For a lot of tech --- which is usually much cheaper than a work truck --- it's in the best interest of CEOs to encourage impulse buys, which means they have incentive to hide their assumptions.
@@creativecraving Oh I totally get that. But I feel like being exceptionally honest can also be a marketing strategy in this current environment of dishonesty. So I feel (or rather hope) that we're going to see more companies act like this.
@@laurensnieuwland4657 Being honest doesn't prevent them from supplying more information, or educated guess. I'm not asking them to be less honest. I'm asking them to provide more information.
You can maximize the power output of the diesel, but ya also have to account for the electrical losses. DC-DC conversion, electric motor efficiency, Battery internal losses, battery capacity at low temp, battery cooling at high temp, etc. All I'm saying is, there's considerably more to it than just generator efficiency.
The efficiency losses incurred in this sort of hybrid setup are going to add up to more than that of a standard diesel cruising down the highway. Diesel engine straight to the axles vs Diesel engine to alternator to battery to motors to axles. Any other sort of driving this hybrid setup is going to quickly be superior, but long haul highway trucks is not really going to be where these hybrids shine.
@@vica153 especially for united states long haul, where you have 200mile straight flat roads, I agree. However in mountainous regions of the world it might be more efficient. It really depends on the scenario and use case. Sometimes pure electric is best, sometimes hybrid and sometimes pure combustion.
@@vica153 That’s true for a long haul trucker that operate mostly on highway. However, vocational trucks don’t operate like that. Their engines don’t usually stay in the 1500-1900 rpm range very often. So, with the engine running as a generator, it’s runs at a constant RPM (diesels love that) and it’s set to run at a peak efficiency RPM. So in this application it’s very efficient. Especially when you consider a logging truck like Chase is. Where it charges its batteries going down hill with the log load and uses that power to get back up the hill to the log landing while empty.
Hahahah, you’re the only CEO who could make the Congolese children comment and none of your customers or investors bat an eye. I’m really excited to see where this goes and I hope it continues to grow.
Hybrid bucket truck with electric wood chipper will revolutionize tree work!!!! The cost of the diesel motors for wood chippers are insane since they became fully electronic with all the emissions garbage on them. So many solid machines out there needing a new motor. The best part… feed the power from the truck! How awesome would a wood chipper sound with no engine running, just the knives slicing wood!
There is the laski ls160 electric chipper. It's less noisy but still far from quiet. Would be absolutely glorious to power it off the truck though. Could make the chipper much lighter. I've been toying with the idea of a smaller trailer with a tipper, and a small chipper attached to the trailer that runs off the van battery. Stellantis have hinted at putting a 400v three phase outlet in their vans with the facelift coming this year. It would be great for smaller stuff where the customer wants to keep fire wood, there's already three phase chippers that do up to like 10-15 cm. Anything over that could be left for fire wood, and you could fit a lot more in the trailer than if you were just piling branches in. Would be great for my small scale one-man company.
@@matthiashejlskov5008 I saw a custom build that was a tandem axle forestry body setup with an elevator boom. They attached a bc1000 to the back, minus the trailer and motor. The chipper was powered by a hydraulic motor, powered by the truck’s hydraulics. The chipper could be swung to the side to dump, or removed like an implement. They did urban utility clearance work, so they were mostly chipping small cuts. I have to imagine putting batteries in a more central low position in a truck frame could increase stability in boom/cranes.
Dude same. '12 Dodge RAM. The 5.7L HEMI engine is fine. To get the equivalent horse power and torque as the kit, it's completely unrealistic. A supercharger on a 5.7L HEMI is $10k. And even then, the axles, transmission, the whole drivetrain basically is only rated for just over 500 lb-ft of torque. Anything over that and everything is crumbling under the pressure of monster truck force. But, keep the 5.7L HEMI to generate electricity and run it at absolutely peak efficiency (no idling/MDS bullshit with lifters wearing out cam lobes), you breath life into an older vehicle. And you end up with 500 ponies and ~8000 lb-ft of torque for the price of a new base model 1/2 ton truck. I wonder what the towing numbers will be when it's all said and done. I'm betting that it'll be 100% limited by brake rotors size rather than torque.
@@jasongreene303 True, but that feels like a whole conversation that @EdisonMotors needs to do a video on. Converting an older 3/4 ton or 1 ton is not quite the same as how vehicles are made today for the speeds you typically are driving at. You could put a weight distribution hitch on a 1/2 ton Ram 1500 with the diesel-hybrid conversion and technically be capable of towing 15,000 lbs with all that excess torque, but that doesn't mean you should. E.g. A skid steer is roughly 9000-10,000 lbs, add the weight of the trailer and you're over the 10k limit that most modern RAM's are designed for. Any more and you'll need to upgrade to a 2500 or 3500. The kit definitely sounds like it'll fall in the realm as the RAM 3500's 6.4L HEMI or similar offerings. At least on paper, with the amount of horsepower/torque it has it aught to be capable of towing 30,000 lbs. Provided the hitch, suspension, brakes, etc were all up to the job.
It's not at all ideal for 3/4ton trucks doing normal truck usage. If you did do it, the awesome capacity of the new axles would be wasted in a relatively light/weak 3/4ton frame. From what I can see the axles and generator in these are spec'd for 1ton - 1.5ton commercial use trucks doing serious work. Lots of heavy loads around town, stop/start driving. Something like large box trucks doing deliveries around the city would be ideal. Or other types of work trucks that have high electrical loads from welding or hydraulic equipment.
I absolutely love the way you guys are going about this! I firmly believe that Edison motors will put more EVs in the road that are USABLE and PRACTICAL than ever before.
Greetings from Sweden. Really impressed with your work. Two things that struck me is that this is probably the only solution for when they will start trying to electrify armored vehicles. You could make power packs, or whatever its called, instead of the ones used now (wink wink Ferdinand Porsche and his Tiger ideas). You said you weren't into Europe yet but this would also be a solution for the cities that are starting to forbid diesel in cities like in Germany. Just switch to electric until you're out of town. The possibilities are endless. Good luck 👍🏽
only solution for when they will start trying to electrify armoured vehicles To answer your question... You are about 5 to 10 years behind in your thinking that development started about 10 years ago and the first vehicles were built for testing 5 years ago. About 3 years ago... The US Army has a full division testing out a fully battery-powered HQ and all of their vehicles are battery or battery hybrid - they have a special M1 tank they have been testing out. They found out batteries last a lot longer so they use less of them. They found out the same thing as Edison Motors had with the feedback of their solar light towers. The sound or lack of sound makes life in the field a lot better, there is a great reduction in the supply chain for the division, due to the nature of the power costs are greatly reduced and it is a lot better to hide the division on the battlefield.
@@QALibrary so Ferdinand Porsche was on the right track... 😁never heard about it but then again I'm only watching stuff like the chieftain on old to new stuff and tank museums on older stuff. Didn't even think of sound reduction. Do they do complete power packs for quick change in case of malfunction?
@@d-rot yes. I think all newer got it. It's just if it's possible to get it as smooth with electrical drive /hybrid. I'm following MrHewes channel and they are mostly into British stuff and I think it's been standard with power packs since at least the Chieftain.
This is great, but some of things you explained could be a minefield later on if the contracts aren't drafted well. (Every lawyer watching this video will have flashbacks to their contracts class) A penny of prevention is a pound of cure.
@@TH-camcensoredmyusername I was assuming that RV have all that roof top room for solar panels also arriving at campgrounds after hours would be a quiet entry when everyone in the campground is sleeping. Not to mention the fuel economy savings. It seems like there would be a market there.
Life long car guy and machine head, this is the first EV stuff that has me over the top excited. Like I think they're cool but you guys want to implement the tech has me so excited from sm many angles. Go Edison
Fuck u guys are the best legit like transparency? honesty? flexibility? no BS policies? it's a low bar but in the business world? practically unheard of(which is kinda sad) man u guys are an inspiration fr, being a company with morality IS possible i hope you guys are rewarded for everything you're doing
I placed a reservation as soon as it became available. I am excited to covert one of our f450 service trucks. The plan is to install the kit ourselves. It would make a world of difference if a rudimentary set of instructions were including in the kit.
This will be a game changer for F550/Ram 5500 single rear wheel conversion adventure trucks/RVs...or even for those running F450/F550s with the huge slide in campers and putting on serious travel miles.
That’s their market… just need to convince the pencil pushers and I work in government and we both know how that goes! I’m willing to bet a reservation ambulance will happen before a public one.
90% of EMS companies are way too fucking cheap to do this. Can they be convinced of the long term cost savings? It's entirely possible with the amount of idling that is done. Removing that wear and tear on the engine along with fuel savings is good. Now, some retraining will be in order since the thing is whisper quiet, using your ears is a good tool to detect what is going on around you on scene.
For fire departments, this will be HUGE! Extended idling, pumping, hydraulics for trucks or the jaws, power for scene lighting, etc etc etc will save on fuel and emissions, and especially for reducing the time on after treatment systems extending servicing. Even being able to turn the torque down in slippery conditions. It's a long list of advantages for the fire service.
Swapping the axle is the best part of this kit. The great thing is - those 1 ton axles - single and dually are used on many vehicles, RVs, Box, Trucks. Not only Pickups. Just need to figure out how to mount the battery between frame rails.
@@RENO_K I understand that. Just in a long RV or Boxtruck - you would end up with a very long empty space where there driveshaft and exhaust conventionally run. Perfect in the middle - and low. Another nice benefit of those platforms - compared with pickups - the fuel tank usually is suspending behind the axle - while in a Pickup it- is in front or above - so it is in the way.
@@sebastiant5695my worry about sticking it in place of the driveline is that if you run into a clearance issue, that's the first thing to get trashed. And EV batteries make nice bonfires when they get compromised.
@@BlackEpyon how often do you hit your driveshaft against something hard? Hardly ever happens. Batteries are should be tucked away even higher up. You gonna hit the bodywork of an RV or toolboxes hanging from box truck well before the batterie gets an clearance issue.
@@sebastiant5695 The reason I don't hit my driveshaft is because I don't take my truck climbing over rocks, logs, and shit like that. I was talking about pickup trucks, not RVs.
I'm LOVING the idea of a 4WD conversion for my 1973 Ford L600. With a Cummins R2.8 to run the generator / alternator, and two new electric axles. As it sits, it has the original Ford gasoline 361V8 and a 4-speed manual. The drive axle is a two-speed, and the front axle is a straight beam. Current GVW is 19,200 pounds.
I love the consept of installing this kit in some classic cars. This would be a great way to keep some beautifull vehicles on the road. I hope to see some more diversity in the kits as the company grows.
The more I look into Edison motors, the more I want them succeed. Honesty, integrity, transparency, and competency. I feel like this is few and far between for a lot of companies trying to get ahead of the curve. Edison is doing it right!
I would potentially be interested in doing installations like this. I have training and experience with semis and hybrid/EV already. This would simplify so much in packaging drivetrain components and makes so much more sense right now versus straight EV in commercial applications.
Damn I want to build these kits into Fire Engines! My department has two that are due for replacement in the next 5 years at the tune of 1.5million each. New pump, Edison kit and reuse the body! The problem with fire engines is that they sit and then get worked hard, then sit. Many many times the body is fine but the powertrain and pump are worn.
I love your project, business philosophy, and your sense of humour. I know your initial plan is to offer a truck bed mounted battery pack, however I am glad that you are open to the development of a frame rail installation. Understandably this is more complicated because it will require customizations for each make of vehicle, however, I believe it will ultimately be the way to go. All the best to your endeavour.
I completely understand the issue of pricing. My uncle owns a string of restaurants and he said that his per item food costs remained really high until he was able to open his third restaurant. Being able to buy in bulk is so important.
This is the perfect of the grid truck The truck can pull your trailer Then charge all of your off grid batteries when there is no solar Plus I am sure there is a way to use bio diesel in the generator. Meaning I can create my own fuel when needed.
@@BlackEpyon you are right don't know why I wrote clean and not "bio" I know it is still the same. However one is sourced sustainable and the other isn't.
It just struck me that this would be *PERFECT* for RVs; they are usually based on heavier-duty truck components, travel long distances, and the owners are used to spending decent coin on their rigs.
Great idea. I just had to sink over $25,000 into my 2018 Ram 3500 CC 4x4 because the 6.4 hemi blew up and the 66RFE transmission as well. Only 105,000 miles. Could've been cheaper but went ahead and got radiator and coolant components as well.
This conversion kit could be so nice to the RV community. Smaller class B or even bigger one like the huge bus ones. Having a steady RPM diesel generator and able to get better mpg + having electricity all the time all around plus the towing capacity of not using more fuel could be so beneficial. This kit should be bring to more than just pickup!
I’ve got an old 1997 F350 truck that I want to do this with. I am most definitely interested in this. The original motor is shot. So this is definitely right up my alley.
Man as much as this is awesome, I want an Edison built pickup truck. I like how you design things to last and design them to be worked on. Not only is the diesel generator electric great but also your design is what I’m mostly interested in. Stuff like a flas windshield because you don’t have to buy an oem one.
I have an 89 Ford 7.3 idi in mint shape. It was my dad's truck. Towed a camper, barely drove in the rain, let alone winter. He loved that truck. He's gone now, but i treat it the same. It's how i honour him. It's not my truck and it never will be. I would LOVE to have 4x4 and use it as a home backup generator. I really should reserve a kit, I'm just not sure I'll have the money at the time 😔. I know if he were still around he'd jump at this. It would be a no brainer.
Roshel builds their Senator APC from a F-550 base - electrifying one of those boggles the mind. Glad to see the semi axle is also coming as well - I think that hydrovac trucks could also benefit from electrification, but they tend to be larger than a 1-ton truck.
@@johnwenzel2003 From what I heard, that's what they were going for with the Abrams X. It will no longer be the "whispering death," it will be "OHMYGODWHEREDIDYOUCOMEFROM!?"
Great video. For non service trucks, weight seems like the balancing question on generator/ motor choice. Service truck vs classic resto on the available payload after adding batteries, etc
You have yet to mention how easy it would be to put this kit on an F53 RV. With a 30 to 40 ft roofline for solar and plenty of space between the frame rails for a battery, you could make a kick ass rv that could go anywhere and boondock for months at a time.
I really think this is the perfect in between step for our ev changeover. I would love to be a part of the conversion kit industry. I also think the RV consumer base is perfect for this. Having an giant battery bank in an RV with a built in generator would just fit.
I love what y'all are doing, such a great idea! I imagine your hybrid kits would be great for a bus or RV conversion, considering you'd just need 1 axle, they already run big diesel motors, and there's already a need for a generator and "house batteries".
Just a thought from a 20+ year electrician. If you teach your installer to work with an electrical contractor for the home charger you can use the vehicle for power outages. If you can turn off the main breaker for your house and back feed the charging station to the panel and turn on the generator you’ll have power for your house. As long as you turn the main breaker off before it shouldn’t feed back to the grid. If it does back feed to the grid with your mail power from the grid off you have a bad breaker or disconnect. This would be a good option for the USA market especially in a California market known for the power company shutting down the grid in high winds causing blackouts for your home. Also I live in Amargosa Valley NV. and both my FedEx and UPS delivery drivers come out here for delivery’s from over 2 1/2 hours away in Henderson. Henderson is south of Las Vegas and if I have a pain management appointment I drive to Vegas and depending on traffic it’s 2 1/2 to 3 hours each way. I’m sure that if you have someone interested in being an installer in Vegas if they installed one in a delivery truck they would probably have 2 company contracts after they do a demo for them. Also I live in Amargosa Valley the Nevada side of Death Valley. If you made a delivery van and had an optional front axle attached for dirt and muddy roads that the driver could turn on and off on those rainy days out here. I would install one of these on my 2001 Dodge Ram 2500 4X4 5.9 24 valve with an adapter for my motor because the engine has 194,000 miles on it and well maintained. I also was thinking about all the TH-camrs who build off road tow trucks and rigs in Utah and you working with one of them to test it out for that off-road community. The guy’s always upgrade their axles and suspension so they would be another group to target. The guys I watch are mostly rock crawlers in Southern Utah and look for low gear torque for crawling.
I love what you’re doing! Thank you for pushing the world in a better direction in a sensible way!! One idea that I think would be a good idea could be to allow people that build them themselves to bring the complete truck into a certified installer to check the work and certainly that it was installed correctly! Allowing people to do the work themselves and then giving it the seal of approval!
I would love to see a feature to keep the batteries between 60 and 80% to increase that lifetime. I know that batteries are under the most strain when they are above 80%, so it would be great to see an option for extended life of them even if you have to run the generator a little bit more. Another thing, I'm sure you guys already know this, but a lot of people are probably going to back out when they see the price tag in its actual number, I'm sure a lot of your service truck guys are going to go through with it because their trucks are used for business. I know for me I reserved because I want to use it as a personal tow vehicle, but it comes down to if I have the funds available at the time it goes available. I've been starting up a business so a good chunk of my cash is going to that! I know this would probably add more headache for you guys but I would consider adding financing options if you can get a bank that will do it.
In a previous video, they mentioned the benefits of only charging the batteries to 80% and running them down to 20%. Drastically increasing the life of the batteries.
So as of now if its half the price of a new truck. So say 35 to 40 for a full kit. Then you will have the installation fees, if you don't do it yourself. You would need to get an idea of how long it takes to install the kit to get an idea of the labor cost. The labor I payed for a pull put engine job was 1800 in my area. In this case you could save money by pulling all the things you will no longer need. with the exception of the axels. Electrical work can be the most expensive thing to be done in a shop. Putting in a system that wasn't there to start with requires more labor. This is something to think about.
I want to say the "half the price of a new truck" is the installed price. Hopefully. I heard a thing in an earlier vid about the price for the axle and batteries being 15k
I have a 1969 F350 with a dump box on my acreage. I use it for hauling water and garbage. I'm a young man, and I won't be able to afford to convert it for many years. However, now I know that it's worth fixing the body a bit, new tires and rims, etc. Someday, as my business grows, I'll be able to count on this truck for more than 5km trips
I own two 1947 Mercury (CDN built) PUs. These are basically 1942 Ford PUs with a lot of chrome. One is a One-Half Ton and the other is a 1-Ton fitted for dual wheels with dually trac outside wheels lined up with front wheels. The Half-Ton is my daily driver using a 350 Chevy engine and 4spd. I also have a 1954 Ford F100 (Cdn - 239 L-Head V8 with standard Ford F100 PU trans.) I intend to replace trans with a 4 spd. I am interested in converting my trucks to EV. I would like to keep the 350 and I am having the 239 rebuilt to high-end specs. The '47 Merc One-Ton I would like to move over to diesel-electric.
If someone is worried about the emissions still, the beauty of the diesel is having the option of biodiesel, and eventually by the time generator wears out, batteries will likely be better, making full EV a realistic option for more and more people
The kit is too small for my 21 F600 and my concerns on integration and or prefered platforms as ecu's and integrated systems change constantly and with different manufactures probably best to focus on one. Overall I have been screaming this idea for a while and beyond excited to see the outcome you guys are able to do. There is a market, but costs will always be the deciding factor in the end. Wish we had more installers in the Calgary area
I'm going to be keeping a close eye on the conversion kit program and how it goes. I'd very much like to set up as an installer here in Australia when you start rolling out in our region.
I'd probably go with rear-wheel only. 4x4 has limited uses, most of which you'd never use in trades anyways. Having the generator is far more useful, especially if there's an option to add one later.
I beg to differ. Most trades I see a 4x4 is a must. The absolute worse scenario possible is not being able to do a job for the lack of a 4x4 and could ruin your business if your competitor has to be called in. A front axle would pay itself 10x over. I don’t see how that would compromise having the generator for plugging in accessories.
@@FFLFFS Depends on what you're doing, I guess. I'm a landscaper, but most of my contracts are strata maintenance, so I rarely go off road with my truck. But if I need to add the front axle later, that's always an option, and would help split the cost. I've been hesitant to go to cordless tools because it's impractical when you have to use them all day and would be constantly changing out batteries. I like the idea of having the truck's battery bank (and generator), as it would allow me to keep an array of cordless battery packs constantly on charge. For my regular route, I might not even need to use the generator, just plug it in to charge at night. One of my sites is even up a pretty big hill, so with regenerative braking, I probably wouldn't even need to charge much that day.
Construction companies should be looking really hard at this company…. A work truck that would have a crew cab .. 17 tone crane behind the cab with a dumping flat deck with folding sides . Under deck tool storage ,built in welder generator ,trailer hitch to haul an equipment trailer…. Then when your traveling down a hill your charging your batteries….. 4. Trucks in one. .. custom built for YOUR. NEEDS …. And you’ll be able to fix it your self !!!! It’s a. Wonderful thing to think about !!!!
I just found your Deboss Garage video Thursday, and started watching through the videos. I sent Ted Verras an email Friday with some questions, and then I talked this over with some other partners this morning and we're all in on this now. BUT, just viewing this video tonight and I realized I missed the installer / dealer cutoff by ONE day. I have ordered a kit for demonstration purposes (#06307), and I have started looking for good shop space expressly for this purpose. Hopefully we can get into the dealer / installer program at some point in the near future and get the ball rolling. Bryan
Dunno about elsewhere in the world but in the uk, any tractor unit with a large generator can be registered as dual use/mobile plant avoiding ministry certification, cheap insurance and no road tax
An F550 work truck sized truck that is actually your mobile generator that can move itself. Plug in your wood chipper, your welder, your pole drill, your water or oil derrick, run a tow winch...
I love the approach that you're taking towards installers, almost as much as I love you're aproach to the technology and the right to repair. I would like to know if you anticipate re-opening installer signups in the future? I love the idea, but am not in a situation right now where it would make sense to sign up. I'm sure I'm not alone in that situation.
I would love to do both a heavy duty pickup and a Jeep or Bronco with this kit. It is going to be really interesting to see what else can be done with this kit. I have been considering a super c motorhome and this seems like a practical technology to have in a motorhome.
We have the safest, cleanest mines in the world! We reclaim the mines and respect the environment. MSHA in America is one of the most successful gov orgs, IMO.
I'm on board, but I think the cost's are still high... It all depends on longevity and fuel mileage. If you can get 300k out of this setup and increase highway mileage by a MINIMUM of 50% I think it will work. I think it's a great realistic alternative to the unrealistic all EV the government is pushing. Also being able to DIY this is key for me.
It is my hope that this all flies, grows, and develops into lighter kits. I have a 2011 Volt, so I am presold on the idea that my Express camper should have regenerative braking as soon as i wear out the 5.3L.
All the answers make so much sense. I love it. You try to make it fair and fun. And everybody has to start small and then after some time they can go big.
Curious if these kits will be able to output shore power. With all the generator/battery hardware in these trucks, it'd be really cool if they could also be used as mega portable backup/emergency/jobsite generators (same with the semi scale rigs)
Honesty. A missing quality for most businesses.
Well said. I would do business with this guy.
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If you think this is honesty, then you are gullible. Why don't the give the possible price range instead of playing games?
@@justinkase1360he did lmao
@@travisscottgaming6885 Go ahead and link me to that part of the video, buddy.
It's very refreshing too see you being so honest about the process. Not many tech CEOs around like that nowadays...
For a lot of tech --- which is usually much cheaper than a work truck --- it's in the best interest of CEOs to encourage impulse buys, which means they have incentive to hide their assumptions.
@@creativecraving Oh I totally get that. But I feel like being exceptionally honest can also be a marketing strategy in this current environment of dishonesty. So I feel (or rather hope) that we're going to see more companies act like this.
@@laurensnieuwland4657 Being honest doesn't prevent them from supplying more information, or educated guess. I'm not asking them to be less honest. I'm asking them to provide more information.
@@laurensnieuwland4657 we could only hope for this, and we can also hope this will trickle into politics as well.
Figures a Canadian truck driver would make a better CEO than a Silicon Valley tech billionaire 😂
Additionally the diesel runs at an RPM tuned to peak efficiency. So that alone can significantly increase mileage. Diesels love running at one RPM.
You can maximize the power output of the diesel, but ya also have to account for the electrical losses. DC-DC conversion, electric motor efficiency, Battery internal losses, battery capacity at low temp, battery cooling at high temp, etc. All I'm saying is, there's considerably more to it than just generator efficiency.
Regen braking is a huge thing, which really increas s the efficiency.
The efficiency losses incurred in this sort of hybrid setup are going to add up to more than that of a standard diesel cruising down the highway. Diesel engine straight to the axles vs Diesel engine to alternator to battery to motors to axles. Any other sort of driving this hybrid setup is going to quickly be superior, but long haul highway trucks is not really going to be where these hybrids shine.
@@vica153 especially for united states long haul, where you have 200mile straight flat roads, I agree. However in mountainous regions of the world it might be more efficient. It really depends on the scenario and use case. Sometimes pure electric is best, sometimes hybrid and sometimes pure combustion.
@@vica153 That’s true for a long haul trucker that operate mostly on highway. However, vocational trucks don’t operate like that. Their engines don’t usually stay in the 1500-1900 rpm range very often. So, with the engine running as a generator, it’s runs at a constant RPM (diesels love that) and it’s set to run at a peak efficiency RPM. So in this application it’s very efficient. Especially when you consider a logging truck like Chase is. Where it charges its batteries going down hill with the log load and uses that power to get back up the hill to the log landing while empty.
Hahahah, you’re the only CEO who could make the Congolese children comment and none of your customers or investors bat an eye.
I’m really excited to see where this goes and I hope it continues to grow.
I think it’s because I’m one of the few CEO’s where people know 100% I’m joking.
I wouldn’t put it past Jeff Bezos not to actually do it
Thought I was watching LetterKenny for a second there 😂
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Good on you for your ethical choices!
Hybrid bucket truck with electric wood chipper will revolutionize tree work!!!!
The cost of the diesel motors for wood chippers are insane since they became fully electronic with all the emissions garbage on them. So many solid machines out there needing a new motor. The best part… feed the power from the truck! How awesome would a wood chipper sound with no engine running, just the knives slicing wood!
Yep. I'm right there with you, I have a tree service and that would be such a powerful chipper.
There is the laski ls160 electric chipper. It's less noisy but still far from quiet.
Would be absolutely glorious to power it off the truck though. Could make the chipper much lighter.
I've been toying with the idea of a smaller trailer with a tipper, and a small chipper attached to the trailer that runs off the van battery. Stellantis have hinted at putting a 400v three phase outlet in their vans with the facelift coming this year.
It would be great for smaller stuff where the customer wants to keep fire wood, there's already three phase chippers that do up to like 10-15 cm. Anything over that could be left for fire wood, and you could fit a lot more in the trailer than if you were just piling branches in.
Would be great for my small scale one-man company.
Even running the truck engine to top off the battery while the chipper is running would be far quieter.
@@matthiashejlskov5008 I saw a custom build that was a tandem axle forestry body setup with an elevator boom. They attached a bc1000 to the back, minus the trailer and motor. The chipper was powered by a hydraulic motor, powered by the truck’s hydraulics. The chipper could be swung to the side to dump, or removed like an implement. They did urban utility clearance work, so they were mostly chipping small cuts.
I have to imagine putting batteries in a more central low position in a truck frame could increase stability in boom/cranes.
@@edwardrook8146 I am thinking that the same drive motor would be really overpowered and expensive for a chipper, but it sure would kick some ass.
I’m reserved. Have an ‘04 Dodge 4x4 with a perfect body and worn out drivetrain. Perfect candidate. Looking forward to finding out cost/delivery.
Dude same. '12 Dodge RAM. The 5.7L HEMI engine is fine. To get the equivalent horse power and torque as the kit, it's completely unrealistic. A supercharger on a 5.7L HEMI is $10k. And even then, the axles, transmission, the whole drivetrain basically is only rated for just over 500 lb-ft of torque.
Anything over that and everything is crumbling under the pressure of monster truck force.
But, keep the 5.7L HEMI to generate electricity and run it at absolutely peak efficiency (no idling/MDS bullshit with lifters wearing out cam lobes), you breath life into an older vehicle. And you end up with 500 ponies and ~8000 lb-ft of torque for the price of a new base model 1/2 ton truck.
I wonder what the towing numbers will be when it's all said and done. I'm betting that it'll be 100% limited by brake rotors size rather than torque.
@@sirukin7849 It will also be limited by the capabilities of the hitch, frame, suspension, and attachments to each other.
@@jasongreene303 True, but that feels like a whole conversation that @EdisonMotors needs to do a video on. Converting an older 3/4 ton or 1 ton is not quite the same as how vehicles are made today for the speeds you typically are driving at.
You could put a weight distribution hitch on a 1/2 ton Ram 1500 with the diesel-hybrid conversion and technically be capable of towing 15,000 lbs with all that excess torque, but that doesn't mean you should.
E.g. A skid steer is roughly 9000-10,000 lbs, add the weight of the trailer and you're over the 10k limit that most modern RAM's are designed for. Any more and you'll need to upgrade to a 2500 or 3500.
The kit definitely sounds like it'll fall in the realm as the RAM 3500's 6.4L HEMI or similar offerings. At least on paper, with the amount of horsepower/torque it has it aught to be capable of towing 30,000 lbs. Provided the hitch, suspension, brakes, etc were all up to the job.
I'm thinking a f450 with a blown 6.4 from down south is what I'll do. @@sirukin7849
It's not at all ideal for 3/4ton trucks doing normal truck usage. If you did do it, the awesome capacity of the new axles would be wasted in a relatively light/weak 3/4ton frame.
From what I can see the axles and generator in these are spec'd for 1ton - 1.5ton commercial use trucks doing serious work. Lots of heavy loads around town, stop/start driving. Something like large box trucks doing deliveries around the city would be ideal. Or other types of work trucks that have high electrical loads from welding or hydraulic equipment.
Plaid flannel over plaid flannel, he got all dressed up just for us!
Calling all spiritual support and protection for this man, his company and his Allies!
Seeing things like this make me feel great about the fact that I study electric engineering
It makes me wish I had. 😢
I absolutely love the way you guys are going about this! I firmly believe that Edison motors will put more EVs in the road that are USABLE and PRACTICAL than ever before.
Greetings from Sweden. Really impressed with your work. Two things that struck me is that this is probably the only solution for when they will start trying to electrify armored vehicles. You could make power packs, or whatever its called, instead of the ones used now (wink wink Ferdinand Porsche and his Tiger ideas). You said you weren't into Europe yet but this would also be a solution for the cities that are starting to forbid diesel in cities like in Germany. Just switch to electric until you're out of town. The possibilities are endless. Good luck 👍🏽
Yep, best of both and you get the kickbacks of ev
only solution for when they will start trying to electrify armoured vehicles
To answer your question...
You are about 5 to 10 years behind in your thinking that development started about 10 years ago and the first vehicles were built for testing 5 years ago.
About 3 years ago...
The US Army has a full division testing out a fully battery-powered HQ and all of their vehicles are battery or battery hybrid - they have a special M1 tank they have been testing out.
They found out batteries last a lot longer so they use less of them.
They found out the same thing as Edison Motors had with the feedback of their solar light towers.
The sound or lack of sound makes life in the field a lot better, there is a great reduction in the supply chain for the division, due to the nature of the power costs are greatly reduced and it is a lot better to hide the division on the battlefield.
@@QALibrary so Ferdinand Porsche was on the right track... 😁never heard about it but then again I'm only watching stuff like the chieftain on old to new stuff and tank museums on older stuff. Didn't even think of sound reduction. Do they do complete power packs for quick change in case of malfunction?
@@Robert306gtithey do for the Abrams tanks with the turbines so I'm sure they're doing the same thing for diesel electric packs.
@@d-rot yes. I think all newer got it. It's just if it's possible to get it as smooth with electrical drive /hybrid. I'm following MrHewes channel and they are mostly into British stuff and I think it's been standard with power packs since at least the Chieftain.
No intro, straight to business. I love it. Honesty from other companies in this way would make our world such a better place
This is great, but some of things you explained could be a minefield later on if the contracts aren't drafted well. (Every lawyer watching this video will have flashbacks to their contracts class)
A penny of prevention is a pound of cure.
Ack *Ounce of prevention
@@justin423i think with inflation it's almost two pounds
The RV market would be huge, I'm sure.
They depreciate too fast for that. My buddy bought a class a during COVID it’s a 200k dollar waste of money already 😂
I can't comprehend people who spend $200k on a house on wheels just so they can camp without actually camping.
@@BlackEpyon this guy did it so his wife could be comfortable. And yet she still doesn’t come out to his property in the desert
@@TH-camcensoredmyusername I was assuming that RV have all that roof top room for solar panels also arriving at campgrounds after hours would be a quiet entry when everyone in the campground is sleeping. Not to mention the fuel economy savings. It seems like there would be a market there.
@@merlepatterson This is an EXCELLENT application. Boondocking capability goes way up. RVs with engines/drivetrains will greatly benefit from this.
Life long car guy and machine head, this is the first EV stuff that has me over the top excited. Like I think they're cool but you guys want to implement the tech has me so excited from sm many angles. Go Edison
Fuck u guys are the best
legit
like transparency? honesty? flexibility? no BS policies?
it's a low bar but in the business world? practically unheard of(which is kinda sad)
man u guys are an inspiration fr, being a company with morality IS possible
i hope you guys are rewarded for everything you're doing
As it was elon mursk at the beginning.... I will believe it when I see it. It looks good though.
@@JP-xd6fmElon Musk was a good bullshitter from the beginning. SpaceX and Tesla are just the more successful brands with his name on them.
bro is fighting against big oil and big EV at the same time. he needs to be protected at all costs! lol
Legitimately though, after that Boeing whistleblower died it’s revealed that corporate sanctions assassinations are probably still a thing
I need to get me one of those 20,000 ft trailers, the Edison truck could pull it!
Thank for the update!
I think he meant pounds, but it was good for a chuckle.
Or the Ford Diesel Laramie.
Love the "out and back" comparison... Straight EV gets you out there hybrid brings one home again.
I placed a reservation as soon as it became available. I am excited to covert one of our f450 service trucks. The plan is to install the kit ourselves. It would make a world of difference if a rudimentary set of instructions were including in the kit.
This will be a game changer for F550/Ram 5500 single rear wheel conversion adventure trucks/RVs...or even for those running F450/F550s with the huge slide in campers and putting on serious travel miles.
I really think this is a great idea for my ambulances. I am trying to get my company to look into this more.
Same! This will revolutionize the fire and EMS service
That’s their market… just need to convince the pencil pushers and I work in government and we both know how that goes! I’m willing to bet a reservation ambulance will happen before a public one.
90% of EMS companies are way too fucking cheap to do this.
Can they be convinced of the long term cost savings? It's entirely possible with the amount of idling that is done. Removing that wear and tear on the engine along with fuel savings is good.
Now, some retraining will be in order since the thing is whisper quiet, using your ears is a good tool to detect what is going on around you on scene.
For fire departments, this will be HUGE! Extended idling, pumping, hydraulics for trucks or the jaws, power for scene lighting, etc etc etc will save on fuel and emissions, and especially for reducing the time on after treatment systems extending servicing. Even being able to turn the torque down in slippery conditions.
It's a long list of advantages for the fire service.
@@jasongreene303 I was able to convince them to put in a reservation. Telling them it should be half the price of a new rig helped.
Axel swap is the way to go. That way you don't have to worry about the gear ratio of the stock diff
Or the electric motor stripping the diff gears.
If I ever hit the lottery I'm gonna install one of these kits in my 1996 E350 Van. It's got 382,000 miles on it.
Swapping the axle is the best part of this kit. The great thing is - those 1 ton axles - single and dually are used on many vehicles, RVs, Box, Trucks. Not only Pickups. Just need to figure out how to mount the battery between frame rails.
it doesnt even need to be in the frame rails it can be anywhere, just make sure in a crash that battery pack doesnt get punctured thats all
@@RENO_K I understand that. Just in a long RV or Boxtruck - you would end up with a very long empty space where there driveshaft and exhaust conventionally run. Perfect in the middle - and low. Another nice benefit of those platforms - compared with pickups - the fuel tank usually is suspending behind the axle - while in a Pickup it- is in front or above - so it is in the way.
@@sebastiant5695my worry about sticking it in place of the driveline is that if you run into a clearance issue, that's the first thing to get trashed. And EV batteries make nice bonfires when they get compromised.
@@BlackEpyon how often do you hit your driveshaft against something hard? Hardly ever happens. Batteries are should be tucked away even higher up. You gonna hit the bodywork of an RV or toolboxes hanging from box truck well before the batterie gets an clearance issue.
@@sebastiant5695 The reason I don't hit my driveshaft is because I don't take my truck climbing over rocks, logs, and shit like that. I was talking about pickup trucks, not RVs.
I'm glad you're giving all those congolese children ample job opertunity. Proud fan of your company here 🙏
Thank you for clearing that up about Australia and other countries really appreciate it
lol the battery 🔋 sourcing haha. It does suck that there are countries with poor mining standards :(
We need more domestic mining in the States, as well as manufacturing of industrial equipment and medical products.
I'm LOVING the idea of a 4WD conversion for my 1973 Ford L600.
With a Cummins R2.8 to run the generator / alternator, and two new electric axles.
As it sits, it has the original Ford gasoline 361V8 and a 4-speed manual.
The drive axle is a two-speed, and the front axle is a straight beam.
Current GVW is 19,200 pounds.
I love the consept of installing this kit in some classic cars. This would be a great way to keep some beautifull vehicles on the road. I hope to see some more diversity in the kits as the company grows.
The more I look into Edison motors, the more I want them succeed. Honesty, integrity, transparency, and competency. I feel like this is few and far between for a lot of companies trying to get ahead of the curve. Edison is doing it right!
I would potentially be interested in doing installations like this. I have training and experience with semis and hybrid/EV already. This would simplify so much in packaging drivetrain components and makes so much more sense right now versus straight EV in commercial applications.
They should retro fit a fire truck, Mesa fire department in AZ just unveiled an all electric fire truck and I just see so many issues with that
Damn I want to build these kits into Fire Engines! My department has two that are due for replacement in the next 5 years at the tune of 1.5million each. New pump, Edison kit and reuse the body! The problem with fire engines is that they sit and then get worked hard, then sit. Many many times the body is fine but the powertrain and pump are worn.
You and I both know how government moves…slow! I’m willing to bet to see a native reservation ems equipment gets done before public money!
Love how you keep it simple and keep it real Chace. Wish you all the best and am excited to keep an eye on the journey!
Exciting. An Edison axle would be a good way to make a 4x2 into 4x4.
Videographer tip:
I use the same DJI mic. Use the magnet on the outside of your T-shirt and hide the mic (use the wind muff) under your shirt.
I love your project, business philosophy, and your sense of humour. I know your initial plan is to offer a truck bed mounted battery pack, however I am glad that you are open to the development of a frame rail installation. Understandably this is more complicated because it will require customizations for each make of vehicle, however, I believe it will ultimately be the way to go. All the best to your endeavour.
A couple cross members and "fuel tank straps" and its done
I completely understand the issue of pricing. My uncle owns a string of restaurants and he said that his per item food costs remained really high until he was able to open his third restaurant. Being able to buy in bulk is so important.
You gotta put the 1. through 29. after the timestamps in the description for them to appear on the timeline.
This is the perfect of the grid truck
The truck can pull your trailer
Then charge all of your off grid batteries when there is no solar
Plus I am sure there is a way to use bio diesel in the generator.
Meaning I can create my own fuel when needed.
"Clean" diesel isn't a thing. You're still burning hydrocarbons.
@@BlackEpyon you are right don't know why I wrote clean and not "bio" I know it is still the same. However one is sourced sustainable and the other isn't.
What a breath of fresh air! This is going to be huge!
Im 180th on the list. Honestly, all I want is a 2wd kit for my old 88 F250. Ill upgrade to a 4wd later, just depends really on the final pricing.
Can't wait to haul a load of calves to town on with my Edison swapped ranch rig. LETS GO!!!
"I heard the cows before I even heard you! What sort of black magic you got running under that hood there?"
@@BlackEpyon maple syrup and plaid flannel black magjc
It just struck me that this would be *PERFECT* for RVs; they are usually based on heavier-duty truck components, travel long distances, and the owners are used to spending decent coin on their rigs.
Great idea. I just had to sink over $25,000 into my 2018 Ram 3500 CC 4x4 because the 6.4 hemi blew up and the 66RFE transmission as well. Only 105,000 miles. Could've been cheaper but went ahead and got radiator and coolant components as well.
This conversion kit could be so nice to the RV community. Smaller class B or even bigger one like the huge bus ones. Having a steady RPM diesel generator and able to get better mpg + having electricity all the time all around plus the towing capacity of not using more fuel could be so beneficial.
This kit should be bring to more than just pickup!
The big RVs would probably fall under the semi conversions. But excellent idea.
This makes so much sense for pick up trucks. Would be great if this became available on vans and campers too.
I’ve got an old 1997 F350 truck that I want to do this with. I am most definitely interested in this. The original motor is shot. So this is definitely right up my alley.
You got way more specific on price by being more specific on what truck to compare it to and that is really what I needed
Yeah, an F-150 costs a lot less than an F-550.
Just imagine how awesome an Edison truck would sound with a 4-53 two stroke Detroit power plant! 😮😊 Skidder music!
Man as much as this is awesome, I want an Edison built pickup truck. I like how you design things to last and design them to be worked on. Not only is the diesel generator electric great but also your design is what I’m mostly interested in. Stuff like a flas windshield because you don’t have to buy an oem one.
In a hybrid, the batteries, when managed properly, should last a looooong time
It’s so very refreshing to see an honest person leading a company. That Congolese children joke was pure gold
Absolutely love how straight forward your are NO BULLSHIT !! I have my reservation in.
I have an 89 Ford 7.3 idi in mint shape. It was my dad's truck. Towed a camper, barely drove in the rain, let alone winter. He loved that truck. He's gone now, but i treat it the same. It's how i honour him. It's not my truck and it never will be.
I would LOVE to have 4x4 and use it as a home backup generator. I really should reserve a kit, I'm just not sure I'll have the money at the time 😔. I know if he were still around he'd jump at this. It would be a no brainer.
It's done. I'm reserved. It's too good not to do. You guys are awesome.
Roshel builds their Senator APC from a F-550 base - electrifying one of those boggles the mind. Glad to see the semi axle is also coming as well - I think that hydrovac trucks could also benefit from electrification, but they tend to be larger than a 1-ton truck.
They work on a semi-truck base, so that's not a problem
@@BlackEpyon city just decided to do work on my block, yup its on a western star 😅
Am APC with better fuel efficiency and possibly a 'whisper mode', nah, they wouldn't be interested in that at all . . .
@@johnwenzel2003 From what I heard, that's what they were going for with the Abrams X. It will no longer be the "whispering death," it will be "OHMYGODWHEREDIDYOUCOMEFROM!?"
@@BlackEpyon Somewhere, the spirit of Patton is smiling.
Great video. For non service trucks, weight seems like the balancing question on generator/ motor choice. Service truck vs classic resto on the available payload after adding batteries, etc
You have yet to mention how easy it would be to put this kit on an F53 RV. With a 30 to 40 ft roofline for solar and plenty of space between the frame rails for a battery, you could make a kick ass rv that could go anywhere and boondock for months at a time.
I really think this is the perfect in between step for our ev changeover. I would love to be a part of the conversion kit industry. I also think the RV consumer base is perfect for this. Having an giant battery bank in an RV with a built in generator would just fit.
I will be purchasing this when it comes out.
I Appreciate your Honest and Good Businessing. Honesty something that has been missing in Business for far too long. Keep up your Awesome Work
I love what y'all are doing, such a great idea!
I imagine your hybrid kits would be great for a bus or RV conversion, considering you'd just need 1 axle, they already run big diesel motors, and there's already a need for a generator and "house batteries".
Just a thought from a 20+ year electrician. If you teach your installer to work with an electrical contractor for the home charger you can use the vehicle for power outages. If you can turn off the main breaker for your house and back feed the charging station to the panel and turn on the generator you’ll have power for your house. As long as you turn the main breaker off before it shouldn’t feed back to the grid. If it does back feed to the grid with your mail power from the grid off you have a bad breaker or disconnect. This would be a good option for the USA market especially in a California market known for the power company shutting down the grid in high winds causing blackouts for your home. Also I live in Amargosa Valley NV. and both my FedEx and UPS delivery drivers come out here for delivery’s from over 2 1/2 hours away in Henderson. Henderson is south of Las Vegas and if I have a pain management appointment I drive to Vegas and depending on traffic it’s 2 1/2 to 3 hours each way. I’m sure that if you have someone interested in being an installer in Vegas if they installed one in a delivery truck they would probably have 2 company contracts after they do a demo for them. Also I live in Amargosa Valley the Nevada side of Death Valley. If you made a delivery van and had an optional front axle attached for dirt and muddy roads that the driver could turn on and off on those rainy days out here. I would install one of these on my 2001 Dodge Ram 2500 4X4 5.9 24 valve with an adapter for my motor because the engine has 194,000 miles on it and well maintained. I also was thinking about all the TH-camrs who build off road tow trucks and rigs in Utah and you working with one of them to test it out for that off-road community. The guy’s always upgrade their axles and suspension so they would be another group to target. The guys I watch are mostly rock crawlers in Southern Utah and look for low gear torque for crawling.
9:45 😂 epic answer I am so happy you answered it like this. Bravo!
This should be great for an RV!
I love what you’re doing! Thank you for pushing the world in a better direction in a sensible way!!
One idea that I think would be a good idea could be to allow people that build them themselves to bring the complete truck into a certified installer to check the work and certainly that it was installed correctly! Allowing people to do the work themselves and then giving it the seal of approval!
I would love to see a feature to keep the batteries between 60 and 80% to increase that lifetime. I know that batteries are under the most strain when they are above 80%, so it would be great to see an option for extended life of them even if you have to run the generator a little bit more.
Another thing, I'm sure you guys already know this, but a lot of people are probably going to back out when they see the price tag in its actual number, I'm sure a lot of your service truck guys are going to go through with it because their trucks are used for business. I know for me I reserved because I want to use it as a personal tow vehicle, but it comes down to if I have the funds available at the time it goes available. I've been starting up a business so a good chunk of my cash is going to that!
I know this would probably add more headache for you guys but I would consider adding financing options if you can get a bank that will do it.
In a previous video, they mentioned the benefits of only charging the batteries to 80% and running them down to 20%. Drastically increasing the life of the batteries.
It will all be programmable to get the results your after. Like teslas now you can program them to not charge past (x) .
So as of now if its half the price of a new truck. So say 35 to 40 for a full kit. Then you will have the installation fees, if you don't do it yourself. You would need to get an idea of how long it takes to install the kit to get an idea of the labor cost. The labor I payed for a pull put engine job was 1800 in my area. In this case you could save money by pulling all the things you will no longer need. with the exception of the axels. Electrical work can be the most expensive thing to be done in a shop. Putting in a system that wasn't there to start with requires more labor. This is something to think about.
I want to say the "half the price of a new truck" is the installed price. Hopefully. I heard a thing in an earlier vid about the price for the axle and batteries being 15k
Plus they are replacing the front and rear axels to retain the 4x4 if equipped originally and you want 4x4 going forward.
Remind folks how that Tesla motor twisted driveshafts on the prototype besides losing the regenerative capability of electric axles.
I have a 1969 F350 with a dump box on my acreage. I use it for hauling water and garbage.
I'm a young man, and I won't be able to afford to convert it for many years.
However, now I know that it's worth fixing the body a bit, new tires and rims, etc. Someday, as my business grows, I'll be able to count on this truck for more than 5km trips
You don't have to use diesel only. You can buy generators that run on lot's of fuels. If you have a propane delivery truck there you go.
I own two 1947 Mercury (CDN built) PUs. These are basically 1942 Ford PUs with a lot of chrome. One is a One-Half Ton and the other is a 1-Ton fitted for dual wheels with dually trac outside wheels lined up with front wheels. The Half-Ton is my daily driver using a 350 Chevy engine and 4spd. I also have a 1954 Ford F100 (Cdn - 239 L-Head V8 with standard Ford F100 PU trans.) I intend to replace trans with a 4 spd. I am interested in converting my trucks to EV. I would like to keep the 350 and I am having the 239 rebuilt to high-end specs. The '47 Merc One-Ton I would like to move over to diesel-electric.
Chase, I absolutely love it, perfect customizability, exactly what we all wanted.
I trust a man in flannel far more than one in a suit.
If someone is worried about the emissions still, the beauty of the diesel is having the option of biodiesel, and eventually by the time generator wears out, batteries will likely be better, making full EV a realistic option for more and more people
The kit is too small for my 21 F600 and my concerns on integration and or prefered platforms as ecu's and integrated systems change constantly and with different manufactures probably best to focus on one. Overall I have been screaming this idea for a while and beyond excited to see the outcome you guys are able to do. There is a market, but costs will always be the deciding factor in the end. Wish we had more installers in the Calgary area
I'm going to be keeping a close eye on the conversion kit program and how it goes. I'd very much like to set up as an installer here in Australia when you start rolling out in our region.
A hybrid LR 4x4 truck would make a great touring rig
@@saff226 sure would!
I'd probably go with rear-wheel only. 4x4 has limited uses, most of which you'd never use in trades anyways. Having the generator is far more useful, especially if there's an option to add one later.
I beg to differ. Most trades I see a 4x4 is a must. The absolute worse scenario possible is not being able to do a job for the lack of a 4x4 and could ruin your business if your competitor has to be called in. A front axle would pay itself 10x over.
I don’t see how that would compromise having the generator for plugging in accessories.
@@FFLFFS Depends on what you're doing, I guess. I'm a landscaper, but most of my contracts are strata maintenance, so I rarely go off road with my truck. But if I need to add the front axle later, that's always an option, and would help split the cost.
I've been hesitant to go to cordless tools because it's impractical when you have to use them all day and would be constantly changing out batteries. I like the idea of having the truck's battery bank (and generator), as it would allow me to keep an array of cordless battery packs constantly on charge. For my regular route, I might not even need to use the generator, just plug it in to charge at night. One of my sites is even up a pretty big hill, so with regenerative braking, I probably wouldn't even need to charge much that day.
This would be an amazing product for Class A RVs or Super-Cs
Construction companies should be looking really hard at this company…. A work truck that would have a crew cab .. 17 tone crane behind the cab with a dumping flat deck with folding sides . Under deck tool storage ,built in welder generator ,trailer hitch to haul an equipment trailer…. Then when your traveling down a hill your charging your batteries….. 4. Trucks in one. .. custom built for YOUR. NEEDS …. And you’ll be able to fix it your self !!!! It’s a. Wonderful thing to think about !!!!
Im not a trucker but particularly the logging truck concept for B.C. here makes a lot of sense.
Damm double plaid
I just found your Deboss Garage video Thursday, and started watching through the videos. I sent Ted Verras an email Friday with some questions, and then I talked this over with some other partners this morning and we're all in on this now. BUT, just viewing this video tonight and I realized I missed the installer / dealer cutoff by ONE day. I have ordered a kit for demonstration purposes (#06307), and I have started looking for good shop space expressly for this purpose. Hopefully we can get into the dealer / installer program at some point in the near future and get the ball rolling.
Bryan
Your better off email Theron
DTF@Edisonmotors.ca
Dunno about elsewhere in the world but in the uk, any tractor unit with a large generator can be registered as dual use/mobile plant avoiding ministry certification, cheap insurance and no road tax
An F550 work truck sized truck that is actually your mobile generator that can move itself. Plug in your wood chipper, your welder, your pole drill, your water or oil derrick, run a tow winch...
I love my big block engine, but the fuel mileage is just not okay. I’m looking forward to this.
I love the approach that you're taking towards installers, almost as much as I love you're aproach to the technology and the right to repair. I would like to know if you anticipate re-opening installer signups in the future? I love the idea, but am not in a situation right now where it would make sense to sign up. I'm sure I'm not alone in that situation.
Im excited to try a square body with a utility bed and power station in the bed. I think a hybrid system would make a classic truck so cool to daily
Was watching Dakar this morning thinking it would be rad to have an Edison Dakar truck in a few years
I would love to do both a heavy duty pickup and a Jeep or Bronco with this kit. It is going to be really interesting to see what else can be done with this kit. I have been considering a super c motorhome and this seems like a practical technology to have in a motorhome.
We have the safest, cleanest mines in the world! We reclaim the mines and respect the environment. MSHA in America is one of the most successful gov orgs, IMO.
Brush truck in fire service would be great market as well.
I'm on board, but I think the cost's are still high... It all depends on longevity and fuel mileage. If you can get 300k out of this setup and increase highway mileage by a MINIMUM of 50% I think it will work. I think it's a great realistic alternative to the unrealistic all EV the government is pushing. Also being able to DIY this is key for me.
Man would it be fun to be an installer for these kits. Getting to help the world and working as much as I possibly can would be lovely
Has anyone thought about the food truck capabilities of this, as a chef im quite interested
Yup and ambulances and fire trucks…anything that’s a dually basically
Somthing ike : electric drive, electric kitchen and propane fule for the generator?
(Maybe a bit of solar on the roof)
It is my hope that this all flies, grows, and develops into lighter kits. I have a 2011 Volt, so I am presold on the idea that my Express camper should have regenerative braking as soon as i wear out the 5.3L.
Nearly did a spit take on sourcing. Great delivery.
All the answers make so much sense. I love it. You try to make it fair and fun. And everybody has to start small and then after some time they can go big.
Curious if these kits will be able to output shore power. With all the generator/battery hardware in these trucks, it'd be really cool if they could also be used as mega portable backup/emergency/jobsite generators (same with the semi scale rigs)
Yep
Yes