Setting Up Your LS MSD 6014, 6012, 6010 Ignition Box For Your Carbed LS Swap|LS Carb Swap| NW EP. 46
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- Today I'll be showing you guys how to set up your MSD modules so you can get your LS swap project running! Any questions feel free to write them down below! These instructions should work for any MSD Box models 6010, 6012 and 6014. The main difference between them(as far as I know) is that the 6010 and 6012 take specific reluctor teeth to work and the 6014 auto detects and adjusts. Price wise they're almost the same, but the 6014 is a bit more expensive. Hopefully this will get your Carbed ls swap running! The Carb I'm using on the LS is a Holley 600 Vac Secondary. Manifold is a Holley dual plane manifold. This set up is a 1975 Dodge D100 Body with a LM7 engine. Process for an LQ4 and LR4 will be the same for you ls carb swap!
-MSD 6014 Kit(Includes: MSD Box, Harness, Tuning software)
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Thank you so much!
Good imfo! Thumbs up bro.
Thank you so much!
On my 84 camaro I put a 5.3 fired by a msd 6014. How do I get factory tach to work. Any ideas would be appreciated.
What if you had gauges with the water temp sensor can I run that sensor inside the block instead of the one that come on the msd box?
Thats not a problem. You can add a second water temp sensor to the same place on the opposite head. Just remove the pipe plug and thread yours in. I had to run a seperate sensor for my toyota gauges so I drilled and tapped a hole in my water pump to run a seperate sensor.
Is the gray wire coming from the connector on the MSD box for the tach?
Yes it is
I hooked my msd 6014 up to relay sudden
Im so close to doing the fuel system in my carb LS swap. what fuel pump are you using? Im looking for either intank or external. I have it in a 82 c10
My 85 dodge tank didnt have a pump in it, only a pickup. I put in a pump from a TBI fuel pump and cut off the end of my pickup where I put my pump on using fuel hose. I ran the wires through the nipple for the evap and a vacuum cap. Wired it up to a relay and an ignition source and that was it.
Oh, one last thing. TBI pumps put out a minimum of 10psi, too much for a carb so youll have to put in a regulator with a return line and set it up to 3-5psi
Did the fuel tank originally come with an electric pump? And when it’s running you can see fuel from the return in the filler neck?
I have a video on how I retrofitted my fuel pickup to accept an electric pump since the stock tank didnt come with one. When the pump is running I can hear the fuel at the filler neck pouring back on the return side
@@NightWrencher ok. I’ll look for it.
Hi there what a the gray wire and violet
If I put a fuse in the main power wire do I need to run it through a relay??the instructions say run it through a relay
It depends on how you have it wired. If your relay goes feeds directly from the battery to give the box clean power, then install a relay. But if your relay would be after a bunch of other stuff and the power to the relay is already dirty, then just hook it up to the ignition switch and call it good.
Straight to the ignition wire it is then! Thanks for the reply Bro I appreciate it
Good Video and good idea t ing into vent line for evap! I'm going to check out your other videos! And subscribe!
Thank you sir! I've got a lot of tips coming out soon!
Hey this is Spencer we've been talking for the last couple days I've been watching all your videos and very informative they are I just feel it my duty to tell you that it's called jerry-rigged not Jimmy rigged
Lol, I know, but I've been saying it all my life so it just slips out. Good catch though 👍
Hi great video looking for more information. Hi 65 yr old LS rookie here. I have a new built 2004 LS 6.0,30 over,aggressive cam for torque (airboat application, need torque to get boat moving with 4-6 people) LS1 heads, 750 single pump but dual feed carb,(heavy valve springs ) hire rise intake with another 2 inch spacer to bring in more air, new 6014 msd box. Looking for a video to teach me how to install, how to use laptop, what software i need and how to use it. And what those settings on the MSD box work/effct the engine. Any help greatly appreciated. Tim, Omaha Nebraska
Hello, I don't use the MSD 6014 anymore but tuning the box is very simple. If you hook up the map sensor hose and leave it in "truck" on the dial, it should give you a good running timing curve, no laptop required.
What's the part number for the engine coolant temperature sensor
AC Delco 12551708
@@NightWrencher thank you sir
@@guillermoecheverria8596 You're welcome!
Get a patent on the worm gear adjuster
Poor mans innovation 👌
What timing setting did you use
I used my own custom timing Map on the laptop
Ok thanks....do you have a suggestion on what timing setting to use on stock lq4
Anything above truck will require 91 octane and the gains arn't worth it.
@@NightWrencher thanks again for the info and great video
How do you make the tac work?
You can pull the signal off the MSD 6014. It has a wire that produces a 12v square wave like a standard GM Hei distributor. Most aftermarket tachs will work on that signal, but if you have a non GM oem tach, youll need to make the nessesary changes to your tach or add an additional box. For my toyota tach, I wired the tach wire to my cluster, then had to add a 1k ohm resistor to jumper part of the tach and then play with the rheostat inside to adjust it. Idk about other OEMs.
NightWrencher yes sir I have a after market tach so I need a resistor? To where? And dam love the quick feed back exactly why I been watching your videos!! And thanks for helping mine get going I have posted the video on mines firing up
NightWrencher it’s under my other account Texas Motor Vlogs
@@texasentertainmentgaming yeah man, I think Ive seen a vid or 2. If you got an aftermarket tach, it should be bolt on. I would call the manufacture of your tach and ask them if its compatible if an HEI signal(old school chevy.) Chances are that it is because most aftermarket stuff is chevy based.
@@texasentertainmentgaming when I was trying to figure mine out, thats what I had to do to get mine going. Searching for HEI info instead and not MSD specifically.
Do you have to tune msd box ?
The stock MSD box comes with 4 preprogramed tunes out of the box so set the dial to whatever setting you want and itll fire up. I got rid of my 6014 in place of the SSLS and so far no regrets
Is the SSLS made by msd i cant find it do you have a link for it?
The SSLS is made by daytona sensors. Here is a video with all the links for the stuff
th-cam.com/video/FMwZhpEelbc/w-d-xo.html
Thanks bro.
Did you hook up the MAP sensor?
I did but my box is deffective and the internal map sensor doesnt work
I see wires I quit. I opened my msd box and said idk how I'm gonna do this lol. It's not alot of wires but man....I'm gonna have to watch this video atleast 20 times. I wonder if my Ignition switch looks that way? I always wanted to rewire and only run what's needed
Its not too hard. Its only a few wires and the rest should be plug and play.
@@NightWrencher yes the plug n play is the easy part lol.
Its just powet and ground!
@@NightWrencher lol. What about tach, my trans has a brake. And then the hard part on the computer screen
@@infamousnova you're going to have to wire in your own set up for the trans brake. The RPM signal comes out of the box as an HEI chevy square wave so any aftermarket tach compatible with an HEI will work. You can run on one of the Factory ignition map to get your carburetor tuned and then play with your own Maps when you get on the dyno
get rid of the glass fuel filter, they are prone to breaking and there goes your project in flames
Thanks for the advice! Actually I already removed the filter and I have an oem style steel filter on the frame rail now. I was only using the glass one as a conversion piece from 5/16 to 3/8 fuel line. But Im all squared away now!
Could you explain to me your starter setup ? How did you ground and wire it up accordingly to your msd setup
Your ign switch should have a wire for ignition. Its either 1 wire or 2. Ones for cranking and running while the 2 wire has the circuits seperate. You can wire it the box so that it runs off the same wires your old coil used to run in case you have the 2 wire set up or if you only need to run 1, you get that straight from the ign switch. Hope this helps
@@NightWrencher that makes sense I have the 6014 so it’s only one 1 that goes to a 12v ignition switch. So for the starter would I just need a regular positive and negative cables to go to a ground and the battery?
@ryanleaks4894 for the starter itself, you get ground when you bolt it on to the engine. The big red wire goes to the batter and the small terminal goes to your igniting starting wite
it's cool and all but why did you LS a Dodge I done basically the same with a 5.7 Hemi for about $1,500 that's buying an OC performance intake a MSD Hemi 6 box and 3 hemis from a junkyard but you can make your life a little easier by using a 90 Dodge truck gas tank it will bolt in and it's already made for fuel injection and Holly sells a pretty good fuel pressure regulator it's fairly cheap Part # 12-803 $35.99
I'm not sure what state you're in, but here in southern california, finding a hemi at the junkyard is like trying to find hens teeth. Complete engines dont go for less than $1800 by themselves. Considering, I paid $250 for a complete 5.3, $350 for my msd6014, $300 for my intake, $140 for my carb, $180 for my headers. I finished my whole build for less than the amount it would cost to buy just the engine. We are looking for a hemi for our challenger project, but we arnt ready to pay close to 2 grand for a junkyard engine.
UPDATE: I have removed the MSD 6014 from my truck due to increasing failures. I am now switching to the Smart Spark LS made by Daytona Sensors, check it out! th-cam.com/video/FMwZhpEelbc/w-d-xo.html
You can hit me up directly on instagram @thenightwrencher. Your best bet is to call summit and return that box in exchange for an MSD 6014. Its pretty hassle free, Ive had to return things a few times and havn't had any issues. You can also join LSX carb swaps on facebook for tons of help and info
Hope your gonna clean that wiring up that looks like a rats nest
Definately when I get around to doing it 👍
When you dead head an electric fuel pump the fuel overheats at the fuel pump and boils the gas and creates air pockets and it will stop pumping. Absolutely not a good idea
A lot of the modern pumps have an internal bypass when they reach max dead head pressure so it depends on the pump
Please Bro don't ever mention to ANY adults that you used an Eldelbrock ok !! Real Motorheads just DONT use those Bullshit carbs wannabees do Possers Do ! And I'm pretty sure that 3psi might be just fine for just idling in your driveway but I'm certain that just will not be enough to get you down the street ...we always regulate to between 4 and 7 psi ..just saying ..