Yes, I had the same idea and looked at a product called MUMetal which contains High amounts of Nickel and is actually sold as a shield for magnetic fields. With all magnets placed at 45 degrees it should be easy to shield the approach to prevent the opposing force from slowing the magnetic turn. Perhaps @petesshed can try this in part 3?
@@nevermindthepoliticsuk4462 Don't waste your time it won't work, already have tried this. Mumetal is a poor man's magnetic "shield". Its not a real magnetic shield that actually blocks magnetism, hence the magnets will just be attracted to the mumetal and slow down, and hence you won't get any free electricty from the device.
@@nevermindthepoliticsuk4462And there's shouldn't be equal parts of magnetic field parts. So make sure that you have nondividable ratio of outer and inner magnets. 12 by 3 is bad because all magnets can stand in equal force geometry. Make 12 by 5 or 13 by 3 and etc.
You need the same amount of magnets on the outside as the inside. That's how it works for me. The angles are very critical as you stated. Also the spacing can not be symmetrical. you need a variance there somewhere so the magnets don't line up. I have had this turning an alternator and it works. The only problem I have is when there is high load. Then it stops. Bigger magnets might take care of this allowing more torque if you will. Good luck! Keep up the great work.
As for suggestions, I’m not sure I agree with alternating N & S. I think having them all oriented to either have N or S facing out on the disc, and then the same on bolts set up for the repulsion. I’d also be curious if some sort of gear could be attached to the bottom of the disc that operates an additional magnet to move into place to give it that extra push to keep going. Again I really appreciate the lengths you’ve gone to with this experiment to play with all the variables. I think I might do the same, as a weekend project, and see what kind of results I can get. Thanks for posting
Try putting the three outer magnets in an arrangement that allows them to rotate away from the disc one by one. Two of the three magnets are not acting on the magnets on the disc at any one time while one magnet simply rotates past the disc causing a push action on the disc based magnets. The setup will require a pulley or gear wheel on each external magnet and three pulleys or gears on the post that holds the disc. You will have to move your bearing to the base of the post instead of on the disc. A string or chain arrangement will join the central post and external magnets.
how about using cogs or gears on the rotating disc and connect them to the stationary magnet. ditch the stationary magnet and turn it into a rotating magnet of alternating pos+ neg- force (could try using a slightly bigger one as the stationary magnet so it adds more range and force to the push/pull sequence) (disc will probably change direction if not anchored by the clockwork gears when the rotation of the magnet hits it) could try all neg- on disc edge or alternate between pos+ neg- all around. The idea is to forcefully pass the part where they lock on and force a push into a direction the trick is synchronization. Good Luck if you try this out :)
What about putting all the magnets on the wheel as negative but the magnets on the stands as positive? Also maybe have longer magnets on the wheel so the plus is nearer the middle and therefore have less effect of pulling it back?
Though it may be possible to get this type of set up to run contiguously (a magnetic mobile) it will never create excess (usable) energy. I would suggest the key to success would be replacing the disk with a heavy flywheel. The mass of the flywheel as kinetic mass may help overcome some of the cogging.
Have you tried to incorporate a sleeve / half sleeve on the three to kinda like direct the magnetic force & over come the negative effect you trying to over come?
in those 14 turns--accumulate some electricity to add to the venture of finding a way to achieve more turns on the wheel----------also, check out the inverter magnet--its fun just pondering the ideas with that one-----also thank you for video it was very insightful ,put together well,and narrated good
Well.. You seem to have covered a lot of my suggestions. Pretty cool. I could only think of this but dont have the hardware/knowledge to put it together to test. Pretty neat. If somehow one magnet repells all the magnets, the rest can attract.. just doesn't seem to do it.. Or maybe the magnets offset the wheel or an offset wheel that wants to keep adjusting.. pretty interesting. Thanks for sharing.
Great vid. Do you find hot glue heat weakens the magnets?? Somewhere on yt I saw a running magnet engine..Basically its a piston, rod, crank arangment with a magnet (poled end wise ) as the piston. Moving up and down in a cylinder. The cylinder head was also a cylinder maget ( poles side ways) mounted in the head, above the piston magnet, perpendicular to the piston. The head magnet rotated once per crank revolution, ( much like a camshaft) aranging its poles to pull up and push down on the magnet piston. Does this make sence?
I have a design but just don’t get chance to try it. You are the closest I have seen to it If you put rotating magnets on the outside of the of the main wheel when the wheel turns it also turns the rotating magnets like a gear effect that turns the magnet from north to south and so on As it attracts the magnet on the wheel it is turning and then will repel the magnet whilst another rotating magnet (maybe 3 or 4 placed around the main wheel) being turned by the gear effect With the correct timing this will constantly attract and repel the magnets on the wheel
Can you place magnets on a flat surface with wheels and achieve some sort of movement from the base. Two or three on one end attached together with another magnet placed towards the front with the opposite pole facing the grouping on the rear. Would the stronger grouping push the other one away and more or less cause the base to roll.
as an art project this is a better class of magnet motor displays. I played around with the idea myself, and did see some indications of a possible functioning motor, if the elusive magnetic monopole could ever be achieved in a large scale setting. While this seems an impossibility, it is nevertheless interesting to speculate on that aspect. Thanks for the nice uploads pete....
Along with the shielding mentioned in other comments, perhaps a Hallbach Array along with it for the outer magnets 🧲 could yield some interesting results.
This is essential the steps we took to creating motors. All you need are electromagnets and an alternator or three phase power source to sequentially create magnetic fields and hey presto you’ll have made a motor.
I learned how to cancel the magnetic field , it doesn't turn it off , it cancels it out , I built this same thing 20 years ago , before I knew about neodymium magnets , I believe I can get it to work now , I built mine with the VCR aluminum wheel drive head , I have it in a box in my building , and as soon as I get the powerful neodymium magnets I'm going to rebuild it again , I will let you know the results
Big issue is with metal bolts, and metal holders, they slowing down. Also try tu use ceramic bearing. And for all construction, try to avoid material's that are attracted to magnets.
HOW ABOUT IF THE WHEEL WAS AT AN ANGLE OR,THE MAGNET ON THE SCREW,WAS ON A SPRING SO IT CAN MOVE BACK AND FOURTH AS THE WHEEL SPINS...🤔 OR,GET SINGLE SIDED MAGNETS SO THERE'S NO POLARITY FROM THE OTHER SIDE OF THE MAGNETS AS THEY SPIN, BECAUSE FROM WHAT I THINK IS HAPPENING IS,THE ONE SIDE PUSHES AWAY BUT, THE OTHER SIDE AS IT PASSES BY, ATTRACTS AND STOPS IT...🤔
Pra começar os externos devem extar alinhados com os internos no mesmo eixo longitudinal e centralizados no mesmo. Você os coloca lá em cima, sem nenhum alinhamento... aí fica difícil já de saída. E mais, é necessário tentar isolar todos os imãs deixando só a face de "empuxo" á mostra, Todos devem estar isolados dentro do possível. Penso num "motor" desses girando vários geradores de fluxo empilhados, todos num mesmo eixo vertical.
24V DC Electromagnet - can be 100kg or more, With Holding Force... put an on/off circuit... every time a magnet comes the circuit will work, current will activate in the electromagnet and repel the same pole.. worth a try
Hi, I will put another video up shortly and discuss a few of the ideas put forward from the comments. I think the most popular comment is a low powered battery circuit that operates an electromagnet as you suggest.
There we go, on the right track, the simplicity is on the engine pushing quantum Mechanics part don't need much magnet, it's the energy harvesting and bosting efforts required more works
I guess it's the "plus" side of the magnets that ruins it. Is it possible to eliminate that so that only the "repulsive" force works? Sorry for the bad english :)
@@fredoscott2346 If you are indeed able to insolate the "side that pulls" you'll be stopping the magnet since it only works because theres a constant flux of electrons between the side that pulls and the one that pushes XD But you dont need to insulate it. Just buy a magnet were the poles are on the longer side instead of on the tips and try it. Even if you use neodimium magnets it will likely stop after a while and even possibly work worst than without magnets on it (which tends to happen). I actually incentivize you to try it it's quite fun to play around with magnets. Especially the more powerful ones :)
Don't know if anyone has said this before but let's say you have south on the stands that's pushing table so far round with North facing surely if you position them North outwards then push it to start the south pole will keep pushing it away to the next magnets you will need to angle south magnets about 60 degree to table and push anti clock wise only just come across your 😊 channel
The point is: If a magnetic fiel is attracted by other, when the rotary magnet is close to the static one, Who disengage both fields? This is the problem of this magnet machine. They are two solutions: 1) is to insert a shield between both magnets. 2) Rotate the static magnet to disengage the magnetic fields. Regards
Tesla's thermal magnetic motor has nickel wire on the disc and a candle under it. As the disc turns, the wire over the candle becomes non magnetic due to the Curie effect. The magnetic effect turns on and off and the disc spins.
First, it should start working immediately without a push. Second, the outer magnets should be a monopole and go all the way round, so good luck with that.
The secret is that a combustion engine has many complicated operations, therefore a magnet one cannot be this simple.. Your stator magnet or push and pull factor must be on a timing basis and travel the distance of the field and 1 to 2 degrees behind the middle of the field itself.
Why not use the method of magnetic shielding to redirect the north pole farther away from the south pole to reduce the effect? A larger disk may be able to help push it far enough back to minimize the effect enough to continue the rotation for far longer. In effect creating a preferred path for your magnetic field lines that does not intersect the polar opposite effect of the south pole field.
If you could get this to work then you could increase the work you are getting out of it by using multiple discs rather than stationary propellent magnets on the outside, then you would have the power of multiple discs spinning each other...
Lets remove the (outer) magnets that youre using to move the magnets in the disk (Ill call it disk magnets) We'll replace it using another disk magnets so the force that are pushing/pulling the disk magnets (which are the outer magnets) will be replaced by the "another" dusc magnets I have more options to do, but a different on what u currently doing Hope to see you do more cool experiments
Anyone looking to build an experiment? I've got three ideas that I need to test but I don't have the raw materials. Counting down Idea-3 I tried this idea out with fidget spinners and it sort of worked. The fidget spinners had three arms and on the first spinner I sellotaped a ring(doughnut) magnet to each arm, in a vertical position, so that when the arm was at 12 o'clock the right side of the magnet was always a North. I then stuck three ring magnets flat on the arms of the second fidget spinner so that North was pointing upward. I span the first spinner horizontally anti-clockwise and the second spinner I held next to the right side but in a vertical position spinning clockwise. When they were in synch, the magnet on the second spinner would always be behind the horizontal spinner. So for example, when the first spinner had a magnet at one o'clock, the second spinner would have a magnet at 7 o'clock, then as they repelled each other the bottom horizontal spinner would speed up. The problem was that the vertical spinner had nothing driving it because the repulsion was on the horizontal. The vertical would slow and fall out of sync and then attract to the South of one of the bottom magnets. I needed for the spinners to stay in sync and thought what if they were flat round cogs beveled at 90 degrees to each other. I could use two magnets per cog and when the vertical cog's magnet pushed the bottom horizontal cog round that would in turn drive the vertical cog. I got some cogs from a toyset but they were too small and the cog teeth didn't fit very well. I went to the local library but their 3d printer could only do tiny cogs. So I'm stuck. I also wanted to try a configuration where the horizontal cog had two magnets but the vertical cog had a magnet in a sort of slide, so that it was always sliding down into position as the cog turned. Idea 2 - You have a vertical tube that spins around a centre point, it could also be a tube attached to a disc that spins. At either end of the tube are 'balloons' and the whole thing is filled with ferrofluid. At about the 1 or 2 o'clock position, the top balloon goes near a fixed magnet. The magnet starts to pull ferrofluid into the top balloon which expands pulling more of the fluid into it. The balloons are not globe shaped as we don't want them touching the magnet and 'sticking'. The balloons are a flat shape like a blow up mattress and when the top balloon is full it becomes too heavy for the magnet and falls down, which turns the disc and brings the bottom balloon up to the magnet and the whole thing starts again. This is a very stop start motion but it could be used to power a flywheel. Also, to stop the ferrofluid falling back down the tube as the balloon is nearly full we could have two tubes with one-way valves inside. The tubes would have different flow directions and when the top balloon is first trapped by the magnet we could have a rocker switch which cuts off flow to the down tube and only allows flow through the up tube, which has one-way valves to stop the fluid falling back down. Hopefully this last part won't be necessary. (Got a version of this experiment with water instead of ferrofluid buts that's even more awkward. The balloons are covered with metal discs that get further away from each other as the balloon expands making the balloon less 'metalic'. So the magnets have less hold as the balloon gets heavier and finally drops). Idea 1- Take a reservoir of ferrofluid and put a glass tube into it. The glass tube is shaped like a walking cane with a curved end. The straight end goes into the ferrofluid, the tube is angled upward at say 45 degrees and a magnet is placed underneath the curved end(the ferrofluid should drop vertically here so the tube should be curved just enough to do this). The tube will need to be full of ferrofluid before the experiment starts. The ferrofluid should be pulled down onto the magnet to form a spikey ball which will get too big for the magnet to support, when this happens the ferrofluid will drip into a second reservoir which is higher than the first. The ferrofluid in the upper reservoir can then be dropped down a tube onto a plastic turbine. To make sure the top reservoir fills up at the same speed as the bottom one does, you could have a thousands of tubes pulling the fluid up for every one downtube powering a turbine. This could be upscaled and built in a disused mine. But first I need to see if a magnet can pull the ferrofluid up through the walking cane shaped tube.
The bolts and hand screws are metal. The nail is metal. The magnet holders are metal. If you got 18 revolutions without magnets, you should get more with the magnet field in play, even if it doesn't go on for ever. The metal components in this thought experiment could be replaced by plastic. Ty for your time
The whole system must be out of balance, I would place the magnets on the wheel with one pole to the outside, those repelling with the other pole towards the wheel. 2 magnets driving the wheel should suffice. So that one works right after the other on the wheel, when one is pushing the wheel weakly the other is pushing with full force. When the second begins to weaken, the first repels the magnets on the wheel with full force... External magnets cannot stabilize the system. If this happens, the wheel will stop.
Dejan de gastar dinero y tiempo en diseños que no funcionan ni pueden funcionar. Para hacer un motor magnético primero tienen que encontrar un material que permita hacer que el flujo magnético pase en un sentido y ni en el otro, esto es un DIODO MAGNETICO. Usen todo su dinero, tiempo e imaginación en investigar este tema, el que lo logre ganará mucho dinero, fama y resolverá el problema de la energía para la humanidad.
One problem that I see is that you are using metal bolts so you repulsion is being “counteracted” by the attraction of the metal bolts to the stationary magnets. Try it with plastic bolts.
I'm pretty sure I have the solution for this magnet rotor for years now. Maybe you're more of a handyman that I am! If I do a yt video explaining the plan: would you like to build it? (I saw a few videos that were close to my concept but mine is better by desing:a lot less energy loss in movement) Tnx
@@GWAForUTBE What about two tubes one inside the other on a shaft floating Hard to explain in a msg but tubes have same concept as disk , my thinking is if mag force is circular then work with that conceptual design or flow???
Hi. I'm a hobbyist, not an electrician. I wonder for a long time how such a device and whether it can work? In any case, I have no idea how this is possible, or if it is even possible? I don't know that either. But I would like to know and see the truth. If so, each of us can make a perpetual motion machine👀🤔😀 Is this possible????
However, it seems to me that mathematics and geometry play a great role here. Does anyone know any mathematical formulas or geometry and degrees of inclination of magnets?
Wow can it be this simple, your 3 magnet setup are all set up to push are you sure you don’t need at least one magnet set up to pull or possibly 3 magnets magnets to pull. To offset that week spot that keeps making it stop.
It clearly demonstrates that these magnets are slowing down the wheel. Where is the energy going? Whatever you're doing do the opposite instead! These types of motors should either start accelerating by themselves immediately or else only work once they get up to a certain speed. Remember, things that are spinning very fast behave differently. You need some kind of THEORY and PLAN. Each magnet must be deliberately placed for a specific reason!
You need steel wire around the magnet to cancel (lessen) the field from the side of the magnets. th-cam.com/video/U8mnrO-gM8s/w-d-xo.html This guy explains it really well.. Hope it helps...
I would like to see you experiment with gravity, it works well for the solar system! Requirements for success are patience and imagination and I believe you have both!
Ok, found a seemingly legit video on the magnetic rotational premise. Question is, how do you scale it up to be effective, if attached to an actual motor to generate power? th-cam.com/video/jnWWTWr4hM0/w-d-xo.html
The elastic trigger is big deal. And there isn’t any gain in rotations. As expected. Nice execution. Maybe the pseudo scientists will get the point Perhaps brass screws holding the magnets
information good work 4:28 but, have non-magnetic fasteners been used on the rotor.? have you seen the 'ocal' rotor configuration. d playlist th-cam.com/video/PIvZJ9xGutI/w-d-xo.html
Here's a secret tip. If it was possible for magnetsmuc force to input energy into the system with the right setup, you would not need to spin it. See how, before you spin it, the wheel sits there so still. It's because it's found an equilibrium, which is the opposite of energy. Energy is the change in state. It is always seeking equilibrium, but never finds it, because energy is change. The moment equilibrium has been found, all energy has been depleted from the system. Only an change in the system or an outside source can cause energy to return to it. So, if you can build a machine out of magnets that cannot sit still, then you've done it. If you need to add energy at all, the system will simply seek equilibrium as soon as friction depletes the energy you introduce. The biggest problem with magnets as sources of energy is that their fields are constant, unchanging, thus they have no energy. Electric generators only work while the magnet, and it's field, are being moved by some outside energy source oast coils of wire. All it is doing is converting kinetic energy to electric. Look at gravity and the rain. We generate power from hydro dams using gravity. Still, gravity is useless as a power source, because it never changes. In reality, the sun lifts the water, keeps it up over the land, and finally let's it drop on the land. Then gravity returns it, but the sun gave it the potential energy to turn into kenetic energy in the hydro dam. So, in reality, hydro power isn't a source of gravity power, but solar power. In the same way, any system using magnets is going to need to be combined with an actual energy source to even maintain motion.
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Place magnetic shielding on the approach side to neutralize the magnetic interaction until the spinning magnet passes the stationary magnet.
Yes, I had the same idea and looked at a product called MUMetal which contains High amounts of Nickel and is actually sold as a shield for magnetic fields. With all magnets placed at 45 degrees it should be easy to shield the approach to prevent the opposing force from slowing the magnetic turn. Perhaps @petesshed can try this in part 3?
@@nevermindthepoliticsuk4462 Don't waste your time it won't work, already have tried this. Mumetal is a poor man's magnetic "shield". Its not a real magnetic shield that actually blocks magnetism, hence the magnets will just be attracted to the mumetal and slow down, and hence you won't get any free electricty from the device.
@@nevermindthepoliticsuk4462And there's shouldn't be equal parts of magnetic field parts. So make sure that you have nondividable ratio of outer and inner magnets. 12 by 3 is bad because all magnets can stand in equal force geometry. Make 12 by 5 or 13 by 3 and etc.
Parabéns continue os testes
MT interessante esse assunto
You need the same amount of magnets on the outside as the inside. That's how it works for me. The angles are very critical as you stated. Also the spacing can not be symmetrical. you need a variance there somewhere so the magnets don't line up. I have had this turning an alternator and it works. The only problem I have is when there is high load. Then it stops. Bigger magnets might take care of this allowing more torque if you will. Good luck! Keep up the great work.
Really appreciate the extra lengths you went to make this more of scientific method experiment
As for suggestions, I’m not sure I agree with alternating N & S. I think having them all oriented to either have N or S facing out on the disc, and then the same on bolts set up for the repulsion. I’d also be curious if some sort of gear could be attached to the bottom of the disc that operates an additional magnet to move into place to give it that extra push to keep going. Again I really appreciate the lengths you’ve gone to with this experiment to play with all the variables. I think I might do the same, as a weekend project, and see what kind of results I can get. Thanks for posting
Could you shield the magnets so they only repell away in one direction and not repell sideways at the magnets coming round
Try putting the three outer magnets in an arrangement that allows them to rotate away from the disc one by one. Two of the three magnets are not acting on the magnets on the disc at any one time while one magnet simply rotates past the disc causing a push action on the disc based magnets. The setup will require a pulley or gear wheel on each external magnet and three pulleys or gears on the post that holds the disc. You will have to move your bearing to the base of the post instead of on the disc. A string or chain arrangement will join the central post and external magnets.
Fascinated with the ability of magnet power, great video!!!
I been working on this same project since I was 15. Great work! Try using steel next toothed magnet. This is a pulling motion. It helped my project
how about using cogs or gears on the rotating disc and connect them to the stationary magnet. ditch the stationary magnet and turn it into a rotating magnet of alternating pos+ neg- force (could try using a slightly bigger one as the stationary magnet so it adds more range and force to the push/pull sequence) (disc will probably change direction if not anchored by the clockwork gears when the rotation of the magnet hits it) could try all neg- on disc edge or alternate between pos+ neg- all around. The idea is to forcefully pass the part where they lock on and force a push into a direction the trick is synchronization. Good Luck if you try this out :)
Keep going, your getting close to cracking this, great video.
What about putting all the magnets on the wheel as negative but the magnets on the stands as positive?
Also maybe have longer magnets on the wheel so the plus is nearer the middle and therefore have less effect of pulling it back?
Remove some of the magnets on one side and use a non-magnetic counterbalance on the other side. You could use led or stainless for the counterweight.
Though it may be possible to get this type of set up to run contiguously (a magnetic mobile) it will never create excess (usable) energy. I would suggest the key to success would be replacing the disk with a heavy flywheel. The mass of the flywheel as kinetic mass may help overcome some of the cogging.
Have you tried to incorporate a sleeve / half sleeve on the three to kinda like direct the magnetic force & over come the negative effect you trying to over come?
in those 14 turns--accumulate some electricity to add to the venture of finding a way to achieve more turns on the wheel----------also, check out the inverter magnet--its fun just pondering the ideas with that one-----also thank you for video it was very insightful ,put together well,and narrated good
Well.. You seem to have covered a lot of my suggestions. Pretty cool. I could only think of this but dont have the hardware/knowledge to put it together to test. Pretty neat. If somehow one magnet repells all the magnets, the rest can attract.. just doesn't seem to do it.. Or maybe the magnets offset the wheel or an offset wheel that wants to keep adjusting.. pretty interesting. Thanks for sharing.
Great vid. Do you find hot glue heat weakens the magnets??
Somewhere on yt I saw a running magnet engine..Basically its a piston, rod, crank arangment with a magnet (poled end wise ) as the piston. Moving up and down in a cylinder.
The cylinder head was also a cylinder maget ( poles side ways) mounted in the head, above the piston magnet, perpendicular to the piston. The head magnet rotated once per crank revolution, ( much like a camshaft) aranging its poles to pull up and push down on the magnet piston.
Does this make sence?
I have a design but just don’t get chance to try it. You are the closest I have seen to it
If you put rotating magnets on the outside of the of the main wheel when the wheel turns it also turns the rotating magnets like a gear effect that turns the magnet from north to south and so on As it attracts the magnet on the wheel it is turning and then will repel the magnet whilst another rotating magnet (maybe 3 or 4 placed around the main wheel) being turned by the gear effect With the correct timing this will constantly attract and repel the magnets on the wheel
You are on the right way 🤝
Can you place magnets on a flat surface with wheels and achieve some sort of movement from the base. Two or three on one end attached together with another magnet placed towards the front with the opposite pole facing the grouping on the rear. Would the stronger grouping push the other one away and more or less cause the base to roll.
Hey! What if the disc would be vertically? Im curious to see how gravity would work here.
Admirável trabalho.
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How about a stationary disk in the middle as well with opposing magnets to prevent the dead zone?
as an art project this is a better class of magnet motor displays. I played around with the idea myself, and did see some indications of a possible functioning motor, if the elusive magnetic monopole could ever be achieved in a large scale setting. While this seems an impossibility, it is nevertheless interesting to speculate on that aspect. Thanks for the nice uploads pete....
Along with the shielding mentioned in other comments, perhaps a Hallbach Array along with it for the outer magnets 🧲 could yield some interesting results.
This is essential the steps we took to creating motors. All you need are electromagnets and an alternator or three phase power source to sequentially create magnetic fields and hey presto you’ll have made a motor.
in the one shot that one stationary magnet is wiggling quite a bit, what would happen if the stationary magnets were able to pivot on the Y axis?
I learned how to cancel the magnetic field , it doesn't turn it off , it cancels it out , I built this same thing 20 years ago , before I knew about neodymium magnets , I believe I can get it to work now , I built mine with the VCR aluminum wheel drive head , I have it in a box in my building , and as soon as I get the powerful neodymium magnets I'm going to rebuild it again ,
I will let you know the results
I do have one question is the magnet outside dimension 10mm ??
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Big issue is with metal bolts, and metal holders, they slowing down. Also try tu use ceramic bearing. And for all construction, try to avoid material's that are attracted to magnets.
What about if you try with thin magnet (like a stator motor)?
thank you. good video
The outside magnets. You should build a circle track. Then you can adjust them around the middle ring. Then you can add more or less on the track.
HOW ABOUT IF THE WHEEL WAS AT AN ANGLE OR,THE MAGNET ON THE SCREW,WAS ON A SPRING SO IT CAN MOVE BACK AND FOURTH AS THE WHEEL SPINS...🤔
OR,GET SINGLE SIDED MAGNETS SO THERE'S NO POLARITY FROM THE OTHER SIDE OF THE MAGNETS AS THEY SPIN, BECAUSE FROM WHAT I THINK IS HAPPENING IS,THE ONE SIDE PUSHES AWAY BUT, THE OTHER SIDE AS IT PASSES BY, ATTRACTS AND STOPS IT...🤔
Maybe three big guys spinning a turbine with giant rubber bands while standing on a giant magnetic plate resting on gimbals? Just an idea 🥴
I think five magnets on towers might break cogging
Pra começar os externos devem extar alinhados com os internos no mesmo eixo longitudinal e centralizados no mesmo.
Você os coloca lá em cima, sem nenhum alinhamento... aí fica difícil já de saída.
E mais, é necessário tentar isolar todos os imãs deixando só a face de "empuxo" á mostra, Todos devem estar isolados dentro do possível.
Penso num "motor" desses girando vários geradores de fluxo empilhados, todos num mesmo eixo vertical.
you have set 5 and 6 positions.
then you will see, that it works all times
24V DC Electromagnet - can be 100kg or more, With Holding Force... put an on/off circuit... every time a magnet comes the circuit will work, current will activate in the electromagnet and repel the same pole.. worth a try
Hi, I will put another video up shortly and discuss a few of the ideas put forward from the comments. I think the most popular comment is a low powered battery circuit that operates an electromagnet as you suggest.
Thankyou… !
There we go, on the right track, the simplicity is on the engine pushing quantum Mechanics part don't need much magnet, it's the energy harvesting and bosting efforts required more works
You should try turning the magnets on the disc the opiset direction
I guess it's the "plus" side of the magnets that ruins it. Is it possible to eliminate that so that only the "repulsive" force works? Sorry for the bad english :)
That would stop the magnetic field.
@@pedromoura1446 No, it would reverse it so the force pushes instead of pulls.
@@fredoscott2346 then it starts pulling on the opposite side and it still stops XD
@@pedromoura1446 Then put some thick tape over the side that pulls :)
Damn, I'm sure I could get this to work! Do I really have to try it myself? :)
@@fredoscott2346 If you are indeed able to insolate the "side that pulls" you'll be stopping the magnet since it only works because theres a constant flux of electrons between the side that pulls and the one that pushes XD
But you dont need to insulate it. Just buy a magnet were the poles are on the longer side instead of on the tips and try it. Even if you use neodimium magnets it will likely stop after a while and even possibly work worst than without magnets on it (which tends to happen).
I actually incentivize you to try it it's quite fun to play around with magnets. Especially the more powerful ones :)
Don't know if anyone has said this before but let's say you have south on the stands that's pushing table so far round with North facing surely if you position them North outwards then push it to start the south pole will keep pushing it away to the next magnets you will need to angle south magnets about 60 degree to table and push anti clock wise only just come across your 😊 channel
The point is: If a magnetic fiel is attracted by other, when the rotary magnet is close to the static one, Who disengage both fields?
This is the problem of this magnet machine. They are two solutions: 1) is to insert a shield between both magnets. 2) Rotate the static magnet to disengage the magnetic fields.
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Tesla's thermal magnetic motor has nickel wire on the disc and a candle under it. As the disc turns, the wire over the candle becomes non magnetic due to the Curie effect. The magnetic effect turns on and off and the disc spins.
You should look into Magnetic pistons.
If there is anything to be had from trying to turn magnetic force into useful energy I expect it lies there.
First, it should start working immediately without a push.
Second, the outer magnets should be a monopole and go all the way round, so good luck with that.
Can electricity for home can be generated like this
you need a dook or resort in one magnet not three , salutes
You will never get rotation with fixed magnets. Try to move at least one of the external magnets.
The secret is that a combustion engine has many complicated operations, therefore a magnet one cannot be this simple.. Your stator magnet or push and pull factor must be on a timing basis and travel the distance of the field and 1 to 2 degrees behind the middle of the field itself.
Why not use the method of magnetic shielding to redirect the north pole farther away from the south pole to reduce the effect? A larger disk may be able to help push it far enough back to minimize the effect enough to continue the rotation for far longer. In effect creating a preferred path for your magnetic field lines that does not intersect the polar opposite effect of the south pole field.
If you could get this to work then you could increase the work you are getting out of it by using multiple discs rather than stationary propellent magnets on the outside, then you would have the power of multiple discs spinning each other...
Just change the poles in time with switching the dc current in one standing magnet.
You are testing it with different weights , so the spins are different
Lets remove the (outer) magnets that youre using to move the magnets in the disk (Ill call it disk magnets)
We'll replace it using another disk magnets
so the force that are pushing/pulling the disk magnets (which are the outer magnets) will be replaced by the "another" dusc magnets
I have more options to do, but a different on what u currently doing
Hope to see you do more cool experiments
I think its better to try it using 3 or more disk magnets
One on the middle, and 2 or more disk magnets surrounding it
Anyone looking to build an experiment? I've got three ideas that I need to test but I don't have the raw materials.
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I tried this idea out with fidget spinners and it sort of worked. The fidget spinners had three arms and on the first spinner I sellotaped a ring(doughnut) magnet to each arm, in a vertical position, so that when the arm was at 12 o'clock the right side of the magnet was always a North. I then stuck three ring magnets flat on the arms of the second fidget spinner so that North was pointing upward. I span the first spinner horizontally anti-clockwise and the second spinner I held next to the right side but in a vertical position spinning clockwise. When they were in synch, the magnet on the second spinner would always be behind the horizontal spinner. So for example, when the first spinner had a magnet at one o'clock, the second spinner would have a magnet at 7 o'clock, then as they repelled each other the bottom horizontal spinner would speed up. The problem was that the vertical spinner had nothing driving it because the repulsion was on the horizontal. The vertical would slow and fall out of sync and then attract to the South of one of the bottom magnets.
I needed for the spinners to stay in sync and thought what if they were flat round cogs beveled at 90 degrees to each other. I could use two magnets per cog and when the vertical cog's magnet pushed the bottom horizontal cog round that would in turn drive the vertical cog.
I got some cogs from a toyset but they were too small and the cog teeth didn't fit very well. I went to the local library but their 3d printer could only do tiny cogs.
So I'm stuck.
I also wanted to try a configuration where the horizontal cog had two magnets but the vertical cog had a magnet in a sort of slide, so that it was always sliding down into position as the cog turned.
Idea 2 - You have a vertical tube that spins around a centre point, it could also be a tube attached to a disc that spins. At either end of the tube are 'balloons' and the whole thing is filled with ferrofluid. At about the 1 or 2 o'clock position, the top balloon goes near a fixed magnet. The magnet starts to pull ferrofluid into the top balloon which expands pulling more of the fluid into it. The balloons are not globe shaped as we don't want them touching the magnet and 'sticking'. The balloons are a flat shape like a blow up mattress and when the top balloon is full it becomes too heavy for the magnet and falls down, which turns the disc and brings the bottom balloon up to the magnet and the whole thing starts again.
This is a very stop start motion but it could be used to power a flywheel. Also, to stop the ferrofluid falling back down the tube as the balloon is nearly full we could have two tubes with one-way valves inside. The tubes would have different flow directions and when the top balloon is first trapped by the magnet we could have a rocker switch which cuts off flow to the down tube and only allows flow through the up tube, which has one-way valves to stop the fluid falling back down. Hopefully this last part won't be necessary. (Got a version of this experiment with water instead of ferrofluid buts that's even more awkward. The balloons are covered with metal discs that get further away from each other as the balloon expands making the balloon less 'metalic'. So the magnets have less hold as the balloon gets heavier and finally drops).
Idea 1- Take a reservoir of ferrofluid and put a glass tube into it. The glass tube is shaped like a walking cane with a curved end. The straight end goes into the ferrofluid, the tube is angled upward at say 45 degrees and a magnet is placed underneath the curved end(the ferrofluid should drop vertically here so the tube should be curved just enough to do this). The tube will need to be full of ferrofluid before the experiment starts. The ferrofluid should be pulled down onto the magnet to form a spikey ball which will get too big for the magnet to support, when this happens the ferrofluid will drip into a second reservoir which is higher than the first. The ferrofluid in the upper reservoir can then be dropped down a tube onto a plastic turbine. To make sure the top reservoir fills up at the same speed as the bottom one does, you could have a thousands of tubes pulling the fluid up for every one downtube powering a turbine. This could be upscaled and built in a disused mine.
But first I need to see if a magnet can pull the ferrofluid up through the walking cane shaped tube.
The bolts and hand screws are metal. The nail is metal. The magnet holders are metal. If you got 18 revolutions without magnets, you should get more with the magnet field in play, even if it doesn't go on for ever. The metal components in this thought experiment could be replaced by plastic. Ty for your time
Bro instead make that fixed position into rotaing then the disk will rotate in opposite direction
The whole system must be out of balance, I would place the magnets on the wheel with one pole to the outside, those repelling with the other pole towards the wheel. 2 magnets driving the wheel should suffice. So that one works right after the other on the wheel, when one is pushing the wheel weakly the other is pushing with full force. When the second begins to weaken, the first repels the magnets on the wheel with full force... External magnets cannot stabilize the system. If this happens, the wheel will stop.
Dejan de gastar dinero y tiempo en diseños que no funcionan ni pueden funcionar. Para hacer un motor magnético primero tienen que encontrar un material que permita hacer que el flujo magnético pase en un sentido y ni en el otro, esto es un DIODO MAGNETICO. Usen todo su dinero, tiempo e imaginación en investigar este tema, el que lo logre ganará mucho dinero, fama y resolverá el problema de la energía para la humanidad.
It'll never work - Eeyore
The angle on the disc magnets is the wrong direction
Gave up? Please continue...
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One problem that I see is that you are using metal bolts so you repulsion is being “counteracted” by the attraction of the metal bolts to the stationary magnets. Try it with plastic bolts.
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I'm pretty sure I have the solution for this magnet rotor for years now.
Maybe you're more of a handyman that I am!
If I do a yt video explaining the plan: would you like to build it?
(I saw a few videos that were close to my concept but mine is better by desing:a lot less energy loss in movement)
Tnx
Hi There, sounds like a good idea... I think it would be a great way to move the channel forward as well - experimenting from viewers suggestions!
Best results - without external magnets.
Cau you try parmanet magnet and pusher magnet electric magnet
The Secret Try disk to disk😁
It becomes gearing. That slips
@@GWAForUTBE What about two tubes one inside the other on a shaft floating
Hard to explain in a msg but tubes have same concept as disk , my thinking is if mag force is circular then work with that conceptual design or flow???
Hi. I'm a hobbyist, not an electrician. I wonder for a long time how such a device and whether it can work? In any case, I have no idea how this is possible, or if it is even possible? I don't know that either. But I would like to know and see the truth. If so, each of us can make a perpetual motion machine👀🤔😀
Is this possible????
However, it seems to me that mathematics and geometry play a great role here. Does anyone know any mathematical formulas or geometry and degrees of inclination of magnets?
Wow can it be this simple, your 3 magnet setup are all set up to push are you sure you don’t need at least one magnet set up to pull or possibly 3 magnets magnets to pull. To offset that week spot that keeps making it stop.
Tem um vídeo CANAL RUSSO, onde mostra movimento contínuo. Posso colocar o link pra vc avaliar.
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It clearly demonstrates that these magnets are slowing down the wheel. Where is the energy going? Whatever you're doing do the opposite instead! These types of motors should either start accelerating by themselves immediately or else only work once they get up to a certain speed. Remember, things that are spinning very fast behave differently. You need some kind of THEORY and PLAN. Each magnet must be deliberately placed for a specific reason!
I have a idea
Whats?
spring sorry
You need steel wire around the magnet to cancel (lessen) the field from the side of the magnets. th-cam.com/video/U8mnrO-gM8s/w-d-xo.html This guy explains it really well.. Hope it helps...
I have a design that would work. please reach out to me if you're interested in building it
I would like to see you experiment with gravity, it works well for the solar system! Requirements for success are patience and imagination and I believe you have both!
Ok, found a seemingly legit video on the magnetic rotational premise. Question is, how do you scale it up to be effective, if attached to an actual motor to generate power? th-cam.com/video/jnWWTWr4hM0/w-d-xo.html
Just ask Santa if he'll bring you one for Christmas.
Congratulations. It is difficult to make it worse than the previous one, but this time, you made it really worse. Keep on that way.
The elastic trigger is big deal. And there isn’t any gain in rotations. As expected. Nice execution. Maybe the pseudo scientists will get the point
Perhaps brass screws holding the magnets
information good work 4:28 but, have non-magnetic fasteners been used on the rotor.? have you seen the 'ocal' rotor configuration. d
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Here's a secret tip. If it was possible for magnetsmuc force to input energy into the system with the right setup, you would not need to spin it. See how, before you spin it, the wheel sits there so still. It's because it's found an equilibrium, which is the opposite of energy. Energy is the change in state. It is always seeking equilibrium, but never finds it, because energy is change. The moment equilibrium has been found, all energy has been depleted from the system. Only an change in the system or an outside source can cause energy to return to it.
So, if you can build a machine out of magnets that cannot sit still, then you've done it. If you need to add energy at all, the system will simply seek equilibrium as soon as friction depletes the energy you introduce.
The biggest problem with magnets as sources of energy is that their fields are constant, unchanging, thus they have no energy.
Electric generators only work while the magnet, and it's field, are being moved by some outside energy source oast coils of wire. All it is doing is converting kinetic energy to electric.
Look at gravity and the rain. We generate power from hydro dams using gravity. Still, gravity is useless as a power source, because it never changes. In reality, the sun lifts the water, keeps it up over the land, and finally let's it drop on the land. Then gravity returns it, but the sun gave it the potential energy to turn into kenetic energy in the hydro dam. So, in reality, hydro power isn't a source of gravity power, but solar power.
In the same way, any system using magnets is going to need to be combined with an actual energy source to even maintain motion.
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