awful woman. Homegirl has some demons
@ss84415 Yes Colleen’s an a hole poor Trisha my heart broke for her🥺🥺🥺
@ss84415 Yes omg Colleen is so freaking rude such mean girl vibes😳😳😳
14:39 Colleen inviting Trisha over to rub in her face “ I have what you want” brought me to tears. I’m in that place as Trisha, it’s really vulnerable and makes one feel crazy, both wanting a relationship/a baby before it’s “ too late”. This truly would have me curl up and die inside
I hope you get the family that you want and deserve.
it happened for her and it will happen to you too 🫶
Oh no! Get away from them. It’s abuse. You deserve to be happy, and you can be.
And later, they will be so upset that you are actually happy. They are never happy, they think hurting others and money and having all the romances will fill the evil pit that is their hearts. Yeah, it’s sad, but they are still evil, and not worth another second of your time.✌️♥️
@@tegantalks9612 that’s really so lovely of you to say. I hope so too. I’m trying to accept that it may be just me, myself, my dog and a kid through immaculate conception or otherwise, but I also really hope so.
@@katherinedenny8622 🥹🥹🥹 thank you
Colleen was and is so jealous of Trisha’s confidence and sucks at hiding it lmao
ive hated joey for years now. a while back he posted a video crying that he just learned an old friend had unalived themselves a year before and said that s*icide was "selfish." i instantly unfollowed everywhere and forgot he existed. like what a gross opinion. i pray he never knows what it feels like to go to sleep every night praying not to wake up the next morning.
If you go to bed with that thought in your head, please don't forget that you are here on this planet for a reason. Although we don't always realise it, somebody would miss us, and the rest of their lives would be a lot sadder without us in it. Sending you a virtual hug.
Suicide is selfish though. As someone diagnosed BPD, anxiety, ptsd, suicide is selfish. I’ve been so suicidal many times. Unaliving yourself just takes your pain and spreads it to your loved ones.
@@babygirrrl5147yeah, it's a really difficult topic to navigate tbh. It's incredibly painful to have to live every day when you really don't want to and being told that it's selfish to finally end it really fucking sucks. But then I experienced being on the other side of things where I have been terrified that I'd wake up to find a loved one dead and watching someone in hospital being on the verge of death multiple times. It's a pain you can't really conceptualise until you experience it, especially so when you're hurting so much. I now view it like you're carrying a bomb of pain that'll explode and spread to people who love you (including people you'd never even consider would be affected by your death) but it can (and will) eventually go away or become easier to live with over time and therapy. That idea kept me alive in my worst time when my literal first thought of the day was of killing myself. I have a lot more complicated feelings about my sister's current suicidality that do include being angry at her "selfishness" but realistically, it's just a really shitty situation for everyone involved and it's a type of "selfishness" that I have to forgive. Like there's different degrees/ types of selfishness with some being worse than others and some being more understandable than others so it's really complicated. To the original commenter, I'm really sorry to hear that you have to live with this. It's really fucking difficult but life can always get better. Even if there's a 1% chance things will improve, it's better than the guaranteed 0% chance that suicide causes. But I do truly hope it gets better sooner rather than later for you.
@@babygirrrl5147 It might be selfish in a way, but we are allowed to look after our own mental health first. If someone doesn't see any way to get better, nobody cares about them and actually actively helps them in the way they need to feel better, the suffering whether it be mental or physical can become so much with no way out or ever feeling okay again and nobody who is there for them. It's a relief for them - the only way to feel better again or end the pain/nightmare they live. And people close to them that care will understand and be "happy" for them in a way knowing they are in a better place now. Death is always said in a way as someone you were familiar with or even cared about is suddenly gone. But keeping someone from ending their suffering is just as selfish as you let them be tortured just because you would be missing them from your life.
@babygirrrl5147 As someone with autism, BPD, anxiety, OCD, PTSD, Myasthenia Gravis, and possible fibromyalgia while also being alloromantic asexual (see we all have something, it doesn’t make our opinion more right), I’ve been suicidal as well.
The selfishness thing is always thrown around. And you know what else is selfish? Person A wanting Person B to stick around no matter how unhappy they are, just to make Person A feel better. See? The selfish card can be played both ways.
Oh my God- that is so freaking deranged that Colleen would invite Trisha over to rub in her face that she had a baby!!!? That's so sick and is incredibly cruel.
keep in mind that’s adams interpretation and most likely not true. much more likely colleen invited trish for a mukbang because trish was known for them and she thought it would bring the views.
@@twilitbffr
@@twilitI doubt it’s just Adam’s interpretation, if she was willing to share Trisha’s nudes I’m sure she didn’t hold back on other things about Trisha
@@twilitit’s most likely both
Adam supports women more than Colleen….an actual woman. That says a lot about what a hypocrite she is, and what a great feminist icon Adam is honestly ❤🎉
Oh yes nothing says feminism more than supporting two toxic women that talk trash about other women, racist, antisematic, xwnophobic ect. Very feminsit of him
Actual woman? Keep your transphobia to yourself
To jump to accusations of transphobia over one word choice is really sad.
@@ocherishnope, it’s called being an ally.
@@owenronit took me 80000 reads but I think she means Adam supports women more Colleen who is a woman herself, supports women. Colleen is not a girl's girl but Adam is. Just bad wording I think!
Hearing tana be boldly open about the amout of face tume she uses is nice
agreed! wish more ppl were honest about stuff like that
Yes!! It’s why i followed her back when Ethan called her a Twinkie 😂😂😂😂 i wanted to hear her side and she was saying it then too
I'm rooting for Trisha to turn her shit around and not be problematic honestly. I was rooting for her to turn it around before any of this. Tana is the last person she needs in her life if she's going to do that.
Yeah, especially since Tana seems to be buddy buddy with James Charles again lmao
I think she’s been doing pretty great recently imo, she seems like shes matured a lot and I genuinely feel bad for her when it comes to all the Colleen stuff. She’s doing a great job when it comes to her staying out of/creating controversy.
@@fallenbeetana isn’t she cut that off Tana talks about it in her podcast says it was a huge mistake
@@Princessdiana30x that was months ago now, she's obviously gone back on that because she's accepting pr packages from his new makeup company.
Facts. Tana is a horrible influence, especially considering what she just did with the whole wine tour Cynthia scandal!
Girls like Colleen were my friends growing up. The best thing I ever did was never speak to any of them again.
the way tana is known by literally everyone for not showing up to collabs
Wonder if it’s alcohol related? Like the France thing.
I get the ick when people talk down on c-section moms.
Recovering from surgery while caring for a newborn is rough. And nobody says to fathers “you’re not a real parent because you didn’t go through horrible pain!” So why say that about c-section moms?
C-section moms just go through a different kind of horrible pain. Having a major surgery and then having to do physical therapy so you can have proper abdominal function and get your abdomen back to how it's supposed to be. Ridiculous.
@@braelinnbjerklie2144 exactly! Even if childbirth and c-sections were a cake-walk, PREGNANCY SOUNDS TERRIFYING!
@@lisapeesalemonsqueezah3241 pregnancy is exhausting as a whole. Especially if your kid goes over the due date like in my case 🤣
C-sections are even recomended by doctors because is safer in some contries c-setions are more comon than “natural” birh people who shame c-section moms are so stupid
Trisha (one of the biggest liars on the internet) telling Tana (also one of the biggest liars on the internet) that Tana is honest to a fault while Tana agrees is, coincidentally, another lie.
Not sure why people are being so fooled again by Trisha. It's ridiculous how she gets away with everything simply because she's a female.
Ya, I don't like either of them. Trashy. And they have been proven to both be Liars.
maybe she meant lacking in discretion to a fault. ie sharing every detail of one’s sex life and doxxing of actual professional women because she was too lazy to learn about wine
@@twilitthat’s what she meant i think😅 the girlies are in their healing era but mistakes happen and i think she’s embarrassed😂
Every once in a while when your accent really comes out, like in the word “poorly” in this vid, I can’t help but smile. I love it. 🇺🇸👍❤️🇮🇪
I'm going to be real though, the timing of it being right after Colleen gave birth is no coincidence. You know she was having some kind of weird crisis and probably having her body image issues get worse because of her post birth body.
I am sure that she saw Trisha as an easy target because she is plus sized but I also think that Colleen certainly resented that Trisha was a bombshell and sex symbol while Colleen probably did NOT feel attractive at that time.
You said it🤷🏼♀️👏🏻
I'm just gonna go back to something I've said before about Colleen... how tf does this woman have a net worth of 15 million and NOT get a therapist for her issues.
Colleen is messy, divorced and bitter and is so jealous of everything Trisha has.
She always looked down on Trisha and doesn't want to believe that Trish is a better person and thriving. Trisha didn't have to do anything but be a good friend, and Colleen dug her own grave.
My mom tried to give natural birth with me for 12 hours until she went unconcious. And I am so grateful she did because if she tried few minutes longer I would have suffocated. After that she was scared to give natural birth, so both my siblings were also delivered through C-section… cant believe someone would be so cruel to say a way to DELIVER A CHILD is worse or better than the other way
Can we make Collen's video one of the most disliked videos on the internet instead of Rebecca Black's Friday.
Fr tho Friday is iconic
Tana will call out anyone and everyone. Anything to keep the attention off of her so people don’t remember all the awful shit she’s said and done, even recently.
Edit: I’ll keep speaking out against her because she’s SO harmful for young kids and teens online, and that’s her primary audience, I’m sick of seeing her platformed by creators.
Yeah i saw her fans attacking someone and all their profile pics looked like 12 year olds that were left in the microwave too long. OOF like sloth from the goonies with high pony tails. Just leave them there they need something to grab onto.
I don't see how Trisha is any different
@@erika2m16how is Trisha continuously being harmful?
I like to call her a chameleon, the "body of work" stays the same but her opinions and who she sides with change like that to fit the person she's aligning with at the moment
@kat_emu constant false accusations and adding to the stigma around victims is never a good look, she's constantly glorifying skinniness (she said looking at Eugenia Cooney makes her want to stop eating) promoting scams (just like Tana), she is a literal family channel - idk this whole "she gave birth, back onto the pedestal she goes" thing people are doing is weird af, and I know Trisha from back in the day. When she was doing Hello Kitty hauls. Her behavior has been consistent
Tana, the very woman who tried to get Cynthia fired, threatened to kill her and doxxed….calling out Colleen? I don’t know how….but that feels very hypocritical to me.
Yuuuuuuup
The very last still of you in this recording is so wholesome. You look so happy. I really hope you are happy and doing well! Take care of yourself. Sending you and anyone reading this all of my love and best wishes!
At this point I’m not shocked by anything that comes out about Colleen anymore, she’s already shown she’s bottom of the barrel!
The idea of bringing a person around your husband and child SPECIFICALLY to rub it in that person’s face that they don’t have what you have is so beyond disgusting I actually can’t even believe it. Like I believe it but I can’t conceptualize it. Holy shit.
And how Colleen’s C-section was so traumatizing and Trisha’s wasn’t so she had the “bigger, better” story
Trisha: "you're honest to a fault!"
Also Trisha: goes on a rant about how she & Tana "lie for fun"
Which one is it girl? Can't trust a word she says, but I'm glad she's enjoying her life. What Colleen did to her was disgusting.
I think it's that both of them have literally no filter, so whatever they think they just say (hence "you're honest to a fault"), but they both also enjoy telling little white lies which involves some forethought. It's almost like when little kids lie about certain things concerning themselves to be cool like "I go to bed at midnight". It's not true, but ultimately the lie isn't hurting anyone lol. This is just my take. I've never been a fan of Trisha, but I'm very into her motherhood/mentally healthy era
multitudes, yk
@@marliewarhaftit’s for suuure a bit of that little kid mindset, as someone with a terrible childhood and cptsd, that’s obvious loll but also i think that that original comment was Trisha poking fun at Tana for getting drunk and being terrible to the wine lady and the Instagram dm girlfriend person bc now that they are both in their healing era, it’s not quirky it’s embarrassing and she’s gently attempting some accountability in the form of a joke 😂😂❤ I’m curious to see how these two get through this tbh
so glad ur covering this cuz i had such opinions with tana on that podcast because of our queen cynthia
Have you seen the needle that they use for a spinal for a c-section? That sucker is a solid 6-9 inches long. It’s massive, and if you move you can become paralyzed. Trisha is *SO* fucking strong to be able to go through that, and then having to deal with Colleen’s betrayal on top of struggling to be get pregnant again. She deserves the friend that she thought Colleen was
The second you flashed Colleen having Trisha over to talk about her birth story I thought “oh that’s hateful to do to someone who repeatedly mentioned not being able to have children at that time”. SO nasty of Colleen.
We love you Adam❤❤ I'm glad you are able to get your voice out
It seems like Colleen liked talking to Trisha so much because she was looking for someone with a worse life than her to feel better about herself.
Tana calling Coleen c*** in Trisha’s presence is so comforting and healing 😌😌😌💕💞🌸🦋🩵 I love love LOVE this podcast , I love Oscar , I love the guests , Trisha is glowing and so funny , we all loved frenemies and Trisha will always will be incredible podcaster , I want to see her thrive and Colleen should CHOOOKKKK
I’m not sure if Tana is a trust worthy friend…
I genuinely hope Trisha manages to turn things around and leave the toxic reputation she had behind. I feel like some part of her really craves having a female friend to the point where she turns to people like Colleen and Tana. I just really hope she finds her way to become her best self.
I've always loved Trisha. Despite the issues. I just get her and I just can't help it. She might be messy at times but she's so honest. She does apologize when she does wrong even if people miss it lol. I love to see how she's grown! I love to see her thrive and kick ass. Colleen did her so dirty but even seeing how she's handling all this shows her growth.
Same, she’s my guilty pleasure, I wanna spend thousands on glam and dress up and bling, and she is so sweet both her and Moses.
@@shanel4294 I love Moses for her!
I’m so sick of the internet. Seriously. Y’all suck. Y’all will be fawning over Colleen like this in a few years again. I’m over it
Same. For some reason I can’t help but to root for her. I don’t I’ve felt like I’ve grown up with her. Or watching her life unfold with all the break ups with friends and family. And all her eras. Chicken nugget era, music video era, eating in the kitchen floor era and now she finally got her happy e era. And She always knows how to pivot if something fails.
@@its.jyssicawith.a.y7882yes!! I have a bedazzled cup and i always think of her
NOT TANA SAYING COLLEEN CAN HAVE A SCREENING PARTY OF THEIR OF COLLAB IM FUCKING DYING EFSOHIDVNJ
Honestly, Trisha is kinda growing up on me...yes she needs to admit that she didn't want to call out someone she looked up to, but she is doing better as a person and I'm here for it!!
Totally agree. From she became a mum, she seems more settled ❤ hopefully she keeps growing, i hope it all works out for her.
Now if she and Ethan Kline could reconnect
I totally agree
She said Tana is honest in this.... Don't hold your breath
I don’t know this feels like Déjà vu…the internet is so weird lol
there really is nothing worse than finding out somebody you were super genuine with & thought liked you back, actually hated you the whole time. that's happened to me so many times & it's what makes me feel the worst for trisha. that kind of shit REALLY messes with your trust, it's almost like cheating tbh. even if it's just a friendship, too, it fucks you up BAD.
My opinions that have stood since I’ve seen these people:
-Joey Graceffa has always given me mean girl vibes to the point I hated seeing him
-Colleen has been unfunny since I turned 12
- tana has always given me mean girl who is “so real”. I feel like tana isn’t terrible like the other LA people but she’s def bitchy.
-I’ve weirdly always loved trisha, I think she’s done terrible shit but she reminds me of my mom, like if me and my mom were a person it would be trisha
- trisha and Colleen videos always gave me weird vibes cause Colleen didn’t seem as relevant in the TH-cam space that Trisha was in. Example: if Ryan Reynolds and a Disney star collaborated, they are in totally different playing grounds and is just odd.
I think Trish can do a great podcast on her own with the guy announcer that we saw a few times! They have great chemistry that sees somewhat genuine
As someone who has had 3 natural births I couldn't imagine how hard it is having a c section poor mums get put down I feel blessed I didn't need a major surgery and to the mums who did get a c section are so strong to care for a baby straight after a major surgery
That’s so messed up that Colleen invited Trish over to rub her baby and husband in her face. I’m so glad Trisha finally got her baby. I pity Colleen’s children.
I LOVE YOU ADAM you're my favorite content creator 🥰 I love your AITAH videos and I'm so proud of you for sharing your story with us about Colleen
i love escape the night bc its so bad its good
also matpat literally ATE THAT PERFORMANCE UP
I’m loving all this toxic gossip
🚂🚂🚂🚂🚂 🚂
All aboaaaard
It’s funny how Trisha acts like she doesn’t believe that Tana is face tuning. She talked shit about Tanas face tuned pictures on Frenemies like crazy! They are both such liars! 😂 I wouldn’t believe a word they say.
Same 😂
i’ve been binging your videos all day and i just went to my homepage and saw this 🙏 feeling blessed 🙏
Seeing the videos of Colleen and Trisha, and Colleen trying to always have the better story to tell, reminds me so much of the mukbang she did with Rachel (her sister) at the end of 2019 or at the start of 2020. It was their recap of 2019. Colleen was not at all interested in hearing about Rachels highlights of the year, and she just wanted to brag about what she had done herself. It's so bad to see how Colleen was towards Trish, but to know that she can be like that with her own family, its not that shocking to see the mukbangs she had with Trish.
Omggggg I LOVED hearing Tana go absolutely OFF on Colleen. You can tell Trish was loving it too but chose to stay quiet hahaha. Love!
The problem with Tana is, she did the same with James Ch. or David D. and all of a sudden she was on pictures with them. She has no back bone imho. 🤷🏻♀️
I hope Gabbie is doing well too. I’m happy she seems to be staying off the internet and working on herself. I would love to see if she releases anymore songs in the future because some of them are pretty good.
I’ve never seen someone more bullied and shamed than Trisha has, which honestly makes me want to root for her even more.
Your sarcasm cracks me up! I watch your videos when I put my baby to bed , gives me a good laugh 😂
I swear EVERY TIME I open this app you’ve just posted something interesting… your timing is perfect 💅🏻✨
Omg - the more you reveal about what “ Voldemort (CB)” said about Trisha is absolutely heartbreaking, and the fact that she thought it was okay to be friends with her in person is beyond me. 😢
🫣 I was 20 when ETN came out, and I watch it once a year, I feel the chaos was what made it great. The moment Gabby and Tana died in the last season I lived for it. XD
The Joey graceffa shade 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Adam roasting Escape the Night is EVERYTHING.
As an abuse and trauma survivor myself, it did break my heart for Trish when she mentioned the shame and embarrassment over this. I am glad people are reinforcing to her that it was Colleen’s wrong-doing.
I can honestly say…I never have watched, “escape the night”. Sounds like I didn’t miss anything.
hope you’re healing well through everything adam, you deserve peace
As a mother who had to have a c section because i wasn't breaching. And than to loose my daughters 16 days after birth. F U Colleen for thinking your birth was better. A birth is a birth regardless!!!
I'm so very sorry for what you went through xxx
Your rant about escape the night was on point 😂
You look like you're thriving! Honestly glowing, and so you deserve
I’m here for Trisha’s growth as a woman and a mother. I think she’s on the right path!
Honestly I hope Colleen gets what’s coming for her along with everybody else
Honestly. Does Trisha deserve a refresh and comeback? Honestly.
She’s been thriving 😂
😂 I love everything you said about Escape The Night. Such a waste of time 😂 Honestly glad you were shit talking him. It sucks because I love his ex, Daniel, but how can I trust him with everybody he surrounds himself around??
Missed this section of the stream - thank you for uploading the vods so quickly 🎉
Without any words Colleen shows what kind of person she is by doing the podcast.
Proving everything she is.
I feel a sociopath.people with feelings,empathy don’t and couldn’t do that,knowing what you did to someone.she never thought it would come out.
It always does.
Liking the video now so I can come back when I have time to watch thru ❤️❤️
I love how when tana refers to Shane Dawson she’s like “Shane” but when she refers to Jake Paul she says “Jake Paul” but they were supposedly married
I too would love to see Adam react to escape the night 😂
Lmao Thankyou for addressing the mics being the same size. 😂
Wait okay I only ever saw escape the night recently as an adult and I LIKED IT but only cause it gave me the warm fuzzies to see all the old TH-camrs from my childhood 😅
People who are hated love it when other people are hated to take the crap off themselves
Tana hops on whatever trend or idea that is convinient for her. She is a constant problem and is in no position to speak on any issue because of her behavior. I appreciate anyone speaking out about Colleen, but i don't trust her as far as I can throw her.
Colleen pisses me off when she was bragging that she was able to give birth naturally but Trisha couldn’t that makes me so mad😡😡😡
Thank you for doing a recap. I didn't want to give her views.
I don't like Tana and she's super problematic but when she said "act your prehistoric age!" I spat my drink out!
That was iconic! 😂👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
I wouldn't really assume that Trisha right now is happy, sure, she can be but since we have no idea what's happening behind the scenes, just that based on the fact that she hit Moses and kinda fetishizes the shit out of him being Jewish, I'm not so confident saying that they're happy with each other. Just my 2 cents tho
Did y’all catch where they bragged about enjoying lying😂
Yes but it’s in a different context lmao I’ve done that too!😂
@@Binstabihbut is it tho when you have been caught lying in harmful ways 😊
So before this year I had no idea who Colleen, Josh, Johnny, or you were. Once the drama started is where I first started seeing you, I’ve been watching your videos for a while and just subscribed today. I LOVE seeing you in a position to enjoy this backlash towards Colleen. Instant fan of the petty. So glad to see Swoop covered this.
Not Colleen shaming Trisha for having a c-section when she herself had to have a premature c-section to save her twins. Ffs.
I don't think Tana will be repeating history. She has been a great friend to Jeff, and you can see how she treats Trisha the same. It's real, valuable, respectful, deep connection. I can see how genuinely Tana feels about Trish, and it's not even close to how shallow it was with Colleen.
Oh my god Adam, yay! I found your channel finally! I've watched the Swoop Docs and my ADHD brain never wanted to let me focus enough to find you the first time. Much love and support for you telling your story. Hope you're well.
PS I love the Jack and Sally!
you are so right about Joey Graceffa.. i think even Dustin Dailey has problems with him and Joey’s friend whose a drama channel
I feel for trish so so much in this. Any time i make a female friend, something happens where we are no longer friends. Like, just in my adult life, one tried to sleep with my boyfriend (and did) AND sleep with me/SA'd me, another i was so excited to find a friend to hula hoop with...she left our first real hang out to do hard drugs (?!) With some guy and eventually ran away from her trouble (?!) and got arrested (i really know how to pick them wtf) and in jail. And ofc there's several more. Most recent one she moved before i got a chance to hang out with her outside of work, thank god tbh. I have my lifelong female bff and my bestie whos also my husband and thats good enough now lmao.
Proud of you Adam
Now time to call out Trisha for her BS
Your insider knowledge is priceless. I'm so sorry you were treated so poorly.
Just wanted to say your Vlog out on the balcony yesterday really made me go outside and enjoy the night sky. Having a hard few mental days…❤ the scenery was nice.
Like many other people out there, I wouldn’t be here if not for an emergency C-section. Many others wouldn’t be here if not for scheduled c-sections. It saves lives. It’s gross to shame that.
That final clip is so good 😂😂
That last comment about the screening party was unhinged I love it 😂