Magnetic Energy - Crude Magnet Disc Challenge!

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 เม.ย. 2019
  • After seeing a fake magnet / magnetic 'free energy' video, I was asked to try and also make a crude version of magnets on a disc and see if there is any truth to the theory.
    I have an inkling that unless you are someone like Nikola Tesla, then its going to be quite a challenge for someone to actually make this a reality!
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  • @tomf4512
    @tomf4512 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    It's called cogging and the laws of thermal dynamics. Probably the first honest video I've seen on this topic

  • @LifeProject44
    @LifeProject44 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Mu-metal would shield the magnetic interference between the magnets
    which should focus the magnetic field of the opposing magnets a bit better, also the perendev motor uses the same concept but has 3 rows of magnets and each row is a bit offset from the other to give it that push in the spaces where it wants to stop spinning

  • @daveboyt6810
    @daveboyt6810 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    There is one adjustment that I'd love to see. Remove the magnet on the pedestal, and compare the spin time. That would at least give you a control to see whether the magnets are affecting the rotation. Also, you might try wrapping a string around the shaft connected to a weight through a pulley so you can give every configuration exactly the same amount of energy when you spin it up. If you come up with ANY configuration that is better than free spin with no fixed magnet you will have my attention!

  • @kentestes9776
    @kentestes9776 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    The positioning of the magnets on the spinning wheel will make a big difference as does your size and dimension of your magnetic propeller. Having that single force more focused would provide the same stream like influence of flowing water

    • @kentestes9776
      @kentestes9776 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Ie not parallel to the circular edge but rather angled to recieve the directed blow from the single opposing force which needs repositioned also.
      Might even look into an over tube wrap of magnetic blocking material to focus the magnetic wave.

    • @antoniovilarinho7858
      @antoniovilarinho7858 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Excelente ganhou mais um inscrito pela honestidade

  • @sbfloyd5343
    @sbfloyd5343 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Very nice video. You bring up a good point about the magnets helping to make it spin longer. To see if they have an effect, you can make a device that would start the spin, then count the rotations with and without the stationary magnet. It would be very interesting to know if the magnets actually effect the number of rotations. The starting device should be consistent. Again, very nice video

    • @andreasschmitt2307
      @andreasschmitt2307 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sure the magnets are affecting the number of rotations. Without the big one this contraption will spin much longer.

    • @harrytopia282
      @harrytopia282 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@andreasschmitt2307 dead right.

    • @glenwaldrop8166
      @glenwaldrop8166 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@andreasschmitt2307 I've been playing with a similar toy here at home, the magnets make it spin more than it would otherwise then stop rather abruptly.
      Remove the external magnet and then spin and it loses momentum much quicker but it doesn't have that abrupt loss of momentum.
      There's something going on there, not sure what but my little toy will spin for roughly two minutes with an external magnet, I didn't actually time it without but it was a good deal less than two minutes, wasn't even close.
      Proximity to the magnet makes a huge difference and adding magnets to the spinning device did not help past a point. I figured that even just adding mass would aid in the spinning duration but it did not.

  • @williamholness2089
    @williamholness2089 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Your diagrams drawn on the disc were more likely to have success. Notice your magnet spots you marked with dark tape were angled keeping the opposing pole at the opposite end of each magnet away from your target zone of ideal magnetic propulsion. But when you mounted the magnets you put them all in line with the edge which unfortunately allows the opposite pole (magnetic field) to come in contact with your target zone, causing magnetic braking, robbing you of the propulsion you have between your bigger drive magnet and your smaller repeller magnets. Do you see what I mean.? Put them all at angles keeping the opposing force (attractive force) further in and away. Follow your own example of the dark tape marks on your disc.

  • @joeblowjohnny2297
    @joeblowjohnny2297 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Got to put both wheel on a gear drive to sync it at the right moment for a continuous push ! Kinda like a cam shaft in time with piston and the valve to keep it moving .

  • @blackops84321
    @blackops84321 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    You might try 2 or 3 large repelling magnets and offset them just enough so that when one wants to pull on the wheel the other one will start pushing then add a 3rd to go just about 1/8 behind where the other magnet begins to push. That way there is always one or 2 pushing and over taking the ones pulling.

    • @ManyHeavens42
      @ManyHeavens42 ปีที่แล้ว

      they did that what was needed was a bridge in the gap! All we had to do was slow down,

    • @DL-kc8fc
      @DL-kc8fc ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No.

    • @Dr.JustIsWrong
      @Dr.JustIsWrong ปีที่แล้ว

      Magnetic fields don't overlap so pressing them close just warps the field, but remains balanced.
      You'd need to narrow/warp/eliminate/short circuit/reroute a portion of the field attracting the magnets.

  • @sarahthestrategist4560
    @sarahthestrategist4560 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can you disable the same opposite dipoles of these magnetics from a particular position, because according to my observation from you video the magnetic spinning had enough energy to continue until it reach his same dipole, so maybe it would spin continuously if you disable the same dipoles of these magnetics. Because the spinning stopped when it reach his opposite dipole.

  • @MPHJR
    @MPHJR ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is cool. I got mine to spin for 9 minutes and 10 sec without a bearing using a vertical setup and levitation. I was unaware of the challenge.

    • @chusdiaz9160
      @chusdiaz9160 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😂😂😂 También se puede hacer por mas tiempo y superior a 9 minutos y sin imanes ,una simple peonza en casi levitación y un fuerte giro de manos 💁

  • @ionutz89ful
    @ionutz89ful ปีที่แล้ว +1

    that big magnet you had in your hand, did you try to lock one on top and one on the bottom so that will create a magnetic cushin to kind of support the spinning disk? but bring them so close so they feel like pushing into each other

  • @danoakes4071
    @danoakes4071 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I suggest you try orienting the entire device respective to the magnetic force lines in your local area, along with variations of that force based on time of day, and see how that affects your results.

  • @glennboyd939
    @glennboyd939 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    With the magnets wanting to bounce forward and back repeatedly, maybe add a ratchet and a coil spring to power a second wheel.

  • @benvaneeden2460
    @benvaneeden2460 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Yes that's why you need a bismuth jacket around the magnets

    • @GWAForUTBE
      @GWAForUTBE 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The bismuth acts as a magnetic shield?

    • @andresgalviz315
      @andresgalviz315 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Bismuth is useless

  • @adamaydin7413
    @adamaydin7413 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Did you try spining the stable magnet by placing a bearing on it then turning opposite direction?

  • @markholloway9638
    @markholloway9638 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    One problem is the angle of the magnets on your wheel., they need to be more perpendicular to your stationary magnet. The second problem you have is that you need a “shield” on your stationary magnet ( like the ones they use on audio speakers) to dampen the field around the sides of the stationary magnet. This concept will work and yes you are on the verge of getting it right. Very honest and well made video. Thanks for sharing your experiment.

    • @travislovelace7619
      @travislovelace7619 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sir have you done what you say?

    • @gmstream9259
      @gmstream9259 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yup, “if you can block (or shield) a magnetic field, you can make a permanent magnet motor.”

  • @enachelucianadrian
    @enachelucianadrian ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It could be done with a system of cam shaft like in engines with pistons, to modify the position of magnets.

  • @daveschmelling962
    @daveschmelling962 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I would try to put some type of insulation on the back side of the magnet spinning on the disc because that's where it seems to be attracting

    • @andreasschmitt5805
      @andreasschmitt5805 ปีที่แล้ว

      Then do it.

    • @RogueLegend999
      @RogueLegend999 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hard disks have insulating metals. I have a bunch of them. If you sandwich that metal between 2 neodymium magnets, there is no attraction

  • @randolphhill733
    @randolphhill733 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That's a great experiment. Straight cylinders seem to be the hindrance. Curving the unwanted pole towards center and away from the perimeter looks like the answer.

  • @TotalFreedomTTT-pk9st
    @TotalFreedomTTT-pk9st 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good honest approach - I've heard that some people have got only Magnets (no steel) to work - Howard Johnson's were only Magnet's but were various shapes and types - grades etc - Permanent Magnet Motors are both fascinating and frustrating - I've also read that when they oscillate and bounce around back and forth a bunch of times you are getting close it is like there is some 'force' trying to escape if we can just figure it out

  • @victoryfirst2878
    @victoryfirst2878 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Nice work Pete. I look forward for you to succeed I know using Mu metal will shield magnetic fields. Hope that helps. .

  • @MrHichammohsen1
    @MrHichammohsen1 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice build. What if you add a belt between the wheel and the fixed magnet bolt and make it rotate so it gives it a push

  • @BaptistJoshua
    @BaptistJoshua 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Rig the main sending magnet(left) on a gear system so it moves away and back towards the wheels at time where it is only present when opposing a passing magnet on the wheel. This is easier if you only have one magnet on the wheel. This way it misses a magnet when attracted and then realigns just as the opposing are of the magnet on the wheel passes by. Kind of like kicking off the ground while on a scooter. Make contact for a moment of thrust, then back away, then again at the precise moment best for thrust(opposing magnetic force).

    • @parrotshootist3004
      @parrotshootist3004 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Or perhaps use two opposing magnets, on a see saw arm, offset to the spacing between the magnets on the wheel. So the push, moves the next magnet closer in relative to peak push. Might work..

    • @BaptistJoshua
      @BaptistJoshua 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@parrotshootist3004 As long as it cannot reach equilibrium.

    • @BaptistJoshua
      @BaptistJoshua 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

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    • @parrotshootist3004
      @parrotshootist3004 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@BaptistJoshua get the spacing right and it should have to oscillate. But without trying it, that's the challenge to over come.

    • @BaptistJoshua
      @BaptistJoshua 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@parrotshootist3004 Yep.

  • @duncandemicoli1951
    @duncandemicoli1951 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I had the same idea 20 years ago, except instead of one external magnet, I made a circle of magnets around the wheel. I’m going to build it pretty soon and see the results

    • @anon-aKCU5j92
      @anon-aKCU5j92 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Did it work?

    • @woozy7405
      @woozy7405 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The problem is without using electricity it will always stop at some point

    • @chrisadmaley
      @chrisadmaley ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I can tell you the results, it won't work.

    • @woozy7405
      @woozy7405 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@chrisadmaley Lmfao

    • @chrisadmaley
      @chrisadmaley ปีที่แล้ว

      @@woozy7405 people are so dumb about magnets they have no idea how they work lol

  • @JoeyBlogs007
    @JoeyBlogs007 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Perhaps a master magnet with a spring arm that changes its direction and returns to its start position that's synchronised to attract the next magnet.

  • @00naruhina
    @00naruhina ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I've always thought that something like this would be useful in terms of energy generation. But seeing how the fields interact, It makes sense why its not a thing to me now

    • @JCanes-zz1zr
      @JCanes-zz1zr 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Insulate is the key

  • @deaddegenerategeneration7441
    @deaddegenerategeneration7441 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You could make it so the driving magnet moves back out of position then swings itself back as the driven magnet comes into position

  • @mrdman094081
    @mrdman094081 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It seems that you need magnets shaped 90°. Have the opposing polarities pointing to the wheel center and the propelling end as you already have them so they get the boost.

  • @scottc6270
    @scottc6270 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the choice of music!👌

  • @Runescope
    @Runescope ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I don't know a lot about magnets, but is there a kind of shielding you could put along side of the big magnet on the stand so it's field didn't extend sideways and slow down the wheel? So that the field does only extend forwards?

    • @drienkm
      @drienkm ปีที่แล้ว

      The thing to understand about magnetic fields is you can't cut off part of them. You can guide the field, spread it out, or concentrate it, but it will maintain the same characteristics. In the common visualization of "lines" used to understand the spatial field distribution, a particular line will always be a continuous loop through the magnet through the space around it. All you can do is guide the loop with various materials or other fields.

    • @DL-kc8fc
      @DL-kc8fc ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cannot. The magnetic field must always be closed in order to show a seeming resistance as a "force". Ergo, this "force" only manifests if there is a closed magnetic field. If there was a mythical mono-polar magnet, it would be possible, even if it would not be clear what it closed with its magnetic field. Fortunately, monopolar magnet does not exist despite the wishes of fantasts. But there is an alternative - a static electric field that actually creates such monopoles against a grounded counterpart. It would be good to examine electrostatic motors. Many people have already verified the malfunction of the magnetic engines ála Perpetuum Mobile, both scientists and fools.

    • @kentestes9776
      @kentestes9776 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bimuth

  • @maxcragun1700
    @maxcragun1700 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Nice video. Something I would like to try, is to place the magnets on the disc so that the opposing Force is pointed out and attracting force is pointed towards the center of the disc, creating a lesser magnetic field. I would like to build it, but you make the build look so easy and you have all the tools. I look forward to see if you will make this modification. It seems to me, either shielding the attractive Pole or lessening the magnetic field in relation to the opposing magnetic field will give it a more constant drive. Thank you.

    • @drienkm
      @drienkm ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There is no way to make permanent magnets drive something continuously. If our brains could visualize magnetic fields and accociated forces as easily as we can terrestrial gravity, this would be obvious to most people.
      1) It would damatically violate laws of nature that have been tested and validated by countless people, countless times.
      2) This specific idea has been tried countless ways and countless times by people who aren't willing to question their intuition and who have decided, conciously or not, to avoid actual physics.

    • @mathiasmwingira6951
      @mathiasmwingira6951 ปีที่แล้ว

      @drienkm not true, this had been made in Tanzania and people produce free energy now.

    • @drienkm
      @drienkm ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mathiasmwingira6951 Are these people interested in showing their free energy devices to others? I'm always willing to look them up if you want to share details.
      I'm not afraid to be proven wrong. But if the natural laws are wrong, why don't we see people correcting them? Where is the analytical rigor? Where are the revised physics? I've never seen coherent analysis by anyone, genuine or deceptive, who claims free energy or over unity. I only see endless demonstrations of machines that deal with the same intuative pitfalls, over and over. It's very clear to me that these people have never understood what energy is or how it is quantified (at least the people who seem sincere).

    • @DL-kc8fc
      @DL-kc8fc ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@drienkm Finally, someone who has it in your head.

    • @chrisadmaley
      @chrisadmaley ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@mathiasmwingira6951 why make stuff up? You just sound even more lik eyou have no idea whats going on.

  • @MrHobbly
    @MrHobbly 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why dont you try an AC electro magnet for the stationary magnet, Maybe two or more pulsing positive/negative.

  • @observenotify8604
    @observenotify8604 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just like the magnetic coupling of the motor and pump, which repells and attract can create a magnetic field for continuous rotating motion detection.

  • @megapro95
    @megapro95 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Turn the system 90⁰ and use a circumferential magnetic bearing system as opposed to mechanical bearings. Use permanent magnets throughout the rig.
    If youre able to use a halbach arrangement while focusing on the negative charged pole for the rotor magnets, perhaps it may yield better results? Perhaps even using a small halbach array focusing on a negative charged pile for the propulsion magnet?
    (Edit) Also, perhaps instead of using a physical stabilizer as most magnetic bearing systems use, you could incorporate the same magnetically repulsive properties to keep the rotor stable within the magnetic bearing system.

    • @tonyromano8337
      @tonyromano8337 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Make one so we can see 👍

  • @rupeshmehta1861
    @rupeshmehta1861 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice educative video. Thank you. If some how that stationary magnetic is made to rotate as well around its vertical axis in such a synchronistic speed so that it doesn't work against the rotating disc and stop it. What do you think? Does that can have any impact?

    • @LarrySerflaten
      @LarrySerflaten ปีที่แล้ว

      That is exactly what I was going to suggest; 2 identical disks with just 7 magnets evenly spaced in a similar orientation and mechanically connected so that they turn at the same speed. Then it MIGHT be just a matter of timing their rotations so that magnets are directly opposing each other at their closest encounter. (Or some slight deviation from that position) The thinking is that there would be less resistance to rotate into position while the magnets are offset and conversely less attraction to the dwell position which is stopping the current attempt. Using just 7 magnets allows room for the magnets to rotate into position during the gap in magnetic field force.

    • @drienkm
      @drienkm ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LarrySerflaten Pretty fun problem for our engineering brains to chew on! The thing is, laws of nature are so reliable, that you can be very confident in the following without knowing details: No matter what arrangement of permanent magnets are attached to or near a spinney thing, the torque from them, averaged with respect to rotational position, will be zero. If you could measure the torque accurately at many equal position intervals (say 3,600 positions or 1/10°) you would find that while each concept may have different interesting patterns of torque variation, it always averages zero. You can concentrate pulls and and spread out pushes or whatever, but nothing you do with permanent magnets can make the average not zero.
      Now if you add a switched magnet or moving magnet, you now have a way of adding energy to the spinney thing, and you have a motor.

  • @d4ngerous4
    @d4ngerous4 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This might sound daft but have you tried something like this, imagine you had a sphere, which was all magnetic, super duper strong magnetic, then you had another magnet inside the sphere, super strong also, if you pushed the magnet towards the magnetic ball, it would move right, so would it not lift off the ground if you pushed the magnet toward the ceiling of the magnetic sphere, and if so and the weights was worked out correctly wouldnt that allow it to fly if the magnetic force was strong enough???

  • @jeepdickbirgade4979
    @jeepdickbirgade4979 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What if your disc was connected entirely to ac the disc being the opposite polarity and then your pushing force be the opposite polarity I'm trying to acheive the same thing but it looks like your creating by adding magnets to the disk repelling and pulling forces which is impossible due to the opposite polarity if they were just metal would it of had a different aspect

  • @abhishekkv7170
    @abhishekkv7170 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's amazing I think you should put another magnet facing south on other side too..

  • @JoeyBlogs007
    @JoeyBlogs007 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    It should be the placement of the magnets that initiates the motion, not the spin by the human hand.

  • @peterk.4266
    @peterk.4266 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Even though this demonstration validates the 1st law of thermodynamics, I think this just might be one of very few legit, semi-scientific attempts at harvesting "free" energy out of set of magnets. Thank you for showing us your attempt.

    • @minititan6205
      @minititan6205 ปีที่แล้ว

      questa è l'ennesima dimostrazione che conferma quanto la stragrande maggioranza della gente non abbia bene in mente il concetto di energia e ne che cosa sia esattamente l'energia. Si continueranno purtroppo a vedere questi video che non dimostrano e che non possono dimostrare un cazzo, sa per quanto secoli ancora.

    • @drienkm
      @drienkm ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you believe it possible for magnets to produce energy? Are you sure you arent mistaking force for energy?

  • @ruffmeow9893
    @ruffmeow9893 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wow - I've thought about this for years. Glad someone tried it. I imagined that if the main magnet were able to spin and maybe had 2 magnets with different poles that could help

    • @chrisadmaley
      @chrisadmaley ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You can imagine all you want lol, no matter what you do nothing will help.

    • @trendetitz
      @trendetitz 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@chrisadmaleyhi

  • @kookiemunster100
    @kookiemunster100 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What about using a piece underneath that spins the magnets on the disk that then spins them ever so slightly enough to make them repel and attract at the appropriate times. Or using an electro magnet that pulses right when the magnets pass it instead of constant energy of a permanent magnet?

    • @FatalShockKustom
      @FatalShockKustom ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree. I was thinking a cam gear that just redirects the pushing magnet’s force at the appropriate time in the cycle. Like ignition timing on a vehicle.

  • @DudesIn101
    @DudesIn101 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ima new sub to your chann because I find the content fascinating

  • @robertweekley5926
    @robertweekley5926 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Change the Flat Wheel, to a Fan Blade, secure the Wheels Magnets to the Angle of the Fan Blade Tips, place the Stationary Magnet, above the Fan Blades, such that it always sees only N-N or S-S Repulsion. Try that out!

    • @haroldkline4898
      @haroldkline4898 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well thought out, but this too will fail. Any open magnetic system that doesn't employ some type of shielding will always have a net force of zero. Think about when you bring like poles near each other. They repel when directly opposed to each other, but the slightest movement towards a side and they will attract. So as your positive magnet is passing by other positive poles you will get slight attraction - repulsion - slight attraction. The flaw in most magnet motor systems is using magnet on magnet drive systems. I am currently building a magnet motor that utilizes the attractive forces between permanent magnets and steel, and by doing so, eliminating the usual balance of forces and working only with attraction. I'll post a video once it's built.

    • @FractalNinja
      @FractalNinja 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@haroldkline4898what about using a halbach array of magnets on the outer magnet pusher to make the north pole larger and the south pole minimal so it catches less? Or maybe sharper geometry angles like triangle orientated instead of a ring/circle? Just some thoughts ^^

  • @saeedmalik4732
    @saeedmalik4732 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dear we are trying to make this project since 2013 but we are still stop where we start
    We were not able to remove brake please guide us

  • @DudesIn101
    @DudesIn101 ปีที่แล้ว

    What if you bounced the larger magnet after you spun it on like a Teterboro tottering would it bounce enough to keep it going?

  • @Abhisheklee
    @Abhisheklee ปีที่แล้ว

    We can turn off the left side bigger magnetic for some specific intervel at the point where the megnetic locking is happening.
    If you can try that would be great, with some mechanical lever attached with gears to the circular disk of magnets.

  • @TotalDec
    @TotalDec ปีที่แล้ว

    The magnets on the disk should have angled slots to move through. A quick pop at the closest stopping point for the rotated magnets would help pull the wheel by bumping, instead of relying on just the field. Plus, it goes without saying, put an opposite side arm magnet.

  • @geoffreykail9129
    @geoffreykail9129 ปีที่แล้ว

    what do you think would happen if you got the large magnet closer to tangent?

  • @1957fordold
    @1957fordold 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would say that this would assist a motor in reducing friction if you can calibrate it right.

  • @zacjones8623
    @zacjones8623 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you not use three magnets spread evenly around the plate with all the positive ends facing the inside with the negatives pointing out while having the larger magnet with the negative facing the other negative ends to constantly reflect one another? I wish I could draw on this to explain lol

  • @TheseusTitan
    @TheseusTitan 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Put a shield on the one side of the magnets (MU metal)

  • @user-km3qs6um1g
    @user-km3qs6um1g ปีที่แล้ว

    Надо всегда показывать удачный эксперимент, это ведь очень важно для всех людей. Тем более есть у многих авторов каналов разные работы с положительными результатами.

  • @charlessherlock3204
    @charlessherlock3204 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are a little distance from the chambered nautilus with the pull string but still interesting. Thanks!

  • @keithvlogs1
    @keithvlogs1 ปีที่แล้ว

    what meterials shields a magnetic field? Cause if you can cancel the negative atraction out?

  • @JohnKSedor
    @JohnKSedor 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think you've got the basic idea very well. It looks like adjusting the distance, magnet angle, size of magnets, etc. Will finish this idea very successfully. This is exactly the type of thinking & development needed when this Old System, based on the rebellion of Adam & Eve, is gone. It will be quite refreshing to be able to conceive and build all types of energy development for the future.

  • @mr7911
    @mr7911 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Don't suppose you know the rating of the magnets you're using? Would help alot..

  • @stevenredcay8839
    @stevenredcay8839 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What if you put another magnet 🧲 on the opposite side or maybe a whole ring around the spinning one ?

  • @drienkm
    @drienkm ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nicely made video. The task you are up against is mechanically analogous to trying to get a low-friction cart to coast more laps around a continuous circuit of track by putting various hills in parts of the track. But because local gravity is spatially simpler than the fields around a little magnet, not many people see the cart lapping a hilly loop of track as an interesting problem - it's easy to see that no arrangement of hills can power the cart or even reduce average drag per lap. The same principle is true for the magnet wheel.
    Permanent magnets don't recieve energy from anywhere, so they have none to pass on. For the same reason, no arrangement of permanent magnets can reduce net drag on the wheel (except for magnetic bearings of course).

    • @petesshed8422
      @petesshed8422  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the superb input!

    • @drienkm
      @drienkm ปีที่แล้ว

      @@petesshed8422 I don't know about superb, but I'm very glad it made some sense!

    • @peterstephenson4935
      @peterstephenson4935 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The cart would work if you could have a switchable anti gravity device and the magnet wheel would work with a switchable anti magnetic device. Unfortunately neither is available without putting energy in.

    • @drienkm
      @drienkm ปีที่แล้ว

      @@peterstephenson4935 Exactly.

    • @basicuser54
      @basicuser54 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @drienkm great explanation, taught me how permanent magnets work without any effort on my part!

  • @JustTrustJohn
    @JustTrustJohn ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What I use a magnet which pushes it instead of attracting it. 🤔

  • @atticuswalker8970
    @atticuswalker8970 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have you tried to use electromagnet with rotation switch to cut the field when it pulls. Wrap some copper and power the switch.

  • @seadangel
    @seadangel ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Try using the big magnet on a moving like a piston part to avoid the attraction and put a bigger distance between the small magnets and change their angle. See of that works

  • @simsimakov1457
    @simsimakov1457 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you want to get movement from fixed magnets?

  • @02jackal
    @02jackal ปีที่แล้ว

    Thinking about directing the magnetic field, perhaps encasing the opposing pole and sides of all the magnets might yeild a better result.

  • @pucca389
    @pucca389 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had already thought about this idea, but I didn't know how to look for it😅

  • @Leouniteus369
    @Leouniteus369 ปีที่แล้ว

    One question why did you not make it like the plans? So that the attractive poll is further away than the opposing poll?

  • @djsash9402
    @djsash9402 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi. The idea is in my head since long ago. And it should work. Is there any way to send you a drawing? Because I don’t like writing a lot :) it is a mixture of mechanism and magnetism

  • @ericwelsh4853
    @ericwelsh4853 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Maybe you could add an escapement mechanism similar to the ones in a mechanical clock? The stationary magnet could pivot so it pushes one magnet, then doesn't "catch" the next magnet.

    • @flynnstone3580
      @flynnstone3580 ปีที่แล้ว

      I made one that worked, I made the wheel similar to a car distributor with a cam and points. The outside magnets were spring loaded and fixed outside of the center wheel. As the repel came by the spring aloud it to pass, then come back up and pull.

    • @donpennington4655
      @donpennington4655 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's a great thought. I also thought about maybe a counter weight to propel the wheel at the point that it wants to stop. Kind of like a flywheel concept. Just a thought 🤔

    • @flynnstone3580
      @flynnstone3580 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@donpennington4655 what if you left everything the way you have it, only if you could make the single outer magnet on the stand so it moves in and out to push each magnet on the wheel, it pulls the magnet out of the way before it attracts then pushes. You would need something like a cam and a flywheel would help. You could put the single magnet in an aluminum cylinder and have it operate like a piston. I was working on something similar but with four pistons that would have like a circular firing order.

    • @donpennington4655
      @donpennington4655 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@flynnstone3580 great idea 👍

  • @larrymags2045
    @larrymags2045 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    is seems that the back end of the magnet is interfering with the front end. what if you isolate that back end with some sort if insulation???

  • @jean-paullefaivre1161
    @jean-paullefaivre1161 ปีที่แล้ว

    IMPORTANT: Try this out. I once had seen a paper that had information on how to build a FREE ENERGY/MOTOR GENERATOR. The motor/generator once started would keep running and you would get Free Over Unity Electrical Energy .The person had used Permanent Magnets and Electro Magnets with High Voltage Capacitors. With electro magnets and capacitors you can have a controlled magnetic field that stops the moment the capacitor is drained of its energy. With an all permanent magnet system you need to physically move one of the magnets away from the other or you get a clogging effect where motion of the rotor stops. By using electro magnets and capacitors or super capacitors you can have a controlled intermittent magnetic field. You can control the magnetic field with by an optical switch or better still with a solid state Hall Effect Sensor Switch. The electro magnet can be used as a generator to recharge the capacitor. You may need a diode to ensure the capacitors get the proper charging polarity. By switching a magnetic field on and off you can stop the clogging effect therefore the rotor can keep on turning and keep gaining momentum. I
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  • @alexbrollier4779
    @alexbrollier4779 ปีที่แล้ว

    Though it will need energy to function, the amount it produces exceeds the amount it draws. The batteries it uses are only to start, accelerate and store energy. It will also need high voltage illumination and a cut off switch for overcharging. Then inverters can be added

  • @richardminor5401
    @richardminor5401 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It seems to me that the stationary magnet should be geared to come closer to the moving magnets as they pass by (Moving away from the attracting pole of the moving magnet and moving closer to the opposing poles)

    • @michaelkande2374
      @michaelkande2374 ปีที่แล้ว

      Was thinking the same. This could be achieved by putting gears with appropriate ratios on the axles spinning the magnets (the rotating disk and the stationary).

  • @chrisp4028
    @chrisp4028 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good test!
    Thx!

  • @robertsiffles8499
    @robertsiffles8499 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Your on the right track just a few more adjustments

  • @nordiclion6104
    @nordiclion6104 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice! What if the external magnet was actually center point of wheel? 🤔 🙈😁

  • @user-oy8bl7fn8h
    @user-oy8bl7fn8h ปีที่แล้ว

    The most successful experiments I've seen seem to have a combination of magnetic, stored kinetic and gravity energies.

  • @thomasmore260
    @thomasmore260 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's impossible for Nikola Tesla too but his fans John, Lucas, Marcus and Mathew posted his wonders into the internet 70 years later anyways.

  • @James-og6cx
    @James-og6cx 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What about placing magnetic shielding where the resistance points are?

  • @Nafas.1996
    @Nafas.1996 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello . You have a unique invention, I follow you on TH-cam. I had a question from you, great teacher, can I buy one of your works or give me the plan to make it. You are a noble person

  • @batteriesforeverything7112
    @batteriesforeverything7112 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Im thinking maybe place the outside magnet say 20 degrees and your inside magnets so they oppose in line, decreasing the effect of the attracing end of the inside magnets by distance. Just a thought

  • @mikkveere1409
    @mikkveere1409 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There is fiew more steps for you to take- firstly if you compare it to betrol engine then you play with only one piston. Add more pistons. Plus you also need inlet manifold(to overcome that "friction") as if try permanent magnet switch to time on and off. Otto motor is perfectly timed machine. If you take magnet force as betrol then you need inlet. If you can turn off the pushing magnet just at the right time, there is no canceling force. And it should be relatively low energy waste to automate that magnetic switch.

  • @brianktsai
    @brianktsai 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    on aircraft turbine engine, different RPM, requires differ angle of attack, otherwise the turbine wheel will stall, same principle, replacing air flow direction with magnetism repel flux

  • @pierluigilucianopolicella3039
    @pierluigilucianopolicella3039 ปีที่แล้ว

    What name for this paper field magnetic? 7:05"

  • @alinahunter342
    @alinahunter342 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cover the attracting pole either north or south however you choose in your setup with paper or something that doesn't work with attraction. It will rotate fine

  • @michaelsell9012
    @michaelsell9012 ปีที่แล้ว

    What if the magnets on the disk were staggered on polarity. North, South, to the main?? What does that do to the spin?

  • @df-zm1xp
    @df-zm1xp ปีที่แล้ว

    Add a shield to reduce the pull on the return side. Like a copper tube or lead over the fixed magnet.

  • @kimberlysolimine3161
    @kimberlysolimine3161 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could you put another stationary magnet on the other side and add three evenly on other side of disc and have a perpetual rocking motion

  • @joerggally1989
    @joerggally1989 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice Video, lets think about a next Spot. Maybe its possible to lift the Pushmagnet everytime when the new Magnet on the Rotaryplate enters the Magnetfield of the Pushmagnet to reduce the negativ Energy and when it passes a special point the Pushmagnet fall back in to the optimal position. or Place a Material between Pushmagnet and nearer comming Magnet which damps / neutralize the Magnetfield. *sorry for my bad English its a little bit rusty* ;)

    • @joerggally1989
      @joerggally1989 ปีที่แล้ว

      for exampel1: to avoid frictionloss place magnets under the Spining wheel which between the Magnets to made a simple magnetic Crankshaft which lift the Pushmagnet just bevor the new Magnetfield take effekt with the pushmagnet magneticfield and can create a negativ Energy, then after the new magnet passes the Pushmagnet, the pushmagnet fall down to normal position and give the magnet new pushing Energy.

  • @dave-d
    @dave-d ปีที่แล้ว

    Maybe a mu metal shield on the attracting pole of the stationary magnet? Leaving the repelling pole to do more work?

  • @matteorossi5128
    @matteorossi5128 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    if you have a reed switches on the side of the disk and move slightly the main magnet with an electric actuator, you can do it even mechanically with some modifications, you could move the main magnet when there are the death points between magnets that slow down the wheel ... it should work

    • @drienkm
      @drienkm ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, it would become an unconventional electric motor with output power somewhat less than the average power consumed by the electric actuator.

    • @matteorossi5128
      @matteorossi5128 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@drienkm not if you do it mechanically as I did

  • @thevaldis1167
    @thevaldis1167 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Okay, that's interesting, but what would happen if you put 2 opposite magnets near wheel. Wouldn't that double the power and speed?

  • @julioguidosjr8932
    @julioguidosjr8932 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Congratulations on the video. You could use a metal bar between the outside magnet and the wheel magnets to redirect the magnetic fields.

  • @michaelcook3794
    @michaelcook3794 ปีที่แล้ว

    Try a steel ball enclosed in a rubber tube on the circumference of the disc. then tip the unit at a 45-degree angle. then adjust the stationary magnet until it barely acts upon it.

  • @richardminor5401
    @richardminor5401 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How about placing a metal strip diffuser on the attracting pole (like metal spokes) to diffuse the attraction that is stopping the wheel from turning

  • @Poppy_love59
    @Poppy_love59 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think the answer lies in the angle of attack. Rather than having the magnets on the disk facing only part way towards the other magnet. You should try gluing the magnets with the apposing side facing completely outward from the center of the disk so less of the attractive side is visible ! Try leaving the large stationary magnet at the same angle and then also try it facing directly at the disk.

    • @harrytopia282
      @harrytopia282 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Doesn't work magnets don't behave like rockets and angling them does nothing.

  • @Z0mb13ta11ahase
    @Z0mb13ta11ahase 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What if you had some sort of piston directly tied to the rotation of the disk that oscillated the "driving" magnet away and back a few mm or so so that it didnt interfere with the incoming magnet? Its not about free energy, its about increasing the efficiency of the input energy.

  • @quellenathanar
    @quellenathanar 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Obviously, we know about the 2nd law of thermodynamics, etc, but just to add additional passive interplay of forces, you could add a few, or several coils that get energized by moving through a magnetic field/s, and send its energy to another coil/s to repel/attract the magnet in the stator, or even add another stator further up the Z axis of the axle to interact with said coils.
    Since the universe, or multiverse (if you prefer) exists, and there is plenty of movement, existence itself seems to violate the 2nd law...which happens at the quantum level routinely.

  • @natoshiabahner7271
    @natoshiabahner7271 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Put some type of lead plating between like poles to stop an attraction at the same time opposite poles continue to push

  • @robsonwaynneantonio9472
    @robsonwaynneantonio9472 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What is the torque and rpm please???

  • @caseynimmo4440
    @caseynimmo4440 ปีที่แล้ว

    I suggest some research into Howard Johnson's magnetic motor patent. Might give you a few ideas.