as adults we have to take responsibility for choosing bad people, knowing they are bad people for us many times from the jump and despite the information we know about them already and even as it develops when it comes out more and more. we are in the wrong and that's ok and healthy to know. but ultimately we are in the wrong. trisha was in the wrong. not only personally but professionally - she runs a business and you have to vet the people you work with. i think when we are living in unhealed places we choose unhealed people. trish choose people who would hurt her and seemed catty and quite corrupt in how they had friendships. most of us regular folk just choose unhealthy people who struggle to communicate their issues with us and come to mature resolutions. trish was choosing people in the youtube sphere that really matched where she was at. people who would be outwardly destructive and keniving to others. and she seemed to have a tendency to hurt others and be keniving too. most people don't have the privilege of having public information about someone's tendencies and reputation and malicious actions- but trisha had this about colleen and still engaged with her. she didn't have to come out and call colleen out but she could have kept a distance. she had more than enough information to keep a distance and not done a podcast. you have a mature perspective adam. you are right. she is responsible for not making better decisions with abundantly public and clear information that should had made her take the decision to keep that distance. again she could had just kept her crappy behind the scenes friendship with colleen but said no to public collaborations because the information was clearly a red flag. she has to own that and that will allow her to heal and not repeat these behaviours. and it is ok to own that. it is healthy. trisha is feeling guilt and shame because of her own experience, choices and responsibility in all this. she had information but still enabled an abuser. she feels the reality of that. i would encourage you to not soothe people when they are admitting their challenges and associated feelings. not because they don't deserve soothing but because it's not your responsibility to validate these people - you did that for kody, johnny and do that for trisha. they all need mental health supports and they have their own network of individuals. you are not responsible to validate them and forgive them. it's something they have to process and then when they have unpacked everything they can come and you can offer something to you and then if you want to you can offer them something. but i think if i were to advise you anything - to protect your spirit. you have already done so much in terms of offering forgiveness and so i want you to know and internalize as best as you can that you have done enough and do not need to continue to validate and forgive these (older) adults.
That part, she did the damn thing, I feel bad for Trish blaming herself for being a SW, yes she is problematic but I can't help but sympathize with the fact that she was subjected to something outside the consent limit of the paywall and what the footage was used for, and I feel like she's really struggling to get help just because of the BS Colleen and Johnny put her through
I@@eewahnah I feel bad for Trisha, too. I don't know much about her other than she's a pretty polarizing figure - a video I watched about her long ago was pretty intense-but it seems like motherhood and therapy has done her good. I wish her the best, truly. Johnny is just so wrong here, in the wrong in all of it. He wasn't a victim at all and he actually victimized several people with his nonsense.
If you've watched other videos with swoop, she is incredibly racist. Very out in your face racist. She refuses to say she is biracial. She says she is a black woman and shits on white people all the time.
Fr. I had zero intention of watching the whole 4 hours, but I ended up watching whole thing because it was so engaging, compelling, and well-presented.
Unfortunately I think Trisha’s boundaries that she set up to protect her mental health meant she is purposefully ignorant to some important emerging topics. It’s not necessarily bad (in fact I think it’s what’s best for her) but it does mean her timeline will be different and some of her protective measures will silence or block the voices of others.
While I agree with you, this is only correct if Trish is definitely not lying about her involvement. She does have a history of being dishonest. However, given none of us can see into her head it’s reasonable as a spectator to just throw your hands up and say nobody knows. Additionally, Adams feelings are completely valid considering he’s the one Colleen groomed, who Trish did the podcast with. It’s a complicated situation and it’s fine for it to be that way.
If Colleen apologized to you about sending the Trisha photos, then she would have to acknowledge and apologize for everything else. Of course she’s not going to.
Documentaries consist of official, factual record or reports. That is why swoops videos are so well done. Shane talking about conspiracies is the exact opposite of the definition of documentary. Documentary… documented. Documented information.
yeah... iirc, "documentary" is a fusion of the words "documented (information)" and "commentary." It's like a highly informational video/series of officially, verifiably true, documented records of events; with commentary/a speaker. Conspiracy "documentaries" used to have a fusion word of "commentary" and "conspiracy," but no one really used it.. It was "commspiracy" I think?? It's weird how Shane's conspiracy-commentary series is seen as a "conspiracy docu-series" because _how can something be conspiracy AND be documented?_ the very point of "conspiracy" is that there's no/inaccessible documentation.
Shane trying to salvage his image as a multi-documented sex pest against children and animals is the other side of the moon from Swoop, an actual survivor of the things she’s talking about, putting in months and months of ethical investigative journalism and care for the well-being of survivors and victims at the forefront of her work. Shane wants people to think of his inhumane predations as drama, Spankie goes out of her way to assert the things she covers shouldn’t be considered internet drama when she mostly covers ethical crimes legalized or not.
@@ihavenodesiretocreateahandle in regards to documented conspiracies, it’s more that people extrapolate extra information from documented materials. Most conspiracy theories are pretty grim but if you want a comparatively chill example of people doing this stuff, look into The Beatles’ “John’s (Not) Dead” conspiracy.
I think it's very mature of Trisha and Adam to be able to agree with each other on most things but also disagree about other things and then maintaining those boundaries creates such a stark difference between them and Colleen. And as someone who's watched Trish for a very long time I'm proud of how much she's grown since back in the day. Old Trisha would never be able to respond so calmly
@@Sangonomiiya she kind of seems unclear on whether or not she’s committed to actually changing. Imo she shouldn’t be online especially with the disorders she has, i have some of the same shit she does, it’s part of why I don’t have a tiktok- like, I can’t handle it. I don’t want to make a platform out of my reactionary pain. I can’t make her get offline but I kind of think she’s not doing anything staying a pseudo influencer by putting herself in a state that’s just self harm.
@@Lucifersfursona at the end of the day it's her decision, but saying someone with a personality disorder shouldn't be online or shouldn't decide to work in an online space is giving ableism just saying
The only reason a person wouldn't see SWOOP's videos as documentaries is if they don't consider TH-cam a legitimate platform for content. SWOOP puts more work in preserving the truth in her videos than Netflix (and many cable channels) does in theirs.
eh, not the only reason. The film maker & institutions behind the crew are usually taken into consideration too. And "someone from the internet" (aka just anyone) doesn't fit the bill for most people. Her videos are nice, but still unpublished anywhere officially, so
@@timeforkuuchanIn a perfect world, yeah! Though I think subjects such as this require more sensitive care and personal touch than something like a nature film. Even then, in a lot of shows/videos I don’t think the face/narrator of them is seen to have very obvious bias. Like, think of a serial killer documentary, or a random Netflix documentary, or a documentary about some science phenomenon. I’d think there’s some level of bias in these, maybe not as obvious as Swoop’s but in her case, she offers real experience and genuine emotion. I’d like to say that in my thoughts, Swoop’s work could probably be in between both genres of “Documentary” and “Journalism.” Where moving parts blur the lines between fact-driven, investigative, and informative, all tied together with documentary style editing and personal experience from herself. Also to throw this out there, a TH-camr like Coffeezilla definitely would be more aligned with “Journalism” in my opinion. Someone like Mr. Snowflake on TH-cam with his content definitely seems more purely “Documentary.” I think Swoop is somewhere in the middle. Not that it super duper matters to me, but it is interesting to think about and try to categorize. I do appreciate the scale and effort Swoop puts in, and overall the semantics of what to label her production doesn’t affect me.
not true. I don't consider them documentaries because they're opinion pieces. usually documentaries consist of the producer seeking out experts to talk about the topic, Swoop just goes over it all herself. if she makes documentaries then Paige Christie makes documentaries. neither of them do, they're just high quality drama videos
The one about her teeth really got me-being so open about it, and showing other folks in the same boat a way to fix the issue until they can afford a more permanent one is beautiful.
Im going through one of the toughest points in my life rn, and seeing u make it through this with such grace has given me courage to keep going past this hard time. Thank u so much Adam Ive been watching you since before all this and seeing you grow and thrive past this has given me so much courage. I could rn lifes been tough but ur videos have helped me get through so much lately ❤
Same here. I'm a huge people pleaser and seeing Adam continue to speak the truth against old people who wants to silence him is reminding me I don't need to stay silent either. There is struggles yes but the truth is the truth.
I'm so sorry,sweetheart. I'm glad watching Adam gives u some reprieve from it. I hope things get easier for u soon! Try not to grab too many necks, haha!! Sending u lots of love ~From Nashville 💖
I just want to mention how much you’ve grown through all of this. It’s been difficult, and we don’t know how much harder it is alone, and yet you’ve managed to spin this into a more positive narrative for yourself. Idk. When I went through something, I let it consume me. I’m so proud that you pulled yourself up. It’s admirable from a similar perspective
Agreed, but I also just wanna give you credit where it's due because every individual heals at their own pace and (in my personal opinion) it's fine to leave certain people and events without forgiveness if it means you're able to find peace. One day, one hour & one minute at a time. I'm glad you're still here to tell your story.
I did too and still do sometimes. My husband always ask why I let that man hold so much power over me. And it's not that I let him hold power over me it's just a wound that cuts so deep and stitches rip open over and over and over and it never fucking goes away. And a lot of people who've never been through this don't understand that you don't have to do anything wrong to me. You can say something that that person used to say and it will trigger me. It doesn't have to be negative. It could just be the way you said it or the way you worded it. It is so hard to live a normal life after things like this happen and I'm proud of you for recognizing that you let it consume you a lot of people don't realize it and it becomes a bigger problem. It took me cutting off pretty much all of my friends and family to truly heal. I had to surround myself with one person who was really going to be there for me. My husband. And I still struggle everyday..
@@beccak1011 I understand this. If he is like my hubs, he wishes he could get his hands on the guy who hurt you so much. I have had to go back to therapy a few times to deal with things that resurface. And things can trigger you. You aren’t alone, and your husband may need to have a session with you so he can understand that it isn’t easy to not have it rise back up on you and cause issues. He wants you to be happy, and wants it now, and that is a normal human feeling. You and I want it now, too, but it just doesn’t happen like that. I hope you continue to heal, and love your life, sister.♥️✌️
One of the definitions of a documentary: using pictures or interviews with people involved in real events to provide a factual report on a particular subject. Swoop is definitely doing a documentary series.
yea people just dont wanna admit it because they dont see youtubers as professional, SOME are lol. if they watched a swoop doc or two they would get it
This is my take, I could be wrong but hear me out: when something like this comes up, everybody has a way that they initially react. Hers was to be hesitant and not immediately abandon her friend. And it makes total sense that she did not initially understand the severity or the details of what the heck everyone was talking about. Nobody did at first. I sure as heck didn't. And that doesn't mean she didn't care that means she's a normal human with her own life in which she knew jack shit about you or what Coleen did at first. And then didn't believe it. And then within a matter of days, realized. Which is a very quick period of to time realize something so shocking and unexpected. There was a period of denial which is very normal when a grief filled reality like this is thrown upon you and you loose a friend who turns out to have been evil all along. You think she didn't care like Coleen or Johnny, no, she just didn't understand initially! You're traumatized from dealing with manipulators like Coleen and Johnny in your youth, which is the whole reason why what they did is evil in the first place. What Trisha says makes perfect sense. It's a perfectly understandable reaction.
I completely agree. I was a fan of Colleen and it took me a week or 2 after Colleen went silent to even watch Adam’s video because I thought it was just drama and cancel culture kind of stuff. I can only imagine being on TH-cam as long as Trisha has and having to set her own boundaries with these kinds of situations- what to ignore and what to be informed about.
I have the same condition as Trisha. A big symptom is getting attached to people and to put them on a pedestal. It takes a lot for someone external to shift that. I also think it’s possible she thought kodee was just scorned and making shit up to get back at Colleen, and that’s what they thought people in chat were referring to. Without the following videos from Adam, kodee’s video is questionable. Could Trisha have handled it better? Sure. But considering her past behavior and BPD, she handled this extraordinarily well. (Note: that doesn’t excuse things she has done, just adds context)
@@skyamethyst8506 yes. That’s exactly right as well. I’m not diagnosed but I’ve had struggles with some symptoms of that disorder. And like Trisha said, when you struggle with this disorder, you need to hold yourself back from reacting immediately anyway.
I just hope everyone involved is able to heal and receive closure. This is an awful scenario through and through. Sick people deserve accountability for their actions for sure, and there is value to me when people are willing to have personal growth and make their wrongs right. For those that refuse to see their wrongdoings and accept them, then work towards that growth, I feel true pity for. That just sounds like a miserable and exhausting existence, totally unfulfilling and void of the good that humanity has to offer. I think most people can change, but not everyone does.
I think it’s possible Trisha just didn’t want to see it. It’s an aspect of Betrayal Blindness where you don’t let yourself see something because it’s too hard to fully see and accept it. So you tell yourself some other explanation or you ignore it completely. Some people doing that even get MAD at people telling them the truth if they’re too much in denial (it’s a really awful part about abuse and mistreatment)
Solely wanting an apology is so so so valid. I had also just wanted an apology. I literally told my school through my lawyer (where my SA happened) that I would never bring it up again if I just got an apology. But they wanted to buy my silence instead. I would've signed a contract saying I wouldn't speak if I could just get that acknowledgement of how much I went through and how they messed up (they gaslight and blamed me for three years). When will people realize that an apology, especially a meaningful apology, goes a long way?
Your 100% correct, I am reminded of how I almost got an honest apology from my abuser that was immediately ruined when they said "I didn't think it was a big deal because you were so young and wouldn't remember". Which as an adult I now realize ot was never going to be honest, they were only doing so to save face after being outed.
Because unfortunately people’s egos are so big that they consider being the person in the wrong, worse than the emotions of another person…. Basic empathy. It’s extremely sad and a serious crutch in our society. People are too afraid to apologise because by doing so, admits fault.
As a cam girl I really appreciate you agreeing with the stigma and the way sw are treated! I didn’t initially realize how johnny always mentioned sw and was condescending every time. Sometimes if feels like everyone has a negative opinion of us which I can understand, but I was prepared for you to share the same opinion on that and was so glad to hear you agree with Trish about it!
I like sex workers and think they are strong and am glad they're making money off pathetic losers (the cheaters and single ass incels) but at the same time I find the people who go to them pathetic I feel like they are extremely contradictory takes I've always wanted to ask a sex worker what they thing about this id appreciate your thoughts although if you don't want to respond that's perfectly fine I hope you live a happy life and get rich from all work you do ❤️
As someone who struggles with PTSD and has a lot of trauma that lead to me spiraling and having severe emotiona reactions I understand and appreciate that Trisha didn't act right away but stepped back, assessed, processed and went through the emotions before articulating herself on the situation. In fact my therapist taught me how to do that in order to even be able to communicate on serious matters. I don't think she would do you the case any favors had she articulated herself purely out of chaotic unsorted emotions without any logic or comprehension on the matter. It would be messy and a spectacle for all the wrong reason and it would be a "trisha freakshow" which would take away from the seriousness of the matter. She went on as normal while processing her thoughts and feelings, getting all the facts before reacting; i think it's honorable.
I'll be completely honest, I feel as though due to trisha's trauma and her past with grooming, I feel as though Moses most likely didn't want her to get triggered by messages. And from my own personal problems it's hard when you've gone through something traumatic and then find out someone else has gone through the same thing or even worse
yeah that’s probably what it is. But I also wished she had like a manager or assistant that could go online and be up to date for her. And maybe they can pull her aside and say hey your friend’s shady.
Yeah, I have BPD and I have asked my husband to monitor my social media before when I put out public articles, blog posts, TikToks etc. It's too easy to get triggered. I can personally believe Moses deleted it not knowing the context.
What grooming history? Her stories about her teachers? Cause that’s been shown to be untrue. It has the same, if not even worse, inconsistencies like Johnny. Trisha and Johnny are scarily similar with how they hear real victim’s stories and then copy it and say they went through that same thing to garner attention and sympathy
@@soychorizo496 respectfully do you know where I can find evidence on that as I'd rather not just take your word on it(not saying I don't believe u but I don't want to be seen as me going against an alleged victim 🫶🏻)
If I had a friend who was a sex worker, I would not be logging on to have a wee peek at her work. That seems like a very obvious boundary to me! The whole thing is extremely weird at every level. Colleen Ballinger doesn't seem to have any idea what boundaries are.
I know this isn't what all is this is about, but i am SO PROUD of Swoop putting in all the work and getting all of this recognition! I know she's had a really rough go on TH-cam for a very very long time and gotten screwed over. I'm happy to see her finally get the recognition she deserves.
Honestly i don't think she is lying or moses hid stuff. I think what she is trying to say is that the reason she was banning people was because she thought "oh it's just this hate mob" and didn't look up what they meant etc
Swoop is THOROUGH and very intelligent. She is fair and compassionate. She carries herself with respect and treats others with kindness ❤ I can't say enough good things about her.
Trisha still needs to be held accountable for ignoring this until she was affected. I don’t blame you for not letting this go Adam. I feel bad for Trisha for how Colleen treated her but she is very good at feigning ignorance. She’s doing the same now with Josh pretending like we didn’t watch her a few years ago bullying him on an engagement ring of all things due to colleen’s influence.
“If I speak confidently about something, it doesn’t mean I’m not affected.” THIS. I could be shaking in my boots but if I don’t put up a confident front, no one listens
The lying and denying and backtracking people do around this kind of predatory abuse always astounds me. It's possibly cognitive dissonance but the effect is gaslighting and you have every right to call this subterfuge out.
@@LoulitaParlitashe really is! Trisha is no better than Colleen and he past behaviour and videos show that.. I don’t know why people are shocked by her bs and lack of accountability now 😅
Has everyone forgotten the minor kid shane and trisha were hanging with and were both being so inappropriate. Had everyone just forgotten shes not some advocate for minors since the beginning.....
Adam, Trisha said "… I STILL HAVEN’T BLOCKED - There’s a reason him and I don’t communicate" She wanted to clarify you’re not blocked, she just doesn’t really want to be in regular contact with people who react and comment about her life and family.
I mean for collabs? Adam is not only a drama channel, they both were directly impacted by the same person. Apart from communication issues online they would 100% get down on this topic and a collab would get insane views, maybe even getting her podcast way morde serious and popular @@asmrtpop2676
Trisha would still be friends with her and would still be supporting her if this never came out. She only cares that she was backstabbed. She couldn't care less about any of the victims
Honestly I'm not convinced that Trisha knew... Her husband may well have blocked those people because he didn't want his wife to get dragged into what he may have seen as "TH-cam drama". It wasn't the right move, clearly. But it doesn't necessarily mean she told him to censor this event specifically.
You have truly acted like the most “adult” or mature person in this situation and I hope you know how admirable that is considering how young you were during all of this ! you and swoop are goi g to killllll this topic every time
I think it’s weird Trisha says things like I made friends with these drama in the channels in the past and then they were mean to me…🙄 saying one came to her home and then painted her to be a monster later - that’s Peter Monn, and no he didn’t do that. Yes he was nice to her, and also yes he called her out when SHE did bad things and needed to be called out. I am sorry about what Colleen and Johnny did to her. But that and many other things she brought up in this just reminded me why I don’t like her overall.
Ok. I have a bit of a problem with what she says about her stance on adults and minors. I remember back in the day a video Shane Dawson posted of him Trisha and Trevi Moran when she was SIXTEEN and Trisha and Shane were encouraging her to TWERK for them and having very inappropriate conversations with her. Like. Does anyone else remember that? I fully believe in growth and changing behaviors and beliefs but she doesn’t own up to her past with stuff like this. Unless I’ve missed something😅
@@ACasperrrthat’s fair but she’s literally out here trying to rewrite her past and gaslight people into thinking she’s a better person than she is, instead of owning up for her own mistakes. It’s the same with Colleen, if she comes back in a year or two without taking accountability, addressing and apologizing for what she did, and instead just ignoring it and rewriting her history, would you say the same?
This disagreement between Adam and Trisha is beyond annoying at this point. I would really like Adam to reflect on the dissonance between how he has said himself "she never had to talk about it if she didnt want to" since in this situation she was violated, and also a victim who should not have felt pressured to have to say anything & the idea that she did something wrong here in taking her time to react, gather her information, process, think through how to end it with colleen, decide if she was going to say anything. How can you be mad at her for not processing it immediately and yet also believe she never had to say anything at all. Say what you want about her but she did NOTHING and I mean not a single thing wrong in this situation. I mean for god sakes wasnt Adam allowed to change his mind on Cody Tyler? Have one opinion and then change it after thinking about it and having others bring up points as to why Cody shouldnt be forgiven so easily? Adam made a video with Cody as well...and he was more in the know about this sitation than Trisha could ever be since Adam has been inside this for actual years. I don't blame Adam for having his feelings, he cant help it, but stop airing out the same opinion about another victim and your judgement of the time it took to process. Adams been processing this for years at this point and Im sure opening it up again isnt easy but to Trisha...this JUST happened. And enough of the people "she hasnt changed" in this situation why is that relevant at all???? Lets say shes an absolute monster. And? Does that then mean she has the magic powers to come to terms with her friend doing this to her immediately? Nah. This is a traumatic mindblowing thing to happen to a person.
The “she hasn’t changed thing” is relevant because people seem to forget what a “monster” she’s been in the past, that’s why people say she hasn’t changed. They’re reminding y’all and your selective memories 😅. Because during this all of a sudden she’s a martyr . Yeah she’s a victim and it sucks, but It does matter because her reactions on things are influenced by who she is, and she is the same Trisha she’s always been. 😅I get what you’re saying that she’s still processing things probably, but the deflecting isn’t something new with her, it’s not shocking and it’s like what did you expect from her? That’s where I’m at anyway. And I’m just saying, people are coming from a place of frustration with this person.
Thank you for all of your coverage on these things, your reactions and wit and jokes are everything! So glad you can come through this and keep your head high, I’m so proud from afar 😅 keep doing what you do 💚💚
I also think Trish’s diagnosis makes that internalising and self blame hard to overcome; which again I think Colleen can play into that to relieve the crushing weight of her ego
I highly doubt her “diagnosis” is even real. She’s has claimed to have so many diagnosis over the year that time has revealed truth on and this will too. Im saying it, I straight up don’t believe she has a personality disorder.
Trisha might genuinely not have read them BUT its fully intentional. Trisha said she ignored Shane's allegations for like a year on purpose to keep the friendship
You are right to be bothered by someone platforming someone that is so awful. That said, I think you need to give her grace on filming the unposted podcast. No one wants to believe their friend, & new business partner, has been degrading them. It takes time to process the truth, & even then you don't want to believe you allowed someone so horrible into your world/home. She has done plenty of shameful things & didn't want to turn her back on someone she believed may be wrongfully being cancelled for their past. What Trish did right, was not actually airing the last podcast. She could make a lot of money, & she is standing firm on not being connected with her. Her husband believes it is his job to protect Trish's mental health. That is not good for her finding out things about important things in a timely manner, but it may be best for her little family.
Trish has been inappropriate with minors, including with Shane, so while she is a victim I do not care to give her views (money). Nor do I consider her changed or forgiven. Also Adam I don’t think you renting in another country is the same as Trish LOL
@@dem0litionsssUnfortunately, it happened, so I am not going to pretend it didn’t when it is relevant to Trish. I didn’t even bring her name into it though, but you did. :/
@@asmrtpop2676 yes but we know who you’re talking about and trevi has stated publicly on multiple occasions that she does NOT like people bringing it up again when she’s forgiven trisha for it years and years ago
I think because of Trishas personality disorder, Moses truly just deletes anything he thinks would/could trigger her. Especially with them trying to conceive again. I don't think she's necessarily lying, I think he was just trying to protect her because she is highly emotional due to her disorder. I don't think it was done with malicious intent. I truly just think Moses was trying to protect Trisha. Did it backfire? Absolutely. He should have done the research himself and then spoken with her about the severity of the situation, etc. and pushed for cutting the podcast MUCHHHH sooner. Your feelings about how it was handled on Moses' end and Trisha's end are still valid whether their intent was malicious or not.
Moses is an (alleged) rapist. He doesn’t care about victims and neither does Trisha because she called his victims liars and bullied them into silence and then married Moses
I don't buy that Trisha didn't know, I would buy that she ignored it because she didn't want to believe it and prioritized the friendship, I could be wrong but my impression is that she is somebody who is a bit insecure socially and wants friends but struggles to keep them, so I can understand not wanting to believe it. People being in denial about their friends/family/loved ones is not exactly uncommon, some people even stay in denial despite evidence, people like to believe what benefits themselves and their own feelings, that goes for any topic really.
If Trisha felt any kind of guilt or shame it shouldn’t be bc her n*des were shared privately between dumb, disgusting, horrible people. It should be bc she’s done some gross things to people she was trolling online like Ethan and Hila! She shared herself pleasuring herself while staring at their pics, that’s something she should feel gross or guilty about. Idk why so many don’t call her out for stuff she should be called out for.. it’s forgive and forget and feel sorry for her all bc she’s currently trying to be this saint online. She has so much to be held accountable for but no one does.
You’re so right about the term “documentary” with regards to Swoop imo. Her format is more TH-cam video structured but she includes a ton of primary information (interviews, messages, direct statements) that make it more on the level of doc than most videos that call themselves “documentaries” tend to do. A long video does not a documentary make. It’s about research’s structure and information imo
Trisha could've saved herself a lot of time by saying "you know what, I didn't believe it, I assumed it was people stirring up hate and wanted to show support for someone who i thought was my friend being targeted, and then when it got too big for me to ignore I realized I had fucked up"
@@SLTheOneAndAwesome19 literally she said this exact shit before. Her going back on that is very concerning. That first story makes sense for who she is and what she’s lived through. That she just didn’t give a shit because she put trust over on the adult friends that’re child predators. People want to say she’s changed and sure, people can change, but her walking this back to make herself look better is tbh? Gross.
@punkyjewster2350 She didn't walk this back? She said basically the same thing every time. She never said "I didn't give a shit" because she does give a shit and has given a shit ever since she found out a) the whole context and b) that it was all true.
TRISHA LIED ABOUT NOT KNOWING ABOUT YOUR FIRST VIDEO ON COLLEEN!! she mentioned it on frenemies! Ok benefit of the doubt, maaaaaybe she forgot but its really convenient how suddenly everything related to colleen is forgotten by her lmao. Youre totally right, if she owned it, at least shes being truly honest. If not then...selective amnesia ig
Yep, Trish being Trish again. And I should be pissed. She has a platform that can really really help people, but she wants to avoid being “uncomfortable.” And if people around her are protecting and editing everything for her, then they are hurting her too. Either way, she needs to deal with it now. But I don’t expect that from her. She’s just doing what’s expected now. Dang it. I thought she’d turn a corner. Maybe next time she well. Maybe she will fix this.
The only thing needs to apologize about anything is to all the communities she offended for making fun of in the past and for everyone she hurt in the past she’s never addressed. If she did. She would end up more followers a to and not so many people still so angry at her.
It's wrong that Moses was hiding it from trish but you have to understand that's her husband who knows her triggers and what makes her spiral. It wasnt right but I think his intentions were good, he was trying to protect her, counter productive or not.
Adam just wants people to be ‘TRUTHFUL!’ Don’t think that is too much to ask, at end of day the TRUTH reigns! When Adam sat and bared his soul, the good, bad n ugly…this is why as a 20yr old, Adam is MORE MATURE than most people I know 👏🏻 Adam, hopefully one day this will all pass and you get validated, even if these people can’t, rest assured, you will power through a long, honest and peaceful life. 😚 We can see, through your story, also what Swoop unfolds, it’s not that phrase that is bantered about ‘My Truth’ BUT rather ‘THE TRUTH’ 💖
I think we can all agree that Trisha has done some shady/shitty things in the past. But she has approached this whole situation with such grace, poise, and sincerity; you can really tell how since becoming a mother she has changed. My heart goes out to not only all of the victims, but also to Trisha, Because she should not feel guilty. This wasn’t her fault. ❤
Did you not watch the whole video? Also, she does not feel guilty. You are being manipulated by her still. Wise up. She says whatever she needs to to get sympathy and attention. When will people stop being manipulated by this woman.
@isabella2513 i absolutely agree. i feel like a lot of it has to do with her blocking folks who make negative videos on her too. i can’t imagine how painful that would be.
@@BodTheGrinch🎯🎯 And correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't she say in the first video that she made about Colleen that she was NEVER going to speak about it again?🙄 Of course she's not going to stop, she's desperte for views because her videos suck.
@@livyykitty Doesn't matter, she needs to stfu and just move it along , but she's not because her views tanked so she's giving this shit WAY more attention than she needs to, and also because she's an attention whore.
@@LoulitaParlitaTrisha is a human so it’s not far fetched that she could have different emotional reactions un to you. But we all know Malibu makes her heaps of money so she doesn’t need to use this situation. Babygram is huge 😂
Trisha previously defended Shane Dawson , even though she knew about his repulsive acts with minors, because he was her friend. I can't believe she didn't know what Colleen did
I'm not even a minute in, and yes! Swoop docs are for sure considered documentaries! She puts so much time and effort into these videos.. and considers herself a documentary maker. (Producer, director? Both?) As do we!
19:16 oh Adam. My mom heart broke seeing your face here. I wish I could give you a big hug right now. I CANNOT stand Trish. At all. And I thought this video would endear me to her….it didn’t.
@@RACHELLEfloit is about her. she’s a massive victim in this story. her friend committed a CRIME using her photos, she has every right to speak about it
I loved Swoop's documentary and I hope part 4 comes soon. But having a burn out, Trish is just a waterfall of words... I feel sorry for her what happened with Colleen, but a little bit of structure of what you want to say....39 minutes in and still nothing about Johnny (only in the beginning a little bit)
Right? At least a loose script or outline if you're a person who tends to be all over the place and go on tangents pretty easily would make a world of difference. She was just a bunch of words that didn't even get to the core of what the title of her video was even about. She just talked alot and side stepped some things by just talking alot. Simply talking alot is kind of alot of nothing. Even saying something about her menstrual cycle...I'm not a prude but t had nothing to do with nothing. But yea, at least a loose outline to get to the meat of the matter and stay on track. This is why I'm glad that Adam and other creators react to it bc theres no way I'd be able to listen to it otherwise.
I just wanna point out that they can't say it's automod either because conveniently the one saying "adam's story came out years ago why does it matter now" didn't get deleted!
This is why I will never trust Trisha. Even in her redemption eras, she lies through her teeth to backtrack and paint herself in a better light. Her word means nothing to me. I also find it so interesting that Trisha was apparently blind to Colleen’s bad character even though Shane was veryyy much aware of how Colleen is and Shane and Trish were so tight knit for so many years. You really mean to tell me Shane never shit talked about Colleen to Trisha???
Like I don’t think Trisha is lying here, I think that she has a system to temper her reactions. Unfortunately that means that she was ignorant of that and that’s irresponsible but when you consider her history of responding to drama, I think it’s a good thing if someone is monitoring what she’s exposed to
@@kristiekane4963 Lol gonna be honest here I don’t watch her at all, just passively enjoy drama content. I just am someone who has CPSTD so i felt what she was saying about managing triggers, I could be totally wrong just wanted to be devils advocate 🤷🏻♀️
@@kristiekane4963I don't understand how she keeps fooling people .. SHE is even worse than before with her jump in views and attention. She will blow it all up as usual, then when the smoke settles, She will latch on to a NEW audience who knows nothing about her( mainly children) .. Then Rinse and Repeat.
And if what she said is true, she should be having someone in her life watch the videos you made and decide whether or not to tell her…maybe someone not Moses
As someone who suffers from CPTSD I dont think what Trisha did was give excuses, because its not like she has done anything wrong in this case. I think she is explaining herself as best as she can, that she is very easily triggered as she said, and the internet does not like her very much (to put it mildly.) I totally understand Adam feeling like this is another case of people not listening to him and ignoring his pain but with Trisha I feel like she is avoiding triggers for the same reasons that those images of her naked were sent back and forth to mock her - the internet is ruthless to her. I dont think its fair to go so hard on her seeing as she was just trying to protect her own mental health AND she isn't the one who harmed Adam, Becky, etc. She is a victim too and shes not responsible for anyone else in this, she is talking about it and keeping the conversation open so its not just hidden away but apart from that I dont think its fair to put so much responsibility on her.
The amount of Swoops dedication to the facts was so spectacular, it’s truly amazing how well her and her team pieced this whole thing together. It was so well done, thorough, and came full circle.
People really think Moses is censoring the entire internet for Trisha? I think it's way more likely that she's lying. That's the one thing she has been doing consistently throughout her career
There is a HUGE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN working with children in a teaching/mentoring context or being close to a child that you are related to, and being in private chats with underaged fans and/or interracting with children in a way that makes then uncomfortable. For example: I was really close to my older cousins growing up (8-13years older than me) they would babysit or sometimes one of my older female cousins would take me out for lunch or shopping or they would have me over for girls night sleepovers, and I cannot stress enough how fondly I remember those memories, and how appropriate and fun they were. Growing up I was also sexualized/fetishized by many of my teachers and peers because i developed early. The difference is that those people made me uncomfortable, they did not have my best interests in mind, I did not consent to the things that were said and done to me by the adults in my life that chose to fetishize a child, I never had a choice. Trustworthy adults will do things to accommodate to do things within a child’s comfort level, and always give them an indefinite out. If I asked one of my cousins to take me home because i wasn’t having fun or didn’t feel well in any way, zero questions asked, and never held it over my head. They understood that I looked up to them and loved them because they were my family so they tailored the activities we did to my tastes, they did not talk about stuff that was inappropriate for my age in my presence. It is about consent from the parents, comfort of the child, and giving the child choices including the choice to leave. Lots of adults have relationships with children that are completely appropriate, lots of children have the phone numbers of adults that make them feel safe and comfortable on their terms. Grooming is sinister, it is calculated.
Every time Trisha speaks about adamantly opposing adults hanging out with minors throughout her career I’m reminded of the video with her, Shane and Trevi Moran 😞
Usually I totally agree with you, however, due to Trisha’s past regarding the grooming issues that she endured I think Moses was just trying to protect her from being triggered. I know that you think that it’s a lot deeper and who knows it could be but I just see that Moses was trying to keep her from the pain.
I agree, honestly I think Adam was a bit too harsh to Trish in this video but I do 100% understand his frustration about this. But what I don’t think he understands is that Colleen and Trisha have known each other for over ten years and she was someone Trisha considered a friend. So when you’re getting spammed with all these serious allegations about your friend you’re obviously going to ask and trust the word of your friend over a complete stranger on the internet and multiple spams of people hounding you to give a statement and denounce your friend. I’m not trying to justify what Trish has done or minimize Adam’s feelings at all, I just don’t think he’s seeing the situation from her side. Plus she’s the ONLY ONE out of all of Colleen’s friends who have spoken out against her and stood by the victims. That’s just my opinion, I do support the victims 100% I just don’t think it’s as cut and dry as Adam thinks it should be.
@@logandevereux5076 he did. And it's irresponsible to just shrug off the accusations, just because you don't agree with his point, doesn't mean he doesn't see her side.
The person you're thinking of that she ghosted was Nikocado Avocado. But she also was friendly with Sanders Kennedy (og OG drama channel) and then Peter Monn. She referred to both/ all of them between this video and the Convo with Dr drew.
cannot keep up with these uploads. i was literally at a silent disco when this was uploaded and still had to watch the second half of the h3 johnny slideshow reaction this morning before watching this
There’s video of her talking about Haters Back off when it was on the air. She watched every episode and loved the stuff about the uncle the most. She said that it’s also great for kids. Now she says she never knew anything about Miranda. She knows everything that goes on in internet world. If her lips are moving, she’s lying. She lies for no reason. Never forget that. Moses was sitting next to Trisha during the premier. It wasn’t live. She knew. Rewriting of history is her specialty.
Adam isn't capable of "letting" or "not letting" her rewrite history. He has no idea when she knew what or when she processed what. And neither do any of us. Can we just leave her alone? Of all the things to come at her for, this really isn't it. She was a victim of this situation and is allowed to take the time she needed to figure it out and process. It's so sad to me how people's previous "image" can effect unrelated situations. Like Colleen's squeaky clean image allowed her to get away with this in 2020. And now Trisha's horrendous image is allowing people to continue to judge and drag her in a situation she did nothing wrong in. If it was Onision in 2020 who did this to Adam, everyone would have believed it immediately. If it had been Jenna Marbles who "took too long to process" as a victim in this situation everyone would be understanding. I wish we could just look at things a little less biased as a whole.
@@baileylushinawell, putting Colleen making fun of her and sending her nudes aside, Adam spoke about how inappropriate Colleen was with him 3 years ago. She KNEW Colleen hurt at least one minor but that wasn’t enough for her to distance herself, not until colleen hurt her personally.
@Flapjack58 Most of the internet didn't believe him 3 years ago, if they even watched the video. Colleen lied to everyone and almost everyone including most commenters believed her. So if people who don't know Colleen personally were so easily manipulated by her, you think people she knew in real life were capable of seeing through her bs easier?
Yes to the documentary topic. Swoop does research and interviews. Shane gives stream of conscience and "look how much fun it is to hang with drama llamas" to rehab reps.
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as adults we have to take responsibility for choosing bad people, knowing they are bad people for us many times from the jump and despite the information we know about them already and even as it develops when it comes out more and more. we are in the wrong and that's ok and healthy to know. but ultimately we are in the wrong. trisha was in the wrong. not only personally but professionally - she runs a business and you have to vet the people you work with. i think when we are living in unhealed places we choose unhealed people. trish choose people who would hurt her and seemed catty and quite corrupt in how they had friendships. most of us regular folk just choose unhealthy people who struggle to communicate their issues with us and come to mature resolutions. trish was choosing people in the youtube sphere that really matched where she was at. people who would be outwardly destructive and keniving to others. and she seemed to have a tendency to hurt others and be keniving too. most people don't have the privilege of having public information about someone's tendencies and reputation and malicious actions- but trisha had this about colleen and still engaged with her. she didn't have to come out and call colleen out but she could have kept a distance. she had more than enough information to keep a distance and not done a podcast.
you have a mature perspective adam. you are right. she is responsible for not making better decisions with abundantly public and clear information that should had made her take the decision to keep that distance. again she could had just kept her crappy behind the scenes friendship with colleen but said no to public collaborations because the information was clearly a red flag. she has to own that and that will allow her to heal and not repeat these behaviours. and it is ok to own that. it is healthy.
trisha is feeling guilt and shame because of her own experience, choices and responsibility in all this. she had information but still enabled an abuser. she feels the reality of that. i would encourage you to not soothe people when they are admitting their challenges and associated feelings. not because they don't deserve soothing but because it's not your responsibility to validate these people - you did that for kody, johnny and do that for trisha. they all need mental health supports and they have their own network of individuals. you are not responsible to validate them and forgive them. it's something they have to process and then when they have unpacked everything they can come and you can offer something to you and then if you want to you can offer them something. but i think if i were to advise you anything - to protect your spirit. you have already done so much in terms of offering forgiveness and so i want you to know and internalize as best as you can that you have done enough and do not need to continue to validate and forgive these (older) adults.
Stop reacting to her videos, your reactions the same. Boring.
Adam, I just had to say how much I love your floral print sweater! ❤🩷💕🌹🌷
CANCEL TRISHA AND SHANE
CANCEL TRISHA AND SHANE
Swoop's production value and polish cannot be overstated. She and everyone else can refer to them as documentaries because they truly are.
That part, she did the damn thing, I feel bad for Trish blaming herself for being a SW, yes she is problematic but I can't help but sympathize with the fact that she was subjected to something outside the consent limit of the paywall and what the footage was used for, and I feel like she's really struggling to get help just because of the BS Colleen and Johnny put her through
And if it weren't for Swoop we would not know that and probably Trisha would have not spiralled this much over irresponsible and malevolent people
That is not a documentary. TP is not brave. She is mentally ill. And greedy. Clearly.
I@@eewahnah I feel bad for Trisha, too. I don't know much about her other than she's a pretty polarizing figure - a video I watched about her long ago was pretty intense-but it seems like motherhood and therapy has done her good. I wish her the best, truly.
Johnny is just so wrong here, in the wrong in all of it. He wasn't a victim at all and he actually victimized several people with his nonsense.
If you've watched other videos with swoop, she is incredibly racist. Very out in your face racist.
She refuses to say she is biracial. She says she is a black woman and shits on white people all the time.
Swoop definitely posts documentaries. The amount of research and work that goes into her presentation is mind blowing. Her team is fire!
Fr. I had zero intention of watching the whole 4 hours, but I ended up watching whole thing because it was so engaging, compelling, and well-presented.
@@jplouthelgm5156 My wife asked if it was worth watching and I was like "it just...keeps...getting...worse!" (the scandal, not the video of course)
Yeah, she is so smart and does great works, she deserves all the awards
A JOURNALIST and a PROFESSIONAL through and through 💯
YEA I ALWAYS GO IN EXPECTING A NORMAL VIDEO ESSAY AND ITS SO INFORMATIONAL /POS
Unfortunately I think Trisha’s boundaries that she set up to protect her mental health meant she is purposefully ignorant to some important emerging topics. It’s not necessarily bad (in fact I think it’s what’s best for her) but it does mean her timeline will be different and some of her protective measures will silence or block the voices of others.
Exactly..that's what I think too..she keep saying she has mental health issue..i do understand where she coming from..
I only believe her because Oscar keeps educating Trisha about any popular celebrity/actor 😭
While I agree with you, this is only correct if Trish is definitely not lying about her involvement. She does have a history of being dishonest. However, given none of us can see into her head it’s reasonable as a spectator to just throw your hands up and say nobody knows. Additionally, Adams feelings are completely valid considering he’s the one Colleen groomed, who Trish did the podcast with. It’s a complicated situation and it’s fine for it to be that way.
Exactly
@@ThegbearYa there’s no reason to give Trish the time of day with how much she has lied.
If Colleen apologized to you about sending the Trisha photos, then she would have to acknowledge and apologize for everything else. Of course she’s not going to.
Also, she'd be admitting to a crime.
And also he's own mother the lady that gave birth to him said never speak my sons name again so she's honouring his mother why can't people get that
Not that. If she did, she acknowledge she sent photos to minor which is a crime. Why would she ever do that?
@@mariannelawson4166what are you fighting so hard for right now 💀
@@mariannelawson4166ew why r u defending her so hard
Documentaries consist of official, factual record or reports. That is why swoops videos are so well done. Shane talking about conspiracies is the exact opposite of the definition of documentary. Documentary… documented. Documented information.
yeah... iirc, "documentary" is a fusion of the words "documented (information)" and "commentary." It's like a highly informational video/series of officially, verifiably true, documented records of events; with commentary/a speaker.
Conspiracy "documentaries" used to have a fusion word of "commentary" and "conspiracy," but no one really used it.. It was "commspiracy" I think?? It's weird how Shane's conspiracy-commentary series is seen as a "conspiracy docu-series" because _how can something be conspiracy AND be documented?_ the very point of "conspiracy" is that there's no/inaccessible documentation.
Shane trying to salvage his image as a multi-documented sex pest against children and animals is the other side of the moon from Swoop, an actual survivor of the things she’s talking about, putting in months and months of ethical investigative journalism and care for the well-being of survivors and victims at the forefront of her work.
Shane wants people to think of his inhumane predations as drama, Spankie goes out of her way to assert the things she covers shouldn’t be considered internet drama when she mostly covers ethical crimes legalized or not.
@@ihavenodesiretocreateahandle in regards to documented conspiracies, it’s more that people extrapolate extra information from documented materials. Most conspiracy theories are pretty grim but if you want a comparatively chill example of people doing this stuff, look into The Beatles’ “John’s (Not) Dead” conspiracy.
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CANCEL TRISHA AND SHANE
I think it's very mature of Trisha and Adam to be able to agree with each other on most things but also disagree about other things and then maintaining those boundaries creates such a stark difference between them and Colleen. And as someone who's watched Trish for a very long time I'm proud of how much she's grown since back in the day. Old Trisha would never be able to respond so calmly
She’s still old Trisha.
@@lindseyrichardson6429no, she’s definitely changed.
@@Sangonomiiya she kind of seems unclear on whether or not she’s committed to actually changing. Imo she shouldn’t be online especially with the disorders she has, i have some of the same shit she does, it’s part of why I don’t have a tiktok- like, I can’t handle it. I don’t want to make a platform out of my reactionary pain.
I can’t make her get offline but I kind of think she’s not doing anything staying a pseudo influencer by putting herself in a state that’s just self harm.
@@Sangonomiiya😂😂
@@Lucifersfursona at the end of the day it's her decision, but saying someone with a personality disorder shouldn't be online or shouldn't decide to work in an online space is giving ableism just saying
Swoop really went silent for almost a month with her team to research every single word is said to her. It's 100% Documentary material
The only reason a person wouldn't see SWOOP's videos as documentaries is if they don't consider TH-cam a legitimate platform for content. SWOOP puts more work in preserving the truth in her videos than Netflix (and many cable channels) does in theirs.
this
eh, not the only reason. The film maker & institutions behind the crew are usually taken into consideration too. And "someone from the internet" (aka just anyone) doesn't fit the bill for most people. Her videos are nice, but still unpublished anywhere officially, so
i love swoop but documentaries don't usually have personal opinions from the narrator. i love hearing what she says but usually narrators are unbiased
@@timeforkuuchanIn a perfect world, yeah!
Though I think subjects such as this require more sensitive care and personal touch than something like a nature film. Even then, in a lot of shows/videos I don’t think the face/narrator of them is seen to have very obvious bias. Like, think of a serial killer documentary, or a random Netflix documentary, or a documentary about some science phenomenon. I’d think there’s some level of bias in these, maybe not as obvious as Swoop’s but in her case, she offers real experience and genuine emotion.
I’d like to say that in my thoughts, Swoop’s work could probably be in between both genres of “Documentary” and “Journalism.” Where moving parts blur the lines between fact-driven, investigative, and informative, all tied together with documentary style editing and personal experience from herself.
Also to throw this out there, a TH-camr like Coffeezilla definitely would be more aligned with “Journalism” in my opinion.
Someone like Mr. Snowflake on TH-cam with his content definitely seems more purely “Documentary.”
I think Swoop is somewhere in the middle.
Not that it super duper matters to me, but it is interesting to think about and try to categorize. I do appreciate the scale and effort Swoop puts in, and overall the semantics of what to label her production doesn’t affect me.
not true. I don't consider them documentaries because they're opinion pieces. usually documentaries consist of the producer seeking out experts to talk about the topic, Swoop just goes over it all herself. if she makes documentaries then Paige Christie makes documentaries. neither of them do, they're just high quality drama videos
Swoop is a wonderful journalist (and internet investigator!), film-maker, and documentarian. I'm so glad I found her content.
She has a great team.
@@biteofdog Indeed!
Yes!
The one about her teeth really got me-being so open about it, and showing other folks in the same boat a way to fix the issue until they can afford a more permanent one is beautiful.
So happy you enjoy her. I’ve always hoped she’d get the recognition she deserves and now she is! 🥰
Swoop is a mfing icon and deserves the title of documentarian and filmmaker. LOVE HER!!!
Im going through one of the toughest points in my life rn, and seeing u make it through this with such grace has given me courage to keep going past this hard time. Thank u so much Adam Ive been watching you since before all this and seeing you grow and thrive past this has given me so much courage. I could rn lifes been tough but ur videos have helped me get through so much lately ❤
I am too. I hope you are okay. Hugs from Grammy Brenda ❤
Same here. I'm a huge people pleaser and seeing Adam continue to speak the truth against old people who wants to silence him is reminding me I don't need to stay silent either. There is struggles yes but the truth is the truth.
@@seekittycat and the truth doesn't change. Edit: not all us 'old people' are bad. We can be victims too.
I'm so sorry,sweetheart. I'm glad watching Adam gives u some reprieve from it. I hope things get easier for u soon! Try not to grab too many necks, haha!! Sending u lots of love ~From Nashville 💖
BIG same :(
I just want to mention how much you’ve grown through all of this. It’s been difficult, and we don’t know how much harder it is alone, and yet you’ve managed to spin this into a more positive narrative for yourself. Idk. When I went through something, I let it consume me. I’m so proud that you pulled yourself up. It’s admirable from a similar perspective
Agreed, but I also just wanna give you credit where it's due because every individual heals at their own pace and (in my personal opinion) it's fine to leave certain people and events without forgiveness if it means you're able to find peace. One day, one hour & one minute at a time. I'm glad you're still here to tell your story.
I did too and still do sometimes. My husband always ask why I let that man hold so much power over me. And it's not that I let him hold power over me it's just a wound that cuts so deep and stitches rip open over and over and over and it never fucking goes away. And a lot of people who've never been through this don't understand that you don't have to do anything wrong to me. You can say something that that person used to say and it will trigger me. It doesn't have to be negative. It could just be the way you said it or the way you worded it. It is so hard to live a normal life after things like this happen and I'm proud of you for recognizing that you let it consume you a lot of people don't realize it and it becomes a bigger problem. It took me cutting off pretty much all of my friends and family to truly heal. I had to surround myself with one person who was really going to be there for me. My husband. And I still struggle everyday..
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@@seagurllwhat a beautiful encouragement and true
@@beccak1011 I understand this. If he is like my hubs, he wishes he could get his hands on the guy who hurt you so much. I have had to go back to therapy a few times to deal with things that resurface. And things can trigger you. You aren’t alone, and your husband may need to have a session with you so he can understand that it isn’t easy to not have it rise back up on you and cause issues. He wants you to be happy, and wants it now, and that is a normal human feeling. You and I want it now, too, but it just doesn’t happen like that. I hope you continue to heal, and love your life, sister.♥️✌️
One of the definitions of a documentary: using pictures or interviews with people involved in real events to provide a factual report on a particular subject.
Swoop is definitely doing a documentary series.
yea people just dont wanna admit it because they dont see youtubers as professional, SOME are lol. if they watched a swoop doc or two they would get it
Even if it's not a documentary. It's certainly an investigative report.
This is my take, I could be wrong but hear me out: when something like this comes up, everybody has a way that they initially react. Hers was to be hesitant and not immediately abandon her friend. And it makes total sense that she did not initially understand the severity or the details of what the heck everyone was talking about. Nobody did at first. I sure as heck didn't. And that doesn't mean she didn't care that means she's a normal human with her own life in which she knew jack shit about you or what Coleen did at first. And then didn't believe it. And then within a matter of days, realized. Which is a very quick period of to time realize something so shocking and unexpected. There was a period of denial which is very normal when a grief filled reality like this is thrown upon you and you loose a friend who turns out to have been evil all along. You think she didn't care like Coleen or Johnny, no, she just didn't understand initially! You're traumatized from dealing with manipulators like Coleen and Johnny in your youth, which is the whole reason why what they did is evil in the first place. What Trisha says makes perfect sense. It's a perfectly understandable reaction.
I completely agree. I was a fan of Colleen and it took me a week or 2 after Colleen went silent to even watch Adam’s video because I thought it was just drama and cancel culture kind of stuff. I can only imagine being on TH-cam as long as Trisha has and having to set her own boundaries with these kinds of situations- what to ignore and what to be informed about.
I have the same condition as Trisha. A big symptom is getting attached to people and to put them on a pedestal. It takes a lot for someone external to shift that.
I also think it’s possible she thought kodee was just scorned and making shit up to get back at Colleen, and that’s what they thought people in chat were referring to. Without the following videos from Adam, kodee’s video is questionable.
Could Trisha have handled it better? Sure. But considering her past behavior and BPD, she handled this extraordinarily well.
(Note: that doesn’t excuse things she has done, just adds context)
@@skyamethyst8506 yes. That’s exactly right as well. I’m not diagnosed but I’ve had struggles with some symptoms of that disorder. And like Trisha said, when you struggle with this disorder, you need to hold yourself back from reacting immediately anyway.
I just hope everyone involved is able to heal and receive closure. This is an awful scenario through and through. Sick people deserve accountability for their actions for sure, and there is value to me when people are willing to have personal growth and make their wrongs right.
For those that refuse to see their wrongdoings and accept them, then work towards that growth, I feel true pity for. That just sounds like a miserable and exhausting existence, totally unfulfilling and void of the good that humanity has to offer.
I think most people can change, but not everyone does.
I think it would do Trisha better to just acknowledge this. Instead she is feigning ignorance.
I think it’s possible Trisha just didn’t want to see it. It’s an aspect of Betrayal Blindness where you don’t let yourself see something because it’s too hard to fully see and accept it. So you tell yourself some other explanation or you ignore it completely. Some people doing that even get MAD at people telling them the truth if they’re too much in denial (it’s a really awful part about abuse and mistreatment)
Solely wanting an apology is so so so valid. I had also just wanted an apology. I literally told my school through my lawyer (where my SA happened) that I would never bring it up again if I just got an apology. But they wanted to buy my silence instead. I would've signed a contract saying I wouldn't speak if I could just get that acknowledgement of how much I went through and how they messed up (they gaslight and blamed me for three years). When will people realize that an apology, especially a meaningful apology, goes a long way?
Your 100% correct, I am reminded of how I almost got an honest apology from my abuser that was immediately ruined when they said "I didn't think it was a big deal because you were so young and wouldn't remember". Which as an adult I now realize ot was never going to be honest, they were only doing so to save face after being outed.
Because unfortunately people’s egos are so big that they consider being the person in the wrong, worse than the emotions of another person…. Basic empathy. It’s extremely sad and a serious crutch in our society. People are too afraid to apologise because by doing so, admits fault.
As a cam girl I really appreciate you agreeing with the stigma and the way sw are treated! I didn’t initially realize how johnny always mentioned sw and was condescending every time. Sometimes if feels like everyone has a negative opinion of us which I can understand, but I was prepared for you to share the same opinion on that and was so glad to hear you agree with Trish about it!
I like sex workers and think they are strong and am glad they're making money off pathetic losers (the cheaters and single ass incels) but at the same time I find the people who go to them pathetic
I feel like they are extremely contradictory takes I've always wanted to ask a sex worker what they thing about this id appreciate your thoughts although if you don't want to respond that's perfectly fine I hope you live a happy life and get rich from all work you do ❤️
Hey I’m a cam girl too!! I never spot us out in the wild haha
@@MS-wh7ec same 😂
@@thesavvyverse I replied but it looks like my comment was removed
@@alisonfields4688 oh that sucks thanks for taking the time to reply even if it got deleted lol
As someone who struggles with PTSD and has a lot of trauma that lead to me spiraling and having severe emotiona reactions I understand and appreciate that Trisha didn't act right away but stepped back, assessed, processed and went through the emotions before articulating herself on the situation. In fact my therapist taught me how to do that in order to even be able to communicate on serious matters. I don't think she would do you the case any favors had she articulated herself purely out of chaotic unsorted emotions without any logic or comprehension on the matter. It would be messy and a spectacle for all the wrong reason and it would be a "trisha freakshow" which would take away from the seriousness of the matter. She went on as normal while processing her thoughts and feelings, getting all the facts before reacting; i think it's honorable.
As a film major who had to make a documentary as my culminating project on top of a documentary test, Swoops videos *are* in fact documentaries!!
I'll be completely honest, I feel as though due to trisha's trauma and her past with grooming, I feel as though Moses most likely didn't want her to get triggered by messages. And from my own personal problems it's hard when you've gone through something traumatic and then find out someone else has gone through the same thing or even worse
this is what i thought too
yeah that’s probably what it is. But I also wished she had like a manager or assistant that could go online and be up to date for her. And maybe they can pull her aside and say hey your friend’s shady.
Yeah, I have BPD and I have asked my husband to monitor my social media before when I put out public articles, blog posts, TikToks etc. It's too easy to get triggered. I can personally believe Moses deleted it not knowing the context.
What grooming history? Her stories about her teachers? Cause that’s been shown to be untrue. It has the same, if not even worse, inconsistencies like Johnny. Trisha and Johnny are scarily similar with how they hear real victim’s stories and then copy it and say they went through that same thing to garner attention and sympathy
@@soychorizo496 respectfully do you know where I can find evidence on that as I'd rather not just take your word on it(not saying I don't believe u but I don't want to be seen as me going against an alleged victim 🫶🏻)
If I had a friend who was a sex worker, I would not be logging on to have a wee peek at her work. That seems like a very obvious boundary to me! The whole thing is extremely weird at every level. Colleen Ballinger doesn't seem to have any idea what boundaries are.
I know this isn't what all is this is about, but i am SO PROUD of Swoop putting in all the work and getting all of this recognition! I know she's had a really rough go on TH-cam for a very very long time and gotten screwed over. I'm happy to see her finally get the recognition she deserves.
Honestly i don't think she is lying or moses hid stuff.
I think what she is trying to say is that the reason she was banning people was because she thought "oh it's just this hate mob" and didn't look up what they meant etc
Yeah that’s how I interpreted it as well
Exactly.
Swoop is THOROUGH and very intelligent. She is fair and compassionate. She carries herself with respect and treats others with kindness ❤
I can't say enough good things about her.
SWOOP is NOT "JUST a TH-camr".
SWOOP is a JOURNALIST & DOCUMENTARIAN 💯
Thank you for all your tireless work for CSA/DV/Grooming survivors ❤
Trisha still needs to be held accountable for ignoring this until she was affected. I don’t blame you for not letting this go Adam. I feel bad for Trisha for how Colleen treated her but she is very good at feigning ignorance. She’s doing the same now with Josh pretending like we didn’t watch her a few years ago bullying him on an engagement ring of all things due to colleen’s influence.
“If I speak confidently about something, it doesn’t mean I’m not affected.” THIS. I could be shaking in my boots but if I don’t put up a confident front, no one listens
I think Trisha meant she has you blocked on TH-cam
The lying and denying and backtracking people do around this kind of predatory abuse always astounds me. It's possibly cognitive dissonance but the effect is gaslighting and you have every right to call this subterfuge out.
Yes thank you, Trisha is doing all this in this video. To me just a bunch of excuses
I mean are we really surprised? …
@@LoulitaParlitashe really is! Trisha is no better than Colleen and he past behaviour and videos show that.. I don’t know why people are shocked by her bs and lack of accountability now 😅
@@user-yj4se9ht5eso she's a pedo? Because that's exactly what your comment insinuates
@@ryanpriye1402theres tweets from Trisha @‘ing underage boys and telling them she wants to fuck them and she doesn’t care that it’s illegal, so yes
Trisha 100 percent knew about colleen n Adam
Has everyone forgotten the minor kid shane and trisha were hanging with and were both being so inappropriate. Had everyone just forgotten shes not some advocate for minors since the beginning.....
Who was that?
Adam, Trisha said "… I STILL HAVEN’T BLOCKED - There’s a reason him and I don’t communicate"
She wanted to clarify you’re not blocked, she just doesn’t really want to be in regular contact with people who react and comment about her life and family.
Tbh why would any youtuber regularly communicate with a drama channel that makes money off them.
@@asmrtpop2676 Exactly!
I mean for collabs? Adam is not only a drama channel, they both were directly impacted by the same person. Apart from communication issues online they would 100% get down on this topic and a collab would get insane views, maybe even getting her podcast way morde serious and popular
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Trisha would still be friends with her and would still be supporting her if this never came out. She only cares that she was backstabbed. She couldn't care less about any of the victims
THIS.
This!
Unfortunately. I agree.
Honestly I'm not convinced that Trisha knew... Her husband may well have blocked those people because he didn't want his wife to get dragged into what he may have seen as "TH-cam drama". It wasn't the right move, clearly. But it doesn't necessarily mean she told him to censor this event specifically.
I think it'd be much easier for someone who's faced their own "cancellation" and internet hate mob to give anyone the benefit of the doubt at first
I think Colleen apologized to only Trisha to get away with it and save her "reputation". Like she said" F*ck me right ? "
I think Trisha doth protest too much about not knowing what was going on.
22:31 VOLUME WARNING! rip headphone/earbud users LOL
and i agree with you about literally all of this! love to you and your loved ones, adam 💖💖
THANK YOU
You have truly acted like the most “adult” or mature person in this situation and I hope you know how admirable that is considering how young you were during all of this ! you and swoop are goi g to killllll this topic every time
Colleen and Trish are the same. They just care about themselves and trying to save face instead of being honest
I think it’s weird Trisha says things like I made friends with these drama in the channels in the past and then they were mean to me…🙄 saying one came to her home and then painted her to be a monster later - that’s Peter Monn, and no he didn’t do that. Yes he was nice to her, and also yes he called her out when SHE did bad things and needed to be called out.
I am sorry about what Colleen and Johnny did to her.
But that and many other things she brought up in this just reminded me why I don’t like her overall.
No, it wasn’t Peter. It was Rich. She lied about him, she told millions on the internet he stole from her. A blatant lie.
Ok. I have a bit of a problem with what she says about her stance on adults and minors. I remember back in the day a video Shane Dawson posted of him Trisha and Trevi Moran when she was SIXTEEN and Trisha and Shane were encouraging her to TWERK for them and having very inappropriate conversations with her. Like. Does anyone else remember that? I fully believe in growth and changing behaviors and beliefs but she doesn’t own up to her past with stuff like this. Unless I’ve missed something😅
@@ACasperrrthat’s fair but she’s literally out here trying to rewrite her past and gaslight people into thinking she’s a better person than she is, instead of owning up for her own mistakes. It’s the same with Colleen, if she comes back in a year or two without taking accountability, addressing and apologizing for what she did, and instead just ignoring it and rewriting her history, would you say the same?
Trevi's parents were there as well, just not in the same room.
"Please never take me speaking confidently as me not being affected by anything. If I don't speak confidently, no one will listen to me."
This disagreement between Adam and Trisha is beyond annoying at this point. I would really like Adam to reflect on the dissonance between how he has said himself "she never had to talk about it if she didnt want to" since in this situation she was violated, and also a victim who should not have felt pressured to have to say anything & the idea that she did something wrong here in taking her time to react, gather her information, process, think through how to end it with colleen, decide if she was going to say anything. How can you be mad at her for not processing it immediately and yet also believe she never had to say anything at all. Say what you want about her but she did NOTHING and I mean not a single thing wrong in this situation. I mean for god sakes wasnt Adam allowed to change his mind on Cody Tyler? Have one opinion and then change it after thinking about it and having others bring up points as to why Cody shouldnt be forgiven so easily? Adam made a video with Cody as well...and he was more in the know about this sitation than Trisha could ever be since Adam has been inside this for actual years. I don't blame Adam for having his feelings, he cant help it, but stop airing out the same opinion about another victim and your judgement of the time it took to process.
Adams been processing this for years at this point and Im sure opening it up again isnt easy but to Trisha...this JUST happened.
And enough of the people "she hasnt changed" in this situation why is that relevant at all???? Lets say shes an absolute monster. And? Does that then mean she has the magic powers to come to terms with her friend doing this to her immediately? Nah. This is a traumatic mindblowing thing to happen to a person.
That explanation is pretty much the way I feel about it.
Same here ^
The “she hasn’t changed thing” is relevant because people seem to forget what a “monster” she’s been in the past, that’s why people say she hasn’t changed. They’re reminding y’all and your selective memories 😅. Because during this all of a sudden she’s a martyr . Yeah she’s a victim and it sucks, but It does matter because her reactions on things are influenced by who she is, and she is the same Trisha she’s always been. 😅I get what you’re saying that she’s still processing things probably, but the deflecting isn’t something new with her, it’s not shocking and it’s like what did you expect from her? That’s where I’m at anyway. And I’m just saying, people are coming from a place of frustration with this person.
@@FabiolaMacabrebut it feels tone deaf to keep mentioning NOW.
Her and Coleen weren’t the close friends people thought, even Trisha finally admitted that. Co workers at best that saw a business opportunity.
Thank you for all of your coverage on these things, your reactions and wit and jokes are everything! So glad you can come through this and keep your head high, I’m so proud from afar 😅 keep doing what you do 💚💚
Can we put Trisha to .75 speed when she talks? You CANNOT put her on 1.25 and expect a human to fully understand what she’s saying 😅
Especially because English is not my first language! I understand only half of it. 😂
I also think Trish’s diagnosis makes that internalising and self blame hard to overcome; which again I think Colleen can play into that to relieve the crushing weight of her ego
I highly doubt her “diagnosis” is even real. She’s has claimed to have so many diagnosis over the year that time has revealed truth on and this will too. Im saying it, I straight up don’t believe she has a personality disorder.
Trisha might genuinely not have read them BUT its fully intentional. Trisha said she ignored Shane's allegations for like a year on purpose to keep the friendship
I'm not convinced John isn't working for Colleen still shifting blame onto Josh and dismissing other victims experiences for one upmanship
You are right to be bothered by someone platforming someone that is so awful. That said, I think you need to give her grace on filming the unposted podcast.
No one wants to believe their friend, & new business partner, has been degrading them. It takes time to process the truth, & even then you don't want to believe you allowed someone so horrible into your world/home.
She has done plenty of shameful things & didn't want to turn her back on someone she believed may be wrongfully being cancelled for their past. What Trish did right, was not actually airing the last podcast. She could make a lot of money, & she is standing firm on not being connected with her.
Her husband believes it is his job to protect Trish's mental health. That is not good for her finding out things about important things in a timely manner, but it may be best for her little family.
I 100% agree
Yes 🙌🏼
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People have tried and tried and tried getting this point across to him, but he’s just not receptive to it.
@@Nolitaflata lot of people also don't agree that this is an excuse for being purposefully ignorant. probably including him.
Trish has been inappropriate with minors, including with Shane, so while she is a victim I do not care to give her views (money). Nor do I consider her changed or forgiven.
Also Adam I don’t think you renting in another country is the same as Trish LOL
Same
i’d like to add that trevi moran doesnt like people speaking about this and has repeatedly told people to stop bringing it up
@@dem0litionsssI didn’t know this! Where did she say that?
@@dem0litionsssUnfortunately, it happened, so I am not going to pretend it didn’t when it is relevant to Trish. I didn’t even bring her name into it though, but you did. :/
@@asmrtpop2676 yes but we know who you’re talking about and trevi has stated publicly on multiple occasions that she does NOT like people bringing it up again when she’s forgiven trisha for it years and years ago
I think because of Trishas personality disorder, Moses truly just deletes anything he thinks would/could trigger her. Especially with them trying to conceive again. I don't think she's necessarily lying, I think he was just trying to protect her because she is highly emotional due to her disorder.
I don't think it was done with malicious intent. I truly just think Moses was trying to protect Trisha. Did it backfire? Absolutely. He should have done the research himself and then spoken with her about the severity of the situation, etc. and pushed for cutting the podcast MUCHHHH sooner.
Your feelings about how it was handled on Moses' end and Trisha's end are still valid whether their intent was malicious or not.
Moses is an (alleged) rapist. He doesn’t care about victims and neither does Trisha because she called his victims liars and bullied them into silence and then married Moses
If Colleen apologized she'd admit to a crime. And it seems so far her legal team has kept her from doing so (or from singing about it lol).
i agree with you Adam, Trisha knew about eveything going on. she just didn't care until it had something to do with her
Love swoop ❤ and her voice when she says “because I trust Adam” and you can see the care between them … so well done
I don't buy that Trisha didn't know, I would buy that she ignored it because she didn't want to believe it and prioritized the friendship, I could be wrong but my impression is that she is somebody who is a bit insecure socially and wants friends but struggles to keep them, so I can understand not wanting to believe it.
People being in denial about their friends/family/loved ones is not exactly uncommon, some people even stay in denial despite evidence, people like to believe what benefits themselves and their own feelings, that goes for any topic really.
If Trisha felt any kind of guilt or shame it shouldn’t be bc her n*des were shared privately between dumb, disgusting, horrible people. It should be bc she’s done some gross things to people she was trolling online like Ethan and Hila! She shared herself pleasuring herself while staring at their pics, that’s something she should feel gross or guilty about. Idk why so many don’t call her out for stuff she should be called out for.. it’s forgive and forget and feel sorry for her all bc she’s currently trying to be this saint online. She has so much to be held accountable for but no one does.
You’re so right about the term “documentary” with regards to Swoop imo. Her format is more TH-cam video structured but she includes a ton of primary information (interviews, messages, direct statements) that make it more on the level of doc than most videos that call themselves “documentaries” tend to do.
A long video does not a documentary make. It’s about research’s structure and information imo
Trisha could've saved herself a lot of time by saying "you know what, I didn't believe it, I assumed it was people stirring up hate and wanted to show support for someone who i thought was my friend being targeted, and then when it got too big for me to ignore I realized I had fucked up"
That's basically what she said in her first video about it...
@@SLTheOneAndAwesome19 oh, my bad haha. Hard to keep track of all the things
@@SLTheOneAndAwesome19 literally she said this exact shit before. Her going back on that is very concerning. That first story makes sense for who she is and what she’s lived through. That she just didn’t give a shit because she put trust over on the adult friends that’re child predators.
People want to say she’s changed and sure, people can change, but her walking this back to make herself look better is tbh? Gross.
Agreed!
@punkyjewster2350 She didn't walk this back? She said basically the same thing every time. She never said "I didn't give a shit" because she does give a shit and has given a shit ever since she found out a) the whole context and b) that it was all true.
I think it's valid that she was remaining ignorant as she has an extreme personality disorder and it could have really fucked her up 24:49
adam everything you are saying and feeling is so valid. i love u and i hope you are doing well💜
TRISHA LIED ABOUT NOT KNOWING ABOUT YOUR FIRST VIDEO ON COLLEEN!! she mentioned it on frenemies! Ok benefit of the doubt, maaaaaybe she forgot but its really convenient how suddenly everything related to colleen is forgotten by her lmao. Youre totally right, if she owned it, at least shes being truly honest. If not then...selective amnesia ig
Yep, Trish being Trish again. And I should be pissed. She has a platform that can really really help people, but she wants to avoid being “uncomfortable.” And if people around her are protecting and editing everything for her, then they are hurting her too. Either way, she needs to deal with it now. But I don’t expect that from her. She’s just doing what’s expected now. Dang it. I thought she’d turn a corner. Maybe next time she well. Maybe she will fix this.
The only thing needs to apologize about anything is to all the communities she offended for making fun of in the past and for everyone she hurt in the past she’s never addressed. If she did. She would end up more followers a to and not so many people still so angry at her.
It's wrong that Moses was hiding it from trish but you have to understand that's her husband who knows her triggers and what makes her spiral. It wasnt right but I think his intentions were good, he was trying to protect her, counter productive or not.
This stroy is so sad... It really ticks me off, that Johnny did this, seriously I keep asking myself the the heck is wrong with him
Trish feels guilty, that is why she is lying through her teeth
It’s all she knows how to do.
Adam just wants people to be ‘TRUTHFUL!’ Don’t think that is too much to ask, at end of day the TRUTH reigns! When Adam sat and bared his soul, the good, bad n ugly…this is why as a 20yr old, Adam is MORE MATURE than most people I know 👏🏻
Adam, hopefully one day this will all pass and you get validated, even if these people can’t, rest assured, you will power through a long, honest and peaceful life. 😚
We can see, through your story, also what Swoop unfolds, it’s not that phrase that is bantered about ‘My Truth’ BUT rather ‘THE TRUTH’ 💖
I think we can all agree that Trisha has done some shady/shitty things in the past. But she has approached this whole situation with such grace, poise, and sincerity; you can really tell how since becoming a mother she has changed. My heart goes out to not only all of the victims, but also to Trisha, Because she should not feel guilty. This wasn’t her fault. ❤
Did you not watch the whole video? Also, she does not feel guilty. You are being manipulated by her still. Wise up. She says whatever she needs to to get sympathy and attention. When will people stop being manipulated by this woman.
@isabella2513 i absolutely agree. i feel like a lot of it has to do with her blocking folks who make negative videos on her too. i can’t imagine how painful that would be.
@@BodTheGrinch🎯🎯 And correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't she say in the first video that she made about Colleen that she was NEVER going to speak about it again?🙄 Of course she's not going to stop, she's desperte for views because her videos suck.
@@livyykitty Doesn't matter, she needs to stfu and just move it along , but she's not because her views tanked so she's giving this shit WAY more attention than she needs to, and also because she's an attention whore.
@@LoulitaParlitaTrisha is a human so it’s not far fetched that she could have different emotional reactions un to you.
But we all know Malibu makes her heaps of money so she doesn’t need to use this situation. Babygram is huge 😂
Trisha previously defended Shane Dawson , even though she knew about his repulsive acts with minors, because he was her friend. I can't believe she didn't know what Colleen did
She absolutely did
I don’t believe she cared until SHE was victimised by Colleen
I'm not even a minute in, and yes! Swoop docs are for sure considered documentaries! She puts so much time and effort into these videos.. and considers herself a documentary maker. (Producer, director? Both?) As do we!
19:16 oh Adam. My mom heart broke seeing your face here. I wish I could give you a big hug right now. I CANNOT stand Trish. At all. And I thought this video would endear me to her….it didn’t.
Idk how in all of this.. Trisha is still the somehow the main topic coming up.
Colleen is the monster here. Yet we’re focusing on Trisha which has a very little part in all of this. Just makes no sense to me 🍅
@@PlaidshirtdaysBecause TRISHA Is the ONE making it about HER.. Not ANYONE else. People are only responding to her behavior.
@@RACHELLEfloit is about her. she’s a massive victim in this story. her friend committed a CRIME using her photos, she has every right to speak about it
She didn't apologize to you because she has so many people to apologize too so she will never do it.
I loved Swoop's documentary and I hope part 4 comes soon. But having a burn out, Trish is just a waterfall of words... I feel sorry for her what happened with Colleen, but a little bit of structure of what you want to say....39 minutes in and still nothing about Johnny (only in the beginning a little bit)
Right? At least a loose script or outline if you're a person who tends to be all over the place and go on tangents pretty easily would make a world of difference. She was just a bunch of words that didn't even get to the core of what the title of her video was even about. She just talked alot and side stepped some things by just talking alot. Simply talking alot is kind of alot of nothing. Even saying something about her menstrual cycle...I'm not a prude but t had nothing to do with nothing. But yea, at least a loose outline to get to the meat of the matter and stay on track. This is why I'm glad that Adam and other creators react to it bc theres no way I'd be able to listen to it otherwise.
I just wanna point out that they can't say it's automod either because conveniently the one saying "adam's story came out years ago why does it matter now" didn't get deleted!
This is why I will never trust Trisha. Even in her redemption eras, she lies through her teeth to backtrack and paint herself in a better light. Her word means nothing to me.
I also find it so interesting that Trisha was apparently blind to Colleen’s bad character even though Shane was veryyy much aware of how Colleen is and Shane and Trish were so tight knit for so many years. You really mean to tell me Shane never shit talked about Colleen to Trisha???
People with no values and no empathy for other people will do you wrong. Trisha and Moses are a "team" and it's all for the almighty dollar.
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The person Trisha is talking about wanting to meet in new York was Sanders Kennedy
I think when it comes to Moses not telling Trisha stuff it’s about protecting her and her reactions bc of her personality disorder.
Like I don’t think Trisha is lying here, I think that she has a system to temper her reactions. Unfortunately that means that she was ignorant of that and that’s irresponsible but when you consider her history of responding to drama, I think it’s a good thing if someone is monitoring what she’s exposed to
Trisha reads everything attached to her name. She says she doesn’t but she does. She’s a narcissist. Lol
@@kristiekane4963 Lol gonna be honest here I don’t watch her at all, just passively enjoy drama content. I just am someone who has CPSTD so i felt what she was saying about managing triggers, I could be totally wrong just wanted to be devils advocate 🤷🏻♀️
@@kristiekane4963I don't understand how she keeps fooling people .. SHE is even worse than before with her jump in views and attention. She will blow it all up as usual, then when the smoke settles, She will latch on to a NEW audience who knows nothing about her( mainly children) .. Then Rinse and Repeat.
More like her personality, period
And if what she said is true, she should be having someone in her life watch the videos you made and decide whether or not to tell her…maybe someone not Moses
Hey Adam! I’ve been loving your videos thanks for being awesome
Swoop definitely posts documentaries. I've never seen someone put so much time into a production. She's wonderful.
Same
I just feel that Trisha is really good at saying everything but nothing at all simultaneously
As someone who suffers from CPTSD I dont think what Trisha did was give excuses, because its not like she has done anything wrong in this case. I think she is explaining herself as best as she can, that she is very easily triggered as she said, and the internet does not like her very much (to put it mildly.) I totally understand Adam feeling like this is another case of people not listening to him and ignoring his pain but with Trisha I feel like she is avoiding triggers for the same reasons that those images of her naked were sent back and forth to mock her - the internet is ruthless to her. I dont think its fair to go so hard on her seeing as she was just trying to protect her own mental health AND she isn't the one who harmed Adam, Becky, etc. She is a victim too and shes not responsible for anyone else in this, she is talking about it and keeping the conversation open so its not just hidden away but apart from that I dont think its fair to put so much responsibility on her.
The amount of Swoops dedication to the facts was so spectacular, it’s truly amazing how well her and her team pieced this whole thing together. It was so well done, thorough, and came full circle.
Do not underestimate my power Adam! I watch all videos at 2x speed and sometimes wish I could increase the speed even more😂
People really think Moses is censoring the entire internet for Trisha? I think it's way more likely that she's lying. That's the one thing she has been doing consistently throughout her career
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There is a HUGE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN working with children in a teaching/mentoring context or being close to a child that you are related to, and being in private chats with underaged fans and/or interracting with children in a way that makes then uncomfortable.
For example: I was really close to my older cousins growing up (8-13years older than me) they would babysit or sometimes one of my older female cousins would take me out for lunch or shopping or they would have me over for girls night sleepovers, and I cannot stress enough how fondly I remember those memories, and how appropriate and fun they were.
Growing up I was also sexualized/fetishized by many of my teachers and peers because i developed early. The difference is that those people made me uncomfortable, they did not have my best interests in mind, I did not consent to the things that were said and done to me by the adults in my life that chose to fetishize a child, I never had a choice. Trustworthy adults will do things to accommodate to do things within a child’s comfort level, and always give them an indefinite out. If I asked one of my cousins to take me home because i wasn’t having fun or didn’t feel well in any way, zero questions asked, and never held it over my head. They understood that I looked up to them and loved them because they were my family so they tailored the activities we did to my tastes, they did not talk about stuff that was inappropriate for my age in my presence. It is about consent from the parents, comfort of the child, and giving the child choices including the choice to leave. Lots of adults have relationships with children that are completely appropriate, lots of children have the phone numbers of adults that make them feel safe and comfortable on their terms. Grooming is sinister, it is calculated.
Every time Trisha speaks about adamantly opposing adults hanging out with minors throughout her career I’m reminded of the video with her, Shane and Trevi Moran 😞
Usually I totally agree with you, however, due to Trisha’s past regarding the grooming issues that she endured I think Moses was just trying to protect her from being triggered. I know that you think that it’s a lot deeper and who knows it could be but I just see that Moses was trying to keep her from the pain.
I agree, honestly I think Adam was a bit too harsh to Trish in this video but I do 100% understand his frustration about this. But what I don’t think he understands is that Colleen and Trisha have known each other for over ten years and she was someone Trisha considered a friend. So when you’re getting spammed with all these serious allegations about your friend you’re obviously going to ask and trust the word of your friend over a complete stranger on the internet and multiple spams of people hounding you to give a statement and denounce your friend. I’m not trying to justify what Trish has done or minimize Adam’s feelings at all, I just don’t think he’s seeing the situation from her side. Plus she’s the ONLY ONE out of all of Colleen’s friends who have spoken out against her and stood by the victims. That’s just my opinion, I do support the victims 100% I just don’t think it’s as cut and dry as Adam thinks it should be.
@@logandevereux5076 he did. And it's irresponsible to just shrug off the accusations, just because you don't agree with his point, doesn't mean he doesn't see her side.
@@ember9361I actually think it does.
The person you're thinking of that she ghosted was Nikocado Avocado. But she also was friendly with Sanders Kennedy (og OG drama channel) and then Peter Monn. She referred to both/ all of them between this video and the Convo with Dr drew.
cannot keep up with these uploads. i was literally at a silent disco when this was uploaded and still had to watch the second half of the h3 johnny slideshow reaction this morning before watching this
"moses was keeping the truth from you" yeah i mean i am not shocked moses is not innocent either
There’s video of her talking about Haters Back off when it was on the air. She watched every episode and loved the stuff about the uncle the most. She said that it’s also great for kids. Now she says she never knew anything about Miranda. She knows everything that goes on in internet world. If her lips are moving, she’s lying. She lies for no reason. Never forget that. Moses was sitting next to Trisha during the premier. It wasn’t live. She knew. Rewriting of history is her specialty.
I'm sorry, I tried watching trisha's whole video but just Couldnt because she was all over the place.
It’s all for sympathy, and full of bs. You missed nothing.
Those are ALL of her videos, it's fkn annoying, I can't watch any of her shit.
I’m glad you’re not letting Trisha rewrite history
Exactly!!
Adam isn't capable of "letting" or "not letting" her rewrite history. He has no idea when she knew what or when she processed what. And neither do any of us. Can we just leave her alone? Of all the things to come at her for, this really isn't it. She was a victim of this situation and is allowed to take the time she needed to figure it out and process.
It's so sad to me how people's previous "image" can effect unrelated situations. Like Colleen's squeaky clean image allowed her to get away with this in 2020. And now Trisha's horrendous image is allowing people to continue to judge and drag her in a situation she did nothing wrong in. If it was Onision in 2020 who did this to Adam, everyone would have believed it immediately. If it had been Jenna Marbles who "took too long to process" as a victim in this situation everyone would be understanding.
I wish we could just look at things a little less biased as a whole.
@@baileylushina Sure Jan.🤣
@@baileylushinawell, putting Colleen making fun of her and sending her nudes aside, Adam spoke about how inappropriate Colleen was with him 3 years ago. She KNEW Colleen hurt at least one minor but that wasn’t enough for her to distance herself, not until colleen hurt her personally.
@Flapjack58 Most of the internet didn't believe him 3 years ago, if they even watched the video. Colleen lied to everyone and almost everyone including most commenters believed her. So if people who don't know Colleen personally were so easily manipulated by her, you think people she knew in real life were capable of seeing through her bs easier?
Yes to the documentary topic. Swoop does research and interviews. Shane gives stream of conscience and "look how much fun it is to hang with drama llamas" to rehab reps.