*TESTED* Is the all-new Lexus RZ 450e the Luxury EV we've been waiting for?
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The first electrified #lexus was back in 2004 as the RX400h. Fast forward nearly two decades and Lexus is finally rolling out their first battery electric vehicle, the RZ450e. Is this the ultimate Lexus we've been waiting for!? - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
Lexus Rz goes 0-60 in 4.92 seconds. That's good enough for me.
I think you're right, a lot of us either work from home or have hybrid schedules. So the 'let's play the efficiency game' may not be as prevalent with most RZ owners. I am so glad the throttle response is this good! Like Chris, when I saw the BZ's numbers my reaction was not very positive, mainly because I knew there would be a Lexus variant. I'm stoked to see more, thanks for posting Kirk!
Thanks for watching!
This ultimate Lexus??! Are you joking or what?! ROFL
The interior is clean 😍
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Behind in what exactly?
@@yousef.al-assaf behind in every way. Design materials elegance
LOL no it’s not. Your fanboyism has failed
@naveenthemachine
It's better in materials, build quality, fit and finish than all of its competitors if this interior is on par with the new RX
@@yousef.al-assaf but it’s below the gv60 gv70 gv80
I think this car will definitely appeal to Toyota/Lexus loyalists in much the same way the Cadillac Lyriq appeals to Caddy/GM fans. But for those not already in the club, the spec sheet will make it a tough sell I suspect. Which is fine because they aren't planning to produce very many of them. I'm sure they'll have no problem selling everything that comes off the line.
seems like most people don't like this car or it's looks, but personally I think this is the best looking Lexus since the LC500 (honorable mention to the is500)
I'm very excited for their new design language
I honestly think it is one of the most appealing in the segment
I agree. I overall find this car impressive.
Wow, my opinion has changed on this vehicle because of this video! Well done!
100% Lexus 👍, thanks Kirk 😀.
Toyota needs that new ev platform yesterday
It's stunning no lie at all but I just hope Lexus knows what they are doing. I really want to switch to EV after my UX hybrid. The NX plug-in did not catch my attention but the RZ does since the RX is too big and expensive. If Lexus can offer a single motor variant (220-250hp), a bit more range, and a price tag that is appealing then I will be sold. I can't stomach $60K+ for what the RZ450e offers compared to the competition. Let's hope Lexus is reading and listening to comments...give us a RZ300 to give us a choice between a single or dual motor and price tag.
I will order when it’s launched in my country looks great Kirk. I drive about 150km a day out of town so the Range is no issue for me. It will mean charging at home 2.5 times a week. Versus putting in petrol on my ICE Lexus costing me triple the cost of fuel.
Hi Kirk, I have to say, this is one of best reviews you’ve done. I really learned a lot and have a great sense of the vehicle now. The EV range and charging time is a concern, but it’s nice that there truly is Luxury alternative to Tesla now.
Wow, thanks!
Great collab with Chris! Yeah I know it wasn't really a planned collab but really enjoyed it..🙂
Had this weather yesterday. It’s gotta be the worst kind of weather for reviewing.😂 The car looks very luxurious. Thanks for bringing Chris.
Great review Kirk. Looks like Lexus made an under rated EV. The competition in the luxury EV sector is charging up. With some offering better range and faster charging, the RZ might be overlooked. This might get Lexus by until a dedicated EV platform is established.
Thanks mate! Yes this is a stop-gap until 2026. They have most of what makes an EV down, now just more range, FSP models, improved charging.
When I watch your EV coverage and you get into range, charging, efficiency, etc., I have to remind myself you're almost always somewhere warm.
Yes. I need to keep in mind that my cases are usually best-case
@@KirkKreifels Not your fault certainly: you can only report your experience. It is something those of us in colder places have to keep in mind. Where I live (mid-Atlantic coast) I'm seeing a range hit of ~25% during the coldest periods, and the couple times I used public DCFC the output was ~50-60% of nominal. (I only very rarely charge away from home, and my car doesn't do a very good job of preconditioning.)
My comment was more a reminder to the audience to keep these factors in mind than it was a criticism of your content.
Lexus should have kept the "Shrek-ear" drive mode selector 😄
Beautiful car thanks for your video take care bye
I'm a fan of you both, and your various channels, so I enjoyed your two person review. I did not know about DMsound, I will check it out.
I am a very happy '23 RX 350L owner, and the quality of the Mark Levinson audio was one of the reasons I bought it. Yeah, I see it as an electric RX, bring its virtues of luxury/refinement/convenience to an EV. In fact, the additional silence and refinement improve on those virtues.
The range is a con, but seemingly a choice by Lexus. Perhaps they see their market as non-road-tripping commuters and retirees?
Thanks to both of you, and happy travels.
Thanks!
All negativity on here. Either you gone buy it or not. Many complaining can't even afford it and will never buy it but yet still complain. So what the range is low and Tesla is higher. The built quality and luxurious features Tesla can't even compare to it. Tesla been running that same boring interior and plain looking exterior style forever.
Good example of negativity, but then, competition is the best thing for buyers' choice.
Agreed lol. 😂
Excellent
I sold my Lexus nx and went to a Hyundai. I can’t wait to go back. Everything on my Hyundai is glitchy and horrible and the after service is terrible - I’ve given up! Everything on a Lexus is so reliable, perfect build quality and service is amazing…. Why is everyone concerned about range? No one is mentioning the Audi etron has the same?
I have a 2022 Audi Etron and the range sucks there as well. So we’re not suppose to worry about the Lexus range unless we admit the Audi range also sucks?
I am surprised that they don't have a dedicate button to change the driving mode like most Toyota's have.
Waiting for electric Lexus sedan, something equivalnt to IS or ES in size
2026 for the is and no news for the es yet
Hello Kirk, thanks for the review. I don't understand why Lexus has all their press cars at 20" wheel, with 18" is at a wltp range of 440 km or 220-222 miles. In addition will the 18" wheels also give a more comfortable ride and less road noise. Best regards Arne from Norway
love the non leather seats.... wish they would offer it in NX/RX as well.... when i see that steering wheel - beautiful, forget the joke yoke....
Great review, just a question what your view is about the centre console display below the air vents why not do like the have done on the NX and RX have the vents below and give a better position less movement of your eyes and head to reach it
I didn't bother me. Maybe in Florida where I need more AC I can better comment
I think Toyota/Lexus need to have good lease rates for this to make it sell. I dont see it as a long-term car to keep. Toyota/Lexus generally have good financing, so lease deals could put them above competitors.
Agreed, not to mention they are offering that available 30-day loaner vehicle to owners up to 3 years. Hopefully, they can offer competitive lease deals. I was paying $480/mo for my hybrid, for an EV my max would be $600 so Lexus will have to really market this appropriately.
In the market for a new car and decided to go with an EV this time. Have a Lyriq preordered since May 2022 and depending on how much more it's delayed (hearing Q4 2023 or early 2025 delivery now), might just go with the RZ instead...assuming it isn't similarly delayed.
The range and lack of EV tax credit qualification hurts and definitely brings it to a trailing 2nd place compared to the Lyriq, but overall do dig basically everything else of the vehicle.
I love this vehicle’s styling. Lexus knows what they’re doing HOWEVER, I believe they’ll have a higher range option and 200mile the range is laughable. Already obsolete and it just came out 🤦🏾
Considering the weather, how was rear visibility without a rear windshield wiper?
I didn't have any visibility concerns but come winter 🤷♂️
I think it’s nice!
Lexus design top notch. Even when other companies like BMW and Infiniti try to copy it doesn't move because with that L badge attached it's just proper.
How is that compare with the Model Y??
If you want instant torque should have picked up an accord 2.0 while you could and put ktuner on it XD
Its really anything 300lbft or higher that really moves, I have felt that "instant" feeling from many cars that aren't EV's, take any V8 for example, its just instant jump in speed.
V8.???...............Great for Our future...........Dream on...................Paul
@@paulholterhaus7084 V8s are the best powertrain. Toyota/Lexus 1UZ and 2UR/3UR are the most reliable powertrains that they ever made. This little battery will be shot by 200k miles or 10 years.
I love the look of the vehicle. However, given the price and the shorter range, a better electric vehicle would be the upcoming RX 450H if it falls within the same price range. The electric range will be shorter but still good enough for daily driving without range anxiety always on your mind.
Beautiful SUV! just make it a good old-fashioned gas operated vehicle and I would get one!!
Santa Claus: What would little Kirk want for xmas?
Kirk: bust out excel sheet
Disappointed you didn't drive the yoke steer by wire version. Autogeuful drove it and thought it was the future of steering but the regular steering also is quite good. I think this is a very nice car but Lexus missed withe range/charging speed. I think this will be addressed and a more acceptable battery range will follow in a newer version. I think this interior really works, especially the dash.
I did. Who said I have just one video?
@@KirkKreifels Ah! OK, more to look forward to.
If I get the Marky Mark system, do I have to listen to boy bands? I hope not...
⚡️🔥⚡️hello, Kirk
Good morning son goku
@@KirkKreifels
Smooth ride, if they added the Drive by Wire, the RZ would most likely gain mileage, right?
Less emphasis on 0-60 and more on range would've been far better for my purposes. After all, it's a family hauler 99% of the time, while being a red light racer 1% of the time. Not quite ripe for picking yet IMHO.
As I’ve said before, I wish Toyota would share the better looks of Lexus exteriors with their Toyota releases. I guess it’s similar to VW and Audi.
Love it. Just wish you could actually get one? Sort of a Lexus fantasy to try to their customers thinking they will somehow be able to keep up with Tesla.
Hi Kirk,
Excellent video I just think in my opinion that we are a long long way until we have a vehicle that at least could go 500+ miles on a charge then when we get to that point I will probably wait for one that has 750+ to 1000+ Miles on a charge and that’s not going to be for about 10 to 15 years maybe longer also to I am waiting for the infrastructure which is going to take many many years to occupy at each gas station a charger and the way things are in this economy it’s probably going to take anywhere from between 10 and 20 years to do that Anyway it’s good to see Lexus is on the map with the wonderful vehicle but I think this is a great car if you’re going to live in Rhode Island but if you’re going to live in California, Texas, Florida states that are large in stature this is not the vehicle or any of the electric vehicles for that matter because there’s not enough electrical outlets to charge at anyway great video keep up the good work Kirk….
So is it true you lose 20 mile range by choosing the 20” wheels vs 18”? And is it true the max mph is 99? So many rumors..
Range and charging time.
Ok, I know Lexus buyers that switch to Tesla, anyway, if the RZ 450e offered better range, I think Lexus would be shocked how well it could do, but with its range, can Lexus really justify its starting price and one wonders, how it would do with a lower starting price, overall, I would rank it, behind the Tesla Model Y (better EV in every way, note I said EV), next, the Cadillac Lyriq (one of Cads best model to date and feel worth its price), following the BMW iX (a problem, you have to look at it and dark colors look better) and next the Mercedes EQE SUV (I would wait for it), this may be a stretch, but I have the RZ 450e tied with the Audi e-tron (or upcoming 2024 Q8 e-tron, the name change), crazy but both of these EVs suffer the same problem, range, as for the Genesis GV60 (it's too small, enough said), I know Audi has the Q4 e-tron (it's fine, but wasn't a fan of the VW ID.4, so), I kind of always pull for Lexus or Cadillac vs the Germans, one would ask why didn't Lexus offer quicker charging and a larger battery pack, overall, it's what I expected from the first Lexus EV, given the fact Toyoyta's not a big EV fans
$65K? Similar price to Tesla Model Y? Enthusiast drivers may want Track Mode controls.
110 mile range is hard to accept for the price. Don’t care how nice the interior looks , range is extremely important.
Pretty good first effort. Range is disappointing. Styling exterior and interior is a bit generic old Lexus looking. No rear wiper? Does it have voice commands? Tesla 1 button voice commands are great, you dont have touch the screen.
Shouldn't this steering wheel be different?
I noticed that too. On the main Lexus website they have been advertising the car with a different steering yoke.
This was my first choice for a new EV until I read about the range. No thanks Lexus, here in So. Cal are so spread out, a low range of 200 miles if reachable is simply just not going to cut it for me. Perhaps next year the Lexus will get a larger battery instead.
Won’t happen. Lexus said this platform can’t handle a bigger battery
What a shame, currently eyeing NX450+ PHEV.
@@Mr-ev5cr the guy above you is capping hard. A bigger battery is possible.
@@LucasFR11 Thanks! good to know.
Please How much
Starts at $60k
Land of a thousand Land Cruisers…
I can’t I never heard so many excuses for poor range my gt has over 577 and I am getting 215 in normal mode easy.
I still think the price and range are not aligned. All the interior niceties don't make up for the reality of the poor range. It is in Nissan Leaf range. Really,, what is point of this vehicle? It will have to be charged daily. At $67K I do not see it selling in high numbers. The UX 250 hybrid is $25,000 less..
Only 4900 units for 2023 in usa
Quality is great but the range will be the downfall for this model. As much I like this car, I am not seduced to get a car that still does up to 300 miles range in 2023! Lexus should have pushed for 400 miles plus to be a serious contender such as Tesla. Shame as I feel maybe there will be a newer version with better battery cells in 1-2 years. Also if they could find a way to charge the car much quicker than any other cars would really a major selling point. Shame because it is otherwise a nice car. But overall it is a car on sale today with technology of other vehicles already on sale in comparison. This is not good enough in my opinion. Lexus must step up if it wants to compete with Tesla. It would be great if the infotainment system could be updated wirelessly like Tesla so the technology advances to improve car features and safety. To me, Lexus is already too late introducing this car. Shame, as I really love Lexus as a brand and I drive a fairly new ES300h (had a GS450h Luxury before). I may opt for another Hybrid NX 450+ or RX450+ instead of RZ450e, as potential replacement within a year or 2...
Honestly, I was pretty sold with 225 range. My job is 15 miles from my house, I could go to work and back all week on electric and have plenty left to zip around town. Lexus offering the loaner option too, will help with any range anxiety, won't have to put miles on the RZ, and just leave it at home charging ready when I return from a trip. The price tag is what is turning me away.
@Will Nye I see your point. To me if we need to do a day trip for holiday and go somewhere, I don't fancy having to plan and stop the journey half way to charge the battery. Many EV stations in UK, are not properly serviced. So you are gambling on this. Massive set back. Unlike Tesla, they have their own charging infrastructure. I wish Lexus could do the same! Yes price is high too. But on the positive side, you get a 10 year warranty and so you can confidently say that the batteries are made excellent quality to retain their full capacity for much longer so value of the car will be sustainable and better than many other EVs. Shame they did not show something exceptional with range
@@nickregnier1 understandable, it's not going to be for everyone. Where I live a lot of grocery stores have charger stations on a roadtrip, I see it as stopping by for snacks, proper bathroom break, and any last minute things that are needed. A quick 15-20 min pit stop to charge too so about a 40% charge to get to the next or final destination would be more than enough.
@@willnye9788 What do you think the car should cost?
@@benjaminsmith2287 Good question, I would address it like this that the RZ slots between the NX and RX. The Plug-in NX is way better than the RZ in terms of overall performance ($58K+) so that variant is out of the question and the NX350h is not up to par with the RZ. Therefore I would conclude a base price for the RZ between $53-60K with two different electrical motors to give consumers a choice between power or range. I think because it has over 300 hp is what sets it back versus making an affordable efficient EV.
Countdown to new Tacoma ?
Why did Lexus think the range is expectable ???
Because Lexus is stupid. That’s why 😂. They’re trying to fool us with their pathetic marketing stunts
From what I heard is that most RZ customers will not need much range and that Lexus will offer free loaners so the RZ can just stay home. For me the range is plenty for my daily commute to work and keep in mind a much lower cost to charge if it has a lower range since the battery is only 71.4 kWh.
I think only UT reviewer sreally care about the drive mode switch. We all know that it is nothing more than adjusting throttle response and maybe traction control - no magic button of power waiting to be untapped. AI think Lexus knows most of us that by this class of car don't really obsessive on trying to make it sporty like. In my case, my long past of sporty drive mode cars by default ( BMW and Audi) is long pass. I just want something that start everyday and few visits to the repairs shop now. Been there done that. LOL
Waiting for what?? To be stuck in the middle of the highway on the way to mom's house because this thing has about 100 miles of range??
Chris, you give directions like my wife... 95% wrong or late. Thank god for NAVI!!
This thing is DOA for me. 71kW battery? At those prices? Say wah!!!???
How is 200 mile range acceptable...huge fail for lexus imo
It's acceptable fr those charging it daily. My electric provider has EV specific plans that offer free elctricity between 12pm-2pm and that would work great for me
@Leslie Carter it might work for people that never leave their home city and surrounding areas. But for people who travel often stopping to charge up every 2.5 hours is just not reasonable. Also keep in mind these range estimates are in perfect conditions. If you live in a northern state where weather is colder your range will be decreased drastically. When the competition is over over 300 miles, 200 just doesn't cut it. Not sure why lexus and Toyota are going this route with their ev's.
Do you drink 200 miles in one day? I doubt it
@Leslie Carter that would be fine if this vehicle fit into the cheaper category but starting at 60k this is a failure.
@ROMAIRO BLACKSTOCK I don't drink 1 mile a day let alone 200
So Toyota developed a higher level of safety: a car that needs two operators, driver and co-driver. Amazing!
Tesla owners are laughing at the range and the tech…
While Lexus owners are laughing at build quality and refinement of Teslas
Crappy electric Ford only has the gimmicks to boast about. Other than the range, everything is better in the Lexus!
Sensible and decent Tesla owners (which are most) aren't. The steer by wire yoke version makes the system on the Tesla look archaic.
Actually Toyota just announced they bought a Tesla and tore it apart and were very impressed with some of the aspects of the engineering
As far as reliability and build quality…..I’d be buying a Toyota.
As far as EV….I don’t care who makes it. Not a chance.
Edit: Toyota didn’t announce it. Someone said they did.
@@americandude3825 They didn't announce that. That was a story that said a "source" came up with those comments from unnamed Toyota engineers. I do think they were impressed with some aspects, especially from a cost perspective.
Nope, just deliver my NX350H,, TIRED OF WAITING!
Great review! Very dissapointing Range! The price of a fill-up compared to a TESLA, and Tesla's infrastructure Dams the DEAL! Sorry Lexus...
is this a sponsored vehicle? lol
Lexus is known for their electrical issues, now they made an EV
Talk about the range lol is a joke 😂😂😂
Nobody watches you harder than your haters
lol
Kirk doesn't have haters. You're thinking of toyota. Try again.
when companies can't innovate they go for gimmicks
Terrible car. Why would you want to drive fwd ev ? 🤦🏻♂️
At this point the GV60 is a much better choice
Lexus/Toyota doesn’t take EVs seriously, so this SUV is nice, but you can tell it’s half ass effort by Lexus.🙂
How have they not?? They have one of the most HEV selection in their lineup. Did you forget about the Prius that's been around forever? They've been in the EV game just not full electric because they always play it safe.
@@christenorio7460 Toyota has been advocating against EVs for many years because they want to keep selling their hybrids. Toyota makes best hybrids, but their EVs are junk. Wheels are falling off 👎👎👎
@@zemo2332 Please stop the nonsense about the wheels falling off and what Toyota has said about BEVs. That's history. And the wheels never fell off a customer's car like they did with Teslas. So why people bring this up is beyond me. Toyota/Lexus spent a lot of time on the sustainable materials in this car. They spent a lot of time on the variable steer by wire. They spent time putting radiant heating in it. They spent time on getting the noise levels down to Lexus standards. To say they didn't is just bunk. People need to stop looking at only range and charging and look at other aspects of BEVs. Toyota/Lexus said they want to preserve battery life and that's why they don't offer the range and charging speed of other cars. Agree or not but it isn't that they don't take BEV seriously. They wouldn't have made all the moves to make them if they didn't. They even changed CEOs.
@@benjaminsmith2287 You are entitled to your own opinion, but everyone knows that Toyota is anti EVs. Everyone except you of course.
@@zemo2332 They aren't antii-EV. That's a fallacy. They aren't all-in on *just* BEVs being in the future. FCEVs are hydrogen EVs. Toyota isn't anti FCEVs, they're one of the earliest to make an FCEV car and they're in their second generation. You may say hydrogen isn't going to work but my point is they aren't anti-that form of EV.
BEVs still have the issue of cost for manufacturers to build, the high carbon footprint to build, the mining conditions in certain areas, and more. And hydrogen is not without its issues as well. While I like and support BEVs, I think people should still have a choice to drive hybrids with reduced emissions as well as BEVs if they can. And the infrastructure for BEVs still isn't developed in many markets. Plus, Toyota is in the "developing" countries of Asia and Africa much more so than other makes and they'll need to provide hybrid and gas cars to those markets. And, the infrastructure isn't great for BEVs in Japan so you don't see any Japanese company going BEV only. So, I think you have it wrong about Toyota being anti-EV and there far more people than me that do research to try to figure out Toyota and some other Japanese makers position on them.
It's ugly
toyota, the contrast of tesla. fancy but poor engineering
I dare you Lexus fangirls to justify why this ev is amazing.
The fact is that you can’t. Even if you try we’ll quickly call you out
İt's crap with a laughable range
Lexus Rz goes 0-60 in 4.92 seconds. That's good enough for me.