Lexus just UPGRADED the 2024 RZ450e Electric Crossover // Now the best luxury EV to buy?!

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  • @KirkKreifels
    @KirkKreifels  ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Just got confirmation that RZ300e will have 266 mi EPA!

    • @avdp9095
      @avdp9095 ปีที่แล้ว

      425km.....not competitive...again.... . Very worried about furure Lexus Bev's.
      The RZ had very, very bad reviews all over Europe, and almost no sales.
      The imago damage regarding Bz4x/ Rz is on par with VW's dieselgate.... .
      And they still not get it?

    • @mrgurulittle7000
      @mrgurulittle7000 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@avdp9095Relax. It’s a niche vehicle, like all the other BEVs.

    • @avdp9095
      @avdp9095 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@mrgurulittle7000😂😂yes thanks, you're right. It is just a car.
      That said, pur local Lexus dealer is not enthusiastic at all about the RZ...., he sold just 1 car.... .
      Gladly we will have the hybrid LBX, 2nd quarter of 24... .

    • @mrgurulittle7000
      @mrgurulittle7000 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@avdp9095You’re right. I’d take a hybrid Lexus any day too.

    • @sueddo2634
      @sueddo2634 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@avdp9095 Yeah this car is just mediocre at every trim level. Here in Bellevue, Lexus cars sell like hot cakes (we have market adjustments for base model RX's lmao) and literally no one wants the RZ. Used premium trim RZ's with literally 300-400 miles are selling 30k below original MSRP.

  • @susancurtis3331
    @susancurtis3331 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    We leased two 2024 RZ 300e. We love them! We live in Southern California and presently there's a $16,500 cash rebate on leases until July 31, 2024. Good review - thank you.

  • @YepYep74
    @YepYep74 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I’m in the uk and waiting for my luxury rz 450e on a 2 year lesse. Fantastic deal. I could not miss the deal to get into such a premium car. What updates should be included with car. Will I get the percentage for battery ? And will I be getting extra range ? Or are these updates only fir the rz300e? Thanks for the great video .

  • @arnegerhardsen3755
    @arnegerhardsen3755 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hello Kirk, thanks for many good reviews. I'm sorry that I'm a little critical now, but you might have done some guessing by using old results after the tests before the software updates in the comparison against the new FWD Lexus model with results from the new and updated software. I think they have increased the range a lot with higher efficiency after their software and system update. Because in the road test with the Norwegian Electric Car Assosiation, (which was one of the most critical before the updates) where they drove the opdated sister model of Lexus, Toyota bz4x and got a real range of aprox 500 km with a consumption of 1,3 Kw per 10 km. The drive was along with an Nissan Ariya which as normal had some higher consumption also in this road test. Toyota bz4x was also the best car in two typical winter-conditions tests carried out by El-Car 24 (they were very critical to bz4x in 2022) together with some of the most common electric awd family cars on the Norwegian market. Toyota bz4x has been one of the best selling cars on the Norwegian market from the second half of 2023 and now in january 2024. I wish you a nice spring! Best regards from Arne in Norway

  • @anthonymitchell9337
    @anthonymitchell9337 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I live in the Wash DC area and the RZ(s) are just sitting on dealers' lots. Dealers are already starting to mark down the price. I'm a Lexus fan but highly disappointed in this product.

    • @avdp9095
      @avdp9095 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Same in the Netherlands. No sales for the RZ, a year on the market and only 17 cars sold.....in a year....unbelievable. Lexus in the Netherlands does not even do advertising, 0.
      They know it is a beliw average EV so why spend money on advertising.... .
      And all due to the lack of range and charging speed.
      It is actually a very nice car to drive, ultra fast and very silent, well build quality car. But that range.....😢😢😢😢

    • @deplorablechump8758
      @deplorablechump8758 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Totally agreed

  • @kevinyu9645
    @kevinyu9645 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I would be fine with the RZ if they give me a huge discount like I heard some of yall be getting

    • @BonanzaPilot
      @BonanzaPilot 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      capitalized cost for a new one right now should be right at 40k

  • @jamiu22
    @jamiu22 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kirk, i can confirm that the battery gauge percentage has been fixed - just got ours with the 20" wheel for $43k (15k lease incentive and 5k off MSRP)...Range is 200miles, but its our 2nd car...and only cost 4k more than an Accord touring....absolute steal for its luxury/comfort with all the bells and whistles.

    • @seannguyen593
      @seannguyen593 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bought or lease?

    • @jamiu22
      @jamiu22 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@seannguyen593 leased, but will be paying it off within the next 2 months....that's the only way to get that extra 15k lease incentive....if you buy it, the dealers wanted us to pay $58k (not worth it for the limited range imho - but a steal at $43k)....also confirmed with the finance office about early lease buyout option w/o penalties.

    • @seannguyen593
      @seannguyen593 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jamiu22 what is your residual value? How did you get to only $43k total buyout? What is your monthly and down? I’m trying to do the same thing like you but the number still pretty high.

    • @jamiu22
      @jamiu22 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@seannguyen593 yeah, no worries... that 43k isn't the out the door price...I did put money down, including fees (even though people say not to on leases; added fees included acq fee, title, registration, doc fee etc, also paid tax on the 15k lease incentive). Residual value was calculated at $31.3k after lease end (3yrs later)....and monthly payment is roughly $570 with a higher APR/MF and adjusted cap cost of about 40k...but like i mentioned, we plan on paying it off within 2 months cash or finance via my personal credit union to avoid paying the outrageous MF...if i can pay it off in 2 months, cost should be the 40k, plus residual tax on that....

  • @willnye9788
    @willnye9788 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm actually glad Lexus brought this one to us because I have the 450e Premium and the range has been the biggest downfall to many of us owners. I'm making 150 miles of range (80% charge) last about 3 days for me for my daily commute but it is not suitable for everyone. This extra bump in range and the improvement to charging in colder temps will be interesting to see. 266 miles granted is not up to par with the competition but this seems more than enough if you charge at appropriate times. I currently get 200 miles at 100% charge and those extra 60 miles would really help with my daily commute and mini road trips. Hopefully, Lexus still offer the 30 days of loaner vehicles still for the 300e looking forward to seeing the reviews. Thanks again for the update and information.

  • @arnegerhardsen3755
    @arnegerhardsen3755 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    We will get the Lexus RZ300e in Norway in mai/junei. It's no problem with the guessometer in RZ now, but I don't understand anyone will use 20" wheels because the consunption is much higherq, the 18" wheels also has better comfort and don't wear out the tires so fast with lower tire cost. With the 18" RZ450e in our driving the range is looking good in real range. Toyota bz4x was the best ev in two wintertests in Norway and is among the best selling evs in Norway. You must remember that not every markets has the driving a ross the states like you have in the US. When the handling and comfort is more importent, and by us many people don't need more range, and why driving around with the battery weight for 650 km if you may be one time would like to drive such a distance.

  • @robertwarren20
    @robertwarren20 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The RZ450e is perfect for me. With current technology I would not want to take any EV on a long road trip until solid state batteries get here. In my opinion, that is still the domain for gas or hybrid cars.

  • @pan4632
    @pan4632 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    solid state can't come soon enough. With lexus ditching the V8 and V6, their current powertrain options (hev, bev) are kinda underwhelming

  • @gerryc1575
    @gerryc1575 ปีที่แล้ว

    Furiously going through Kirks back catalogue to see where the denso inverter roadmap was featured, this looks to be 2 years early?

  • @rishinarang9966
    @rishinarang9966 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I would be fine with a 300e awd and around 280 mi on a charge

  • @latinlovermgr
    @latinlovermgr ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a Lexus RZ450e and I do 467 kilometers! and I have a 10 year or 1 million kilometer battery warranty! and it's a luxury car!!! Now, for example, a Tesla is a cheap plastic car with a battery... horrible! I still don't understand why they say Tesla is good... it charges faster? but you can't do more than 3 fast charges per week so you don't lose your guarantee! and have more autonomy! So a Tesla is a battery on wheels? I prefer my Lexus!!! luxury car! phenomenal guarantee! It just shows the excellent quality of the car! I don't do 550 kilometers but I walk 1 million kilometers rested and in a luxury car!! but today they only care about autonomy! and the rest? quality.. luxury.. comfort..

    • @fredericmarcotte4312
      @fredericmarcotte4312 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You were able to do 467 km with one charge ????? The most I was able to get during summer was 400km on Range Mode. For the winter I'm able to get MAYBE 200km of range if I'm in ECO Mode. I love my RZ for the comfort, but for the range and charging time, it's real garbage. More and more I regret buying it.

    • @latinlovermgr
      @latinlovermgr 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@fredericmarcotte4312 if you want i send picturs with autonomi

    • @latinlovermgr
      @latinlovermgr 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@fredericmarcotte4312 if you want i send picturs of my autonomi

  • @wayneh1562
    @wayneh1562 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    looks good to me

  • @Kellric7
    @Kellric7 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love Lexus, love the design of the RZ, it's even quite nice to drive (unless you want to drive in a sporty way), but the range AND recharge (especially by cold weather) are ridiculous for the price. Any BEV that cost 20k EUR less is better on those aspects. And sadly it's really a dealbreaker for me and for most people in Europe, as I've never seen a single one on the road here. They dropped prices by 10000 EUR since the launch but that's not even enough. I'm really sad as I'd love to buy it if it had decent range (say 500 km WLTP).

  • @twanjr
    @twanjr ปีที่แล้ว

    Can we get a video on why you don’t like the RX? I think May of us feel the same way.

  • @Javonn143_
    @Javonn143_ ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It’s sad to say but the RZ and all the vehicles on that platform are half-assed, not competitive and worse, expensive. I wonder which one will be cancelled first.

  • @JogBird
    @JogBird ปีที่แล้ว

    is regen braking better w front drive?

    • @KirkKreifels
      @KirkKreifels  ปีที่แล้ว

      Don't think so. Braking distance should reduce w/ 220 lbs less weight

  • @davidgillham6847
    @davidgillham6847 ปีที่แล้ว

    So much for Lexus Electrified... Seriously though this vehicle just isn't competitive enough for the price point, next!

  • @michaelvella8511
    @michaelvella8511 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Why din't they make it a hybrid for now ????

    • @ggukilledit
      @ggukilledit ปีที่แล้ว +1

      they have the rx

  • @pan4632
    @pan4632 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am nervous for the upcoming IS bev...hope it is better than the RZ

    • @thtupid
      @thtupid ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm hopeful as well but I doubt it would be anywhere near the byd seal or model 3 in terms of performance.

    • @avdp9095
      @avdp9095 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm worried too, if it is an average Bev as well with the same specs as the Bz4x and RZ, than Lexus will be finished in Europe.... .

  • @tocreatee3585
    @tocreatee3585 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lorraine Explains: Ontario man quoted $50,000 to replace an EV battery
    His warranty just ran out, leaving him with two options: pay up or scrap the vehicle
    Author of the article:Lorraine Sommerfeld
    Published Nov 27, 2023 • Last updated 3 days ago • 5 minute read

    • @victoro6331
      @victoro6331 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ya on a Hyundai LOL Lexus is not Hyundai

    • @seanh2390
      @seanh2390 ปีที่แล้ว

      plus it was a wildly inaccurate quote provided by someone who did not know what they are doing. very lazy journalism on the part of Sommerfeld.

    • @byhsu6140
      @byhsu6140 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would pick up the NX350h instead of the RZ.

  • @LeoTheShortGuy
    @LeoTheShortGuy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cool

  • @jrwaters943
    @jrwaters943 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I saw one of these on the road yesterday and they look so good. Sadly, they are still among the worst vehicles you can buy for the $.

  • @mrgurulittle7000
    @mrgurulittle7000 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’d rather have the gas one. The 450e is an oddball because Lexus customers are mostly those who want gas cars. And the range isn’t that great either. It’ll be great as a second car though.

    • @jamiu22
      @jamiu22 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's absolutely correct, with the current 15k lease incentive and MSRP discount ~$5k...the RZ is a steal for its luxury, comfort, 10yr battery warrantee....even with its 200 mile range on 20" wheel (confirmed with my wifes car - a great 2nd car for us).

    • @mrgurulittle7000
      @mrgurulittle7000 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jamiu225k off indeed is a steal.

  • @tinhinnh
    @tinhinnh ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i thought they’re offering up to $15k off on these

    • @mikethepups7742
      @mikethepups7742 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Got ours a few months ago for $48,000 + TTL. The MSRP was $63,000 - $10,000 Lexus Lease Cash - $4,000 Dealer Discount - $1,000 Military Discount. It’s been a great around-town car and we use our NX300h for longer trips. Plus we get 30-days of free Lexus loaners during the first 3-years if we want something for travel.

    • @sueddo2634
      @sueddo2634 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mikethepups7742 I think 48k is a great price for the RZ. Congrats!

  • @IgneousEuro
    @IgneousEuro ปีที่แล้ว

    $15,000 lease cash right now on RZs

  • @erictate8986
    @erictate8986 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Lexus needs more Gas and Hybrid vehicles , and don't just get caught up on EV'S only because not everyone is going to buying EV'S period !!

    • @avdp9095
      @avdp9095 ปีที่แล้ว

      In Europe we have to.....in 2025, in rhe Netherlands, business cars have to be 100% EV .... if you like it or not...

  • @GodsloveMuzik
    @GodsloveMuzik ปีที่แล้ว

    599km is 372.2 miles not 330 Miles. It’s a Toyota. I HIGHLY DOUBT THAT NUMBER IS ACCURATE.

  • @Lexus_By_Alberto
    @Lexus_By_Alberto ปีที่แล้ว

    Bring back the CT ev

  • @jpdoc5722
    @jpdoc5722 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    RAV4-Prime is better value 😊👍

    • @cbotten106
      @cbotten106 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If you can find one for sticker, sure. With dealer market adjustments, maybe not.

  • @PatrickWilliamsI
    @PatrickWilliamsI ปีที่แล้ว

    It is not competitive. This does not live up to Toyota/Lexus exceptional standard. If you want an EV, get a Tesla. If you want a hybrid or internal combustion car, get a Toyota or Lexus.

  • @PTYC933
    @PTYC933 ปีที่แล้ว

    Toyota is right to bypass the ev revolution. Leave it to tesla and Hyundai and Chinese automakers to trash it out. Realistically how are you going to compete with the likes of seal performance, 500 plus bhp for not much money.
    Hybrids are plenty awesome in their own right, now that everyone is on board with the idea of performance hybrids. 300hp+ cars with the mileage of an older 2 liter car. Plenty good, cheap power. And hybrids do 600 miles on a tank.

  • @aeronYTco
    @aeronYTco ปีที่แล้ว

    The range is still on the low side

  • @uludak8468
    @uludak8468 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    toyota is experienced with hybrids but amateurs with EVs

    • @KirkKreifels
      @KirkKreifels  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah for now.

    • @avdp9095
      @avdp9095 ปีที่แล้ว

      They are not but not interested in bev 1.0.....they were and are developing bev 2.0 , see the recent Japan mobility show.... .
      Only Tesla has good EV'S and some Chinese brands and Kia/ Hyundai...the rest is awful.

  • @truyentruong9015
    @truyentruong9015 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    $18 - 20k more for a LEXUS vs a TOYOTA?
    No thanks, ill stick to the toyota. And I'll take the RAV4 Prime over the BZX4 since it gets me farther and faster with a 5.5 0-60 time.

  • @deplorablechump8758
    @deplorablechump8758 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Test drove it. Toyota/Lexus is stuck in the past. Not good. Short range and expensive. $61k + fees and taxes? No way

  • @Yormsane
    @Yormsane ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lexus needs to re-work the controls and instruments in their current range of SUVs. These customers aren't 'tech bros', and don't want to do battle with screens and infuriating tech just to change the heater fan speed. A FWD 300-mile EV powertrain would be a good addition, but the importance of a familiar, user-friendy driving experience seems to be completely lost on Lexus at the moment.

    • @hatersbhating
      @hatersbhating ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Actually this was the main reason, my sis and I are not getting the rx350h for my parents!

    • @funkonsight
      @funkonsight ปีที่แล้ว

      The type of customer who wants their cd player still lol

  • @alwayne5932
    @alwayne5932 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Kirk bro…I really don’t give a damn about these EVs they got going on..this is y I like that Toyota & Lexus keep dragging their feet on it I just preferred my hybrid even though I got my V6 22 Lexus RX350 with the luxury package its nice 😁

  • @billyjean2905
    @billyjean2905 ปีที่แล้ว

    Whatever Lexus or Toyota, their EVs sucked everything, though they have best big ball with their hybrid.

  • @Thulebeez
    @Thulebeez ปีที่แล้ว

    The RZ was created for the Chinese market hence the poor effort maybe we should get stats over there to see how it’s selling.

    • @avdp9095
      @avdp9095 ปีที่แล้ว

      The RZ is a worldwide sales disaster......as well as the Bz4x.....onlybin Norway the Bz4x sells well.

  • @bluepalomavelomobile8360
    @bluepalomavelomobile8360 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Tesla rules

  • @avdp9095
    @avdp9095 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    They should have cancelled the RZ...... worst possible reviews in Europe and Usa. This car has ruined Lexus imago....... . Due to very poor range and charging. Personally, this car will always be remembered as a complete failure....and it is a failure, a huge sales failure.
    This car only sold 17 units in 2023 in the Netherlands....17😢😢😢😢😢. The Bz4x, also a slow seller, 85 cars a month...... . The RZ, just 17 cars in a YEAR.

  • @zemo2332
    @zemo2332 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Nobody cares about EVs. Just don’t waste batteries and make more hybrids.😂

    • @Tonga2
      @Tonga2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You are so right about EVs.

    • @Escanor990
      @Escanor990 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      is it because range is not good? Or there are other reasons?

    • @islanddon865
      @islanddon865 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Because of lack of electric charging stations, you absolutely need a minimum of 450-500, which is one day's driving for most consumers. Soon highway hotels/motels will all offer charging stations. Until then, it's Hybrid ONLY in this household.

    • @markcoopers1930
      @markcoopers1930 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ​​​​@@Escanor990It's different for every person: some even the compliance 100mi range vehicles make perfect sense, others it wouldn't make any sense at all. But Americans are pretty bad about choosing the right vehicle for the job and tend to just go biggest and tallest by default.
      In the US it's also been politicized. Which is just silly.

    • @zemo2332
      @zemo2332 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Escanor990 America is a huge country. EVs work better for small European countries where people drive 10 miles a day.

  • @carlsmith5545
    @carlsmith5545 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Upgrade? 266 miles of range is no upgrade infact, its a short and shitty range. Absolutely nothing compared to the 570 miles of range i get with my Jaguar. Because this is a Lexus, you will pay a ton of money for that little tiny short and shitty range. Keep it. If china can come out with EVs that offers ranges of over 600 miles, why can't the United States of America? Why cant you? I'll keep my jaguar XJl and leave well enough alone...

  • @naveenthemachine
    @naveenthemachine ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Still not enough to convince anyone
    The fact that anyone would even want this joke baffles me. Just like how it baffles me that anyone would want an ES250

    • @sammydavis991
      @sammydavis991 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Keep trolling sad little man

    • @mrgurulittle7000
      @mrgurulittle7000 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Still sour from the Consumer Reports reliability ranking reveal?😁

    • @naveenthemachine
      @naveenthemachine ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mrgurulittle7000 consumer reports? The place where you pay to get reliability scores?
      LOL okay😂

    • @mrgurulittle7000
      @mrgurulittle7000 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@naveenthemachineBetter than JD Power where Dodge and Alpha Romeo are the most reliable brands, although I like those brands.

  • @Slimrick310
    @Slimrick310 ปีที่แล้ว

    😂😂😂😂😂😂 Lexus attempt at the EV market is pathetic...also no one cares about EVs nowadays...

  • @hadtobe4502
    @hadtobe4502 ปีที่แล้ว

    Still kind of compliance cars really. Still not convincing to buy Toyota.

  • @ascari16
    @ascari16 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I wonder if the once almighty Toyota will even be around in 10 years time, they are so far behind…

    • @JDMSwervo2001
      @JDMSwervo2001 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      How are they behind? Toyota is a huge corporation and they aren’t stupid

    • @MikeForsythe
      @MikeForsythe ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You can’t be remotely serious

    • @mrgurulittle7000
      @mrgurulittle7000 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Behind is what? Toyota leads the industry in profit margins again as the EV makers including Tesla are scrambling for slim profits. Toyota is putting their eggs in solid state batteries and not the current technology which is hardly convincing the public to transition to EVs. Toyota is ahead. This Lexus 450e is for those who want a EV as a second car and others who need an EV here and now.

  • @faheemabbas3965
    @faheemabbas3965 ปีที่แล้ว

    Their EVs are already obsolete. Wait until solid state happens.